Shutdown Fullcast - Shutdown Fullcast 7.34 - Any Given Notre Dame

Episode Date: October 23, 2017

Why is Jason only now revealing he's a lifelong Notre Dame fan? Which coaches are most eager to fight a fan, and which fans are most likely to give them a shot? Will Indiana get to 7 wins and make Ste...ven Godfrey chicken rich? Would BYU score 30 points against a red card college football defense? Where were you the last time Iowa State was ranked? How can we possibly argue that Butch Jones won't get fired? Who is even asking these terrible questions? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:26 download the free app today and make the most of your summer with all trails. welcome to the shutdown full cast i am spencer hall this is college football week eight uh the review that is since week eight just happened and we have to uh somehow process it because who there there's a bit there's a bit i don't think it was an earth shaking weekend but it did have its moments and i think it set us up for the final push i think it set us up for like the last six weeks of the season roughly in fairly brutal fashion
Starting point is 00:01:05 if I have to add it all up which we will attempt to do joining me as always Ryan Nanny live from Brooklyn, New York hello there, hello Ryan. The year of pestilence and doom is upon us shelter yourselves
Starting point is 00:01:20 go to your loved ones. It matters not. The fire will rain from the skies Penn State Notre Dame will play in the national championship. You will have to choose a side. All are wrong. It's time. You foretold it.
Starting point is 00:01:36 It's not that I foretold it. It's that the year 2017 demands it. And I know that that game won't be played until 2018, except somehow we will all wake up on January 1st, and 2017 will say, it's December 32nd. I'm not dead. You could never kill me.
Starting point is 00:01:56 But my Google calendars, shut up. That sounds a lot like James Franklin. Yeah. Well, yeah, this is, I mean, this is why 2017 is bad. You are, you, and by you, I mean, we are going to have to have serious discussions about Brian Kelly and James Franklin being good at their jobs. Yep. Jason, please help us out. I need something to, I need some hope. I need a ray of light. As a lifelong Notre Dame fan, I am here to tell you that this is all fine and good and the normal way of the universe. Notre Dame. I don't know what is there to get used to.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Notre Dame has always been good. They were good last year, year before. Always have good records. Jason has a Ron Palace tattoo. People don't know that. And he won't show it to, but he has it. I'll show it to. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Send me for one like, for every like, a Ron Palace tattoo shot. One like equals one... Poutap. Poutap. hashtag hashtag poutap picks one one but you have to include the word hashtag in the hashtag right right yeah it's like when you try to tell someone your email address is like um one two three underscore spell out underscore but one two three is also written out and like all that is the address like all the words i just said are included in the address like even the part where i said it's all spelled out you have to type that he's saying right now even all of it the part that he's saying right now even all of it the part that's I'm saying is somehow part of the email address.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Whatever you're thinking in your head, that's also part of the email address. And also the part I just said at gmail.com, that's in it as is this. Read line two. Read first bullet. Now read second bullet.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Yeah, it's fine. We're going to get a Penn State. We're going to get a Penn State Notre Dame National Championship game. And the best part about this is going to be in Atlanta. So, Georgia fans are going to feel great about it. come on down hey look it's the old vandy coach and the team that you beat go dogs oh man yeah well i mean
Starting point is 00:04:06 we got we got a lot of penn state folks we got a lot of notre dame folks that's fine well you're a nother dame fan and you live in atlanta so yeah my uh my community of fellow notre dame fans man we all over you know the thing notadame fans say we all over yeah well i mean you look You look everywhere, and I, the last house we moved from, the yard, we got written up for it by the HOA all the time, because the yard was not technically blades of grass. They said it was weeds, and I said, no, look it up. Clover is grass. Therefore, it stays. So that is proof of my Notre Dame fandom. I went, I fought for Clovers. And for years, Jason would not allow Monopoly to be played at night at his house. We don't do night games here. We don't.
Starting point is 00:05:00 We don't do night games here. 3.30 Monopoly or nothing. We do it on NBC. We only play Monopoly during Friends. The popular NBC show Friends. I am going to ask both of you for help discussing this week's Notre Dame game, though, because I didn't watch any of it. And I didn't do that because I am trying to throw shade at Notre Dame or I don't care about them. I didn't do it because part of the calculus I find during the college football week is that if somebody's leading 28-0 at halftime, I'm not watching the rest of that game unless it gets close.
Starting point is 00:05:40 And guess what? It didn't. Yeah. As a lifelong Notre Dame fan, I've found that the Irish do a lot better when I don't watch. Like last year, I watched a lot of Notre Dame. I watched the man whole NC State game It went poorly for my Irish
Starting point is 00:05:54 You know I watched that Fiesta Bowl again So Ohio State did not go well So this year Yeah I watched a lot of the Georgia game And we lost the Georgia game Otherwise I have not I don't I don't watch us at all
Starting point is 00:06:06 And we just keep winning And like this game You know you look up in the score of 70 And it's like well You know USC is in a bad spot here So that that really That's a you know
Starting point is 00:06:17 I'm gonna stick on this Michigan Penn State game for a while and you look up is 14-0. 21-0. Okay, I don't need to tune into that game at all. I don't know if I saw a single second of it, to be quite honest. By the way, the internet is responsible for Notre Dame's
Starting point is 00:06:32 success. They are. Okay. We are included in this, and this is why, okay? Last year, I don't know if you've heard, but Notre Dame did go 4 and 8. In going 4 and 8,
Starting point is 00:06:48 they lost like I know they only had eight losses they lost something like 22 single score games very close games all right and somehow only ended up with eight losses right
Starting point is 00:07:01 so one of the most spectacular of those losses just in terms of execution things you could make fun of not that you would make fun of Notre Dame
Starting point is 00:07:14 we did was this that um when did they play this game they played it in uh at nc state they played at october 28th it was an afternoon game is anything else remarkable about this game just circumstantially yeah there were like three inches of water on the field and more of it coming from the sky yeah yeah there was there was a lot of water a lot of water in that game is there um anything else notable about this game in terms of i don't know uh maybe strategy you know because I figure what you would want was you would want
Starting point is 00:07:51 in a game where it was obviously a monsoon you're just going to keep the ball like on the ground right we're going to run the ball no see see Notre Dame knew that's the ground is where the water is okay it all once it hits the ground it all pools together the ball's definitely going to get wet if you throw the ball well enough you can throw it between the rain drops and keep it dry so that's why they threw it a lot
Starting point is 00:08:16 So it's like the matrix It's exactly like the matrix Except you know With one true God Not Keanu Reeves Yes So
Starting point is 00:08:27 I would say If Keanu Reeves is Jesus Return to Earth That will kind of suck I don't see any disadvantages in this Yeah None Well honestly I'll just be like
Starting point is 00:08:41 Hey Jesus Why did you let them remake point break You could have stopped that it wasn't good but that was busy Jesus lets people make their own mistakes damn you know yeah yeah all right
Starting point is 00:08:55 Jesus is a cool dad yeah he's Mark Ricked he's like if you want to keep the game close until the fourth quarter that's fine that's fine you got grace you'll figure it out it'll be great the game that I was referencing
Starting point is 00:09:11 NC State they threw the ball 26 times in a monsoon in a hurricane in a cyclone only one of those terms is accurate but the imagery is still there 26 times and uh brian kelly in a list of 500 things that people enjoy citing about brian kelly both i think disingenuously and genuinely calling 26 passes in the middle of a hurricane while nc state called 14 and had absolutely no desire to do any to attempt to win this game, but they just waited for Notre Dame to lose it, and that's exactly what Notre Dame did.
