Shutdown Fullcast - Shutdown Fullcast 4.7.0
Episode Date: March 16, 2016The Shutdown Fullcast returns this week with the following content provided to you during a season where there is ABSOLUTELY NO FOOTBALL CONTENT. We're basically magicians because a.) we make things a...ppear out of nowhere, and b.) we're often awkward at parties, just like real magicians. Topics include: --The auspicious beginnings of the Will Muschamp era at South Carolina --Two stories Bun B told us for free, including the time he was in a situation so bad that Suge Knight showing up was GOOD news --A note of admiration for the genius who invented Blue Raspberry, the zone read of plays --What to do when Purdue gets into your bloodstream --Ryan speaks for several minutes in Ben Carson's voice, which he turns out to be pretty good at --A question so heinous the clearest and safest answer is "Bob Davie" --There's a school named "Moon Area", which isn't a question but is an important observation --A terrifying realization that Charlie Weis WILL coach Rutgers one day Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to the shutdown fullcast.
Welcome to Alare, Fullcast.
God damn it.
You got to talk over the intro, son?
Yeah.
I'm just, I just feel like we are, we're never going to be the best college football podcast in the U.S.
But we can, by translating into other languages, we can be, I don't know, like Canada's best college football podcast or France's.
So I'm just trying to help that along.
Bienvenu at the shutdown fullback
Well that's a video show
That doesn't exist anymore
See this is unfair
Because we were just talking about
Will Must champ
Now y'all are speaking French
We all know he does not speak Italian
That's true
He might speak Spanish
Be'am
Did he speak it like this
Bienvenito
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Olive Garden
Olive Farms
Cotorse
Cotorce
Cotorce
Poncho
in french in french that's puncho i do i do believe that will muschamp counts in french though oh god damn
damn it why didn't any of us think to make our drug lord name el puncho
el punch oh you just did i'm gonna change much with her name right now god damn
shod pen's gonna be called you within the hour listen you know you know what a drug a drug
a drug ring run by will must champ really can't move the product all that well
It can do a real good job at defending its territory, but...
I don't think it's a drug ring.
It's just like a drug line.
We're just trying to run out the clock on the statute of limitations.
Can you just, can you get this bail of Coke 20 feet across the street?
I can pun it.
It's tough.
We can pun it.
That's it.
What we do is we set it here and we trick the federalis into confiscating it and running it back the other way.
And then, well, that's the end of the plan.
Much like a failed drug lord, he has constant turnover at his second in command position.
Oh, and, you know, we'll probably only have about two to four years of glory.
And any one stop.
And also he just recently escaped Florida and found religion.
That seems to be a pretty key former quote marks drug lord thing.
Like a lot of drug lords, had to hide out on the run in Alabama for a while.
No one found him.
Now he's back close to the water again.
Close to the water, man.
Listen, it's hard.
You can't defend the tides, right?
You can shut down my boats.
You can shut down my helicopters.
You can watch the highways.
But the tides, man, ain't a cop yet.
It arrested the tide.
Now his mascot is literally a fighting chicken.
An illegal, an illegal fighting bird.
Which is illegal.
this is all coming together boys
I do want to mention a note about spring practice
because spring practice started we do have like a little bit of football
pulse just little little dots here and there right
like Leonard Fournett wasn't there practice at LSU
no big deal though they went and did the big cat drill
without them you know that means LSU will release their you know
Oklahoma drill the video everybody gets every single year
and goes oh they hitting then but the note I really
wanted to start with was the result of the first play at South Carolina spring practice under
Will Mustchamp.
First play ever in the Will Must Champ, Mustamp administration.
Ryan Nanny, what happened?
Perry Orth, quarterback of the future, putative starter, decided it was time to throw the
ball.
And he decided it was time to throw the ball to somebody on his team, which is easy at
spring practice because the defense counts too.
And that's how Will Must Champ's South Carolina tenure officially started with a pick six.
Thank you to Rick Johnson on Twitter for alerting us.
He already has a question of whether he should stick with his love for his alma mater
or abandoned Big Dumb Will Must Champ football.
Gosh, I certainly wouldn't know what to tell you since there was a stretch where I watched
two and a half Florida games over, I don't know, the span of two and a half years.
so that was fun.
We have two very different takes on how to handle this.
Once you've got this infestation,
you can either burn the house down and run away
or you can just sit in it.
