Shutdown Fullcast - Shutdown Fullcast 4.68 - THE BOLD STATEMENTS EPISODE

Episode Date: March 8, 2017

Instead of questions, we asked you to give us your BOLLLLLD STATEMENTS so that we might judge them and hoobuddy did you deliver. Amongst the opinions that we weighed: - Taco Bell > Chipotle - Texas would have beaten Alabama if Colt McCoy had played - Nebraska was right to fire Bo Pelini - The three of us could not defeat a wolf in combat - No school that hasn't won a title before will win one in the future - Atlanta will soon be a baseball town - Empire Strikes Back and Bill Murray and the Sega Dreamcast are all bad and dumb - Michael Dyer was down Again, these are YOUR opinions, that you shared with us, on a public social media platform, simply because we asked. As a thanks for doing so, we are back to our usual meh-at-best audio quality we love youuuuuuuuu. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Shutdown Fullcast, the Bold Statements Edition. It's a college football podcast, but, you know, it's the off-season. And I think that it's come time for a Ryan Nanny Original. Say hi, Ryan. Hello. I'm so damn proud of our audience because I like answering questions on this podcast. They frequently give us interesting and clever questions, but I thought, why not mix it up a little bit this off-season? Why not ask for our good and kind listeners to give us bold statements with which we can either agree or disagree or something in between?

And man, in true, the most American thing about our listeners is they were so much better at making bold, possibly, incredibly wrong statements than about asking thoughtful questions. That is United States as hell. Wave that flag. This ain't a podcast about research. It's about saying it with your chest. Say it like you mean it. Say what you know is true. Even if you haven't verified it with fact.

That's right. Stick your foot in it. Yeah. I think that before we start, anything college football related, I don't know. Ole Miss lost its letter from the NCAA

they don't have a copy of it they're like I don't know where it went I was saying about that like is that why they did Ryan as my lawyer you can probably answer this is that why they did the whole thing as a video at least the transcript of the video like as a as a extra way of showing

we didn't write down shit all we did was turn on the camera you know what let's go with yes that makes the most sense because there's no other reason why they would do that video unless the one thing the one thing that did appeal to me about it is if old miss can get away with just a pre-prepared statement video instead of a press conference for this then every SEC coach is going to do this for quote unquote media availability nick save it is not taking

another question for the rest of his time at alabama it's all going to be prepared statements on video that and just started a personal youtube i i want to Nick Saban to do a personal Snapchat so he can personally direct a rant at you when he gets angry at you and he can't do it all at once so he has to escalate snap by

snap, right? So you just get, you know, like 10 seconds of, and I don't know, I mean, if you're going to say those kind of things, you just go out there and I guess I guess you just say it. We just take it one vlog at a time. That's it.

And then eventually it's like about the next vlog by the end by the time he forgets to take off the filter that's like the raging screaming demon like he's doing the part where he's like listen i i appreciate the valuable service you raise interest in our sport but he's saying it is satan here's the thing it's not a filter yeah no nick sabin with the nick sabin with the beauty filter or with the beautiful wreath and garland right like above his head like the flowers infuriated and going I you know you just you get our players to believe this shit and that's that's why that's why the media makes our job harder than it has to be like next got that's it like 16 snaps you have bambi you have bambi eyes yeah with big bambi with big bambi eyes going like you know like shit through a tin horn we need somebody somebody out there please when you get bored enough in spring ball please run up on sabin and filter him while he's talking you'll never be invited back

Somebody's going to do this at SEC Media Days, I promise you. Yep, we're not, we won't hire you. There's literally nothing in this for you. There's no incentives. Well, we'll thank you on a bad podcast. Terrible podcast, God. Let's just start, let's just start charging through these. Let's jump into it.

I want to defer to you to if you have one you want to start with. I'm going to let you lead. All right. We're going to, all right, we'll start with one of my. favorites. This is from Chris Barnwall. Chris Barnwall likes to write to us. He's a friend of the podcast. I'll give him that status. And he's going to need it

because this is his bold statement. The Sega Dreamcast was not ahead of its time and deserved failure. Hey, Chris, hey Chris, I'm sorry you're fucking terrible at Crazy Taxi. I am. I'm sorry that you can't

successfully get through more than a minute and a half of gameplay and that you find the offsprings rocking soundtrack distracting Yeah the game only had two songs in like one level so what I'm sorry I'm sorry you can't appreciate the fine

design innovation odes to Japanese culture taught plot lines and yet open world casual free wheeling action of Shenway okay a revolutionary game that never got its due I mean let me hit you with the original

Sol caliber back when back when folks were barely even understanding wrapping their minds around Virtua Fighter. Back when the mediocre Tekken was out, they hit you with Soul Calibur. Come on now. Man, Soul Caliber, for everybody who had a fighting game,

Soul Calibur was it. It was Soul, and it was caliber. You put them together, and you blew minds. They had the rip-off Ryu who had the long staff and the guy who was a knight who turned into a demon. Yeah, that guy was a big hammer. I will play any game where there's a big old, He's falling out of his test, Chris.

Exactly. Big wamp and hammer. Let me ask you, when did Randy Moss get on the cover of Madden? It wasn't until like 2009 or something, 2014. Long-ass time, right? After 2K had had it three times. Yep. Three in a row.

Also, low-key, Dreamcast, because it was disc-based instead of cartridge, as most other. a lot of other platforms were before it. Super easy to get illegal games so easy. Oh, man, the easiest. By the way, I'm not done here. I have a good Shenway story. It's not mine. I'm going to tell it because it's great

because it illustrates the brilliance of one of our friends, John Boys of SBNation.com. John Boys and his brother both played Shenway, and his brother's character loaded up on his profile had all of this money that he had earned in the game, which was not entirely easy to do. and he piled up massive amounts of money as this character in a fictional world, right?

So John is the older brother. What does John do? John goes into the game, sees his brother has a ton of money, takes the fictional character, bloop, bluplu, down to the arcade

and blows it all in like Pachinko and bubble gum. Like, blows like 50 grand, like just sits there and spends all of his brother's money. So when his brother comes back, he's like, why do I have all this gum? It's like a magnificent Big Brother move.

Oh, also, NFL 2K, the Rams and NFL 2K are one of the best video game teams ever. The playbook is immaculate. And like, seriously, with Brandon Manu Malau unit, you can get like 200 yards on this, like, tied-in wheel route. They have in that playbook that I've never seen anywhere else. It's just amazing. Oh, and they had Marshall Falk. Their college games suck, though. I will freely admit.

There's that. There's that. 2K over Madden forever. Madden might have caught up. by now, but everybody knows it's true. Took you damn long enough, man. Yeah, but yeah, NCAA was always better. Like, that's just a much better game.

