Shutdown Fullcast - Shutdown Fullcast 4.54 - You Can't Lose To Kansas

Episode Date: November 21, 2016

Though apparently you can lose to Iowa State, if you have really really really good hair. You can also lose to Boston College, but you have to be UConn, which, no, don't do that. You CAN'T lose to Central Michigan if you're Oklahoma State. They ran the numbers and it's mathematically impossible; please correct your flawed record book. Other topics! - Rutgers, and Paul Wulff proves it could be so much worse - Standing outside in the cold to prove you're tough - Colorado won't make the Playoff but dang that'd be awesome - An exploration of the madness that is the Apple Cup - Vanderbilt tuned up Ole Miss, in case you missed it - Tom Herman's airport habits - Notre Dame is 4-7, just FYI Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the shutdown fullcast. Coming around the home stretch here into Thanksgiving weekend. Because we cover the dumbest sport in the world, college football. What happens on this weekend, Ryan Nanny, joining us from beautiful Brooklyn, New York? What happens on this weekend? This weekend upcoming or the one previous two? No, no, no, no, no, this weekend upcoming. I just want to frame this for everybody.

Oh, oh, well. What a dumb sport we cover. Well, we get, I mean, we get the most important game of the year, Texas. Texas A.M. Actually, that's, that that game hasn't occurred for several years. No, that's, but why wouldn't it? Those are, two teams that, you know, have, have no love loss for one another. It's a tradition. Actually, and two, two prestigious powers with just delivering excellent seasons every year.

Sure. their fans are constantly jawing online. I don't why would they do that if they're not rivals Spencer? Right. This is when I hand the ball to Ryan anticipating that he's going to take several productive dribbles and progress us closer to the basket.

Oh, I'm sorry, was this a toss sweep on the goal line? Like it said like Stefan Marbury, ball's just going. It's just shooting deep threes. What I wanted you to say is that

we have rivalry weekend, which is cool. And also this, that what else is happening on rivalry weekend? Oh, Thanksgiving, a national holiday. Well, yeah. But, I mean, that's when we get to watch Texas, Texas, A&M, because, again, it's a cherished tradition. It's just that, you know, Texas isn't feeling well this year, so playing the role will be LSU. Oh, that's one way you're looking at it. And, you know, if you think of it as, you know, former national champion that can't quite get back to that level,

school that has recently fired its coach I mean the parallels are there Texas Texas A&M to LSU with as Texas proxy is like

dumping the we just need Harry Connick Jr. to play the McConaughey role for LSU it's closer than you think I mean ignore the culture look at the product yeah I was going to say it's a little closer than I think

but LSU is like Texas's sketchy brother If we're talking Institutionally I don't know if it's all that much Sketchier man I mean like the less Miles firing drama Listen Mac Brown did that shit

Mac Brown did that shit Right now currently Charlie Strong is unofficially fired But everyone knows he's fired This I mean man Texas has got some LSU in them You know who doesn't care about this Is Charlie Strong

No he does He does you saw the press conference Dude cares a lot I think it's easier to take if we tell ourselves he doesn't okay he's he knows I don't understand what this fake drama about well is he fired or not that y'all he's fired he knows he's been gone

for weeks weeks like the better part of a month I mean he was hanging in I don't know I yeah Tom Herman beat Louisville and he lost to we shouldn't we should not we should not really downplay how much of a nail in the coffin.

Kansas is not a nail in the coffin. Losing to Kansas is the whole coffin. Kansas is like the dirt on top of the coffin. It's the mausolee. It's like a custom mausoleum where you're like, damn, this is bigger than some people's apartment. This is nice, Kansas. Thank you.

I mean, we're going to talk at length about Charlie Strong and about Texas because I procedurally, I have no expectation for Texas to not fuck this. up because that's just what they've done for the past three years, four years. The good news is they don't have, they have a better situation at athletic director than they did when Charlie Strong came to Texas. Do they? I mean, they don't have Patterson anymore.

I know everyone hated Steve Patterson. And he was bad at his job. Yeah. But, and they might have a slightly better athletic director, but there are so many hands in the pie there and so much dick swinging that goes on at the University of Texas. That's the one thing I don't think is exaggerated. I think the good things about Texas are probably given too much credit. I think the bad things have probably played up too much. But do you know how many rich people care about what happens at the University of Texas Athletics Department?

Too many. One of them died. You know, last year, that took a big chunk out of the equation. and there's still too many people involved there. What if we move the Raiders to Austin? The Raiders don't want to stay in Oakland. And San Antonio's been thrown around, Las Vegas. Why not move to Austin?

Let's give rich people in the Austin area something else to gripe about and spend their money on. I like this. It's also a growing city. It's also, let's see, costume-friendly. I think a lot of people would be fine with that. Raiders fans would probably have to learn how to wear the white dress shirt with khakis, right? But with the body armor over it, right? Mm-hmm.

With the, like, battle armor. And Mark Davis already kind of has burn orange hair. This is all, this is, this is, this is all working. It's all falling in place. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Texas is being Texas. Just when you thought Texas has an easy decision in front of it, a coach, a struggling but popular coach finally did something that can't be forgiven with his record.

You know, if he was nine and two and he lost to Kansas, and it's, ah, well, that sucks. Don't do that again, you know, but there's no defense of, you can't keep him now. And Texas is still finding a way to make it weird. I would like to offer one silver lining for Charlie Strong. Because this sucks for him. And Charlie Strong generally, I think is a good coach. I, you know, hope he can succeed somewhere else. Do you know who 2017, Texas opens their season against at home?

Oh, who? I'm going to confirm this because I don't want to get it wrong. it's Maryland and all I'm going to say is this all I'm going to say is this it's better to get fired at the end of this season then hang on and maybe lose to Maryland to start 2017

well I think this just means the next coach really is walking into a dream situation like this rock it's a young talented roster and you get to play Maryland next year sure they also play USC on the road so well lane kiffin i have those boys ready to go

i would also point out a couple of really weird things about this because yeah you can get mad about how texas handling this obviously like i'm not going to care about that because i didn't have any expectations right and i don't charlie's probably already like agent lined up got the lawyer working right what's his buyout we got 10 mil uh something like that

That's, that's the, never mind, that's the silver lining. Tan Mill. I mean, it's cool. I mean, after taxes, what, that's only enough money to float you for the rest of your life, if you're careful. No state income tax, as Dion Sanders and Jerry Jones would tell you. Yeah, that's another thing. He got Texas residency. Consider the savings he might have already had.

