Shutdown Fullcast - Shutdown Fullcast 4.50 - Bama's In Trouble!

Episode Date: November 7, 2016

Ohio State-Nebraska! Vandy-Auburn! Iowa-Penn State! TCU-Baylor! These are but a few of the games that we managed to not discuss this week, in part because Spencer's internet connection died before we could. (The other part: we're biased and hate your team.) What did we talk about instead? - How Alabama is sabotaging its own championship hopes - When we decided LSU was dead - Designing a fitting trophy for Michigan State-Rutgers - Why the Pac-12 gives Spencer maximum entertainment - Ryan's the one mad at Florida now apparently - Special guest Brian Floyd breaks down Arizona - The holiest path ahead for Hugh Freeze Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome. This is the shutdown forecast. We diving right into the action from the week that was in college football, wanted to, first of all, issue a disclaimer because for some of our listeners, this may be a bit traumatic. But we're going to talk about the SEC today, for one, the Big Ten fans. You can go off and do whatever it is you're going to do. Either enjoy us trashing the SEC. Oh, yeah, because more like ASEC for the week. Hi, Texas A&M. Hi, Alabama and LSU, treating us to yet another beautiful three-and-a-half-hour strangulation. Just a glorious day for the conference overall. You can either listen to that or go do what Big Ten fans do. I don't know what it is. Stair, concrete wall and, like, ponder mortality. Talk shit on Maryland message boards?

Yeah. I don't know. Cook food without spice in it. All the things you people enjoy doing. Either way. Cheese is definitely a spice. pepper jack the ultimate spice in life is hard work and humility but you know you can you can stay for that because we're going to do a little bit of that other things we're going to touch on here

we're going to introduce ourselves hey i'm spencer hall founder of every day should be saturday it's my fault and uh work for sb nation joining me ryan nanny from beautiful brooklyn new york oh hi oh hi great to see you. Yeah, it's good to... In ear form. Good to ear you. Good to hear. Good to listen. Good to listen. And joining us

from beautiful Kennesaw, Georgia at Jason Kirk. Oh, hi, Jason. Are you outside? Oh, hey, what's happening? It is lovely to hear sounds from both of you as well. And yes, uh, yes, I'm outside. There are leaves everywhere. There are dogs barking. Someone is operating a machine not too far

away. It's pretty loud. what do you think it is it sounded like a leaf blower um which would make a lot of sense because there are a lot of leaves in accordance in accordance with georgia this is a great podcast in accordance with georgia statute 10.14-3a that at all times one must be within earshot of someone with a leaf blower at all times yeah this is the work from home thing if you work from home if you open your window someone will be mowing their yard three feet away from your window, no matter the time of day. Do you know how hard I...

You know how hard I would laugh if, like, in Migo's next video, there's just a dude walking through the background of every shot with a leaf blower. Yeah, I mean, I think they have to shoo that guy away. Because he's there. No, he's there. Like, he's all in the mix. I just think they should start including him, right? Like, just like, bouncing up and down slowly to the beat with a leaf blower.

I didn't actually... I didn't get a chance to watch Atlanta, and I know that makes me a bad. bad person but terrible was that was that a prominent feature of that show or was that did they miss the mark it might be the might be the only note they missed yeah there was there was there wasn't

enough time for yard work it's a short it's a short program yes 20 it's 22 minutes at one point though they really should have somebody wandering through the background I also I also do want to discuss by the way we are going to discuss the big 10 because I would like to reiterate repeat

and reinforce the concept that Iowa nailed down Kirk Farrants, the highly coveted Kirk Farrants, mentioned for jobs such as the Brerger State and the

college. The University of Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah. Sure, the NFL teams like the HALRR nailed him down until like 2026 for more money than

I don't know, God. Anyway, they lost real bad to Penn State. Oh, my goodness. Just a trashifying at the hands of Penn State. So we want to talk a little bit about that. But first up, I would like to propose that we discuss LSU, Alabama, and a national crisis, impending national crisis that all of us are going to face if Alabama does not lose a game prior to the end of the regular season and the SEC championship.

Jason, would you propose this, please? Well, as we all know, for Alabama to win a national championship, which would be its 39th national championship of this millennium, it has to lose a game before reaching the playoff. Once it does that, it has now fulfilled its obligation and can then go on to win a title with a clear conscience because it's demonstrated great humility and has learned its lesson from its loss.