But, yeah, that's its only fault. Otherwise, Dreamcast? Flawless. I don't know about that. Also, the controller would be, like, winking at you and shit. It had a little had a little, the memory card had... It had the only

thing that could keep, that could prevent screen peaking before they had, like, when you were playing against somebody, you could actually look down, and call a play on the little screen in the controller. Yeah. Yeah, and if it didn't have nothing to do, it would be making a smiley face or something. Yeah, do you want to know when my dad ceased beating me

ever in any video game that was a sports game when we got a dream cast? Because he was a screen. You're not going to show me your cards. Oh, God damn it. Blackjack is hard. Spencer's dad is Bill Belichick. 100. More like thrill, Belichick.

I do have one I would like to answer Chris Barnwell I can't believe you are that wrong Get that, get out of here, Chris Just unanimous no, unanimous no to that And you're friend of the show, but Tonight you've got to sleep somewhere else Don't have to go home

You can't sleep here Go Orlando, he can't help it Yeah, I've got this Let's see Kentucky will win The SEC East No. No.

Hold on. Who's getting credit for this bold statement? No one on those statements here. I'm sorry. That's at fake gimmel. At fake gimmel. Again, long-term friend, long-time friend of the podcast. Yeah, that's not, I don't, it has not happening.

Okay. It's not. For the sake of argument, let's look at Kentucky's 2017 schedule. Let's just play it out. Not happening. Right. I think that you're the first person on. the entire internet to do this?

Like, do you think even Mark Stoops has looked at this 2017 schedule? Yeah, probably I am. Mark, call me if you want to know. Kentucky, you have to play road games against South Carolina, Mississippi State, Vandy, and Georgia. That's not terrible as these things go. And the cross-divisional games that they have are Mississippi State and Ole Miss, which as of now, does it.

It doesn't seem like the heaviest load if you're going to have to pick two opponents from the West. Yeah, yeah, I'd say so. That Mississippi State game, I wouldn't touch that with a 10-foot pole. No, no, you don't want to play them next year. And with the exception of the Louisville game at the end of the year, this, and I say this as a Florida fan, this non-conference schedule, Southern Miss, at Southern Miss, though, so good on you. That's a revenge game, by the way. Yeah, it is. That's true.

That's true. Eastern Kentucky, Eastern Michigan. Yeah, this is dokey water. Hey, listen, that Eastern Michigan, that's, that's bold team, Eastern Michigan to you, buddy. That's true. That's true. That's the import from the factory, brother. I will, I will tensively say that not because of Kentucky's own merits, but only because

the SEC East next year might be the perfect storm of, oh no, we all shot here. each other fatally. I think this is a maybe. I'm not going to give it the straight no. Maybe you drop the game at Georgia and count on Georgia to fuck up something along the way. Oh, and Georgia will fuck up something along the way.

A Florida game. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So there was mine. I'm just saying that. Jason, you got a verdict on that? On that one? Yeah. Yeah, I think we settled that.

Next. All right. Let's do this one. This is from Attaker Finch at Dude 3,000. Texas would have won if Colt hadn't got hurt. Oh, boy. This is a common one online. This is a fun one because it caused me to go back and look at the box score for this game.

Do either of you remember how many yards Greg McElroy threw for in this game? Oh, oh, man. Nothing. As few as possible. Hold on. Let's do this Price's Right style. I'm going to let Spencer go first. I believe Greg McElroy threw for 64 yards in this game.

Okay. Jason? Put me down for 111. Jason, you nearly doubled. And Spencer's still over. So both of you lost. Greg McElroy threw for 58 yards in a national champion, in a successful national championship game. This is maybe the nadir of,

excellent Alabama football in terms of like the worst Sabin ball display ever because they go they phone the second half the hell in they run every play to 40 sec right just like creeping to the line they bleed every bit of clock it's

absolutely unwatchable and like the secondary is just playing loose so Garrett Gilbert racks up a bunch of yards and everyone goes oh man Texas really came back in that game he also threw four picks man he threw four picks with zeal.

Yeah. Including, including like a shovel, a shovel pass pick six right when he entered the game, if I recall. Yeah, right in there to alignment, I believe. Yep, just here, here it go. So let's, let's get to the mean of the question, though. If Colt McCoy doesn't get hurt plays this whole game, who wins? Well, considering that, you know, Colt didn't beat Nebraska. Colt really didn't.

I'm glad you brought that up. I looked at that stat line. man 20 of 36 for 184 yards and three picks that's a Greg Davis line right there that was like this Texas team did not play a super high caliber of team I believe they only played three before the national championship they only played three teams that finished the year ranked and a lot of those teams

were not known for having defense Nebraska was one of them and Colt McCoy struggled mightily so yeah probably not I think what we're saying is Damokong Su won the national title that year That's true I'm happy I'm happy to give

Indamakan Su The Pritzker Prize For architecture I'm happy to give him The Fuller medal I'm happy to give him Whatever award he would You know what

And let's say let's go ahead and count that as like a seventh of a Super Bowl For the Lions You got it You did it guys That's more more than they have now so sure that's that's a lot significant improvement uh jason do you have one yeah from alice darrow wilkins when crediting shows for great seasons and penalizing them for bad

king of the hill emerges as greatest animated show ever um i mean obviously i don't i'm not going to disagree with that i don't even need to i don't even need any sort of rating system but i think um I think that's pretty hard to dispute. The first, I'd say, two or three or four seasons are much stronger than after that, but not really a bad season anywhere, anywhere throughout. Definitely nothing like, I don't know, the office where it just completely falls off the rails. Or the last three decades of the Simpsons. Or the last like two or three lifetimes of the Simpsons.

Where does South Park fall in here? it's been the same damn show forever it was never that great like i mean i i think i watched it mostly in college which is a little silly because more of like a middle school show that makes you feel like you're a smart grown-up and like i remember there being a couple minutes per episode that were really good but yeah it was i think it was new that was his greatest asset you said man the show is very loud and it is very new and sometimes it's good and then And that went on for a while, and I think people called on about four seasons, and it just kind of went all down. When it's good, it's good.

But, like, the formula became really clear, which is like, oh, this show is so edgy, they're going to call those people assholes. And then they're so edgy, they're going to call the opposite people assholes. And then they're going to propose that nobody really care too much either way. Yeah, it's just, like, it's just sort of been exercise and, like, cheerful night. nihilism every single week, which, cool, I know it's coming. You're never really going to surprise me. I will say, it was very short-lived, and you know where I'm going with this. I do.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But for what it ended up meaning for me in my life. Yeah. Yeah, CLAB 2021. Yep. I also, I could have gone for ski dingo there as well. They're both. man that was they didn't even finish two seasons yeah that's how you know it was good yeah so based on this based on the uh this scoring metric those shows that have gotten a one and a two those are pretty good like a lot of shows have neither a one nor a two right yeah like four four seasons and we out and the only reason we lost anyone on the cast and suffered any decline in quality was cancer so really like grading on a curve really really really

high level of difficulty at sea labs there king of the hill like so that's second season go back and look at the second and third seasons it's just nothing but hits man and they made so many of them they made so many king of the hills because you think oh man and in netflix age like you know they've got like 16 shows i can watch about 16 shows when i sit down an entire season of the king of the hill it was a proper tv season it had like like what uh 25 episodes? Like 25, 30, yeah. Yeah.