I recommend Banda.
If you can just put on some of Mexico's most festive music,
sit back and enjoy the absurdity of life's rich pageant.
I think that...
One do, three,
It only goes up to four because that's how many wins you're shooting for.
Yeah, yeah.
So we need to rewind a little bit here.
I'm Spencer Hall.
Editorial Director of SB Nation and founder of Every Day should be Saturday,
joining me from Brooklyn and advising people to abandon the school that nurtured them at their breast.
Ryan Nanny.
No, I'm Spencer Hall.
That website said so.
That's true.
that website you were the same people
also same person
Spencer Hall in Kennesaw, Georgia
formerly known as Jason Kirk, college
football editor at SB
Nation. Say hi Jason.
Welcome to the
shutdown forecast. I'm Spencer
Hall. That's good.
That's good. I'm impressed.
Welcome.
I had to introduce
myself last
in this panel that I did at South by
Southwest this weekend, which is going to
I swear this leads to a good story.
So I had to introduce,
Robert Brown, I had to introduce
Lena Bergeron, I had to introduce
Bumani Jones, and then I had to
introduce Bernard
Freeman. You may know
Bernard Freeman under another name. He is
Bun B. He is half of the Underground Kings,
a K-a-U-G-K. He is
a Southern rap god, a lecturer
at Rice University, a writer for
vice.com, and politics, and
just kind of an all-around
legend, which is a really cool
thing to be next to
because when you introduce yourself next, you say
this. I'm Spencer Hall and I'm
totally irrelevant here. Totally
irrelevant in this calculation.
And everyone laughs because
it's totally true.
This is Bunby and
I'm no one. Well, let's begin.
But I did get two good Bunby
stories, okay?
Two. Are you ready for these? Yes.
Okay. The first
that Bunby and Pimsy were both on big pimping, right?
This was their big national sort of breakthrough when Jay-Z had them on the song,
the Timbaland-produced song.
That's a big moment for them.
The story before, though, was that Pimpsey was supposed to be on another J-Z song,
and they got most of it, Pimsy was a little reluctant,
and finally Jay goes, okay, cool.
you can, I'm Jay-Z, I'm the biggest rapper in the world,
you can come up to New York and record this song.
And Pimsy's reaction verbatim was,
from motherfucking what?
Why don't you come down to Texas and record this song?
He wouldn't leave.
He wouldn't go up and record this song with Jay-Z.
So that's why he wasn't on that song.
I feel like this is why UGK is sort of the aspirational soundtrack.
theme of this podcast.
If we could ever afford theme music,
it would probably be UGK for that reason.
Like, oh man, you guys could get a big
studio and record in New York for motherfucking
what?
Why don't you come down here
to short Texas and do this here?
The second story
that I got was
this. That
the 95 source awards,
which, Jason, if you would,
as our most
southern rap contributor at the moment,
What happened at those 95 source awards?
This was the height of the, well, not the height of the east-west rivalry,
because, of course, that happened a little bit later on,
but when it was at a high boiling point and the South,
due to outcast and the highly overlooked these days, Goody Mob was barging in on that,
and Andre 3000 took the stage to say the South got something to say
and was booed throughout.
Yes.
So someone, because we asked for questions at the end,
decided this was a sports question, which I didn't object to.
By the way, this was asked, this dude asked two questions.
He cheated.
The first was, how is Old Miss getting recruits?
To which both me and Beaumani were like,
no, we can discuss that afterwards.
We don't want to, we really don't want to explain why or how Old Miss is getting recruits.
So we dodged that one.
Then the second one was, was this.
He said, you know, like, what was it like at the 95 source?
awards like how did that change things and bun said he was there and he said that there's only one
environment that he's been at that was nastier or more hostile and that was a trump rally he said it had
the exact same mass sort of terror to it right and he thought they were going to die he thought
they were going to be lucky to get out of there alive so they will go to a party afterwards and this
tells you how bad it must have been because they were really sort of worried about getting out of there
and then the Death Row crew showed up like 200 deep
and they were like oh cool we got somebody to fight with
like how bad is it when Shug Knight shows up
and you go oh okay we're safe
who two box
two box friends who are all named after dictators are here
everything's fine now
everything's great
death row records
Hussein immortal or whatever is here
everything's cool now
yeah we're we're great guys
this is all going to go out well
Why hasn't Shug Knight
shown up at a Trump rally, though?