Starting point is 00:09:51 I think he heard that, and I think he decided the passing was bad, because Notre Dame is now, if you watch them, you could call them run first. It's basically Alabama's defense, but a little more spread out. That's all it is. I'm honestly surprised that you brought this game up, the NC State game. Yeah. Just because, you know, obviously we've talked ad nauseum about the weather conditions, but I figured you, as someone who can't swim, would not want to talk about, like, a weather-drenched game.
Starting point is 00:10:29 You know, I'm really fond of this running gag that I can't swim. This is great. So I'm just going to go with it. Yes. Yes, it was terrifying that I can't swim, being the aquaphob that I am. That's why I hate, that's why I hate Aquaman and Sub-Sub. mariner because they remind me of my deepest fear water water that's even slightly deep um do you want us to get you swim lessons in the off season no no i think i can ride this out right with what like a floaties
Starting point is 00:11:01 or swimmies or something yeah what you what a life jacket life jacket's fine i don't know man you've been lifting though that life jacket's not gonna fit i've been lifting i need a life jacket nothing floats you're gonna have to wear like a kilt that's fine i can do that you know what i can't you know what i could wear i could wear like those booms that they put out with um that they put around oil slicks you could just put one around me oh yeah yeah yeah sure just continue that's fine the dolphins are my the dolphins are my friends they will sense my distressed and carry me home like i'm dick van dyke and that's why that's why you're not j cutler that's why i'm not jay cutler who also can't swim that's why there's that nude picture of him
Starting point is 00:11:44 looking at the ocean, saying, I'm like, I don't know. I don't think so. I want to fuck the ocean, but I can't swim. But it wants to fuck me in so many words. Oh, the irony of Jay Cutler's entire life. That's basically what Moby Dick is about. We just summed it up. That's a B-minus book report.
Starting point is 00:12:07 But yeah, I think we made fun with Notre Dame and they decided, oh, the forward pass? Yeah, that'll just get us made fun of. It's abandoned that completely. Also, you have a really good backfield. Like, you have an unquestionably excellent backfield that you really don't have to do much with in order to make them successful. Here, zone read. There you go.
Starting point is 00:12:27 A couple options. A couple QB power plays. A couple straight inside zone plays. Look, now we're going to run for like 3,000 yards this year. Oh, the outside boy has returned. Hey, yeah, I went outside. Cool. Um, there are reasons, but I don't really need it's not. It's cool. Yeah, you're good. Now, no one really cares. Now, I'm sure we'll talk about later this week, but it will be interesting to see if Notre Dame can keep that up, um, against NC State. Because NC State is, is pretty legit on the defensive side of the ball. Especially along the defensive line, which is the best place to start if you really, really want to mess up a run first attack. The averages, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:14 I don't know around 330 yards a game That seems like a lot Like I pointed out of the top whatever today But if you look at like Who Notre Dame's peers are When you go well who do they look like on the field They look like Navy They look like they run the ball like Navy does
Starting point is 00:13:32 Just not out of a triple option Which is kind of more impressive They can't even They're not even giving you three things to look at It's pretty much two And they're just pounding people with it Notre Dame's running the single option. You know, hey listen, you know, that's like you'd think like they're running,
Starting point is 00:13:50 they've got Adams, who's outstanding, by the way. You have to say that now because you can't, Notre Dame fans sort of glomming on and waking up, taking off the Yankee hat since that's done and they're putting on the Notre Dame hat. Just a thousand little troll ballins all saying things like, what about Josh Adams? What about him?
Starting point is 00:14:09 Anytime you mentioned a running back, because the only fans who are worse than what about me in college football than Ohio State fans are Notre Dame fans and unfortunately they're awake. You'll have to deal with them when you appreciate this otherwise very appreciatable football team. Now, I did watch the other half of the future national championship,
Starting point is 00:14:34 Penn State. I did watch them against Michigan and I do almost feel bad for Michigan because that one that game had the like okay
Starting point is 00:14:46 Penn State jumps out to a big lead Michigan comes crawling back and you're like okay we good we got a fight
Starting point is 00:14:53 on our hands and then the second half Penn State says yes yes we do except I have a lead pipe and you have a hands
Starting point is 00:15:00 lead pipe wins I don't know if you do that that was probably Michigan's first mistake here back to the drawing board i guess those with hands will be broken
Starting point is 00:15:15 those who flail slappers only um yeah this just i mean so i i looked this up and in jim harbaugh's tenure short though it is at michigan um they've only lost one other game by more than one score and that was the Ohio State game I believe his first season in Ann Arbor that was also a 29 point beating so like it's this Michigan team
Starting point is 00:15:50 is obviously beatable but it's hard to stomp on and Penn State did not I mean maybe they had a little trouble lacing up the boots but once they got there they got to stompin six point four yards a carry 10.8 yards a pass oh it was it was brutish it was an office based fax machine stomping there was there was there was some some things being worked out in
Starting point is 00:16:20 those stumps i i i i you know how you can um the coaches can agree to like um say okay the fourth quarter's only going to be 10 minutes or okay we're just going to call it i feel like james Franklin was probably asking the refs like, give us a fifth quarter. I want to get to 60. All right. The first, the overtime rules in college football are very simple. Franklin running out there trying to do a coin toss.
Starting point is 00:16:52 James Franklin's continuing tradition of being the most belligerent man in the room at all times. Not belligerent. How's this? Like, just prideful to the point for looking for a fight, looking for a slight. Unlike Nick Saban. he's not just writing things down to construct a motivational machine he's actively sort of ban to him right like he's all chest to me like it's just bro yeah i'm i'm pretty sure james franklin thinks kill bill is a documentary he's like yeah uh-huh you wake up from a coma you just
Starting point is 00:17:21 start killing all those who wronged you yeah this is this is the best planet earth i've ever seen that that and that and i thought it was kind of kind of a it was lenient I thought it was lenient like they didn't get over quite on Michigan like they could have they definitely tried they tried they missed some shots right like I think it was a fourth and five where their idea of a fourth and five play was to go for a slot fade which I love you Jill Moorhead's offensive coordinator for Penn State he's aggressive as hell he likes throwing the deep ball it's a beautiful coach deep ball it's not just your sort of random arm punt that sometimes people bring down.
Starting point is 00:18:06 No, it's an aggressive, well-coached, and lethal weapon. Also, if you want to know, like, other dick moves, just I wanted to name a couple of plays that they use heavily in this game to indicate what dick moves Penn State was deliberately putting on Michigan once they were broken. Wheel Routes with Saquan Barkley. Dick. Absolute dick move.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Because Seekone Barclay is bad to cover anyway. But you get him in there, like, against a linebacker on a wheel route? Oh, you're not being nice. Also, running an inverted veer look where Barkley's the decoy and Trace McSorley Keys. And then juke's two or three guys out of his shoes on the way to the end zone. Oh, no. I know I said it was lenient. It was not nice, though.
