Shutdown Fullcast - Shutdown Fullcast 7.21 - Josh Rosen Transfers To BYU

Episode Date: September 7, 2017

Texas A&M didn't just ruin their own year; they ruined our ability to do a review of Week 1. So this episode starts with two Florida fans moaning about their terrible counterfeit prescription drug of ...a team, moves on to a discussion of Iowa-Iowa State ending with one team making ten field goals, explains how Tennessee is like Darth Vader, wishes UNC luck against Lamar Jackson, and shows you how Pitt needs to lose to itself to make the Playoff. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the shutdown fullcast. That's why we're late. Typically during the season, you'll hear this college football podcast on Sundays. And then you'll hear it usually on like Wednesday, Thursday. And what happened this week? We had Labor Day. It's a holiday. No, what happened this week is you were a coward.
Starting point is 00:00:19 We had a holiday, Ryan. Okay, sure. What I think is Florida got its ass handed to it. looked like oh i don't know let's conservatively say the 120 second offense in the nation because that's where they rank right now and you were too afraid you were too afraid to talk about it there's a hole in your there's a hole in your theory yeah about to stick my dirty finger through it and that's this wow what's what's new about that shit buddy so what's what actually happened was we plan to record on sunday night we said soon as these two sunday night
Starting point is 00:01:00 games and we'll we'll hop in the booth um and and then the aggies went and generated news that had to be turned into content um so got got a little busy with having to uh having to put things on the website the aggies broke broke this podcast uh in the first episode of the season let's just play a quick game let's just get the florida mission game out of the way vastly um i'm going to name a team and you tell me if they have rushed for more yards on the season than Florida or not, okay? I'm just going to jump around here. We're going to play this rapid fire.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Spencer, you're answering all of these. Colorado. Yes. Temple. Yes. Vanderbilt. Yes. Purdue.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Yes. South Carolina. Yes. Kent State. No. Akron. Yes. Florida Atlantic.
Starting point is 00:01:57 No. Indiana. Yes. The answer is yes to all of them. Florida is last in the nation with 11 rushing yards this season. Wow. Just for everybody. Oh, why are Spencer and Ryan always so fucking whining about Florida won all these national titles and has Heismunds and 11.
Starting point is 00:02:18 11 rushing yards this season. Bottom of the list. All right? We can continue. Yeah. I think our stance. You should just know this up front. I'm going to say it now.
Starting point is 00:02:31 We're recording this on September 6, 2017, and I'm going to base this exclusively on my rules, which my rules of human behavior, which are that you have to function in light, not against these, not with these rules, but sort of against them, right? The best way to predict what people are doing is to look at their examples of mistakes in their past.
Starting point is 00:02:53 They will continue to make these mistakes, and they will learn nothing. No one ever learns anything, and they repeat the same mistakes over and over and over again people do not change they do not improve what's florida's offense been the last two years right two two but two i'm just we're we're limiting this to the jim macklewain era because they're the people who said that they can fix this right sure um let's see florida doesn't have a steady quarterback situation uh can't keep an offensive line healthy or unified or talented enough to keep a quarterback or
Starting point is 00:03:27 a running back healthy and productive has no passing downfield passing game to really speak of which is even more frustrating because like three plays a game they'll throw a deep pass that works and you're like oh shit here it comes nope that was a lie that were that those were the four drops of rain that made you think the drought was ending and it's not um entirely depends on defensive turnovers and big special teams play to win or lose a game um and it's just boring just just just It's not fun. It's incredibly not fun. In 2015, Jim McAween's first year on the job?
Starting point is 00:04:06 Yeah. 100th in scoring offense. 100. I mean, you can just look at week one, and you can look at the, like, Florida lost, right? And that's fine. I don't care that Florida lost to Michigan. Michigan's a better team, better coached, has probably recruited better and less. All of these things are fine.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Lots of other teams lost. Like, Indiana lost. That game was close until it wasn't, which sounds a lot like the Florida Michigan game. Indiana was a hell of a lot more fun to watch than Florida. Mm-hmm. So was Purdue. Purdue was a hell of a lot more fun to watch than Florida.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Arkansas State was a lot more fun to watch against Nebraska. They lost. You know what? They lost bravely. Oh, in 2016, 107th in total offense. in terms of in terms of scoring offense they were 107th
Starting point is 00:04:59 so but using my rules they're already done that's done it's coaching staff's done I just they're talking about Florida for no I just I just want to I would like to get that
Starting point is 00:05:14 I would like to get that on the record so they're done this won't improve they won't get better Jim McAwayn will fail at Florida and an offensive coach was brought in to fix a problem he cannot fix because he's not capable of it. And also, if you, if you, year two, David Wonderlook on Twitter wrote a great breakdown
Starting point is 00:05:31 of what went wrong against Michigan. Michigan's great. They're going to have an awesome year, y'all. They're a great football program. They have confidence in their players. If you watch the mistakes that were made on offense, they are not ones of scheme. They're ones of execution. And they're ones that are made by people with a lot of experience, which if you watch
Starting point is 00:05:52 over and over again, you go, these people don't care what they're being told. They don't trust it. They don't trust their coaches. They don't like their coaches. Like nothing. None of this is working at any point. So, and I don't need that. I'm not even thin slicing here.