Foxy Brown endorsed him today.
That's a...
Wait, what?
Yeah, Foxy Brown is a...
That's her contribution to the news cycle for this decade.
I bet that's because, like,
Lil Kim endorsed Ted Cruz, and she just...
Those two just can't get along.
I think this means, like,
Nikki Minaj claimed Hillary early on or something like that.
Faith Evans.
Faith Evans quietly.
Faith Evans quietly clings to that Rubio endorsement, just quietly.
This is the most respect I've ever had for Rubio.
You making that up just now?
Pretty much, yeah.
Suddenly I'm like, oh, maybe he's not so bad.
Go Gators.
So the Trump rally and the Sorcerer, two things they had in common.
The South had something to say both times.
Of course, they were extremely different things.
Extremely different things.
Back then they were good.
Now they're pretty bad.
Just different.
It's just different.
Yeah.
If you're a Trump voter listening to this podcast, don't admit it.
Don't tell us.
Keep listening, though, by all means.
The other thing that was very entertaining on this panel was saying the words Vince Young in Texas and watching the crowd go,
just tearing up a little bit.
Oh, God.
Very, very proud, very proud people who, when you mince Vince Young, they're like,
That man is a saint.
If you say Texas quarterback Vince Young three times, he appears out of nowhere,
and he gets to finish whatever's on your plate.
He might.
He's bigger now.
I think if you say Texas quarterback, they're like wincing.
Oh, it's a roller coaster of emotions.
You say Vince Young, I feel like they're immediately on guard.
Like, watch your fucking mouth, boy.
Let me hear it.
Let me hear Vince or Colt.
I only want to hear Vince or Colt.
That's it.
I will say that that's one of the least racist things about Texas.
they ride for both just as hard.
Yeah.
Right?
You would assume that there was this, you know, split into like,
Vince and Colt camp.
Nope.
You don't talk shit about either of them.
Neither of them.
You're like, well, what about Colt?
You're beautiful.
What about Colt?
The Garden of Eden was just Vince and Colt, having a great time.
Then Garrett Gilbert came along and tempted them with fruit.
You're like, okay, you're like, okay, can I make fun of case, McCoy?
And they're like, yeah, you can make fun of case.
Go ahead.
It's Vincent Colt, not Vince and Case.
That's how God intended it.
It's how God intended it.
But when they gave birth to the perfect longhorn.
It's also a little weird talking about Mac Brown there because there's this,
you can see the visual conflict in somebody, right?
When you go, well, Mac Brown, and they're like, oh, Dad did so much for us,
and then he screwed up the will.
Well, it's like a country that's recently deposed a dictator,
but things are like really not going well in terms of infrastructure.
There's a part of them is like, I don't know.
We can go get the statue out of storage.
We can get this thing going again.
The streetlights did stay on under his tenure.
The trades ran on time.
They just didn't run to a national championship game.
They just kind of ran over people.
Do you miss Chairman Mao?
Well, not exactly, but you know, on certain days.
He said some beautiful things.
he was a man he was hot he was radioactive but he was always there he had so many ideas
my presence is my presence kiss my ass kiss my ass um yeah that that was that was very
entertaining so i figured that's now that we've covered everything that went on the last weekend
or in the world period because there's very little going on at this point i do i do want to
I do want to, this is not about football, but I do want to drop in a special note for our D.C. listeners who are without public transit tomorrow when they are possibly listening to this podcast. My recommendation, because your commute is going to be much longer, possibly on foot or in traffic, just slow the audio on this down to half speed. It will make Spencer and Jason sound like Greek gods proclaiming your doom, and I'll sound like a normal.
man. So, Spencer, since they don't have public transit, does that mean you and I are the most
qualified people to tell them how to go about their daily business? Oh, oh, yes, you are. Mere lowly
Atlanta's, Atlanta Georgians are qualified to tell people from Washington, D.C., what choices
to make? I've already, by the way. Why, what a turn of events. I've already said this.
I'm not saying shit about this. I'm not saying one word, because the minute I do,
Atlanta's going to pull out some kind of, some kind of malodorous, horrible, toxic, like, Trump card that I'm not even anticipating just to show D.C. what's up.
How the fuck the night storm shuts you down in March?
Wait, like, by malodorous Trump card, do you mean, like, moving a baseball stadium to a place where it will ensure terrible traffic jams go on even longer and longer than they currently do?
