Shutdown Fullcast - Shutdown Fullcast 7.40: Spencer Resets Everything

Episode Date: November 13, 2017

Georgia got whooped. Notre Dame got whooped. Michigan State got whooped. Tennessee has given the reins to Whoopin Recipient Specialist Brady Hoke. The Playoff Committee might be in for a whoopin. Syracuse's defense got whooped. Oh, there's also some audio we left in here from when Spencer had to reset his whole computer so Jason and Ryan invent a movie about a man going back and re-making all of the same mistakes. Weirdly, this movie is not called "What If Georgia Plays Auburn Again In The SEC Championship?" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Bienvenido I'll shut down fullcast Solomente in Español Because los hurricanes Those Cains You's back, baby I know everyone says it

Because you say you're back all the time 3.05 305 3.05 3.05 3.05 3.05. I thought we were starting in Spanish because Iowa and Iowa

State are again unranked, meaning that El Asico has been restored. Oh, man. Nope, nope. The only ass going into this is Notre Dame's, because guess what? Got punted. Got punted repeatedly.

They put up the Ocho. El Ocho! They put up the eight. That's an impressive way to get blown out. Three, three sad. Zero, zero, zero is an occasion. That's a historical note, right? seven you tried eight oh you had ambitions you thought you thought mathematically you could come back and that's the saddest thing and eight on the scoreboard and eight's like finding a note from somebody who later died in a mine it's like i plan to escape margaret i'll see you on thursday with my with with my newfound riches exactly there are a few different notes you can find in that mine like like like like like z

Zero is like, I'm glad I'm down here. Fuck all they all up there. I wish you were down here with me, you sons up, bitches. The three is like, of the good life. Seven is like, oh, well, you know, they're obstacles to overcome. Whatever. Eight is like, when I get out of here, can we go on a date, check yes or no. It's a little, it's even a little crazier than that.

It's like, so I think my body is now. now inoculated against interceptions, and they can't hurt me. So no matter how many I throw, I'll only get stronger. That's what I believe. I've been eating moss on the inside of this mine, and I think it's making, it's opening up parts of my mind that I didn't even know existed. I'm going to stay in the mine. I think that's where victory is.

I've made friends down here. I think, and the two is, I'm not locked in here with the mine. The mine's locked in here with me. Yeah. The two is the mind writing the note, being like, hey, yeah, boy, Dave sure is a dip shit. Don't know why he'd go spulunking by himself without any gear, not tell anybody where he went, and forget all his medication. But here we are. Anyway, sorry about Dave. Just in an iPhone 6, it's not a headlamp. It's not a headlamp. It is with enough tape. for a while for a while the thing is he was pointing it straight at his face the other point

is this no there's no lTE in the cave so don't bother calling anyone in Notre Dame because guess who took you deep and left you there that'd be the Miami Hurricanes now I was a bit shocked by this because I didn't think Notre Dame with all things would look slow but man they look slow and then that wasn't that wasn't the tack that's not the tack in 2017 is to say Notre Dame doesn't have talent because they do um that talent though um it ain't as fast especially along the offensive line not a good offensive line and uh when they tried to run sideways on the canes that that didn't that didn't work actually when they tried to run forward against the canes that didn't work the only direction where the run game really worked

was backwards they were very successful running backwards. It was a strength. I got to say that. Even in a loss, you've got to find a silver lining. Silver lining here. The backwards run game, it's very strong for Notre Dame. It's equally odd seeing Miami's running game be so damn good without their starter. You know, this is not the running back committee that you expected to see for the hurricanes. And they just had no problem. They just were like, okay, here you go, 12 yards here, 18 yards, Yep, 40 yards here. Yep, cool. All right. We'll throw it around a little, not more than we have to. You'll throw it around a little more than that, and you'll be bad at it. And then we'll all go home. Yeah, this is mostly a matter of four turnovers, because I know everyone will look at the score and go, whew, man, that's a complete domination. It's not too different than what Miami's been doing all year long. It's just that Notre Dame was particularly generous because Miami's been getting turnovers all year long.

be seen they have it in case they haven't mentioned it they have a chain for those kind of things yeah they do I mean at this point I do think they are going to run into a problem where possession of the chain is going to start getting fought over I think they need multiple turnover chains is what I'm saying and you can maybe add more bangles to your particular chain are you are you saying that they need like a precious moment I was going to go. I think they need to adopt the NCAA, they need to adopt the NCAA catch rule. You know, tie goes to, you know, you need to really, really stipulate out the rules here.

I know, I know rules aren't your, aren't your forte, Miami, and that's why we love you. But I think you're going to want to establish some paperwork here as to exactly who gets custody of the chain. Well, hold on. The NCAA has already said you can give rings to your team. And it doesn't have to be, oh, we won the conference, or, oh, like, Tennessee gave the team rings for winning, like, a bowl game not too long ago. So, like, you can get away with this. I would argue a necklace is nothing but a particularly large, floppy ring, right? I think so.

It's a ring that's fucking brilliant. It's a ring that's lost integrity. No, it's a ring that is adaptable, okay? could you just say it is a ring for a very very large person yeah absolutely this is this is a ring for Vince Wilfork I'm surprised we're starting with this game though why was there was there another big game that had a disastrous embarrassing result for a program that is near and dear to this podcast yeah I mean Friday night Stanford beat Washington that's what no we're not going I mean yes Stanford did be Washington.

