ShutdownFullcast2.3
00:00And welcome, everybody.This is the Shutdown Fullcast.I am Spencer Hall, editor of SB, editorial director of SB Nation,and editor of Every Day should be Saturday.Joining us on this fine college football podcast from beautiful Kennesaw, Georgia, isJason Kurt.That's me.That's him.
00:25We can hear you.It's a college football editor at SB Nation.and from beautiful Brooklyn, New York, New York, New York is...Ryan Nanny, New York.Ryan Nanny, New York, New York, standing on top of his modem,which he splits with somebody for $800 a month.Only in New York!Well, it's worth it because of the culture.
00:49It's worth it because of the things you get to walk by.Because of the bacteria culture, growing on the modem.It's cold garbage.It's not hot like it is elsewhere.Except what it is.It's a really great place to watch the authenticated and fully fulfilled dreams of trust-fund children spread out before you.It's really magnificent.Only there can you see their imagination fully realized and horrible form from the college football capital of the world.
01:23Go Rutgers!We're not here to talk badly about New York, although we're going to start out that way.because we're going to go directly to read our questions this week.I feel like we've kind of talked week three to deathbecause week three just wasn't that substantial.So I want to go straight to Syracusein case we aren't going ahead and answering the questionwith the Twitter handle.
01:46Do you think that's supposed to be Syracuse Dand he just didn't realize it was a pun?No, because there's two Cs in there.So maybe there's an ACC pun going on.I just figured he misspelled Syracuse.Well, it's a really good school if you've never heard of it.Remember, that's what everyone says when they're deeply insecure about their school.It's a really good school.
02:07Have you guys ever been Syracuse of, like, losing the Georgia Tech by 56 points?That is such an unfair Syracusation.I've been Syracuse of being soft-nosed by Syracuse's own coach.You do have very soft-nose.I think it's very pleasant.It's plush and pleasing.to the touch. But Grand Sam, aka Syracuse, in case you can't tell how this question's going to beanswered, says, why do you guys hate Syracuse football? And I have an answer, and it's this,
02:40this is what we're going to open up discussing. My answer is this. There are two types of fan bases.There are those who are self-aware, and there are those who aren't, and Syracuse falls firmlyin the ladder of being entirely unaware of their actual position in college football. Gentlemen,and agree or disagree?Absolutely agree.Any sort of a list on anything?If it's here are 10 teams that are maybe going to win the title or any sort of anything within seconds.It's why isn't Syracuse on this list?
03:13Or I shouldn't say it like that.It's why isn't Syracuse on this list because they would pronounce it correctly,which is one thing they have going for them.I think in part that's because Syracuse probably gets left off a lot of lists.There are probably many times where the ACC office is distributed, like,oh, here's the 2015 schedule, and Syracuse just like, we're not on this.You left us off entirely.Like, oh, yeah, you guys are.
03:45We thought you were still with Yukon, just doing your own thing.I think a good test of whether you're going to be an entirely successful or self-aware programis does everybody know what conference you're in?because there's kind of a direct relationship to certainty of conference and locationand overall confidence and self-awareness as a program.Well, everyone knows.Yeah.Well, Syracuse, it's either in the America East or the Patriot League.
04:15We're down to those two.The National League Central.Yeah.I will say this.If you write about Syracuse, you just might not as well.Because, one, they're actually not worth the attention.Here's why.since in 2001 they go 10 and 3
04:28and then here's the rest of their pitiful recordsover the past decade4 and 8, 6 and 6, 6 and 6, 1 and 104 and 8, 2 and 10, 3 and 9, 4 and 8, 8 and 5, 5 and 7and 8 and 5.All right, you're basically public schoolNotre Dame playing inside a giganticun-air-conditioned shed
04:52named after an air-conditioning company.they've never heard that before and we're just going to keep repeating it because it's endlessly funnyokay oh they remember like for a decade we won like 10 and nine games yeah you were playing in the big eastyou had donovan mcnab that's like the last thing that happened everybody won 10 games in the old big eastlike they just they just gave them to you they came in the mail yeah they didn't they didn't exactly add upit was sort of like a website that predicts uh wins and losses for uh for for every teamteam in a division and they don't really add up but we like everybody being happy but they'renot real self-aware and i'll pair this with a question nobody asked but we're happy to answer
05:34who's the flip side of that coin in your opinion jason if we're going for oh who would be theopposite of a a chaff-dict syracuse fan who wants something kind to be said about their program whenthere's very little to be said i'm going immediately to texas a and m which might be surprised forsome people such as Texas fans who thought, oh, ho, ho, people in the South don't know whatthey're getting with the crazy Aggies. They're going to regret this, man, they're going to hateit, and all that stuff, which is totally not true, because these people are insane. They knowthey're insane. They're proud of how insane they are. They obsess over every single thing that couldpossibly be obsessed over, and they're obsessed with you recognizing how obsessed they are
06:21with these things.They are the self-diagnosed lunatics, and for that, we cherish them.And Ryan, for you, who would your pair of extremely self-aware and then not at allself-aware fans?Start with the negative.Okay.My extremely unself-aware, I'm going to go with Maryland because I think Maryland's fine.I don't think it's a bad program by any means.