Yes.
I'm just plunking it literally on an interstate with no transit whatsoever because local racists are afraid it will bring too many demographics.
I think, yeah, those demographics.
He hate demographics.
No, I think something like, I don't know, like tomorrow morning a truck full, like a tanker truck full of Liquid Jolly Rancher overturns on 75, 85.
At the same time, a cattle truck overturns, and, like, they get stuck in the hardening, like, jolly rancher liquid, and then ants come, and then...
Oh, no, it's blue raspberry. Kirby's already lost control of the state. Florida's already winning.
The CDC is right there.
Yeah, so, like, a truck with a bowl of spills, right?
The so-so-deaf sign right outside of Hart's Field, that's already gone, replaced with a young money cash money sign.
And so after that, it really can't get much worse, so bring it on.
And then throughout all this, like, Kirby Smart loses a recruit to, like, you know,
horror ball or something.
I am very proud.
And I'm very proud.
And I'm some, by the way, this is the Trump card here.
And I mean literally Trump card.
Some, like, AK-47 toting goatee wearing dumb ass sizes his civil liberty to take an AK
onto a southwest flight shuts down the whole airport.
Tadda.
There, we did it.
We did it.
I am very proud.
How does that not happen?
I'm very proud of whoever invented blue raspberry
because they fucked up at work.
And they, rather than admitting the fuck up,
they took the product to their boss.
And they said, this is the raspberry product you asked for, sir or ma'am.
And sir or ma'am said,
raspberries are not blue.
And they said, this time they are.
And it works.
No, that's how the Zone Reed was invented.
It's a blue raspberry of place, remember?
The guy pulled it out of the belly,
and Roderica asked him,
Hey, what are you doing?
He goes, I was reading the end.
No, you were.
No, no.
You just forgot to hand it off.
He just fucked up.
And that's how you created, like, the most influential, like, offensive play of the last 10 years.
Probably 15.
But that's, that's, like, I admire him for that as well.
I think what we have since we've covered pretty much everything that happened in the known universe,
except for Bunby wanting brisket sliders before, and we didn't have time to get him brisket sliders
because they were, like, 10 minutes, and it takes longer to cook.
And he's like, that's cool.
fat, I'll live.
Just remember, you can say that
your personal life, it'll sound real cool.
I'm fat, I'll live, it's fine.
The only things that we have
left, I think, would
be to answer the deep and sincere
questions offered to us
by our listeners.
And we have some good ones tonight
because Ryan actually asked us
about personal crisis.
And some people actually wrote
in with very personal
questions. This one is not, I want to start
with it because it is somewhat relevant to
the news of the day. That would be
from at Cheney's
Twits.
It's awkward. He lists himself
as emotional support. Support turkey though.
Yeah. He lists himself
as an emotional support turkey, which I
support.
Is there a better supporting
event than the start of the NCAA
tourney? If so,
what is it? And you're wrong.
I think that you're
casting seeds upon fallow
soil here because
I will state for me personally
I'm just
I'm baffled by college basketball
but you don't like
passing in a circle
for like 40 seconds
not big on it no
also I don't like indoor sports
much I really don't the NBA is different
because it's at night and I'm like you're tired
that's surprising
what about pro wrestling
Spencer
pro wrestling is
an exception to this rule you caught me
I like to think that they're out
To be fair, it's an all-weather sport
And I guess what you're saying is that Memphis Grizzlies
Games should take place
Outdoors on like some sort of dirt track
Memphis Grizzlies
The backyard rasslin of basketball
They are the ECW of basketball
Easily
With just as many injuries
The team most likely to jump off a roof onto a box of light bulbs
Go on down to the drag races
Watch you some Memphis Grizzlies
With basketball in between
Like the only
basketball team that has figure eight school bus demolition derbies happening on the court during
the game. By the way, the grizzlies are like completely injured now and it's totally not
surprising. That also fits the theme of outdoor backyard wrestling. Exactly. You're like Matt Barnes,
yeah, he went through the table too hard. He hurt his back. He's injured. Mark Gasol caught a chair
the wrong way. He's got to sit down for a bit. But yeah, I'm not, this is, you've caught me on a
couple of exceptions but generally I don't like indoor sports very much and I don't really
understand college basketball because for a college football fan if you're super intense about it
it kind of starts in the like tail end of the season and you miss a bunch of stuff and some of the
games don't count you're like oh they're playing on an aircraft carrier okay they're playing in
hawaii oh look they're playing um in the middle of a memphis grizzlies basketball game right
like there are all these weird games and then suddenly duke and carolina play twice and then
okay we'll just play a bunch of games in like you know a month
like in three weeks
yeah and then someone wins the conference
and then they do a tournament to see who wins the conference
can I present the counter argument for
I think we're all coming at this from the wrong angle
that angle is that we work in sports
so that that's happened before by the way
yeah um
we all work in sports so for us to turn on the television
on Thursday in the middle of the day
and watch anything sports really
is in no way an act of rebellion or some sort of special treat.