Starting point is 00:18:56 It could have been worse. Yeah. And John O'Corn got sacked seven times. So that was fun. that i can't decide by the way like how much to credit penn state for that because everybody's been sacking john that's true that's true that's why that's why florida couldn't win that michigan game didn't get to didn't get to line up against a ton of john o'corn not fair he asked me yes the elusive wilton spate that's what it did it wilton spate's wheels man wheeling
Starting point is 00:19:27 Wilton um so now this is also the part of the podcast where we are required to um tell you that um michigan and ruckers are tied in the big ten east right now for now for now for now fourth plays outright is on the line this saturday and uh you know what can't can't can out ruckers at this point you can't you can count out ruckers at this point you can't you can count out ruckers point you can go on hit you can go and just just check that i would like to point out also while we're discussing very important big ten dues uh there's another six and one team in the big ten michigan state that'd be michigan state sure yep um this game finished 179 and you say my what a robust
Starting point is 00:20:25 wholesome virtuous score for a workman like living breathing lunch pail of a team my favorite part about this game was Michigan State scored too many points they got to the end of game situation where they were up
Starting point is 00:20:43 by one driving get the first down LJ Scott he of the many parking tickets just kept it in drive and went ahead and scored to put Michigan State up by eight, which is not a safe lead. So you had the image of Mark D'Antonio on the sideline frustrated about his team scoring, which was absolute perfection and summed up so much about Mark Antonio.
Starting point is 00:21:10 I'm mad that you got to 17. Once that game, once that game got in the situation where it was 10, 9, I was like, for Indiana, that one point is 500 points if it were if they were up by 10 in indiana was trailing i'd be like i don't know we got a shot here one point though oh michigan state's gonna ride that to hell they could have played for 30 years and score would have been 10 nine i'm gonna pack this point in salt i'm gonna stretch it out over months i live outside in the winter drink my own piss and i live on that point just carve it up boil it doesn't bother me that's all i need is one point hold on i'm gonna smoke eat more cigarettes.
Starting point is 00:21:55 I ripped the filters out beforehand. I have no doubt Michigan State, if they were a person, would be a really ripped dude who smoked. That dude who lifts in jeans? Yeah, man, Michigan State. I mean, just take the mascot
Starting point is 00:22:12 and, yeah, put a tank top on him. I think you're good. Put a tank top on him. Give him like a really dark backstory, and there go. I love that gnaz song about Michigan State. All I need is one point.
Starting point is 00:22:30 The most dangerous team in America in single digit games they're back. They're back, y'all. Six and one. Speaking of teams, I want to attack a state here for a moment. A state that really
Starting point is 00:22:46 we read wrong. We misread this whole state because is it Florida? Oh no. Okay. No. We did, we did read that incorrectly, which isn't rare. No. But what we did misread was the entire state of Arizona, because what we forgot, that there were two wily men who were at their best when their jobs are in danger.
Starting point is 00:23:10 That'd be Todd Graham, and that'd be Rich Rodriguez. Two men who are good at being employed. So good, dude, they're so good at being employed. No matter what. Getting jobs. Getting jobs? Stay employed. Because you forget that.
Starting point is 00:23:25 You get these fancy people who assume that, you know, a meal's a given and a paycheck is a grant. No, no, no, sir. Where Todd Graham and Rich Rodriguez are from? Those two men have eaten beanie weenies for months on end. Those two men have suffered. Maybe as a result of their own actions sometimes, but still, they understand it.
Starting point is 00:23:45 They know how to stretch a dollar. They know. And that's why they're in Arizona, a place where water isn't even scarce, man. Talent, even less so. Somehow, somehow, these two men got out in their teams forecast to be either in program collapse or near program collapse
Starting point is 00:24:05 by very smart people, including us. Arizona State's four and three, y'all, and they beat up on Utah, 30 to 10. And Arizona, Arizona is even more remarkable because just sitting on their bench, They had one of the most electric talents in the nation. How did this happen, man? They just decided, you know what we're going to do?
Starting point is 00:24:31 We're going to try something different here in week five. We're going to put Tecmobo in at quarterback. I know we haven't been playing them all that much. Techmovo has just been sitting over there being all digitized and whatnot, but let's just try it. See what happens. Turns out it's actually a pretty good idea to play TechMobo at quarterback. that's for Arizona State I don't know they just decided one day we just don't we just don't
Starting point is 00:24:54 give up points anymore we've given up enough points yeah no they they kind of did that like drunkard miracle thing where they just wake up one day and they're like you know I'm tired of drinking weird you're like oh that won't last 35 years yeah 35 years later you're like I don't know walter just gave it up now we have the weird problem of are we going to have enough room on the coaching carousel, because usually you need a few jobs to come open so that you can sort of shuffle everybody around and get that good movement. But right now, I mean, Tennessee, Arkansas, Oregon State is obviously open, maybe UCLA. Even that, I don't, I don't even know if UCLA is paying attention anymore. The Oregon game was a home game for them, homecoming. And I
Starting point is 00:25:47 would estimate roughly 4,000 people were there. It was very lightly attended. Are you saying Dan Mullen is not going to have any places to interview? Damn. He's doomed. He's stuck forever. Man. I just want to go home. You can't, Dan. You can never go home. You can never go home. But he just keeps leaping into the same body over and over and over and over. Dang it, I'm at the Chick-fil-A at this time. He just keeps waking up in the home of like a big lummixie six-foot-four quarterback who can run and kind of pass. And he's like, well, I guess you've got to come to Starkville and throw for 3,000 yards and run for 1,000. Yeah, we should divert briefly to note that Kentucky, who was looking pretty good to start the year, 5 and 1, yeah, these were a lot of close wins.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Yeah, they fucked up to the Florida game something stupid. But still, looking like a reasonably sharp team considering they had had a bunch of players injured, man, y'all just got the boot taken to your face, 45-7. And when you look at the rest of the Kentucky schedule, you look down and you're like, all right, they got to play Tennessee in what may be Butch Jones saves his job for at least a week. And then they got to play Ole Miss. Then they got to go to Vanderbilt. And then they got to go to Georgia. And then they got to host Louisville. A Louisville team who you would think will not be overlooking them based on last year's loss.
Starting point is 00:27:27 And you can kind of see, like, I'm not saying it's going to happen, but you can kind of see how five and one turns to five and seven real fucking quick. And that shit sucks. Yeah, well, Kentucky can see that too. You know they do. Like, they're the fan base. They're the fan base who I really most believe when they go, oh, you know, this thing's just going to be in five and seven. I can feel it in my bones. I never go.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Yeah, the Kentucky football fan base is the one you don't want to sit next to you on a plane. Because they're like, yeah, you know, most of the mechanical failures on airplanes, they can't diagnose the limited time between one plane landing and the other one taking off. So it's really a crap shoot every time. Anyway, I'm single. No kids. How about you? Yep, Kentucky football. The cancer's in my bones, but that's cool.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Hey, you think about moving into the neighborhood? Yeah, we got pretty good schools. And also, I'll set your house on fire. So you might like it here. You'd be surprised what the legal limit of toxic chemicals in public water is. It's high. It's surprisingly high. It's so high.
Starting point is 00:28:41 You can like almost lose to Southern Miss. and Eastern Kentucky and Eastern Michigan and Eastern Tech and all sorts of Easterns and still be 5 and 1. Being on a football team like that's got to be a trip because they have to go into a game, right? Kentucky has to go into a game against, I don't know. Like LSU, right?