06:48but anytime you happen to wander into a Maryland corner of the internet,it's all this focus on like, listen, we just need to, we just need something that's goingto take us to the top.And there's not really a lot of recognition that like, hey, that might just not be inthe cards, you know, you might not compete every year for the Big Ten championship.And that's cool.You can win eight, nine games and still be four.fun. Like, you know, Ralph Regent didn't make y'all a top 10 team every year, but Maryland was a program people talked about and had some fun players here and there and went to good bowls. But people in Maryland are very sort of, you know, insistent that there is some magic alchemy that nobody has figured out that will unlock Maryland's true potential as a beautiful college football butterfly.
07:48yeah which it's just a mothit's just a moth and that's fine just be a mothit's a turtle flyjust just float around and chew onIndiana's coat that's finelook sort of respectable sitting againsta brightly lit outdoor light bulb rightyeah yeah there you go be the best moth
08:09you can be marylandlook incredible on flickeryeah look incredible on flickerfeed a hungry bird that's what marylandHolland's job is to feed a hungry bird.Who is your most self-aware?I'm changing it.I know I had said another team before we started,
08:27but now I'm changing it because I thought about it.And I'm going to go with South Florida.Because there was a period there where,so I am known to, first of all,I'm a known Tampa native.That's on my government records,and it can never be removed,no matter how many times I go to the pay and spray.
08:46Yeah, you can't hide that.You go right on the pay and spray.pray 50 bucks you still got three stars on that police chase me just stillTampa forever and I've certainly run a foul of our USF friends because of mynegativity towards Tampa and for a while there I think they were prettyinsistent that you know they deserve to be considered an up-and-coming program they hadyou know jumped over to FBS and done some things and won some games etc etcbut I appreciate that it seems USF and its fan base have accepted that at least for now
09:26things are just shitty and that's just how it is and that's not great and I don't wish thatupon them but there is a value in recognizing that it's just not good right now and I saythat as a Florida fan I understand I get I get painful sustained mediocrity nowyeah so that's that's my two i got two hands on that ass that ass of mediocrine wow yeah uh we've got uh i've gottwo teams to address here the one that i believe has the the least self-awareness by the waywe went three for three on acc which i think is appropriate because they're primarily basketballfans who kind of put on that football war gear for about two months maybe threesometimes three and a half
10:19unless they're Virginia Tech or Florida State fansright they go hardand then they're like oh basketballso it's kind of an actand I think they're overly zealous about itit's a little overdetermined and theatricalbut Georgia Tech fans are notthat because they don't even have basketball
10:35to look forward to be really hopefultoo so I think the bitterness is realyou're already in so many angryMaryland fansthat are like we're not in the ACC anymore you assholeI knowYeah, but the thing is, yes, you are.Everyone knows you still are before.
10:51Please, we still look at you, South Carolina being the ACC,and they haven't been in the ACC since like the 60s, right?It was 72 or 68 somewhere in there they come over.It's like radiation.It's just kind of, it's always going to be there.I think Jason Kirk has just posited ACC Half-Life,that really there's a half-lifeto be in the ACC
11:18and that Maryland's has not worn off.It's like a Bowden half-life?So yes, Maryland, I'm real sorry for confusing youfor still being in the ACCand giving that fine quality loss to West Virginiato the Big Tenso they could go three and sixthis past weekend out of conference
11:36including one for 10versus the power conferences for the season.Sorry I didn't give you that carrot, ponies.I'm sorry.You should go back to talking about Georgia Tech now.I made it much worse.Oh, yeah, I'm going to make it much worse because I get to talk about Georgia Tech fans.Speaking of, by the way, courts low on the oil of humanity anyway being engineers, right?
