Shutdown Fullcast - Shutdown Fullcast 4.41 - Speedrunnin' Week 6

Episode Date: October 4, 2016

THE FULLCAST RIDES FOR WEEK FIVE, which hits status as “a pretty good week” because it contains both “college football” and “passably good college football.” We tried to be quick about it, which went about as well as that usually does. TOPICS: --Spencer gets very excited about the best noon slate of the year, while Ryan and Jason remind him that it is still a noon slate --Why Tennessee suddenly can’t lose football games, aka “the Butch Jones cashes in a decade of collected football karma skymiles all at once” stratagem --Ryan finds a matchup so repellent even he cannot hate-watch it (good god, y’all) --Did you know Maryland is undefeated, and could very realistically beat Penn State this weekend? That won’t be awkward at all for anyone, especially you, person who just realized Maryland is undefeated. --Miami and FSU might be playing in a hurricane, which would be cool --Georgia and South Carolina might be playing in a hurricane, which really wouldn’t be any different since South Carolina always looks like they’re playing in a stiff wind and driving rain even in clear skies and bright sunshine --The Red River Rivalry is happening this weekend! Abandon hope, wake up early, and just see how nothing you anticipated happening happens again for the 111th time in a row --Ryan leaves the podcast early, a la Mack Brown in the middle of the Toledo/BYU game --Jason and Spencer answer reader questions as fast as they can, including the all-important question of what game is better for freakish weather than the 2000 Independence Bowl where it snowed in Shreveport? (A: nothing, ever) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the shutdown fullcast brought to you coast to coast, because we're literally recording coast to coast because I'm still in California for at least another nine hours. This is Spencer Hall. Founder of Every Day should be Saturday. And, you know, SB Nation as well, joining me. You say that with such hesitation. Like you're like, you're unclear? Yeah, you know, you have to do. Did you, you can be honest. Did you forget the name? name of the company you would it surprise you if i did which what were you about to say were you about to say sporting news uh no i was sport magazine i was going to go older than that let's let's let's let's go ahead and float the rumor now that spencer is in california because

he's auditioning to uh replace shannon sharp on skip balas's show gotta get those ratings up and what says ratings more than a man whose eyes you can barely see beard it'll be good because you know skip will be in his suit and tie in the whole you know his is traditional look and spencer will just be in a tank top casually thinking about taking off the tank top mid show i got to show skip what's up how else am i going to display dominance my takes my takes my takes my takes won't make a dent let's see if let's see if these chiseled pecks well remember skip balis is more scared of you than you're scared of him Like, yeah, like a bee.

Yeah, exactly. He's wildlife, okay? Wildlife wants us to steer clear of you, all right? While we advise that you carry Skip Bayliss spray, just be advised that encounters with him are, in fact, largely benign and entirely one-sided. Just don't feed the Skip Baylis. Jason Kirk joining us from beautiful Kennesaw, Georgia.

It's actually nice there, right? Oh, Georgia is extra beautiful today, because, as we all know, whenever hurricanes are inbound elsewhere, Georgia gets only the nice weather, only the breeze is floating in from that. It's, of all the things in the world that impact places unequally, this is one where Georgia actually comes out ahead. So while we don't celebrate it, we do look out and say, huh, well, it's nice out here. I do enjoy that the only time the weather is really super nice in Georgia outside of like a three-month window is when there's a disaster happening somewhere else.

I mean, that's sort of the most SEC East way to live, isn't it? It really is. Yeah, I'd say right now, we are South Carolina in 2013. Everything else is collapsed, and we're sort of just coasted. Yeah, I was going to say, like, Missouri 2014, but that works too. We're like Tennessee 2016, you know, just a downtrodden long-term, nobody finally scoring some wins because everyone else sucks. Tennessee Volunteers, 2016. Watch me, watch me segue out of this.

So Tennessee is Georgia's college football team? Great, let's move on. That's great. That was good, Ryan. I was about to get on the segue. Yeah, I was about to get on the segue and was side swiped. Yeah, just kicked. By the 18 wheeler rolling through.