And I also feel like more than, definitely more than South Park, probably more than a lot of the Simpsons. King of the Hell was not very dependent on what was going on in the world at the time, which is a good way to make something that's good then, but not a good way to make something that necessarily is funny five, ten years later. So a lot of it still stands up a ton. Yeah. If you're having this conversation at all and the words family guy enter your head, delete our podcast.

Don't listen to us. Think about what you've done in life. Now we have to move on to this question. All right. There's so many evil ones. I'm sort of sorting through here. Let's go to the most evil one. Eric Seeds, at Eric Seeds, Empire Strikes Back is overrated.

Woo. I know, I know Jason took this one to the family. Yeah, we were at dinner, and I was scrolling through these and saw this one and read it out loud. And my daughter could, like, it was like I just spoke in a language, not of this world. It was like I said words that had never been uttered before. She could not believe that someone would come to this conclusion. Like, to her, like, I've always said, you know, I don't give her the hot takes about movies. I'll say, you know, Star Wars 2 is very bad, and she'll say, no, actually, that one's good, too.

But if you say Star Wars 5 is bad, I don't know. I mean, because in a kids' trilogy, which I hate to tell you, if you haven't thought of it this way, it's a kids trilogy. We just happen to enjoy it as adults. In a kids trilogy, in the second one, it punched you in the face and the gut. took you up back beat you up with the tire iron you're like oh cool a main character might be dead or gone forever another one lost an arm another one lost an arm and like was strongly hinted that he was headed down some sort of boomed path toward the dark side a secondary character has been disassembled and is now chubacca's backpack but chubaca lost his best friend yep a possibly

a possibly traitorous, scandalous, scoundrel entered the picture and may not be trustworthy in Landau, right? Meanwhile, Darth Vader's like, woo! If you're a Darth Vader fan empire is awesome. Running shit. That's like peak Darth Vader. You look at it from the other side, he's like, my boss is real happy with me, running shit, got things going,

might have lost Luke, but got a tail on him, took his hand, got your son. Like, there's all kinds of like absolute, Like, this is the one that really dad should like most because the dad, like, comes in and wrecks shit. Yeah, like, the two most successful moments for the heroes in Empire are arguably when Han Solo successfully slices open a dead animal to keep Luke from freezing to death. And when Hans Solo escapes the belly of another giant animal to prevent his ship from being swallowed alive. So, cool. Great job, guys.

Yeah, like the big move is, we got away and Luke survives by falling down an enormous vacuum cleaner. Well done. It's awesome. After, after no lie, getting his ass fucking wucks. Getting tore up to the point where Vader's taunting him. He's like, oh, here, I'm just going to throw some space garbage at you. You should, somebody should recut that fight scene with Brent Musburger calling the Notre Dame Alabama game. with the bra sound effect in there

and the hand that was lost many decades later being used to what was it clone ray I believe is the spoilers is that the conspiracy theory? I think so I think Mark Hamill actually mentioned that as like

that was the original proposal for seven was they've got Luke's hand they're using it to clone stuff he's actually a starfish that's like way too George Lucas it really should just be like hey man Luke's been on a bender

for like the last 20 years he ended up in some kind of weird places got kind of lonely he ever been in a canteen orgy it's cold one night one magical night Luke's actually just peeing off the side of that cliff

when the child support someone's came he was like I'm not who you're looking for this is not the dude you're looking for walk away I will walk away

you will forget where my island of drunken solitude is where I get hammered every single night where do I got to go to

I'm showing up and handing me weapons you will come back with a 24 pack of bush light and some smokes you will also bring chips

I have one Which we discussed pre-show So a little cheat here There's a pre-show The shutdown full cast is taking your question The question given here at J-Turn 14, Jared Turner Taco Bell

Is superior to Chipotle Even without regard to cost Now This is the one that I mean it says a lot about us. This provoked probably the most discussion amongst us the most philosophizing, the most consideration of who

we are and where we are on our walk. Yep. I will actually admit yes, I think for what it is and for its purposes, Taco Bell is superior to Chipotle. Here's why. I don't want any bias here. Yeah, Chipotle has given me food poisoning.

So is Taco Bell. I could have just said I've eaten a Taco Bell in multiple occasions We're good, we're on a streak now Food poisoning references on this shirt Was this one week ago? No, no, no. This was another glorious time

When I rebooted An entire Chipotle meal That turned out to be part of that great Chipotle like spree they went on When they had like spoiled meat Oh yeah I guess there was a sale The lines were real short for a few months

Thanks in part to Spencer. I feel like Taco Bell has not had that, weirdly. Taco Bell, if everything goes well. Taco Bell knows where the hot bodies. Well, it also helps that most people who throw up after eating Taco Bell can reasonably say, like, it might have been all that gin last night. I was going to say there's confounding factors there. Like, could have been the Taco Bell or could have been the ripple.

I don't know. Also, they're throwing up at 3 a.m. not at work. Yeah, exactly. Not just mysteriously on their dashboard. Or they're throwing up at work, and it's definitely a confounding factor. Oh, boy, 99 bananas was not a good breakfast choice. Yeah. So I will say this, though, that I think in terms of what they are, Taco Bell is meant to be consumed.

I mean, think about it this way. Taco Bell knows what they are to the point where they created fourth meal. Because they're basically like, yeah, you're going to be out of your mind on something. There's going to be a big old bright light. And your stomach's going to go, help us out, buddy. Throw us, throw us a bone. They're like, you know what? Sleep in nine hours is for people who wouldn't eat Taco Bell anyway.

