Shutdown Fullcast - Shutdown Fullcast 8.12: Your Football Team's Rap Equivalent

Episode Date: April 10, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the shutdown fullcast. Oh, you know, we've got a quality time killer this week. This is, this is, again, like the nadir of the offseason. And man alive, we're powering through it in a number of ways. First, for those of you listening for the first time, we're sorry. I'm just apologizing in advance. Two, it's free. It's the best part about a podcast, right?
Starting point is 00:00:28 It's like America. It's free. worthless but fun definitely fun joining me as always uh on the internet's only college football podcast we have ryan nanny live from uh brooklyn new york hi ryan so we didn't get a lot of bites for people sending us friend reactions after they suggested the forecast and that's fine because how on earth would you why would you you know risk your personal relationships like that but i did like the one we got. I don't have it in front of me. But we've definitely tweeted about it
Starting point is 00:01:01 where Buddy sent it to his group texts and there was silence and then there was just somebody being like, Six Flags this weekend? Y'all, you really need to listen to this podcast. It's the hotness. Yeah, that's cool. You thought about going to Magic Mountain. It'd be great.
Starting point is 00:01:22 That said, go look at the Six Flags list of incidents at Six Flags Wikipedia. long lengthy long including i believe at least one decapitation yeah i think there's a couple of those there's one where like back in the 60s or something a ride caught on fire because people were smoking on it um there's a whole there's a range let's just say there's a right lot of stuck oh the roller coaster stuck and we're up here for hours well that looks good compared to some of those um but it doesn't matter because now i'm going to be uh the president's lawyer thanks to spencer
Starting point is 00:01:57 next lot yassol yeah yeah yeah right real quick jason kirk say hi from beautiful kennesaw georgia what did do yeah i was on your couch let i was on your couch last night man we're watching some rasslin we watched a little rassling i mean there are two things that happened this week one there's some wrestling right spring practice is ongoing and that's that's fun that's always ongoing that's that's always ongoing really like what's more ongoing by by the way, then I believe Nebraska's offensive coordinator who said today that that, yeah, every day is game day, man.
Starting point is 00:02:38 That's my favorite that's my favorite sports bar slogan. Come to McGarities where every day is game day. Every day is game day. You are Sisyphus. You can never quit. Come to trivia night. Corona's $2 each.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Game day. I want to name it after something, you know, bars are always named after something alcoholic or beery you know i want to name it like like hops there was a place in tampa it was called you know you're like ah that's that's so festive you know and some places are called like mugs i want to name a place for like something like you know cast off yeast suds hops hubs come to hops we're gonna work on that it's not it's not all the way there. Okay. But if we call it, if we call it Coys,
Starting point is 00:03:29 cast off ye suds, we'll inadvertently attract Spurs fans. So, you'll never believe what this bar actually stands for. What, Mike? It's my extremely terrible. That's actually not an English
Starting point is 00:03:45 accent. It's the accent of a person who is so hard for their team, their EPL team, that they become really bad, fake British just on Saturday. I thought that was Australian. So as a team y'all time up,
Starting point is 00:03:59 the one that like my whole Twitter timeline, every, I don't know, random periods, everyone just went to way into. At like 2 p.m. on a Thursday, you'll be like, what the fuck is going? Why isn't we screamed about Spurs?
Starting point is 00:04:13 Everyone's screaming about the Shroping Shire Rovers all at once using hashtags I don't follow. And it's always the same team. Either there are 100 teams and everyone routes for one or they all root for the same team. I enjoyed people who've been a hardcore Tottenham fan for about eight months.
Starting point is 00:04:30 We're like, classic Spurs. This is the life I chose. This is the life I was born in, too. That's the one everyone likes? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, Tottenham. Now, you say this.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Who's their arch rival? We can just make this up. I think it's, I think it's Coleridge putting Westley. Oh, okay. I might have that for all. F.C. Not, not Bull Ridge Pudding. Not them. Not those wankers. Hell no. Yeah. Those guys, they, um, they draft first.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Now you, you say, they, uh, went too far in the playoffs. You say, you say that this is what your, your timeline is just a bunch of meaningless whatever. But A, I know almost nothing about rest. and have never really followed it. Not because I don't like it. I just never had a wrestling phase, and therefore... Yeah, not, not you need, you didn't have a wrestling, like, focal. Correct.
Starting point is 00:05:33 I think it's because that would make you to Tampa. There is a risk that I would never leave. My blood would be orange. My blood, my blood would be like half Gatorade at that point. Man, how did you get out of, how did you get out of Tampa without a wrestling event in your life? I, I myself don't understand. The Hogan restaurant there, like, under a bridge, I was delighted to see that's where it is. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:02 So that's A. B, last night was WrestleMania. But again, I don't know, like, other than a few top-level things like Ron Rousey's in the WW now and some other shit like that. I have no context for it. C, Twitter on your phone in the morning is just like, here's 18 random tweets from the last 10 hours. So it's just, it's just, it reads like, I fell asleep and woke up, and now I live in a Japanese RPG, where I don't understand anything. Yeah, I mean, and hey, two Japanese wrestlers got big wins, so that's highly appropriate. Well, you know, next year, WrestleMania is in East Rutherford, New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:06:43 I'm not, I'm not going. Yeah, we got to take you. Listen, folks out there, if you want Ryan to come to wrestle, mania give me a hell yeah by me i mean him on twitter via a stone cold gif just say it just say it just say what hell yeah hell yeah yeah fine hell yeah yeah yeah we're gonna do it so yeah i i sympathize with you because i woke up this morning and it was actually the one time that i enjoyed twitter's lack of uh chronology because just like all of this is great. None of this makes any sense whatsoever. I love it. It's better than what I usually wake up to on my phone at least. See, that's the point of wrestling. It's better than whatever real life was belching out at that moment.
Starting point is 00:07:39 It's true for the most part. It really is. So last night we watched WrestleMania, and you should know this. This is all you need to know. We're just giving you the uptake. If you're like, how man, how am I ever going to get it? into the fineries and eccentricities of modern wrestling let us help you first of all you need to find something you don't like and then you need to complain about it we'll give you things to complain about okay one it was too long right that's always the complaint right that's the that's the complaint until that's the complaint as soon as the guy you don't want to win the main event wins the main event up until then it's like oh man i could go all night and then as soon as like you know last night it was brock lesner's turn to be the guy everyone hates and then as soon as he was a disovent was 30 minutes too long oh why because of the 30 minutes
Starting point is 00:08:31 brock lesnar spent winning because of the 30 minutes you get rid of yeah that's it they're like that that and this uh vince screwed it up that's another thing you can say yeah right vince is your shorthand for every problem just just the word events yeah really like it's yeah really McMahon, McMahon screwed this up. Only McMahon could take this much talent and screw it up. Now, never mind all of the major entertainments that you have watched in your life that have been, that are like 60% good, right? And I'm talking to anyone who watched True Blood.
Starting point is 00:09:05 No, it's like you and Holly are the only people who did. No, Luke Zimmerman also watched it. I watched a season of it. Yeah. And you know what? You know what? That's all Vince's fault. All Vince's fault.
Starting point is 00:09:18 all that talent. And what did Vince do? He way overbooked the one vampire or whatever. Because you know, like CEOs really, I mean, we're not saying CEOs are not to blame for the woes of America, right? Because they are. All terrible humans, except for Jim Bankoff, obviously, the same. Well, and with me, I promise you, I promise you, he's not listening. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:09:44 That's fine. He's got spies everywhere. You never know. He's got spies everywhere. I mean, like, with most CEOs, it's like, okay, they, you know, they're steering this huge corporation, probably doing it to make shareholders rich at the expense of actual humans and all that stuff. But with McMahon, it's like 10 levels beyond that because he's like also the head of research and development. And also the head of all creative.
Starting point is 00:10:10 And like, he's literally in charge of everything. Is WWE the closest thing we have to Hydra? It is pretty slow. It's either that or the Yeti Corporation. I'm trying to figure out, like, one of the two. It pretty much is like Cobra Command if it was self-aware that it was Cobra Command, you know, because like the McMahon family, all of them except for Shane, the son, all of them, their character is to play, I'm an evil person in charge.
Starting point is 00:10:41 They just really lean into it, whereas Shane, his job is just to jump off stuff. I hope that there's like another McMahon child out there who's just like, Like, yeah, I just went to art school. Um, yeah. My name's Brian. Hey, what's up? We went to art school at ECU, the ECU art school. Yeah, it's a legacy admission.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Where you draw like pictures of pirates in your notebook. Had like a one point. It's like, you know, I really want to see you try something other than drawing a pirate. Hey, look at this. It's the Mona Lisa, but she's a pirate. She's a pirate. You're the Picasso of pirate art. All your pirates have fucked up faces.