It's sort of like eating broccoli, guess and then it just gorges on the sweet dessert of yet another title um but that hasn't happened and we're rapidly running out of chances and lSU was per probably the best chance before the playoff of that happening um iron ball is still ahead and uh Auburn has quarterback weirdness going on was Sean White didn't play for at least the first half and I'm fuzzy on the details after that John Franklin the third was out there didn't look excellent had some trouble with Vanderbilt then you got the SEC championship and no no sim quick sim sim through that don't even watch that so I mean we're basically down to only Auburn can assure that Alabama will win the national

title I disagree with that to go on I think there's a case to be made that so So let's say our playoff top four, as of now, because it's going to change, thanks, Texas A&M. Let's say Washington slides up into that fourth spot, and they're playing Alabama. Let's say Washington beats Alabama. I think – Sir, sir, hold on, hold on, let me finish. I think there's a case to be made that if you look at the body of work, you look at who they played over the course of the season, you look at, like, you know, who wins nine times out of ten, you still advance Alabama to the national championship.

game interesting so you so yeah you give bama the um the get out of jail free card why are we why are we bothering to play a 12 12 uh 12 uh game regular season and a conference championship if we're just going to have a semi final to throw it all off you know what it's just it's just random chance at that point so i think yeah i thought they said every game mattered so i think that's bcs and playoffs so i think undefeated alabama can absolutely lose to washington and justifiably advance the national championship game. That'd be a quality loss too. I mean, what?

Every mountain's got multiple paths up it, right? I mean, look, look, let's be honest. Who's Washington played this season? Nobody. All they've had time to do is scout Alabama, plan for Alabama, keep their best plays back, keep their players healthy. Alabama's had to play a brutal schedule. Like, let's just be fair here, all right?

Maybe if Washington can beat Alabama by four touchdowns, then the Huskies advance to play in the championship. But, you know. Let's do it. Let's make it a two out of three in that case. Oh, okay. That's fine. We'll just stretch this season out to March, if that's what it takes together.

We decide on away goals, yeah. Also, you know, if they do face Washington, and Washington beats them, it's going to be playing deeply un-Christian football trick plays. For instance, you know, the quarterback working out of the shotgun, multiple formations. All of these things are deeply antithetical to what we want football to be. Sometimes they might even hurry up, and who wants to do that? I did enjoy this, by the way, that Alabama attempted to quick snap and hurry up and got hammered at the one against LSU, by the way.

You'll notice that they were like, no, hurry up. Look, Alabama's running to hurry up. Wham! Can I ask you both a question? At what point during, I'm assuming you both watched all or most of this game. at what point did you say oh no LSU doesn't have the range about third offensive series you're like yep seen enough you're not getting a point on the board

Jonathan Allen and and everyone else in that Alabama defense and Minka Fitzpatrick you could just set an egg timer man he's got his own little internal interception egg timer Mika Fitzpatrick's just got to get one mine came slightly earlier than that It was on LSU's second possession, where on 3rd and 6, Danny Etling finds DJ Chark for a 41-yard completion. That maybe had a little bit of OPI, but whatever. They get down to Alabama 43, and then they have three straight plays for a loss of yards.

They end up punting from their own 49. Yeah, you're done. Because, like, if you can't get the one big play, against Alabama that sort of catches them off guard and you sort of roll that momentum into one good drive and then that sort of built like you're done so that that was and you know what I wasn't wrong because if you take those 41 yards away Danny Hetling finished with 51 other yards yeah yeah they did they didn't how's this if it bowling you just want to break a hundred right yeah

Danny Etling in football or bowling he didn't get above what I like to call the novice line he did not get above 100 time to play you know what you should get to play with bumpers when you play out yeah they got to put bumpers on the sideline

I know I just like watching that too another point where I thought oh yeah LSU doesn't have the rain or when you realize okay Bama Bama cares about this game Duran Payne Play goes to the sideline, Duran Payne, standing in the middle

of the entire LSU sideline, ready to go. Like, everybody starts barking, woofing, and pushing a little bit, Duran Payne doesn't move. And, you know, I think tone setting is overestimated. I don't think it is with Duran Payne sending their willing to fight the entire LSU

sideline. Even if it's for only five seconds of bluffing, you can look and see that there's a couple of LSU players. They're like, no, no, you can, You can stand here as long as you like. You can also note that like seven of his teammates didn't come crashing in.