We don't need to cater to those. Give me the five-hour folks. Play to the base. You don't need independence. You need the base. Also, consider this that, like, there's a book. You might have read it if you were going through some kind of, like, stoner phase. stoner intellectual phase, you know,

go to Escher Bach, the Eternal Golden Brade by Douglas R. Hoff's daughter. And I was talking about, you know, how you can take a bunch of simple elements and sort of braid them together into this, like, endless stream of creativity. That's been Taco Bell's menu for the better part of now going on almost 50 years because they have the same ingredients and they keep making new things out of them. You got a burrito? Oh, cool. Why don't we put a taco in the middle?

you got a taco why we put a burrito in the middle you got a toastata what if we put a taco on that tostata you think they're done nope they've gotten even crazier they made they made they made a chicken taco where the taco was just chicken there's only one frontier really left for them and that is to actually construct a giant church bell made of tacos The literal Taco Bell And then if you eat that They'll just put it inside a burrito Like remember they had a taco where they were literally just like Why don't we put a soft taco and some bean I'm pretty sure they got Shaq to endorse it Of course they got Shaq to endorse it

I like that every Taco Bell commercial After like the goofy stoner whatever like talking dog or whatever It boils down to cheesier beefier crunchyer. Whereas Chippole is Chipotle is the ideal food source for people who want to

lie about eating healthy. Yeah. I'm just going to have Brito Bowl. You know, I'm just watching. Yeah, the tortillas are where all the trouble is. Mm-hmm. No, I'm not. Only a little cheese, please. I'm just going to eat an entire pound of food. Yeah, I'll be here tomorrow. Don't worry. It's part

of my New Year's thing. I'm going to eat an entire three-quarter quarters pound serving of rice. That's what Chipotle does. Chipotle just serves rice. Hey, what's sodium? That's probably good for you, right? Yeah, sure.

I'm just going to have the same amount of food that pro wrestler Booker T advertised for hungry man TV dinners in the 1990s. Just a whole pound of food. But don't worry, there's lettuce. Yeah. Lettuce is fulfilling. To me, the question of Taco Bell versus Chipotle, it calls to mind that, that a human contains multitudes and who we are today is not necessarily who we

who we've always been and all that because like do it you know would I rather eat Chipotle okay yes if I'm speaking with like you know if I'm speaking with my mind yes okay fine Chipotle it seems like it's actual food it's it's good I think you could I think you could eat Chipotle several times a week and there are far worse things you But if we're talking about what would I rather do, like the idiot that I actually am, I mean, come on, man, I was, I raised my idiotic self on Taco Bell. It's too late to turn back now. I mean, I eat it several times a year and every time regret it. And every time, you know, every time just think I'm, I'm definitely going to do this again. I am, I am as stupid as I am. Nothing is going to change that. This is definitely going to happen again at some point. Chipotle, you know, has done a lot in the business field. Taco Bell successfully sells people cinnamon sugar air. That's a menu item.

That's basically a synod twist. You're buying air that's cinnamon sugar flavored. They sold that to you. They are the greatest company in the world, with the exception of Outback Steakhouse. Agreed. The order goes. Outback Steakhouse. Taco Bell

and then like that company Sega Sega Sega Sega Dreamcast division which is one man waiting

There's got to be like an official Sega Dreamcast Like Facebook page or something There's one programmer He's like He's like those soldiers Trapped on the Pacific Islands He doesn't know that the Dreamcast

Doesn't make games anymore There's like Yeah like what's how do you pronounce It Shenway Yeah Shenway yeah so like there's got to be like a shinway seven they're doing and like that was the original game that was like it was billed as like oh you can you can walk for like a year and not see the end of the city or whatever so like this one's got to be even bigger and it's just one dude doing all that yeah the fourth greatest company is that one that makes motorized coolers my question that i i do have another one i would like to ask this is very quick though because you can kind of just slam dunk it and run this is what i'm a about to do thank you lance smith at lance smith 25 said matt rule will win the big 12 before tom

herman i'm going to jump on that yes and just just exit the train going to happen bye you know what you know what i have no honest knowledge or opinion about this but lance you should screenshot this and if it happens buddy you called it dunk it dunk it also given Texas's recent history of working with talented people and all the resources in the world. Yeah, that rule is going to win the Big 12 before Tom Irman. Easily.

Don't ask how. It's just going to happen. I got a take. I got to take from Jordan Stewart Dear Burley Man on Twitter, watching an entire football game beginning to end is torture. I like this because

it's not watching an entire Big Ten game or... Nope. Alabama game or AFC South game, just football. Football is bad. If you sit through four hours of it, that's terrible. That's a strong take. I can't endorse it, but I can understand it.

It has more, it is a take that at first you read and you think that's preposterous. That's stupid. And then you marinate on a little bit. You're like, well, I do like that I can flip around and that I can sort of, you know, jump in, jump out. Eh, maybe. yeah there are a lot of games that I really not want to watch the full four hours of right like if I have been to a few of those if you take it literally like watching it from beginning to end okay so you're not looking away you're not looking at your phone you're not

flipping games you're watching like the Thursday night ACC of interesting punts locked in no looking at anything else that does not sound good if you're at the game maybe okay there's a drunk guy next to you who's being funny, I don't know, but yeah. If we're not applying any qualifiers to this, if it's just randomly selected your eyes

are locked on it like clockwork orange. FBS level, FBS versus FBS team game. Yeah, there's a good chance you're right. There's a good chance that those four hours are not all going to be entertaining and by the end of it, you will just

sort of want it to be done. That is unfortunate, but also, nobody, I mean, you don't live in a world where you have to do this. No. The nice thing about college football Saturday is that it is the world's best serving of appetizers. Like, it's the world's best past appetizers, of course. Like, you don't want the crab puffs. Guess what, buddy? We got canoley coming.

Look out. It's tortoise. It is. Yeah, that's right. It's tapas. Topas, that's the word. Taurus is a sandwich. Yeah, but you could have small tortoise

as a topos. You can have a little tortoise at your tapas place. And then top it with the canoli. Oh, Rikers! I would also say this. Don't trip on nostalgia. It used to be worse. It used to be way worse

because you might say, Oh, back in the days with Keith Jackson and Bud Wilkinson, calling football games, and just simplicity, not much in terms of camera angle distraction and all the foo for raw and hoot-nanny of modern media. It wasn't like that, man.

They were like three cameras. It was rough. You got nothing. You didn't even get all 22. There's like eight people on this crew. Yeah, good luck. That cameraman is just zaproitering it. He's looking for the guy.

He has no idea how to track him. It's way better than it used to be. remember the past is bad you want nothing to do with it the future is great embrace it um i'm going to use that to leapfrog to the next bold statement uh this is from at foster for prez go big or go home on twitter and i do want to give you a taste of uh this twitter user's bio because i think it's important to the question uh amongst other pertinent things to his his or her professional life uh foster for prez is a bud foster advocate and a hokey fanatic and that's important because does does bud foster need advocacy

is it is it a legal necessity maybe it's in the same way that like zoo animals do be like please don't feed the bud foster you know it's important that he may need to raise bud foster awareness we want we want bud foster to still our hope is that we can eventually release him back into the wilderness and if you feed him he loses his instincts to find food on his own if you see virginia tech's defensive coordinator eating out of your bird feeder do not interrupt him if he's cartwheeling shirtless through your backyard call someone that's why he's the lunchbox he can't figure out how to open it and they're just hoping one day like a one's gonna crack that sucker open and then that's when they know it's time to go back to the woods bud you're good

Like Harry and the Hendersons. All right. Here's Foster Corpres's statement. No college team that has yet to win a national title in football will ever win a national title in football. Now, can either of you name the last team, the most recent team that won its first claimed national championship? Was it BYU? No, there's been, I think, two since BYU. Colorado is second most recent.

