Shutdown Fullcast - Shutdown Fullcast 7.24: We Were Right About Everything

Episode Date: September 18, 2017

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Welcome to the shutdown fullcast. Oh, my. Oh, my. Oh, my. We have a lot of things to review here, by the way, like a ton of things happened in college football. Now, that's usually true, but I think this is the kind of week we'll look back and go, you know, that thing that we thought for the rest of the season, it started this week. this is i think at the point where you actually begin to and week three see what we call a robust data set when you start to sort of see oh after three games this is what this team is well i think we have hit the point where every team is bad because you can look and see like oh that team looked pretty good yeah well they look bad against this other team in week one or you know oh

you know uh a texas look pretty good oh yeah well they lost to maryland so they're they're Maryland is bad now. Let's test that. Toss out a team. Toss out a team. So Bama was not blowing away Colorado State at the half. And I don't think they covered. Clemson, okay, they didn't look, you know, they didn't blow away Auburn, and then Auburn kind of goofed around with Mercer for a while. You know, Oklahoma, okay, Oklahoma, no complaints with Oklahoma.

Penn State, Penn State, you didn't, Penn State, you didn't beat Acro Pit nearly as bad as Oklahoma State did, therefore Penn State, you're a fraud. Terrible. USC, your best wins over Stanford, Stanford, just along to a lost to a Mountain West team, and on and on and on. At this point, every team except Oklahoma is bad. Huh, hold on. What about Wake Forest? Every team except Wake Forest is bad. Wake Forest and Oklahoma, there's your national championship.

Well, who, let's see, Wake Forest has played, um, off the top of my head. Presbyterian, handled Presbyterian. The Blue Hose. 517. Beat Boston College by 24, be Utah State by 36. Yeah. The Demon Deans are just cruising, my dude. In, um, Bill C's S&P Plus rankings this week, he also included a subset of what would

the rankings look like if all preseason projections were dropped out? and it was let me pull it up real quick it's a horrifying array of teams yeah it's like if you based it on if you based your if the season ended right now playoff on literally nothing but what teams have accomplished okay your number one seed would be Mississippi State yeah Penn State and Oklahoma State Washington Washington wait why yeah that I don't get that hang on hang on you can look at who they played then who they played then who they Those teams have played and all that. You can math it out. Okay. Number five, your Wake Forest Demon Deacons. Okay.

You know what? I put Wake Forest in over Washington at this point. My favorite is number six, Miami, which whipped Bethune Cookman. And that's it. Evidently made that quite a quality win. But Boothoon Cookman is incredible. And then at number eight, the only good team, Oklahoma. So, yeah.

at this point there are exactly exactly eight good teams well let's so we let's can we go through this can we hold ourselves a little bit accountable here because some of these games we had predictions on some of these games we had thoughts on damn damn good ones at that

some of them what do you think was our good prediction I think Memphis was a good one except for this I said they didn't have anyone who could trade who could who could stretch the field Do you happen to have the stats for that game open? Because I enjoy a good Mayacolpa. I enjoy a good, you know, we were incorrect in that. Now, I will say this.

This was based on like hard stats prior to that. Memphis had like one of the lowest, like they had some of the fewest explosive players. Yeah, but we fucked that up because Memphis had only played one game and it came in like a tropical storm. So. Yeah. So maybe, maybe we weren't read content. text on that. Yeah, when I said they didn't have anybody

who could stretch the field, yeah, let me read you the averages of Memphis's receivers. Anthony Miller had nine receptions for 185 yards and average 20.6 yards per catch. They had a guy go for one for 47, one for 42. Memphis, I'm sorry. We were right in saying that it'd be a fight.

We were wrong in saying how you'd fight it. Y'all showed out, whooped up on them. Darryl Henderson got 105 yards on 14 carries. Most of them came on an 80-yard carry. So, yeah. I mean, I think the thing is we're not going to get the tactics, right? We will get the overall vibe right. We might not get the actual result,

but we will predict how you're going to feel about what's about to happen. So, like, you know, months and months and months ago, we told you, UCLA, don't do this. Don't do this. Bad idea. We don't need to know if you're a better team and all that. We just need to, you know, we can just tell you, we can spot a bad idea. I'll put it like that.