This may be the last time we talk about the Pact 12 on the shutdown forecast for the rest of the season, barring Apple Cup because Apple Cup is interesting and a little bit fighty, and maybe the UCLA job. Maybe we'll throw that in the ring. But other than that, I don't think we're going to talk about you, Pac-12, and that's probably fine. I made you a generous offer on Twitter, $7,800 for SB Nation to air all of your games next season. And do you know what you did?

You didn't even fucking respond. You would think I would get the courtesy of at least a counteroffer. We want $12,000. You know what? I would have done it. But now I won't. Dipshits. Hey, I'll kick in on that if you want.

No, we're negotiating. What are you doing? What are you doing? One Pact 12 game per week. They can't hear this. This, listen, this is the Pact 12 network of podcast. No one can hear. hear it that's true it comes out at extremely irregular hours people are insanely unhappy with the

quality of it nobody's quite sure why the three of us are on it and san diego state could probably beat all of us yeah no checks all the boxes uh no i i assumed spencer was going to talk about the other team that scored 40 points oh wait he's here now i'm back okay that was fun. Hopefully this will work. Yeah, we had a little conversation with that. It's fine. Can you hear me? Yes. I did it already.

No. It's still just, dear God, this is, this is fuck. It is pretty crackily. It really doesn't all this in, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's absolutely fucking terrible. This is why I like when people tweet me, they're like, you edit the full cast? Oh, you know what? I think it'd be perfectly acceptable to assault us people on the street.

like seriously i'm what what i'm gonna do i don't know what the fuck is up here okay i'm gonna restart everything because this is possessed damn he's going to burn his house well wait marianne we're getting a divorce why because skype isn't working we're gonna get remarried we'll get remarried tomorrow don't worry about okay okay can you just be cool i'm trying to podcast jim bankoff i need you to fire me the business of the future. Georgia Tech, take my degree away.

I hear my relinquish all my degrees. City of Tampa. All those arrest records, throw them out. It's the only way to get the virus out of the system. I promise I'll recommit the crime so we can get the paperwork straight. Okay. We're going to fix it.

I'm going to relive my life exactly how I did, which is the saddest part every mistake remade this is like a movie somebody made in 1997 i'm certain of it well what we're describing as groundhog day but you you choose to make this happen it's like a ground off day knockoff that totally came out of like 1997 where like a man decides probably jim care or adam samler decides that like this one thing i fucked up i'm actually a bad dad i gotta go back can relive my entire life and change one detail. But then he realizes, no, it was perfect the way it was

because I have this child. My son was meant to hate me. It will make him stronger. My horrible son is perfect the way he was. Tad, Tad, I'm sorry. I tried to make you love me. He'd have a very 90s movie name. Oh, my beautiful boy butt burger.

loves me because i accepted him for who he is in the end he was me and then you're like harry conic junior is like a supporting actor in this why why did he do that he's good the offspring play they're also in the movie though i have to go back to the offspring concert where it all went wrong also method manager's supporting actor this movie sounded pretty good method man plays a family court judge huh who's high all the time who's high all the time well he's high cop in the credits method man high cop they called him by his they called him terence they had like he was in the movie a lot i don't know why he's listed as high cop

And then the spinoff a year later. Highcock. Okay. Is that better? It's different. How? We're leaving everything we just had in. Don't worry.

Of course. That's for sure. We're still rolling, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Never stop. I don't want to forget about these good ideas. No.

This podcast is a Kansas State drive. It keeps going. And the goal is to be long. Not necessarily good. Not necessarily end in anything. just a two fucking clock i think that's the good i think that's a good segue if you want it okay yeah go ahead that that's exactly what mississippi state tried to do at alabama oh god man they did though i'm not making not making i know i know i'm just so annoyed with mississippi state because

they had two fourth downs a fourth and one that they could have gone to after a made field goal had a penalty on it that they could have replayed could have taken the ball again and tried to get a first down, which like, all told, I can, I can kind of say like, yeah, fine. They wanted to get, that got them to seven points that they felt like they had, it would have been a bad momentum shift if they had gotten knocked off the field on fourth down, whatever. But then they had this fourth and three on, I believe, the other side of the 50 late in the game. And they're just like, well, we'll punt it away and immediate, like, Bamba with no trouble at all. Just marches down the field on them.

It was the most frustrating thing I've ever seen. It just, and Spencer, you were absolutely right. When you said that when you play Alabama, you have to play like you're the underdog and behind the whole time. The entire time. You can't ever, you can't ever start being like, well, let's just ease off that. No, keep the gas pedal to the fucking floor. The entire time. And it's weird because you say put the pedal down to the floor the entire time.

And that's correct, but also a strange phrase because the other way to beat them is to play like an underdog and play really, really slow, which is kind of, it's weird. When you think about teams that have gone head to head with them, a lot of times they're teams that have played as quickly as possible, right? Right. like Ole Miss with under Hugh Freeze or you know the Sumlin Mansell team that managed to beat them in Tuscaloosa or when you think about Clemson and the way Deshaun Watson you know played it stretches against them for for the Tigers in the championship game and even in the game that Clemson lost the year before right like this was actually like kind of an innovative approach for not just any team but like like a division. team facing them right and they came real close to pulling it off and when it came time to continue that and to play like the entire manual of underdog football to the hill they flinched and they punted and they didn't take the they didn't take the chance to get the ball back and keep eating clock and to keep that offense off the field because here's the other thing what have we talked

about when it comes to college football and emotions that there's only one man who really has them, and it's Todd Grantham, the defensive coordinator for Mississippi State. He's the only person with emotions. They're very, very big emotions. You know how men are. I didn't know Blitz was an emotion, but okay. Blitzing is. Good morning, Todd.