Starting point is 00:06:08 You're basing off two years of zero improvement or ability to develop offensive players. Bye. This is over. It's crap. I don't want to watch it. All right. I'm going to watch it. Gator talk is over.
Starting point is 00:06:18 I know this is technically week two preview. because, again, Spencer is scared and we didn't get a chance to talk about week one. Let's just, like, get all this out. Week one, everybody overreacts to. Every year we say, why did we overreact to it? But what week one really is, is it's the first day of school. And the first day of school, your goal is not, like, nobody walks out and says and does something so cool or so amazing that you're like, oh, man, everybody loves you now. The first day of school is about avoiding disaster.
Starting point is 00:06:51 It's about not accidentally sitting on a burrito in the lunchroom so that you have burrito all over your jeans. And then that's what you, your burrito ass for the rest of the year. That's what week one is about. Just don't do that. So like, Washington, did you look great against Rutgers? No. But ultimately, you didn't sit in the burrito. Texas A&M?
Starting point is 00:07:13 Texas. Baylor? Yeah, y'all, y'all just, ah. beans all over that all over that denim all over and m they were like they didn't just sit in it i think texas and balear sat in it a and m they were like standing up on the lunch table people were chanting their name um right you know they had on they had on the greatest new shoes in the whole place like you know that that's that's like one way you can impress in week one you know you walk in with the didas boosts and hey that's like that's like beating texas that's like you know does that kid
Starting point is 00:07:45 have a pimp cane oh my god yeah oh my God, he's standing on the lunch table with a pimp cane, and he's got a sideline DJ, and he's chewing a lot of cool gum, and we just put up this weekend, a shot in a Freud, brought that back, and found a lot of Aggies who are unhappy about Kevin Sumlin chewing gum. Apparently, that is a big contentious issue, and they think that contributed to the defensive collapse and the inability to call run plays. But, like, it's a big time thing. They do not like, he's chewing on food, and he ain't swallowing it. I don't trust it. But you're chewing the cool of gum and everyone loves it. And then you like belly flop onto the burrito.
Starting point is 00:08:23 He looks like a cow chewing a cud and we're Aggies. We're supposed to be controlling the cows, not becoming them. This is against, that's against nature. I just want to slaughter him and turn him into brisket. That's a complaint from like 70 years ago, right? That's like a complaint about like those kids hanging down at the soda shop. Texas, Texas A&M, the Singapore of college football. It's like if you see.
Starting point is 00:08:46 like Idaho's coach wearing a visor or something wearing a hat indoors. No good son of a bitch. I wouldn't be surprised if the L leader started caning each other. So this all fence. I know which school had a member of their core,
Starting point is 00:09:02 the Aggie Corps, pull a sword on a rival. That's true. And there's no one else in the SEC pulled that. Okay? They weren't in conference when they did it. Spiritually, if you doubt that they're in their proper home, pulled a sword. I can't get, I can't get any more like, you know, honor code bullshit than that.
Starting point is 00:09:20 It is appropriate that on the same week that Texas legalized open carry swords, two Texas teams at home, A&M was on the road, both committed ritual Sepaku. So that was fun. That was good. Hey, who defended state of Texas? I just want to, I want to put this out there. TCU. Texas.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Tech. Dude, TCU and Texas Tech are most freakish Texas teams. They gave up a combined 10 point. TTE played defense. We were calling them for them to lose to an FCS team. Hey, who's that quarterback for TCU? White, why did you do? That'd be Mr. September Heisman himself.
Starting point is 00:10:08 That would be Texas A&M's Kenny Hill. Kennelled Hill. Kenrith Hill. I could use that guy. That's what we're saying. I'm, you know, I just like pointing out painful things, painful, obvious things that I can point to, so that people feel as badly as I do about their football team. How did Kyle Allen do in week one for Houston?
Starting point is 00:10:31 Or Houston hasn't played yet, has it? Houston hasn't played, yeah, Houston, Houston, Houston got... Kyle Allen has not grown 14 incompletions in the second half of a game in which he was winning by many as 34 points. He hasn't done that. It's time to talk about week two. Week one is dead. Long live week one.
Starting point is 00:10:51 If you emerge from it unscathed, great. If, like we mentioned, you emerge from it scathed better than you thought you would be. Hello, Purdue Boilermakers. Good for you. But we're done with it now. And we're moving on to week two, which is, uh, it's fine. It exists. It's dense.