Kicked you right in the knee. I'm sorry, please go ahead. The segue I was attempting to make was, speaking in Tennessee, oh man, they have to play a football game this weekend. week six we got week six to talk about which I'm excited about you can say oh man the season's going so fast no it's getting good this is when things this is when you actually start to have anticipated outcomes verifiable traits and talents for teams and yes teams that will completely flip on those in a second that's already happened hi week five hi Stanford I enjoyed this time of year because this is when you start to get expectations and then you realize how foolish those are because teams will completely play against them. Tennessee, as we all know, the SEC East favorites after, I think, a dominant and decisive win over Georgia. Yep. No, never, never a doubt. Never a wire. Never more than four seconds of doubt.

I saw something, if you missed it, by the way. Hail Mary. Last second. Tennessee wins, that kind of thing. I saw it. Who's missed it at this point? And listening to this podcast. you know if you're out there i admire your complete ability to block out the dominant stories of a week i'm gonna say unc like there's some unc fan who hasn't because they had a huge win around that time that person just started sprinting around the block got super drunk passed out and like you know uncc fan you're not really checking football scores you're looking at like basketball recruiting god yeah coming like it that's i like that because too they're like why don't you talk about the heels talk about the heels he just did to which we say well i don't

you talk about the heels yeah that you start first then we'll follow the thing that i wanted to get to this week first was yeah tennessee tennessee plays a real interesting game because uh they're undefeated i know it seems weird after you watch them play but yeah undefeated decisively so at this point now going to play texas a and m and they're playing them in college station and these are two teams when you start to look at them you go uh they're not dissimilar like mobile quarterbacks good mobile quarterbacks who made a difference good defensive line

some really good skilled players especially at wide receiver not dissimilar teams kind of a toss-up like I was looking at I was like I have no sound decisive feelings about this game other than it'll be fun to watch should be yeah

I like that this game is and not to make yet another pro wrestling metaphor but I was I was born in Atlanta during the when WCW became a thing y'all are just going to have to put up with it they're just going to keep coming but this is like the number one contender match tennessee and amm to find out who gets the actual legit shot at bama because both these teams play bama i think in the next two or three weeks um and we're going to look at one of those and say ah well okay bama's going to crush that team the other one we're going to say oh this team's got chance we're

going to talk ourselves into it maybe they can take the strap off bama they won't but we'll at least know which team to talk ourselves into that about. And like my head says that A&M is a better team. Like, you know, I just looking at these two. Yeah, my head, first of all, is not very good. Secondly, my brain isn't very good. But the, it's impossible to bet against a team like 2013, Auburn, 2014, Florida State or 2016, Tennessee, a team that just bullshits its way to wins every week.

so yeah toss up sure so it's interesting spencer that you said these teams feel very similar because the biggest difference between them at least to me is that texas a and m can run the ball so so so well they average over 6.7 yards of carry they've already got 15 touchdowns on the ground and tennessee is like in the bottom third of the SEC rushing right now and by the way middle tennessee is a spot ahead of Tennessee in terms of rushing offense, put them in the right contest. And there's nobody saw that coming before the season started, just given the two primary backs in the Tennessee offense and the fact that Josh Dobbs is happy to run the

ball bit. But also because, I mean, when was the last time Texas A&M had consistent rushing threats that were worth a damn? They have been, they've been awesome this year on the ground. Yeah, helped by one. Let's see. their quarterback still in the league somehow still in the league Trevor Simeon believe it or not doing double duty it's amazing it's like the white bow jackson yeah no senior senior Trevor Knight who is it does enough when they throw the ball to basically not fuck up which is fine that that you know that's better in a lot of SEC situations right now uh yeah that's a lot better than most addition to the additionally

It's on the road. Not that that mattered last week at all. The vaunted home field advantage of Sanford Stadium. I would point out, by the way, that like every time I thought, oh, let's think about it came at Sanford Stadium. Is Georgia getting just destroyed? Yeah. I see a little difference between, you know,

there's something to distinguish 90,000 collapsible Georgia fans and 100,000 pissing themselves with fans. Fury A&M fans. This is a little bit step up in difficulty as far as the environment goes. Additionally, looking toward this week, this is the first week when we have the Wednesday game.

Oh, we got a special one. Live from the tree stand, by the way. Georgia Southern at Arkansas State. Live from Fayette Nam. Wednesday night fun belt back. Yeah, it's actually Jones Boogie. It's from Jonesboro. so A.K.A. Jones Boogie, live from the tree stand at Arkansas State. Yeah, Fayette, Vietnam.