How are you feeling Blitz? Blitzing is what you do. That's pretty accurate, though. I mean, it's how men show emotions, okay? You know, men, they're unstable. You know, they just get so emotional about it. everything. And Todd Grantham, he's a man

with a lot of feelings, all right? God, you know how he stresses those feelings? He would be an amazing president. He would be, just day three. My bowels are all backed up. Launch all the nukes. Launch all of them! This is the most damning thing.

Okay? Because it's bad. It's bad enough. Do you mean Denmark? I mean both. When you get into the situation, where there is a, I believe, what was it, was it third and 13? It was third, it was third, it was third and 15. There were 31 seconds left in the game, and Alabama had the ball at its own 43. So they were not in position to kick a field goal to win the game.

And they obviously had a long way to go to either get into that position or keep the drive going. Alabama lines up. They are, they're probably going to fast at Calvin Ridley. Now, this is just a guess because this play never happened, okay? But Calvin Ridley pretty much bailed out Alabama on any third and long or second and long situation that they were facing, right? Well, it's also a good guess because they completed 10 passes and five of them went to Calvin Ridley. Correct. Pretty much their best offensive tool in the passing game is Calvin Ridley.

The ball's going to him. Mississippi State lines up. They're showing blitz. All right? They're going to bring heat. And guess who calls the timeout? Mississippi State. so they go to the sideline

Alabama sees that they're bringing pressure listener what's Alabama going to do they're probably going to throw a slant this isn't hard they're going to throw a hot route to Calder Ridley if they see pressure

so naturally as a defensive coordinator if you were not emotional you might back off live up blitz show pressure and then fall into coverage you might do that and they come back out of a timeout and they run the same blitz they were showing.

You think Alabama noticed that? Yeah, 31 yards later, effectively ending the game and setting up Alabama for the way. I like that Todd Grantham, his approach, he does that thing where you tell, you know where you tell like an angry person or an angry child like, okay, you're feeling very upset right now. I want you to take some deep breaths and count to 10. And he did that. That's what that time out was. And he was still mad. He was still mad and just wanted to blitz it out.

This is still proof of my theory that if you give Dan Mullen 20 years, he will make Mississippi State the best football team in the SEC West. It's going to take him 20 years. That's how, and you know what? That's probably about five years ahead of schedule, given the rest of Mississippi State's history. So he's doing real well. But gradually, eventually, everyone will lose to Mississippi State. Dan Moll just has to get around to it. We are on year nine, say you're not even halfway there.

Yeah. It's a process. It's a process. It's going to take years, years. Came within one score again Alabama now. Another four years, it's going to be a one-point loss. Okay. It's a responsible mortgage. That's what this is. A coach, a mortgage, Dan Mullen. The world's most unpalindrome palindrome. We're still not talking about the game. I assume we're going to talk about. Do we have some sort of pact where we're not going to talk about the fact that Georgia got obliterated on national television by one of its most hated rivals who, like, looked smarter than it, even though the whole thing is that Georgia is supposed to be a smarter place than Auburn? Are we not going to talk? If we're not going to talk about it, just let me know.

Just let me know that we're not going to talk about. Is Georgia supposed to be a smarter place than Auburn? I mean, if you ask any Georgia. fan yeah well like why would why would they have an opinion on that though that's some big tension right there i've never heard it is there is there degree smack talk within the SEC oh absolutely absolutely yeah absolutely there's there's pretty much there's pretty much vanderbilt going we're not the SEC no and everybody else is going we agree we agree Yeah, I hear.

That is some big ten shit. I do enjoy that there's really very little difference between an Auburn fan and a UGA fan. Maybe Auburn fans have this. They do somewhat buy into the notion that Auburn is a family, which I agree. What would be more family-ish than to be Georgia show up for a weekend barbecue and end up in a surprise brawl with someone you haven't seen in a while? to get blindsided at the barbecue. Here's the thing, it's not a surprise. This happened, you know that this fight is coming, okay?

You, you, I mean, you remember, you remember what Gus did two Thanksgivings ago. God damn it. Yeah, but, you know, you've been working out, man. You didn't think it'd go like this. Things have been going real well. I like the idea of Georgia rolling up, like, we're going to show off our cool new trick.

You know, we got this cool stunt we do. call rushing for 200 yards we're gonna we're gonna really impress the those auburn folks this time the auburns and then they just shut you down and humiliate you in front of the whole you know front of the whole potluck

damn pulled up he pulled up in his new well actually new to him it's probably used Lexus right it's a Georgia thing right so pull up in a big new truck that's just that's just good value all right yeah it's it's a F350 that's for sure exactly did does he need it no but that F350 it's

It's gotten hundreds of rushing yards this year. You pull up in the new F-350. The minute you pull up, Gus thought, I'm going to beat your ass. You still driving the same single-wing truck, Gus? Yeah. I don't know.

This F-350, man. It's been pulling everything. Oh, and then he had to tow your ass out of the mud. Oh, that's embarrassing. What is that? Was that an automatic? Yeah. You know I don't drive stick?