Starting point is 00:29:04 Because they play LSU in November. It's the next to last game. They got to walk into that stadium. They got to forget that they're the team that, like, you know, struggle against UMass right because that's why athletes are different man because if that have been me against UMass and I'm rolling out against LSU and they're on the other side of the field looking real large right very burly and unruly and coming in my direction you know what I'm going to remember because
Starting point is 00:29:34 I'm not a competitor and athlete I'll be like I'm that same dude who only beat UMass by four well then then you might be good enough to play Tennessee football because I think that's what they were thinking against Alabama. Well, that's correct, though. I mean, that's completely correct. That's the way it should have been. I enjoyed the Alabama Tennessee game for this. I enjoy it for the setup because everybody knew,
Starting point is 00:30:05 including Tennessee fans, that they were going to lose this game. It was a foregone conclusion. There were only little moments of light tweak in the game. To remind Tennessee, not only that Alabama was much better, but that they were in hell. Because everybody, when you play Alabama, it's, oh, they're much deeper and better than we are right now. And probably will be like if Nick Saban drums dead tonight, right, they will be better than everybody else for two or three years based strictly on the depth chart alone, right? It'll take a long time for somebody to mediocre that program up.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Now, that said, I think Tennessee went in not only knowing that, but knowing that they'd have lost 11 games. that there would be some sort of special hell for them as a result of their own mediocrity. That's a different thing, right? Not that, oh, those people are way better, but we're going to be throwing some suck into this, too. Like our own unique brand is suck. A particular one that we've carried for, I don't know, offensively 12 quarters, and that they almost scored. Oh, God, yeah, basically scored. And then, I mean, it's almost like it's like some sort of a self-aware irony machine or
Starting point is 00:31:15 something when they get to the red zone like you just think like this this is going to be the one that they're finally going to punch this thing in right this is this is impossible this is statistically improbable like Colorado state scored 20 points or whatever on alibi like how is how can they be this bad at this what it is is it's one of those mobile games that once you get to the red zone it's like hey if you pay 499 just get a touchdown right here just click here connect it to your apple pay look at that you sure you don't want it okay you can maybe get a touch it on your own no all right try again again look just bump the price down 399 no okay but he's that and he says no we're going to continue to compete we're going to go out and we're going to grind until we level up enough to get
Starting point is 00:32:02 a touchdown on our own for free no matter how many one one experience point ogres we have to slay in the fields below the mountain um we're going to do that for hours and hours and hours until we were able to land one hit on the dragon. I would love to watch But Shones play Zelda. You know, the name of the game is smashing vases. That's really where we think the value is in this program. We burst into another man's home and we smash his vase. We take what's inside.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Now I hear what you're saying, that there's a main quest. There's some sort of sword or villain that I have to go find. Not to me. It's just about vase smashing. oh man you know what you can do you can gather hearts that dude loves to collect hearts that's all he does on national signing day is just stock up on hearts he would fucking love that game we're the champions of extra life that's what we are
Starting point is 00:33:00 we'll just be here a long time taking a lot of damage because we have a lot of hearts you just can't that really is the the Tennessee predicament right now isn't it this dude is just still here taking damage well yeah he tried to tell you he's got a lot of hearts uh you know first of all i object that uh this ocarina does not play rocky top find that insulting number one tried several times i i'm looking at the rest of tennessee schedule and man what now well now we get to the fun part because if you look at the east right now just the conference standings there are three teams at the bottom that are all O and four, Tennessee, Vandy, and Mizzou.
Starting point is 00:33:45 And the nice thing is, it's like, hey, play date, y'all get to, y'all get together. Somebody's going to get to get off that, at least two of you will get to get off that ofer streak. Isn't that nice? We think. We can't prove it. Let's not, let's not count our chickens. Games do get canceled. That's a fair point.
Starting point is 00:34:07 This is, by the way, this is the world's worst national novel writing. month prompt ever is looking at start October 28th Butch Jones looks at the
Starting point is 00:34:21 Kentucky game plan Oh man As I lay dying The Butch Jones story So yeah I'm looking at it As I lay trying I think John Curry
Starting point is 00:34:39 John Curry has through some sources said that butch jones's job could be uh safe relatively safe if you know they won out after the alabama game uh i see at least two instances here of them possibly getting hammered well but hold on let's let's us let me walk you through this let's assume all right that the universe as it currently exists um only functions around making tennessee fans miserable as evidence i give you again, the national championship game that's going to happen, where James Franklin, former Vanderbilt coach who beat Tennessee, will be in the national championship, and
Starting point is 00:35:22 Brian Kelly, the better version of Butch Jones, will be in the national championship. So let's assume that the universe, as we know, it only exists to maximize Valpane. I think Tennessee absolutely wins these last five games, because nothing will be worse at this point then if they don't fire Butch, like, well, if they do run the table, if they beat Kentucky and Southern Miss and Missou and LSU, which at that point may be a great win, maybe a meaningless win, and Vanderbilt, will you, will they look back and say, what a season it was? What a wonderful season where we lost to Georgia 410 and had 18 tries at the goal line to beat South Carolina and Alabama set betting history against us.
Starting point is 00:36:09 What a wonderful year. Print the t-shirts. They might. Beat Vandy bad enough. Beat those bastards at Vandy bad enough. Yeah, man. I mean, it's kind of like last year, right? Like, we were in sort of a similar situation.
Starting point is 00:36:27 You know, they just caught fire in November and started lighting folks up. They just said, you know, what, fuck it. Josh Dobbs, you're the O.C. now, you know? So, like, you do that again. You start scoring six. points every week against these bad teams. Yeah, but at this point, after the Bama game, they were 5 and 2.
Starting point is 00:36:46 They're not 5 and 2 right now. They're within a couple games of that. I mean, how flexible is your math? Tennessee flexible. That's how flexible. Oh, then come all. Yeah. You can't measure
Starting point is 00:37:01 heart. Hey, listen, all right? You got a round to the nearest 5. And 3, well, that's closer to 5 than 0, ain't it? It's five-win Tennessee program right here. See? I think we ought to be ranked, to be quite honest, with that record. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:37:18 They're definitely ranked with this record, huh? Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. What else happened this week? What, man. Iowa State got ranked. Hold on, Iowa State got ranked.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Can we talk about that for a damn minute? Iowa State is ranked, God damn it. Iowa State has not been ranked since 2005. And if you just pick through your brain and think about all the teams that have had like meteoric rises and plunge and gone back down to, I mean, Washington alone, think about what they have done since 2005. And in the entirety of that stretch, Iowa State has not been ranked. Oh, hey. This was our goal for Iowa State this year. This was back in July or whatever we should.
Starting point is 00:38:10 I don't see it. We want you to be ranked for one week. I don't care if it's bullshit. I don't care if you show up a 25 and then leave. Which you're playing TCU. That's probably what's happening. It probably happens. But it's not bullshit.
Starting point is 00:38:21 It's, I mean. I mean, they've 20. The ranking number 25 is always bullshit, but they have earned that bullshit. They beat Oklahoma. And they have only lost two games. And they were competitive, you know, in both of them that I can recall. Do you know who's, yeah. Do you know who's next highest in others receiving votes?