Florida? Florida is the most recent. Yeah, that's right. After years of making fun of Florida football for not existing until 1996, it still surprises. Yeah, but since 1990, when Colorado did it, it's only been the two.

Everybody else who's had a turn on this carousel has already been there. And it is complicated by the fact that if we're talking about you know who's won a national championship that technically includes a lot of teams that technically includes Stanford technically includes Iowa um definitely includes ruckers so yeah i i feel i feel real safe saying that two of those three teams in a thousand years of play will never win the national title but well what about once football consolidates all the way back down to just Rutgers in Princeton.

Okay. Once that happens, then the answer is definitely, then the answer is definitely no. Because if we're just saying, if we're just saying starting today, if you don't have a national championship, you won't ever get one. I mean, Oregon is obviously the closest to cracking this particular nut most recently.

And while I think we are fine with where Oregon is right now, nobody's picking them to win the national championship next year. Right. Right. And there are some that in recent years, like Michigan State made the play. Well, Michigan State already has a title from many decades ago. So it's a very specific list. And the hokey thing is definitely relevant. Virginia Tech is on the short list of teams that have been in the discussion. Oregon probably is top on the list. I mean, let me just put it this way. Kentucky and Syracuse could play for the national. national title this year, hypothetically. And if either team won, that would not change this question. They both have one that they claim already.

Pitt Minnesota, that would not get us any closer. No. No. Although I will say this, that's cheating. Because the first school that I thought of was Minnesota, because Minnesota had a run. And that run was like, what, in the 30s? And if Minnesota won a title now, I'd consider it just as miraculous as. as, you know, or more miraculous than, like, you know, Oregon pulling off their first one.

Yeah, Minnesota's most recent of their seven claim titles is from 1960. So you're right. Yeah. It would be a thing, but that's what makes this a hard question that there are a lot of teams that could, you know, could come out of nowhere to win the national title over the next 10, 15 years, and it wouldn't be their first. there have been so many teams that have been one single game away from doing it that the probability for me is too appealing. So I think that the general point that our Bud Foster advocate wants to make, it's a good one because it shows that there's actually a really small number of teams who stand a good, great chance of competing for a national title. in terms of probability, I'll still reverse side it, because there are so many

teams, like West Virginia, West Virginia was so close in 2007, man. They were so close to playing for a national title. And they would have been hell to face. They would have been a nightmare for anyone preparing for them. And they were so close.

Let's not talk about what happened, just in case the tender ears of some scarred mountaineer fan who remembers what happened, happen to be tuned to this podcast. they lost a pit. They lost the They lost the Dave wants that pit. They lost a Dave wants it

with Steve Slatein and Pat White in the back field. Another that has That was probably like a 10-win pit team though, right? Yeah, sure, certainly. Sure, sure. If you like doubled it or so.

I'm trying to be kind, Ryan. Wisconsin's got to go on the list as well. They've been hovering right around that level for about. 20 or 30 years now Yeah More like 20 but Yeah

And I mean There are there are There are SEC teams that That haven't done it Which when you look at What could happen In a Nick Sabinless world Oh what a sweet dream

What a sweet dream that would be Who could just you know Bolt up and get there first It would be a moonshot kind of year But that happened It happens, especially when, I don't know, you pick up Cam Newton 2.0 and you line up your schedule just right, you could win a national title that you haven't claimed before. Like, that could happen. Is it, okay, here's the other question.

Is it easier or harder with a four-team playoff to get in, I mean, I guess it's easier because you just have the paths to entry are doubled, so the chances that you're going to get one of these teams is, significantly expanded, and probably, I mean, look, certain results notwithstanding from the last two years, if you can get to the playoff, you are, you should be good enough to, in theory, win the national championship, right? Yeah, but you have to beat not just one more talented team. You have to beat two. Right. Unless you're Alabama, in which case you really only have to beat one. Unless in case you just have to not fuck up.

which they never do ever we'll get to we'll get one more out of the way real quick since it's semi-related this is from Garrett Mueller at Mueller with two ones instead of L's on Twitter Michael Dyer was down yeah he was down

yeah speaking of Oregon Michael Dyer was actually down he was totally down Auburn ruins everything I don't think him being down I don't think that would have changed the outcome is the problem. He was down, Ryan. The spot was good. He was down.

Maybe you shouldn't got stuffed on fourth and goal from the one. I don't know. Matt, Matt Davison kicked the ball and it was an illegal play. Missouri won that game. Okay. That's right. Jabar Gaffney didn't catch the ball against Tennessee.

Nope. Nope. Wasn't a TD. Got away with it anyway, y'all. Woo-hoo. I would like to select this question which is

some desperate college football program this is from at books not works by the way Greg F some desperate college football program should bring in Jeff Fisher just for hilarity no man

no I don't need to watch that I don't You keep him in the NFL where he can be humorous. I don't need to see him come to college and run like some trash three tight end run offense that doesn't go anywhere and tries to play games to 10-7. Get that poison away from me. Not today, Satan. Not tomorrow.

Not any week. Not next month. Not next year. I feel like Desperate is the wrong adjective. It's almost like a sleep lock. Yeah. It's like a complete lack of debt. Like you should be more.

desperate than this well isn't this kind of what illinois is doing right now man kind of yeah i mean i mean they they have a coach who took a team to the super bowl did not win stuck around for a long time made it to his second team didn't work out there and now just sort of took a college job because he's a name and recruits and blah blah following the geography this means Jeff Fisher to Mizoo. You know what? It's not the worst idea. There are literally

worst ideas. Here's what I really like about that, though. You get Rams fans who are like, oh, thank God. Thank God the Rams left and took Jeff Fisher with them. The ones in St. Louis, that is. And then they have to turn around and watch and take over

Missou football. Ooh, man. Oh, man. Baba Duke! Babaduke with a mustache! So the whole thing would just be Jeff Fisher. It's like he shipped the Rams. Like he didn't even move with him. He just stays.

He's the transporter. Think about this. Jeff Fisher was an interim coach for the Rams. He's been an interim coach for like two franchises that moved. Like how much more can you say like undumpable? like spouse he's uh you know what he's he's a damn barnacle he's a witness relocation agent he gets you to your new city he makes sure you're set up got a new look got new friends new ties of the community all right moving along who's next

raiders raiders you're moving to las Vegas yeah this makes a lot of so the fish in Vegas he'd be a legend he'd wear sunglasses and people People would be like, man, he's got a rock and roll attitude. And Jeff Fisher just says shit. Like, no, it's bright. I hope Jeff Fisher tells strangers that he's Andy Reed. And they're just like, wow, you look great. Really slimed down, yeah.

