Shutdown Fullcast - Shutdown Fullcast 7.27 - Introducing Louisville's New Athletic Director

Episode Date: September 28, 2017

It's Spencer because come on he can't screw it up worse than the status quo. Other topics this week include:Why Washington State will win the national championshipFlorida pivoting to the flexboneDO NO...T DISRESPECT DARUDEWays for Georgia-Tennessee to make both parties feel shittyCaveat emptor and Purdue And lots of thank you reads to you, our generous listeners who have given a whole bunch of money to help hurricane victims. Y'all are the best. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the shutdown forecast. My goodness, we're coming up on week five. Cinco, Cinco, Cinco, Cinco, Cinco, Cinco, Cinco. And we're going to preview those games. So we are going to go ahead and on, you know, maybe the most frivolous of all sports podcasts, really. We're going to go ahead and take a moment to pay some debts. Because even a silly podcast like this one, we run in the red sometimes. We particularly run in the red when we ask something of you, the listener.
Starting point is 00:00:30 and you pay off. You pay off spectacularly, above and beyond any reasonable expectations every single time. In fact, I can say, and I think my two co-host, Jason Kirk, Ryan Nanny, will agree with me the least disappointing part of this show
Starting point is 00:00:46 for all of us disappointments, the listeners. Is that correct, Ryan? I would tend to agree with that. I mean, there's one exception. One listener. There's one listener we're disappointed with. Yeah, it's me, the one who edits it because I listened to it at the same time. No, y'all have been killing it on our charity drive to help victims of the three recent hurricanes
Starting point is 00:01:07 that have struck Texas and Florida and the Caribbean, specifically Puerto Rico. We are, I mean, I'm way behind on the count. Again, I'm bad at my job and everything involved in it, but we are, I'm pretty sure by the end of, by the time this comes out, I'm betting we're going to hit $10,000 raised for the charities and that's awesome and we deserve no credit for it whatsoever because we didn't do it you did it you you're the ones who did all of it you're the only good part of this podcast if we could somehow reverse the polarity so that the podcast was you and jason spencer and i listened to it number number one on iTunes absolutely fuck cereal with three with three steady listeners
Starting point is 00:01:50 that's fine because if it was restricted yeah we'd be that dedicated yeah i mean not only do all produce the majority of the actual useful content for this show via sending us questions and hot takes. You know, you also give us, like, one thing to associate ourselves with of actual physical, tangible, redeeming quality. And who saw that coming? Not I. Not I. We, like I said, we're going to thank everybody who's contributed to this campaign over the course of the season because we can't do it all over the course of a couple shows. But Lane Kerosick, Jordan Hill, Jim Jones, Jason Ringer, shouts out to all of you. Zachary Sawyer Tribble.
Starting point is 00:02:40 That's right. Somebody out there in the world is named Zachary Sawyer Tribble, like the Star Trek animal, listens to this podcast, donated to charity, and specifically said, here is my full name. I'm fine if you discuss it. Zachary you are living an amazing life you can do anything do you know how I know that
Starting point is 00:03:01 because you made it this far and your name is Zachary Sawyer Tribble my last name is Nanny and I've barely done anything but you've proven that you don't have to be saddled you don't have to be limited by what your name is
Starting point is 00:03:14 Spencer Hall sounds like it should be some sort of regal British hunter look what he's done yeah nothing close to that Jason Kirk is a fine name. I don't have real strong feelings about it one way or the other. Wait, what's your middle name, Jason?
Starting point is 00:03:33 Oh, you don't know Jason's middle name? We've discussed this before. Yeah. We've discussed this on here before, at least twice. It's Earl, the name. Earl, right. Yeah, I mean, we recycle content. No worries there. Jason Earl Kirk is definitely a presidential assassin name.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Yeah, but Earl Kirk, that's like. Earl Kirk, man, that's a tight end. right earl kirk 12 yard reception well the other thing you could do is you know you know how like you know how like jeb bush's name first name is not jeb right what yeah jeb bush's full name is john ellis bush and he just goes by jeb for short so you could be jack if he wanted to uh-huh Spencer could be... We have other people we have to think, though. Do you want to do that now?
Starting point is 00:04:28 Do you want to dive into the week? How do you all want to do this? This show has no structure or purpose. It's sort of like a manatee. The first thing I want to do is I do want to... I know that when we contributed above a certain threshold, right? Yeah. We were going to read something that this person wanted us to read, correct?
Starting point is 00:04:47 Yep. So what I want to do is try this. Let's go ahead and do the first one. I'll take the first one that applies to me. Go for you. Okay? And this is from, that would be from Mark. He says, my only wish is for you and Spencer to admit you want Florida to adopt the flex bone.
Starting point is 00:05:11 And let me just tell you. Yeah. I have to, he paid money for this, right? Right. So I have to, I'll admit it, all I want is for Florida to line up with the A back, a wing back, and a B back, and just move those chains, man. Just move those chains. We can't pass anyway. You seen us?
Starting point is 00:05:31 Let's eliminate that problem completely, shorten the game. So here's what would be valuable about that to me. If Florida, if Florida decided, yep, we're a flex bone team now, then Georgia ostensibly is more prepared for the Georgia. Georgia Tech game at the end of the season. And then if they lose the Georgia Tech, that's even funnier. Oh, definitely. I think it's, I think it's a pro. I think the days, quarterbacks are unnecessary, you know? Look at the NFL. The NFL is thriving. They have like four quarterbacks. Don't look at the NFL. Don't fact check any of this. I'm sure it's doing fine. But like most NFL teams don't need a quarterback. Why do we? Why should Florida? Let's just be done with it. Let's be
Starting point is 00:06:15 Let's evolve past that. The quarterback is the appendix of the offense. Nobody knows what it does or why it's there. All that can happen is that it can get inflamed and kill you. So people always say that, you know, the option can't work at major college football these days, which is totally ignorant because every offense at every level uses the option to some degree, even if it's only in passing routes or only in QB progressions, you know, the air raid could in some ways be considered an option-friendly.