Starting point is 00:11:18 my cubist pirate face god what were we actually doing on this show i asked that every week and i never know well we were going to hit the randomizer however however a brief flirtation with uh what do you call this form of content where you say it's this thing is like this shit posting it's shit posting shit posting it's shit posting it's an extended simile and it's the sort of thing that um once you start doing it you really can't stop well this is one of those things one of those things that when i was writing a lot at every day should be saturday it felt like every six months you and i would have an idea spencer where it'd be like didn't we do this four times before and most of the time the answer was yes but it was like but let's just do it again yeah when we did the um the video version
Starting point is 00:12:14 of this podcast literally every week was just like let's pick one theme and then let's name 20 different parts of that thing as which college football coach they are it's it's just a well we go back to a lot it's true although we get mad at the listeners when they try to have us do it but most because we don't like your suggestions we don't want to say which soda is every college football coach i didn't i didn't say that because they don't drink soda all right it was it was Ryan and he needs to get some wrestling in his system and then he'll be more receptive to the people. He really does.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Honestly, the WWE universe needs to take over booking for Ryan. I do feel like unlike most sort of, you know, elective outrages, which is, you know, that passes hobbies. I feel like wrestling's like got a really healthy sort of like relationship with anger.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Because again, you can just blame Vince. Or someone, like even if, you know, you don't like a guy, you're like, oh man, that villain's so fake he makes me so mad i hate that guy you're like well yeah he's fake here's the thing i feel like it's um i feel like it's deciding to you know get into harry potter or something now not not in like a these are the same thing sense but just in like oh man i feel like there's a lot of catching up i would have to do and a lot of background no i can just i could in theory just jump in see the way to jump in is just to dive into rassel mania because every matter
Starting point is 00:13:42 is going to have a three-minute vignette before it, explaining who these people are and why they hate each other and all that. They catch you up. Also, if you don't know, characterization in wrestling, it's very obvious who's supposed to be who. Fairy. Who's that guy with like the long leather overcoat
Starting point is 00:14:01 and the cowboy hat and they're playing like death music and shit? You're like, yeah, that's The Undertaker. He's undead. Okay, I'm going to tell you this. If that's enough for you, wrestling, you're good. You're fine. If you're the kind of person who goes, well, how did he come back? Dead people don't really come back.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Nope, you're in the wrong place. Turn around, leave. Yeah, if you're a sort of person who wants, like, narrative cohesion and, like, these guys said two months ago, they wanted to murder each other, and now they're getting married in the middle of the ring, then wrestling might not be for you because things just change quickly. Yeah, you have to actually, as a core concept of the art, you have to accept. that for no reason whatsoever, somebody will just decide to be bad. This is very... They'll just decide to be bad.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Everything you're saying is to me, and this is also an area I'm not familiar with, and I'm going to regret saying that, this feels exactly like the Fast and the Furious franchise. Dude, very comparable. Okay. Also comparable in that, you might watch like 10 hours of it
Starting point is 00:15:05 before it gets really good. That's another commonality that we have here with the Fast and Furious franchise and that unless we're counting you know like there's Tokyo drift which I know some people ride really hard for but generally it's accepted it didn't sort of hit its like you know hits peak until you know five right and that could very very well be the case with you in wrestling you could just be like oh man listen I am not feeling this at all and then suddenly after watching like 20 hours of it you'll just go like
Starting point is 00:15:36 how did I ever live without this I hear what you're saying but I'm also really into just going to bed early so there's your problem you're missing out on all this culture yeah that's what my granddad is wrestling he called it culture and that was ingrained to me from the very beginning so now I will I will point
Starting point is 00:15:53 I will point this out too about wrestling you go oh man I should catch up there's you know like it seems like I missed a lot there is a lot and none of it means anything it's a lot it's a lot like when people go oh man like college football how do I
Starting point is 00:16:10 decided to root for him like i don't know start watching look for the guy with the coolest song i mean it's like you don't go to like a restaurant and think like oh i have 30 years to catch up on you just order something you know it depends if it's the perkins where tiger was hanging out i do want to get some never mind um yeah well they'll be newspapers up they'll have newspaper clippings up on the wall for you to enjoy and it has matt suit here you go That's another thing wrestling does, though the WWE is a billion-dollar corporation and will happily tell you that it is. They always, as Jason pointed out to me last night, they always include clips from legitimate or semi-legitimate news organizations as if they were insecure and needed bolstering. Like, oh, look, the New Orleans Times Picayune.
Starting point is 00:16:59 They mentioned WrestleMania this week. Look at our little company on the come-up. When they announced Rousey was joining, it was like, hey, look, did you see this? Fox News. Saw that we hired Rhonda Rousey. Pretty big, pretty big, huh? They're a pretty big deal, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Guess that means we are, too. Huh? Subscribe. Like, they're pushing a YouTube channel. If you like Roman Raines bleeding from the face, be sure to give us a like and a thumbs up. Yeah, that's it. Which, you know, no one actually likes Roman Raines doing anything.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Yeah, not even bleeding. Not even losing. They didn't like that. Not even losing. like he's losing and bleeding and people are booing last night like dude has taken the ass beating that's supposed to make him you know like take him over like push him get him over make him something great and people are like
Starting point is 00:17:53 you suck we're so sick of roman rains being pushed Vince's golden boy he is literally bleeding from the face like after being thrown onto his heads 11 times yeah yeah so I mean I mean, it's, honestly, it's kind of like being a Florida Gators fan. It is a lot. There are really great moments. I'm out.
Starting point is 00:18:16 And then everything kind of sucks. And either way, you complain about everything. Let's do the thing we're here to do and not talk about Florida. Thanks. Oh, we'll get to Florida. Shit. Yeah, we'll get there sooner later. Just introduce the concept.
Starting point is 00:18:32 So, to, you should know, by the way, that's Georgia Tech's own, Roman Raines. Correct. Former defensive linemen? for the Georgia Tech Hill O'I, I believe is how you say it. Yes, Joe Anowai, the cousin of former Miami Hurricanes, Lionman, Dwayne Johnson. Nothing but ACCC Legends. Oh, and no, don't forget Titus O'Neill,
Starting point is 00:18:56 Titus O'Neill, who is a Florida gator as well, better known as Thaddeus Bullard when he played for the Florida Gators. And the most Georgia man on the planet, A.J. Stiles. Oh, yeah, I can't wait for Ryan. me, AJ Stiles. Let me tell you how, we'll talk about how Georgia he is, and then we will get to the main event tonight, where we do discuss which rappers are, in fact, correlate most closely in terms of identity, in terms of substance style or production to your school.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Maybe not your school, because, like, Baylor came up and I was like, Baylor doesn't deserve it. Pass, skip, next. Yeah, there are a few. There are few on here. We just, like, unanimously decide. I mean, let's show you the production path here. First of all, this is some of the most prep we've ever done for an episode, because Spencer made a Google Doc. Spencer never makes a Google Doc.
Starting point is 00:19:55 This wasn't even somebody asked Spencer to make a Google Doc. What happened to this? Spencer, how did you find Google Docs? Did you Google it? No, no, I actually, I use them all the time. It's just I don't use them for the full cast. What are you using for? I use him for writing.
Starting point is 00:20:13 All things considered, his other podcast. Yeah, that's true. Have you heard that? I'm actually, I work on wait, wait, don't tell me. No, don't say that. I'm not that Caucasian, sir. So Spencer made a Google Doc into which he put every FBS team, right? You didn't take anybody out altogether.
Starting point is 00:20:39 No, I have every FBS team. And then, and then we each put the rapper that we think, rapper or rap group, because we sort of, you know, we didn't stick exactly to that. Right. For, I don't know, probably we've covered 70 schools on here total, maybe 80. I think so. Yeah, I mean, we definitely, we've at least given it a fair shot. And Jason did the bulk of the work by far.
Starting point is 00:21:06 although as soon as soon as we propose this as a topic which i think came about via spencer was making jokes on twitter or whatever like once i looked up today and realized we had to talk about this it was like my brain just froze for like four hours like i was like i can't think about anything else this is so i'll be i'll be happy when this episode's done you did you did great work. Although Spencer was the only one to put entries for Colorado and Colorado State, Spencer, do you want to reveal those? And that's how we'll get this started. Mm-hmm. Yep, yep. Just to start, Colorado, say, last time they were good, like maybe early 90s, right? Consistently good. Let's see, real white. And, yeah, Mark Wahlberg.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Mark Wahlberg. Colorado State, you're Donnie Wahlberg. You know why? You really sort of only paired with Mark Wahlberg ever. So congratulations. That's that's our first one off to a bang mentioning two men who are probably now in their mid-50s. We did it. We did it. Perhaps most important contributors. I want to, all right, so I want to start with Nebraska because we put, I think, three fairly different answers here. And I want to explore why we got there. Jason, let's start with you. You said Nebraska's rap map. is Lauren Hill. Nebraska's Lauren Hill because pretty amazing in the mid-90s have not been heard from since. Okay. That's a good comparison. Also, not very good live.