We're one of the other doctors on House where we're like, well, I knew something was wrong. It's like, yeah, but you didn't really, yeah, it doesn't matter. I'm handsome. I'm so handsome. That's, that's exactly that. Perfect. I got that Paul, got that Paul Manafort defense. Not guilty.

Why? Too handsome. Sorry. we were also right about you know what i'm going to say we were right about boston college notary dame needed 49 points to win this game technically yes they won it by 29 points but could boston college have have scored 50 they scored 20 so yes they didn't run out of points they just ran out of time you know what bc put up 400 yards of offense against notre In my book, that's adjusting for Boston College deflation.

Boston College scored 50 points and won this game 50-49, a thriller that got Brian Kelly fired. Wow, that's reporting. Reporting live right here. Actual reporting. I will say that I would like to, it's not often that I go, you know, the person I should quote here as an expert is myself, but this is an extremely stupid situation. So what I would like to do is tell you exactly what I wrote about the Tennessee Florida game on Friday, which is this. This game will be like watching two pigeons fight over a half-eaten chicken wing. No one respects the pigeons to begin with because they are pigeons. Both are poorly armed and equipped for the fight because, again, are pigeons.

As an SEC East rivalry, the entire exercise is an exercise in cannibalism, as a fight over position. and the blighted SEC East, it is a feudal fight with very little meat on the bone to be won. Bystanders will be mildly horrified, only mildly, because this game doesn't have the gravity to merit full horror. That leaves you with the option of farce, right? Did we get a farce in Tennessee, Florida? Oh, oh, yeah. We got the farcinnist. The richest and farcinnest thing imaginable.

Yes, the game was good, and there's nothing to complain about. we can just say the game was very good because the last part was very good and let's just focus on that. Well, the statement we were asked to evaluate for this game, somebody suggested that Florida was going to outgain Tennessee and lose. And the flip happened, Tennessee outgained Florida by 62 yards and lost. So if you're keeping track at home, Tennessee in Power 5 play is 1-0 when they get out-gained, and oh and one when they out game. So I think the answer is just start kneeling. And, and I mean, that's literally the name of the stadium.

That's the name of the stadium. It was written right there the whole time. The answers were right in front of you. Can I just go over the number of, like, Tennessee and Florida? No, I want to go over this. Yeah, okay. Because I rag on Gary Danielson a lot. Yep.

for being cantankerous and complaining too much he was perfect in tennessee florida because all he did was wonder why these men pick up paychecks that was all he did the entire game was point out how badly coached both teams were and he was wrong about none of it absolutely none i think in the first quarter he dropped that this was the that florida had gone from fun and gun to three and done that was in the first quarter damn yeah yeah he was pointing out like how wide receivers are being coached to run routes poorly and how bad the blocking schemes were and the execution was. This is just on Florida.

This is like he was pointing out all of this in roasting Florida and Tennessee was on the same field. Like he had to space out. I know he did. He had to sit there and go, man, there's a lot on this plate. I'm going to have to, I'm going to need all four quarters to work through this. It's a big meal, but I think I can get through it. A hater like me?

I have an hour of football time to fill in four hours of broadcast. Let's go. So I actually, I want to come to Butch Jones's defense here because the last play, hold on, let me finish. Richard Johnson, our beloved colleague and a fellow Florida alum wrote about the last play of a game and exactly what Tennessee did, which is to say, not really cover. But I want you to think of it this way. let's say butch calls you know prevent everybody just sit deep and knock the ball down and this game goes to overtime and let's say Florida wins it there in some boring fashion you know Tennessee misses a field goal blah-b-de-blah blah blah then we would be talking about what we should

be talking about in this game which is what the fuck was Tennessee doing when they had the ball close to the goal oh like we got we got seven snaps and who's the best player on the field for tennessee and anyone watching including c c jefferson who after the game uh insisted on saying hey listen good job tennessee but you got to know that number four is a beast number four being john kelly that god it's it's probably the guy who got 25 touches 19 of them carries and uh racked up oh i don't know like 237 yards of offense by his damn self the best player on the field for either team arguably when you looked at them and how they were playing and when you got into the red zone how many carries uh did did john kelly see how many carries did

anybody see i believe we had seven i believe we had seven straight passes just from a first year starter in the red zone it's you you if you didn't watch this game go back and look at some of the Like, I'm going to read the play-by-play here. This is from early in the third quarter. First and goal, Tennessee at the Florida one. Quentin Dormity, pass incomplete. Florida penalty, unsportsmanlike conduct puts the ball back at the one. You get a do-over.

