Shutdown Fullcast - Shutdown Fullcast 4.40: The Hunt For Mack Browntober

Episode Date: October 3, 2016

Florida State now has the same conference record as Boston College. This is just a fact we're offering you, and not in any way a commentary on the quality of the 2016 Seminoles. Other facts we discuss this week include: - Tennessee's smart decision to spend all its bad luck in 2015 so this year can be nothing but amazing comebacks - Washington making Stanford look Walt Harrisian - Identifying the secret, true El Assico - We're seriously asking if Oregon is going to make a bowl game, what the hell has happened to you Oregon - Mike Gundy's not going to T. Boone's graduation party and we heard they're not even friends on Facebook anymore - Spencer kind of sort of propositions Mack Brown for group sex - I know, again - Cal's defense won a game, Colorado is ranked, USC embarrassed someone else, and none of us know a single thing about UCLA-Arizona Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

all right welcome to the shutdown forecast oh my joining us live from brooklyn new york ryan nanny we were just discussing that we're going to keep this real tight and in your response to that was that's literally never happened on this show yeah never not once i mean i mean sometimes the 40 for 40 we will get down but that's that's an intentional choice to mock someone and it's definitely not happening after this week of college football so just shut up with that that's true like we could discuss you know like we pretty much only do that with notre dame or florida state and oh man we're not doing that with florida state this week nope nope nope nope you got you got tomahawk chop by a north carolina kicker we're gonna get to that yeah we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna get deep into that

i think i think we just did oh no jason jason jason this is it's gonna be so it's gonna be so it's gonna be so much deeper than that you got to let it no i mean you you got to let it marinate before you before you peel the lid off it is that what it is i mean oh yeah we're we're definitely doing that this is the problem though with when you have a a team like a team uh hand signal whether it's the tomahawk chop or you know the gator gator chomp or hook of horns or thrown up to you or whatever it is you immediately expose yourself to somebody beating you and throwing it in your face and it's in feel like nothing makes me more irrationally angry than the memory of brock berlin gator chomping florida sideline after miami beat florida i think this is why

street gangs have really complex hand signs right yeah so that when when when they lose it can't just be really really simply um subverted like you have to you have to do you have to all sorts of really complicated stuff. Well, this is also why they're traveling trophies in the Big Ten so that your hands are occupied. And you can't make any signals. The only way FSU isn't already

like a street gang, but maybe look into that. It just it just, it's, it just don't make, if your team doesn't already have a hand signal, don't come up with one because it will get used against you. And it just

it would be so much more complicated if like if unc had beaten i don't know georgia tech and had started like singing the georgia tech fight song or something because nobody would hear him and just be like yeah i guess he's just yelling something who knows maybe you do like a leg signal like we we do this thing with our leg that's our that's our thing the fans do it nobody can see it you should do something that requires practice right because i at least if you're going to go ahead and do that and own me via gesture at the end the game. I want to make sure that you had to put in some work to do it, right?

A complex set of choreography, a complex choreography at least, right? Yeah, like you beat UCLA in Los Angeles and you have to really expertly Crip Walk. Yeah, it could be fair. I think that would be fair.

And like if you do it wrong, you're going to get owned online and at very least for dancing poorly. The teens, the teens, the teens will own you and they should right they're going to do it anyway but they would do it specifically and with reason week five was this better than week one overall no i wouldn't go quite that far yeah it had it had maybe more more instances of insanity but the overall if you if like

overall how much of the day was like really amazing interesting football it wasn't quite that level. Week one was just sprawling perfection, but week five had this moment where the whole world was collapsing all at once. In each college football season, there's like three or four of these moments where it's just like, holy shit, I don't even know which like three things to watch right now. This week was the first instance of that this season. Was that around, was that around like 630 or 7 o'clock? Yes. It always works that well because it helps cover up. some team that is doing poorly but not in an interesting way like I feel like because of everything that happened we all largely ignored Michigan State

Indiana for large stretches of the game so did Michigan State but then check then checked in right when it was going to overtime Michigan State was losing the old brass spittoon I didn't make that up because of a leaping penalty I didn't make that up but this was right after Georgia and Tennessee traded Hale Marys, which was basically the same time as the aforementioned kicker chopping. After a 54-yard kick, was it? It was a legit kick. It was long enough that everybody at that game was like, well, yeah, he's not going to make it.