Andy Reid tells people he's Jeff Fisher. And they're like, woo, you went to shit, boy. He's in Vegas laying down 7-9 straight every time. It's just a good man. Grave we're playing poker. Terrible blackjack. I'm a hold of man. Just waiting on this straight.

Hold, hold. You holding again? Oh, hold, hold. Man, if he gets what I think he should get, man, two sevens and two nines. Just waiting on it. How many times can this happen in a row? I think he's cheating, but in a very confusing way. I still, I cannot get over the fact that he said,

I'm not going fucking seven and nine and then got fired. My God. Got fired days after being extended. Yeah. The God. All right, let's stick on theme. This is from Ryan Sump at Ryan Sump. Nebraska wasn't dumb for firing Bo Pellini because they should expect more than beating non-con cupcakes and bad Big West teams.

So Bo Pellini, in his time at Nebraska, there's only one Big Ten team that he lost to three times, and that's Wisconsin. So he was not regularly getting his lunch handed to him. The problem was, there are only three Big Ten teams that he played and never lost to, and they were Penn State in the middle of some very troubling times, Illinois and Purdue. like Nebraska under Bo Polini was very good at collecting a scalp when they needed one, got to win over Ohio State, did some things against, you know, did some things against Michigan. They were also very good at, I don't know, losing to UCLA twice. So. So, yeah. And honestly, I don't know.

if I don't know if anyone else could do a better job there. It's very hard. It's very hard to get people to play there. It just is. And it's never been easy. And even when things were at their best. It's been easy with certain

NCAA setups. Yeah. If you tweak the sliders. If you get some, I don't know, prop players in, shall we put it? right and you get a system that is actually designed for teams that are trying to overcome personnel deficiencies and you get people who've been fed into it their whole life and you i don't know put

them on like the best weight program at the time and yeah you get it could be a pretty formidable machine especially when like also those the staffs they can go anywhere man they didn't get like if you're talking about like oh man coaching turnover is a real like that that creates real stress on how actually perform as a program. Yeah, guess what? No one left Nebraska. Like, Frank Solich, like, slept in the attic of their training facility for, like, I don't know, 15 years. It's also.

Everybody was there forever. I think in the back of every AD's mind at this point is they remember Mark Mangino at Kansas, Jim Levitt at USF. There was this time when, like, you could be a good football coach. But if he did certain things, and this just happened in Indiana, too. Like, there are some certain things that you can't do now that you probably could do 20, 30 years ago because it didn't get out and players didn't talk about it. And I don't think that's better, but it is different, certainly.

And Bo Polini, you know, there was nothing like that about him. But I think the fact that he was known for flying off the handle, known for maybe losing his cool in situations where he shouldn't have when recorders are running there was there there is definitely like a liability thing there not in a legal sense but just to like man any day i could wake up and find out oh shit bow said what fuck and you know what you don't have that problem with mike riley no no not not one bit so yeah i don't my official answer would be I don't know okay I don't know this is the hot takes up this is bold um all right you got another one I do have another one which this will be this will be local a very very local one all right um which is bold statement the new brave stadium spelled barbs the new barb stadium will make ATL a baseball city and marietta there's there's there's nothing in this sentence that makes any sense

at all. We had this discussion this week, John Boyes and I, about could we name players? And we actually said, no, neither of us can name a current brave. We were talking about just naming baseball players. We're like, hi, no, I don't know.

Like, does each of a row still play? Yeah. Freddie Freeman, right? Well, I didn't know. Does he play for the brave? I think he's a brave. I think Mark Waller's is still on the roster. Yeah, Steve Avery.

Steve, Steve, he's coming back. Paul Austin Mocker. Yeah, like, I think, and I said yes, he goes, oh man, Bartolo Colon. I was like, yeah, and we're like, yeah, but we still can't name a Brave. Bartolo Colon signed with the Braves this offseason. That's right. Oh, shit. Neither John or I did it.

And he's basically one of the only baseball players we know because he's fat. He's extremely fat. and he now plays for the Braves, which we had to look up. Well, he's fat, and he plays in the league that makes him swing, the bat. Yes. It's really the combination of those two, because usually when you get to Bartolo's state of age and disrepair, you're like, yeah, I'm not doing that anymore. Nope. Yeah.

The other thing about this, by the way, and I'm really fond of playing. pointing this up because they built it in the dumbest god damn place you could possibly build this like like the the dumbest all right they built it i believe at the intersection of 285 and 85 75 75 i'm sorry so 75 so it's the cumberland gallery area it's basically in a mall under an interstate i'm only slightly joking no no he's not even joking at all it may be like it may be 50 feet off of a gigantic interstate and about 300 feet away from another and it's next to a mall and the parking will be like the parking will be about 28 bucks a game they're like you should get there very early there's nowhere to park and the places around it will not let you park there

they're not even letting they're not even letting you charge for parking the parking will be the mall that's not a joke that's the plan um the through traffic is a neighborhood, an actual neighborhood. Like a pretty nice neighborhood where people did not pay to have like trashed brave fans driving through their lawns. Yeah, no one voted for this. No one voted for this. No, there was not a vote remember. At the range, loose cannon city councilmen somehow hijacked an entire county and a pro sports team is showing up. No one knows how. No one has any clue how this happened. The low, low price of what was touted as $400 million.

And then later they were like, ah, it was $622 million. Oh, we forgot to that tip. Shit. Yeah, we don't need parks. Yeah. I believe that's the plan is just like, fuck parks. Yeah. No public transit to a pro sport stadium.

We got Bartoluc alone. This is the Bartah. I didn't know we got Barton. When I say we, I mean the city. I don't mean the Braves. Fuck the Braves. I didn't know Bartolo was a resident. That's good to know.

It's so fat, man. Do you think he was fat in New York? Man, that stadium is like three minutes away from airlo market. Bartolo is going to blossom. More like air balloon market. Yeah. Yeah. So if that's going to happen, yeah, sure.

Sure, that's totally going to happen. This is an ATL United podcast. All hail. You know, the footy mob will never die. Braves, we don't know you. We have one pro sports team, and it is United. God, God, the Hawks can't catch a fucking break. No, you know why?

It's not. It's not. They got Dwight Howard. Well, that's why. Yeah. We tried to tell them not to do this. No, the Hawks are still cool. The Hawks are still cool.