People say, oh, I don't know, man. It's like four years of his life just flushed. down the drain. Uh-uh. Tax-saving, son. We've got to eat a lot of tacos. Can't spell Texas without taxes, which is ironic because they don't pay them. Got to wear a golden hat.

That was fun. Yeah. I mean, I want to put, I want to put this in as positive a light for Charlie as possible. Got an office that smells of more rich leather and mahogany than any office in college football. Got baby tigers to come to his office. He did. Maybe the most enduring picture of the Charlie Strong era. Then he got Baby Tiger.

Godfrey suggested that he bring him back for his last couple weeks since they're probably like three or four years old now. They're probably each 500 pounds. Oh, I'm sorry. You're here to move me out? Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. I'll be in my car. Did you meet Chippendale over here? Yeah, they're not Chipmunt.

That, what else positive happened with Charlie? If you were to look back and go, man, that's, that's, uh, he beat Notre Dame. He beat Notre Dame. Uh, Texas was back per Ascent's deleted. I think it's deleted ESPN tweet. Um, beating Notre Dame. Um, he, Notre Dame would be five and six without him.

For that, we can thank him because Notre Dame is four and seven. Um, beat Baylor twice. That's pretty good. He kind of found, I think, I mean, granted, he wasn't very, good against Kansas. But Shane Bichelle seems like he has promise as the quarterback of the future for Texas. Does he not? Yeah. I mean, the numbers have been great all year, except against Kansas, but, you know, he has, he has, he has the leading rusher in the country, Donata Foreman, who has 1863 yards, eight more than Danelle Pumfrey at San Diego State.

despite playing one game fewer the roster is pretty much loaded for next year and tom herman or whoever uh necessary caveat or whoever because sure texas could fuck this up is going to walk in with a top 10 team just face it let's just get used to it right now and then how much credit how much how much credit do we give to the new coach at that point i don't know no none man absolutely none i mean i i i've i've had my heart set on like you know you know charlie built this roster let's not give the new guy too much credit but charlie lost to kansas charlie lost to kansas every every every every every every defense of charlie both now and in the future is oh let's be clear i don't know how to make it now let's be clear

charlie strong earned this firing right oh dude he took he he there's no way around it since he he cracked out the checkbook at the registered by this l since the big since the big 12 was born, was birthed into this world as the grafted on Swack Big 8. Texas has had five seasons where they lost six games. Three of them were the entirety of the Charlie Strong era. Like the bar, I feel bad for Charlie Strong, but it's also important to know that the bar was not unreasonably high for this year. If he goes eight and four, he keeps this job, yes?

Yeah, I'm sure it felt like it. Okay. And, you know, toward the end, it felt like even seven and five might do it. Right. So it's hard. It is hard to feel all that bad or bury Texas for this all that much because asking Texas to win eight games in a year, in a year where they beat Notre Dame and their other. big non-conference opponent is cow

like in this big 12 if you're Texas and you can't win eight games in year three you fucked up I got I got I got nothing you fucked up it didn't work I got nothing this big 12 isn't it's not good look at the out of conference

record other than Texas beating Notre Dame which doesn't matter and let's see Oklahoma State beating pit in West Virginia like the big 12 was not good at oklahoma state beat central michigan yeah yeah as i don't know if mike guinea would like mike gunny would like you know that oklahs state beat beat central michigan they beat they won that game it's a w you are we got here we got we got central michreff truthers i got howards in on my back here i thought you said i thought you for a while i thought

you were you said howards end on your back and i was like what's up merchant ivory armor no man this is a people's history of still water and i say we beat central michigan why this is that's while i'm here this i think the entire front end of this podcast just turned into being super irked with the big 12 oh no the big 12 is the big 12 is fucking great man the big 12 has the decency to after you know west virginia gets effectively stomped in the snow by oklahoma Oklahoma and Oklahoma State the only last gasps for playoff participation for the conference

and they still manage to give us a ton of good shit to talk about it's wonderful I mean of all of this that Oklahoma State insists they did not lose a game to a MAC team which I mean if it were an actual other conference sure but you're trying to like get buybacks and rebates on

yeah we were one play away from beating central Michigan. That's the worst self-own I have never heard from a major program. I'm not owned online. I'm not owned. I'm not owned by the third-best directional Michigan this year. I think it's funny. Actually, I think it's funny.

I think we did beat the third-best directional Michigan. I'm going to post a shirtless picture of myself in front of Central Michigan. That's what I'm going to do. This is me with my mullet and my hot rod beating Central Michigan. Yeah, have you seen my wife? She's hot. Check out. I'm a man, I'm 47.

This news post on Facebook about me beating Central Michigan. There we go, Oklahoma State. We'll just circulate that for you. The popular vote score against Central Michigan. It is true. I saw it on Facebook. Please share. Please circulate.

Like, I like Oklahoma State. Don't make me do this to you, okay? Don't make me do this to you, Texas, because Texas should be pretty cool you got a cow you got lots of money you're exactly what i want texas football to be big arrogant moneyed right uh dysfunctional you got that too but then you have to go and do this and like dick charlie around when like charlie's clearly like yeah i know i'm out and everyone else is like yeah you're out and everyone's gonna get 10 million bucks to go away and that's cool but you know instead you're you know who's flying easy somehow cliff fucking kingsbury man i don't i don't i don't i

don't understand it, but lost to Iowa State 6610. Do you know how many yards per play, Texas Tech gives up to FBS schools this year? How many? Just throw out a guess. I want to see if you can get... We'll do it prices right, style. Closest without

going over. It gives up to FBS schools. Yards per play. All right, Jason's gone over. I'll tell you that. Okay. Are yards for play? I'll go seven and a half. It is seven and a half on the fucking nose. You win both showcases congratulations

that's a lot you don't need you don't need four downs to be to to move the ball against Texas Tech you don't even need three but like Cliff Kingsbury safe Cliff Kingsbury's fine

who can they get that's better really they're the worst defense in the country and the answer to this question is well who can you get this better well you know Tommy Cuberville might be available to come back home pretty soon. Well, yeah, I believe that the bearcats,

aka the Chick-Fleigh Binterongs, right? They're definitely not going to keep him whether he would want to come back to the place where I believe Tommy Tuberville's wife was involved in a fatal car accident. I mean, not her. I was going to say. This is not a death becomes her situation. In some way, she was involved in.

some sort of a situation that does call to mind what you've described. Yeah, I don't think, by the way, I don't think that was actually a usual or normal event because I don't think she was ever in town. They didn't, they didn't ever live there, really. Is this like the Matthew Broderick killed a person and people don't, a lot of people don't know that? Yeah. Do you two know the Matthew Broderick, killed a guy, or killed a woman?