Starting point is 00:22:47 I think we all have good answers here, by the way. Yeah, I put Rakim for similar-ish reasons and partially because it's like when they were on, man Nebraska was on, could it work now in today's world? Probably not. Does Raqqqam still put out albums? Surprisingly, yes. That's still a thing. He's still an active artist.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Do we just want to hear that like three album string? Yeah, pretty much. We can just play the hits and everybody's going to be cool with it. I got you. Okay. Jason? Yeah, you did trip out for a second. Okay, sorry about that.
Starting point is 00:23:37 So pick up, where'd you leave? You can just pick up with whatever you want to say about either Nebraska or another school. Nebraska, I have Ice Cube because if you come back to me to 1991-2, not a battered man on the planet than Ice Cube. Like, death certificate, that's Ice Cube. Oh, man, Ice Cube. Like, now Nebraska's got this reputation, right? Like, oh, nicest fans in football, they're so nice. They're so cuddly.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Yeah, yeah, they're cuddly. Just like Ice Cube making movies about, you know, dads out fishing, doing Pratt falls, right? Like, that's, Ice Cube makes movies with Pratt falls in the man. Yeah, Nebraska to the Big Ten is Ice Cube to movies. Like, those moves were both like, hey, this is going to be good for us and, like, expose us to a bigger audience and we'll make more money. And it's like, oh, how come everybody's laughing?
Starting point is 00:24:28 God damn it. That's right. That's right. And if you go back and listen to like America's Most Wanted or Death Certificate, you're like, what happened? How? You're like, oh, he just does, he does, he's in the wrong venue now, wrong venue and, you know, just not about that life anymore. He just got old. Do we want to go, like, alphabetical for the other ones?
Starting point is 00:24:51 Sure. I want to, just for ease of tracking. Yeah, that's fine. I had a couple, I had a couple I wanted to hit. just to show like how hard this could be okay okay because all right Auburn I was flummoxed by Auburn right completely you were not um well I just picked a direction and so I went with Kanye for Auburn because I think you need somebody who has achieved great things as Auburn has I think you need somebody who always has a chip on his shoulder which Auburn does I think you need
Starting point is 00:25:26 somebody who kind of has that like reinvention thing where it's like now and this now and that now on this other thing now on this other thing altogether like that sort of part of the auburn identity um and sort of the intensely divisive like to me it also works very well with cam newton specifically because like nobody's just like yeah i think cam newton's fine people are either like oh cam newton's a transcendent football player like cam new cam newton smiles too much cam new cam newton doesn't appreciate what he's been given because he keeps getting in car accidents and i think that's coming i mean same if we're being on but yeah so speaking of the word flummoxed that spencer used that was sort of the basis for my pick here um Auburn from year to year
Starting point is 00:26:16 it is and i think you could crunch the numbers and find that Auburn is the hardest team predict from year to year you think if they're number one in the country they're finishing unranked if they're unranked they're winning the national title and so forth um so for that i went with young thug the um you just never know what noise this young man is going to make next um will it be will it be will it be will he sound like david bowie out of nowhere there's a song where he does that will he go valley girl out of nowhere will he be you know will he be will he be will he be wearing a wedding dress probably I do like the Kanye pick for another
Starting point is 00:26:52 reason because like with Auburn you need this vaguely religious element at all time you need like some heavy spiritualism and I feel like the Kanye theme song for Auburn would probably be family business which is a song about you know yeah some some stuff happens if you're not in the family you don't need to know about it
Starting point is 00:27:12 which again that sums up all the whole 2010 season Yeah, I like that, too, because there is some hit or miss, too, right? Like, sometimes, sometimes you get, uh, sometimes you get 808s and then sometimes you get graduation, you know, although graduation happens less at Auburn then. Well, I would say 808s is better than graduation. Oh, oh, that's an extremely spicy thing. See, see, see, Auburn is divisive.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I think both of yours are better than my attempted guess. My guest was going to be ghost face. And here's why. Because the eagle on the arm. He does have an eagle. Right? Okay. Yeah. So, again, literal war eagle.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Right. He has an eagle on his arm, but his name is not eagle face. So that also fits. Also, remember, Auburn has multiple names, right? They're the tigers. They have an eagle, and they're also referred to as the plainsman, which fits with, like, you know, pretty tone and ghost face and Iron Man or what have you. Whatever ghost face alias you want to work with, right? You can get that, right? Ghostface has diabetes.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Say no more. Just going to leave it right there. Ghostface got the sugar. Okay. Let's flip to the other side. Spencer, you can start with Alabama. Yeah, I chose Drake. And this is the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:28:54 I had a tweet where I was like, listen, Alabama boars a crap out of me and they're good and really, really good. And you know who's really, really good and well produced and probably as much a product of his money as anything? And like the people around him, Drake. Drake's a process. I don't have to like it. I just have to admit that dude's got beats. he's got beats and though he bores me what he does is very very effective so i chose the current the current mopey trust issue laden boring king of rap drake as the analog to
Starting point is 00:29:32 the current boring Alabama has trust issues absolutely um so i went with snoop but just because there is no escaping like snoop is everywhere at this point doesn't matter you know, oh, what is he done musically? Eh, who cares? Like, it's, as much as you're focused on Ice Cube and sort of his move through history into family film, Snoops is even more confusing. The fact that Snoop was this thing and is now just, hey, hanging out with Martha Stewart, got some sort of gambling show on TBS, can do pretty much whatever I want.
Starting point is 00:30:13 We'll never, will never leave public comment. consciousness for any reason whatsoever am like have gone from death row records to like mom thinks i'm fun snoop is forever and cannot be killed and no matter how you feel about it just he is the inevitability at this point i like both those i like snoop because the timeline lines up really well uh title in 92 or 93 some pretty lean years and then just constant endless saturation of all media um and i like drait because not only is it um ubiquity it's this constantly evolving like the hive consuming all other genres is like nick sabin adapting to the spread offense and hiring every coach he defeats and on all that um i went with megos here just because every alabama
Starting point is 00:31:06 game it's going to be the same as the one before it which means it's going to be extremely high quality enjoyable if you're if you if you already subscribe to it um right but there will not be very much variation and listen if you're 23 years old and you don't like what i just said you can go you can go and look people have showed that they literally they're doing the same song over and over i like me goes so don't yell me about it yeah no it's fine it's fine all right let's go let's go down the list of jason's funniest pick for app state Appalachian State is a mortal technique for two reasons
Starting point is 00:31:41 one being you know Appalachian State because they beat someone up who is very famous Spencer who was that he beat up Lynn Manuel Miranda which I'll tell you that would Lynn Manuel Miranda
Starting point is 00:31:57 who is the guy who he he did the first ever ever a musical about politics ever definitely like schoolhouse rock came after hamilton stripped it off and is there a more university of michigan musical than hamilton no no reader there there there is lay mis is definitely more michigan but it's fine because all right fine i have to do this now Because Le Miz is all about, like, a person with money and power insisting that, like, no, I am a commoner.
Starting point is 00:32:36 No, I connect to, oh. Plus he gets his yellow ticket and leave. And also, there's a guy who's constantly looking for somebody doing very minor petty crimes so he can, like, kill him for it. Also, no, like, no more than dollars to a student athlete in French. Yeah. Where is your evidence, son? The other thing with Mortal Technique is, like Appalachian State, if you go on Reddit and you say, like, I don't like the mainstream stuff, somebody will pop up and say, oh, yeah, name an Immortal Technique album. They'll do that with Appalachian State, too.
Starting point is 00:33:17 If you say, like, yeah, like, I know like 20 college football teams, they'll get real underground on you. They'll try to hit you with Appalachian State. Every single Redditor loves these two things. God, I thought somehow this was going to involve George Bush knocked down the towers, but... He knocked, yeah. Also, if you're in Boone, North Carolina, if you're in Boone, North Carolina, you probably have some pretty extreme opinions about the government, as does our family will take me. Perfect. All right, Jason, you get to keep picking because you've done most of these.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Next up is Arizona State is Riff Raff. I don't think I have to go too deep on the connections there. Riff Raff, just Google him. Just look at one photo of him and you'll see him, correct. Riff Ruff might have tenure at Arizona State. Yeah, he leads our physics department. I kind of wanted to put stitches here. That's a good choice, too.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Stitches who, the one line of his I remember is, I love selling blow! The man with an AK. tattooed on his face. Yeah, that's him, that's him who did, uh, brick in your face. Yeah. Yeah. Like, like, he was cartoonishly, like, cartoonishly, like, anarchic, right?