Starting point is 00:11:12 It is. It's a real granola bar of a week where you're like, yeah. I'm going to eat this because I think it's good for me, and it's got everything I need, and it's going to back me up for a little bit, and that's okay. I think this week is the salad bar where you start with, oh, okay, I'm technically eating. You know, I'm eating some let's, that's the Thursday night. There are technically mobile games, you know. Then Friday in the early slate is, all right, let's continue eating the basics.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Then pick up toward the end, and then by the end, this damn packed primetime spot. That's when you just give up and you're just eating mac and cheese and biscuits like your plates of that. Yeah. There's... For Oklahoma, Ohio State,
Starting point is 00:11:52 Georgia, Notre Dame, and Clemson, Auburn. There's some good sushi on this menu, but you're going to get, you're going to have to drink a lot of miso soup before you get to it. A lot. Yeah, there's a,
Starting point is 00:12:02 there's a weird, there's a weird thing the chef just sort of sent out on a whim that you kind of regret getting. That's Friday night. Friday night you get Oklahoma State at South Alabama? At.
Starting point is 00:12:14 South. Yeah. Sure. Yep. Sure. Like one of the country's best offenses and a Power 5 program just heading down to Mobile because college football is secretly a distribution system for Mexican steroids hustled through the Mobile port. I don't know. I'm trying to come up with answers, y'all.
Starting point is 00:12:39 And this is not helping. Yeah. It's okay if you skip Thursday, Friday. You have our permission. it's completely okay although I might you know I'm a degenerate I will watch Ohio at Purdue because that seems like I like
Starting point is 00:12:55 watching Purdue now because Jeff Brom's their coach and they have a will to live and then they they want to score points I find that novel so I'll probably watch that even though it's on if it's 1 at 8 p.m. on a Friday yes Saturday at noon there's a lot you can skip here too
Starting point is 00:13:15 I will say I'm Can I start playing the Can I start Can I start playing the trumpet fanfare that accompanies this? Go for it. Go for it.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Two teams enter. Two teams leave. Elasico. That's good. this is this is some of the best audio you've ever contributed to this program I want the matador music where it's just two matadors and no bull that's hell assico
Starting point is 00:13:56 two guys two guys of capes to each other aren't they brothers shut up this is a fierce rivalry they hate these these two matadors hate each other what happens when they play actual what happens when they play bulls
Starting point is 00:14:13 oh it's not good not great Let's start with our first Fearless Week 2 prediction from Eric Van Horn at Van Horn. Eric Al-Assico will hit the over. Do either of you, I know, but I'm going to ask you, do either of you know what the over-under for this game is? 12. Okay, good, good guests, strong guess. You know what, I was about to make fun of you, but that's a really good prediction.
Starting point is 00:14:40 I'm going to say that the over for this game is 38. It's 48 and a half. I'm only off by 10.5. It's 48 and a half. Iowa State scored 42 points to beat Northern Iowa, week one. Even though they only outgained UNI by 27 yards, they won the turnover battle, three to one. They were fine. I mean, they rushed for less than four yards of carry.
Starting point is 00:15:14 That's not great. And then you take Iowa, who beat Wyoming 24 to 3. They did so. If you didn't watch that, by the way, and you probably didn't, I'll fill you in. I would look like Iowa, man. They just, they, this is a, I'm actually like pretty, pretty optimistic about their chances all over the board because they look real ugly. Quarterback play was at time shaky. they ran the ball and they uh they just beat the hell out of wyoming on defense so playing like
Starting point is 00:15:53 two coverages so in other words i will back baby so can we get to 48 and a half points between these two teams what is the ugliest score that could make both teams look disappointing and unhappy to get to the over yeah to get to 49 points i think it would be um 29, 21. Now that looks close and interesting. 3217. I'll lay on that. I just think a 30 to 19 game looks awful because there's multiple field goals.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Some like a safety in there. Yeah, there's some missed two point conversion. Yeah. I mean 30, that's 10 field goals. Only Jason is thinking of this the right way. Iowa fan, if you're listening and you're filling out your complaint form, we do have, as we mentioned, every time we make fun of Iowa on this program, we have for years now, we have renewed our license to make fun of Iowa on the internet. I know it says on the documentation that only you are allowed to do that. You roast your football program day and night, and then whenever someone else joins in, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:14 it's a big hassle, but we do have clearance, and we will show you the documentation upon request. That's true. Also, you wave to the kids at the kids' hospital right over the side. That's like a thing you all do now. That's great. You're awesome. Yeah, that's good people.
Starting point is 00:17:29 We're going to roast your program. It's going to happen. We do this to everybody. We do this to our own programs. Yeah. Without own number. Did you hear a Twitter talk to open the program? Did y'all not hear those seven minutes of gator talk?
Starting point is 00:17:41 I'm considering considering these two teams played each other. whether not that long ago, I'm way higher on Iowa than I am on Florida. Yeah, and Florida won. God. Well, I don't know if we're licensed to say Iowa lost the football game. We're not. We have to, you have to wait, um, it's like, it's like copyright law. You have to wait 20 years or something and then you can talk about it.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Then it becomes, you know, open source, very, you can fair use of other legal terms that I'm not using correctly. It's fine. Oh, Wikimedia Commons. That Iowa loss We can't Basically we can't use it for commercial purposes And I say that because It's time to talk about Dollar Shave
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Starting point is 00:20:18 You don't have to watch any of it. Sorry, we can continue. Ryan, good job again. My favorite part of that was when you said as a shaver, because it made me think of when people say like, as a man, this doesn't sit well with me. You know, like, as a mother,
Starting point is 00:20:35 I don't like the weather outside. As a gamer. It's about ethics and shaving journalism. I vape, you vape and you shave. That's it. You're a vapor and a shaver. I'm a clean shaven vapor. They call me baby face vape.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Um, yeah. Speaking of vape, can I transition from vaping? Seamlessly, go. Yeah, I'm going to do it. Pit, Penn State. Who? Pit and Penn State. We got a lot of people who are making bold predictions.