I didn't know that. oh yeah like yeah in ireland in like the 80s after filming ferris bueller uh yeah and i think ended up uh with a hundred and seventy five dollar fine yeah and it kind of like like messed with his uh if you wonder like why why he didn't take off immediately after that it's it's because he went to ireland and killed a dude like messed up his brain for a while in terms of his psychology which is fair because psychologically he was damaged the other person was dead yeah so yeah Laura Bush too

I think Laura Bush don't we killed somebody that I listen I am not sticking up for that because I don't know if that's true or not and I don't need that

well we got a lawyer on the phone we can say whatever we don't care if you got any more just throw them on out all I'm saying is Matthew

Ryan'll get us out of this one Matthew Broderick's going to be great at Cincinnati yeah you gave up 66 points to Iowa State you can't give up 66 points to anybody

Iowa State Now we're talking work of art. Yeah. When's the last time Iowa State scored that much against a division one program? I believe they hadn't done. I think that was the most they had ever done the previous high. It was something like 64 and they'd done it like 1947 or something. Oh, Christ.

Yeah. So I think this is the most that they had ever scored against a fellow conference opponent. In addition-Nexis tech needs to just go stand in the fucking corner. I don't know why. Like, I mean, what, a month and a half ago, weren't we saying that, they should just go full Kevin Kelly and just avoid defense. Just get onside, don't punt, just completely change. Go for every, yeah.

That's what they get for listening to us. They really, but they didn't do that. They didn't do that. They got the defense part. No, they didn't even try the onside part. No half measures. Yeah. In addition to this, let's just go.

How does this happen? Because, you know, people say, oh, man, the Charlie Strong thing. That's just a replay Rich Rodriguez at Michigan point for point. there's a few other things that people continue to do over and over again that reek of desperation which two years ago Kirby Hokut that would be head of the playoff committee right now Kirby Hokut the guy who ran Mike Leach out of town

Kirby Hokut gave cleef Kingsbury a contract extension two years ago gave him the contract extension an enormous one early we just said Charlie strong who was the football coach for the flagship university of Texas and a public IV and one of the biggest, baddest universities in the United States, right? What was his buyout? You said it was 10?

10 million? Correct. It's 10. He's going to get 10. What is for Lubbock, Texas's own Cliff King's Berry, Texas Tech, out in the middle of nowhere, without the same enrollment and without University of Texas's gigantic, well-loged money machine,

What do you think Cliff Kingsbury's buyout is? I'm going to say six million. Jason? Put me down for eight. Oh man, you are both far, far too faithful to the notion that other humans know what they are doing. It is a buyout of nine million. That's based off a what a... Potten Bowl win at another school?

I'm sorry, $9.4 million on the contract. That's what's left. Johnny Mansell just making coaches rich to this day. I mean, you could call Tommy back, because guess what? At this point, he was 21 and 17 at Texas Tech. Kingsbury, he was 23 and 26, and he just lost 6610. to Iowa State. Oh my God, that's the saddest thing I've ever heard.

Yeah, it's, it's so, I mean, you know it's a weird weekend in the Big 12 when Baylor gets doubled up by Kansas State and we're just like, yeah, that's fine. No big deal. Small news. Yeah, yeah. We don't have time for this shit. Also, making things even better for the Big 12, the Houston, they passed on just took out another top 10.

Oh, yeah. Spencer, you want to. You might want to speak on that. Oh, on what you say? On your beloved city of Houston Cougars. Yeah. And what's going to happen now? And how badly they beat Louisville's ass since I was in the stands for that?

Who, boy. Properly the box. Which you should know, Houston does not allow you to open the windows. If you did not follow the saga, I wish to explain it to you very briefly. That in the Houston press box, the press box windows are, There are a number of ways you can do press box windows. Sometimes they're just old school, like open to the side, right? Like a door.

They just open. It's real easy. Probably the way they should do them all. There's no machinery involved. LSU, being LSU, they're flossy. They have this convertible thing, right? Where they hit a button and it goes, and you have a beautiful open-air press box. Then they close.

It's like some kind of Bayou Star Trek thing. The University of Houston, their press box, when they redid it a couple of years ago, they put hydro like those are they hydraulic the same the presses you see on like a the hinges you see on a door right like on a screen door when they

they shut right yeah all right so they have those but the way they calibrated them they made them far too strong for these windows okay because they're heavy and I guess they thought well we wanted we want them to hold up

so that when you opened them um they kind of fly out and the only way the only way to get them back in is by pulling a rope that's attached to the bottom of the frame yeah this is a home improvement project dad did and didn't really like follow all the instructions i think they the lawyers were like man you better make sure those don't fall and the engineers said hell no you damn right we're not going to make him. So a couple of years ago, allegedly, the story is that a radio guy

from Tulane said, oh, hell with y'all, I'm opening them. And he grabbed the rope and he opened the door, and the only thing that kept him from falling 30 feet to the seats below were his toes catching on the edge of the work desk for press row, right?

So they're very touchy about that. You're not supposed to open the windows. Anyway, a member of the press decided he was just going to open a damn window. And when he did, I got to watch grown men get like super huffy with, yeah, I'm going to open this window. No, don't open the window. I'm going to have a bunch of extremely thick Texas access being like,

no, I'll open the damn window. I'll do it if I won't. And that's, that's your metaphor for the Texas coaching search. Yeah, yeah, basically the same dudes just with more money. I'm going to open this Tom Herman. Yeah. Don't you do it. Don't you do it?

I got 20 million that says you won't Fat boy Fat boy I miss Joe Jamel so much No you're not No you ain't Just when we need Joe Jamail the most That's bullshit

I want I want undead Joe Jamil to have sway in this so badly Since it came up on Twitter That you know he'd come back from the grave To set this all right Just coming back That's bullshit no you won't You try it fat boy

I feel like I feel like this I would be in Mac Brown back What candidate could Texas pursue That would cause Joe Jamel To rise from his grave and say The hell you're not Brian Kelly

Who Mac Brown probably Who I love Mac But god damn it He had his stuff God damn I was going to go with Jim Mora

But all right Jim Mora Perpetual rumor guy Because boosters like him I'm going to go with the one person that I know everyone doesn't like when they meet him and when he interviews. That'd be Dan Mullen. They got Dan Mullen in the booth for this.

Joe Jemel would be like, God damn. That you ain't the son of a bitch came down here? Trying to tell us how to run this. Well, there's a new a word he says. It doesn't know shit. I put my name on that field. How much I got to pay to take a goddamn off it? You tell me.