Starting point is 00:34:39 Like, nobody, like, stitches, stitches was like, other people were like, I like selling Coke. He was like, I am cocaine. Yeah. I have become cocaine. Um, Arkansas State, let's go with either yellow wolf or Bubba Spark, because I'm quite certain they have both spent time in deer stands. Um, let's see. Next week at Boise State, Spencer, you had an interesting one here. I do, I do.
Starting point is 00:35:10 My, my pick for Boise was Bun B, and this is why, because, one, 2007 was a massive year, like a coming out party for Bun B. Because finally getting the due that, uh, he was, you know, long, long owed for, uh, like IPA and for a bunch of stuff, right? 2007, big year for Boise State. Also, because Boise State, long before 2007, if you're familiar, working the underground, working that long trajectory upward out of, you know, FCS into FBS through various conferences, rising up to prominence. And finally, the capping win.
Starting point is 00:35:54 And then since then, Boise State, yeah, they've been good, man. they've been good they've been great they've just been chilling hanging out posting picks with the the wife on vacation on Instagram
Starting point is 00:36:05 just living that good life you know Jason your answer was very different I like I like the game here for two reasons one he'll fight you there's video evidence
Starting point is 00:36:16 that the game will fight you he's like 6-6 or something so don't fight him but he will fight you and Boise State famously will play anybody anywhere and probably beat you. They're not 6-6.
Starting point is 00:36:29 They're like 6-1. And also the game is known for being the world's greatest name dropper. And if you're a Boise State fan, you know, yeah, well, we beat Oklahoma. We beat Georgia. We'd be Virginia Tech. We didn't beat Nevada that one time, but we beat them all the other times. See, that's what... If you're a Boise State fan, you're basing everything you are on other universities, which is what you got to do at that level.
Starting point is 00:36:53 That's what... See, that's where I thought you were going was the Nevada thing. because for Boise State, that is sort of like the tarnish to all of it. Yeah, beat Oklahoma, all these great sort of signature seasons and wins and et cetera. But in the same way that once everybody found out, the game had been on like a dating show and been rejected on the dating show, it kind of colored everything from that point out. We were like, oh, oh, you're just like us, you tall dipshit. Yeah, and it was the kind of thing, Rick Ross could have survived.
Starting point is 00:37:25 But if you ain't, Rick Ross, then nope. And he's not. Yeah, also the game can't beat everyone on the internet up. He can't. He can try. He probably will. We'll see how far he can get. Can I go to Boston?
Starting point is 00:37:41 Can I go to Boston College? Would Jason and I decline the answer? But Ryan has a stunning, random choice that I don't even want him to defend. But what did you say Boston College was for rapper? Boston College is cool, Leo. I'm not going to explain it. I just want you to think on it. Don't.
Starting point is 00:38:04 And that's it. Wow. I don't want you to explain a thing, son. We're moving on. Jason and I both had an answer for Cal. My answer was Murder Inc., which is cheating because that's not really a rapper or like a rap group. It's more of a label. But I picked them because, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:25 don't think about murder ink at all you are not like oh man it's you don't think of them the same way you think of cash money or the way you think of you know any any other number of record labels but they did have people that you do think like the same way that what jaw rule is to murder ink marshan lynch was or erin rogers was or to cal so it's just sort of this thing where it's Like, how did, really? And Jeff, Jeff Tedford, I think is Irv Gotti in this scenario. It kind of falls apart. But it's more a matter of like, yeah, you guys had some people that we knew.
Starting point is 00:39:04 And it really, where did it leave you? Nowhere. Also, would you be surprised if, like, Murder, Inc., there wasn't some serious, like, interstate federal crime that occurred around that Cal program? I would, I mean. Just randomly, like, oh, man, what the hell? I mean, that Jaurul Fire Festival, that's kind of like the, the structural stability of Cal's stadium over the years, right? Fuck it, let's just do it and be legends, Cal athletics, finances. Which I did love how, I mean, that was deeply fulfilling to me that after years of watching Cal just be weird on the field and have weird shit happen, right?
Starting point is 00:39:48 For Cal to actually, like, at top down, be like, yeah, man. Let's just go crazily in debt, building on a fault line. You're like, from the top down, none more cow. I think this is getting towards my pick. I went with Jaden Smith for Cal just because, man, when you're watching the Cow game, like, did you really care a lot about stuff that people tell you is important? Or are you thinking about, like, how, you know, what food tastes like in space, you know? like if you're looking at a cow game and it's like 67 to 48 and cow is hopelessly out of it
Starting point is 00:40:26 your mind is your your mind is like five planes beyond yeah you're just probably going to capitalize your cows have seven stomachs because they're actually seven people it's like whoa yeah oh let me go back and give bi yu dc talk because um they had a pretty good hit in the 80s and then after that they just changed their whole style like every two or three years um that's it for bYU sure all right um spencer give us your clemson match uh clemson was hard for me too because i just think as a program i was like okay um if i was thinking about really effective if i was thinking about like a program that didn't depend on like a sort of generational talent right um migos migos absolute machine right but but if i told you oh man it's dabbo
Starting point is 00:41:20 like dabbo is the guy who's behind it all right dabbo like yeah dabbo first of all already sounds like amigos ad lib right second definitely big with the kids right would definitely call themselves the upstate
Starting point is 00:41:36 or up north crew even though they're in a very southern place right like yeah yeah you know upstate yeah we were upstate you're like upstate South Carolina like I hear upstate and I'm like Oh, that's Buffalo. No, man.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Clemson. Yeah, they are. They're from the north of South Carolina. Which is my favorite part about Migos, you know, claiming North Atlanta is like that it's supposed to be the uncoolest place in the world. Ben, yeah, it produced Migos. Yeah, they're like, oh, yeah, come on. We're going to claim, we're going to claim, like, the Mall of Georgia.
Starting point is 00:42:14 There's a golf course near us where Migos. It's very, yeah. It's dangerous out here. I like Chance the rapper for Clemson because, again, like Auburn, you're going to need a lot of spirituality. Unlike Auburn, not quite as chaotic. And also Chance, of course, the champion of 2016. Everything's positive and vibrant and happy. You know, we're dealing with some rough topics at times, but it doesn't get all that rough.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Lots and lots and lots of guest stars. suspiciously many guest stars but it's cool it's cool everything's positive that's just recruiting yeah chance is a little bit too good at recruiting but i'm sure everything's on the up no chance chance has a strong social media game right also very important to the clemson machine now can we talk about your due cancer because i don't understand what the fuck this is dr dr dr One, not actually a real good rapper, right? Jesus. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:22 No, come on. I will stand by this. Dr. Dre is not a good rapper. He can deliver lines that are written by rappers. Someone. Dr. Dre dropped this line, okay, which is, I'll say the worst thing I can say about a line. Big Sean would say, okay? that's how bad this line is which was which was on keep your heads ringing keep their heads ringing remember he says i get plenty of ass so call me an astronaut no that's good if cool keith said that you'd love it
Starting point is 00:43:57 he ain't cool keith there's no weirdness now here's the other reason this is duke okay one dr dr dr dray like duke is insanely wealthy right you know why he's wealthy tech because he's better at something else he's way better Dr. Drey's like the greatest producer of his era all right he's phenomenal can he rap
Starting point is 00:44:22 I mean Dr. Drey's rapping's probably good to get to the pinstripe bowl and Duke's probably produced a lot of dentists who are like please call me doctor no like please
Starting point is 00:44:33 please call me doctor are you saying Coach K is the chronic I just did I did, yeah, oh, my God. Gross. I'm saying, I'm saying that, that they're way better at something else. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Right? They're way better and way richer and way happier when they're doing something else. And that, that, that's Dr. Drake. That, I, I don't, I don't, I didn't have a better answer for this, so yours will stand, but I have, I have misgivings. And it's fine, because we can talk about your ECU pick instead. Yeah, Eastern Carolina. I chose, I chose Cassidy. you know why because because all eastern carolina does online and offline is go into everything not realizing that uh it's not a battle rap right if you've ever seen cassidy who famous infamous philly battle rapper if you've ever seen him on while and out there's a great clip that you can look up on the internet where the tweet frames it as someone tell it says l m ao someone told cassidy that while and out isn't a real rap battle
Starting point is 00:45:43 and the clip has like the other person who I think is it's not Nick Cannon it's somebody else he's like he's like yeah your mom's like a banana because she's fruity and crazy you know like some extremely dumb while an outline right and and then Cassidy like walks up and goes first off you man's a bitch and everybody's like whoa whoa there's an eighth grade class we're on we're on Nickelodeon a night now, buddy. First off, the man's a bitch.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Like, that's the first thing that's, with no smile on his face whatsoever. Does he do the modern rap battle thing where it's like, here are 19 words that rhyme with Glock, including Glock. And pirate. Pirate doesn't rhyme with Glock.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Doesn't matter. Now, I didn't put this, but I do think if you're willing to just do a sort of a limited comparison, ECU is Ching. and Virginia Tech is the person that's so tired of listening to Chingi
Starting point is 00:46:47 just cannot hear Holiday one more time yeah Virginia Tech in that scenario is the person who has Chingie stuck in their head and their CD player and their car is stuck so they can listen to nothing
Starting point is 00:47:03 or they can listen to Chingy it's like Ching's brother-in-law well I guess I'm just Nellie, right? I mean, what's more repetitive than Beamer Ball, man? Right there.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Stop! Stop! I wanted to get down to I wanted to get down to Georgia. Georgia had a sort of split, and I think I know why Jason has his answer, and I think you can kind of figure out why you have my answer.