Good morning, Fayette. Good morning, Fattenham. A different team gets to go to Fayette Nam, by the way. We'll get there. In case you, yeah, we'll get there. That's going to be a very, that's an interesting game to me too. And one that I put way too many confidence points on. We can talk about my debacle of a college football confidence game pick thus far.

But to stick to the schedule, we have a Thursday game as we have a Thursday game. as we have a slate of Thursday games, all of which are weird. You got Temple at Memphis, which is potentially a good game. Sure. I'm down for that, sure. But in Western Kentucky at Louisiana Tech,

in case you just want to see WKU drop bombs, as they are prone to do. You got a Friday game, which I don't know if you want to watch any of these at all, but Clemson at Boston College, if you want to watch everyone, just be disappointed. Come on, I, because I am not a good person. You live for this game.

I'm not a good person. I really, after seeing what Clemson was able to do at spots, not the whole game, granted, against Louisville on defense, I really want to see the Boston College offense play them. It's not right, but it's sort of like watching somebody pull on to the highway going the wrong way. And you're just sort of like, yeah, I'll call the cops, but let's see what happens. uh yeah this is um this is when this is when everyone else see sadness and you see art yeah that's who i am um but but given the other what is there a friday game you'd rather watch other than clemson boston college there's one other possibility they're all like potentially decent i mean boise state is on the road against a team at lost two um and boise state is the mountain west's last new year's hope um

SMU and Tulsa, they can score points. Tulane and UCF, they can score points. And I don't know, maybe Clemson on the road on a short week, extremely far on the road, against it that has recently had a good defense, doesn't appear to this year. I give all four of these games a keep an eye on it, great. I would just say keep an eye on Clemson Boston College

to see if BC can exceed their record of 13 punts in a game. I believe in them. I believe in them, absolutely. I think Brett Venables, considering the role he has the Clemson defense on, we can get more, we can get a 14th punt out of this team. Well, I think the challenge is Clemson's going to have to hold back and not force turnovers if they want that punt record. What if I told you?

Like, I actually would appreciate if Clemson coached all the DBs to be like, now listen, you're going to get your hands on an interception. I want you to drop it. We're going for punts. I don't want you to jumping on fumbles, no. we're going for punts I would I would also

like the idea of getting a 30 for 30 on this on like the two punters trying to punt the most in a season because right now Boston College I know you're astonished to hear this this week really brought them down they were scoring so they're now

down to fifth in the nation they've only punted 34 times in five games it's a lot they're still behind several teams including Fresno State and Rice Fresno State is punted 42 times So if you want the the agony aunt

Of college football right now It's Fresno State I mean Boston College isn't even the top Power 5 team when it comes to punts That's Rutgers baby One better See I think there's a 30 for 30 here You track both punters being like

I know he got more than I did last night And given that Given that Ruckers punted 10 times against Ohio State, they play Michigan this week. Yeah, I'm not going to go. That's going to be a good, good punt ruse. This might be too, blocked punts because Michigan's real good at that. So if you like block puns, hey, we just told you the game to watch for you special teams, kinks, freaks. Congratulations.

This takes us to Saturday. Ryan, where are we lining up in the noon shift? I mean, you definitely are going to want to keep an eye on Texas, Oklahoma, just because narrative is so fucking stupid in that game at this point. Maryland's undefeated. That's not a thing we've talked about. Good, good, good, we'll keep it that way. I have not watched any Maryland football this year, so I have no idea if they're good or not.

Next. Hold on. You may want to keep an eye on Maryland Penn State, because Penn State, we didn't talk about it last week, needed overtime to beat Minnesota. If they lose to Maryland at home, oh boy, James Franklin. Remember, that's a big rivalry game. It's a big rivalry game.

And then I don't know. Yeah, say it, do it. Yeah. I don't have great feelings about LSU, Florida. Nope. LSU looked really, really hot against Missouri. I think Florida is a better team than Missouri, but Florida in the last two weeks has not shown a

off on offense to make me think that they can really test LSU's defense, which is fine. You know, I think it feels like Florida is like easing into a nine and three, eight and four season, and that's okay. I'm not going to be real heated about it at this point. I mean, can I just with the note of vague discontent in my voice? Yeah. Go, how's this much different? How's it, is it looking a lot?

before? Is it looking a lot different than its previous? I mean, there's definitely more effort on offense. And other than that, I don't see much different. There's more effort. And I think there's more, you see more attempts, like, there's more attempts to try to throw the ball deep and do more interesting things with the running game. It definitely is not as plotting as the Will Must Champ offenses were. It's still, some of it's still personal, some of it's still that the offensive line is inconsistent at best. It's fine. You know, it's not a big deal.