That's what... We need you, Joe. We need you. We need you, Joe, so bad. But if I can tell you, watching that Houston Louisville game, Ed Oliver is the best defensive lineman in the nation. He's a freshman. And people will say, Louisville had a real bad night on the offensive line.

They did. They did. There was a reason they had a real bad night in the offensive line. No, it takes two to tango. It takes a partnership to make a baby that ugly. And the daddy in this case was Ed Oliver. If Louisville played Alabama, would you expect Lamar Jackson to be sacked 11 times? Oh, God.

No. If Louisville played the fucking Browns, you wouldn't expect that. Well, no. I mean, why did you step down? Okay, okay, okay. What's the, what's the, yeah, the Bamma Browns thing? That's kind of lost all. all all notions of that being an actual step up

but you know what I'm saying they sacks Lamar Jackson 11 times a goddamn mid-major did that my favorite thing about watching Houston right now is imagining Ed Oliver as a junior in 2018 playing against Tulsa and Tulane and Cincinnati and East Carolina that's his schedule he's going to put up 50 fucking sacks I mean the only thing stopping him from doing that is either a sense of self-preservation

of boredom. At one point he'll just say, man, I'm tired of, I'm just, my arms are tired of wrapping up Tulsa guys. Hold on, I'm going to, I'm going to tape my arms down and see if I can sack you with just my body, like a giant bowling pin being thrown. Like, hey, coach,

actually, I play tight-in now. So, just throw me the ball. Okay, yes, sir, yes, sir. Yeah, I've never and the thing with a defensive alignment who's that disruptive is that all of those sacks, you look at them, and it's not just the ones he's credited with that he had a hand in.

There were so many of them where he was double or triple-teamed or where they shifted coverage away from them and Louisville's offensive line was so shook they couldn't even defend one-on-one or they blew simple assignments. And it's not like tackling Lamar Jackson's easy. That's the other thing. No. I mean, sacking goddamn anybody 11 times is crazy. Lamar Jackson?

And he was tipping passes. He was, you know, and even when he was out hurt at that point, the Louisville line was so dilapidated that, you know, the rest of his talented line mates were still, you know, were carrying on the tradition. Everything, Houston, as Bud Elliott pointed this out, Houston did one of the most annoying and brilliant things I've ever seen, which was to run the hurry up, slow down. They would hurry up to the line to prevent Todd Grantham's defense from substituting and then let clock run. Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go. hold on easy easy easy there we got to the we got to the gate a little early boys why don't we just relax and charge our phones why did you head over to the hudson news and get you a starburst

and you know like Houston gets to the airport two hours early that's their office they did they just sprinted to the airport two hours early and then they're like hey boys there's a synobon let's let's do some work it's the hurry up dad attack it is it was the hurry of dad attack and it was so effective because I don't have many coaches who you go man I think he's dumb like I think he's just aggressively dumb and you can watch him get played

on a regular basis Todd Grantham's dumb this is the thing you've said that Georgia fans agree with the most on this podcast I think Louisville fans are starting to come around too seems like the Tidans open

someone's open across the middle. I will not change. I am resolute. This defense is perfect. It feels like he's the coach. And it's somebody, I think in actual, it might have been Mark Ennis. It might have not.

Please don't blame me, Mark, if it wasn't you. But it feels like Louisville fans have this notion that he angry blitzes. Like he does the frustrated teenager playing Madden thing. Like, it's not working with blitz. Put block.

Put block. It's, Second down, put block. It got blitz. I mean, it was like clockwork. I had a Louisville reporter two chairs down. He said, oh, here it comes.

Hey, gap blitz! Open across the middle. Hey, got blitz, run away from it. Hey, got blitz. Sly protection, get the running back to block. Put Greg Ward out on the edge. Oh, look, you got, man. Yeah, like, that was it.

And I'm watching it, and I was like, oh, this is not fair. It is not. because on one side of the ball, Louisville was outmaned physically. There was a presence of the defensive line that they could not scheme around, block, or ameliorate. And then offensively, all they had to do was bait Todd Grantham into charging. That was it. Here you go.

Look, it's a red flag. How many athletic directors do you see, do you think, saw that final score and we're like, oh, thank God, I don't have to pretend like I'm going to. get trying to hire bobby petrino or tom herman how many of them don't want to shell up tom herman right like they saw that they're like texas just blew us out of the water of that boys do rich for my blood i'm out exactly i fold i fold i think everybody was relieved on that you know especially louisville because guess what petrino can't bolt petrino back patrino yeah well you obviously you know we haven't gotten the team where we wanted to be yet exactly where we wanted to be i think yeah

Louisville is at its perfect cruising altitude where it can't lose Bobby Petrino. I mean, unless he takes a Texas job. We would never put anything past him. You know, Texas is just sitting right there. And then you know what I want to see. Like if Texas, all right, fantasy world, Texas hires Bobby Petrino, Todd Grantham comes with him. Guess who Todd Grantham has to scheme against? Bill Snyder.

Oh, God. that's funny why do you why do you keep hitting yourself young man so much anger in you so much anger i like this is what is a 75 77 year old bill schneider oh yeah yeah 78 year old bill schneider running rings around you thought grantham i can't wait to see it and by the way if i if i call todd grantham a dumb ass that's exactly what mark rick called him on film mark rick this is true after your Todd Gratham got into a heated fight with James Franklin, which sure, James Franklin, intense dude, but... Hey, this is a very seamless transition.

Y'all want to talk about how Vanderbilt beat Old Miss by three touchdowns? You know, I still don't understand how that happened. I didn't watch the second of it. Do you know the last SAC team that Vanderbilt beat by three scores? Oh, who? Florida in 2013. Wow. Oh, yeah, that game.