Most major sporting events are specifically designed so they take place when people
in the continental U.S. are not working.
Baseball series, the World Series is at night, the NBA finals are at night,
Super Bowls on a Sunday, etc.
But the opening of the NCAA tournament takes place during the day on Thursday and Friday,
and they are so popular because of office pools in part that it's basically, it's like the closest thing you'll get to having recess at your job.
And that's why, that is why they are special in a way that other very wonderful sporting events are not.
Because, like, you could, yeah, you could watch the Popeye's bowl in the middle of your workday, but that just makes you a shitty employee.
It's like totally, you know, there will be some stupid article that will come out that talks about the billions of dollars of productivity that are lost because of the NCAA tournament.
And all that means to me is you should definitely watch or you will be the person who's stuck with all of that work.
Like there's a small core people who don't care about college basketball and they're fucking themselves over because they're doing all the work that the rest of us are shirking.
well we have too much productivity anyway that's true that is america's problem classically i mean
productivity's been flat for like 60 years so let's not get too excited about like the productive
class getting a break hey evidently they've been taking a break for 60 years that's a that's a good
segue for this question from hammer and rails SB nations Purdue blog I renew oh god you're
you're really going to do this one are you I renewed my Purdue football season tickets again
every year since
1987, please help.
No!
No, you're beyond help.
1987, a child born in 1987
is rapidly approaching
30 years old.
And if that child has been
to every Purdue
game
in his or her life,
like what's the peak, Ben?
Losing a Rose Bowl.
They lost a Rose Bowl.
Been to a Rose Bowl.
They went 8 and 4 and went to a Rose Bowl.
That was a real thing that happened.
I like all those records of old, uh, the Rose Bowl used to have.
Somehow the Rose Bowl just always used to have awful teams
or have like three big 10 teams tied and one of them is just like,
no, no, you go, you go, you haven't been in a while.
I know you were seven and two.
It's your turn.
It's more of a potluck.
Yeah, I don't, I don't know to tell somebody he's been doing that since 1987.
I assume that, like, somebody's been doing the same drug since 1987, you really shouldn't not renew, because taking that out of your bloodstream could be very bad for you physically.
Oh, you think you're not ready for that.
Yeah.
No, no, you get, no, I don't want an Amy Winehouse situation.
We need to ease you off this, okay?
Oh, it's like the bends.
Like, you can't just come up for air all of a sudden.
Your body has already absorbed the Purdue.
The Purdue bubbles are in your blood at this point.
Yeah, you don't want that.
By the way, in case you wonder, like, you're like, oh, maybe they, I've been doing it since.
1987. Like, maybe there was some good times, right? No, no, no, no. I'm going to give you this.
Purdue didn't win more than four games until 1997. That means he renewed for 10 years before that and stuck through a 1 and 10 season in 1993.
Well, hold on. In 1994, they went 4, 5, and 2.
They tied twice.
But one of those games was adjusted to, to, to, to, to, to,
win, I believe.
By the NCAA.
Did they just like lose track of a beat on the abacus?
So given enough time, all Purdue losses eventually become wins.
I mean, if you want to know what a brilliant coach Joe Tiller was, go back and look at every other Purdue coach.
Yeah, he's, wow.
Just go look, it's bad.
It's real bad.
I mean, you renewed your tickets after having one six games.
in the last three years six six you hired a man named hope yeah you know that's not you know
that's not good so jane hope not even hope worked joe tiller went to ten bowl games every other
peru coach combined seven jason kirk just put that on your headstone peru football not even hope
worked for you i think my favorite produce season though i'm gonna go all the way back to 1906 and
1907. They go
0 and 5 with a man named
M.E. With him. And then
they go 0 and 5 with a new coach,
L.C. Turner.