Starting point is 00:06:45 offense but even if we're only talking about the triple option the flex bone it has been demonstrated that it works in the swamp was that thank you fuck man no that's no no no it's fine no we're you know what let's let's keep diving down this this is from mike spears michael spears reminds florida that they gave up a 3310 lead to brock berlin they sure did i sure was at that game i sure did i sure did experience it Yep. Thanks. God, charity is hard. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:07:19 We do it out of love. We do it because it's all for a good cause. And also because that's just facts, man. Ron Zook's defense couldn't defend an in-cut. They just called an in-rout, called the dig route, like 400 times in a row. We never defended. I do. Would y'all like to know what Brock Berlin is doing now per LinkedIn?
Starting point is 00:07:40 I would. Sure. He sells medical devices. with Johnson and Johnson. I did not know that. That's amazing. It's also not football, which is very good for you. What's confusing is if you go to Brock Berlin's LinkedIn page, it lists his experience.
Starting point is 00:08:01 It says education, University of Miami, 2002 to 2004, how dare you leave out Florida. You did go to school there in theory. And then it says that currently he's a territory leader at James. and J, whatever that means. And previously, he was within a different division. He was selling medical devices in Shreveport. Maybe he still is in Shreveport. But for some reason, associated with, like, I kind of have to show you guys what I'm
Starting point is 00:08:30 talking about here, and I'm going to drop it to you. The Rams logo is next to it. I don't think the Rams, the L.A. Rams, are affiliated with medical device sales, but I can't prove that they're not. i mean jeff fisher basically is a contraceptive so that's not well yeah over the past um 10 years the rams franchise it's sort of been you know just dude dude dude you know feel like you're feel like you're like you're watching the plug it's just yet to be pulled yeah i was gonna say you know i'm living in an EKG it's usually like eight bars above the midline and then eight bars above the midline
Starting point is 00:09:12 and then eight far below and it returns. Yeah. Is this going to give me full mobility? It'll be 50% of what you had, buddy. But you know what? That's better than 50%. Yeah, that's something. So, you know, it's six on one hand.
Starting point is 00:09:25 It's better than Rod Marinelli medical devices. Who. Who, man alive. That Greg Shiano, like, port. You don't want that. That's got sepsis written all over. Sorry, sorry, sorry. This knee replacement,
Starting point is 00:09:42 it comes with MRSA on it. Yep. You're going to get it anyway, so get it out of the way. That's the way I view it. It's a, that makes it biodegradable. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. This could kill me. Yep.
Starting point is 00:09:56 All right. Go back, guys. He'll be badass, though, won't you? Speaking of someone who's survived things and, you know, can run a two-minute drill, hell, he can run a less than a minute drill. I do want to take a moment to note that I don't know. I don't know if it's the sister sport. I sort of think of as like the stepbrother that has semi-bague relations with college football.
Starting point is 00:10:25 That'd be the entire college basketball world blowing up because of not a recruiting scandal, right? Because we have recruiting scandals in college football. And sometimes there's some violations of the law. that happen when you get into improper benefits. But y'all college basketball got a federal corruption probe. Federal. Federal charges. And when this happened, when the FBI in the Southern District of New York,
Starting point is 00:10:57 like it started leaking that this was happening, my mind was like, well, this is probably connected to gambling or organized crime. But yeah, no, it's just pretty much standard practice. just pretty uh pretty much the thing that we all thought was happening is happening and guess what it's a federal crime that's cool that's fun yeah come to find out that the way college basketball works is actually illegal like oh okay that so that the thing we've been doing for a hundred years we were we just weren't supposed to do any of that oh okay well you could have said something earlier like the capital i kind of illegal
Starting point is 00:11:39 right the kind that follows you all to hell so one random note here the way we record this podcast on Wednesdays makes it's in case you're just now joining us makes it so spencer and i are literally on different time lengths so i interrupt him like crazy because i can't hear him start talking
Starting point is 00:12:01 until i'm like three sentences in just in case you're just in case you're wondering about that. It's fine. I'll fix it all in post. I won't fix it in post. No, I won't fix it in post. But yeah, if you're interested, let's spend this in the positive way, right? Maybe you're looking for a change of career. Maybe whatever you do out there right now isn't satisfying to you, isn't challenging, and you just like to change. That's totally helpful. Listen, I can speak to that. I am somebody who started out doing one thing, and now I do something. completely different. Would you like to be athletic director at Louisville? It's open. You'll get to hire a basketball coach. That's fun, right? You might get to work with Tom Crean as it turns out.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Spencer, have you considered being the AD at Louisville just so you could talk shit to Tom Crean to his face? Just so you could come up to him every day and just be like, hey, so here's the Twitter search for the day. Here's what people are saying about you. Just wanted you to know. Okay, you can leave my office now, fuck face? Oh, the number of things I would do in a negligent, possibly criminal fashion as athletic director of Louisville. Well, first of all, evidently, that's not a problem. It might be a requirement for the job based on this case and based on previous hires.