Starting point is 00:47:35 But Ryan did not tender an answer for which rapper is Georgia, which I don't blame him because I think it's a hard point. Yeah, it was a lot easier until, like, this year. So thanks a lot, Kirby Smart. I mean, mine's a one-note joke. The Sugar Hill Gang makes sense, right? 1980.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Okay, yeah. No, I like it. I mean, I'm not saying it's wrong. I like it. I said it. I got two. Herschel to the. I see the Sugar Hill Gang falling out of the sky.
Starting point is 00:48:11 That's a good. I mean, that's good. That's good. I have two chains because two chains is always like, for me, better when he goes 10 and 2. You know? Right. That's that's two chains. Two chains is always, you know, real good, consistent, funny.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Like, you know, Georgia's a funny team. They're entertaining. They've had some fantastic personalities. I believe that most people who go to Georgia would understand going to Ruth, Chris, and your pajamas. But you wouldn't want two chains out here attempting like a Kendrick album. You wouldn't want him trying to go 13. No, no, no, no. I don't want him making a masterpiece, right? Like, I want, I want Two Chains doing what Two Chains does, which is you come in as a cameo, right?
Starting point is 00:48:53 An absolutely wreck shop, right? And then we get away before we ask you to do too much. And that's, right, like, champions. That's what you want, ironically. A song ironic for Georgia in that. It's called Champion. Let's see. I got three to run through real quick, and then we'll throw it to Ryan up next.
Starting point is 00:49:15 FIU, I'm going with B-O-B, because Florida International seems like a kind of school where they teach you the Earth is flat. I mean, I don't. I'm sure it's an okay school, but they named it after a bank, so. Maybe my favorite one. I wanted to put a little weighing down for like 50 different schools here, but I limited myself to two FAU, of course, because of Weezy did once say he smokes weed and talks shit like Lane Kiffin. Georgia Tech, you're A-Sop rock because you make shit way too complicated. It doesn't have to. You don't need that many syllables, nor do you need that many numbers.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Ryan, you got Hawaii. You're holding Hawaii down solo for it. Yeah, I put Jaw Rule for Hawaii simply because it sounds weird in 2018. But there was a time when Jaw Rule was very much a big part of the modern music scene and kind of like movies and television. and like he was a very important person in entertainment. Around the same time, Hawaii was a very important part of college football.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Both of those things sound crazy now. If you told them to somebody who had no context, you'd be like, why? And our answer would be like, I don't really know. It was just a different time. And we had very bad ideas. And June Jones probably had something to do with both.
Starting point is 00:50:40 They're both a bit undersized, too. True, true. And also, both of them were pumbled by Georgia, in a sense. Because remember, Hawaii made the Sugar Bowl and then died on the field. Like, died. It was not pretty. It was one of the worst beatdowns I've ever seen in any bowl game ever. It may be the high point of the Georgia football program, actually,
Starting point is 00:51:08 because they really did lay it unquestioned, unparalleled, beat down on somebody in a public forum. Additionally, do you remember where Jarl Rul really lost his bid for any kind of long-term greatness? Do you remember? No. Jarl Rul was in the Fast and Furious franchise. Sure. He was in the first film. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:51:33 If you want to hear, if you would like to see Jarl rule scream, Mnagey! Fast and the Fast and the Furious as you hooked up. Yep. And he was going to come back for the next one. And something got in the way. A little contract negotiation didn't quite go as well as anybody would have wanted it to. And guess who took his place? Is that why this is?
Starting point is 00:51:58 That's right. No. George's own ludicrous. Wait. Speaking of. Yeah. It was technically Georgia State was the graduate, the nobody tendered, nobody tendered a guest for Georgia State, but I would want to move to Atlanta's own
Starting point is 00:52:19 because we did actually have a pretty good, vigorous discussion of Miami, which rapper would best sort of match up with Miami. You're jumping all over the place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I set up the transition to the next one alphabetically. Oh, did you? Oh, I'm sorry. I thought we were following it's yours
Starting point is 00:52:39 how did you fuck this up oh that's true sorry we'll go back I had two chain what are you talking about no next one else what actually I have no idea we're talking about Iowa oh dear God
Starting point is 00:52:56 why would we do that because you put something there I know but why would we I have ludicrous because ludicrous for Iowa because ludicrous just what does ludicrous do he's got the same like same sort of three same sort of three verses
Starting point is 00:53:13 that he does right same three verses it's all he's got it never changes them and you know who still you know who still gets work in the year 2018 ludicrous you know who still has good contracts contracts that are inexplicably good given him being ludicrous that's right the eight and five rapper himself I think this is absolutely perfect because what did ludicrous once wrap about happening during a field goal? Doing it. And who is more prone? On the 50-yard line of the Georgia Dome. Who in college football is more prone to achieve that than Kirk Farrantz?
Starting point is 00:53:53 That's right. Who would put that under erotic in the dictionary? We can do it in Kinnick while the Hawkeyes punt from their own 33. also a running theme in luda videos is oversized things just big big a big a big hair big car just cartoonishly beefy things and man kirk ferns if he gets a look and sit who is that young fellow who is that young fellow looks like he runs about 450 pounds we got to get him we got to get him up here that's true big big head Kirk farence probably saw that head in a ludicrous video and he was like is there a football player with a
Starting point is 00:54:34 head that bang but he's good fill that with a whole lot of knowledge about seven plays that's it ludicrous it's got seven plays also chicken and beer definitely Iowa compatible definitely Iowa compatible all right let's skip around a little bit here um both of you had an answer for Kansas state please explain Kansas state's a hard one because you're looking at um you're definitely looking at something that never changes, right? Something that at one point, you know, something that's good, right? You definitely know something that's competent. And you want something that, you know, surprisingly effective and consistent across time.
Starting point is 00:55:17 That's why I chose, because Bill Snyder is a legitimate coaching great. I chose Scarface. Scarface, you know, Scarface never leaving Houston, man. Never. It's not like Scarface, you know, he moved around a little bit. But Scarface, you know, he stuck to his roots, much like Bill Snyder. wasn't going anywhere also if you get a scarface album do you know what you're getting you're getting a scarface album it's not going to change you're like man maybe he's going to sort of explore a lot of new sonic territory nope nope nope guess what son you want a scarface album he made you the scarface album he made you the scarface album it's good it's great it's very effective it's never going to change i'm going to partly stay in the big 12 footprint in the city of houston as a matter of fact we've got dj screw on the track of course the man who popularized genre in with which rap moves at like a quarter speed.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Everything is very, very slow. And on this track, we're going to lay some original workers. I'm not just remixing. We're going to have John Sina spit this track. Because if you recall, when John Sina first came and did a rapper gimmick in wrestling, it was kind of bizarre because he kind of did like spoken word. And he showed that he can actually freestyle. And he actually is a platinum rapper, believe it or not.