That game. That'd be a Will Must Champ special. But no, no, no, it's okay. Will Must Champ's got it figured out now. So that's fine. Yeah, I don't really, I watched this game. I did. And I could not tell you how this happened.

other than this Kyle Shermer was really efficient Ralph Webb ran for 123 yards and they made some big catches crazy catches I have not seen Vanderbilt receivers get big third down catches like that

ever ever not even there was also a play where I think Hugh Freeze called a time out to ask for the play to be reviewed it was as my hazy recollection of what what initially happened was that

Vanderbilt I think was stopped on third down, but they thought that the player had fumbled and that they had recovered the fumble. Upon further review, they did rule it a fumble, but they also ruled that Ole Miss, the player who recovered the ball, was standing, had one foot out of bounds when he got the ball, so it was not going to be an Ole Miss ball. And because they reviewed this play, they found targeting against Old Miss. So it all went great. Yeah, it was amazing. It was also one of the weirdest fumbles I've seen

As if the ball just dropped dead It was like a 40 pound football It just felt As if he had as if the ball carrier Had just been hit right in his head Yeah as if And just dropped it like it was a 40 pound medicine ball So now

It just sat there So now we get to watch Hugh Freeze Play Mississippi State in the egg bowl And the loser will be at the bottom of the SEC West for the second time in what four years the egg bowl is for ball eligibility yeah that's that's phenomenal and yes mississippi state can make a ball at five and seven because their APR scores are good Mississippi the state of Mississippi has excellent academics don't look it up oh that's the other thing Vanderbilt by getting this win they effectively are going to be bowl eligible at even if they

don't beat Tennessee in the last game of the season and we can talk about whether or not that's going to happen because Tennessee is doing some interesting things on one side of the ball and the other side of the ball is just like nah you got this no we'll be over here yeah but even even if tennessee wins that game five and seven banderbilt going to a bowl game yeah i enjoy banderbilt fans truth bringing me on that when i was like oh man this is for a bowl game because that's exactly what derrick mason's gonna say jerry mason's not gonna terry mason's just gonna be you know what hey coach we're going to a bowl game no or not i did like um i i think it was during this game one of they were mentioning this very um

issue and whoever was doing color commentary was like yeah but you you know you don't want to get in as the five and seven team you want to do it the right way because you know sending your players on through school and getting degrees is the wrong way good to know that's a funny way to put it yeah yeah you want to get to shrieveport in Louisiana the right way for a game that players will be compensated with an extra $50 best buy gift certificate or whatever yeah you want to do that with the utmost integrity and pride i remembered something else that stood out i'm going to go way back to the kansas texas game uh so overtime starts they go to overtime the referee does his you know explanation coin flip but as he does

he says gentlemen great game so far and to kansas i'm sure that's exactly what they thought And to Texas, I'm sure they were like, are you fucking kidding me? We're going to overtime against Kansas. I would also like to point out something in a different realm that happened. It's a big moment. I hope we all appreciate it. After 14, I believe it is 14, might be 13, but after 14 scoreless quarters, the Cincinnati Barrackats put up a TD.

They might have lost They might have lost 34-7 of Memphis But they won the Battle of the Mind You know You know what American team did not put up a touchdown Oh who The Yukon Huskies Yeah

And how many did they give up to Boston College? They lost 30 to zero To Boston College Boston fucking college What the hell happened to you, Bob Diaco? This was a good weekend for really pretty coaches who are employed for unclear reasons

between Cliff Kingsbury and Bob Diaco and Todd Graham, I guess. Yeah, very attractive, man. Eight first downs. Two certain age group, Todd Graham is very attractive, sir. Yeah.

I'm sure. Can I give you my other fantastic stats in that game? Yukon, four turnovers. It wasn't like they weren't trying to do stuff, which is really sad. Four turnovers, eight first downs, 121 total yards,

and though time of possession is a deceptive stat at best, let's just throw this out there. Boston College had the ball for 40 minutes. Boston College only punted three times. What the fuck? Well, they're out of punts. They need to go to score by them for. That's why they finally scored.

They were just like, mm, boys were down on three punts. Better save them. Yeah, Connecticut. Connecticut finished with negative six rushing yards. Boston College at 154. Foo! Fun times.

Fun, fun times all over the country this week. While we're taking a belly slide through the piss trough of college football's worst. Penn State Rutgers, man. It's bad. And I don't mean, like, Rutgers, I mean, when I say it's bad, it's not even like, you know, wacky sluggers. whistle throwing the ball backwards in a

there's some of that there is some of that a little bit of that they're not entirely uncharitable they're not above bloopers sir but most of it's it's all blooper real where's the outtake most of it what do I cut here

most of it's just resignation if you watch it it's a bunch of two yard passes this was the emptiest crowd I think I've ever seen outside of Georgia State game the end of this game they were like a hundred Penn State fans and that was it yeah they had 87 records so Georgia Tech famously beat Cumberland College 22 to nothing and that was with all sorts of gigantic

advantages and it was basically like a D1 playing a D2 this is an actual FBS school that has lost to Michigan Michigan State a very bad Michigan State Penn State and Ohio State by a combined 224 to nothing. So here, I will provide some perspective here. Rutgers currently is sitting at, I pull it up, negative 244 points point differential. That's bad. But Washington State, in 2008, under Paul Wolfe, minus 405. It can be way worse.

It can be way, way. And like that records team, Paul Wolf won two games that year. That wasn't a winless squad. They just got pummeled whenever they lost. There's bad, and there's bad football, and there's really bad football, and then there's Paul Wolfe. What I really like about that Washington State season is their first one in the season against Portland State, they won by 39 points.

So it's not like they just had barely eking out wins. They built themselves a cushion, and they blew it all. Well, as we've learned from Washington State, losing the FCS game. Yeah, that's true. That's what activates your power. It's sort of the FCS school is the robber in the alley, and this season is your parents and he shoots them and then you become Batman. Is that right?

Did I do it right? Yes. I mean, kind of. I would just, I'd call them the dude who needs to take a shot in the face in a bar fight before they wake up. Okay. Yeah. Like, oh,

Big Mike's like, oh, it's like that now. I thought this was a church picnic. Big Mike just got his ass kicked my little Mike. Now he's ready to fight. Now we're burning down the bar. Yeah, that's, that's wazoo right needs to take a couple shots before they really wake up but but you said it's rivalry

rivalry week the worst fucking phrase in the world apple cup apple cup is here apple cup and it and it means it means a hell of a lot it's fierce i i love this rivalry game i would by the way the the apple cup to frame the apple cup properly for you i want to to take you to a bit of the history of the Apple Cup. That would be 2002. You ready? To show you. One, how

Rivalry's can work in long cycles. And two, how many drunk people there are at this game every year? The silence was palpably throbbing. That's quite a lead by Ted Miller. The referee Gordon Rees turned on his field mic. The click was audible. The 95th Apple Cup had lasted

four hours and nine minutes and three overtimes, and Reese was about to ensure it didn't last a moment longer. So basically, a pass that gets thrown backwards, may not have been backwards. There's a fumble. The Huskies charge the field after upsetting their third-ranked rivals. Keep in mind, Washington State at this point, 2002, ranked third.

We just talked about a 2008 team that had a negative point differential of 400. Life comes at you fast. So fast. Most of the Washington State players quickly left the field, refusing to shake hands. Some remained. But this is my favorite part of this.