No, he's got it. Go make it out of there. That would be unnecessary. Yeah. I'll stand here and serve energy for the next play. Oh my God, it's Jason Bourne. Yeah, like it was

he's got this. And not even like first movie Skinny Jason Bourne. Like, oh, Jason Bourne got lats. Yeah, this is when Jason board. Remember, as he gets better and recovers, he recovers his memory,

which is stored in lat form. Right? It's some sort of advanced government agent thing where all your information gets stored in hard drives that look exactly like powerful lats. I will say, it is, I don't think it's possible that LSU's defense could have played better.

No, they did, I love what they did to all of the inverted beer, backfield mesh stuff that they did. They did exactly what you're supposed to do against Jalen Hertz. They put the game on Jalen Hertz and when you don't score a single point on offense guess what Jalen Hertz bar is Jalen Hertz needs to scramble twice and he needs to get a touchdown on one and that's what happened hey math sucks when you

yeah LSU's defense you gave up basically two plays I mean you gave up one long pass sure and then you gave up the two Hertz runs otherwise you played a perfect game and you lost you gave I mean I mean, shit, you gave your offense the ball. Both Alabama turnovers came in Alabama territory. Did they not? Yeah. Ended up there, I believe.

Ended up there, please. And LSU did not get any points off of those. LSU had three drives that started in Bama territory. They got a total of negative three yards. Yep. And I blame a big 10. I blame Purdue. I blame Jim Delaney.

Yeah, that's, that's, this, sent down a faulty quarterback. I got, I got the warranty here. Trying to, trying to take down the, down the tide by, um, giving them a non-quality loss, you know, as the other team would have a big 10 quarterback. Didn't work, Delaney. It's a pro-Michigan conspiracy. Yeah, it seems to be, although I would point out that it seems to be disabling the Florida football program pretty well.

So we're fine on that. I don't, listen, I don't, I don't think that was, you don't think that, you don't think that, you don't that an Alabama sleeper agent and a backup Purdue sleeper agent as our one and two at quarterback is all part of a conspiracy? Well, I just, I just, I just think it's like, the scales have not fallen from your eyes. I just think, we've been duped badly. I think it's like somebody at the Koresh compound suing a fire extinguisher company. This wasn't charged properly.

You know what? I'm going to file that legislation. That's where I'm at. Okay. If you didn't see, Florida lost badly to Arkansas. So badly. This is the first time in a long time that I've actively been pissed about a Florida game. Wow.

Yeah, because I don't know what I'm supposed to like. You know, you're pissed. This is the first time I've just been resigned. Wow. Did we freaking Friday? Wow. Oh, my God. You get to go to the office and I have to go to high school.

Shit. I have to raise your two children. Good luck. And Spencer, you have to move to New York. the cool thing is Ryan and I don't have to like worry about pants not fitting and the the real losers here are wives oh as always as always that part of the story doesn't change just taking a different kind of hell yeah Florida took a massive one and I don't know like seriously I don't know why any of this is happening I don't see any reason to be optimistic

about the shape of the program I don't see much of a difference between what we had and what we have now. That's really painful to say, but that's where we're at for some ways. Well, I mean, it seems like, well, MushChamp can recruit quarterbacks now, so what's the problem? Oh, he's not at Florida anymore. Listen, listen, listen, you know he's going to end up at NC State. Yeah. All good things do.

It's all Muston quarterbacks, too. And at first, I had rationalized this as, well, this is all part of the great plan. in which Kentucky makes the SEC championship game and then they had to go and fuck it up yeah there we go this is what you get when you put your money on Kentucky you flush it down

you flush it down the toilet of the way to do one thing that matters this season Georgia have patience because Kentucky's still in this you all still gotta go you all still got to go play a four three game at LSU I know and then we get to watch a

Kentucky Tennessee game that has stakes. That's never happened. Wow. Yeah. The SEC East is super fucked up. Yeah, in case you want to know the worst major division in college football, I'm going to dismiss all evidence in favor of emotion. The SEC East is a giant cash stuffed pile, a pin ya.