Starting point is 00:13:21 But yeah, oh, I'm talking all kinds of shit. I'm going to talk about, like, I'll be like, I'm over on the other side of the river. I got all this water between you and me and Indiana. Like, aren't you jealous? God, I'm not in Indiana. Tom Crean, you have to live in Indiana every day. You have to be Tom Crean in Indiana every day where you can walk around with your eight sizes,
Starting point is 00:13:41 two big pants, and just yank them all the way up to your nipples like it's a gangster movie from the 30s. While you sit in the corner going, yeah, yeah! That's the noise Tom Crean makes. I know he does. He has to pretend he's normal, and then he's sort of just like scar faces out at home. You see?
Starting point is 00:13:59 That's what I would do. I am also confused. If the reports that came out today are true, somebody lost their job because they refused to fire Rick Petino. What? Oh, he didn't expect that to happen. There's zero chance. Or G videotape.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Which would also not be surprising at Louisville. There's, there are plot lines here. And, you know, you never know when something that you thought was resolved in episode one comes back in episode 15. Listen, the important thing is that in times of trouble, you need a steadying hand. You need somebody who can guide you morally, motorcycally. Bobby Petrino is there. And they're going to get through this, y'all. They're going to get through this.
Starting point is 00:14:55 The man with the 50% lessened buyout. the man who was in his contract signed forward with Tom Jurich that if Jurich goes, listen, these two are so tied to each other that Jurich is staking his reputation on Bobby Petrino to such a degree that if Jurich leaves, it'll cost half as much to steal the coach away as several teams have done over the course of history. And now Bobby Petrino's buyout just fell from, 8.5 million to 4.25 million, which ain't nothing to, you know, say several SEC schools. This is like when Whole Foods announced that avocados were only going to cost, like, what, like a dollar or two bucks, right?
Starting point is 00:15:42 They're like, yeah, we're having the price of avocados. I'm like, there's a run on patrino. This avocado might sleep with your wife. Ah, you know what? It's cheap, though. There's also this. There's Arkansas, like, doing everything they possibly can. committing vast, like, rooms full of researchers and legal assistance and lawyers to go through
Starting point is 00:16:06 the contract and find some way, anyway, of cutting Brett Bilema's massive buyout. Like, they're like, come on, Cotocil 6A's got a budge, y'all. Let's find a way to do it. Is it like, there's one line in Burt's contract that's like, if Bobby Petrino's buyout falls below $5 million. Burt's buyout also falls below $5 million. Bring, bring, bring, bring, bring, bring, bring, bring, bring, bring, bring, bring, $10 million. Honestly, I think if you're Arkansas, you just pay off a genetics lab to be like, oh, well,
Starting point is 00:16:42 you know, we looked at his blood and it turns out, um, yeah, he's full Hawkeye. He's a direct, he's a direct descendant. I think this is where we get extremely nativist, right? And we just go, because this plays well in Arkansas anyway, right? You're like, let's blame an immigrant. Okay, well, cool. Nation of Arkansas, I don't need to take anything about Arkansas from somebody who's not 100% hog. And those people are born here.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Just try it. Brett Ferrence. Brett Ferrence. It rolls off the tongue, right? We can convince Kirk Ferrence that Brett is his true son and that Brian is the imposter. and boom he's the head coach in waiting at Iowa and you can't be the head coach in waiting in Iowa and the head coach in Arkansas
Starting point is 00:17:31 that's ridiculous they're just doing the Ference test like are you really my son goes up makes an offensive formation with six linemen Brett Beelma goes up there and is like well seven linemen like find me a way to do eight let's do eight come on Brett
Starting point is 00:17:49 Brett what's the ideal number of plays to running a game on offense 12 Ah, I see the test is coming back even more positive. Look at that. You are the father. Mori Popovich is just, just can't believe what he's seeing. Let's talk about week, let's talk about week five a little bit. It's a confusing week in that the games, there are interesting games, but they're not in the spots that they're supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:18:17 This is sort of one of those meals that you eat all out of order. It's a cafeteria meal is what it is. You put it all on your tray, and then you're like, ah, fuck it. I'm going to have frozen yogurt first. Later, I'll have corn. It's fine. Although I guess we're starting with corn in some ways. Yeah, we're starting with corn.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Yeah, so it's not, fuck. This is already getting away from me. We're starting with corn dessert with corn, corn yogurt, corn pie? Corn, corn suflay, corn suflay. Texas is going to Iowa State Thursday night. gentlemen your feelings we've already we've always overestimated Ames as a place right
Starting point is 00:19:00 because they got clean water the cleanest water wasn't that the thing they were advertising Ames Ames has water I think yeah I was water and people I think that was all they could reliably lay claim to well
Starting point is 00:19:13 clean people take baths here that's 50% more than the state of Georgia's got so got people water A little scarce. Also, definition of people varies greatly. Looking at you, Augusta.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Terrifying. Basically, like, Roadhouse, the city. That's what Augusta is. The whole thing. I would say this, too. On Friday night, we have a banger. Like an absolute banger that has, for me, all of the hallmarks of the, like,
Starting point is 00:19:49 gumball light, emergency warning, system blaring kind of matchup in a conference game. That's right. It's Nebraska at Illinois, 8 o'clock in champagne. Bubbles, bubbles, bubbles, bubbles, bubbles, bubbles. Is that not? There's definitely no sex in that champagne room. None. not what you would not what you not what you not what you not what you not what you not what you
Starting point is 00:20:20 not what you normies would consider sex anyway no welcome welcome to the align I love then sad masturbation that doesn't go anywhere yeah there's that that um that and that is not the game I was referring to what I was referring to is a game uh USC has to go play Washington state on a Friday night let us review the number of ways in which this is screaming trouble for USC one short week you're on a Friday two substantial amount of travel not looking it up number of miles between Los Angeles and Pullman Washington conservatively it's 4,000 miles seems right yep yeah feels right and you know what it's in my heart feels right I'm gonna go with it it's gotten this
Starting point is 00:21:12 nation to where we are today and it's working just fine also this is a team USC how their last two games is it best to say that they are figuring things out and still winning I mean like Sam Darnold throwing a ton of picks yeah they're still
Starting point is 00:21:29 they're a little bit all over the map right now which that'll happen I guess I mean I guess but Sam Sam Darnold's like super pressing doesn't seem to be on the same page with his receivers quiet yet defenses look pretty good I gave up some substantial yardage to Cal, though.