Starting point is 00:38:43 Michigan. Texas A&M. Another team that has been pretty, you know, not enraging, I guess. Yeah. That's another team we can say has earned its bullshit ranking of 26. I will tell you, though, if I had told you that they were going to be five and two on October 21st and with Baylor, still on the schedule, the probability of an Iowa State win, takes them to a bowl game, done.
Starting point is 00:39:14 I would have taken that if I was an Iowa State fan, right? Absolutely. Six wins, bowl game, shocking upset of Oklahoma. I would have taken that showcase and run, Bob. That's what I would have done, but no further deliberation. This is also probably a good time where we should check in on, I know we talked by the Michigan State game already, but we should check in on. the chicken bet right absolutely i could not agree more so so to review indiana currently three and four
Starting point is 00:39:47 what and and you have the under on this bet correct yes and what is the number that indiana has to reach win wise for you to owe our cod our colleague stephen godfrey chicken indiana has to go seven and five in the regular season if he's been saying six and six That's fake news. He keeps trying to say that, and it's not going to work. My attorney, Ryan Nanny, was there when the contract was signed. Yeah, I can confirm. There was a game canceled due to weather, but it was rescheduled,
Starting point is 00:40:21 and we agreed that the rescheduled game would count the same as the canceled game was. So 7 and 5 is still the mark Godfrey must hit in order to cash this wager. We're one in one. Here's the rubber match, and I'm feeling great. so I'm not feeling great for Indiana right now because the remaining games they have to win four out of these five at Maryland home against Wisconsin at Illinois home against Rutgers at Purdue I feel like Wisconsin we're probably going to throw out that that's the least likely and then they have to sweep these other four teams and it's possible none of those teams has been so strong that you say, oh, no way Indiana beats them. But on the other hand, only one of those teams has been so garbage that you say, yes, Indiana definitely beats them.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Curiously enough, that team is Illinois. It is not Rutgers. Illinois is straight garbage this year. Yeah, that's so we're hitting four. I'll grant that. In Wisconsin, that, of course, that's a ranked Big Ten opponent. So we are looking at a situation where Indiana is like, leading with like 45 seconds to go.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Sure. Maybe even leading by two scores somehow. Yeah. And you think like, okay, Wisconsin scoring and scoring twice in under like 13 minutes impossible. And somehow it happens. Yeah, no, I feel like I feel like this is one of those games where you watch Indiana get out to a 21 point lead, but not a 28 point lead. And you just know, you go, it's when they get two drives off
Starting point is 00:42:02 and you go, man, nothing can stop them. And then that third drive, it's field goal attempt, 17 points. And you go, no, that's it. It's all they get. Basically, Indiana football is every silver medalist in the 4x100, where you're like, oh, man, through two guys, they got a big lead. They're looking great. Oh, I got real done.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Look at that. Is that what it is? Is that Indiana is always the one on the inside track so you're deceived into thinking they're farther along than they are? Yeah. Lane one, Indiana. out. Oh, that's what it is. Man, but the outside track is actually like five meters shorter. Yes, exactly. They're also basically like, they also are the proverbial person at the movie
Starting point is 00:42:46 theater who eats all their snacks in the first 10 minutes, right? Like, oh, it just sits down and, ah, yeah, what you got? Just sits down and eats like fantastic Mr. Fox and then looks up an hour I'm so hungry. Yeah, that's a good, that's always a sign that, like, a team only has so much talent and so many ideas when they race out to, like, oh, man, our scripted plays work really well. Now let's get into that, like, play calling and flow of the game and see what our talent can do. And you're like, they did three points. Are you saying Mike, before he doesn't think on his feet all that well?
Starting point is 00:43:24 That is what I'm saying. That's because that, that is the first time I've ever heard that. Now, let me ask you this, though. you rather have right now to get to seven wins? Indiana or Florida State? Or Florida? Fuck it. Florida can go in there too. They didn't play this week. So maybe, you know, let's not worry about that. But if you had to choose between Indiana and FSU to get to seven wins, Indiana's already one game ahead because Florida State had a game canceled due to weather. So who you got? I might take Indiana. Florida State, okay, you got to go.
Starting point is 00:44:02 That schedule's not doing them any favors in this. Yeah, because we looked this up earlier. Okay, you're facing the Boston College scoring juggernaut. The Steve Adazio rack-em-up offense that's just going to dump 40 points on you, brother. Here it comes. Evidently. Boston College's offense is the Arizona State defense of offense. We're just like, it's good now?
Starting point is 00:44:25 Fine, it's good now. You got to play Clemson. I believe that's at Clemson. It is, yes. You got to go to Florida, and, like, yes, 36% of this podcast content is about how terrible Florida is, but you're kind of terrible, too, so you could lose that game. And there's another tricky one. You got to play Syracuse.
Starting point is 00:44:45 You got to play Syracuse. Don't play Syracuse. Why would you do that? So, yuck. And Richard read this this morning. You might end up in a situation where, the loser of Florida, Florida State might have to go and reschedule that hurricane-canceled game
Starting point is 00:45:04 for conference title weekend because Lord knows you ain't going to have plans that weekend just to hit bowl eligibility. So if you're 5 and 6 in your Florida State and you don't want to lose your 38-year bowl streak or whatever, hey, ULM, you up. So fucking sad, but that could happen. And meanwhile, meanwhile, okay, Miami is not out of the playoff race yet.
Starting point is 00:45:26 UCF and USF are Undefeated Can't have a New Year 6 play end game FAU is out here scoring 69 points on people In Congress USA FIU might go back to bowl season The entire state is doing great
Starting point is 00:45:41 Except for y'all's garbage program And it's our travel That's wild I would also Before we Before we do I believe a couple of reads Because we need to do those I would like to point out
Starting point is 00:45:54 A team that has given up that'd be North Carolina Oh man yeah There are So there are very few teams at this point in the year That are statistically out of it In terms of bowl eligibility It's hard
Starting point is 00:46:09 You just haven't played enough games Most teams to even get there There are only two Power 5 schools That are in that position right now One is Baylor And the other one is UNC Sure I don't know how this
Starting point is 00:46:25 I mean what Two years ago, they were playing in the ACC championship and nearly beating Clemson in the process? What the fuck? The number one quarterback sitting on the bench. I was going to say, I would point out that as recently as last year, they sent a first-round quarterback. Who's playing pretty well, I gather, right? Like, aren't the bears doing better than expect? Anyway.
Starting point is 00:46:51 We're not going to talk about the bears. Come on. You lost a good player. But lots of teams lose good players. I mean, we saw UNC falling. I think we picked him for like four and eight. We didn't pick this shit, though. Yeah, they got.
Starting point is 00:47:04 You didn't pick 59.7. Not quite. I mean, you did lose Gene Chisick also. And despite his, despite questions about exactly how much time in his week, he devotes to leg day, the man's upper body is still quite satisfactory. And you need that, you know, especially. that close to uh in a coastal state you need that kind of ocean friendly upper body and you just lack it right now at unc yeah they got they got tuned up but by virginia tech who looks like i mean
Starting point is 00:47:40 the clompson game wasn't great for them a few weeks ago but since then shit they held boston college to 10 and that wasn't a thing we thought would be meaningful and now it is um and there's there's a very good chance that we will see a rematch of the Clemson Virginia Tech game in the ACC Championship game. I know. I'm disrespecting Miami. I've watched your games, okay? You're trying as hard as you can to lose them.