Oh, the evidence supports you. All of the evidence supports you as well. this is not some bold claim I don't want to I don't even want a counterpoint I'm just going to like all of them are all of them are completely emotionally void to me this is the only this is the worst comp

this is the worst division in college football and when and when Louisville beats Kentucky badly and Florida State beats Florida and Georgia Tech beats Georgia and Clemson crushes South Carolina don't come at us talking about oh what happened to your big bad we're telling you it's shit

yeah do you want me and do you want me by the way to go through this goes so deep so deep like this is where we're at and i can uncork this whole paragraph and will in order florida had an idiot and otherwise gifted ad who had one major like sort of like crippling handicapped and that was on three out of four hires he just hired dudes who was like i don't know i he used to coach for somebody good although only other one was urban mire okay so management puts A relatively mediocre coach three times out of four in charge of Florida, okay? A place that should be able to recruit whatever it wants. And yet does not. And is somehow losing an in-state recruiting to a grown man with hair plugs named Jimbo. That's where we're at.

Fast forward to Kentucky. Did the same thing. Just hired a stoops. Hire a stoops. I don't know. Just grab one. All right? And actually, he's been decent enough in an absolutely mediocre, terrible division to somehow

still have a chance to survive Georgia. Georgia goes out and they do the same damn thing with I don't know, why don't you hire this guy I used to work for Nick Saban. That works because remember success is transmitted veneerially. That's how it works. It's infectious.

You just go and get somebody who was next to it, right? It's like just go get the chair that was next to the couch. I'm sure it'll match the living room no matter what's in it. And they went and got that because they had one guy they were looking at. One guy. Is this one I mentioned chair? Is this when I mentioned Jeremy Foley

didn't know who Justin Fuente was and consider Josh McDaniel for the position? No, we can keep going. There's more of that in the SEC East. There's whatever Missouri is. Do you want to know how bad Missouri is? Missouri's coach, Barry Odom, had to be comforted at the postgame handshake

by who? Will Mustchamp, who told him to keep his chin up. Will Must champ is in a position in the SEC East to legitimately tell somebody buck up, it gets better. Okay, but I can come over the top of all of this. There's one team in the SEC East that I think actually has shown consistent signs of improvement

and I think is moving in the right direction, even though the record might not show it. And that's fucking Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt, four and five on the year, one in four in conference. They lost, I'm going to count them off here. One, two, three, four losses. All four conference losses have come by one score. And yeah, you know, there's the South Carolina loss early where they lost on some mega long field goal and sort of blew a game they should have won. They played their usual crap fuss against Florida where they threw a pick when they could have driven to tie that game.

Lost to Kentucky and hung with Auburn. Oh, and they also beat Georgia. This is the board. They beat Georgia. They beat Georgia. that Vanderbilt beat Georgia, also in a one-score game. But, like, is Derek Mason the most, the most, like, progress-achieving coach in the SEC East right now? Derek, Mason and Mark Stoops, two greatest coaches in the country.

Boy, boy. Yeah, that's where you're at. We have to talk about anything else. Yeah, it's bad. What we're going to do is we're just going to slide. we're going to slide the stone over this tomb here we're going to put up the biohazard tape we're going to just put the sarcophagus over this magical

Chernobyl of a division and we're going to talk about something really inspiring Iowa football no we're not going to talk about yeah whoa that took a dark turn that got too real yeah I wanted to talk very briefly about Texas A&M if we can't because Texas A&M celebrated their

four spot in the playoff rank admittedly not their fault that's just where the committee came out they didn't put themselves there that's true no you can't i mean come on so wait are you suggesting that texas an m lost the mississippi state out of some intense sense of honor oh no no this is just what texas an m does okay okay recall of course this is the team that we picked to go six and oh and finish seven and five and they're seven and two now come on three more keep it guys Yeah, by the way, what else happened in this game? Loss are starting quarterback for a bit.

So we're really on schedule here. That was, this is what happens when you go into the SEC West. Florida was not alone. Okay, because SEC West Road game in division for A&M, eight up for Texas A&M. They celebrate that four spot by immediately dropping a game 3528 to a four and five Mississippi state team that, yes, yes, we're going to follow the chain.

to South Alabama. So many of you have transitive losses to South Alabama now. Well, in South Alabama, it started out like, hey, Sunbelt contender. Actually, South Alabama's not very good.