Starting point is 00:21:10 We got Pete Haverns. at Pete Havern, a week after Youngstown State, after taking them to OT, Pitt is going to beat Penn State and Happy Valley. We got a lot of people saying Pitt's going to win this game again, get right back in the playoff. I don't know about, I just don't know. I think if Penn State wants to go undefeated the rest of the way, they have to lose this game. Yeah, I think that's right. I think I think this is the year Pitt and Penn State like Freaky Friday and trade roles. And by the end of the season, people are like, well, Penn State can't be in the
Starting point is 00:21:44 playoff. And we're like, yeah, but they did beat Pitt. So. Exactly. No good team goes to the national title without tussling with Pitt. We're going to get, yeah. So, and why can't that be Pitt, you know? Why can't it be Pitt that loses to Pitt and therefore earns a place in the national,
Starting point is 00:22:04 in the national playoff? You see what I mean? It's existential. I think I could lose to pit before, yeah. Right, but not this season. Chris Gates is on, man. I think this is true. Also, I enjoy the style of football that Pitt plays where if they lose this game, right, after, or if they win this game, after being taken to OT by Youngstown State, it makes perfect sense.
Starting point is 00:22:25 I'm just like, I don't know, they were feeling especially pity that day. Then they felt a little less pit, and they beat Penn State. Then they felt super pity, and they lost to, like, Wake Forest or something. It all makes sense. I can make Pitt do whatever I want to in college football. And that's one of the reasons I adore them. This from Run the Draw podcast at Run the Draw on Twitter. South Carolina and Missouri combined for 130 points.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Is this possible? Well, anyone gets a score on Missouri. That's true. Missouri gave up last week 43 points to Missouri State. By the time we hit the half, the score was Missouri 48. Missouri State 35. So anyone who wants to make a Will Mush champ joke here, South Carolina put 35 on a good North Carolina State defensive front.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Do you know how many things? Missouri's defense is better than NC states. There is quite a body of evidence to the contrary. Do you know how many yards Missouri wound up with in this game? 800. 815, you were under. I said 800. So that's what's amazing.
Starting point is 00:23:40 That's what's amazing about this game is that is Drew Locke throws for 500 yards, 521 yards and seven touchdowns. They run for another almost 300 yards and three touchdowns. They were just clicking. But the defense was so bad or so inconsequential maybe that Drewlock is the only Missouri passer who threw a pass in this game because they had to leave the starters in far longer than they should have against Missouri State because this defense is not very. Very good. Gave up 10.1 yards a pass. Just, oh, okay. I look forward to it.
Starting point is 00:24:19 I look forward to South Carolina and Missouri becoming the offensive champions of the SEC East. I'm fine with it. I've come to terms that this is the world we live in, and I can't do anything to change it. Hmm. I would like to, I would like to go to another matter of math.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Can we put it that way? A matter of large numbers. Yeah. This is from at Scott Allen Johnson, aka Go Big Rev. Let's see. He calls for tears, joy and regret. Also, Oregon will exceed 600 yards of total offense.
Starting point is 00:24:53 If you look at your window, you will see a nervous Husker fan. Well, if that's the case, I'm calling the cops. Someone from Nebraska is looking at my window. That's creepy. I'm in Georgia. It means it's a vagrant. And or, you know, Scott Frost.
Starting point is 00:25:06 It's Bill Callahan. It's Bill Callahan, all right? He's lonely. I'm Tom it's Tom Osborne just an old wintergreen looking for a friend no I'm I'm I'm actually 600 yards now you need to know Oregon I know it's against a bad team okay but Oregon put up 703 on southern Utah which means they wanted to prove a point they were they were gonna they were gonna put some work down and they did and like three almost 350 yards rushing they uh they were ran the hell out of the ball, which is probably music to Oregon fans' ears after what had happened the last couple of years to their run attack? Yeah, they ran the daylights out of it. And Nebraska really, another sort of quiet game fell under the radar a little bit, but Arkansas State had them on the ropes for quite a while.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Yeah, they got out game. They got out game by Arkansas State. Nebraska had 463 yards of offense. the Arkansas State well Red Wolf's 497 so yeah they no then they took it to the wire like this was a last minute affair where you know Mike Riley was wow how it shucks that was a crazy game afterwards which was a Nebraska fan I'm like why you're smiling I know we won and now they're gonna face
Starting point is 00:26:28 Oregon and Royce Freeman again in his seventh year of eligibility putting up numbers adult numbers which he should He's over 21 at this point. Well over 21. Yeah, I don't see this not happening. This could be ugly. They might be able to score for a while. The Oregon's a little bit deeper.