Starting point is 00:21:49 And if you're going to give up substantial yardage to Cal, meet my friend Washington State. USC right now is 55th in the nation in yards per play allowed. Sandwiched basically in between TCU and Indiana. So fine, but not like, oh shit, look out. It's still a better challenge than they've faced yet. Right? Like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:13 I watched USC at home go to OT. with Texas with a red shirt freshman quarterback and it honestly like you're watching it and like they did not have they had control for most of the game like better teams sometimes have in really tight games and then just kept forcing mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake to keep Texas in it oh and here's the other thing uh there's absolutely no way USC is up for this game as Washington state is none none here's the scary thing Washington State didn't do that thing where they lost to an FCS game. I don't know what their behavior pattern is now.
Starting point is 00:22:51 I'm so used to Washington State loses an FCS game, has like three or four games to figure it out, and then just finishes on a blue streak. That's not what's happened here. They're undefeated, and the defense is playing pretty well. And that's enough to go, well, we got to tussle. I mean, Washington State's going to win the national title. You all know that, right?
Starting point is 00:23:12 Or lose it to an FCS team. No, Washington State is going to win the national title. the national title because this is this is the world where Donald Trump's in the White House and Mike Leach is his best coaching pal so it's just just understand that it's going to happen will he be this mean was he was like appointed national champ yeah I mean look that's why the pats won the Super Bowl we all know that was fixed that's why shit Bobby night is Bobby night is probably going to win the college basketball title this year I don't know how oh wait at Louisville Louisville you're winning a college basketball title this year
Starting point is 00:23:45 with head coach Bobby Knight. Congratulations. The only way I can see Mike Leach in Washington State not winning the national title is if Lou Holtz somehow takes... Oh, you know what? Lou Holtz, you're probably going to get
Starting point is 00:23:58 a coaching job at the end of the season. I don't know where. It doesn't really matter. Georgia. You know what? Something's going to happen. Something's going to happen. Kirby is going to step away,
Starting point is 00:24:09 take an NFL job before the playoffs starts. Lou Holtz is going to step in, lead Georgia to a national title, Lou Holtz, Georgia football legend, White House visit. It's all, like, just look at the pattern.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Just, this is easy to see. Scott Bayo, best actor, kid rock, best album. I mean, I never saw the problem with Labanthrom. Labenthram is, Labenthram just means living room.
Starting point is 00:24:37 That's where you relax. That's where you put on the TV and you watch some CSI and you just relax. That's what Labanthrom is. Here's how I know this is right. The media won't talk about it. Mainstream media, look it up. They won't talk about any of this.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Find me the mainstream media that says Washington State's going to win the national title. Absolutely won't talk about it. You know why? They're scared of the truth. They're absolutely scared of it. Go wazoo. Go cooks. Brian.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Brian Floyd. Constant guests of the full cast. Your thoughts? Exactly. just silent confidence that's all i'm here that's just he has he has no objection to what i'm saying that's what i'm hearing and then there's saturday saturday is going to be painful in in the start of the day like it is hard for me to point to anything at noon and say you should watch that there was potentially one exception and that was going to be maryland at minnesota and i know that sounds
Starting point is 00:25:39 a little like bat shit but Minnesota's undefeated Maryland did beat Texas I think Jason might be the quarterback at Maryland like three quarterback injury right yeah I'm pretty nervous I don't think you should do it
Starting point is 00:25:55 I don't think you should and let me be clear I'm not saying I don't think you should be quarterback for Maryland I don't think Maryland should have a quarterback I think we should recognize that that's just a position of hazard and in the same way that we don't have leaded gasoline anymore we you just say like, oh, yeah, there used to be a time where Maryland had a quarterback,
Starting point is 00:26:12 but we found out it was killing kids, so we don't do it anymore. It's Retson. We got to put it on the label, let people know there's Maryland in this. We took the asbestos out of this offensive formation. Now it's just a running back. Now it's just a center, snapping the ball straight up into the air. It's safer this way. I mean, the curiosities on the noon ship for me are the following that we have. We have not Vanderbilt at Florida. No, no. That people, people keep asking us like which Florida SEC East game should be the new
Starting point is 00:26:47 Al-A-A-Cocco. It's absolutely Vandy, Florida. Absolutely Vandy, Florida. I don't know who's going to win. It's going to be 10-7. That's how this game goes under Jim McElwain, and that's how it's been for quite a while. The games that were at least sort of worth, I guess, you know, keeping a toe in would be, Syracuse at NC State, NC State, fresh, off and upset of Florida State, probably feeling
Starting point is 00:27:14 pretty good about themselves. Remember we were talking about signs that you're in trouble in a game? This is a noon kick after a big game. That means, like, you got a massive letdown and a Syracuse team that pushed LSU hard into the fourth quarter. I think a team that probably will, you know, in a month or so feel like, you know, if nobody gets injured, they're going to be rounding into form. And this could be one of those moments where, Syracuse is like really set to to up in things and upset North Carolina State. That said, they're still Syracuse. They're very exciting.