No, they're only good outside. They're only good outside of the Sunbelt. They have beaten Mississippi State and they are the only thing that is keeping San Diego State out of the rankings right now.

Yep. But A&M, I don't think this reflects poorly on the SEC because remember, this is a big 12, team. Remember anything in the conference, you can flip its, a toggle its identity back and forth as at will.

Missou is also a big 12 team. And once the Big 12 was effectively out of the playoff, Texas A&M had that hardwired into them. It's like Robocop. Yeah. Just just the Revely shaking its head side to side with the Robocop fight the rod. No, no,

no. I remember everything. Yeah. This was This was pretty dismal for A&M, although, hey, it's great for Klanga, man. They got run the hell. Oh, Dan Mullen absolutely needed this, but A&M, you got run the hell over. Yeah, it was, it was not pretty. Nick Fitzgerald, Nick Fitzgerald at one point turned into a steamroller.

Like, did the full Transformers sound effect included steamroller run? Nick Fitzgerald ball the hell out 182 rushing yards for the quarterback Nick Fitzgerald is out here looking like a slightly slower version of Lamar Jackson against your defense A&M Oof can I I have a little special surprise here If we can change topics real quick We got Brian Floyd special guest front of the podcast on this week

Floyd if you will Would you mind just listing the most impressive things Arizona did in the 62 point loss to the cooks. Again, Brian Floyd, managing editor, SB Nation, really appreciate you joining us today, Brian. That's insightful. I disagree with the order, but can't object to any of the actual items. Yeah, he's going to be real good on broadcast one day. We'll get him there.

Arizona is so bad. Dude, I've enjoyed, this is, can I just, a general observation? I enjoy the Pact 12 more than any conference. Okay. I enjoy it. Why? Because it is an absolute mess for the most part. Like year in and year out.

And that's fine. You mean generally not specific to 2016? I've enjoyed 2016 a lot. Maybe it's this. I sit and I watch my own team struggle. I watch the Big 12 go through whatever existential crisis it happens to be going through right now. I watch the Big 10, which the big 10, which the big 10 aside from two or three top like two or three maybe four solid teams

it's it's pretty dismal oh i just like that they gave tracy clay's a job like yeah i watch him coach football and i'm like i think many people could do this job just a 10 west co leader yeah he seven and seven and two he might coach in a conference championship game yeah watch him watch him coach the last two minutes of any game and you're like how hard can this be oh boy You also get to watch Rutgers get closer and closer to that first win. Closer and closer to 20 points. That first Big Ten win. And you get to watch Michigan State somehow get further and further from that first Big Ten win.

Wow. That's, yeah, man. This is Michigan State, the submarine will not be rescued. Oh, but you know, you know which two teams square off next weekend. Oh, that'd be Michigan State and Rutgers something. I got to put a trophy on this one. Yeah. I'm sorry.

You got to make this trophy game now. Sorry, you're stuck with a Rutgers rivalry. The petrified donut goes to Rutgers. No, this one, do you know what this is? This is the touching the void game. And the trophy is a carabiner with a cut piece of rope through it, right? Because someone's making it off this mountain and someone isn't, right? The old oaken abandonment.

the broken the broken carabiner yeah i think i think dantonio's going to end up on the wrong end of the road you know if we just get the old sighawk trophy we can turn that into a donner party thing pretty quickly pretty quickly except i don't know if anybody wants to eat anything that comes out of this partnership i like that you offer that as the trophy for this game and that well what does that have to do with he slanting in new jersey oh a lot a lot sir a lot yeah that's it so you watch all of that and it's it so you watch all of that and it It's kind of depressing this year in some.

And then you get to the Pact 12, where, like, the points don't matter. Wait, hold on. How are you going to leave the ACC out? Oh, we can leave the ACC out. The BCS in the playoff have been doing it for years. Wow. The ACC is our most fine conference. Fine.