Starting point is 00:26:48 So you're probably looking at like, oh, I don't know. It's like one of those 53, 52 games. Sure. Just call it that. Because I would say that Oregon's defense is still an unknown quantity. The Brady Hook's still there. You know, you're not just going to get it all out in one off season. leaving the doors and the windows open.
Starting point is 00:27:07 That's not how it works. Is that an antibiotic thing, or is it kind of like a homeopathy treatment? You know, treatments vary from state to state. The man travels and his patterns are erratic. And yes, we probably should talk about Tennessee's defense or lack there of at some point, but not today. No, no, no. I want to talk about another one. That'd be Jared Whitworth.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Witt 34? Witt underscore 34. Don't get confused with Witt 34. That guy sucks. That bastard. Jared Whitworth. I'm a UNC fan. Buddy.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Oh, no doubt in my mind. Lamar Jackson has 500 total yards of offense. Again, in bets, I will not Riverside. I would not bet against that. Because, again, rewind to another game. You might have slept on that I really do want to point out. The University of California, Berkeley, went to Chapel Hill
Starting point is 00:28:06 and they beat North Carolina 3530 Yeah, the perpetually rebuilding golden bears Like I don't even know I mean they're in like a rebuild Of a rebuild of a rebuild at this point Right?
Starting point is 00:28:20 Well, they have all of those They have all those Nobel Prize winners on staff Who specialize in quantum mechanics And you know how a team can either rebuild Or they can be built, right? Cal is basically one of those um like a dentist office that's clearly in a former pizza hut where you can sort of see the outside and you're like oh that used to be a pizza hut what is it pediatric dentistry huh
Starting point is 00:28:46 okay it's like near us there is a restaurant that took over a bank and they have this one room that it still looks like a vault and they it's called lockdown barbecue which it's pretty cute that's the best yeah you can go sit in the bank vault and like you know there's actually Like, it's done up to look like you're in jail or whatever. But I just always think about, okay, so when they leave, they're just going to turn this back into a bank. That's Cal. Just, it's constantly being remolded back into whatever it was that seemed like it might
Starting point is 00:29:16 have worked like four years ago. I just like that Cal Safe Space went to North Carolina and won. That's pretty funny. This funeral home used to be a discovery zone. That's why we got all the tunnels. It's weird, isn't it? Yeah. Kids love it down there.
Starting point is 00:29:31 It's amazing. They've got these great refrigerators. for a cool day. You can just lie at them. Yeah, I was going to say that Cal is the object that can occupy two spaces at once. It's the particle that can appear like over here in the rebuilding universe, but then simultaneously over in the built universe and you're never sure where it's going to pop up. So, yeah, the quantum football program, that's Cal.
Starting point is 00:29:51 The quantum football program, their quarterback, Ross Bowers, he had 363 through the air. What do you think Lamar Jackson's going to do to you? Yeah. It's also not good because Cal last year, it looks like, only held Utah and UCLA at the end of the year to 30 points or less. Everybody else, most teams far exceeded that. So UNC, you may be in for a very unpleasant stretch here. Yeah. I would like to. I would like to go ahead and while establishing that the floor for UNC, just due to being UNC, when it's low and it falls out, it's real low. You got basement under basement and turns of the bottom there. I want to talk about a team that could easily, easily, like, like they could also slide.
Starting point is 00:30:53 It could go real fast if they're not careful. I hope I know who you're going to say, but I don't think I do. Go ahead. Who do you think I'm going to say? Well, I'm hoping you're referring to this tweet we got from Aaron Evans at AG Evans 901, which is a picture of Robert Kakaula, and it just says UCLA loses. If you don't know, Robert Kekala, our brother from the island, the Hawaiian announcer, the mountain of a man, maybe my favorite Homer announcer in college football history. oh joe yosepha he used to talk about joe yusepha one of their running backs like he was barry sanders joe yosepha was not barry sanders um because they're like like like how many two and o teams
Starting point is 00:31:41 can you name in college football right now us only one yeah usf usf and hawaii that's it you're not two and o two thousand seven is back again usf in hawaii going undefeated so now here's the hardest here's the hardest question for you if you have to take one team to go to three Reno, are you taking Hawaii against UCLA, or are you taking USF against Yukon? The former, because the latter game might not be played as of this recording, might be moved somewhere weird. Wait, never know. The USF game might get moved? Yeah, well, because, you know, USF has to travel to and fro the stadium, so maybe that game's later in the year, so I'm not necessarily going to bet on it.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Shit. Yeah, Irma's, Irma's going to throw a curveball right to the middle. the schedule it's going to upset all kinds of stuff like it's not just the games in the path of the hurricane you know like miami flying back from arkansas state that's not a good idea doing that sunday morning i just i just never thought i just never thought we'd see a saturday without yukon football and we thought we'd get it it's hard yeah i was i was i was actually yeah i was gonna talk about ucla because hawai's got to watch your ass because they're not There's one thing UCLA is not, they're not consistent.