Starting point is 00:27:50 They're still Syracuse. So that's a hedged bet. The other one that keep an eye on in the early slot. Do you like defense? That's cool. I don't. North Carolina at Georgia Tech. Let it roll, boys.
Starting point is 00:28:07 The open road. Not a roadblock in sight. Let's just see how much mileage you can get. What is North Carolina's record at this point? God, they're one in three. Yeah, yeah. Do you like super aggressive offenses with absolutely no defense to back it up whatsoever? Right?
Starting point is 00:28:25 Georgia Tech can at least play a little defense. North Carolina, they've been playing with a red card every single game. Ten defenders on the field. Ten defenders. Just doing a great job to be one and three with. That's Kentucky's move. You know that. Yes, no, no, that's literally Kentucky's move.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Me, ha-ha, making a joke where somebody actually doesn't have 11 men on the field. You, literal. Actually, Kentucky only had 10 men on the field. We're not making anything up! And Florida skillfully took advantage of that mismatch. That's right. So that's offensive planning. Listen, a punt in some way is really just a corner.
Starting point is 00:29:09 kick, right? It's fine. We're all soccer fans. Oh. I'm going to use that as a shameless transition to some more love for our generous listeners. This is from Lee. Hurricanes are rough because you get out and leave almost everything behind and you may find it wrecked when you come back. And that's good preparation for Aggie football because you can comfortably evacuate the bar at half and come back to find your team in ruins. You know, A&M at this point is willing to do that in but in either way. Whatever you think is going to happen, A&M is pretty reliably going to say like,
Starting point is 00:29:43 nah, it's not that. There's a twist. Hello, welcome to M Night Shyamalan's the college football team. It's exciting and you're going to get sick of it and you're going to wonder how this person keeps their job. So, so, so, so, so long. Lee wants you to know that you will find Florida versus Nebraska on TV,
Starting point is 00:30:02 only it's women's volleyball. I think this is a little bit old. and the lady and the underdog lady gators will sweep nebraska and you'll have found something you never knew you always wanted but always needed the full cast is now exclusively about cc volleyball i'm going to look this up um because spencer did you go to any volleyball games at florida i did actually i think i went there when the uh big star on the ladies volleyball team was i signed gokber from turkey so yeah florida florida florida florida Florida Women's Volleyball is the program at the school with which I feel the most emotional connection.
Starting point is 00:30:42 And I know that sounds weird, but Mary Wise is an awesome coach. They consistently have like a really good team. They haven't won a national championship, but they're 9-0 this year. They did in fact beat Nebraska. Early in the season, they beat number one, Texas. See, Texas, you're number one. You know what? we should all get into volleyball because that's where everything's better.
Starting point is 00:31:08 You know who was number 19? Florida State. You know who's not ranked in volleyball? Tennessee. So some things are still true, unfortunately. Yeah. But by and large, yeah, you know, I'm not totally opposed to making this an SEC volleyball podcast, although I don't know. Listen, if we're talking about SEC volleyball, we're back to talking Bobby Petrino.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Shit. oh hey we are shouting out people by the way i have an unrelated shout out yeah the full cast membership has its benefits both for you and for us revelator coffee just gave me like free coffee the other day just because what just because in the revelator coffee management superstructure we have a couple of full cast listeners so in return for that i'm bribable shout out revelator coffee based here in Atlanta and out of Birmingham. Delicious cold brew. There.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Look at that. I like that. I like that. You said, you said benefits for the listeners and us and then mention something the only you got. Legally, that means you can go to Spencer's house and he has to give you coffee. Oh, okay. Well, I guess I just thinking the listener doesn't have to listen to a sleepy Spencer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Ryan's an attorney. and legally he cannot lie. That's true. No lawyer. He'll get us out of this one. No lawyer can. That's why we're the greatest people in the world. Ever.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Ever. I will finish out our thank you ads for the week, or for the episode, rather. Thank you to Nick, who donated to show that Notre Dame isn't always trash. You know what? That's fair. It's just Notre Dame football that's always trash. Notre Dame basketball, fine with them. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:33:00 That hate just doesn't carry over. It's just Notre Dame football. Always trash. But Nick. Ted Leo. Ted Leo. Fine musician. Yep.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Great dude. Went to Notre Dame. Yep. So Nick, you and Ted Leo and Notre Dame basketball. You're all cool. Football? Aaron Gloria Ryan, entertaining reporter for the Daily Beast, I believe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:21 And last but not least for this week, Druid City Brewing, donated to our little effort here. Druid City is the group that besides their main endeavor, they're the ones that do all the good chalkboard drawings of Nick Saban in various rap albums and rock albums, right? Correct. Right. Fantastic.
Starting point is 00:33:44 I mean, they literally, again, Jason brought up that our listeners provide more of the content than we do. That's been true of Druid City for a long time. I have not been. I think Spencer has. I have. I've been on several occasions, and it is a magnificent place. If you are going to an Alabama football game to post up, have yourself a couple of their delicious locally brewed beers. Parlay with Bo Hicks, the mayor of Tuscaloosa himself. You can spot him because he looks like my brother. He has a big beard and big glasses and will happily escort you around the premises. And if you're very nice, may even let you pick final, although I will tell you, putting on hip hop before, like, dark in Tuscaloosa's generally frown on there.