It'll be good for Ed Orgeron. And look, the way I look at it is, do I value Florida winning more than I value the possibility of Ed Orgeron getting the full-time job at LSU? And in this instance, the answer is no. That's good. That's a good way to look at it. Ed Orderon, of course, who runs a wide open spread offense there at LSU, which failed to score many points in the first few weeks of the season.

I'm not sure why. but Ed Orgeron's spread offense has finally clicked and is producing, produced a school record in an SEC game number of yards against Missou last week, and Missou actually still has a pretty good defense. You can look at the numbers. So here I look for Ed Orgeron's classic spread offense to just be too much for the Gators. Yeah, but LSU doesn't run a spread offense. They broke the first huddle of the game last week with four wide receivers. It is a wide, wide open, downfield passing attack. I believe in their first drive, they threw the ball like at least three times.

It's the airboat. It's the airboat raid system. That's what it's called. The airboat raid. The airboat raid. Oh, well, now we know what we can, now we know what to call it when Tom Herman takes his job next year. I think they just call it the gun and shoot and you're like, it's kind of redundant.

No, it ain't. No, it ain't. I got a gun and I also shoot. What do you do with the gun? So my general advice for Noon is pick a game to settle in on keep your phone or computer close by so that inevitably when one of these other games gets close, you can flip over to that. Because a lot of these games will probably be pretty meh. But I will venture to say there will be at least two games that going into the fourth quarter,

you're like, hmm, NC states up 10 on Notre Dame. Well, okay, that may not be a good example given Notre Dame this year. But something of that ilk will happen. Well, do this. watch Texas, Oklahoma, keep the Notre Dame game on standby because every Notre Dame game could break out in a 90-point shootout at any moment, but just watch Texas. That's what we're all going to do together. We're going to watch Texas, Oklahoma, we're all going to make jokes.

Fake Gimmel on Twitter suggests Charlie Strong just show up wearing the gold hat and wear it the entire game, which, hey, you know, if it's your last game, why not stunt on your way out, and it might throw Bob Stoops off. Maybe the glinting sunlight. Can I damn with faint praise here and say that this noonslate is probably, like this noon slate probably the best of the year because I can see of these games I can see like five or six of them being one possession games with two minutes left sure easily you know now I'm not saying what kind of one possession games Iowa Minnesota it might be a three three game that's one

possession Iowa Minnesota there might just be one position Georgia Tech pit I don't even know if they'll make off they'll finish a possession Iowa Minnesota feels like somehow the game's going to be decided on an in-bounds pass. And I know that doesn't make sense, but it will. Excited by, uh, icing. Not, not the, not the Minnesota Dairy Queen kind, but the, the hockey kind. No, or, or, or Minnesota Dairy Queen kind. This can come down to a tub. I never know. It's frosting. It really good. The, the, the noon slate is fine. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's

it's pretty, but it's pretty, what I'm saying is this is like the best chain food you'll get all year. Especially if you compare it to like the three o'clock slate. The three o'clock slate. The three clock slate isn't significantly better than the noon slate. I don't think. Well, we have Tennessee A&M and Virginia Tech, UNC, and Houston, one of its hardest games left. The 330 is, it's what we need out of a 330 spot in my opinion. Okay, that's fair. You got a game that matters a lot, a backup game, sorry, ACC Coastal, and, you know, Indiana's playing. And you got Colorado USC at 4 o'clock. So, yeah, there's a the one game you really want to avoid in this stretch no matter how tempted you are even me the most evil person on this podcast will tell you i won't watch this game vanderbilt at

kentucky just nope just what's slide on by okay cool i was about to ask what's wrong with you but even you no no no this is this is this is a bridge too far for me what if it's perdu at illinois or vandy at kentucky what if those are somehow the only two channels you get um yeah Purdue, Illinois, because you know what, Levy Smith is a handsome man. Okay. Yeah. Also, I do want to point out here that in that 3 to 3.30, 3 o'clock spot,