It was long enough that if FSU tried it at Georgia Tech, Georgia Tech would run it back and beat FSU. Listen, blocked kicks don't need to be long, okay? That's true. they've only got to go two yards the wrong way that and that in this i think this was the first instance this of of a couple of games that you said okay absolute banger like we will remember this this is this is a highlight game clemson louisville i mean it's still relatively early in the season that was an outstanding game i rewatched it today that was unreal and not just because you got to watch deshawn watson and lamar jackson on the field at the same time

right well not at the same time that'd be really entertaining that would be pretty good there were there were a series of turnovers so quick in succession that it did feel like both offenses were on the field at once like a pro bowl skills competition right like we have just like the like the windows that move on little like wheels across the field like throw through this window more than the greatest like yeah like imagine passing drills yeah holograms and shit except with lamar jackson it's like he just jumps through those little windows, right? I could throw a ball, or I could throw my whole body through them. I'll just take it there myself. That'd be really entertaining. But yeah, Clemson, like, this was,

Clemson Louisville is the one that to me sticks out. That as the, wow, what a display of excellence. And Tennessee, Georgia is the, wow, I can't believe I watched 80 cars crash at once and someone lived. Someone who lived with Tennessee. It was Tennessee, Georgia was really more of like, Hey, I sat in traffic for two and a half hours, and then I watched two cars collide headlong into one another. Yeah, if you did not see this, oh, and woe unto those of you who did not in any form, right? Georgia dominated time of possession, dominated first downs, dominated yardage, dominated a lot of this game, and lost on a Hail Mary. Lost on a Hail Mary. Came back. Came back, mind you. in this game, right?

Got up, went down, came back with the freshman quarterback. Easton, Easton looked beautiful, right? In four plays, they take 57 seconds to go down the field and turn a 28-24 score into a 31-28 Tennessee lead. And that's not how it stayed. No, no. No, no. I was already, like the narrative was already set.

we were going to have a good old-fashioned SEC East cluster fuck we were going to have countervailing losses all over the place right we're going to have everybody be three and two in conference or two and three that's that's yeah that didn't happen it got messy and nasty and now Tennessee is in the clear as the two and oh in conference SEC East favorite signing up to play an Alabama team that yes at one point was down three zero 3-0 to Kentucky. How long did that last? Quite a while. Yeah, they didn't take the lead until the second quarter, so. It was a dog fight there for a little while. Everybody got their scoreboard screenshots in. There was plenty of time for that.

Yeah. Tennessee, my favorite thing about them now is they have gone from the team that famously blew four large fourth quarter leads last year to the team that already has four double-digit comebacks this year so I don't like whatever switch was flipped they got all their bad mojo

out of the way last year well I shouldn't say that because there's a lot of games left to go but so far it's amazing how they have completely flipped that script like the biggest glaring weakness has so far been you know

so far been a huge strength which which like watching them that kind of makes sense to me like last year they just got that all out of the way right like on the menu they said you know you're going to have to eat this horrendous salad and you're going to have to eat it at one point in tennessee last year just said yeah fine we'll eat this out give me the whole salad now i will get it out of the way also in the question of like i always think like hey man we've got to learn how to win games we got to learn that always seems really weird to me when you could just say oh wow we need like to not have quite so many catastrophic injuries and we need a senior quarterback which they have they have a great senior quarterback the baffling thing for me is that their offensive line isn't supposed to be this good and they've been really good they were great against florida they were pretty good against georgia they're playing like nine miles over their head so when people say you know my favorite mythical answers right like oh well they just learn how to win no no their offensive line is playing their balls off Yeah. Sure. I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with... It could be a large part of it. I'm going to go with magic. I'm going to go with sorcery magic, because all I know is this. Okay. That's good. Had a kid about a week ago since that child was born.