Starting point is 00:34:30 It's like, oh, no, man, it's early. We ain't ready for that, you know, but they've come a long way. So you can go ahead and put that on. They have a fine collection of old vintage sort of country albums that you can put on whilst you watch football, enjoy a couple of delicious craft brews, and then walk, I'm not kidding you, like seven minutes to the stadium. It's very close. So thank you, Drew, a city brewing.
Starting point is 00:34:53 It's fantastic. Do you know who has not come a long way? Rutgers. They came a long way back from Nebraska. Okay, that is literally true. And they hung with Nebraska. Like, they didn't win, but I'm pretty sure they covered. I think the spread in that game was 11 and they only lost by 10.
Starting point is 00:35:15 So things are going great in Nebraska. Don't worry about it. Do you think Nebraska is the one school that is disappointed that they're not caught up in the FBI? And they're like, oh, oh, that would have been, oh, perfect. Be like, it's not about football. Be like, yeah, we would have found a way. Don't worry about it. It happened while Mike Riley was here.
Starting point is 00:35:33 That counts. Ruckers, though. You have to, okay, you have to play Ohio State. It's how divisions work. And you have to host them every other year because that's how scheduling works. Do you have to do it at 7.30 at night on Big Ten Network? I somebody else made that choice for you man that's not fair I understand that part of living in 2017 is that we can watch basically anything whenever we want it's all available to us we can watch it on our phones we can watch it on tablets computers you know in a cab on a fucking plane whatever I feel like we've gone too far I feel like there are some things where we should say yes Ohio State is playing Rutgers For reasons of decency and respect, we won't be airing that game.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I enjoy that you vaulted over the only major block of quality games outside of just dig right into Rutgers, Ohio State. You just pulled some Shoney's breakfast bar bullshit where you skip all the meats and everything to get straight to the like half-eaten tub of bacon bits at the end of the South. That's right. I am the waiter bringing you the check and you wanted dessert, but I didn't ask. I didn't ask if you wanted dessert. Just get the fuck out of the restaurant.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Dude, you skipped the main course. I need this. Here, you got bread. You got bread and butter. That's it. I need this table. Man, I really want to listen to Rosa Parks. Nope, we're skipping straight to Mommacita.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Fine. Fine. Go back through the afternoon. What is the game that you're most looking forward to? It was right goes Ohio State. Oh, well, shit. For being 100. I would, the 330 block is great.
Starting point is 00:37:28 There's a lot of bitter, a lot of surprising, a lot of potential here. I really am looking, I'm intrigued for both reasons of morbid curiosity, genuine intellectual interest and absolute malice at what could happen when a damage dinged, battered, and yet proud Florida State team goes to the the cauldron of hatred that is Wake Forest. Wake Forest is undefeated, y'all. Wake Forest has been beating bad team, but they have been beating them thoroughly.
Starting point is 00:38:00 So am I here for the like once a decade studying defeat of Florida State at the hands of the Wake Forest Demon Deacons? Oh, listener, I am. Waiting with money in hand. Take it from me and give me what I want. Is that going to happen? I mean, probably not. Florida State's a much more talented team.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Are they in a good place? psychologically speaking spiritually speaking no no the florist state's in a very bad spot right now they're probably going to have to make some changes in the coaching staff after the season they're also going to north carolina so physically they're in a bad spot wow i didn't know you have that in you most people just slander the southern carolina i mean they i i i enjoy their meats the way they the way they cook their meats and the things they put on their meats I'm just kidding. No, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:38:51 I just didn't expect it. No, I respect the play fake. I was like, whoa, end around. That's true. That's true. He got us distracted, and he's probably stolen our identities in the meantime. Because Jason really is a Florida fan, and that's the kind of thing that he would do at this point. So, now let's talk about how badly the Gators are going to Wend-Bilt.
Starting point is 00:39:11 A team with a ranked win this year, and no other games. just played the one just the one game uh no that's that's not that's not at this point i would like to say this one i am feeling a little bit bad for ralph webb because he came into the season i mean he would have needed to have a really fantastic senior year to break the SEC career rushing record but it was at least on the table and through four games vanderbilt's offense has been just dismal. He's, he's averaging less than three yards of carry. He's only on 169 yards through those four games.
Starting point is 00:39:56 I, please don't watch this game. Please, please, please, please don't watch this game. Please. I'm begging you. Don't watch this game. Please. You got me. No problem.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Yeah, Georgia at Tennessee. I, I, I enjoyed this game because, I don't really know what's going to happen. This just feels like the kind of game that now that Georgia came out, made a bold statement by dismantling Mississippi State. Also after beating Notre Dame in a close game on the road, it would be only logical for them to absolutely botch this game and destroy and not destroy Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:40:41 No, right? No. Go ahead. I hear what you're saying, and yes, I understand that the SEC East universe works in those ways, but that would be too good for Butch Jones at this point. And I just don't see, this is not, this is not his year. This is not. 2017 is not the year where things go well. So I think we've demonstrated on this show that we, whether we actually tell you who's going to win or not, we can tell you what the vibe will be. You know, we can tell you how you feel about it. Like a couple weeks ago, Florida,
Starting point is 00:41:14 you know it'll be terrible for 55 minutes and then it'll be dumber than you can possibly believe georgia tennessee georgia coming in as you know a big hyped you know potential national title team and you know tennessee completely collapsing we have to get out of this with both sides feeling bad the way to do that is um Tennessee builds up a huge lead Georgia comes back and wins now georgia fans you know you're you're concerned about what tennessee was able to do against your defenses look great so far. Tennessee fans, you're,
Starting point is 00:41:50 you know, you just watched Bush Jones top himself yet again. There is another path. I feel bad saying it, but there is.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Georgia wins this game easily. Let's say by four touchdowns. Jake Fromm gets injured. Ooh. Georgia, Tennessee is the game, is the game where you win,
Starting point is 00:42:11 but you also lose. Isn't Easton coming back pretty soon. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Georgia fans will still be pissed about it. They're just going to keep cycling through these white jakes. I got another one. I'm sure there's another few.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Jake Busey's on the team. Yeah, man, he looks great. 38, getting a grad degree. MFA. Put him out there. Stand tall in that pocket, Jake. Loved you in Starship Troopers. Jake Giddis is on the team?