4 o'clock spot, we have Indiana at Ohio State, which, if you are a fan at all of Team Chaos, and you should be, Team Chaos, aka Indiana. Indiana being the random outcome generator of college football teams last week, they I think they won a game on a leaping penalty. I didn't even know that was possible. It's true. Yeah, but Indiana won a game on a leaping penalty. I'm not saying

that Indiana will win. No, no, no, no, no, no. You misunderstand Team Chaos if you think that victory is an important part of the storyline. No, no, no, it's irrelevant. It's merely how you get to the outcome. It's the journey when you watch Indiana

football. It'll entertain. Maybe not an Indiana football fan. No, no, no. This is for you, a third-party uninvested person. But that's not why you're here, Indiana football fan. We're unclear why you are, but it's not to be entertained. Yeah, exactly. I don't know why you're watching your own house burn down, but I'm going to pull up a chair. Maybe Indiana football fandom is the closest thing we have to purgatory,

where it's just like you have to do this to atone for some, like you're not in hell. You're not Purdue. I don't know. purgatory sounds boring Indiana football is exciting but not if you're it's like farm purgatory

but it's like Spencer said if you're invested in it it can't be that exciting but that's the thing who's invested in it Indiana fans they're there that's theoretical

it's almost it's almost like you would have to atone for giving money to a terrible person like Bobby Knight for all those years that's what did it yeah

I hope they hear I hope they hear that I hope, like, the three Indiana fans, like, how dare you say anything bad about Bobby Knight? Even they won't, though. They'll be like, no, we fired him. He's terrible. Yeah, the younger Indian fans definitely do not like Bobby Night. Is Purdue, Illinois, a traveling trophy game?

I don't think so. Okay, it should be now, and what Purdue should do is bring their sinkhole from their stadium. And that's the new Purdue, Illinois traveling trophy. The Earth, this is the battle for the gaping mall of Earth. Oh, their trophy is a canon. Oh, okay. Well. I doubt it works.

But yeah, for anyone who hasn't seen this, as always, we tell no lies on this program, there is a sinkhole at Purdue's football field as of like a day ago. Their sports turf account is tweeting out pictures of patching up this hole. Purdue's football field is sinking into the earth. The canon, I imagine, doesn't shoot, but if you run into it, you might get tennis. Um, all right, we got, we got, we got, we got, I really, I really can't believe they have a trophy. We got to go rapid fire here, because I'm getting kicked out of the booth here, so, uh, uh, Bama Arkansas. Bama is just going to squat Arkansas for four hours, which starts to get tiring,

but it'll be a great workout. Sure. Yeah, sure. That'll be, again, 14-7. Just call it. That's, that's, that's where it's right there. Later on, later on, later on that night, Georgia at South Carolina. If you want to watch the, uh, if you want to watch Miss, Miss Sabin's, gifted children graduates, right? Ma's Savens, sweet boys. Maw Saving's sweet boys. Fighting for dad's affection. This is, Georgia, I mean, this feels like the game

where Georgia takes out all of their pent-up aggression out on South Carolina, right? Nope, nope, it's going to be 13-10. 13-10. We need to pence it up a little bit longer. Oh, Jesus. How much question do you have? Miami hosts Florida State.

Who! And I don't even know who's got more pent-tossed. progression at this point because Miami long term but FSU over the last month or so yeah I'm I have Miami in this game because I just I haven't seen Miami really break a sweat yet I feel like Miami fans are so excited for this game given the current state of both teams that they might successfully convince the Sebastian the mascot to load a T-shirt cannon full of cocaine baggies mm-hmm I mean and fire it into the Miami side yes yes yeah um Washington out Oregon man this is this is this is when the street breaks because I don't

organs organs on fire this is bad it's got real bad potential real bad I mean five and seven five and seven totally realistic for this Oregon team yeah Washington is uh yeah the the streak won't just end it'll it'll it'll it'll it'll it'll fucking end rent is due y'all rent um and it addition to that uh the pack 12 been really fun like fact 12 after dark has been the inversion of everything you expect and that is fun for me at least to watch Washington state at Stanford is your 1030 kick Washington state coming fresh off of beating Oregon um at Stanford this is the game where you go man maybe Washington state will get them I don't no I think Stanford course corrects in a dramatic fashion um and UCLA at Arizona state yeah sure sure it's a game

Did we miss anything of particular interest or perplexity? I don't think so. So here's what we're going to do. I'm going to hang up. You two are going to call each other, and you're going to answer some reader questions, and then you're going to send me that file. Or not. Or not.