Starting point is 00:48:08 You're not fooling me. I don't know. I have a different take on Miami that they're just, they're chill. I think that they just, I think that they're like, oh, no, no, no, it's cool. It's cool. It'll work out. Just keep it just, yeah, here, just keep it even. Everything, no, what Miami football is this year is somebody trying to make a YouTube, like, stunt video.
Starting point is 00:48:33 And so far it's going great. Learn to Ollie in two minutes. Jumped over a car. Like, set yourself on fire and successfully had somebody put you out. Eventually one of these stunts is going to go very bad. I'm predicting the game against Notre Dame is probably where that happens. Bro, they got to play pit. They got to play at pit.
Starting point is 00:48:56 I've had that on my board, Miami losing the pit, and every week I look at it and think, that looks really stupid, I should change it. And then I just think, no, I'm not going to. I mean, listen, I don't want to suggest that Miami's not good. Because Miami is a good football team. They're just like, they're pretty reckless. Sure.
Starting point is 00:49:17 I mean, well, as is on brand and as we prefer for the hurricanes. Yeah. Should we do some raids? yeah let's do some reads all right um i'm going to get a few of these out of the way to start uh first from matt don't be garbage to each other matt if we really believed in that we probably wouldn't do this podcast and put it out for the public the nicest thing we could do would be to give this up and to tell people hey go listen to classical music or a podcast that's recorded well
Starting point is 00:49:49 or the problems that your friends and family are having don't listen to one squeaky voice idiot and to men who can't successfully record, talk about nothing for anywhere between 53 and 82 minutes. Don't do that. So we're already being garbage to you. I'm sorry. It's just start. And then from Taylor, Taylor wants us to talk about the videos of John Boys a little bit.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Or I should say the videos by John Boys because the videos of suggest that I've been taping him. And I'm not comfortable admitting that. I'll give you a little preview content of the next video he's working on. It's about kickoffs. And he devised, and I don't think this is in the video, so it's hopefully not a spoiler. He devised what I think is the best kickoff solution possible. People are always like, well, move it up or just like get rid of it all together. No.
Starting point is 00:50:46 What John suggested is that on a kickoff, you put the ball on a tee at the kicking team's goal line. and everybody stays off the field except for the kicker. And the kicker gets to kick the ball off the tee as hard as he fucking can. And wherever the ball lands, not comes to rest or where, I will say, where it goes out of bounds, that's where the other team gets the ball to start their drive. So if he can drop it in and just drop it right on the two, guess what, buddy, 98 yards to go. I think this would be the most enjoyable, like, little mini-game that you could have in the middle of a football game. I only have one wrinkle to add to that, by the way.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Sure. I was trying to think of how fast somebody could run. Mm-hmm. And it's this. I think if you have one defender on the play, one, who can either attempt to down the ball, or he can start at the 15 and try to block it. where does he start if he has to down the ball well i mean that's your choice right it's just like there's a neutral zone at the 15 or right the 10 i'd have to figure how fast somebody could actually run that and what a kicker's run up is by seconds so that you make it as close a match
Starting point is 00:52:06 between somebody fast and somebody um in a kicker winding up um but you have that choice right you could make either the super conservative one which is you send somebody back and you allow them to down the ball wherever the ball is caught and or touched right or you have this one guy who can go for a one-man kick block berserker yeah yeah yeah like an absolute berserker right just turn it into like some sort of bizarre oh punt return slash penalty kick and that's our 18th blown ACL of the year on a kickoff I mean, it is better than the XFL. Jason, you've got one.
Starting point is 00:52:53 So, Tom, who generously donated to Hurricane Disaster Relief as part of this charity to do, I assume this donation was placed more than a month ago, right? That would fit the timeline here. Yeah, that sounds right. so tom's message for us to read was that he would like to thank us for not talking about notre dame at the time would have been somewhere between uh zero and zero with um some amount of expectations off of a bad year uh one and oh or one in one which in that range sure you probably don't want us talking about notre dame now the tables have turned quite a bit
Starting point is 00:53:39 We talked about Notre Dame all the fucking time with reason, because we love Notre Dame. Because you're a lifelong Notre Dame fan. As a lifelong Notre Dame fan, I've finally, you'll have finally seen the light of touchdown Jesus shining down upon you. So now I think, you know, if we were to check back in with Tom, he would thank us for constantly talking about Notre Dame. So Tom, you're welcome. Do you think a live shutdown forecast at South Bend would be the least? attended thing possible it would actually you know what it would feel a lot like Richard Spencer at the University of Florida like people would show up but it would
Starting point is 00:54:17 mostly be to yell at us and scream fuck you Spencer yeah well yeah it'll literally be the same fuck you Spencer yeah that'd be fine so is that where we could go we where we would have the most agitators because like we I mean we could go a lots of places where nobody would have heard of us I mean like you know Yukon what what where how would they have ever heard of well well the dog because of the dog thing. Oh, shit, yeah, okay, bad example. UMass, fine.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Yeah, Mass. Yeah. Yeah, Notre Dame might be the, or maybe Ohio State or I don't know. No, I think Ohio State would be fine because, you know, we talk enough shit about others, whereas Notre Dame, I don't think Notre Dame revels in that. I don't think Notre Dame fans would listen to this and be like, oh, well, yes, they talked a lot of crap about the Irish, but, because Notre Dame fans say crap. but at least other teams got their come-up
Starting point is 00:55:08 and be like, how dare you? I don't know, but Notre Dame has like 35 rivals, you know? If you're like a 60-year-old Notre Dame fan and you're listening to this podcast, first of all, you're the weirdest person alive, but you also consider every team in football to be your rival. USC, Navy, Army, Boston College, Georgia Tech, Michigan, Michigan State, you know, on and on and on and on.
Starting point is 00:55:31 See, they are actually the legend of Zelda of college football. because you got to go all over the fucking country collecting all these weird items that you know your name is mega man is what it is you got to beat shalelele man you got to you got to you got to beat um um um boat man that's navy navy your boat man that's what that's the team nickname actually the navy boatman they say midshipman they don't say that around them they'll be Do you think there's ever been an Admiral Boatman in the Navy? I hope there has been. Let's Google that right now.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Admiral Boatman or Captain Boatman, U.S.N. This reminds me if you own Usedairboats.com, can you give it to me, please? It's already purchased, but nobody's using it. I could buy Used Airboat Singular.com. I might do that if I have to, but I really like to get used airboats. I'm going to do a couple of... Hey, I found an Admiral Boatman. What's his deal?
Starting point is 00:56:33 Oh, shit. I think it's fiction. Shit. It's from a forum called the liberal democrats.com or something. I don't know what they're writing about. We're going to do a couple shoutouts here before we get to Spencer's Reed, which is very special. Shoutouts to generous listeners and donors. Shelly Kay, Elliot Beset, Connor Farley, and Tim Hodgson.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Thank you to all of you. for donating now spencer please do this terrible thing that's going to happen so an anonymous uh donor has requested you you may recognize it it comes from a television show that was you know i think canceled before it's time before it really had time to to come into its own well i think it was i think it ran it was prestige television it was like british television like yep four episodes that's all we needed. Yep. Yep. And initially when I saw this, I thought, well, this is actually the limit. I don't think. I don't think I can say any of these things even for charity. I don't think that I don't think I can go there. I think somebody else will have to do it. But then I had an idea. Did you know that on every iPhone on the existing IOS, there is a, there is garage band. And little did you know that garage band. on your phone, just has beats. So I thought the only way to do this
Starting point is 00:58:01 would be to do it somewhere between, I don't know, losing my edge and or the pet shop boys. So I'm just going to start the beat and we're just going to go with it, okay? So here we go. You guys tell me which one you like is a bass beat here? Just like a... Okay, give us a few choices.