I got these velvety hands. I'm not ruining my short game. hands? You kidding me? Who? Just sitting there flipping the Bubba burgers on the grill thinking I'm going to whip his ass in front of everybody. That's what happened. After the game, he filmed saying

boy, we whipped the dog crap out of them, didn't we? Because that's what Gus Malzahn did. Like almost into the mic, if you listen to it, it almost sounds fake. But it's obviously Gus Melzahn. He's just real close as if he leaned into the mic like, don't pick this up when we beat the dog crap out of them

just a secret between you and me America is like Bernie Mac addressing America Yeah that's yeah America We got problems I can't block I can't run block

I can't pass block My beautiful freshman quarterback They left them out there I think my favorite thing from this game was everyone knew The blueprint to shutting down Georgia Like, fucking Florida figured it out. They couldn't do it.

No. But it was broadcast before the game that they knew what it was, which was make Jake from win the game, not make him complete a slant, make him win the game. South Carolina openly talked about it too. They just couldn't do it. Auburn didn't say all that stuff, but they did it. Like, it was the thing to pay attention to when Georgia had the ball was they're going trying to run.

It ain't going to work. Next drive. Same thing. Next draft. Third and long. Next draft, third and long. and from he played pretty well considering no run game pass rushing his face all day long lots and lots and lots of third longs i thought he played very well for a freshman on the road i thought so too he took man he he took a beating too he took like that kind of beating where we're like he's he took a beating where he posted a bible verse on twitter afterwards that's when i know that the auburn defense got the auburn defense got to you is when you're like i guess the lord has a plan has made up touched from above you know when you have to when you get beat so bad you have to you got to lean on

faith now not mocking jake from's faith i'm just saying he had to invoke it okay we've all we've all been there you don't do that when you you win by 10 you know you're like hey thanks god i do sincerely want to know if you um if you go to a georgia church and your pastor or priest use georgia as the point of reference in the sermon on sunday please let me me know. I really want to hear about that. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Because I'm so certain it happened. So, so certain. Well, the Lord, the Lord gives us gifts. So, so many gifts. But if we squander those gifts, if we don't properly manage them, and if we constantly put ourselves in bad third down situations in life, we can't ask the Lord to bail us out with a penalty flag. Did the Lord find you

wide open and did you drop it as Georgia did twice on Saturday? Which even if those had been turned into touchdowns we still would have lost because that's how big the differential but let's let's ignore all that. My point is just catch your blessings

because then the loss will look more respectable. You know, I'll tell you what, Auburn, and Auburn's defensive line they did some horrendous things to that offensive line. That's not a bad offensive line Oh, not at all. They got thrown around big time.

Also, I know things are going well for Auburn because all the following things happened. They got Carry On Johnson, who he better be a good running back. His name is Carry On. And he got 32 carries. And he's the kind of running back who when he gets 32 carries. Looks like 33 is going to be easy. 34 might be easier. And if Gus Melzon has that, well, he hasn't had that since Trey Mason, right?

And that year went pretty well for him. If they have a running back who can do that and carry and get that kind of like mileage without any serious fatigue in a game and if that gets stronger. Oh, and also carry the ball because a big play towards the end of the game was a throwback screen that Johnson just carries happily. Like, oh, I can do that too. I'm one of those few college running backs who can actually catch the ball and run with it like a receiver. That's not anything you want Gus Melz on and the Auburn offensive staff to have. right especially with the quarterback who oh yeah can get them the ball with with accuracy and touch on those it's not it's not anything you want to deal with the shit just looks so damn replicable from start to finish that like okay if Auburn gets past Bama which

Bama is Georgia with more options on offense we can say but also with at this point maybe less depth on defense you know in the Iron Bowl of carry-ons up to 30 carries we might be down to Bama's third fourth string linebackers with their injury issues so Auburn can beat Bama oh man the sandman coming out hot well I mean I I did I did I was a one of this program last week who predicted Auburn would win that's true that's check the rest you did that's true and also in the bull projections post this morning I have Auburn in the playoff by that was working my way toward that but i mean if auburn gets georgia again what would be different like this wasn't the kind of game where it was like oh there's this

kick return there's this interception there's this that and the other it was like albairn is good at making you not do the things you're good at like auburn is designed to be this georgia team how can you what can you do about that yeah they they also they did do a lot of schematic things that seemed very very very new for at least this year's Auburn team. A lot of like combo routes and things where Sidham would intentionally move the linebackers of the safety with his eyes to open up huge gaps later for somebody in the middle of the field. Like there are some things that I think you can maybe if you're Georgia and you do end up playing Auburn again in a championship game. You can look at tape and say, okay, these are the ways in which they.

made us look stupid. I don't know that you can necessarily avoid them, but you can be aware of them. George's defense, though, I mean, at first they were holding Auburn to field goals, and you kind of got the sense of like, well, maybe Auburn is sort of unloading everything early, but they're not finishing in the end zone, and that's going to come back to bite them, but they still had more. And that was the real problem, was that the defense could net, like, at no meaningful point could the bulldog defense get get them off the field and i don't know if they can fix that yeah there's a there's a thing here um that you know you look at a score like this and you go well maybe this was just a matter of some big plays no man no they were they were