Me with them. Me with them.
We're town together.
Do you have a question,
Jason, by the way? Oh, thank God.
We're not talking about it. Yeah. No, I'm done.
Produce making me not want
to talk about this sport.
We've got to quit.
Let's see. A good one
from Craig Evers on Twitter.
Which presidential candidate will make for the most awkward sports championship visits to the White House?
We're going to have a new president soon, one who is, I think we're guaranteed to have a president who's less charismatic and suave and, you know, looks like, you know, comfortable around people, I guess we could say.
So it's almost guaranteed to get rapidly more awkward.
A lot of directions we could go here.
What do we think?
My initial inclination is Bernie Sanders.
Well, let's say, yeah, but now that Ben Carson's out of the race.
Ben Carson was absolutely the best answer to this question.
Ben Carson would have just lost interest.
So what is it you boys do?
Are you here for?
Ben Carson would just leave.
Are you here for lunch?
sure you all want to go to there in space museum this is an excellent ben carson i know i'm still
i'm still convinced he's just a a tim and eric character who broke contain
i like to play a little football too got my got my paper football right here you want to uh flick it
around that is a really good ben carson like i don't know if it's actually like this podcast is now
Ryan does Ben Carson
about 55 minutes.
Ben Carson wandering kind of lost around.
I think Ben Carson must be one of the worlds truly
like, strangest people, and that's why he was a neurosurgeon
because he said, I got to crack one of these open and see how it works.
Seems to me we should...
I've got to see how these work for most people,
because I've taken a look at mine, and it's not all that interesting.
Seems to me we should just let the ladies use the regular foot locker.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah, Ben Carson would have been the best answer to this question.
But I think Bernie Sanders, like, Bernie Sanders, his, like, I don't know that Bernie Sanders can just do, like, sort of chummy congratulatoryness.
I think he's, first of all, he's that relative who always wants to, you know, talk about the state of the world.
Like, he can't really do casual, you know?
And that's fine.
That's not a knock on him.
Everything is going to go from one to ten immediately.
Like everything has to be about Wall Street.
Right, right.
Yeah, like, I think it'd be kind of fun because Bernie'd get mad militant, like, real fast.
Right.
They'll be like Alabama won 13 games in conference play this year.
13% of Americans can't put food on the table.
Behind me are students who went to college without paying too attention.
Why is it that the rest of America cannot do this just as?
He'd mentioned Nick Saban's salary.
$6 million.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Get the hell out of my White House, sir.
Do you know that these players...
You give that money to the walk-on.
Roll-tide.
We had walk-ons once.
It was called a chain gang.
The Trail of Tears were walk-ons, weren't they?
Yeah.
Okay.
That's the answer to that one.
It's Bernie Sanders.
I feel like John Casey's just...
good one too because he's yeah i guess he feels like the most personable normal human in the whole
bunch he's so not normal in it relatively this is highly highly relative here um but the thing about him
is if alabama's making visits every year he's going to remind him you know we we beat you that one year
didn't we and and donald trump would just talk shit about you like in a way where you're
not sure if he's making fun of you or not yeah well i mean maybe maybe like
the offensive line jumps him or something.
Maybe.
They got the best of everything, just all the best people, all the best players.
They're just great.
They're so great.
We love them in that game.
Didn't we love them in that game?
You know, I talked to Lick Sabin last night.
He said he loves what I do.
I thought that was a very great thing for him to say.
Sabin's never heard of this man before.
I want to ask this question, which is from,
Richard Johnson at Rod J.U.F.
I'm not quite sure if Young Metro, trust me, please advise.
If you don't know, this comes from a phrase,
Future is fond of saying to open his tracks,
which is if Young Metro, his producer, Metro Booman,
does not trust you, then I will shoot you.
You know what happened when this question was put to Ben Carson, right?
Not to go back to Ben Carson immediately.
No, we can go, no, no, no, no, no, no.
So, Complex asked when on, was on the campaign trail when Ben Carson was still in the race,
and they asked, the last question they asked, and they asked them mostly substantive stuff,
but they said, um, they said, we want you to sort of finish this lyric.
If young Metro don't trust you, and he said, in Ben Carson way, well, you, uh, you have to
dialogue with Mr. Metro and figure out
how to earn his trust.