Reese explained his call. Cougar fans heard differently. To many of them, Reese had said, Screw you, I'm going to steal this game for you with a lousy call. Go Huskies. For every action, there's a bitter reaction. Then Ted Miller writes, thunk, plunk, wham. A few bottles were hurled toward the field,

and then a whole bunch followed. We all go berserk. Huskies' offensive tackle, Khalif Barnes were called. Things were great. And then I started dodgy. dodging bottles. UW receiver, Reggie Williams, was hit by a bottle.

Outside linebacker, Greg Carruthers' father was hit by a bottle. So is Tacoma News Tribune Husky's beat writer Craig Hill. A Seattle television reporter barely flinched when a cup of beer landed on his head while he interviewed kicker John Anderson. I was worried about my mom, UW quarterback Cody Pickett said. She was wearing my jersey and I was like, Mom, what are you doing? Put your coat back on. It was crazy.

that's why I love the Apple Cup because not only were they throwing bottles UW fans were throwing bottles at their own athletic director because they could that's why because she was the one who ended up hiring Rick Neuheisel that's why they were throwing bottles at her

and this was back before it got bad this is when things were actually okay they thought things were bad they had no idea they would soon find the depths of bad you're talking about 2008 we go on there yeah I mean that was when things were good man

then everything falls apart and you get the crapple cup one of the worst rivalry games or best I don't know you want to expound on this Jason circumstances were amazing the team's one total win end of the season last game of the season one total win I don't know

what much more you need to know here other than one of the drunkest rivalry in the country the two worst teams in the country playing for absolutely nothing well this is this is that that minus four oh whatever i said that's that washington state team and that's them winning against who is it a coach i'm sure who has been lost to history and is and plays no important role in college football now well that'll be tyrone willingham oh that's right how many Playoff committee members are their name tonight who've made excellent decisions.

Did Kirby Hocut actually run off Leach? I thought he was at Miami. I believe it was, I think Hocut is involved. Anyway, y'all look that up. Yeah. We ain't got time. Email Spencer, email Spencer with the details of that, if you would. Thank you.

I would also put it this way that it wasn't Hocut actually. It was a different, it was a different, it was a different functionary. Okay. Actually, no, it was. I'm sorry. It was totally ho-cut at Texas Tech. I was wrong. I was wrong about my own rightness.

The 2008 Apple Cup, the score was 1613. It was 1613 in two over times. Yes. That's the good stuff. That's the good stuff. there is a pack 12 game we should talk about there's a couple of pack 12 games we should talk about which one we can we can start with the

the well-played one for the entirety of the game that had a big play at the end or the poorly played one that had a big play at the end which one do you want to go with let's start with our maybe let's follow our style let's start with the poorly played one uh hey utah let's talk

yeah buddy Utah um Utah you lost to Washington this year and that's okay that was a well-played game Washington needed every second of that game to beat you needed a special teams play perfectly respectable you have two other losses this year Utah and they are to Cal and Oregon and I want you to think about that and come back when you have an answer as to why can we rephrase you have a loss to Cal that occurred because Cal had a goal line stand defensive stalwart

the Cal Bears yep did you forget that that Cal won a game on a goal line stands on and and you have a loss to Oregon because you couldn't run the ball that well against them so

is Oregon actually okay no no no I literally said this when you look at the schedule? It's hard. Like, who's the second worst team behind Cal that Oregon has lost to? Who's the best team that they've, who's,

who's the second best team that they've beaten? Virginia. Talk about a collection of quality losses. This might be the best, the best pile of quality losses of the playoff era. They, they kind of fuck that up by beating Utah, but

Nebraska, Colorado, Washington, State, Washington, and Stanford all ranked and then you throw in Cal and USC. That'd be somehow nine win Sanford. That's right. That's right. Laughed at Stanford and I mean Stanford's pretty much Stanford

things were rough for like a week or two. Stanford had a normal Stanford season. Exactly. Like aristocrats tend to do yeah. You're like oh look they're floundering so and at the end of the season And it's like, ha ha ha,

the yacht's so splendid today. I think the Stanford fan would say, like, the market corrected. Yep. Yeah, the market corrected. The bubble burst on Stanford doubt.

That's what happened. The cow bubble burst. Yeah. Utah, I don't know what you're made of or what you're doing or how that happened, especially when you have Joe Williams

at tailback. TLDR. What are you doing when you have Joe Williams back there? The. game you were talking about the actual good one that I enjoyed all the way through probably one of my favorite games to watch this year

a pleasure 3824 number 10 Colorado they are 7 and 1 of the pack 12 they are 9 and 2 overall they're awesome Colorado is legitimately awesome we do not have to make this up we do not have to buffet them

with compliments they are 9 and damn too and they did so behind a dude who I am totally going to put on a parliament ballot. I don't care. I don't care. I'm not going to put a single Bamo player on it. I'm going to put Cephael LaFalle on there because Cephael LaFal was the reason that they are nine and two. Like ran for over 100 yards, passed for 3.45. He was incredible. He's a monster and he's the reason they managed to beat. A really good Washington State team. Another fun thing to say in the year

2016, an awesome Washington state team. He's also, I mean, you say he's the reason he's nine and two, and that's true of the nine. It's also kind of true of the two, because those are the two games where he really couldn't play because he got hurt. Yeah, they were hanging with Michigan until he got hurt. That's totally true. Yeah, we could have avoided this entire flirtation with Michigan being in the playoff if we had just kept Cepho LaFal intact. Also, that USC loss, 2117, that looks good for both of them now.

You're like, hmm, yep, perfectly respectable. And Colorado, Colorado still controls the Pac-12 South. They can still get to the conference championship game, potentially play Washington if Washington beats Wazoo. And then I don't, you know, there are all these different schools of thought about, you know, whether you take a conference championship and under what circumstances and blah, blah, blah, blah.

And if you just take Colorado in a vacuum and you take away all the name brand shit and all the sort of what we thought, they were going to be and you just say do they check the right boxes if they beat Washington that's a huge win for them at the end of the season they would be a conference champion if you want to reward teams for scheduling tough out of conference they went to an arbor like there is a there is a weird thing and it's not look I know it's not going to happen and I know I'm just talking nonsense at this point but there is some um academic case to be made

that Colorado should be closer to a playoff spot now than anybody is considering. They're not out of it. I think looking just quickly eyeballing the schedule and the potential schedule with a Pac-12 title game, it looks like they could be six and two against bowl teams, which isn't that great, but if a little bit of crazy stuff happens elsewhere, they're not out of it. Yeah, both losses on the road, both relatively early in the season. And it probably, they are probably hurt by the fact that Utah gagged away a winnable game against Oregon.