Starting point is 00:56:31 And not the worst rapper. that's but just the the pace at which he chose to wrap in the ring was very deliberate
Starting point is 00:56:43 so we'll just lay some screw down on that we'll just take about 14 minutes to get down the field hey let's listen Houston and Kansas State
Starting point is 00:56:54 all about that perp exactly yeah that's the other thing too all about that perp so glad we're seeing signs here make a connection For Kentucky, I put iced tea, Spencer put Shaq. Jason put that time for his sons threatened to make a rap album.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Jason was just being mean. I suspect Spencer and I basically came at this from the same angle. For me, it was like, go up to somebody on the street who knows who iced tea is, show them a picture and say, what does this person do? And they'll say, he's an actor. They will never say iced tea. Like, he's not a rapper anymore. Was he at one point? Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Was he talented? Yeah, you know what? Kentucky used to have a football program that wasn't half bad. This is a long time ago. This is not what they're relevant for anymore. Ice-T is not a rapper anymore. He's an actor. Kentucky is a basketball school. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Yeah, I chose Kentucky because I chose Shaq as Kentucky because he does rap, but in reality, he makes his money a lot of other ways. You also both pick cops. which i got to say not the most kentucky pick on either one if we're being real front it's fine it's fine all right now i want to we're going to do something different here we all have dmx on this list none of them none of us put him for the same school spencer we're going to start with who do you have dmx assigned to let's see i believe i have dmx for lashu no god how can you not read The gun, I have it up again. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:58:31 No, I have them from Michigan State. There you go. Which I want to say, first of all, your answer is better. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. For DMX, I have Michigan State because DMX, if I thought about somebody who's like, would be like, the disrespect.
Starting point is 00:58:50 DMX is definitely like, definitely there, right? Somebody who wouldn't care about the score, right? DMX would be like, yeah, we'll punt. We'll beat you on a punt. the last game like that's for me that's definitely DMX okay this is why I think
Starting point is 00:59:04 LSU is a better answer than that number one liberal use of ATVs number two always goes hard no matter what the situation is always going to hit you hard is it smart is it necessary given the circumstances no number three
Starting point is 00:59:20 has impersonated a federal officer extremely LSU shit number four major tax problems also very LSU. And here's why the actual correct answer is all the way down in FCS. It is liberty.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Because DMX spends half his time screaming about killing gay people and the other half praying for forgiveness. That's on. That's also on. I don't see a wrong answer. They're all good in their own special ways. Let's talk about Miami.
Starting point is 00:59:54 We'll let Jason go first because Spencer and I agreed. So Miami is Gucci-Main, one of the most influential street rappers of all time, and it wasn't really all that appreciated among, I guess, mainstream music listeners until pretty recently, but he's your favorite rapper's rapper. He's the kind of thing that, you know, 10 long years ago, Little Wayne was. Gucci-Mane has long been in the most influential part of the country. but then he went away for a few years
Starting point is 01:00:28 things got pretty rough things got bad you didn't hear from Gucci for a way he was still cranking out albums but it wasn't quite the same and he was literally not around then he came back cleaned up he wears a collar now I think he goes to church more
Starting point is 01:00:43 he still got clout he's still the man and he still wears gold jewelry you know it's not quite the same but at least you don't have to worry about him say running into a jet ski running into a yacht on a jet ski or whatever the case may be that's a good one now we have the same one right we both chose andre three thousand we did um you tell me why you picked andre we can go from there because the most talented teams i have ever seen top to bottom
Starting point is 01:01:16 were those 2000 2001 miami hurricanes teams and the most talented rapper i've ever heard is Andre 3000 because nobody was more fluid, quick, clever, cool, interesting, talented, just mind-bogglingly talented, even when they lost so good it was disgusting. That's how good Andre 3000 was. Additionally, after 2001, 2002, started to slowly slide out of the public eye, occasionally making spectacular appearances and then immediately disappearing that that's why i chose him for my name yeah i think it's also that like there is this in the same way that maybe this is kind of cooled down for a while every it felt like every eight months people would be like oh outcast
Starting point is 01:02:08 getting back together the u was back it's that same sort of like we're trying to reach back and have this moment reemerge but the farther we get from it and listen Miami had a good year last year Miami was a good team last year are we are they ever going to be that version of the you probably not and that is not because of who they are so much as it is what's happened all around them you know Andre 3000 did a pretty interesting who did he do that interview with like GQ or something a couple months ago. And a lot of what he talked about was like, I don't know that I have the same, I don't think I could have the same place in the music scene as it exists today. And that's kind of true of Miami right now. They, you know, they can't just sort of fence in South Florida
Starting point is 01:02:57 the way they used to because things have changed. Teams recruit there that didn't use to recruit their. Coaches have moved around, you know, they don't, it's just a different world. And I think, it's healthier to sort of understand that but mega Andre stands and mega University of Miami fans will not get there and that's fine that is that is I think a compelling argument for the man I do not that now I'm sad because I'm an Andre Stan sorry let's talk about Michigan instead I put Rizza because Rizza is Riza is important. Rizim is important to hip-hop.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Rizza was, you know, a major driving force behind so many of the Wu-Tang songs that we love. But have you ever talked to somebody who's really into Rizza? It's exhausting. It's exhausting. It's just like talking to a Michigan fan. I don't care this much. I don't want to care this much. I can't.
Starting point is 01:04:12 I just don't, okay? I don't. You know that Tom Harmon really revolutionized the two-way player. I thought it was more fun when Ron Zook went to the Rose Bowl and he's ODB because he's gone now. Also, all those early Wu-Tang albums, it's based on like music and movies from a solid 25 years earlier. Yep, yep. Although I will say the least Michigan part about the entire Rizzo. tank thing is hey
Starting point is 01:04:42 do you ever think spray starch would go well with ketamine it's just a drug combo and they'd be like what also I do think I've heard of smoking a little refre I do think I do think Michigan would take a shitload of
Starting point is 01:04:56 heart in Schrelli's money given the opportunity absolutely that's just capitalism it's just capitalism your answer making a dollar your answer is more savage I suspect it's meaner
Starting point is 01:05:09 This is one of the best ones on the whole board. Nas. Nas. Okay. Because here, one. Nas is a legend and he's really, really good. And there's no doubt in that. There's none.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Like, people who will tell you that Nas sucks and Nas is bad. They're just being contrarian. Okay. He's brilliant. He's absolutely brilliant. He's also definitely not what you want to put on at parties ever. If you want the party to stop. right like you know there's always this guy like as long as this white guy usually
Starting point is 01:05:43 parties he's like yeah let's put on some radio head you know what's like like basically it doesn't have to be radio head it can just be any like really cerebral complex band yeah i'm gonna put that on that's really gonna get the party going and then like 20 minutes later something's like yeah put on amigos put on me go do you have that do you have the new me go just put it on spotify here use my long end just get this shit off nobody's dancing or happy or moving no no no this song is about alienation yeah and i know i know that's why i'm going to put on stir fry because it's about it's about making crack okay that's it'll make your ass shake that's that's what it's for okay make everybody here happy but this one's about gmo foods
Starting point is 01:06:30 yeah i know i know it's called chat that's why i'm going to put on this other mego song that's about cocaine this album's called chad henny wait wait wait I'm intrigued that's additionally not so NOS is not exactly party music like there's not one like club banger that you're going to get out of Nause okay and with Michigan football
Starting point is 01:06:56 it's not like you're going to get a club banger either they're like man what was our greatest victory you know they're like maybe it's like a 2317 win the Lloyd car era you know that's that's a good one this also work this also yeah what about the 3317 Matt. This also works really well. This works really well with
Starting point is 01:07:13 Jason's Lauren Hill, Nebraska because it's like, oh, remember when those two were great together? God, that's a long time ago. That's so real. Yeah. And, whereas Lauren Hill just sort of disappeared, Naz has been forced to spend the last
Starting point is 01:07:29 25 years chasing that time he was on top. And he kind of came close, like, agonizingly close a few times. And he failed catastrophically a few times. And he failed catastrophically a few times. And he got in a fight with a rival that he lost, no matter what they, no matter what these illiterate people tell you, he lost because the spot was good. Jay Z's spot was good.
Starting point is 01:07:54 I mean, I think this is one of the richest ones on here. No, it's been an hour on Oz's mission. Like, honestly, like, I'm about 20% of the comparison. It only gets rich. The Rich Rodriguez era, by the way, that was Nas is of Rangay. I thought that was his marriage to Calise. No, no, that's Just a lot of money
Starting point is 01:08:13 out the window It's a milkshake See? It keeps going It keeps going I can still I can get I can get way more blood out of this stone
Starting point is 01:08:28 I thought I thought I thought Brady Hoke was going to be the belly reference So Yeah It seems to be Also
Starting point is 01:08:37 Who's the rapper most likely to try and tell you that like you know the pyramids were put here by aliens and you know and all that and like well and like the aliens were like the original you know uh just some some super complicated theory about pyramids i michigan fans have those ben car no's got because this is the other thing michigan fans got facts they've got facts and they're they're almost like some of them some of them are really well researched and some of them are just truthy right see like some Pyramid thing works because where did Ben Carson go to medical school? That's right. The University of Michigan. That's true. Like somebody who's brilliant, but could also have some wildly unverified claims about how the Colorado River became the major water source for the American West, right?