Okay. First and goal at the Florida one. Classic, classic Florida football right there. Now, here we get a false start. So we don't know. Maybe that was going to be a run. We can't prove it. It never happened.

First and goal at the five now. Passing complete. Second and goal. Pass complete to John Kelly for a loss of one yard. Yep. Third and goal at the six. The score at this point is three to six. Quentin Dormney pass intercepted at the one yard line.

I just... And then it happened again. It happened basically again, not at the one, but at the nine. nine and they had to kick up the i just i don't know man it's and in all that you had three miss field goals is if this thing had gone to overtime like uh yeah could tennessee have scored at all

like ever yes yes if they had lost yardage and kicked longfield goals okay or or let john kelly run for 38 yards after losing a bunch yeah back it up back it up far enough outside back it up outside of the pass zone into the run zone. General, General Meeleon, it's right there. He's so fast, he needs all that time to slow down. He needs all that 20 yards of cushion. I mean, I feel a little, I don't really feel that bad for Tennessee

because they were coached very stupidly. I feel bad for the players because I felt like they were. And you try not to do this because this is like, you know, the first, when you watch a team and you watch them play badly, that your temptation is to go, oh, man, these coaches suck. And sometimes that's the case, right? It's ultimately the case in terms of responsibility.

But you try to be a little more careful about saying, like, oh, yeah, these people are very bad at their jobs, right? Because you don't know. You know, I've never, none of the people on this podcast have ever coached football professionally, correct? I'm not, like, I've seen your resumes. Yeah, that is true. Okay.

With that, none of us have ever done it. However, it's really obvious when you see people who have done it start pointing in and going, yeah, you know, I'm going to be real, like, I'm going to defer to expertise into my peers, but these people suck at it. Like, the things they've done don't make sense under any framework. And I could get it. Like, this is one of those things where you're watching it, and you're like, if you want to get rid of Butch Jones, if you just want to like cap this,

and start over. Y'all, I'm fine with it. I'm fine. Like, no one, no one would begrudge you that. No one. He might be, too. Yeah.

I mean, it can't be fun. I know those people. I grew up with them. They're not happy about anything. Like, I kind of hope he just shows up for his next, like his Monday press conference in like a hemp shirt and with some beaded hair. And it's just like, yeah, man, I'm making some changes. I think, yeah, I'm going to start an alpaca farm.

All this football thing's done for me. I'm really just finding my connection to the earth. I'm going to be barefoot all the time now. I love y'all. He just walks away. That'd be fine. I'd be happy for him. He doesn't seem very happy right now.

Because you know what? Alpacas can't throw the ball on first and goal. They can't. All they could do is run. They got to run it. I mean, you know what? That might have scored. you know what tennessee didn't do on any of those possessions oh my god score

mississippi state what has gotten into you you look good you look great you lost a bunch of weight you're wearing new clothes yeah be i mean pants pants looking right shirt looking right butt looking great swallowed the cut yeah you know what happened those overalls yeah those over there's over have i told you how trim you're looking up on that bobcat it's unreal yeah I don't man they um what got into them is this

they uh they now beat LSU and it's not weird remember what used to be weird sure that that they would beat LSU be like oh man that's stunning I can't imagine that like 2013 14 that's weird that you're beating LSU 2017 you're like no man

you whipped their ass and I'm not even that shocked this feels this feels like the game that we're going to get to the end of the season and we're going to say LSU is 12 and Mississippi State was unranked what like this is this is I think the best case study of the week for preseason rankings are a total waste of time because LSU is what two and oh on the strength of beating a BYU team that seems very much done and Chattanooga and Mississippi State was unranked and you know for for fair reason in that they hadn't like i mean they beat louisiana tech and did force third and ninth third and goal from the other team seven um let us never forget third and 93 but man this this just this wasn't close this wasn't close

at all no not one bit and to to further that point nick fitzgerald aka only recruited by u t chattanooga Stanton is fun of saying, Nick Fitzgerald, if you give that offense a running back and a quarterback who can both move the ball out of the backfield, everything else falls in line. They pushed LSU around bad in this game. So the Bulldogs punted on their first two positions. And after that, eight plays touchdown, 10 plays field goal, 10 plays touchdown, seven plays field goal, six plays touchdown, five plays field goal, six plays touchdown, five plays field goal, six plays, touchdown, and then they punt it again. Yeah. So they went from, you know, four minutes left in the first quarter.