Starting point is 00:42:41 Yeah, it's weird. He got his nose cut with a switchblade. But he's still investigating the case of the Tennessee defense. Amazing. Tennessee will not win this game. It just won't happen. I appreciate that Spencer is willing to entertain it as a possibility, but also math. So.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Yeah. Math is, math is, math's kind of in the way of Bush Jones doing anything in this game. Night shift. I don't know. I got some respect for this night shift. People saying how bad it is, how lackluster it is. ain't there's, you know, I got palatable entertainment at 8 p.m. Eastern. Clemsonsons going to Virginia Tech.
Starting point is 00:43:20 People are just going to, when they look at this, they'll go, oh, man, Bud Foster. Well, I mean, Bud Foster doesn't play defense. The only coaches it, y'all. In addition to that. To be clear, that's not his choice. He would have. No, no, no. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:43:33 No, big, big boy would be out there with the neck roll if he could. And a lip in, right? Be like, wow, man, that guy made a real good tackle for, guy that runs a six eight but yeah we got some decent stuff we got some decent stuff in the late shift including at six p.m. Eastern oh yeah you got you got Mississippi State at Auburn and I love this game because we got both teams with a loss already they're hurt they're wounded animals Auburn still really sort of doesn't have you know like a functional offense that means they'll probably have like 500 yards game right because I just there's when Mississippi State plays
Starting point is 00:44:10 Alburn, nothing normal, accustomed, or predictable really ever happens. This is the rivalry that produced 3-2. I firmly believe that everybody will leave bruised, confused, and not entirely pleased is what happened, which means for the neutral bystander, outstanding entertainment. If you want to talk rivalry. I mean, I mean, there's another, there's another SEC game happening right around there. There's an even bigger SEC. Yeah, do it.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Rip it. Go for it. The biggest rivalry in the state of Texas, South Carolina, Texas, A&M. A&M's lifelong, most hated rival, there's a trophy. There's, that's about it. That's all you need, hardware. So intactal to exchange with your hands. Longhorns, never heard of them.
Starting point is 00:44:59 It makes sense because, you know, a man of agriculture would hate a Gamecock. Because a Gamecock is somebody, that's somebody who refuses to stick to the farm. he wants to be out there fighting no man your job is to wake me up you can't be up all night fighting then i'm not going to wake up and do the farming oh hate you gamecock you ruin my life see bad blood deep bad blood oceans i did actually have the thought during these solar eclipse i did have the thought when the sun was completely covered by the moon at one point watching it North Carolina and it covered it up and it got dark
Starting point is 00:45:40 and the roosters started crowing all around us there was like three or four of them they all started crowing because they thought it was getting dark and I was like God it's a stupid animal and then waited a beat and I was like go Gamecox baby go game God what better to represent
Starting point is 00:45:57 it's time you're sitting it's time the theme for 2000 Is there somebody in the state of South Carolina who has that to a custom, to like accompany their roosters in the morning? There has to be somebody who, at 6.15, when the light starts to break, right, when the rooster steps on a pressure sensitive piece of wood in the coop, right? Bum, bum, somebody has to have that. And then. Every fucking morning.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Every morning. No, there's somebody in South Carolina who is about that. Guarantee you. Complete with Sandstorm at the end. Probably sung by his wife who has to sing that every morning. Leonard. This is, of course, the rivalry where A&M defiled and contorted that very beloved anthem and at practice
Starting point is 00:47:05 after beating the Gamecox played do go do go do at practice and laughed at it. That's that hymn, that piece of holy music you can't take that Gamecox, Will Mushcham, you're so pissed about that how before you showed up, you're still mad.