so many like oh look carry on johnson's and picking up a second one they got 25 first downs they got they got two they got two sacks they got two sacks they got two sacks in this game. This is the same team that what, gave a 10 sacks to Clemson? I'm not saying you got to get to 10, but Lord. I think my favorite Auburn drive in this whole game was actually it was technically a Georgia drive, but my favorite Auburn feat was they forced two Georgia three and outs on one drive. They forced one penalty, forced another punt. It was just, you are hopeless, Georgia. Hopeless. That drop. That drop. That drop. dropped deep ball wide open what in like the second quarter or something that was the one time i was like

okay that might be the sign that the football gods have said fuck you georgia today this is yeah this is over there's another thing too from from den throw a pick you would think like oh man freshman qb just went all over the place right through like three picks i don't know maybe like Notre Dame against Miami, you know, having a guy throw two picks and having another quarterback throw a pick six. Nope. From play clean. It's worse when you see that because you go, oh, the other team just blew you off the ball the entire game. Yeah, he didn't, he didn't throw any picks because they weren't on the field. They were just, and no, I mean, that sounds, actually didn't have the ball. That sounds shitty, but other than the touchdown to

open the first to open to open to open the game they go five plays three yards three plays seven yards three plays minus 11 yards three plays eight yards six plays 27 yards that still ended in a punt i think that's the um that might be the one that uh jason's referring to and then three plays one yard where they oh this was the best part this was the dumbest part of the game this is where Georgia deserve to lose this game. At the end of the first half, it's 16-7. Auburn has gotten the ball back, but they have it deep in their own territory with like a minute to play. And Georgia's defense steps up. They stop Carri-on-Johnson for no gain on first down, and then on second down, they stop him for three. He only gets three yards. And then they call a

timeout. The clock's at 42 seconds, but they have one more timeout remaining. Jared Stedham completes a very short, like, kind of bubble screeny pass to Darius Slayton, one yard. Georgia calls time out again. There are 36 seconds on the clock. Auburn punts the ball, not very well, because Georgia returns the ball all the way to the Auburn 26. There are now 17 seconds left. Now, Georgia has, I believe, no timeouts left at this point, but they have the ball at the 26, down nine points. Spencer Hall, what are you going to try to do at this point?

Well, let's see. I'm down nine. Yep. I got no timeouts. No timeouts, but 17 seconds left to play. So you've got time to work with. Yeah. You know what? I mean, I got a good quarterback, right?

Yeah. Got some receivers that can make things happen. You got running backs that can catch the ball reasonably well. Sure, sure. You know what? We're going to put them in the pattern. We're going to throw a couple of, you know, we're just going to put it out there, see what happens, right?

No. No, you're not. No? Sony Michelle took the ball to the left side of the line for one yard. They spiked the ball on second and nine with four seconds left, and then they missed a 42-yard field goal because they fucking deserved to. You had the ball of the 26, and you didn't even try?

It was infuriate. They had enough time where they don't even have to go end zone there. They can say, all right, we have two guys going to the end zone. We have two guys setting up intermediate routes. Worst case, we're completing a nine-yard pass. We're spiking the ball there. We're kicking the field goal. At least it's fucking closer.

Sorry. Sorry. No, that's deserved. Georgia deserves this. Yeah, they got it twice because, admittedly, I think that they were circumstantially somewhat screwed from the beginning, correct? But they ate it and abetted, you know? When you got the devil on your shoulder telling you everything wrong, don't go along with it. Don't help them out.

because that's what Georgia did. Everything you say is true. They still have a good chance to make the playoff. It's not a question. Absolutely. So calm down, Georgia. You're fine. Which is amazing because Georgia can have a game where they did everything as badly as they possibly could,

with maybe the exception of the passing game, right? That they only did almost as badly as they possibly could. I mean, that was okay. Right? Like, they're going to look at it and go, this is the part of the house that burned less than the rest of it, right? This only has smoke damage. Yeah.

Like, they can throw up this absolute, like, turd of a game. And they still might win the national title. They still might win the SEC. Football's amazing. Because they just coughed up a big one. They're like, got that out of our system. That thing's been rattling around. And therefore, I don't know how long.

You know, they just cast out a demon is what they did. Now we're putting it in Georgia Auburn terms. That's true. Plus, it's important to remember that, even this late in the season, one week does not determine who you are or how good you are or how we should think of you. And I say this because, oh, my God, Ohio saved what the shit. You'd ask me, if you'd ask me a week ago, who's the worst team in college football this week? I feel like Ohio State.

It's awful. If you asked me this week, who's the most ass-kicking tyrant of a team in college football? It'd be like, oh, God, that's Ohio State. 100%. New week, new me. It's like every fucking week is a different. Like, if you go back to all the way to the playoff, like, every single week, there, either they look like Ohio State or the other team looks like Ohio State.

And you kind of don't know which way it's going to go. It's good. It's like every two weeks you combine into a superhero movie. And Iowa, that's Act 1, where Batman gets his ass kicked and it's like, oh, no, they broke my back and I got to somehow crawl out of this cave. And this was Act 2. Sorry, Michigan State. Geez, ah, these numbers, these numbers are not fit for children, not fit for many adults. This featured one of the saddest field goals I've ever seen when Michigan State kicked one

at the end of the first half down 35 points already, and yeah, those are the only points they scored. Great job, guys. You got outgained by over 300 yards. every comeback starts with a single point all right or three

yeah yeah it's just that one didn't that one didn't finish it started still going yeah still going still going they're gonna pick it up in a year

watch this spring game it's when they really roll it up Vegas is smart man Vegas is really fucking did it this shit Vegas is smart because Vegas actually bothers

to go back and look at the other games And you're like, man, how did Michigan State get beats them? This is the same team that beat Minnesota by three, all right? They beat Indiana by eight. I get that we were all excited that they beat Penn State, and that's still meant a lot a week ago. But man, this team has been on the struggle bus a lot this season. I don't know, but that's the way it always is, though.