Their second punt. They didn't punt again until there were less than two minutes left in the game. There are no turnovers here that I'm forgetting. There's just scoring. There's just marching methodically down the field against an LSU defense that we thought was supposed to be still pretty solid. They did not look like that. last on saturday not even slightly no sir they got run they got runt over that's not a run over

they got runt over and and there's also like you know the whole big the whole big thing for the off season was going to be that uh ls u had hired matt canada and now they had an offense right like oh man they got an offense now imagine imagine ed ed's got this thing figured out well you know um a little bit of spackle doesn't fix everything structurally it's this is this is something else that people found out clearly you never had an apartment in gainsville sir that's this whole this whole apartment's made spackle the whole building is just florida wall to foundation spacklin yeah i don't um this was this is very similar to tom herman's comments echoing that he could not come in and just

sprinkle pixie dust over everything and end up with a completely new football program that's that's that's very much the case with with lSU's offense because remember danny etling like last year and you know you throw for like a hundred yards you'd be like man that an lSU offense sucks um yeah you know what he threw for he threw for 137 and aft 4.7 yeah this looked a lot like last year and it's it's this just takes time it takes time and that is so it's so very hard to tell a fan that this is going to take time because basically you've got all the same parts you got a pretty good run attack and you got a bunch of you got a bunch of receivers

and a quarterback who really does about what they are man there's not a lot of magic to be had I mostly like that Ed Ordron is now on the verge of becoming the Frosty the snowman of coaches where he puts on his magic hat we're oh we're gonna have a good time out in the snow

oh we go to throw the snowball we got to hit a police car They're going to be so mad. Oh, they can't do nothing, though, because Snowman, he ain't under their jurisdiction. Snowman answers to no law kills everybody he wants to. But Frosty doesn't get to play. Like, Frosty's not like a four-month thing. It's just like, all right, hats off.

Time to go. Who's next? Yeah. And, like, it's going to, and there's the temptation. Like, I think people have only certain tracks they get their brain into, right? Oh, my God. they can't they can't i feel like i know what you're going to say but they can't do this well like now they'll be like oh man we we get the wrong guy the job right they'll they'll think that they'll be

like oh we give the wrong guy the job like it's not up to it and the truth is probably somewhere like like like in between that you're like oh well you know he this is pretty much this looks like last year's team right this looks like every other lSU team and it's going to take time to change how they behave and how they function and in how they look just because of who they have on the roster in terms of personnel, right? Like, you still have a Purdue transfer, a quarterback, right? And that's not cool yet, in my opinion. It will be in, like, two years.

If you get that guy, he'd be like, he doesn't throw the ball further than 30 yards down the field because Jeff Brom's medal as hell. No, no, no. This is the battle of Purdue, right? Nothing changes too much. So the truth's probably somewhere in between, right? Everyone at LSU is probably, like, real queasy

in terms of how they feel about an emotional decision that the program might have made in appointing a very likable interim on a permanent basis. I don't know. And giving him a very significant buyout. Jason, do you want to talk about Texas or Purdue next? And I realize what that sounds like. Well, both programs are about equal in quality

as far as football production and performance goes. Purdue's record is better. Let's admit. Purdue's record is better. Let's go with the team that did not lose to Maryland yet. Fair. It's fair. Missouri, you okay?

You okay, fellas? You don't have to answer that question because when I see Drew Lack 12 of 28 for 133 yards and two interceptions. The answer is already quick. I mean... This is kept... I don't know if you guys do this, but sometimes you sort of treat the score board like, you know, like a cat scan. You're like, oh, that tumor seems to be under control.

Oh, man, that one's really good out of hand, isn't it? Oh, good God. Yeah, close the door on that. That one's done. That's kind of the way this score kept going. You're like, well, I don't know. Maybe Missouri'll get... No, no, that's stage four.

They're done. And that's, by the way, that's the verge of people who are much smarter about football than I am, much smarter. For instance, Bill Connolly, a Mazugrad and fan, who titled his post about this game, this is what giving up looks like. The last Power 5 school that didn't score at least six points against Purdue, you won't guess it, and so I'm not going to make you try, was Illinois in 2000. five. Five.