Starting point is 01:09:27 Oh, man. And the obsession with like ancient cultures, that's an extremely Jim Harbaugh shit. Oh, yeah, yeah. This is all. Yeah, this is all coming together. Yeah. also by the way the most going back to the meanest part of this whole thing i love you michigan thank you for giving us so much money in our charity drive like seriously i love you you've
Starting point is 01:09:47 changed like you've like i i have a tattoo of the michigan am on not not like it's like 95% a joke 90% of joke 10% make him get make him get a nice tattoo make him make him if y'all raise a hundred thousand dollars spencer will get a expenseer will get a um which out me going for it let's do the godson cover i thought we were going to have him do the can we get the uh chorus to uchi wali put on his shoulder or something that's not a bad idea just like the actual musical instrumentation the notation for it oh yeah yeah can we just yeah do that i
Starting point is 01:10:28 i would really really like if you know if you give me a hundred if you if michigan fans help me raise a hundred grand man i'll let naus pick the tattoo and you don't know how dangerous that is. I could end up with a full headships of back piece, right? All right, let's go to Notre Dame since we all had something there. Oh, I didn't do the last, I didn't do the most vicious part.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Last thing on Michigan? I'm sorry. What did J.C. say his average was? One hot joint every 10 years? Every 10 years. Sounds about right. Yeah. Overdue.
Starting point is 01:11:05 I got one really good one to get through first. NC State, you're a master killer because whenever you ask someone to list every member of the Wu-Tang Clan, who's the last one they're going to mention, not you got. You-God at least has an identity as the worst member of the Wu-Tang Clan. That's not my opinion. That's the identity. Whereas, NC State, you don't even have that. You're just the one no one can remember that you exist.
Starting point is 01:11:28 God, God, that's harsh. That's fucking harsh. But on the other hand, you made UNC Memphis Blake. Because they're hit away. Which, which I made Rutgers, Memphis Bleak, because if, if anybody exists in the sphere of like, yep, I'm rich by association purely and only that, it's Rutgers. Can I give you another mean one here? Yeah. Which was for Rutgers, I have them as Big Sean.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Because they suck. And I don't know why anyone brought them to the party. So mean. All right. Let's talk about Notre Dame. Jason, you first. I think we all sort of had very well Spencer and I had a variation on the same idea
Starting point is 01:12:12 I went with LL Cool J because like you know that cop on TV he used to be really really good at this whole like competitive job and now he's just a TV cop and he's not anyone the character at least isn't anyone you'd really ever want to hang out with and also there's kind of an element of this for Ryan because you know LL Cool J wears sleevel shirt and licks is
Starting point is 01:12:35 lips a lot. And that sort of reminds Ryan of Notre Dame football from what I hear. I went with, I put down my Notre Dame eroticism for this. And I thought, who is a rapper that Regis Philbin can name? And the answer is Flo Rida. Floorida, live on the show today. Florida. My good buddy, Florida. Also, I could, I can absolutely see Floorida putting out. dumb ass club hit club anthem just called play like a champion today 100% oh he would do it with a little green hat and everything he would go all in he would he'd earn his money it'd be like him and neo he would dance up a sweat with just some little green pants but Spencer probably has
Starting point is 01:13:28 the best answer for this one as well well well Smith because if you fell asleep in 1988 8 who is your Who's a rapper? Unfrozen Caveman from 1988. Who's a rapper? Will Smith! He won a Grammy. Yeah, man. He's good at other things now.
Starting point is 01:13:49 Women's basketball, movies, real estate. What's the hardest thing he ever said as a rapper that parents sometimes don't understand you? You know, that's the nice thing. You can take the kids to a Notre Dame game or Will Smith. movie and it's going to be a fine time no one's you know it's you in like some will smith movies you'll end up crying it's also good it also works because you know everybody's like will smith such a like squeaky clean all-american blah blah blah totally ignoring the fact that the only reason he had a television show in the first place was because he had to why to pay off
Starting point is 01:14:27 the massive tax debt he owed everybody who loves fresh prince of bell air yes that is the original oh shit i did not pay any of my taxes yeah and thus ended up crazily wealthy off of it which again if you know a lot of notre dame graduates this is another pattern it's fine it's fine um for ohio state i have 50 cent and that really is just um the workout obsession that's it and also the like maybe i own bitcoin but i don't even know that part i think fits pretty well yeah or even being talking about Bitcoin a lot, right? Like, yeah. Yeah, bro.
Starting point is 01:15:06 I think the whole motif is talking about Bitcoin at the gym. Yeah. Well, like, I wanted to choose. And I also bragging about getting shot. Also, that. I wanted to choose somebody who was very successful at what they did, but still didn't get a whole lot of credit, probably because of attitude and also because of attitude, right? And it was, is maligned.
Starting point is 01:15:32 and has a certain demographic. That's why I chose Kid Rock for Ohio State. Jesus. Love it. Because I don't think there is a more universal Ohio State fan move than the moment in life where they go from listening to a certain kind of hip-hop to becoming a sort of light country artist with Trumpian leanings. That to me, that's definitely pure Ohio State there.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Well, yeah, it also works because asshole Michigan is Ohio State. so it all fits that's true that's amazing I got another lightning around and then we'll actually be making really good progress we'll actually be almost done with this folks Oklahoma your master P because you just hire all your children and cousins and all that for your coaching staff Ole Miss you're like a 32 year old real estate lawyer
Starting point is 01:16:24 Googling the coolest rappers right now that's the actual text you're typing in coolest rappers right now because you're making a recruiting edit um organ you're asap rocky because most people know you for the fashion stuff but you're actually pretty good at this he's actually a pretty good rapper once you get you know a lot is made of the clothes he wears pit your cannabis because though cannabis took an incredible number of losses in his career and had massive flops and disappointments all over the place you you still don't want to challenge him yeah this is this is perfect because it's like Who can ruin my day, and it somehow won't make his better?
Starting point is 01:17:04 This is the rapper. Yeah, like, among all the rappers you could lose to, if you're an above replacement level rapper, who's the last one you'd want to lose to? It's probably the guy with, like, the 0 and 9 record. Yeah. But for Stanford, for Stanford, I put common. In a turtleneck. He went artsy one time and nobody liked it.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Yeah. I'm going to have stereo lab on the track. Yeah, that's cool. That's cool. Can you just... It's mostly because if you ask somebody, who's your favorite rapper and who's your favorite football team? And they said common and they said Stanford. In each circumstance, you're giving them the exact same look,
Starting point is 01:17:51 which is like, what? Did you just say common? Did you just say Stanford? So you're the one. yeah how many how many stanford fans are there there's one and he's also the only common fan in the year 2018 i mean you could be a common it's tie will again favorite than things then things took a weird turn right right you like inspirational ted talks okay so this next one is really fun we're all over the place yeah my this is the only one my wife demanded to know the answers before the show uh Tennessee
Starting point is 01:18:28 We will let... This gets bleak. Let's let Spencer go first. Nelly! Tennessee's 100% Nelly. Okay. Why? Well, kind of fell off after 2006, 2007, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:47 Right? Kind of... Kind of country. Kind of country. Mm-hmm. You know? And definitely, definitely about, like, weird uniform changes there's a lot of really weird uniform changes that happen in nelly so so yeah
Starting point is 01:19:04 and then just spent the rest of the time like kind of being obscure and bowling that's what this that's what i know nellie's been up to so hey this this works specifically well if nellie is uh phil filmer and every coach since then is the st lunatics descendants thereof um i put white clef mask. Yep. I put Wyclef because, yes, there was, there was again a time where it's like, yep, this person was, you know, on the top of the charts. Wyclef was so big that he got the rock onto one of his albums.