Starting point is 00:33:02 That's not. You can't say, oh, well, this Jim Mora coached team that depends heavily on the passing attack and took a dirt nap for half of a game against Texas A&M before relying on Texas A&M's inherent instability to outweigh their own inherent instability, catch a wave, and come back from a 44-10 deficit. I always theorize that, like, you know, if you can overcome a 4410 deficit, you could probably blow one too.
Starting point is 00:33:33 So Hawaii, take advantage of this. It's all set up for you. It's all set up. Nick Rolovich has done a great job coaching there. And nobody pays attention because it's Hawaii, but he really has. And yeah, it's in the Rose Bowl. It's not a super advantage.
Starting point is 00:33:50 This is open there. So I don't know. Take a flyer, keep an eye on it. There's plenty of meat on this schedule. This is just one little tidbit. What stood out to me from the UCLA ANM game, Josh Rosen looked great in the comeback. Josh Rosen also was doing a lot of slanging, a lot of like, oh, he threw that pass, huh? That pass worked, huh?
Starting point is 00:34:10 Like, through coverages, multiple passes thrown through coverages. There's, there's, I'm just saying, Josh Rosen has five interceptions, smuggled away somewhere on his person. And Texas A&M didn't find him, but somebody will. somebody somebody will and that's not i don't think that's a criticism of rosen because i just assume if you're that kind of quarterback you're going to have games where you're like i can throw six t ds and it's the same reason i can throw six i and t's like it can happen you play for jim mora you should say fuck it you should say i don't care oh i want to play discipline to make coach no coach will never love you or be proud just throw it you're not going to you're not going to find love
Starting point is 00:34:56 on the sideline trying to find it between the hatches you you hate stepdad okay so go ahead and cause ruckus have fun stepdad jim mora sucks and he probably won't be here next year so what's it matter mom like him for the jet's job huh oh my god love him for that jet's job be amazing um perfection god can't believe the bills couldn't lock down jim morrow but that's how No, if they do that, though, they're going to draft Josh Rosen. We got to get him out of this situation. That'd be awesome. Like, you know, well, Josh, are you thinking about leaving or going?
Starting point is 00:35:34 Well, I'm just seeing whether coach takes the Jets job or not. Oh, turns out I'm going for my master's. Hey, CFL is looking more. I'm thinking about playing arena ball. Maybe I'm going to see if I can get baseball drafted. I'm going to try to play Wimbledon. Play Wimbledon. I'd love to play Wimbledon.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Maybe I'll learn tennis, too. Josh Rosen was a junior's tennis player. There's no reason. Listen, if your choice is played quarterback for the Jets or be like the 208th men's tennis player in the world, go get that racket, man. Put them shorts on. I have, and I would like to announce a transfer to BYU, which will require a two-year mission trip beforehand. Hopefully by then, Coach Mora will be out of the Jets. job because they'll surely be picking in the top five every year for the next three years that
Starting point is 00:36:28 should be enough of a cushion i would like to take a question here a prediction from justin at j gradin stanford triples usc's time of possession i don't i'm gonna i'm gonna riverside you here i don't think that's gonna happen just because i think that uh ronald jones well keep the ball just enough USC to keep you from having a 15 to 45 minute differential in this game it's a nice thought and it's probably
Starting point is 00:37:03 Stanford's actual game plan but it ain't happening also just so you know do you know what the time possession was in the Western Michigan game I believe Western Michigan had it for slightly less Western Michigan had the ball
Starting point is 00:37:19 for about 35 minutes USC a little over 25 So all they have to do is be 10 minutes of possession better than Western Michigan. Now it doesn't seem so crazy, does it? It does. That's nuts. That would be a Navy line. No, but this is, but think about style of play.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Like Western Michigan was not a like, let's keep it on. Let's just slow it down, slow it down, not get crazy. I mean, they ran the ball more than they threw it, but that's because they're, were running the ball much better than they were throwing it. And that also doesn't account for the fact that Stanford's defense is definitely going to be better than Western Michigan's. Sam Darnold looked like ass in that game. They're two picks.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Like, didn't look good at all. Yes, 45-15, probably outside of the realm of possibility. I mean, 3723? Justin, if you're right, then, then, then. then statistically you you pulled off if you could put money on this go ahead because because if you're right you know and somebody takes that bet you're beating some like long odds here well we should okay just we should also point out that it doesn't necessarily mean Stanford wins the game I would I would point you to the example of one Georgia Institute of Technology who against
Starting point is 00:38:52 Tennessee in a game where, yeah, we predicted it last week. They rushed for 500 yards. And jokingly, we said, they'll probably do that and lose. Reader, they did that. They had the ball. They had the ball for 40, over 41 minutes of the game. Tennessee, Tennessee, including overtime, only ran 59 plays. Georgia Tech ran 96.
Starting point is 00:39:22 And Georgia Tech lost this game. The only time of possession that matters is the one second you spend carrying the ball across the goal line and or putting it through the goalposts. All other time is just time being spent. Well, I think that was, I think what Paul Johnson was trying to do is saying like, well, okay, I understand those are the seconds that matter. And if I just hoard as many seconds as I can statistically, it's more. more likely that I'll have some of those seconds and not the non-second. You know, I will have some wasteful seconds, but hopefully if I just pick up this whole haystack, there will be needles in it.