Illinois in, I believe, Ron Zuck's first year, an Illinois team that wound up going two and nine. And that was back when Purdue was like a solid, you know, not like an amazing team, but a team that was constantly flirting with bowl eligibility, which they will be again this year, to be fair. Yeah. My God. This is just, this.

This is probably one of the worst results that I can... Like, we all joked about Indiana winning the SEC East. This is worse than that. This is so much worse than that. I mean, and it's not just... Okay, you gave up 35 points to a creative offensive coaching staff. That is technically a Power 5 program and all that. Okay, these things happen.

And also you're in the zoo, so these things happen to you frequently. It's the three. That's the scary part. because the one thing Missou is supposed to be good at is putting up lots of points and you didn't put up any yeah and in addition of that

according to people I know full disclosure I have not watched the tape of this game but according to people who did Purdue didn't have to pull out much in order to win this particular bar bet we're going to put it in Milton Burl terms they ran some real basic stuff they didn't even put a whole lot on tape for everyone else

in other words they didn't need to get past the bread and butter, okay, to put Mizzou in this particular sandwich. That's, yeah, this is just, who, yeah, I mean, we might be looking, Mizzou, Mizzou's done, right? They are done, done, done, I want to talk, can we, can we talk about, by the way, just generally, teams that you go, yeah, I think they're done, because, because there are a few of them out here when you go. I might feel that way about Stanford at this point. Stanford? Yeah, unless they're playing in the southern hemisphere. No, they always start slow. Big Bear always lumbers awake around November.

It's, I mean, they threw for 80 yards against San Diego State. The San Diego State has had good defenses and... Yeah, it was dark outside. That was a good point. It was dark in case you'd have missed it. The lights went out at Qualcomm. Just the lights. They just turned off and they needed a good 15 minutes to get them all back on. I hope that was the city of San Diego intentionally turning, like, hey, we told you we don't want this. We don't like football.

We told you we were over it. Football permit ends at nine local. Philip Rivers hasn't paid the bill for months. I got to feed 28 kids. How do you expect me to feed them? How do you expect me to pay this line bill? All right. All right.

So maybe not Sanford. Can I interest you in Nebraska? yeah so nebraska lost to northern illinois they're done i don't really when you lose n i u and you lose the way they did because i did watch this game and sir sir this is it's bad it's very very very very bad to lose the game the way they did tanner lee throwing two six picks um you say two six picks i did i'm very tired um Yes, he threw two six. If they were that bad, they were six picks.

Now, let's see. Let's parse this out. What would a six pick be? I mean, it sounds... Oh, no, it's a game where you throw six interceptions. Yeah. Okay, that happens sometimes. Yeah.

That would happen, that might happen to this Nebraska team. I'm telling you that's how bad this is right now. I mean, they threw three. Yeah. They did throw three. So the weird thing Since Mike Riley got to Nebraska in 2015 The Huskers

Through this last weekend Have had 16 games That were decided by one score or less On either side There's seven and nine in those games But just the sheer number They are tied with Pitt and Utah For the most one score games

In all of college football Across that stretch Like all the cardiac teams that you think are, you know, you say Iowa, Iowa can't play like, Iowa is not going to play a ton of games. Nope, 13 games for Iowa. What about Georgia? Not

there 15. Boston College, they play terrible. 12. 16 games where it's just, it's just a goddamn coin flip. And Mike Riley is just like, well, you need that quarter more than I do, friend. Here you are. Have it. Charity.

Yeah, this is, in terms of developing a quarterback um that didn't happen big big time um and in terms of winning a close game no no that didn't happen either uh did you lose this game at home you weren't in decab by the way this was in lincoln so you lost that there's nothing good here and now you have a transit of loss to boston college oh damn we didn't even get to october it's not this is not that good of an n i u team terrible but this is not like those teams we were looking at I don't know what six seven years ago it's not that it's not that no and they didn't even they didn't even need any goddamn yardage to do it I mean that's that's the what I think is the

saddest thing about this is that for I don't know it feels like three years now maybe four we've just been saying Nebraska's defense used to be this vaunted thing the black shirts blah blah and they just never showed up and then this was the game where they actually did the defense played great and the offense just screwed him just screwed him royally yeah this is um i have nothing but negatives to say i feel like the lesson of 2017 nebraska is don't talk yourself into a player as your program savior unless there is a body of work, whether it's, I mean, even if it's a five-star recruit rating, that's something. Like, a lot was placed on Tanner Lee, who was just a two-lane quarterback transferred into Nebraska.