Well, I quoted one because I had a feeling we wouldn't be answering too many. So we did technically address. Oh, my God. Ryan, are you doing the Mac Brown thing? You're leaving in the middle of the broadcast. Yeah, I got to. got to go catch a flight i gotta go bye sorry got a got a dental appointment the only way to shut up the doubters and the haters is when you shut them up lord they're your best friend won't autographs

some pictures i'm i've seen it before since ryan left us mac brown style in the middle of the broadcast because he's getting kicked out of the booth we're going to go ahead jason and i and answer some reader questions do you do you want to start anywhere in particular jason uh this is a good group of questions y'all did a good job this week um let's see let's see I mean really you can just pick one and flip it around anywhere and pick one um I'm gonna do this and I say that and then I somehow scroll past all the good ones I'm gonna go to an old classic here that would be at Andy Eddie Mac old friend of the program is the Purdue field sinkhole the most apt college football metaphor of all time nope that

would still be the barn burning down next to LSU Auburn that's still for what that matchup is something burns down no one really benefits and everyone kind of walks away scorched that's that's lSU auburn so you'll never get a more perfect college football metaphor in my opinion uh do you all think hurricane matthew has a shot at the acc title sure it's literally the acc coastal so therefore it is capable of doing anything with an eight and four record also really look forward to one of my favorite things during hurricane season and that would be the one team that decides not to cancel and ends up playing at six inches of water.

Usually this is Southern Miss for Gulf Hurricanes. Yes, that happened. Yeah, I'm kind of thinking that it might be, let's see, is ECU playing at home this week? ECU is playing at home. UCF is in the house. Is it at home? Either way, they're playing USF,

and this is the game that a local radio station has decided not to air in protest of B. members protesting. So this game already has sort of a, you know, we're just going to play it anyway, kind of vibe to it. Yeah. No, no, no. I'm all for this. As it, by the way, as it shows right now, the path for the hurricane is going up the Atlantic coast. So preferably we're hitting somebody in the Carolinas, right, who's playing somewhere in the Carolinas. And looking at the schedule, if you're looking at the schedule, Georgia at South Carolina, strong candidate here i know it's columbia's a little bit inland

but it would be it would be fine if they canceled that yes no they won't this is the best part is that this is will most chant magic is to get a seven three game out of a hurricane a seven three game where you say oh well if you're if you're if you're a sunshine blowing fan at these teams you say well yeah we were in a hurricane of course we scored only that many points and then uh i i like michigan rutger for Hurricane ability because Rettgers is going to say

who y'all we better cancel this thing huh we better just go ahead and not play this game nope nope and Jim Harbuss says what I don't understand what that means not playing a game yeah we're going to play no we'll play in lightning we'll play in a stadium made of lightning we we came here to play football game

why would we do anything but play football game can we play one tomorrow I have to play one on Saturday or Sunday or I have to turn the dial or the universe explodes like that's that's that thing where he stares at you like bird? I don't understand. The question I would like to get to, several people have this, we'll just start with DC Sports Fan 6 on Twitter. Is Maryland good? Thanks. We kind of discussed this already, but we don't know. We don't know. Maryland's better, and Maryland's more fun and more interesting,

which means Maryland has risen to the level of not interesting. Great. Let's get up to mildly interesting by the end of the year, and we'll call it a success, right? Totally in favor of sure uh from football enthusiast wicks underscore on underscore fire where is p j fleck rowing his boat to uh p j fleck of course being the coach i i would say putting himself in line after tom herman on the mid major hires list yeah with a been phenomenal at western michigan the dominant five and no not just not none of this bullshit five and oh this they are destroying people and destroying decent teams too um and recruiting circles around the rest of his conference I think that is the most important skill you look for to translate to a bigger conference because a lot of times it's oh well they win sure but you know maybe maybe they weren't actually bringing in more talent and you know he's going to be able to connect to kids anywhere so yeah I mean if Texas opens up LSU ain't getting Tom Herman and they like boats down there in LSU just saying you you can row it

or you can put a fan on the back of that thing and really put yourself in business. Yeah, and if your personal hashtag has already row of the boat and you just replace those with E-A-U-X, those O's? Man, that's a T-shirt. Yeah, this is where, by the way, we get PJ a P-Row.