We haven't done that. You just walked back into the show and we haven't said, oh, congratulations. I didn't know if we were keeping it a secret from the podcast listeners or not. Yeah. Yeah, Tennessee, beaten Florida, beaten Georgia, since this East Tennessee sorceress that I helped give birth to. I'm sorry, the rest of the world. You're welcome to Tennessee. You're to blame for this. Yep.

And that's cool. That's fine. But on the plus side, my child has never lived a day in her whole life where Georgia has won a football game. and let's let's let's keep it that way can I also can I can I just get you to another reversal that's happened that I'm also going to pin on your recent life changes sure and congratulations to this podcast on now being 100% dad oh god dad cast dad full cast all since we started this um this this enterprise with a name that made no sense and then we made it make even less sense by changing full back to cast. Let's just change shutdown to shut dad. Shut dad. Shut dad.

We'll have an email newsletter associated it, which is the shut dad, full blast. Pennsylvania's third most popular Zidico band. Shut dad, full blast. That's the grossest thing I can imagine. I am imagining it, though, is the thing. By the way, do you think there are three Zidico bands in Pennsylvania? and if so, are they just confused in calling themselves Zatiko and, in fact, they're rap rock. It's rap rock.

It's actually rap polka. It's corn, but with a washboard. That's what we play. What was the other thing you wanted to lay at my feet? This, that I think we have to blame you for the reverse and polarities that resulted in, oh, good God, get the hell out of the way of Washington because good night. No, that's, you know who, you know whose fault. is that's dan rubinstein you were close spencer you just had to move over like one cubicle yeah

the this the los angeles seer himself dan rubinstein declared that washington undefeated was not only a likelihood it was a near certainty and lo and behold washington's real fucking good and the rest of the pack 12 uh uh in case anyone Missed this. This was Dan Rubinstein spent the summer reacting to blooming Washington hype by, I think he was attempting to Jinks Washington, kind of parodying the Washington hype. By pouring Miracle Grow on it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it all turned out to be true, so now we can just say, oh, sure, our guy, Dan, he's going smart. Dan called it.

Yeah, how'd that go? I really, I don't know if I really want to watch the Washington, Oregon. game with him this week, or I really don't. I think you need to see this. In person. It's especially good because his brother, Alex, went to Washington and fucking hates it that Oregon keeps beating them every, because his brother is very much in the mold of the person who thinks, who has thought, at least in the past, that Washington's way better

than they actually are. And there's a lot of chickens potentially coming home to roost. If we're talking about Washington, Washington defeating my beloved Stanford Cardinal, yeah, I got nothing. I have, like, no defense to offer here, and neither did Stanford really, because just the line play on both sides, the amount of pressure Washington was able to get without blitzing, and the amount of time that they had in the pocket when Stanford, whether or not Stanford was sending extra guys like Washington

it's only one game and things can happen the rest of the season but goddamn Washington looked like a top five team to me just based on that performance oh good God this was an ass kicking

like not even like I've never seen Stanford look that helpless at the line ever like not since all right how's this not in the post not in the post harbaw arrival Stanford era have I Tevens? We getting Tevens with it? Yeah, the Walt Harris era.

Not since Stanford had a couch that had a staff infection, right? If you don't know this story, Stanford had a couch that they had to, like, biohazard tape and throw out because it had a staff infection that it kept spreading to the players. Because players are just flopped down on it, sweaty, and eventually somebody with an epidemiological bent pointed out, hey, that couch is real nasty, you should throw it out. that's pretty much the most memorable thing about Stanford football in the modern era prior to the arrival of Jim Harbaugh. This Stanford looked that bad

by the way. They looked Buddy Teabins bad against Washington. Nearly got doubled up in total guards of offense. Gave up 10 tackles for loss, eight of which were sacks, lost the turnover battle, two to zero. Had a ton of penalties.

Yeah, go ahead. I know where you're going with this. Let me go to... Yeah, yeah, can I give you that rushing total? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, rushing total. Washington had 214 yards rushing on Stanford, which is pretty shocking.