You know, not a star two-lane quarterback didn't even, you know, just nothing spent. And some Nebraska fans really built this kid up, like, you know, he's going to solve everything. and that might sound revisionist at this point, but you can go back and look and you can find it. And don't do that, man. Like, I mean, if your team isn't going to be good, you just got to embrace that. Okay, but what if you had, I don't know,

like a Heisman-level quarterback? And you didn't, you had some other problems. You didn't have, like, your defense was a little iffy, and your receivers had the case of the drops. And you didn't really have, like, a real consistent rushing attack aside from this quarterback like let's say you had that

and let's say I don't know you played Clemson what about them no shit yeah can I give you another team that's just done done done we talked about them

how's this not done done done but definitely a team where you go yeah I know I'm pretty sure that I know they're sealing, even though they have a player who might be best described as a deity, a man god walking among us. That's Louisville.

Because guess what you could do, Louisville, you can beat up on him. You can beat up on a bad because chances are, if you're a major team, you're better along the lines than they are. Both times Louisville is played Clemson. It's like the worst possible matchup for Louisville. You want to know why? Clemson's front seven and their front five, defensively and offensively, respectively, they're way better than Louisville.

And if we're to talk about this, like, I know, boy, we get to say bad things about Bottic Petrino. It's done a real good job. It's been so hard before this. It's been so hard. I know the level of difficulty on this is just immense. But Louisville's just not that good where other teams, like other much better teams are, i.e. in the trenches, i.e. where you go to move ass and clear space for all those beautiful skilled players you get. And trenches on both sides. Like Clemson last year as a team on the season

did not have much of a running game at all. And this year, what they run for on low? Was it like 290 yards? Almost 300, yeah. Yeah. I mean, Clemson in 2016, you know, let's see, what was their highest running total as a team in 2016 because I'm pretty sure it was nowhere near 291 this is good radio that's the problem for Louisville this year

is that you can go through last year's games and you can say like there are games where the defense either blew it wide open for them the Florida State game where they held Florida State below 300 total yards or games where the defense kind of

had to not bail them out but sort of they were the saving Grace, like the Duke game. They only won that game 2414. And that defense last year on a yards per play basis, eighth in the nation at the end of the season. Do you know where they are as of today? I have no idea. 108th. They are one spot above their right now spiritual compatriots, the UCLA Bruins. because it's the almost exact same thing. UCLA has a transcendent quarterback who is not afraid of almost anything,

sometimes to his detriment, who is an immense amount of fun to watch, who just makes plays when plays should not even be able to be made. And it won't matter because the defense is not a theoretical construct. Yep. And that's sort of what makes me hesitate of like, well, I don't know what this means for Clemson. Because this was not, like, a great defense that they beat up on.

You know, it will be... But I also look down the schedule, and it's like, I don't know where those huge tests are. It's not Syracuse. Wake Forest. You know what? It might be Virginia Tech and Wake. It's not Boston College. I mean, yes, technically you won that game 50-49 again.

They got run all over, too, so I can't see how Clemson's not going to do the exact same thing. South Carolina South Carolina I believed in you What the shit Why did I bother That's on you That's your fault

2313 The most Will Must champ Score to lose by No wait 239 would be the most Will Must champs score to lose by Yeah well you know You know exactly how

Those 10 points felt Those 10 points felt like 800 points right Yeah like we like you might as well just you're like oh look we're down 10 we're never going to get we're never going to get three all of the South Carolina fans that I was following who watched this game the sorrow the sorrow was actually affecting like it wasn't like ah ha ha welcome to the boat I was like no no no this feels like your souls are being crushed let's let's talk about a happy let's talk about Texas USC have you have you How much time Have either of you spent at a casino In your life?

Just relatively Substantial amount Jason Well like all total Yeah Enough I guess Have you Have you ever watched someone

Gamble And I do mean gamble Not just like sit down And like I'm going to play some I'm going to play some three card poker Or whatever Have you seen someone Just gambling

Enormous amounts of money And just watched it from that detached perspective. Oh, sure. That's the best part. That is what this game was to me. This is watching somebody play $1,000 hands of blackjack or putting $500

down at a time at the roulette table and just being like yeah, who knows? It's either going to be one or the other. I'm either going to make a lot of money or lose a lot of money. It's fun. This is fun, right? I was going to say, I was like, I hope you were asking, like, who did you watch?