Get PJ his P-Row. This is, of course, after Coach O gets the USC job. Yeah, the natural, the move they should have made all along. Cochow coming home to USC. At Dex Hinton asks a really interesting question. Is there any good reason people love Tennessee and hate Baylor this year? Yeah, cognitive dissonance. That's why.

Branding. Branding? Timing? News cycles. Yeah. Short memories. Sure, people not doing as much reporting. There we go.

Maybe the giant Title IX lawsuit, still wending its way through the system. Yeah, that's why. cognitive narrative digestibility perhaps cognitive dissonance all of these things adding up well

another question at David underscore JN1 who goes by the name of woke Ryan Lockty on Twitter there's a picture that shows a Youth for Trump event

that says watch Tommy Laren and Don Trump Jr. live from the University of Florida football game on October 8th via Facebook live what And the question is, is this the biggest L. Florida will take this year? And I'm like, I don't even know if they paid for this or did it anything official or given the Trump campaign. I don't know that these people are actually who they say they are. These can be two actors. So like they're going to be at the tailgate or something? I don't know. It might not even be them, right? Yeah. It might just be too imposter. So is this the biggest L. Florida will take this year? No, we already lost to Tennessee. So. Everything else is just kind of downhill from there. You can't hurt Florida.

Not even you, Donald Trump, son, who looks like a vampire. You can get Jim McElwain on camera being like, yeah, build that wall. Whatever. It's not like you can find a quarterback in Mexico either, Jim. Keep looking. Let's see. From Alex Rodden on Twitter, what facilities would fulfill Paul Johnson's a wildest fantasies at Georgia Tech.

As we all know, Paul Johnson, he is a care. Well, he is again complaining about the facility situation at Tech, as he did, I think, before the season, and he now has a new AD from Oregon. Georgia Tech's athletic department peers. They lost one to Purdue and gained one from Oregon

State. I don't know, you were a school with a national championship history in one of the most talented cities in the country, and I don't know, man. It feels like the athletic department exchange shouldn't include Purdue and Oregon State there? I'm sure these

are talented admins, but that's a little odd. But yeah, I mean, you think you'd think PJ would be finally just a shed. So therefore it'd be final about that. That was actually what I was going to suggest. It's like that Paul Johnson would just get it and go, well, we could use a bigger

shed. That's all. You want anything else? No. I don't need any. What, do you think I'm full of need? And emotions? I don't need anything. I don't care. So is he concerned that techs facilities are too opulent? Probably. It's probably like, yeah, you need to take the carpet out of here.

Carpet's hard to clean. Carpet's flammable. Yeah. I can't smoke in here. You don't even smoke, Paul Johnson. It's the principle of the thing. You don't know me. I've only been here for a decade.

I might have all kinds of hobbies you don't know about, like, making axes. No, we know about that one. We know. The question from at SWRT, right, Blan. That's a very long name, sir. Is Kirby Smart closer to Ray Golf or Jim Donnet? Well, yeah, I don't want to put anybody, no, I don't want to put anybody in the Ray Golf category at all, because that was a special, that was a special variety of

underwhelm. He's closer to Jim Donnan that he is, anyone else at this point. If you did not see in a Bruce Feldman column there was a little blind item stating that they were having trouble with Kirby's management style. I don't know what that means at this point other than he's a first year head coach he's trying to figure shit out and he's losing, right?

A lot of coaches, they'll come in and they get to win most of their games and figure these things out and nobody says much about their management style because you're still winning when you lose a couple of games and you lose them against rivals an ugly fashion, this tends to happen.

When people say, well, no, he's got a problem with his management style, as opposed to he's learning along the way. Yeah, and when you slap together coaching staff from a bunch of different backgrounds, they have coaches from, let's see, one, two, three, four, at least that I can think of different Power Five coaching staffs. So that's a lot of different styles all coming together. So, you know, I don't know, maybe there are things he's, I'm sure there are things he's struggling with his first time on the job.