Starting point is 01:19:43 That seems totally absurd now. And now, when we talk about Tennessee and Wyclef, it's usually like, all right, we've talked about the Tennessee coaching. ad nauseum on this program but if you haven't heard about it and you don't want to go back and listen just google why clef shirtless motorcycle and that sort of explains the whole thing that was that was the shirtless motorcycle no no you're you're underselling this it's a bit more than shirtless okay sorry shirtless speedo motorcycle it's it's him i think he's like turning 43 or something right Yes, yes. And talking about it specifically, it's that moment where you're just like, oh, God, why did you think this was? Who do you think you are at this point? It's him and he's kind of oiled up. Like, he's obviously in his driveway and dude is straight oiled up. Like, I mean, there is baby oil, baby oil. He is wet. He is as wet as a wrestler.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Okay. I think driveway is my favorite detail here. You know, he's totally in his driveway on like a ducati, right? Like on some kind of. Some kind of, like, very loud, like, whiny bike racing motorcycle. Not driving it. Just posing. Just posing. Just parked. And now I got to admit, in all of this, the thing is, why Clef Schaunt is an incredible shape.
Starting point is 01:21:14 He's a better shape than I ever will be. And how awkward is the photo that I have to say this after going, my God, what were you thinking? I think the incredible shape, that's where the metaphor sort of breaks down. We're talking about Tennessee volunteers. damn it um i went with m and m and m here and we're all kind of making the same joke um em and m of course amazing in the late 90s um and then we're pretty rapidly decreasing returns after that at his peak the one of the most purely talented um that you could possibly be but still never really strung it together for an entire year doesn't have a classic album at me if you disagree in the year
Starting point is 01:21:55 2018 i don't believe you will um and ever since then it's been you know a cycle of comebacks and just shambling embarrassments um some rehab but that happens and uh plus the defining like the defining emotional status of an m&m song is the exact same of uh a tennessee volunteers football season and that's self abuse and hatred yeah you're going to need a lot of pills It's Tennessee, so you'll have them. I was going to say it's actually, there's actually two M&M songs, and one is the beginning of the season, which is like, here we go. It's about to happen.
Starting point is 01:22:35 Right, right. It's about to happen. And then it happens, and it's, I hate myself. I want to kill someone. I hate you, Mom. You did this to me. Yeah, every-tennessee, every signing day is like the M&M song. Like, we're going up this is our anthem.
Starting point is 01:22:53 And follow me. you a victory you know we're like emm and m tries to sing and then after that it's like dear stan i thought you come with me to neland dear lane let's move along to texas because again we're on the same wavelength um this we have the different we have different names i went with puff daddy because hey you had a lot of hits more than a decade ago um nonsense then you're still very rich the money still rolling in and you probably you probably killed some people you're close to in order to break up a soon to be
Starting point is 01:23:31 unprofitable situation. I didn't say that. I don't know who said that. Yeah. And Spencer and I both put Jay-Z. Yeah, because Texas is rich. That's it. That's the whole, yep, that's it.
Starting point is 01:23:46 And then you both put the same answer for Texas. This was the easiest one on the entire board. A&M, you're the insane clown posse, and I mean, it's just too perfect. I mean, I said that, and A&M fans hearing that, you're like smiling because you're like, yeah, we are. Yep, that's us. Yeah, there's just not even going to fight it, bro. Not even going to, not even going to tussle with you on it. That's right.
Starting point is 01:24:12 They both go whoop. They both, um, is it, let's see. They're both big and together. Yeah. It's huge of the gathering. read man they're both like a quasi military there's a uniform to be a fan
Starting point is 01:24:28 there's secret hand gestures there's songs about like um dismembring things yeah yeah they're both they are um they do wear special like overalls right and have special
Starting point is 01:24:44 beverage of overalls lots of overalls and beverages right I'm just going to say this I'm not totally familiar with the juggle thing, but I'm just going to go ahead and put it out there. I bet they worship a dog, too. I'm just going to say that. There's, there's no way Ryan Tanna Hill knows how magnets work. None.
Starting point is 01:25:06 Okay, let's go to Texas Tech, which is where Jason put Nellie, which seems wildly. I mean, I wish Texas, I think Texas Tech wishes they had anything approaching Nellie's heights, but please explain. Guess how many rappers? have two albums in the top 20 highest selling albums ever. The highest selling rap albums ever. Oh, Jesus. You got, you got, Tupac, you got M&M, you got Nellie.
Starting point is 01:25:38 That's a lot of big numbers that Nellie has produced in his career, just racking up lots and lots and lots of stats. And what's he got to show for it? What's the lasting memory? Hot in here, that's a classic. Beating Texas in 2008, that's a classic. Other than that, kind of just a lot of big old numbers.
Starting point is 01:25:59 A lot of big numbers with lots of commas in them. That's it. Okay. I'm very persuaded by this. I went with MOP because when you, if you, somebody said like, hey, what's your favorite MOP song? What's the answer?
Starting point is 01:26:14 Annie up. Okay, yep, that's the only thing anybody ever. Like, MOP is essentially a one. hit wonder but the one hit bangs and Texas Tech like the whole oh we're trying to find defense and become a bounce like no just just do anteup is 88 points just do that just do any up every game and it's fine that's all we ask of you you don't have to be greater than that I wanted to get to I wanted to get to Wisconsin because we all have three different answers here too so in the interest of time. I wanted to just address these because I think we all have good answers on this
Starting point is 01:26:54 one. Okay. You want to start? Yeah. Push a T. All right. Because Wisconsin and Push a T both consistently great by doing the exact same thing every single time. What is Wisconsin going to do? They're going to run the ball. They're going to run the ball. They're going to keep running the ball. You know what Push your T's version of the ball is? Rapping about Coke. That's it. He's just going to wrap about Coke and how awesome is life-moving Coke is. That's it. You're going to be little diversions from it. Every now and then, that's a play action, okay?
Starting point is 01:27:28 You got to do that to keep the defense honest. Otherwise, you know what you're getting with push a tea in Wisconsin? Move and wait. That's it. Passing is how you become more famous than rich. Yeah, that's it. And design of things that I misspell. That's Wisconsin, right?
Starting point is 01:27:44 Move and wait. What's push a tea about? Move and wait. Same thing, man. Yeah, I put, I put Big Boy just for the longevity sort of like, what's, what's a bad Wisconsin season look like? It's hard to, it's hard to eat. We're going like eight and five and winning the Big Ten West somehow. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:28:03 Like that's sort of like the level of consistency we've gotten from Big Boy throughout his career at this point. I went with designer, designer with two eyes, because what was he famous for? Taking Future's entire style and making a hit song out of it. How did Wisconsin come to be? They said, it's just be Nebraska. And it worked. So since we're trying to wrap up, do we want to just lightning around everything we had left,
Starting point is 01:28:27 like one by one? Just tell us if there's like a couple that you would like us to pay attention to. I wanted to do UCLA because like Donald Glover, they're better at other things. I went with Lil Kim because if I see UCLA football in the news, I'm like, oh no, what is? Did it finally? Did it finally die?
Starting point is 01:28:50 Oh, no. Dear. To stay in the Pact 12, I also put Bow Wow for Utah because when you were little, it was fun. And then you moved on up and, well, transitions are hard. I have Jay Cole for Washington because no features, none. Ten wins, no features. That's Washington. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:29:17 all right so can we talk about your can we talk about your wazoo pick first jason oh me little john yeah because he's turned up just because you watch you watch a watch a wazoo game folks gonna be you know pounding fireball in the stands that'll happen at the little john show you know so good good or bad it's it's always just a lot of stuff happening
Starting point is 01:29:38 um spencer and i kind of had the same one for you cf i put just every sound cloud rapper who has a face tat and kind of went oh and 12 two years ago and like it's constantly talking about yeah i don't even like tupac you know and like has a name like x xx tentation and like this the craziest like seo shit you've ever seen and spencer was more specific and went with a little pump from among that genre yeah yeah i don't have to explain why why is ucf little pump if you got to ask you never good enough i mean face of ucf your little bit it's it's a good thing He had a hit song.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Everybody liked it. Let's see. So I got Lil B is the Mac, who is a rapper that everyone pretends to really like. I think that you have Little B for the whole conference. The whole conference. You're just a little B. Because like if you're online,
Starting point is 01:30:31 little B follows you and you like Little B. You never heard any of his music. You've never watched a Mac game. So I'm just, it's okay to admit it. This isn't podcast. I ain't played nobody. You can admit you don't actually watch Mac football.
Starting point is 01:30:42 Toledo, you're the digital underground because at one point you employed the greatest ever. You didn't stick around very long. long, though. Sticking on the Tupac train. UAB, you're McAvelli because you came
Starting point is 01:30:51 back from the bit. Yukon is Cage, a white rapper who raps about PCP abuse and horrible weather. Accurate. For USC, I have
Starting point is 01:31:04 Dizzy Rascal, who is allegedly the best in a different country I've never been to. California, Pact 12. No one's ever been there. It's true.
Starting point is 01:31:13 And West Virginia, Killer Mike. It's a guy with a gun. Real likes his gun.

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