The SEC and the Big Ten, you got a few good teams, you got a bunch of trash teams, and you got scalding opinions about all of them. Big 12, you got a bunch of garbage. pack 12 you got sort of the video game thing where you just click like um you know you said it so you have even rosters like if you want to play uLM versus uh ohio state you can just push the button and both teams are rated equally that's every team in the pack 12 except Washington and Arizona and then the acc what is there to say every team trashed pretty hard some are really good um there aren't really that many bad ones you know what i'll say this the acc it's the best managed conference right now

And you're like, okay, well, who's actually managed the stuff best? You're like, the ACC, like, go coach by coach. Look at their quarterbacks. And you're like, no, no, you guys are doing pretty well. Man, like the-W-FaW is the ACC's worst team. It's still probably UVA or maybe Boston College.

It's Boston College right now. And Boston College still has a chance at a bowl. Yeah, Boston College won a conference game this year. The ACC is A-O-K. Yeah, but going back to it, Pact 12, by far the most entertaining. Probably because I watch it mostly at night, after everything else has disappointed me. And I have no stakes. So I can just watch, wow, here's Utah.

Let's just see what they do. I never know what Utah is going to do except try real hard. And look, they're playing cow. I know what Cal is going to do. Whatever they're going to do, it's going to take five hours. hours like that's fine i feel like the pack 12 is designed not for like mass attention but for boutique attention like it's easy to watch an entire pack 12 game not a lot of people are going to do it you know i mean like as you see in big 10 yeah millions of people are watching but

they're probably also watching like eight other games pack 12 you got 900 people watching every play and that there's some value to that man you can you can you can sell those you know to advertisers we have completely captured our tiny markets attention do you want to watch jim more live out groundhog day oh boy great that's what ucla is for because oh my god they're so bad oh ucLA's real bad real bad no matter what they try no matter this is this is an example UCLA is the worst team i watched all weekend i watched the whole UCLA game fucking why because it was on late it was the only thing on yeah and you know what in colorado call who who could not root for the scrappy

hardworking and yes seven and two Colorado Buffalo who doing real well despite the fact that if you look in the stands there's still not nobody they're really not they're just out foraging they're coming back no their crowd looked great

I don't know what y'all are talking about their crowd's up there doing the Icelandic clapping chant thing yeah I'm sure they I'm sure they felt real good too yeah they all seem to be in really good mood in great ecstatic mood I mean by a pack 12 standards they were rabid

which is to say they were cheering cow crowd is the best because I always assume they're attending a little sarcastically even when they're even when they're doing real well they're like yeah cow football go guys sports

like yeah they're the people who tweet like oh I'm excited about the sports ball game what time is the sports ball I want everyone to know I don't like sports yeah they're all there they're all crowded around the 50 that's how you know if they show like a crowd shop for cow

they're all around the 50 because they're yeah whatever come on down doesn't matter nobody's in these seats but yeah the other one I will say this Washington State also ridiculously fun to watch this year they beat Arizona 69 to 7 as we already talked about

Stanford winning their by their standard bowl eligible bowl eligible then what a bowl it'll be it'll be Listen, trees, trees grow on farms. Foster farms, here comes Stam. It's practically a home game.

It's going to be weird to see trees next to cactuses in the cactus bowl, but. Speaking of a team that definitely, definitely is still technically bowl eligible. Remember how we decided that maybe Mark Helfert, you'd figured it all out? No. Turn it around. I don't recall that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was it because they beat fucking Arizona State?

Yeah, because Justin Herbert. They'd found Justin Herbert, and he was going to be amazing. Did you record a solo episode? Yeah, I just dropped it to mixtape. Sorry, all that mixtape. Spencer talking the ducks. Yeah, they had a new quarterback, and that's cool and good. USC has one too, so.

Yeah, he's real good, and he gets to hand the ball off to some real talented people, and then they have a defense that, unlike Oregon's exists. and, yeah, the USC hammered them. Do you know the last time? What was the HOPE differential yesterday? The HOPE differential was 100 plus. It was... Michigan put up 59.

Mm-hmm. Oregon lost. By 25. Yeah. So we're not quite at a hundred. Okay, so 56. It's over 100, that's for sure, man. Yeah, yeah.