And maybe there are just very different perspectives on how things should go. I'm sure Mama Saban's special boy is doing just fine and trying really hard. His large adult sons just populating the SEC. Populating. The other question I wanted to answer here was, am I going to, was from at R.G. Johnston. Am I going to feel any better about big dumb Will Must champ football if the Gamecox beat UGA on Saturday? Nope, nope, you won't feel bad. Nothing about it ever feels good.

Because, you know, you're never going to feel good about 10-7, ever. It's just not, it's not a secure lead. It's never going to make you feel safe. The bills might get paid. But at night, you'll still wonder, do we have enough to make it through the winter? And the answer is generally no. From Jerry Lambden, Lambden, J. What's the most ridiculous way Tennessee can win or lose to A&M?

First of all, Tennessee can't lose, as we know. has cashed in a decade of bad karma and is spending it all at once on bullshit like fumble recovery victories and whatnot and coaxing Georgia into multiple penalties that set up a Hail Mary and winning in the most garbage way as possible so the to narrow the question down is the most ridiculous way Tennessee can win against A&M yeah and the most ridiculous way they could win besides the vaunted walk-off safety I would say the most ridiculous way they could win would be um can we go like something they don't do well oh late 80 yard run there yeah there wow wow yeah either that that and we mix in like there's a blatantly missed penalty because

a and m lost to auburn at home a couple years ago despite johnny mansell's head being tore off um so you got to mix in a little bit of that just so there's local angst and reason for like every single fan base to really really really hate the balls At Johnny Johnny Diaz asks, in honor of Hurricane Matthew and Miami, FSU, what is the best extreme weather rivalry game combo? Hmm. It's not a rivalry game, but there was the Poulon Wheat-Eater Bowl between Mississippi State, the 2000 Independence Bowl, aka the Snow Bowl.

They're technically rivals now in the SEC West, but at the time we're in separate conference. It says, pardon me, Mississippi State versus Texas A&M. They end up playing a 43-41 game in snow, driving snow in Shreveport, Louisiana. And then years later, when they became division rivals, Mississippi State commemorated the game by wearing all white. Like, oh, look at this shared moment of history we have together. And A&M associated itself with Mississippi State by just wearing all black. Just we're not going to acknowledge that we have. have a history with Mississippi State thanks we never we never play I don't know you we don't

know these people yeah and if you if you have never watched that game you should at least pull it up on YouTube just to watch uh yeah playing in a blizzard with all white uniforms in Louisiana it's it's magnificent it really is there was a pack 12 game like five or six years ago where the wind was coming in so hard that like the goalposts were swaying I feel like it was a Pacific Northwest game. Do you remember this? It might have been the Apple Cup. Might as well be.

Let's just say it was. The Apple Cup usually like, you know, third quarter, they're like, oh, contains frozen sleet. You know, like, I thought sleep was already frozen. Nope, this is special. Super frozen. It's special sleep. Yeah. That's another rivalry game where the weather can, the weather is usually five different things over the course of a game.

It's kind of a three-way match. It's Washington versus Wazoo versus weather. Failing that, if you can. can get a University of Montana game in the FCS playoffs when it starts and there's a driving snowstorm and yeah if you can get that and when they're like

at the mouth at the mouth of Hellgate Canyon there's nobody like wow Game of Thrones theme those Montana Montana State FCS playoff games maybe Edub as well those have the highest chance of shirtless fans

in snow that you'll see anywhere in the country because you know, we don't really get to see that many snow games. Our campus games in this sport end by late November, and even Big Ten home games very rarely get snow. But when you're playing in mid-December, up near Canada, you're going to get some snow, and the TV cameras are on. So these fans are going to want to show off how tough they are.

So, yeah, if Montana is playing a home-FCS playoff game, watch that. Additionally, let's see, at Hamilton Cook, We really haven't made fun of Iowa this podcast, so let's do that. What offers a more stable return than a Kirk Farrant's contract? No, no, no, not ROI. What's this finance a more stable return than a Kirk Farrant's contract? So it's got a top 4.5 million for the next decade after a decade of unrelenting steadiness?

Yeah, I was kind of thinking those Coke bottles that they used to sell to commemorate like Alabama victories, right? you could get like a commemorative bottle. That's it. It has about as much fizz and energy after 10 years, too, on the shelf. Am I right? Yeah. I would say that for stable returns on a Kirk Farrant's contract.

Which, the funniest part is, yeah, he's extended through what, 2006? Something like that, 24, 25, 26, and yeah.