But yeah, go ahead. Yeah, and that was on 41 attempts. So that's like a healthy but not, holy shit, 5.2 yards. Stanford, and again, those eight sacks definitely coming to play here. 30 rushes for 29 yards. the yeah they and Christian McCaffrey's numbers in this game

meaningless absolutely meaningless all purpose all purpose yards as Bud would point out he ran back a lot of punts he did racking up the all purpose yards he actually

he actually had no punt returns because that because uh Washington only punted twice he had a lot of kick returns kickoff kickoff yeah that's what I meant that's what I meant it um yeah

I will say there is a part of me that all season long you watch Stanford kind of struggle against Kansas State and kind of struggle against UCLA and you're like eh well maybe they're just figuring things out nope turns out you just had fundamental issues that that really didn't get solved most a lot of which right now feel like boy this team misses Kevin Hogan yeah and in addition to that we did have a quarterback change in game yeah early right very early we also this is almost identical in a lot of ways that defeat to Northwestern which was actually a way worse loss I know that's going west to east

I know it was early for them but in that game they stank on offense had about 240 yards and struggled as well so I mean I don't know whether this is indicative of man this Stanford team sucks and we've just been completely hoodwinked or this is the one

absolute clanker that a David Shaw Stanford team will throw up before you know recuperating rejuvenating and becoming the like turf mauling intellectual cruelty that we're used to seeing from them so I don't my answer is I don't know but it will be kind of hard to tell because a lot of the teams

left on Stanford's on Stanford schedule might be might be Dukey themselves I mean they play Notre Dame they do play Notre Dame they do play but but you know what the main I think the main reason for Notre Dame to feel good about that game Stanford's gonna be looking ahead to Colorado the next week oh the buffs dreading the buffs can I give you get let me segue here that would be the number 21 AP poll ranked buffs ranked for the first time since

2005 Colorado back Buffs bike close to a bowl game we're getting so close y'all they're just going to get to six wins and it's all maybe from there okay then then they'll just forego the rest of the season yeah that's it that's fine just take a lap do it you're good another by the way another team uh that is somehow still ranked not real sure florida how that's that's we don't have to talk about no no no no no no we are not talk about florida vanderbilt i just saw a lot of people i saw people complaining that Florida State that Florida State was still being ranked by by some voters and I was

just like okay but Florida uh-huh yeah yeah that would be by the way that that's Florida State uh their record in conference right now they're 0 and 2 in the ACC same as Boston College yeah they're oh and two and somehow still ranked at 23 that's fine you can point out the Florida ranked um I'm gonna give three words on Florida Bandy. No, we're not. No, we're not. I watched none of this. I watched none of this game, and I've never felt so smart. It absolutely, it was a Will Mustchamp game, start, finish. I had no interest in, and this is, I said this is Spencer on Saturday. I want to apologize to our Iowa, Iowa State fans,

because low-key, Florida Vanderbilt is the true El-Assico of college football. at this point, it is the game that always, always, always, just stinks to high fucking heaven. Yeah, that's never, it's never been good. And, and like Iowa State, you wonder why Vanderbilt's in a Power 5 conference.

And like Iowa, which also had a... It has, I mean, there are a lot of parallels here. Iowa and Florida, I feel like they're constantly... A really dismal effort against a smart school. Constantly destined for outback bowl status.

Yeah. Can we, since we're talking about the rankings, the latest, in the latest AP poll. I'm looking at the right one here. Florida States at 23, Utah, after, I don't even know where to start with that fucking lost cow. Cal defense is what it was. Yep, that's what it was. The sturdy, classic cow bear defense.

Yep, the unyielding Berkeley Wall, as it's known. Seven snaps. Inside the 10 couldn't crack that wall. Utah's 24. Florida's 18. You know who's just outside? Just outside the top 25. Others are seeing...