That would have, it would have helped them to have another, like, top 10 opponent on the schedule. But, yeah, I mean, I, listen, I know Colorado's not going to make the college football playoff. And that may, that may well be because they can't beat Washington. And that's fine. But who the buffs are fun this year. Yeah. And a joy to watch, especially because Mike McIntyre gets like, so, so just dang district manager. you're proud of his employees after every game.

Like, oh man, I know we had that retreat back at the Galleria, the management one. You know, we did the karaoke. I knew we were going to be great. One of the most buying in and out for players, coaches. Guys, I'm so excited. I'm getting everybody double order cheese fries at Dave and Busters this weekend. It's going to be great.

Colorado is two wins away from the Rose Bowl. That's real and true. can i can i can i can i tell you can i tell you somebody who is six inches away from what they wanted to happen god this is my wife that was good that was good we're all the way back around on cora that's the last movie jason's scene i've seen people on twitter quoted ironically

okay okay that's what i was doing Yeah, go ahead, Spencer, just rip this Band-Aid off. That'd be LSU? Oh, we're too scared to play. Oh, man, just you saying them like, oh, gives me a fright, gives me a fright. Just so scared, so timid. Just working that weather machine.

I read all these articles telling me exactly what I wanted to hear, that Florida was too scared. Far too scared, terrified of playing LSU. So that's why we moved the game to Baton Rouge and played you with nothing. Absolutely nothing. There's no one. No one's healthy on this roster.

There was a banged-up freshman. Tyree Cleveland. He had 124 yards receiving. You know why? I don't. I'm asking. I don't know why. Well, yeah, because they pretty much all came on one play.

Florida had a 98-yard scoring play how many yards do they have the rest of the day all told oh they were 270 total yeah so so you know LSU out gained Florida

by a whopping margin 423 to 270 it looked like it too yeah it was a nerd just a veritable fountain of punts LSU was well was way better on third down they were much better running

the ball um so they won this they they won this game right no man no because they had they had five red zone possessions and how many points are they score in this game 10 that you averaging two points per trip inside the 20 that's bad yeah it's not even some like oh we missed a bunch of no no you just just didn't do it yeah Should have won this game. You're all teed up. But unfortunately, Florida was so terrified, so mortified at the notion of playing this game that they stopped LSU on third and goal, and then they stopped them again on fourth and goal.

Do you know what's truly, truly fucking baffling? The concept that if Florida doesn't get that stop and LSU scores and kicks the extra point and wins 1716, that Ed Orgeron's fate is deep. different. What a, like, dumb, it doesn't mean the rest of the game didn't happen. It doesn't mean this wasn't, like, LSU playing down to an opponent that they should have been able to handle and making stupid mistakes and not take, you know, like, it doesn't erase any of it. Is that really how fickle fate is that it literally came down to that yard? And if they get it, Ed Orgeron is on track to be LSU.

LSU! Not, I mean, I just don't understand sometimes. No, that was it. Remember, it makes total sense to hire him if they score beat Florida, a team that they outgained in every single category who looked like dog shit most of the game. It makes total sense to hire Ed Ogeron. I like to think that Bill Stewart, may he rest in peace,

reach down from heaven and pushed LSU back be as if to say Ed, I've been here, you don't want this. It ends with some spectacular mistakes on your part. It ends with you being replaced by a man who you will later attempt to rat out as a rowdy casino goer. That won't go well for you. Even though you'll be right.

Even though you'll be 100% right. you'll be totally right but yeah but yeah that's how you'll lose this job so congratulations lSU you lost to the most you lost to the most terrified team in college football it takes seven passes to beat lSU we now know that's that's this that's how many licks it takes to get to the center of this chitzy roll pop yeah although really awesome work i believe is marcel harris 26, watch them on that last play, tosses a dude aside, gets in and wraps up on guys

like a toddler clinging to its mother, keeping him the crucial six inches from the end zone. And remind me Florida's reward for this hard-fought victory?

Oh, we get two. It's a double holiday. We get to play Florida. We get to play Florida State. Yay! And we get to play Alabama. The opening line for which was Alabama by three touchdowns. No, I mean, that's, yeah, that's, that's more than fair. Like, if I'm, if I'm CBS, I'm suing Las Vegas right now for all of the lost television market.

All of it, that entire second half. Jesus, you couldn't, you couldn't just do 14? You do us a fucking solid? We know what's going to happen. Can you just claim you got the two of the two of the one switched around? Oh, so 21 seems low. 21? I don't know because, you know.

Okay. Okay. Listen, it's not as though Florida's healthy. It's not as though Florida is healthy, but flawed. That was the case last year, though. What was the school last year? It wasn't that bad. I mean, it was over after a quarter, but it wasn't.

They lose. It wasn't a runaway. They start rotating freshmen in. Lane Kiffin starts dicking around. 2915 last year. Yeah. man. Injured Florida.

They get bored. They get so bored. They're so tired. Also, that had better TV ratings than LSU, Georgia, or Mizzou, Alabama in the SEC championship. So, don't worry. There you go. You'll pull your own weight.

I mean, what? It had double the TV ratings of LSU Georgia a decade earlier. If we're eight points better than the University of Tennessee Chattanooga, Mocks. Damn, good. Because Alabama only beat them 31-3. Well, that'll be 11. buddy what's wrong what's wrong with your face alabama 31 3rd you anemic do you need a sake please don't please don't harass them right now that's not what we need please don't encourage

we are we already have to deal with bud on twitter for the next week no no he can talk because they could they could reach up and get bit i'm convinced that guy Florida state's not that good y'all beat lSU once and you're walking tall we've we've we've got almost an hour without Remember, Alabama's a machine. Florida State's trash forever. Let's talk about trash machines. Ohio State Michigan is this week. Do you like passing?