11:57So not exactly the cuddliest people to begin with.How do I hug?Like, probably a quarter of all research at Georgia Tech is devoted to how to get along with other human beings, right?Much less interact with the rest of the world.I know this because I got a master's therein the most humane and thus least math-intensive program everinternational affairs.I will also say this while I was there,
12:23Chan Galey was the coach.How many football games did I go to as a studentwho could have waltzed in for next to nothing at that stadium?How many football games did I attend?Two.Two.Zero.Oh.
12:41We were close.Why on earth would I have voluntarily shown up to watch a Chan Galee coach football team?And I understand.I don't know, maybe you were meeting your dealer there or something.Well, that wouldn't have been good.We could look at the city of Atlanta sitting in the stadium.It's a beautiful, beautiful skyline.We would have been spotted.
13:09You can't meet your dealer in the stands at Georgia Tech because it's pretty obviousbecause you're the only two people in the section.That's not even lying at this point.Because Georgia Tech, I think,they have to be driven somewhat madby being a pretty good football teamover the past 30 years, but never really greatby lucking into one of the most bizarre
13:32split national titles ever in 1990,which, by the way, did come out of nowherebecause if you look at them before that,their win totals, the previous five yearsare like two and three.like two three seven eleven and then immediately after as well and then they just dropped back off into fiveand six land you know it's probably the weirdest national title of the last 30 years and that inb yu eighty four like those two national titles both utterly bizarre they have to be angry
14:02because they've made several atrocious hiring decisions and even the good decisions that theymade weren't exactly the kind that you could feel really great about personallyGeorgia Leary.Yay, we hired Georgia Leary.Now, speaking on Georgia Tech, I sympathize here because I was raised a Georgia Tech fanand I come from a long line of Georgia Tech fans.So I sort of get the mindset.And, like, to me, it's the helpful thing that I would advise Georgia Tech fans on is
14:36just stop talking about Georgia, just for the love of God.Just pretend Georgia doesn't exist except for,one or two weeks per year, and everything will be, you know, life will be rosier for you,people will get along with you better, but I've just never seen a fan base, in general, withexceptions, of course, more focused on Big Brother at the expense of everything else.Yeah, as far as self-awareness goes, I think Georgia Tech people, a great deal of them could takesome lessons. I mean, Georgia won't let them do that, though. Like, Georgia won't let them not talkabout Georgia. Because there's a personality conflict at root here, too, which is that they're always
15:21going to be the nerd. And they can make, like, way more money than your average UGA grad and leada happier life and be smarter, which they are on the whole. I'll give you credit for that. You'resmarter in every single way, but this one. Sure, so celebrate those things. That would be, that would beThat would be the smart way to do, but you're not, you're not wise.They're smart, but they're not wise because they will never turn down the bait of a UGA grad.No matter what a miserable, bloated, horrible golf wasteoid of a UGA grad they're up against.They will never put down the opportunity to get in that futile argument.Are we calling Georgia fans wise?
16:03In this sense, yes.They're wise in the sense that they know that they've gotAnd this is the Georgia fan thing, by the way, is that they're so dumbThey only have one joke for everyoneAnd they'll just ride itAnd they know that it works every single timeIt's hey, just run the dang jokeRun the dang joke
16:24They do everything that Mike Bobo refuses to doRun the play that worksAnd the play that always works on Georgia Tech isNerd and Cheat and Loserwhich comparatively, by evidence, is totally true.It's the worst part.It's very Jeff Foxworthy of them.It is real bad approach up to them.
16:46You might be you if you're a nerd.If you're a nerd.Like they are, the idioticrat fan base of the University of Georgia will lean on that because it works.Because they might be idiots, but they're not unwise.The fan base that I would say is most self-aware.Wazoo. Washington State fans areamong my favorite group of people becauseyou can say I believe
17:12this year's Washington State Cougarsare basically onegiant steaming heap ofcaribou shit and they'll gobrother don't I knowhere's a shot of me drinking my ass off at the gameand in 15 degreescheering for those coogs who
17:30cooged it againlike that's they they are so self-fuland so comfortable and possessed with their own mediocrity that it's kind of beautiful,that they know the only thing they're supposed to do.It's not even win the tailgate.They've even managed to reduce that to something that they can win.They're like, well, we can't win the tailgate because other people tailgate harder andthey might have prettier campuses.
17:55But what we can do is we can drink every town we visit dry.Oh, yeah.That's what they'll win.They famously drank Auburn dry.they drink a plane to the Las Vegasbowl dry.A plane.They're like locusts.