You rowing up. Western Michigan? Western Michigan. If I asked you straight up, that if I told you Florida and Western Michigan, we're playing tomorrow on a neutral site with their current injury status and all of that, who are you picking straight up? Western Michigan Yep, me too

And that's And honestly That is not just me Being shitty about Florida Because I'd probably pick him Against that Utah team too And Florida State I would have feelings about

But West Virginia Oh I'd take you I mean I'd sure Let's give it a go West Virginia needed a huge fourth quarter To beat a not all that great Kansas state team at home

Yeah We were looking at the top 25 today just kind of casually looking at it. And talking to a couple of people, there might be somewhere between six to eight teams that I would classify as, yeah, they're probably not but. Okay.

Everyone else, you're, everyone else, you got percentages of butt. And I don't mean Jake. I don't mean, in the good sense. Nope, I mean just buttacular. Not, you have obvious weaknesses, and you can throw up an absolute trash heap of a game at any point on your schedule.

Yeah. who was the trashiest this week then besides like of the teams that are still ranked yeah of the teams that are still hanging around besides stanford besides stankin-ass stantford besides stanford um besides florida who i know it's a win but who

it is it is it is a win it's a win it's a win that got them jumping five spots in the pulse I want to add Oklahoma, which almost gave up a 25-point comeback in the fourth quarter to TCU. Almost, almost, just enough to get the Mike Stoops tweets bubbling, but they did hold on for that win. But I think they get the side-eye. Also, Nebraska is very suspiciously close against Illinois for a long, long time for pulling away. Also, Baylor, which needed 17 points in the fourth quarter, was it? Yeah, it was the annual aim scare.

Yeah, I was going to say almost, almost got the don't knock until you riot t-shirt handed to them. That I will also put for not only losing, but losing in a manner so unbefitting to both offense and defense on this play. Cal beat Utah. And not only did they beat Utah, they beat Utah on, Cal, I don't know, they must be ill. Because they managed to win this game being outgained,

being out first down, and by staging a goal line stand to keep Utah out at the end of the game. So was every Pac-12 game this week a reversal of roles? Because Stanford, Washington did Stanford, like Stanford usually does Washington. Utah and Cal completely traded

identities. Utah ran more plays, like way more plays, and no one really knows how. Washington State beat Oregon. Oregon State still played the role of Pac-12 Dormat. Collapse against Arizona State? What is happening out there? UCLA, Arizona, happened. No one really knows. I have no clue what that. I just realized I haven't even looked at that score. I have no idea. Yeah, by the way, the Colorado result that we were talking about, you know, like since they began conference play, you know, two and one.

So that's, again, a reversal of a trend with Colorado actually beating Oregon State. So even that played against type here. Yeah, Pac-12 drunk as hell all the time, but especially so this weekend with everybody just switching roles. I don't know. I think things in Eugene feel pretty sober right now. oh yeah let's come on that's if you want the weirdest yeah that's Washington state rushing running the ball outrushing Oregon which which like look Washington state has said over over the last year year and a half like yeah that's a thing they're willing to do if you give it to them

they clearly did their homework and knew that Oregon can't stop the run to literally save their lives and decided to go with it they still threw the ball plenty they threw 48 passes for almost 400 yards so like like that oh don't worry they still threw all over oregon of course they did it was it's it's it was just a total collapse by the oregon defense right you give up 650 yards and they're they're pretty nicely split between pass and rush you can't just say oh man you can't stop the run guys you can't stop anything yeah yeah it's funny that's that seemed to be uh the problem last year so they brought in a defensive coordinator with a sterling resume as a head coach.

I can't even do it. I can't. Yeah. Brady Hope. And it's funny that changing coordinators didn't actually change any of the results whatsoever. In fact, it might have made them worse. Because right now... Are they making a bowl game?

Can I go ahead and get that crazy? Because they've already lost three in a row. That hasn't happened to Oregon since 2007. When what happened, Dennis Dixon blew out his ACL. Yeah, on my, on my weekly board, I dropped him this week and not a single person complained. Like, I have, I have them not making a bowl for, I think, the second time in like the last 19 years. Can I give you, yeah, let's give you that schedule real quick just to go Washington. That's an L.

Yep. Like, oh, that's a super. That's a, that's a vigorous L. Vigour. Yeah, that's a capital L right there. So they lose to Washington at Cal. They could lose that, especially now that Cal is a defensive team. Welcome.