Starting point is 00:40:02 I love needles. I will tell you this, too, that when I was watching it, I was just like, this whole, the Georgia Tech Tennessee game was Rogue One because I was like, well, how much Darth Vader's in this movie? Well, just like a little bit. It's at the very end, but it's very effective. Tennessee just made a cameo. Just showed up like redneck Darth Vader.
Starting point is 00:40:25 That's it. Throwing in the ceiling. Paul Johnson just sitting on the beach holding his team. Yep, we did it. Did what? When the death ray is coming there on the beach, I think Paul Johnson's still having those boys run through the option. We're going to do it till the fucking fire cloud takes us.
Starting point is 00:40:44 You sorry, because I'm the butts. What's the Tennessee Death Star? Is it like a pontoon boat with a T-shirt gun? Here it comes! I would like to say briefly what offended me most about Tennessee's turnover trash can was not that it exists because like ridiculous stunt props that's fine is that it looks so fucking cheap man it looked it literally looked like a grad assistant went to a Home Depot three hours before game time took the truck took a rubber made trash can over two FedEx kinkos and was like Hey, man, what do you got with, uh, you got any, like decals? I can throw on this. Yeah, I just need to say team 128 or whatever the hell it is.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Just, just, you know what? Give me teams, uh, 100 through one, uh, two, 207. It'll be one of those. I know we'll get it right. Football will end 200, 2007 years after Tennessee started playing it. That's, that's about right. I think my favorite part of it was how Tennessee fans insisted it's a bucket. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:41:51 we that's not buckets have you know handles they're smaller they're not trash cans and like by the end of the game however once tennessee one ball fans are you know i love the trash can trash can is actually good i think we should fire butch jones and hire that trash can i'm in my daughter trash can that's how that's how they're gonna do it they're just going to joyfully fire butch jones stuff a minute carry it off the field oh we did it i mean team 120 whatever i i i i i I do kind of hope Tennessee goes the Stanford route of endowed positions. And they're like, yeah, he's the waste management coach of offense. Offensive coordinator.
Starting point is 00:42:32 I'm not going to bust on them for like, you know, what kind of trash cans you buy in Brooklyn? What? You got some. We just throw our trash on the street. I don't know what you're talking about cans. That is the Rutgers method of hoping for turnover. But I'm also not bragging about it. I'm not out here displaying my trash.
Starting point is 00:42:51 on the sideline. I'm not out here pimping this shit. That's the difference. That's like saying them. Yeah, that's We're gonna re- Hey, look at this. Hey, everybody, look at this trash.
Starting point is 00:43:08 We're gonna refurbish this trash. Then we're not gonna win a game there. It's time to approach what I think is the, the, the, probably the game where I'm like, I'm like, when I was conflicted, in terms of who to root for, but I, but I got to do it because I hate one team more than I dislike
Starting point is 00:43:26 generally the other. That would be Georgia Notre Dame because those, that's happening by the way. Yeah, go dogs. Go dogs. 100%. So easy. So easy. Yeah. It's an easy call because for a second, I'm like, no, no, nope, definitely doing this. And, and if you're conflicted at all, remember that, you know, that Brian Kelly's the coach and you can you can blame yourself for however this game goes
Starting point is 00:43:58 but it doesn't matter because Brian Kelly's going to blame you no matter what happens. Trash Bandicoot at MCG-G-A-H-A-O-7. McA-H-A-O-7. I will not watch a single second of Georgia Notre Dame and I will be a better person because of it. Depends on what you're doing. Like I got a whatever your replacement activity is, I got to know, because this is this game. Well, to be clear, you could be watching Auburn at Clemson, which might be a very good game.
Starting point is 00:44:29 You could be watching Oklahoma at Ohio State, which also might be a very good game. You can even be watching Mississippi State at Louisiana Tech, which shit, maybe that will be a good game. You could be sticking around and waiting to watch Stanford USC. So you have plenty of alternative football options that you would not be mocked for choosing. over a hobbled Georgia against your grandpa's favorite bullshit. You could be rolling through the still opening stanzas, the first and second act of South Carolina, Missouri, which will extend deep into the midnight and possibly 1 a.m. hour.