Like, every year we look up like, well, the computers all adore Ohio State and Michigan State. they got them ranked like 47th and you can look and see like Michigan State recovers 100% of fumbles that can't possibly sustain itself you know like Michigan State is completely inflated

you know bullshit that just somehow keeps and I say this with all effects is my favorite FBS team no one knows how or why it wins it just keeps rolling but the fiddler came home or whatever the phrase is you know time to pay the cows

time to pay the cows. Well, like, this is, I think the deeper you get into the season, right? The more you can see that there are, I don't really believe in momentum, but I do believe in timing and in situations that definitely benefit one team or another. Like, for instance, where did Michigan State like end up last week? Right. They ended up where we, where Jason and I put them, right, which is in the veil of improbable success that Michigan State continues to be way better than they are, despite the numbers, right? Like, oh, man, how with the numbers? The only number Michigan State cares about is W. W is not a number? Ask Mark Dantoneo. It's two Vs, all right? And that's a Roman numeral.

It's limited thinking like that that keeps you from being a Michigan State spark. It's 10. And that's the number of points we try to. This score in every game. W, you get it? So, like, we thought, oh, man, that's, they're right exactly where we thought they should be, right? Meanwhile, Ohio State coughs up what is the most, like, the most goddamn improbable collapse of the year, right? They give up 55 to Iowa. And you go, I don't know.

So, so turn in that corner, you're like, one. This is exactly when Michigan State should fall off regress and become exactly what people think they are. And two, they're facing a team that wanted nothing more than to dismantle someone. Yeah, this is, yeah, it's just, I mean, I don't know, this feels extremely Urban Meyer. Urban Meyer's teams just do not lose two games in a row. It doesn't matter if they look, it doesn't matter if they look terrible the week before. But this was true at Florida, with the exception of 2007, which we all agree is the year that proves everyone is dumb.

and wrong. And it was, and it's been true at Ohio State. You go back and you, you know, 2015, they lose that Michigan State game. Everybody's upset because they didn't run the ball enough. Got Michigan next on the road. Number 10 Michigan at that point, 42.13. Just destroy him. I don't know. Like, even the Urban Meyer revenge thing was flipped on his head here. Because like, okay, Clemson 31, Ohio State, zero. That set up an entire office. of oh shit urban's gonna have these fellas ready to roll you know like they're gonna be spitting fucking mad all this entire year and then they get blown out at home by oklahoma and then after that it was all they're going to destroy everything in their path and they did and then they got

destroyed by iowa so listen listen the clemson the clemson thing meant that they destroyed indiana that's all and they did and then they were satisfied they have taken their fill it's one for one it's legit it's fair we have corrected the ledger we have fixed everything yeah i don't i don't know that i don't know that this this ass

beating doesn't make complete sense and there's very few of those right like we've had some this year which have been completely baffling right like cow just turning around and beat no wazoo 37th 3 on a random friday night that that'll happen right

but this this one checks out Now, you know, it doesn't. If you take the names off the teams, take logos off the helmets, yes, total sense. You know, it's the recent history in the series that that's what will baffle me here. It's just not supposed to happen like this. Okay. Are you more baffled by this result, or Wake Forest scoring 64 points and getting 734 yards on Syracuse?

I didn't pay attention to this game at all while it was happening. I couldn't have told, only because somebody tweeted at the fullcast account, am I even aware that this is a real thing? But yeah, they threw for 363. They ran for 371. They scored 64 points, including 24 points in the fourth quarter. What? What are you doing, Lake Forest? Settle down, wait.

I know, man. Just chill. He's rumbling, rumbling through the bar. You're way too high, Wake Forest. You're way too high. I don't even believe in that concept. But damn, Wake, that's too high. It's way too high. Let's do some ad reads, please. From Van. Please read the following in Mac Brown's voice.

I'm not going to read the following just yet. I'm going to get into Mac Brown character, which is pretty much just George W. Bush, the way I do it. And we will also note that Texas successfully avenged their most bitter rivalry loss of last year and beat the Kansas Jayhawks. Congratulations to Texas Hookham. Damn right.

Took it down. And you know, speaking of avenging things, I'm supposed to say the following. And you'll all feel like you got some form of vengeance when you hear this joke. Because I got a joke to tell you.

Not particularly good at these. But I'm going to try it. And I'm going to try to get through the whole thing without leaving early. Question. What is the difference between a Camara and an erection?

The answer? I don't have a Camara. Hook him. Still got it. I'll talk to you later. Good one, Coach. Jason? So, this one relates to the biggest game

we have yet to discuss yeah um this is from colin and of course these uh ad reeds were part of our charity drive hurricane disaster relief um Colin would like i guess to answer this question if oklahoma wins the national championship does that make their rookie head coach a lincoln continental um by one definition of the word continental um he would be the coach of the best football best college football team on the continent. It goes without saying. Canada's got college football. It's not very good. Mexico's got college football. It's got a long way to go. So, yes, by that, definitely. I think there are a few Lincoln models that would be a bit more apt for Lincoln Riley. This week, you could go with

Lincoln MKT. Mayfield killed, Mayfield killed TCU. You also got the Lincoln Sport, which was a Lincoln model that was discontinued about 50 years before Lincoln Riley's birth. Yes, he is 17 years old, head coach. It's very impressive. The Lincoln Mardi Gras, maybe you go to the Sugar Bowl semifinal. The Lincoln Indianapolis, which

shit, you went to the Big Ten title game. It said a big 12th title game. Better hurry back. They're going to put Kansas State in your spot. Which means that shit's going to be over before you get there. There was a concept model, the Lincoln Machete, which shit, that means you went to the St. Pete Bowl.