Welcome to 2016. Versus Arizona State. Sure. No reason Arizona State could do that. USC. USC, by the way. USC looked good, man. They looked good.

They took it to Arizona State. So I don't see any reason if I think Arizona State can win that game. Why USC can't be Oregon. Versus Stanford, I assume Stanford will just be back to murder bear at that point. They'll just have fixed everything. and optimize the processes, and they'll just pave them. That leaves at Utah and at Oregon State. That means that of those games, Utah and Oregon State,

they could drop Utah, and then Oregon State's the only one I see that's an automatic win on the rest of the schedule. And even then, man, that's a rivalry game. I don't know how much Oregon State's going to improve. No, Oregon State, no. I am not so out on Oregon that I think Oregon State is ready to win that game. Hang on, hang on, right. Okay, hang on, hang on.

mm-hmm i got so i got i got four words for you okay brady hoak interim coach see see this is where i just flipped this is where i remind everyone when was the last time organ fired a coach so long so long 2016 yeah it's it would it would be do you know that do you know the the year the actual year it was we discussed this right it was 1976 correct but like entire lifespan with Oregon never firing

this is how I choose to think of it and this is wildly inaccurate and I don't care things are so bad at Oregon that Chip Kelly who's pretty geographically close now is like yeah no I'm good coaching Blaine Gabbard in the NFL I'm good coaching this NFL that was gutted by everyone quitting

when Jamar ball left I'll stay here can I get you to another coordinator coordinators under fire people who may or may not have anything to do with how this is not working. That would be North Carolina 37,

Florida State 35. That would be Florida State 0 and 2. O and 2 in the ACCC. This defense is bad. This defense is so bad. They've been bad for almost a solid month now. Yeah, yeah. I mean, even with Delved, like Delvin Cook

started cooking, for lack of a better word, and had three TDs and had a really nice game, probably his best game. at the season overall when you look at his production and how timely it was dalvin cook uh was not enough to overcome this 372 yards from d'andre francois was not enough to overcome the inability to stop uh wow what force of nature did they have at quarterback oh that's right mitch trubisky mitch trubisky threw for 405 on you you would see as a quarterback who sounds like a you know season five addition to criminal minds or nc i s or something

he sounds like a very 1992 quarterback yeah yeah well he opened up an investigation on you son and it didn't come up well boys and blue got you this time Florida State yeah it's been a while hadn't it

oh that was good it doesn't happen often yeah I just here's the other thing Dalvin Cook 29 carries 140 yards for three touchdowns that's great it's also against UNC like on the scale of what

you should be able to do to UNC on the ground? Isn't that kind of just so so? Granted, he, you know, he added another 100 receiving, but, I mean, Bud on Twitter was basically making the argument that at this point, Jimbo Fisher needs to know that his defense can't get the job done. And so he should be going into games expecting or asking his offense to score at least six touchdowns, which if they had scored six touchdowns in this game, they win. Is there anything to that? Is it sort of, is it sort of fair to say that Florida

State needs to be adjusting in the sense of just saying, well, we only really have one strong side of the ball and we're just going to pour all of our remaining attribute points into that. This, this defensive coordinator, by the way, Charles Kelly, Auburn came after him a year or two ago. FSU re-upped him to stay. Auburn hired Kevin Steele, I believe, was the timeline, Kevin Steele now has a better defense than Charles Kelly, because life is endlessly hilarious. Fair. Life is fair and sensible. Yeah, this is, of course, one of my favorite things to do, which is the, oh, how you looking now? Which is where somebody who works somewhere else

is now at a different location and is looking at the team going, ah, well, funny that you got rid of me, how well did that work? Miami beat Georgia Tech 3521 and beat Georgia Tech on Bobby Dodd Field where Mark Rick has never lost a game and it's still never lost a game and is 1 and 0 in the ACC 4 and O overall in Miami looking loose. They are so relaxed they are playing such a relaxed

and yet aggressive style of football just never seem to hurry anything even when they are flattening a B-back or destroying the triple option yet again. Georgia Tech, by the way, somehow it's still three and two. That's one of the weirdest results for me

is that I look up how are you all three and two at all because every time i see you you're being pushed five yards back at the line of scrimmage come on you remember the ireland game against boston college it's that it's that engineer math man don't even try don't even try to figure it out um big big variants is big gains man it'll all work out i am i am a little potentially worried about miami just because it's looked so easy for them at this point in the season like they They have not had a game where you've said, like, oh, Miami's on the ropes here. What happens when they do?