Starting point is 00:58:19 That's a little too high-hattie. Hey. I like that one better, yeah. This? That's a Drake beat, yeah. Whoa. That's just running water. No, I think it was number two or number three that I would pick.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Yeah, number two. That? Okay, good. I'm going to start with that. We'll just freestyle. We'll just add things, okay? Sure. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:58:50 I'm Bill Simmons, and here's what I believe. I believe the defending NBA champs should wear championship belts to every game. I believe that Kanye is a genius. It's just that he knows it, and that's the problem. I believe we should ban the DH, long putters, extra points, the NIT. and pick-off throws. You really want to know what I believe. I believe in the four-point line.
Starting point is 00:59:40 I believe soup is the perfect food. I do. I believe in a Bella, Czech Popovich, presidential ticket. I believe that every DiCaprio movie would be just a little better as a Matt Damon movie.
Starting point is 01:00:11 I believe the 2004 ALCS was an act of God. I believe that tug of war should be an Olympic sport. I really
Starting point is 01:00:31 believe that one. I'm going to say it twice for effect. I believe that tug of war should be an Olympic sport. That's nice.
Starting point is 01:00:47 And finally, I believe that billionaires should pay for their own fucking football stadium. Record scratch. Damn, dropping truth. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:01:05 That's a fade out. That's just when you hit the volume. Yeah, yeah. I hope Anonymous, I hope you fucking enjoyed that. Belichick Popovich. Two men with very similar politics, right?
Starting point is 01:01:20 Yeah, they'd get along just fine. What diversity. What diversity on a ticket, too. It's very inclusive. There's men and there's men. There's a white guy and a white guy. And they don't like talking to media. Perfect. Perfect. That's excellent. Uh, um, is there anything we left untouched from? I mean, there is. There's always stuff that we don't talk about. Uh, they put Kansas on regular Fox and they got, they got 21 yards. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:01:57 This was, and those 21 were a battle, man. Yeah, it was a thing of drama. And at one point, this was the most exciting thing going on, because Pincey was Whoopin, Michigan, Notre Dame was blowing out USC, as we do every year. Fuck them. And the race to see whether Kansas could crack a positive integer. I don't know if I used the word integer, right?
Starting point is 01:02:21 It was some drama to it. people were watching like the the plan worked the plan worked people were flipping from abc to fox just to gawk at kansas it worked yeah this uh i feel like it was not that long ago that we were saying oh kansas is showing signs of improvement kansas is maybe you know starting to turn a corner this year has proven that that is demonstrably false just no who who said that no i feel I feel like last year, last year, I'm being serious here. I feel like last year, Kansas played some games towards the end of, I mean, listen, they beat Texas. That's the thing we should mention.
Starting point is 01:03:04 But they also like, they started playing some close. This game was 2423 last year. Yeah, you know what? You can find me saying that last year probably. I'm going to deny it. Yeah, you should. Yeah, that wasn't me. That wasn't me.
Starting point is 01:03:19 I mean, Kate U has played TCU. at least a few times in the past few years. They did not this time. It did not come to pass. Also, LSU and Auburn still control their destiny in the SEC West. What? How did we get here? How does this keep happening?
Starting point is 01:03:42 That's a really generous way of saying, ain't lost to Bama yet. I mean, yeah, it is, but after they lost to Troy, I assumed that LSU would drop one of the three games they had ahead of them, and they didn't. And they're probably going to finish. There is, eight wins seems absolutely doable. Nine seems attainable as well. Not that long ago, we were on this very show talking about Ed Orderon's buyout, and that's not a thing right now.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Only, only rhetorically, we believe in Cocho. We were just reviewing his contract just to make sure, you know, in case the Chargers came calling. Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. That's right, because Ed Or Durand coached the Chargers from 2020 to 2021. And you want a guy familiar with the program, with the franchise to come back. Yeah, I mean, you know, he just wins in Los Angeles, so. That's a really good point. yeah i would also point this out about lSU they um yeah both of these programs will probably
Starting point is 01:04:55 lose to bama i think in very different manners i think with auburn i can see a kind of inactivity you know sort of sluggish languor to that game you know something like a something like the 2719 game where they get like a cheap score late looks a lot like the texas a and m u you know texas a and m game right for alabama uh the lsu man i don't know that's they're like a 10-9 game or that's like a 40 to 3 game for Alabama. I think last year's Bama LSU was the like definitive modern Bama LSU game, right? 10-0. We're going to get that again.
Starting point is 01:05:34 LSU is going to play its ass off and lose like 12 to 5. Yeah, like I just, every time you line up the quarterback, I'm like, well, quarterback's going to have to move a little bit. let's see who we got danny etling okay 10 zero that's 10 zero that's where we're starting it's where we're starting because i just see who who's out who's out on the highway alone in the middle of the night trying to dodge those headlights danny etling all right i'm gonna pray for you son i'm gonna pray for you not gonna hope but but i'm gonna do some prayer um and we should also point out somehow it got worse for BYU.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Lost 33. Lost 33 to 17 to a very bad ECU team. I, so you got BYU and Georgia Southern in almost literally the same situation. They were both one in five or so.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Georgia Southern is even worse. Playing one in five or so teams and getting their asses kicked. Georgia Southern responds by firing its coach. Tyson Summers is gone. This is maybe the first time we've ever mentioned him on this program, probably not a good sign. BYU, meanwhile, you know, okay, Kalani Sataki had a good debut year, so you're probably not
Starting point is 01:06:51 firing him anyway. But it's like not even on the table. Like, you literally can't. You have to hire, you know, a member of the church. And, well, you already did. So he's going to stay. Yeah, let me give you, by the way, the East Carolina profile, just to show you exactly what happened. Remember, East Carolina has already fired its defensive coordinator. Always a great sign when your defensive
Starting point is 01:07:21 coordinator has been canned less than eight weeks into the season. That happened like week two. That shit was early. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because East Carolina, by the way, I want you to just name a bad defense. Name a defense, you go, oh man, like Louisville.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Man, Louisville's just a stank defense. Yeah, they're They're 87th in terms of total scoring. They're much better than this team. How much better? Oh, oh, Reader. It gets so much worse. Man, Missouri, that's just a sieve and cleats out there, right?
Starting point is 01:07:52 Yeah, yeah. They're 122nd in the nation in terms of total, like, scoring points per game. And they're significantly better because you can't actually be worse than East Carolina. They are, in terms of allowing points, the worst scoring defense in the nation. and have, in their best effort prior to this game, allowed somebody to score a stingy 34 points. Doing it twice, once it gets Temple, once it gets James Madison, the notoriously explosive Temple offense.