Starting point is 00:45:11 So you could be investing in that, too, for the ultimate payoff. It's like a, it's like a Burmese opera. It's going to last like eight hours. You're not going to really be sure what's happening. But at the end, you'll be confused. just overwhelmed and exhilarated, and you'll probably forget it all. But still, you could be watching that. So, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Like, maybe you'll be a better person for not watching it. I don't know. If you go rob a bank, probably not. If you watch another game, I don't know, maybe. Hold on. Why did you rob the bank? That's a good opinion, like, to feed the orphans, to save the orphan? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:43 The only reason I rob banks. There's not enough of that in film these days, by the way, crime for the right reason, right? Like, I think it says something. There used to be a bunch of movies where they're like, yeah, we're going to rob a bank, but it's for the right reasons. That's why we're going to do it. Now it's like, why would you take anything from our benevolent corporate overlord? In the 70s, they're like, no, man, we're going to knock over a liquor store for the right reasons.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Here at Orphan Corp, we leveraged loans against these orphans. It's brilliant. This one's, by the way, I just want to also get this prediction on the board. before somebody else picks one. Andrew Masota at Andrew Masota, Western Michigan over Michigan State by two scores. Jesus. Two scores.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Lewirk is MSU's leading rusher for the second time this year. Maybe, man. I don't know. Western Michigan went and gave USC the full effort, took them to the wire. So, yeah. They looked very comfortable running against USC. Very comfortable.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Yeah. Yeah. And you know, you know, Michigan State. it looked like in opening week? Week one? Nobody knows. Nobody watched. That's right.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Nobody watched that game. Actually, I watched a little bit of it. What is wrong with you? It was opening week. You watched so many bad teams on opening. You watched the Boston College game that we specifically told people don't watch this or we'll have to have an intervention for you. How are you a drug counselor who's still doing heroin?
Starting point is 00:47:15 That's the irony of my story. Don't you understand scripting? No. No. Character development. I don't know what to steer people away from if you don't test it yourself just to make sure it's still bad. So to be clear, Spencer is the poison taster at the king's table.
Starting point is 00:47:31 I'm the Alex, I'm like Alex Jones with weed, only trying it just to test the strength for everybody else. Sia, this Indiana at Virginia, it's gone terribly wrong. Don't sample of it. I will eat all of it because I love you, my liege. I think it's if Rasputin was a poison tester. like he's just really really good at this job can we also get um this production from at emmerz auburn will beat clemson in a game with five missed field goals is there any sadder worse
Starting point is 00:48:05 wasted moment than watching a game where somebody misses like four or five field calls it's it's just by the by the by the second or third you can feel it coming and it's the coach's duty at that point right Like, there was a controversy this week. Ed Cunningham, an announcer, quit calling college football because he doesn't think that with the amount of head trauma involved, he can be involved. The game that pushed him into that, per the New York Times, was the Iowa, Florida bowl game where C.J. Bethard just sat there and took a beating.
Starting point is 00:48:41 A horrendous one. Anyone who watched that bowl game was horrified and genuinely, like, like, wondered if the Iowa coaching staff was, like, doing either the right or sensible thing or just, you know, I don't know, he didn't want to come out and the doctor's cleared up. Yeah, take him out. He's getting thrown around out there, right? Anyway, at some point, the coaches have to interact, intervene and come in and say, hey, we're going to take you out of the game and we're going to control the situation. So this doesn't look so bad. When you send a kicker out after missing two psychologically,
Starting point is 00:49:15 Maybe you're trying to break that streak. If the kickers missed three, I don't know, man. Go for it. Just pass, run. Call the trick play. Punt, even if you're unlike the 20, don't send the kicker out there again. Because he's going to miss the fourth. And he's going to miss the fifth.
Starting point is 00:49:33 I don't know what the most field goals missed in a game is, but I bet that dude never hit another one again. Just could not put in between the uprights. Most field goals missed. Guess the teams. Hang on, hang on, hang on. Guess with your hearts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Okay. Yeah. Are they, can you give us, are they power five teams or not? Power five. Oh, boy. Okay. Now, listen. Wake Forest.
Starting point is 00:50:01 I'm telling you, I'm telling you, clear your, clear your mind. Speak from the heart. Florida State. Close. Florida. Florida. One part of the game. now who is
Starting point is 00:50:16 out of the teams you play which team Georgia set this record close Tennessee it's in the realm of rival South Carolina LSU versus Florida
Starting point is 00:50:33 1972 missed seven field board holy shit just two per quarter Was it one kicker? It doesn't say the NCAA record books Don't shame whoever contributed to the effort, but... Okay, so this is 1972, LSU, Florida, right?
Starting point is 00:50:55 And if the... Hold on. Oh, my God. This is an amazing game. All right. Did we record all this, too? Yeah, we're probably still running. Sure, throw it in.
Starting point is 00:51:06 LSU... So this game finished tied three to three. Oh, my fucking God. So they attempted, LSU drove to win the game, attempted a 37-yard field goal 25 seconds ago. The kick was blocked, but the officials ruled that Florida players had touched the ball twice, and when an LSU player fell on it, the Tigers got it back. He'd then tried a 32-yard field goal, but it went wide. The greatest game ever played. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Oh, my God. So that was, that was, when people say the LSU Florida rivalry began in 2016 or 2007 or 2006, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 1972. Hey there, I'm Dieter Bone from The Verge, and I'm dropping it to the podcast to remind you of something. Apple is going to release a new iPhone in September. They do literally every September. But this year, it's going to be a really big deal. And so our podcast, The Vergecast, is going to record in front of a live audience the day after Apple's announcement. We'll be recording on September 13th in San Francisco, and you can get tickets at Bitley slash the VergeCast SF.
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