They built a perfectly likable team. Guess who they got? A gigantic, brilliant cancer. sir they got they got like the most brilliant post defender and like one of the best big man of his time who just doesn't make anything better makes everyone hate him and then flexes his perfect shoulder muscles Dwight Howard's got two things he's got physical gifts to make him a probably first ballot hall of famer in the NBA two he's got a terrible attitude that apparently is right in there with like perfect shoulder muscles I'm gonna I'm gonna just

bring all this up to Prater tomorrow and see what he's says he's going to be like oh he's right i don't i don't think any of this is considered incorrect okay cool um this is an this is an NBA podcast in major league baseball yep we we are experts we are you know what we're just as expert on those sports as we are college football yep fuck it don't ask what spencer went to monster trucks on sunday i did i did i wrote like i wrote 4000 words about it today actually yeah yeah yeah elena was thrilled we both sure she was i wrote like 800 words spencer did a lot more work than i did i went no yeah i went to like i just no i just use words

way less efficiently and like ended with some morbid meditation on cities and mortality it's great uh yeah i didn't get into that stuff um all right let's let's really take it off the rails here at cupy cup our good oh boy the toaster is the most trash kitchen appliance I like toasters I like if I'm making a sandwich and the question is

do I want toasted bread or do I want floppy bread? I don't know why I would ever go toast non-toasted unless I'm in a hurry So the toaster is a one note tool Right.

Unless you get real creative. I've seen some cool shit. And the toaster oven is not. But I think the toaster oven is more trash than the toaster. Because the toaster only does one thing. But most of the time, and not all the time, it can do it pretty reliably. Every toaster's different. You've kind of got to learn.

Hot spots. Do I need to put it in a second time? 1.8. Whatever. Toaster oven, I have had maybe one good toaster oven experience for every five times that I was like, this shit doesn't fucking work, and it might burn my house down. But the most trash kitchen appliance, I'm going to be real snobby here. Coffee maker.

That's a broad range of tools, though. The coffee maker? Yeah, do we include the curate? Is it just the old school? I mean the drip coffee, drip coffee maker, the most trash kitchen appliance. I, you know what, I'm going to accept that as like a pretty solid case because there are a lot of other ways that will make the proper amount of coffee. Usually when I had a drip maker, I would end up making like way too much. And half the time making like a horrendous mess and making this like awful breeding ground for bacteria in my kitchen.

No, man, yeah, no, I, that's a good call. In fact, like, if I want toast, toast is just unnecessary. The drip coffee maker makes things like unnecessarily complicated. Toaster, relatively inoffensive. You know what? The toaster is the best way to have toast. Like, you can do it other ways. That's what I'm talking about.

But the toaster is the best way to do it. The drip coffee maker is one of the worst ways to have coffee. Get a tea kettle, get a metal French press, have good coffee. I will fight you. So I'm 30 years old, and I have never actually used a drip coffee maker. I've just somehow avoided that task, and at this point, we'll probably make it all the way through to the pearly gates without ever having used it. For our younger listeners, what all does the process entail here? All right, so you're going to, standard drip coffee maker, you're going to need three things.

water, coffee grounds, and a coffee filter. You're going to place the coffee filter in the upper basket type receptacle, and then you're going to put your coffee grounds in. You're going to fill the coffee pot with as much water as you plan on making, and that usually gets poured in the back in a reservoir. That water will heat up. It will get sort of dropped over the coffee grounds goes through a piping system and it will you know infuse itself with coffee come through the filter filter obviously keeps the grounds from coming through with it and boom you've got gas station quality coffee in the convenience of your own home no matter no matter what you do by the way yeah gas station quality there is no way to make it better than gas station quality

you can only make it worse like there's somebody out there who knows the special blend like yeah you just put in more coffee here's how you know drip coffee makers the most trash kitchen appliance

go on YouTube and see all the other dumb shit people make with people make brownies people make omelets people make mac and like people have spent time and energy figuring out what the fuck else to do with this thing that is just supposed to be good at one thing and fucking sucks at it.

Meanwhile, Toaster, all you do is push one button and it works. That's right. That's right. Yeah, that's fine. I mean, Toaster's just like a heating element. I got nothing against like a heating element. It's pretty honest. Man, listen. Three words. Brave little toaster. That's, thank you. Where's the brave little drip coffee maker? Nowhere. Because that glass caraf fucking broke. I'm so mad right now. I'm sorry. All right. Please, somebody pick a new quest.

New statement. I got one from colleague Billy Gamilla. I do not, all caps, believe the three of y'all could take a wolf. To be clear, the three of you versus one wolf taking the wolf. Billy, we're going to take you. Then we're going to take a wolf, just to prove a point. Brother, listen. Brother, you've been kind.

You've supported us. Right now, I'm going to have to, you know what? I'm going to strip down naked on all four. I'm on tack you like a wolf and show you show you the meaning of shame this was a Rick Rood speech but then it got then it got all kinds of like I don't know

who's who's that like that's a oh my god I did a Bray Wyatt speech that looked like Ray Wyatt right now Lichanthropic yeah that's a Bray Wyatt speech so so a wolf this comes from Aryan Foster

getting pretty bored in the off season and pointing the finger at any of you wolves out there who want some um there are three of us i mean we can sacrifice any one of us and the other two could just pin the animal down until i mean goes to sleep or something spencer already explained how we're going to do this and it's one of the most selfless things he's ever thank you spencer it actually is it actually is the first selfless thing i have ever done in my life theoretically which is the attack is i am going to take my left arm and we're we're just

giving this to the wolf okay it's gonna hurt it's gonna be bad but I'm going to take the most dangerous part of the wolf out of the game by putting my my big old beefy left arm right in his mouth so with that taken I can go and

immediately go to work on the eyes and the throat then then Jason while I'm screaming can jump in an attempt to an attempt to double up on the neck. I'll put them in the rear naked. Yeah, no, I think it's a perfect approach.

No, I'll put them in the Bob back one. That's what I'm doing. Can you DDT a wolf? If you did. I'm sure that's going on a, I'm sure that was on a t-shirt in like 2004. I'm just saying, if you DDT a wolf and we get it on tape, we will have met Vox Media's company-wide video goals for the next year and a half. If I'm dressed like Arne Anderson, right down to the close-shaped beard and like wearing the like like like at one point arne anderson there's a clip of him he shows up to a match with hogan on like zero notice because somebody else canceled and he shows up and pleaded shorts with a belt if i if i did you do a wolf and pleaded shorts in a belt yeah man we we win we've got every video metric and goal down the problematic video of

a wolf being dd explained 18,000 think pieces, and I'm the world's biggest asshole and fired. And Fox is like, we're buying bus feed. I've been told that the actual, like, special forces or whatever method for dealing with a rabbit dog or a dog canine attack or whatever, it is... I know this, yeah. It's you offer the arm. It's like what Spencer is actually saying. If you have a code or something, you whip it off and wrap it around the arm as quickly as you can and you just present the arm to the dog, like bait.