So, yeah, there you go. Hope differential, well over 100. where SEC grads, we're not going to do you know the last time Oregon did not make a bowl game? Would that be like 06? Something like that? You're close. You're close. Go ahead. I was going to say, is it 2004? It is 2004. It is 2004, a year in which they lost to Indiana, Oklahoma, and then Arizona State and

three straight losses. But that was a team that collapsed down the stretch more than anything. This is not that team because there was no stretch. So let's give everybody the caveat M tour on sourcing here, okay? Because I think that. Gee, I know where you're going to go with this. I'm so tempted to kill the call. I think this is his first ever mention on this program.

At least I hope so. No, no, no, let's do it. I mean, this is it. we're about to talk branding we're so about to talk branding passionate branding um you'll read about a report that phil knight will spend up to uh 10 million dollars on a coach at organ okay which for the record that would make that coach the highest paid in college football by a lot highest paid in football right i don't know if there's a pro coach that makes i mean i think belichick and Sean Payton make right around that, but yeah.

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Sean Peyton? What? Does he? Is that true? He makes a lot of money. He makes a lot of money, yeah. He makes eight, no, he makes eight mill a year. Yeah. Oh, man. Wow. But remember, can you name

another coach who's taking the Saints to a Super Bowl? Listen, all of the Saints do is just keep kicking the salary cap down the down the hill till next year. That includes. Peyton makes 8 mil. Belichick makes 7.5 mil. Okay. Hold on, hold on. You know who makes 7?

Who? Jeff Fisher. Jeff Fisher. Chip makes 4.5, right? So you're going to double up chip, bring him home? I actually think that's Bill Belichick's way of stunting on somebody. Is that Peyton makes 8 mil and he doesn't go because he's like, you know what? I don't let other dirty people.

determine how much money I think is enough. That's it. He's like, can you give me less? Can you give me like six and a half mil? Does Bill Belichick know how much money he makes? Probably not. That would be my guess. Has he ever spent money?

Again, have you seen what he wears on the sidelines? No, I doubt he has. The scene in the Belichick documentary where he is attempting to set the clock in his car is everything you need to know about Bill Belichick because he's just muttering quietly. Well, we're in kind of a crabby. Hold, hold, hold, hold, clock and advance. And no, it's not doing it. Jesus, course.

Somebody get Linda on the phone. Linda usually handles this, but her damn kids have the flu. It is the most, like, I, I watch that entire documentary, and I love that man so much. I did, like, before that I was like, oh, Belichick, he's, like, just basically a cannibal. He's just some sort of NFL automaton. And then you watch it, and you're like, I would die for this cyborg. So Oregon just needs to throw him 10 mil. Yep.

Throw him 10 mil. See what happens. The scene where he and Jimmy Johnson are on a boat and Johnson cracks a beer like 9 a.m. And Belichick goes, that'll get the fish jumping. It's just, it's so good. Anyway, so here, I'm not going to even make fun of Darren Ravelle. Because Darren Vell says there's talk heating up in Oregon that Phil Knight's ready to throw insane $10 million a year money at a coach. He's 78 wants a title.

Okay, the 78 part, I guarantee you, Phil Knight does not think about it all. He's in that category of rich people who get their blood changed out every week. He probably thinks he's going to make it to like a hundred. Yeah, he'll die when he's bored. Yeah, he'll die when he's bored, okay? Which, that may be a threat to his life watching this Oregon team. Oregon's offenses. It might deprive the way.

world of Phil Knight. Yeah. Two, I actually don't think this is that far-fetched. Because if you know anyone around that program, they will say two things that are seemingly at odds with each other. One, Oregon

just doesn't do coaches like that. We don't get rid of people. We don't, you know, Phil's hands off. And then you will also hear this, man, Phil Knight's insane. He's going to fire Hellford tomorrow. Like, I can't get, for the people I know around that program, I can't get a consistent signal other than, no,

no, no, no, he's hands off, and there's no way he'll do that. And then this other camp of people, they're like, yeah, man, no, no, no, he's pissed. He's going to totally behead him. There are two Phil Knights, and they eternally duel for control of Oregon. Yeah, and I think it spends up. One's in charge. Just one of those weird things. I mean, why did South Carolina and Missou play football once a year?