Starting point is 01:08:31 And BYU lined up and put up 17 against a... Like, against a fruit stand in an action movie, Chase. That's what the East Carolina defense is, and BYU couldn't even drive through it. Even after this game, ECU is giving up seven and a half yards per play, which means that third down should not exist if you play them. They have given up more rushing yards and more passing yards in eight games than Alabama has total yards in eight games. And it's not even, it's like, Alabama's got them by at least 200 yards in both.
Starting point is 01:09:17 It's, and, and yet, against BYU, a respectable 5.85 yards per play allowed. And 17 points scored. It's, I don't, I mean, I know Matt Brown already wrote about this, I think, earlier this week, or last week, rather. BYU is just I was going to start adding things like Can we give them a handicap Because my idea for unsportsman-like penalty calls Isn't that the player is
Starting point is 01:09:51 Is ejected It's much like hockey And that you have to play a man down for X number of minutes Right Or a quarter And then he can come back So that you can't manipulate the drive Right like
Starting point is 01:10:05 Well if it's two minutes we'll just stall for time to get them back on, right? Because people will do shitty things like that. No, you just make it like a quarter, right? And you should have to play a man down, or even just for the drive, right? If BYU were playing a defense that only had 10 men on the field, do you think they could average, do you think they could score 30 points?
Starting point is 01:10:29 Whose defense is the starting point? I'm going to give you a recognizable quantity. let's just start with the Georgia defense if they're playing with 10 men. No, bro, let's take it down. Okay, so we need to move with 10 men on the field. No. All right, 10 men.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Okay, so I'm going to move you down a little bit. What if I rolled the Iowa State defense, respectable unit? And you're asking, can BYU get to 30 in the game if they're playing Iowa State with 10? red card iowa state can b yu yeah joel landing i'm leaving joel landing on the field because he's playing like eight positions that wouldn't be fair um no no okay i'm gonna boot you down a little bit further i think
Starting point is 01:11:21 yes at this point but let's keep you think yes okay i'm going to boot you down further to a unit that um we've all seen struggle this year that would be the louisville offense which has had some very stanky moments indeed I got 10 men on the field for the entirety of the game, and I have the BYU offense with 11. Can we get to 30? I mean, I mean, shit, man.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Louisville can probably put 11 up there. I think we've seen Louis will give up 40-something to Boston College. The explosive and productive Boston College, nevertheless. Hell down Florida State, though. Well, sure. got Jimbo mad enough to yell at a fan that's that's why I want to end this episode by the way is talking about that that a fan in the stands
Starting point is 01:12:16 yelled out at Jimbo Fisher hire new coaches and what did Jimbo Fisher say in response he said bring your bring your ass down here and fight me and say it to my face or whatever which is a weird thing to say because it's not like the fan is yelling that from the stands because he's a coward this he knows that he's not allowed to just hop the fence and tell you to fire you're like
Starting point is 01:12:41 no it's like a vampire once you're invited yeah he can do it that's like i mean jimbo is standing in the ring and he was saying to the titan tron anybody out there in the locker room who wants to tell me to fire a coach you bring your ass to this ring and you know what did that the guy do it nope i kind of wish that he had i kind of wish that he had just like not not aggressively not violently just like said hey you know coach wants me on the field and security says oh i don't know if coach wants it and just walked over to him and said hire new coaches jimbo would have just been like i i respect your boldness in offering this advice and i am obligated to accept i will return with peltz sir you brave sir you are our new offensive line coach congratulations
Starting point is 01:13:34 I would, by the way, this is one of those matchups where there are some fan bases and coaches where I would say that the fan base was definitely about it and the coach was not or that the coach was about it, but the fan base was not, right? For instance, I don't know. If Brian Kelly has a fan yelled at him and he says, you bring your ass down here and talk to me, neither one of them is about it. Right. Neither one of them. Brian Kelly doesn't want it in the face. but if Jimora says it to a UCLA fan oh man Jimora would love to kill again
Starting point is 01:14:08 would love to kill again he might be exiting the field at this point even after a victory this week going into the stands on his own yeah no he might just be looking for guys right like what you hold a drink just Mr. I'm hold a drink sitting there good win hey good win coach say that fucking shit again say it one more time
Starting point is 01:14:28 I got a knife in both of my shoes to be accurate if you go in the UCLA stands you are going to be literally looking for people yeah they're not easy to spot this is why this is why listen i know that we've spoken a lot of bad things into existence like the pen state uh notre dame national championship game but and also lane kiven scoring 69 points also that also that yeah but ucla head coach steved azio god almighty what did they ever do to you sorry please continue I was saying and if it's LSU right actually if it's most places and most coaches in the SEC West I'm pretty sure they're all about it now they might have some some bad
Starting point is 01:15:15 information and some poor judgment right for instance if it's old miss I think the coach would be about it because he's he's a big old lunk I think the guy in the stands he might be about it for two seconds and then realize he's miscalculated and made a serious error and and drastically overestimated his ability to fight because that sounds like an old miss fan. Gus Malzahn is not about it. No, Gus Malzahn is not about it
Starting point is 01:15:40 because fighting isn't on his list of things to do that day that he wrote down at 4.45 a.m. So sorry, I can't do it. It's just not programmed. If you'd schedule it, it could be in there, right? Dan Mullen? I am afraid Dan Mullen would be about it. Yeah, but he'd be in a real, like,
Starting point is 01:15:57 high school wrestling way. He's like, all right, we're going to do this I got the mat over here I got my brother Rick he's going to ref it all right he hates me so don't worry he's going to be fair I got the singlet on already there's one for you let's go
Starting point is 01:16:11 yeah he's just yeah the Mississippi state fan is going to be like I ain't taking my chaw out me neither yeah you know puts his mouth guard in over it right
Starting point is 01:16:25 but yeah like everyone in the SEC West I'm pretty sure about everyone in the SEC East. I'm definitely sure they're not, like, all of them. Derek Mason's about it. Jim McIlwain will be like, you're all here for my attorney. Fighting of Andy fans. What in the world is that?
Starting point is 01:16:44 Fighting of Andy fans like Butler? Well, no, yeah, you, you, you, that's a drunk orthodontist. You side swipe his dad's Mercedes. You hit my other range rover. Hang on now. Will Mustchamp versus South Carolina fan? Come on now.
Starting point is 01:17:01 I had two coaches and two fan bases where I was pretty sure that there was a 100% matchup between bout it in the stands and absolutely bout it on the field. One, Will Mustchamp. He's wanted to kill someone for years. And two, a South Carolinian,
Starting point is 01:17:18 famously the most impulsive Americans with the worst judgment. They'll always spoil for a fight. It's always raring to go. Who will fire first and with no understanding of the odds? South Carolina. And the other one would be Florida State. Like I am 100% certain that that person in the stands was like,
Starting point is 01:17:40 I'm going to walk myself down there. I got it. And Jimbo was like, I'm going to take my shoes off to fight. We're going to get rid of West Virginia out here. I got I got to take my clogs off. Hold on. You son of a bitch. You want to do that.
Starting point is 01:17:58 this mountain style like you'll be like why does jimbo have a three inch long thumbnail oh god he's trying to take his eye out with it he just grew it i saw him he grew it right then you want a virginia brand you son of a bitch like fucking west virginia wolverine yeah be like last of the bro hekins down there

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