Because I don't think they are talented enough to just control every game start to finish, especially considering who's left on the schedule for them. And I don't know. I'm just sort of academically curious about, because that was kind of Miami's problem in years past, is they'd sort of stumble a bit and it turn into, you know, you'd be. Two games, three games, four games. Right, right. You'd be the man falling off of the ski lift, slowly rolling down the mountain and turning

into a giant ball of snow, destroying the ski lodge. But if you look at the rest of the schedule, I mean, they get a reeling FSU at home. Right, right. And they're going to want that win more than FSU does. Sure. Also, they have a whole lot more to play for, and, you know, they have a whole lot more bad history to shake off as of late. They probably have the better team.

But after that, I mean, do we really really? Well, they have UNC and Notre Dame in the three games after that. And I'm not saying that those teams are amazing, but I am saying that those are teams that are good enough on offense that I could see them jumping out to a 17-point lead early. And that's sort of what I'm saying. Like, how does Miami respond at that point since they haven't had to under Mark Ricked? Sure, sure, sure. We don't really know what we don't really know what that looks like yet.

Right. Let me give you one reminder. Brad Kaya is a really good quarterback. If he's even like 70, let's just say 75% of a Mitch Trubisky, then they're in trouble. Because I'm pretty sure Brad Kaya can slice up that Charles Kelly defense, right? I said Charles Kelly defense just to make Bud happy because that's what we're going to call it, right? It's not the FSU defense. That's not FSU defense.

That's a Charles Kelly defense right there. That's not a brand. That's not a brand we play here. You've been stripped of your franchising responsibilities. You're now an independent subways. This is now a bank that just looks like a pizza hut. Can we wrap up with another franchise franchisee dispute that may be my favorite from the weekend? And this is, by the way, following an Oklahoma State victory over Texas, where Texas's athletic director said,

oh we need to evaluate that when asked we need to figure out what happened when coming off the field after losing in stillwater 49-31 to the texas to the oklahoma state cowboys okay they're still looking for that down plain in the pacific these things take time this is delightful by the way because that's not actually the story that got the most pub coming out of this game in terms of management disputes in big old swinging dick big 12 all right it was this it was that after After a 4931 win, Mike Gundy said, I hate that he feels the way he does in reference to Mega Booster T. Boone Pickens, aka the guy who runs the program. I mean, I don't know what I have to do. I just have to do my job. I can't do anything about it. And you know what? At some point, if somebody feels it ain't good enough, then hell, somebody else can come in here

and try it. I mean, I'm good. That was what he said after a 4931 win. over the conference's mega power. Well, it's so unlike Mike Gundy to just shoot off at the mouth, I mean. This is,

Pickens said, by the way, there are comments that drew this and provoked this while taping a podcast. That's the best part, by the way, that T-Boon Pickens is out here, like dropping bombs on podcasts, right? Like, T-Boon Pickett's with Charlamine the God.

This is him. Mike doesn't handle people relationships. very well, Pickens said, and he gets mad about things. I've heard he's written some notes about me that weren't very complimentary. Like... Yeah.

A lot of people are saying there are documents he's written about me. What the fuck is Mike Gundy writing? Come on man. What is Mike Gundy write? Like, this is... Like, this is Voltaire writing to like Edmund Burke,

right? Like, um, a saucy note that I have received here on the eve of August 23rd, 1780. No, nobody sent a notes. He sent a couple of unflattering texts about me. Whatever. You just beat Texas. You just beat the hell out of Texas, by the way. Like, hung 21 on them in a quarter.