Too bad. Oh, yeah. This is going to be the game where every Big Ten fan is, if this were an SDC game, if you'd be calling it a defense to struggle, but because it's a Big Ten game, everyone hates it. And they would say that as every SEC fan is watching it

without complaining. This is Big Ten football. I'm going to swole. a meatloaf hole just to prove that I can't you don't have to do that there are other more exciting way no man you're a coward put on a sweatshers players can see their breaths so therefore every SDC fan is crawled up in the corner screaming I'll see you're at the tanning salon oh god for considering you all have the smart schools like what is with the forced human discomfort

what's with the notion that being cold is cool like that's not it doesn't i mean like look at other cold countries and tell me you think they're like super badass and tough like no one's ever like man luxembourg luxembourg sweden sweden i mean you know there's sure you're like yeah finns okay well that one that one's yeah yeah that one's like Canada Canada fucking Canada what the tide ever played Toronto yeah i mean i don't really look at the united states and think when i think of toughness i think of connecticut yeah i mean that's not why y'all why y'all trying so hard that's i don't i don't get it i don't get it when you're like what would an cc fan say if they saw this at a football game

should alabama schedule a home and home with minnesota just to shut this shit up you really want this to happen we'll play the coldest fucking game you got go ahead let's play it in march don't care that's it you know what it's and it goes both ways LSU went up and they lost to Wisconsin in Lambo when it was too hot when it was perfectly warm that's that's yeah that's great I want to hear big 10 fans being like you just can't handle the heat up here. Crazy. Humidity. Wisconsin humidity.

That was notorious Wisconsin humidity. It's the beer mist. The dry, the dry air. Gotcha. I mean, the cold weather thing is you're the guy playing golden eye who can only win with like remote mines or something. No, man, this is the only way. This is real gold my.

You don't know. I mean, that's fine. We'll watch this happily. It's awesome. I love like, snow started coming down on the field. and that was great. West Virginia, Oklahoma, we're at it, and all of a sudden, like, you're in the middle of a blizzard?

Fantastic. Dana Holgerson looked even rudderier and angrier and messier. He even looked more. I woke up under a bridgy, thanks to the snow coming down. We like this. I don't ever understand other conferences being like, well, you know, here's our brand.

Kiss the brand. That's not me? That's fine. You want to say the SEC's trash? You want to say playing in the heat sucks? You know what? Being at a game. It's bad.

It's bad. It's terrible, and I don't recommend it. The plumbing in our stadium's not good in the field floods. Yeah. And see fans for the August nooners next year. Just need to talk so much. You don't play Louisiana, Lafayette at noon at 11 a.m. Central. Do you know how hard it is to maintain, you know how hard it is to maintain focus when it's

88 degrees with 90% humidity and you're up 40 points on Charlotte. You've never been in the stands at 1.30 in the afternoon after how's and half a cheeseburger pizza for breakfast in August? It just means more. It just means more. I like that we've made every Big Ten fan sound like macho man or something. Is that, is that, that's not our midwestern. I don't, I don't happen. We've, we've, we've, we're, this is tough Midwestern.

It's different. Um, but yeah we get to see john o' corn go up against ohio state yay oh man this is going to be so much awkward fumbling so much awkward fumbling in this game and it's not it'll be great i mean don't get me wrong it won't be pretty it'll be everything like ultimately we were talking about how todd grantham always buckles down and immediately starts throwing like multiple agap blitzes and freaks out and has like an emotional tantrum on the field through his play calling when things get tough urban mire just goes to his offensive line and just attempts to throw them into a brick wall over and over again which is a great strategy if you have elf line and the rest of ohio states offensive line so i hope he does that because ultimately that's what they're going to try to do they're going to try to headbutt michigan unconscious in the third and fourth quarter does either team throw 25 passes in this game no 30 let's make it 30 no okay

oh oh not happening i think i think i think i think michigan tops out at 20 and ohio state might might get to 25 okay yeah no that seems right that seems right um it's yeah no it'll be it'll be it will be it will be uh just watching two people try to kick each other in a parking lot as you know that thing where like you're pulling two people away from each other and try to kick at each other, that's what the game is going to be this year. I have one more result I would like to cite. This is really for Jason Kirk's benefit. But in the battle of Kiay-Ki-Mas, Georgia,

Georgia State again upsets Georgia Southern. I don't even understand a single word of that. Georgia State is on a two-and-o run. Georgia State, a program that no one really knows why it exists, is on a two and a run against the former greatest FCS dynasty of all time. There is now a rivalry trophy that it's the Billy Joel of rivalry trophies. It says, rivalry series on it. It's the only thing that wasn't trademarked. I don't.

The Georgia State just fucking fired his coach. And there's a highlight video. they said it to um drake you ain't from you ain't from the city or whatever is the line um you're from nat town uh and the highlight video there's no one in the stands a team no one cares about owns georgia southern now how why yeah by the way georgia southern might not have their coach either they they'll pull the plug on a person fast oh they they've demonstrated before right they will fire a head coach after one year if you a lose and b fuck with the option Yeah, Chris Hatcher. Chris Hatcher, they did that to him, too. I don't think it was one. I think he got two years maybe, but Georgia Southern will fire your ass. That's low-key, the least secure job if they don't like you, right?

I think they'd fire somebody who had like 10 wins, just going to be like, nah. Nah, next. It's like there's like an ideological purity to the Georgia Southern job. Like, if you're not winning conference titles and whatever every year, you better be running the damn Paul Johnson office. because if you evolve it, you know, if you try to modernize it, who, buddy, you better fucking win. And then that ain't happening at the moment. Here's what I will say.

The Paul Johnson offense can sit on a 17-point lead and hang on win a game, right? Oh, yeah. I think Notre Dame needs to hire Paul Johnson based on this Virginia Tech result. I wanted to close with this, and I am so glad you read my mom. because I saw on the score watching other games saw you know you're like hmm that's 2414

I'm pretty sure the Hokies can come back for that no no but you know it got worse got worse Notre Dame went up and then they weren't up anymore I mean you know who literally held on to a big lead against Virginia Tech earlier this month was Paul Johnson

yeah funny it's amazing um yeah every every Notre Dame loss this year has been by one score and and it's been to a variety of teams some of which are can be can be characterized as goodish uh you got your Stanford your Navy your Virginia Tech and there they all qualify in that uh you got Texas and Michigan State and Duke and NC State uh as well but All of them, one loss. All of them one score losses. And you have Duke.

Duke. Well, you know, this is, by the way, I mean, they blew a 17-point lead here, and that's crushing. But at least they got to do it in Blacksburg, right? Got to just get out of there, get on the road, and, you know, give the hokey something to smile about, right? I mean, no, that's not. You know what, this season is, this season is all their bullshit wins from the 2012 season. They're paying back on those. They're finally making good on those.

There's a little bit of that. There's also, I mean, I'm going to say this just to cover our collective asses. Whatever Nebraska was last year, Notre Dame is that this year. So if they come roaring back and win nine games last year, yeah, we saw it coming. You can't hurt us. You heard what Ryan said. Notre Dame is four and seven.