I'm like, my dad. yeah i there's there's this thing when you were watching this game like like texas was just trying to find because i i was in the coliseum by the way little little miniature review of the coliseum here a really great experience like i'm actually like i'm super i was pro the i had no idea what to expect in terms of the game experience USC that's a fun time it's not bad at all I think I was sort of expecting I don't know Vanderbilt with a tan

But no It was magnificent That place is And it's They have a very old stadium That being rich people They will never replace Or even paint

Because the red paint On the outside is It's flaking Well and that's why NFL fans don't go Because it's not nice enough Not ritzy enough That's right They have their own

They have their own like like their whole setup for the band the band has like their own temple in one end zone that they just get to sit there and they really do only play like you know three songs and that's fine i don't know why it works like it should be the lamest thing ever when you go oh man these guys only have three songs no they kind of work it's hypnotic well it seems appropriate that it's called the coliseum because you're like yep amenities are about what you yep sure there's a tiger you want to pet it it's me You guys list hot water as an amenity. Yeah, sure. That's because we put fire under the cauldron. That's how it works. That's actually, it's actually a utility. That's not just for show.

That heats all of the water in the stadium. Also, there's some very old California advertising going on there. It's the only stadium I've seen where on one wall, they have a clock, you know, with actual hands and dials on the stone. And then on the right, they have a third. thermometer this right that displays like it's like a dial is you know it's like 70 degrees and I know exactly what that's for it's like a bank basically it is well it's like a bank it's also advertising so that on TV right when everybody else is either freezing or sweltering we're like oh I don't know

man we're just here in southern California having way better time than you are just here in 72 degrees it's cool on top of a fault line and everything's on fire but other than that man it's totally But yeah, Texas was like, Texas spent this entire time just praying and hoping and to find anything that would work at any point. And they really dug deep. They maxed out every single like every single bit of luck and karma that possibly had. And then Sam Darnold with about two minutes left in the game was like, oh, man, I got to win this. Okay, cool. Like Texas, it's very hard to tell people from Texas to be positive because like,

Florida fans or like anybody else who's had success, they're very spoiled. So they don't understand relatively where they are on the curve, right? There are no rebuilding years at Texas. Oh, well, let's introduce you to one because that's this year. But yeah, this is, you had a freshman on the road who led them to a tie late, got an O.T. And then did what freshmen do, which is, you know, get stripped or commit some other sort of relative. relatively minor oversight that has major sort of effects on how the game is going to

pan out. Yeah, this is all feels right. This all feels like exactly where you should be. It always sucks when those errors are like, oh, you tried too much. You should have tried just like 10% less. Yeah, when you don't actually, when everything you've been taught actually

works against you when they're like, yeah, you're going to try for that extra yard as opposed to, kid, get down. You got to understand. There's a lot of big people. They're very mean out here. they want to kick your ass you need to just chill and live another down it's a hard thing to teach somebody especially

when they're like 19 they're like I got more in the tank we know it's never the problem here never I can stay awake for days we're no kid we know without the use of speed don't bother don't bother old miss isn't going to look that good yeah no no no

that's that's that's that's very much like it's a little sort of counterintuitive to be like you should try a little less but Texas like Texas played their balls off I don't and can I tell you

the Texas road contingent at the Coliseum a bunch of respect they did that thing where they like clapped for their young team afterwards they were in the game they were exactly what you think a bunch of like Yehuis from Texas there were some people who were

there were some people who did Texas wear right and then there were some people who just did pure Texas cosplay like there was a guy in chaps there right chaps bandana cowboy hat whole thing

in the middle of the game that's a cop that's a cop dressed up like a there was a guy dressed up like a cow there was a guy on a horse there was a guy robbing a train I told you there was a there was a guy tried to tied to a railroad track

it was weird there was a guy out there complaining about immigrants yeah it was like super tex Oh, hello listener. It's your least favorite voice on the shutdown forecast. Ryan Nanny here reminding you that we're raising money for the victims of Harvey and Irma. You can go to Every Day Should Be Saturday to find out exactly where your money should go if you want to get a read on this podcast. We're going to start doing those next week. They will be just as stupid and meandering and a waste of everyone's time as our regular ad reads. So get excited about that. Go give money. We're collecting money through the end of September. But why wait? Time is a lie. Life a mystery. What else have we missed? I mean, listen, Vanderbilt scored the biggest one of the weekend. We all know that. 14-7 over Kansas State. A lot of people were tweeting at Spencer and I during the Tennessee Florida game being like, oh, you know, this is the real El Asico. We need to transfer the title. Friend, wait until the