Not that that might mean anything because our euphoria, again, we're on record as being a nine or ten win team here for Texas, correct? Yeah, we're fine. Again, again, I never agreed to this, and I'm feeling great about it. Yeah. Ryan, Tony's Texas longhorns and still go nine and three. We just got to get this defense wrap. I don't, listen, I don't want to cut you off, but you'll appreciate why I am, Spencer.

What I really like about Texas is that they're doing what every other team that beats Notre Dame this season is doing, looking like complete ass after they do it. Like Texas, Texas takes out Notre Dame in a game in week one that we're like, oh, this is meaningful because it shows that Texas is back. well you know a cow loss and this Oklahoma State game later not so much Michigan State oh look at that what a gritty win over noted oh just lost to Indiana in a field goal kicking contest Duke goes again goes into Notre Dame Duke oh god and you're thinking well you know it's a David Cutcliffe team they're so well coached et cetera et cetera what happened in Duke this week They lost it home to Virginia by two touchdowns.

It's wonderful. The transit of property by which teams are saying, hey, we want to show you how good you have to be to be Notre Dame, and it's not that good. It warms every evil cell in my body. It only confirms to me and to the rest of the world that the fighting Irish are, in fact, a wasting disease. It's not that college football is,

it's better when Notre Dame's good, that it's good for college football. In fact, we've proven, like, immunologically that that's not true. You play Notre Dame, and you get sick. You are the bubonic rats, Notre Dame. College football is just better where Notre Dame loses. Did we discuss Wisconsin, Michigan at all? Do we need to?

No. Like, is there anything anyone needs to know about this game? Nope. It unfolded exactly as everyone predicted. Here's the only, I'm going to use that as segue. way just this is clumsy as shit i don't even care um mac brown called this game and i bring that up only to reference that on friday night during adam amends a god during the b yu toledo game mac brown just left just left work early because he had to catch like i i he so he leaves

the booth with like what 10 minutes left in the game and entire minutes and he says it's because he he says he He says it's because he has to catch a flight. And in my head, I'm just like, please tell me that Mac Brown is one, like, the opposite of Spencer. And he's that dad who's like, well, we got to get to the, we really got to get to the airport seven hours early, y'all. I don't, you know, security, security is a delicate thing. You really got to have your, you're in Salt Lake City. You got to have your liquids and your shoe laces in order. And I hope, I hope that he had like a 9 a.m. flight the next day.

Midnight on Friday. You've got to get there three hours early. So Adam I'm in has to carry this whole broadcast by himself and does a brilliant job at it, by the way. But my favorite thing that I've been doing is imagining Mac Brown walking at random into other broadcast nonsensically and just arriving at random. Sort of like the end of blazing saddles. Right, right. Like, yeah, like Mac Brown walks in and goes, they lose me after the bunker scene. Like, yeah, that's what Mac Brown does, right?

that he walks into Michigan, Wisconsin for five minutes and said, what a beautiful scene here at the big house. Okay, I got to catch an Uber. I got to get moving. It's going to be so good. Like he's the special guest in like a bowl game in like the third quarter. Like we're here at the belt bowl. Hey, Bert Reynolds just walked in the booth.

Mac Brown. You never know where he'll pop up. And there's like a game. There's a hashtag where's Mac? Yeah, there's like a follow along. you're watching a Champions League game and it's like FC Shalka versus Dinamo Kiev and all of a sudden like you know hey everybody this is just absolutely fantastic quite a scene here at the Champions League I think

FC Shalk has got a great great program going here don't know much about dina Mo Kiev but they look real well coach okay I'll see you later I got to go catch the tube yeah welcome to this audio daily double y'all I'm so pleased to be here I know these are pre-taped but I showed up in person all the same You seem to be putting a lot of effort into this, and I think your wife appreciates that. I'm making love to my wife, Mac Brown. Haven't we done this before?

Matt Brown watches you fuck people. I feel like this is the second or third time we've discussed this. Maybe I have some therapy I need to go through, okay? Call me, Mac. Let's just get this out of the way.