You have to hack your way back out. You ain't going to make it. You just live in St. Pete now. The one that's most appropriate to the title games city, which is Atlanta. It's roads. It's confusing roads. I'll have the same name. Very few of them are in grids.

They're all going in every angle you can imagine all at once, and they're all wall-to-wall with cars. The Lincoln Navigator. Lincoln, if you make it to our town, you're going to need some help, get into the stadium. um and if you do win hey we got a lincoln coronation for you so you can tell the entire story of oklahoma season uh just based on lincoln lincoln cars that either were made weren't made or were never meant to be made okay now i have to do my thing um so i am combining three different charity asks these are all various from Nick, Kevin, and Sanjay. They all wanted, in some form, the Brady-Hoke voice.

And I haven't really... I know Spencer and I did Brady-Hope getting arrested by Jeff Sessions probably, like, six weeks ago at this point. But I haven't... There hasn't been, like, a lot of occasion for Brady-Hoke voice, but there is now. Because he's back on top. Which top is that, Spencer?

He's back on Rocky Top, y'all. Don't do it. Oh, wish that I was on old Rocky Top down in the Tennessee Hills. Ain't no smoggy, smoke on Rocky Top. Ain't no telephone bills. Once I had a girl on Rocky Top, half a bear, other half cat, wild as a mink, but sweet as start a pop. I still dream about that

I do dream about soda my doctor says it's perfectly healthy I'm excited to be here in the University of Tennessee for the volunteers remember volunteers you love them and that's why it's okay that you're not paying them I do get paid I think it's not

clear I was moving it was really you know there's I was about to just like get on your ass and remind you that there's multiple verses to rock at the mall no but that sounded too painful so i appreciate you soldiering through thank you um yeah this all right again because some people get their college football news from this podcast god help

them butch jones has been fired as head coach of the tennessee vols damn we let them know like a week and a half early this i know i know we're pretty we're pretty cool like that um this was not an unexpected move but I think for weeks we were like what the fuck is taking them so long like there is no case to be made there is no new information emerging there didn't seem to be like a date they needed to hit for buyout for buyout reasons or anything like that and then now it all makes sense if they had fired Brady Hoke after the Georgia game

sorry let me start over if they had fired butch jones after the georgia game and continued with the plan they were apparently on where brady hoke becomes the interim coach there is a chance however small that brady hoke can do enough in that limited run of schedule to make a compelling argument to be the full-time head coach in knoxville and they made the smartest choice that they could have which is to say we will not We will not allow you enough time to finish this test, okay? We will not. We're not taking the chance that you're accidentally going to Christmas tree this and get a 15-20, and all of a sudden you're the dean. That's not happening. It's like advertising the all you can eat, but then we're closing to 45 minutes. What?

But I just, I was promised more shrimp. I wanted to go back. Jason, you've missed one Lincoln that you could have used to talk about Lincoln Riley in Oklahoma and explaining their whole season. I would have said that

lost taunting Des Moines would be the LTD, the Lincoln LTD, or alternately losing Iowa State would be the Lincoln LTD because you lost to dirt. We're proud of that dirt in Iowa. Beads America

Were TCU and Oklahoma Actually rooting for Iowa State To beat Oklahoma State Or do they not care? No, they wanted Oklahoma State to win that one Why? Because now the loser is still in line For the Big 12th title game

If Iowa State had won Iowa State will hold the tiebreaker over TCU And the Big 12th title game Would very likely be Oklahoma, Iowa State No, I hear you I just feel like Oklahoma should want That revenge opportunity No, no, just run away from that.

You don't want to know Iowa State, brother. I'm saying the loser of that game is happy that Iowa State law. Sure, sure, sure. Yeah, I get that. The winner, however, would probably prefer to play face it. I was going to say, I think Oklahoma's best strategy is to not play them again, not because they would lose, because if you look like the stat sheet was, like, it was a fluke. It was a good fluke.

Iowa State's had a great year, okay? But statistically, if that happens again, Oklahoma is going to win because they're a better football team on paper on paper not on dirt on Iowa State's got that one to know on the year baby I think a rematch would actually have the unintended

side effect of this I think it would remind everybody that they had actually lost to Iowa State right they'd be like man they beat our state by 40 points but all the voters would be like they lost to them interesting so they're 500 against Iowa State

I and the rest of the committee felt that that the reminder that Oklahoma lost to Iowa State was deeply concerning. We had completely forgotten about that until we saw the highlights during the Big 12th title. I mean, to be fair, that happened at like a noon, right? We always talk about like the Pac-12 effect, but that happened at noon, meaning like, you know, there's like the brunch effect, right? Like, right? Like, oh, I don't know.

I was eating some, like, delicious blueberry, lemon ricotta pancakes. Yeah, that's the 11 a.m. central body. blocks. Yeah. I was just trying to get through some breakfast meets. That happened. Now, we have assured that TCU is going to win the Big 12 championship game, right? Because that's the thing that fucks the Big 12 up the most, right? Yeah, because I think this is the year when every conference does this. Mm-hmm.