Florida Vanderbilt game. I'm willing to concede the possibility for that. Tennessee, Florida has too much, like, zaniness, unintentional. It's sort of, you know, watching. It's like Chevy Chase trying to fuck himself. Vanderbilt, Florida, that will be Chevy Chase trying to fuck himself in a molasses swamp. Yeah. I would also like to shout out Gary Patterson of DCU for in taking the iron skillet, deeply underrated. rivalry trophy, and beating SMU 56 to 36, TCU coach Gary Patterson,

angry because he feels like they should have scored 80. At one point, at one point it kind of looked like they were going to need to, so. Yeah, I just, I enjoy someone who's mad that they always scored 56. They, I mean, they got off to a slow start in this game, Virginia Tech got off to a slow start against a bad ECU team, and they both won comfortably. It's fine. Don't overreact. You're fine, Garrett, just chill.

Also, I'm happy to report that we're probably going to get, like, a top 15 Washington State team against USC in two weeks on a Friday. On a Friday. In Pullman. In Pullman, that's what I was going to say. After USC plays, I'm squinting, but whatever. USC doesn't have a buy week, so I'm sure they'll be tired. USC plays Cal, which at the beginning of the season, we're just like, ah, just Cal. Cal is 3 and O and might have a defense?

Am I reading this right? Is that true? Yeah, that's what the numbers suggest. Yeah, because they just need to see a little bit of you because Jay Patterson got off to a massive start for Old Miss. and that all just ground to a halt real fast once they figured out what Old Miss was doing. Old Miss had one move, and it was like, is that all you got? And Old Miss was like, yeah, that's actually all we have. That's the one.

That's just yoga fire. That's just yoga fire. That's the only move I learned. Is that cool? It's all we got. What team is nothing but yoga flame? Like the one that doesn't move anywhere? Yoga flame.

I guess that's Wisconsin. If it hits you, it's your own fault. I'm just calling Wisconsin for the rest of the season. I'm calling Wisconsin Fat Kid. That's it. I feel like, man, don't let Fat Kid do that to you. Like, it's super dangerous, and you can't win without going near it. But my personal favorite thing that I saw all day Saturday was James Franklin, calling a timeout up 56 to nothing, last play of the game against Georgia State.

He later explained this with, well, we had our four. fourth team special teams out there and they literally didn't know how to line up which like even that begs the question of like why was it super important that they line up they could do what like is georgia stay going to fake it but i did that that that that was just very very good a lot of people perceive that as savage ruthlessness and like it i mean it kind is even if you have a gameplay reason for it it's still like that's that's just sadistic man like and all you cared about was properly defending

Georgia State's sad field goal I have so much respect for that move I did want to go ahead and just give you the thing that I enjoyed most which was deep within the recesses of Old Miss Cal a game which will be forgotten

probably should be forgotten left of the midst of time there will be an image that archived forever on the internet taken by Nick Pants. It doesn't work for SB Nation and screen capture

of an old miss fan. Two of them actually, because I think the contrast is necessary. One old miss fan intense watching the game bent over in that urban mire position with his hands on his knees right? And

clearly very concerned with how everything is going to go and then another looking down with his vape pen in hand blowing the biggest goddamn cloudbuster I have ever seen in my life just letting it just letting it fly like man them rebels

it was the timing of it too because it came right after Ole Miss gave up a touchdown or a long game or something like that it was you know it was like an immediate response it was like what you want to see from a winner when they score you want to swing right back can we can we take that and can we photoshop it next to the pit fans who fell asleep at the pit game remember if you stayed for the whole game

you got a beverage you got a diet cola you got a sweet tea they just give you they just give you a cup of A cup of ketchup. It's his french fries on ice. What is this? Yeah, I'll take, I'll take a, I'll take a tab of that.

Oh, it's a Pittsburgh Sprite. It's a blirty Murrow. Go punthers.