Starting point is 00:47:23 I mean, there's nothing Will Buschamp can't be mad about. That's another fantastic thing about South Carolina and their rivalry with everybody that no matter who walks in the door all of those people from South Carolina
Starting point is 00:47:39 who are probably who are probably like universally opposed culturally to like them eurosissies with the fancy techno and their medicine that keeps people from being sick and literacy and can't take a gun into a sauna. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:56 That they're all rocking out to like the rude that they're all like, you know what? That fan can put it down. I only own one techno song. One. And it's Darude Sandstorm. Don't you dare kneel during Sandstorm. Don't you dare? Take a need during Sanstorm. Someone do it. I dare you. The worm in Dune died for this song. So here's what I like about the
Starting point is 00:48:31 this rivalry game they've played it three times and for South Carolina it's pretty much the same every time they lose they like score some but not nearly enough Texas A&M is sort of you go through it and it's sort of like
Starting point is 00:48:44 an element that's reducing it's got a half-life of a year first time they played A&M scored 52 points next year 35 points last year 24 points so we are slowly I mean in 10 years
Starting point is 00:48:59 this is going to be a game where A&M somehow scores negative 12 points. And you're not going to be sure how, but you're like, well, that's what science said. Had to happen. Folks, when these two get together, you throw out the record books just because you don't understand what's in them. Because it doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Ole Miss Alabama is not going to be a thing, is it? Oh, God. Oh, God. No. The line in that, isn't it like 28 points or something like that? Like, just something you should never see in an SEC game, like in a conference game. involving a team with you know four-star athletes at some positions and all that
Starting point is 00:49:35 if it does if it does though that means we have the season's most delicious result which is a transitive cow win over alabama more like calabama oh no suck we got Nobel prizes Alabama I'm hoping it happens topple in the bear Bryant statue the the The Antifa Bears. The Antifa Bears. Berkeley Antifa Bears. Just Justin Wilcox over there coaching in a gas mask.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Cal plays Oregon this week, which That's a game. Yeah. Oh, God damn it. That's a straight-up game. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to watch. You're going to watch it. You're going to watch it. You're going to watch. So 24 hours after USC and Washington State are goofing around at 2.30 a.m. Eastern. Cal and Oregon will be doing the same.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Colorado State and Hawaii will be in the third fucking quarter. Man, it's going to be a weekend. Which game? Okay, I'm excited now. Okay, what's, what game is going, what stadium is going to have worse attendance percentage? Colorado at UCLA for the start of the game or Georgia at Tennessee at the end of the game? well um i'm gonna go uceola georgia fans yeah spencer you go first i'm i'm just betting ucla because of rose bull traffic so there i rose bull traffic's undefeated
Starting point is 00:51:12 jason yeah yeah i mean i think i think georgia tennessee will be better populated just because once george and show up brother they're impossible to get rid of shit they're in the walls they're just they're just there's Before we end, we put out a call where the FBI, yeah, okay, New York's not a college football town. I'll admit it. And this, I can say that with confidence because the FBI, in light of this, these arrests that they put out throughout college basketball, they opened up a tip line. They said that they want relevant, I believe they put that in caps, information, called into this tip line. if you know anything untoward happening in college athletics. If you know of anything, I don't know, that might not be above board.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Hard to imagine, I know. So we asked you to tell us what you're calling the FBI's snitchin hotline to report about your rival. You'll have some thoughts. Jason or Spencer, if you all want to start with one, please do. I like this one from Chris Gates. Dana Holgerson took down the Belagio in Ocean's 11. I was with you up until the last few words, if you said,
Starting point is 00:52:24 a Circle K or a Stuckies, I would absolutely believe it. I enjoy this one from at beer underscore nigh. It's not really a claim. It says I'd called her out on Michigan, but they haven't been a part of any ring, any kind of ring, since 1997. Wow. Woo! Woo!
Starting point is 00:52:43 Drag them! From Jacob Manley at Jacob the Manley. Butch Jones is a UC plant in a desperate attempt to get Tennessee kicked out of the SEC so Cincinnati can take its place. I like it. I like it. From Morgan, Miss Flood on Twitter. Again, a lot of pit fans.
Starting point is 00:53:02 A lot of pit fans want to do some snitching. Penn State scheduled Akron for 12 weeks in a row. This is true and accurate. James Franklin said so. This is from at L.T. Water Malone. LSU turned the old Mike the tiger into corn dogs. Okay, listen. If they did, would that be so bad?
Starting point is 00:53:21 It's what he wanted. Yeah, I mean, they probably did the thing where they say, Mike, we thank you for, you know, for giving us the sacrifice of corn dogs. I mean, the LSU fan corn dog thing, like, that's a silly old internet thing. But if they actually did it, respect. This is, this one makes me mad. The alt chef, dude 3,000, Barry Alvarez wears loafers without socks, and it's gross. A picture is attached.
Starting point is 00:53:49 In reply, Andrew Chapman at A. Buddy, let me tell you about Jim McElwain. There's a picture of Jim McElwain, also wearing loafers without socks. And I'm looking between these two photos. And they're both just sort of leaning back in a chair, showing way too much ankle, because, and I'm just wondering, like, is Jim McElwain past Barry Alvarez? Is that a thing? Is Jim McAwayne going to end up the athletic director at Florida and keep coaching ball games?
Starting point is 00:54:24 Is that a thing? Yeah. Yeah, that's, that's, that's great, though. That's totally a thing. How about this one from, from Andrew Wibble, Weble, Wibble. One of those. Poyote on Twitter. Harbaugh uses the Purdue locker room as his personal S&M dungeon,
Starting point is 00:54:45 which, so, you know, over the past week, Harbaugh and Purdue have barked at each other over the quality of Purdue's locker rooms. You know, maybe the whole thing is. is Harbaugh just doesn't want to, just doesn't want to let on what, what he did with those, those filthy, shabby, very, very bad, naughty locker rooms. I think Purdue took the wrong course in responding. I mean, look, they took the sensible course in responding to Jim Harbaugh's complaints. They were like, actually, you know, we let everybody know that we don't have air conditioning in locker rooms, so we can help you, and we have medical facilities and whatever. And I think the answer should have just been, yeah, it's Purdue.
Starting point is 00:55:22 It's perfectly engineered. Just hit him with the, hey, what do you want? What do you want? I mean, it's sort of like, it's sort of like sending a complaint email to Spirit Airlines. I assume that if you do that, they just auto respond. Yeah, we're Spirit Airlines. Yeah, it's going to suck. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:44 What did you think? We just charge you a dollar to read this email.

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