Right? Like, every conference is going to have the most mathematically problematical champion imaginable. So, yeah, TCU wins a conference. Who's that going to be out of? the pack 12 Stanford Stanford it's Stanford Stanford they need to not lose to Cal they need Washington to be Wazzo

but that's like none of this is impossible for Stanford for like a really average not that interesting Stanford team yeah exactly like or this that you get like USC Wazoo in the title game and Wazoo somehow manages to pull out

a complete horse shit win out of this and that immediately invalidates the Pact 12 they'll just be like Wazoo that didn't happen that's a procedural error so

11 and 2 Wazoo wins the Pact 12 TCU wins the Big 12 rematch that sentence encapsulates like every big 12 decision over the last decade all culminating in

oh shit the worst possible outcome for the conference you let a bunch of like huge schools leave because you really like this one super super cool popular school and then you

had to do this realignment thing and you had to bring in this troublemaker TCU who like their entire brand is they just fuck up things for like bigger bigger programs. So now they're going to fuck up your entire conference and they're going to do it via a conference title game that everyone

advised you not to have. Like Oklahoma is in line to clinch a playoff spot if it didn't have to play this game as it did two years ago. Oklahoma, you'd I think it's, what is it, Kansas in West Virginia, something like that. And they're in the playoff. They don't even need to go to the title game.

They're good. They're going to be like number three on Tuesday. But anyway, so you have that, and then you have, you have Wazoo and TCU as two lost conference champs. They're just going to put in like three Ohio states in the playoff. You know who's still alive, though, in the Big Ten East. It's Michigan. It's going to do it, man.

It's technically true. They don't, listen, listen, they do have to beat undefeated Wisconsin on the road, then they have to beat Ohio State. So they have a road to go. You're cheating, you're like cheating up on what I was going for, which is this. The worst possible outcome for the Big Ten is for Michigan to do that to face Wisconsin again, right? So we get multiple rematches in conference games. in conference championships

and makes them look absolutely ridiculous and for Wisconsin to lose twice to Michigan the eventual Big Ten champion with two losses and Harbaugh

just smiling atop this smoldering pile of wreckage Well what's great is that it's already it's already mid-November and Michigan fans have not been thinking about the playoff so their notes their notes their talking points their stump speeches they're not ready so they're going to have to get all this shit

get, like, after that Wisconsin game, if they win, they're going to immediately have to pivot to, well, you know, if you look at Michigan scheduled very strong out of conference. That was arguably the best Florida has been all season. Technically, that's true. You don't need to look into it any further. And, and yeah, they'll just, they'll just immediately have to start pivoting into aggressive arguing for why Michigan should get into the playoff. And you know what? If they can beat Ohio State and Wisconsin and Wisconsin, and again and everything else falls into place, I don't know that I have a terrible argument against it at this point. This is going to be an awesome year for the playoff committee. They are going to have to make so many bad decisions,

so many tough decisions. I mean, it kind of lines up. Like, if we can just agree the Pac-12 is out. Oh, yeah. No, no, no, yes. Each of the other four power champs. Yes, there is a clean route to all of it. Wisconsin wins out.

Oklahoma wins out. Clemson or Miami at this point really doesn't matter which one. You can do, you know, the Michigan, the TCU, the Miami loses to pit and beat Clemson. Like, you can do all that bullshit, Auburn, you know, let's just agree with the Pac-12. Sorry, you're just out. Okay, you're fine with that, right? You're probably not. It's just the way it is.

I'm fine with every conference being out and us having to scrap over a bunch of two lost teams that we're trying to, like, sandwich in, right? I mean, I guess a two-lost USC would probably have a kind of a case because both their losses were like, well, we had a lot of injuries, you know? I'm really just trying to find a way to get Alabama a title here, i.e., one loss, not in the championship game, and then they get to the playoff and win everything. I'm just looking out for you guys. That's all I'm about is protecting the Alabama football program, because I can't have you

winning the conference, right? nope you're going to get in you got to not win the conference and then get in the playoff who's like the the one seed that would it might be Miami like Miami's in really good shape to take the one seed if they you know if they went out that would include a win over Clemson everything um if Bama comes rolling in is that four seed an 11 and 1 you know like lose to Auburn but still get put in oh and then we've got so there is also I want to have one other thing. There is a very non-zero chance at this point

that Notre Dame will get to the end of the season and say that they played all four of the five Power 5 conference champions. It's entirely possible. Miami, USC, Stanford, Georgia, Michigan State. All of those teams could win their conference at this point. And Notre Dame could get to the end of it and be like, motherfucker are you are you going to ding us for this because we we went 500 against that yes yes that's that's what's going to happen because this is the best part everyone's going to get to the end of the season and they're going to say well i don't know we played a champions we played a conference championship game you can't fault us for that that's why we have two losses right that's why we got two and notre dame netherdame's going to be like we have two losses but we played all these conference champions

And the voter will come back and go, I don't know, you guys didn't play a conference championship game. Request denied. Request denied. Play the best, play the best military academy. Call it a conference championship game. Do it. Hey, no.

Former conference with Army. Just Army. I don't know, man. Army might beat him. That sounds like Buster Bluth. That's his conference. Notre Dame's going to Army. Come play Army with us.