So that's our starting point here.
For Richard is, we'll start with the good doctor's advice.
I mean, I'm not a successful neurosurge and you go with whatever Ben Carson said.
That means the man knows more about ancient Egypt than all of us combined.
I've never been played by Cuba Gooding Jr.
My hands are not gifted.
The same man is playing Ben Carson,
and O.J. Simpson.
Playing is a real strong word.
He's doing a lot of running.
I don't know how much running he did in the
Ben Carson movie.
In his underwear with the gun.
Why is this doctor running?
Cuey gutting, Jr., by the way.
It looks like he hasn't slept in seven years.
Well, that's why they call me the juice.
Ben Carson
Ben Carson plays everything
If you have
If you have not watched the OJ miniseries by the way
You must watch the OJ miniseries
If only
If only for John Travolta and David Schwimmer
Because both of them have found the role of their lifetimes
Respectively
John Travolta as
Robert Shapiro
And
David Schwimmer as Robert
Kardashian
because David Schwimmer is Robert
Kardashian. Oh, just
hang dog and
realizes that
events are completely
out of his control from the word
go. It's great.
Also, you can
watch Nathan Lane say the N-word.
So there's that.
He looks like he's having a lot of fun saying it to
like a little too much fun. He does.
That's true. Yeah.
Yeah, that's not cool. Nathan
I know it's in the script man
But you don't have to look like you're really enjoying it
It's kind of perverse
Well the good thing is he's not singing it
We don't see the outtakes
Maybe he did
I mean he's already he's already done a Millbrook's show before
So
So yeah
Which is uh yeah
Do we need to do we need to say it this many times
An hour of that
Okay time for the next question right?
Please
Yes
next i have one more which is um yeah from at chuck underscore daniels underscore
to us asking do i stay at the small private liberal arts university that i guess he's at
or does he uproot and transfer to the state school he grew up loving go we have we have two
questions like this by the way and i want to answer both of them because one's more specific
but i uh now jason you attended one one university right
it was not small private liberal anything that would suggest it was a quality education no it was a large public utility university
large dumb 13th grade university yes go owls go else the universities that ryan attended he went to law school
at NYU and then look how that worked out and in a contrast attended undergrad at a large public school
the University of Florida.
Okay.
And I attended two public schools.
I attended University of Florida and then Georgia Tech for grad school for international affairs,
which obviously so helps me in my everyday existence.
What would you...
You went to Turkey once.
I did go to...
Hey, dude.
I went to Myanmar.
So I'm just doing my tour of...
You went to Mexico.
You went to Mexico.
Yeah, that's true.
I'm doing a tour of the world's...
You went to Idaho.
Least passport-friendly places.
really you went to talhassy i did too if you had to ask me which one's nicer bianmar
tallahassee it's tallahassee but not by much that that hurts even worse making it sound like
a dilemma that hurts even worse than just saying it's bianmar it was it was a horse race and
and one just won by just a lip flap simon wins again this win is the real the real dig yeah
and i'm not really joking telehass is bad i mostly like it
because I imagine people from Myanmar coming to a Florida State game
and watching the Tomahawk Flaming Spear get thrown into the turf
and just saying, well, that's tasteless.
Yeah, I'm going to get on Twitter about this.
So what would you, what would your advice be, Ryan?
As somebody who attended the spectrum, the full spectrum.
I mean, so I'm assuming, for, I'm making some assumptions
because the limits of Twitter, we can't really delve into the full details here.
But I'm assuming this is for undergraduate education.
I am also assuming that going to the state school, even if you are not an in-state student,
will be cheaper than going to your current liberal arts private school.
And I'm going to say, like, the dollar thing is just pretty easy here.
If you're not going to somewhere for like a highly specialized, highly recognized program for an undergrad education, I got bad news, man.
Bachelors is a bachelors.
It's not really worth, I have certain members of my family who have made this decision in the other direction.
And it's horrifying to think that you might get out of school with a marketing degree.
and have a $130,000 worth of student debt.
Like, that's a hell of an albatross you just hung around your own damn neck.
So I would say, if it's cheaper, go to that state school and enjoy yourself.
You'll be fine.
Yeah, I would advise that as well.