Yeah, why did that happen at all? that didn't need to happen that's fair um yeah yeah organ's not making a bowl who would they have to beat just just let's look at the schedule they have to beat all of these teams they have to beat stanford which they they can i'm not going to pretend that stanford's amazing right now then they have to win a road game at utah which right now i'm not liking that

and then and then they would have to win a rivalry road game against oregon state and i know what you're thinking it's Oregon state Oregon State has been a little feisty this year Oregon State's vastly improved Oregon State hung with Wazoo and hung with Stanford

they're not bad Oregon State is on my Oregon State and NC State are having sort of parallel years to me I strongly disagree with that mostly because I have yet to find a reason to watch an Oregon State game I it checks out

improvement okay right improvement and you're either getting destroyed or you're taking a far better team to the to the fourth quarter but it feels like nc state is much more frustrated with the fact that they can't close these games than oregon state is right now is that that's the fan that's the fan temperament kind of thing okay okay i mean nc state fans are noted for being message board people at all times you know yeah i i hear what you're saying but like you could have beat clemson and florida a state. Yeah, but man, you're, you're so close.

Like, Dave Doran is, he's so close. Maybe that's the Dave Doran story. You know, you know he's also, you know he's also the one who gave Boston College the conference one, right? Yeah, that part. So, it's so close, man. Okay. So close to so many things.

I didn't say to what, but they're so close. Okay. But yeah, that's, if you look at it, Oregon's not going to make a game and then you have to go, okay, well, who the hell? is Oregon going to hire. I have a real good guess. Throw it out there. A real good guess. I think it ends up being

PJ Fleck. Okay. Counterpoint. What if PJ Fleck doesn't want the Oregon job? Counterpoint. They're going to offer him like $6 million. They're going to offer him so much money. So the only obstacle,

like realistically, the only obstacle is PJFlex's kids. He has kids who live in, I believe, Indiana or around there And Illinois They live in Illinois So they live in Illinois That's an obstacle

To getting any movement But you know what Oregon will pay you six mill There's a lot of motivation To make things happen If they're going to pay you more money Than you will ever make anywhere else In the rest of your life

I mean he's currently making $820,000 this season Yes Which $820,000 is is much, much less than six dollars. So let's walk this back a little. If you're PJ Fleck and Oregon offered you four million, that's almost five times what you make now. So if, if, if Darren Revelle, God help him is right and Oregon is willing to spend $10 million, like who is the $10 million coach in this equation? Because it can't be PJ Fleck. You can't look your, I love PJ Fleck. I think

he's a fantastic coach. You cannot look your fan base in the eye and say, hey, we just made the Western Michigan jackass, the highest paid coach in the sport. Sure you can. Here's a gift of him dancing. See what I mean? So, like, who is, who is the 10 million? Because, oh, man, there's a name here.

I'm going to say it. And then I'm just going to walk away. James Franklin. That's, I mean, that's. that could work but yeah pj a fleck is allegedly real high on anyone's list there so if that's not that 10 million one the only other thing i think of that you get for a 10 million guys you get like retread right NFL retread yeah that's it god i mean i i i do there's there's got to be something to what ravel is saying i mean i'm i'm sure he's very very plugged in at nike um but the the actual that's the one thing

that makes me take it the 10 million that's what makes me take it seriously right yeah yeah yeah it's probably the only school that we would you know actually sort of trust his reporting on i i i mean maybe he knows people at russell and could tell us about georgia tech but can i i already regrets i already regret saying this um would he freeze take 10 million dollars to and and the freedom of getting out from whatever is going on an old miss if anything he would be blessed to consider such an opportunity and he would prayerfully consider it and talk it over with his wife and elders and then after sleeping on it he would get back to Oregon in the morning and say yes yeah instantly if somebody if somebody said you know what I've been so

fortunate to work with Ole Miss it's been real great but I'm getting the hell out y'all Oh, my God. You give Hugh Freese recruit money? Nike recruiting money? Oh, boy. A little walking around money. A little spending money, we'll call it. Well, I'm just thinking in terms of what kind of tithe would best fill the storehouse.

And if we take the traditional 10% tithe, that'd be a million dollars going straight to the Lord. And it just wouldn't be right to say, Lord, I don't think you deserve a million dollars. don't you agree you ought to take that $10 million you ought to invest it wisely in your own family and your community which is now Eugene Oregon and you ought to you ought to pass the savings along to the Lord and invest in in heaven by leaving Ole Miss that yellow oh looks a lot like a halo don't it it does ding