And then you reach up and clench as hard as you can on the throat and you just wrench it. See, I told you. We got a plan. We got this, brother. Billy, you don't have. I know you're, you sick your biggest, bad as wolf on us. Do your, don't please don't do that. From Louisiana. Billy knows, Billy knows a tiger.

Oh, no. The LSU Florida rivalry has gone too far. By the way, he'll get drunk and get confused. And that's how we get a tiger sick on us at a tailgate. fortunately like he literally literally hold that tiger we will not defeat a tiger exactly they'll be like well

listen since Peter said we can't have one anymore we got an extra one he's just hanging out this ain't this ain't a tiger this is a colleague this exactly this is a friend an esteemed loyal colleague from Louisiana State University

I have a question from Matthew Filari. Hockey is the best sport to experience live and in person. Couldn't tell you. So I'm not clear on the why he had to say live and in person because I have not watched a lot of tape delayed hockey in person. I think he was emphasizing that you're definitely in the place. Maybe we're emphasizing, but yeah, thanks.

We're in the building. this is pretty close to correct i think it's not i don't think it's as good as a really really good football game in the right atmosphere um or for that matter a really really good basketball game in the right atmosphere i think just because like it's hockey live is very hard at least i have found it's very hard to sort of keep track of what's going on because the buck really fucking small and it moves really fucking fast and the game can sort of move quickly and you like you don't have as much time to appreciate the slow building of things that even in basketball when you watch a fast break or you know a buzzer beater there is sort of that time where you can

track the very short story that you're watching happen unfold and hockey doesn't always happen that way that said the sound of what happens in hockey skates and sticks and guys crashing into Plexiglass is actually, I think, the most pleasant auditory experience you can have at a game, live, in person. They're real good. Like, it's a really, really, really, really great experience live. And it's very difficult to beat. I will say if you can get to a soccer match between two teams that really, really hate each

other, that's right there. like it's it because because they'll actually harm each other like I mean actual harm right and that's sick and that's wrong and it really does make the viewing experience better because it's incredible it's hockey is the biggest gulf between being there in person and watching it on TV oh yeah like a band with a bad producer man like it's just it's not it's not even close you have to see it live the only time it gets even remotely approximate to the live experience during the playoffs when you've got Doc Emrick screaming at you the entire time and the teams and the fans are just like amped to the point where even even the difficulties of presenting it on TV are overcome by the energy it's a really it's an insane the other thing that is really I don't know if it good is the word but that it doesn't really quite translate is if you go to like any kind of UFC or boxing match because nothing happens and then suddenly like everything happens at once

and everyone there is waiting and hoping someone gets their ass kicked it is the most sinister feeling you will ever experience in a sporting event sitting around people who are like yeah I hope I see you get fucked up like that's and you're like yeah get it man I hope I see a man

almost die not die almost die no there's people in the crowd who are like you're going to knock his head off I don't care I can, I'll Instagram it. Like, there's people at boxing matches and UFC fights who were, like, ready to do that. Let's try to do a couple more. All right, I'll rip this stupid Band-Aid off.

Do it. Rusty Shackleford at T. Hoff 62. Bill Murray sucks. He might personally, man. like I mean I like I don't know in his divorce trial it was alleged that like he had actually hit his wife that was never

substantiated to he can't substantiate it but like yeah that could have happened man personally he could be kind of a shit bag he also has a reputation I think in New York and probably in L.A. too of like if you if you're throwing a big party he might just show up

and people have decided that that's cool and good because Bill Murray is a fun guy in there they've said that's also like maybe not maybe not okay it's sort of on the line um if we're just talking about bill murray the entertainer he has he did do the garfield films i think we have to acknowledge that oh let's oh we can we can go back there's that fucking one where he it's this artsy shit where he's like meeting all his old girlfriends or whatever and half the movie is just him driving between their houses?

I do not know this film right. No, yeah, that's, um, no, I'm gonna find it. That's, uh, something about flowers or something. Uh, it's not the razor's edge, is it? No, the razor's edge is, is the one that he actually did Ghostbusters. Right. In order to do. And the Razors Edge is also not very good.

It's not very good at all. Yeah. Like, not, it's kind of, it's not like a great book to start with. And then the adaptation. really doesn't do it any favors um yeah he did rock the casbah if you haven't seen rock the casbah don't it's it's terrible he did that in 2015 man it was bad call yeah there is i mean there is definitely a thing where either we or bill murray or both we all realize like hey you know what's good about bill murray just a little sprinkle of them like yeah kingpin

pin is good because there's just a little ernie mccracken um wild things well things well he's really good in wild things but that's because there's only a little bit of them yeah that he's he's perfect he's in what he's a corrupt lawyer yeah ideal uh royal tenant bombs he's really good in that but just a little just a little bit here and there fantastic it like saved his career with rushmore by basically being kind of like a bitter drunk middle age man kind of a kind of a kind of a stretch

really for Bill Murray at that point in his life I mean he's great so what is the statement that we're working with here Bill Murray sucks is the statement I don't think we got you can't go that far I don't know that true Bill Murray Bill Murray the entertainer

can suck Bill Murray the person unverified I suspect he could right yeah but as an entertainer I think he is has done more positive or more enjoyable than unenjoyable or at least it outweighs it so there's a lot you can

ignore also like i i i mentioned the one bill murray movie that i've seen that i didn't like but there's probably 40 that i just chose not to see and that is not i don't hold those against bill murray so so um hide park new york is where franklinelano roosevelt um where his home is his former home. It's now a, you know, museum. And you can go on tours and say, hey, here's where he sat and did this thing. And look, this thing that this emperor or king gave him. Hooray. And most of the time, these tours are very much, they're pretty, you know, flat. They're not really trying to rock any boats. But I've been on this tour. And the tour guide talked specifically about Hyde Park

on Hudson, the movie in which Bill Murray plays FDR. Yeah. And this tour guy, this federal employee of the National Park Service, savaged Bill Murray. He just couldn't believe how bad

he was and how bad this film was. So like, yeah, Bill Murray, he can throw up a brick. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, the great salt I agree. Bill Maury can suck. I don't think maybe he sucks overall is where we necessarily want to go with that. That's a preposterous position to say. I'll ride with him and the

Budweiser. And things of that nature. I'll ride with him in the Budweiser bathing trunks in a Houston backyard. Getting ready to take a dive off the high dive with a glass of scotch and a cigarette in his hand and brush more. That's that's iconic. That's free Wes Anderson Tweed overload West Anderson. that's that's quality right there um you want me to end with one that that we'll all have a lot easier time with yeah yeah yeah let's do it this is from justin at drifter 1717 ruckers will have at least three big 10 wins this year they do get to play michigan state