That was going to be my advice, because I would say unless it's one of the following schools
in terms of being small and private, unless it's Yale.
notice I'm not saying Harvard
no you skipped right over Harvard because fuck Harvard
I wouldn't have even led with you but go ahead
well I was going to say you've already paid for half that
you might as well like
from 100 to 200,000 let's go
yeah
Stanford
unless it's Stanford because I'm just the weather
the weather's nice don't leave
you know maybe you'll see Andrew luck
he might just visit and say
Hello.
Hey, guys.
Hi.
Hey.
Hey, which way is the football stadium?
I can't remember.
Do you guys want to play Catan?
Yeah.
That's, have you seen my horse?
Those are all so real.
Because Andrew Luck might say any one of those and it's entirely plausible.
Unless it's that or Stanford.
Actually, take you all off.
Unless you're going to Stanford, man.
Yeah.
Yeah, do it.
It sounded like several to just.
like just one it's just
I thought about weather wise
you don't want to is there an I that we put on
for like is there I hated on Ivy
that we
that we would defend in this case
I like dark
hell yeah dart rise up
yeah they turn up
they party that's fine
you're out the wood you're out of the woods you can ski
plus it's the most badass name
dartmouth they call me
dartmouth god
that sounds fratty as hell
Come on, bro
We're going to play some dartmouth
It is the most
It is like by far the most fratty
Ivy too
So
I want to play Cornell
Fuck you
Well
Chris hasn't used
Dartmouth as like a pun
For oral sex yet
Yeah
Like if you're at Brown transfer
Even if you don't want to
Just
Am I currently at Brown transfer
Yep
Just yeah
Leave dude
You go to Kansas State now
Congratulations
Yeah
Why don't you go to App State
Man
If you want to have like a good
four years
I'm talking AFU transfer.
A good four years to graduate.
But I'm already a junior.
Go to App State.
I mean, do you know what everybody who goes to like Arizona State from like a small private school thinks?
They're like, I've made mistakes in life that I'm not here learning nothing and enjoying my life.
Talk to Stephen Godfrey about that.
Talk to Stephen Godfrey about that.
But yeah, that would be my advice as well.
Do we have one final question to close us out here?
Sure.
This is from Emperor of Orange
At Orange Emperor on Twitter
Which of the living
Former Notre Dame head coaches
George O'Leary counts
Can fix Rutgers
So, man
Brian Kelly
I mean
I wouldn't
Breaking news
Shit
Now former Notre Dame
Head coach Brian Kelly
So we're just doing
former Notre Dame coaches?
Yeah, living.
Living former Notre Dame.
So, Charlie Weiss,
Ty Willing.
Hey.
Well, Lou Holtz is, I guess, alive,
but I skipped over one,
which is the coach who has taken
New Mexico to a bowl.
I'm going all in on that one.
Yeah, that's the only suggestion I have.
Bob Davy.
I can think of
like a hundred worse choices than Bob Davy.
I mean, he's from Pennsylvania, so he'll recruit.
Because he's got deep ties.
Uh-huh.
Oh, okay.
I would like, I would like to tell you the name of Bob Davies High School.
Moon, as in the thing in the sky, area.
Moon Area High School.
That's his name that because we used to go out there and look up at the moon in that area.
I think it's named that because Tom Davy's an, he's an alien.
I'm from Moon Area.
Hello, I am from Moon Area High School.
I mean, like, same.
Like, in the galactic sense, we're all from Moon Area.
Can I give another, though, suggestion that if they were going to hire, like, Charlie Weiss would be a delight for me if he got hired by Rutgers.
Oh, if the, if the FBS program that is in one of the worst financial shapes decided to sign Charlie Weiss to.
one of his traditionally
you know
responsible contracts
eight years
four point two million dollars a year
we could have Charlie Weiss
Chris Christie best friends
I also like this because
then when
Skynet eventually
terminates the human race
the robots will talk amongst each other
be like yeah you know
Judgment Day was three years ago
but Rutgers is still paying Charlie Weiss
also he'd go there
and just be he'd pull all of that
like Jersey bullshit like
I'm a son of, I'm a son of the place, you know, I understand, you know.
Gabagool, hey.
Born in the United States of America.
Yeah, he'd wear a sweatshirt, you know.
He'd eat hot press sandwiches.
He'd have a bad attitude.
And they'd be like, oh, we love you.
You're just Jersey as hell.
They could really like him.
That might happen.
They might really like him.
His career records 41 and 49, which that would probably be an improvement.
Thank you.