18:11They are.They're like locuststhat feed exclusively onalcohol.God should have just sentWazoo fans to Pharaoh first.I give up.I adore them because
18:25if you follow any of their road tripson Twitter and or Facebook,you just set an alertfor Wazoo or Washington State fansand you start seeing thesepanes.alerts from locals at the host cities going we're out of beer we're out of booze they tookeverything we're out of rubbing alcohol no gas in my car I really appreciate that
18:53they're taking all of the liquid out of this environment I really appreciate thatso clemsoning means a very specific thing but cooging itcooged it that has such a rich it's such a rich universe of ways in which something can be coogedoh it's an astonishing variety like oh well blocked a fake punt and gave up 35 in the second quartercooged it like i feel like you can coog it before the game even starts yeah absolutely we gotthree freshmen and two walk-ons on the offensive line cooged it cooged it uh well manMan, what a...Now, now, to be fair, how would the two of you rate Florida on this scale?
19:41Well, it's a very large fan base, so it's hard to get a handle on.But overall, I think we're very...I think we're unaware, for the most part.Yeah. Oh, we're horribly unaware.Yeah.Horribly.You know, like, I shouldn't be this upset by this season.I really shouldn't have been this upset by last season.
19:59Well, your particular brand of madness has less to be...do with self-awareness than it doesmasochism.So, yeah.Because you know how,you know how absurd it is, but youare still doing it. Do I?I think you do.
20:17You've written tens of thousandsof words about Florida footballfor the last three years.Yeah, that's not real self-aware. I probably should have juststopped.The thing that seems crazy to me about Florida fansis the idea thatwinning nine to
20:33six is no goodyou have to win 50 to31 or otherwise the win doesn'tcount. Like that's always seemed insaneto me about Florida fans. Yes, but that's true.Well, there you go.It's a style thing, God damnit.
20:51Like, what's the point of living?You want to answer a couple of other questions? I haveone or two that I might want to get tobefore we address the week's games.Okay, I got one.This is from at Weebman.else.Appropriately, the question is, which coach is most likely to be a juggalo?
21:12Now, I want to interpret this question that it is not which coach could be most easily a juggalo.It's which coach is most likely now to actually be in his personal life a juggalo.Okay.Do you have an answer?Because I do.Well, let's hear your answer.My answer would be, I think it's got to be, no, no, no, I'm trying to decide between two coaches, and I think it has to be Paul Rhodes.Wow.
21:51The passion he exhibits?I think it's the passion he exhibits, because I just see him.The lunging?Yeah, and PJ Fleck a second.okay oh that's a really good choice yeah that's PJ Fleck was where I was I was thinkingI think that's where I was leaning to because uh I was pulling up the the salaries database tofind a really a really young Mac coach who doesn't make much money and needs someone aside andhey he fits all three of those I think Paul Petrino would be a very interesting juggalo
22:22lonely out there in Moscow that's that's a good one uh I'm going to take this question by thewhich is the who would rope a hog better okay this is from the Texas State UniversityLarry Koker Dennis Francioni and I think that UTSA asked it or Texas State asked us thata guy Will Butler who apparently has the handle the TXST Univ so I don't think it's actuallyI think we can assume he's a school president all right yeah Will Butler president of Texas StateUniversity, ask, who a rope a hog better, Larry Coker, Dennis Franchone? And seriously, this is thebiggest blowout I could have picked. Larry Coker, by far. Grew up in Oklahoma. As far as I know,Dennis Franchone is just, he's just a small town villain from a roadhouse, straight to DVD-style
23:14drama. I'm going Larry Coker all the way. I mean, he did, Franchone did grow up in Kansas,so I don't know if that swings it at all, but probably not.he's also coached at a texas aanm yeah and new mexico i think that's a that's a survival skillin certain parts of the world yeah but only in the sense of like oh you learned how to live offdue yeah you know larry cocker's been out of work recently he he could have had to have forgedfor food as recently as like six years ago so i'm i'm still going with him okay that's fairright pork pork is uh pretty popular in south florida so you never knowC C.
23:59El Hamon.Jason, you got another one?Yeah, this one comes to us from Nixon Robocop.Which NHL team is the most SEC?I don't fucking know.Man.Are there, what are, what, do you know of any of those?I mean, the thrashers, I guess.
24:18Wherever they are.Otherwise, the hawks.I'm actually going to say the Detroit.red wings and here's why onethey win all the timeand twothey basically commit a minor active animalcruelty to celebrate so
24:37that seemed pretty SEC to meokay that'll workwhat's the animaloh they there's an octopus or somethingyeah they throw that octophockey facts exactly they throw that octopus out there on the icethat's pretty barbaric and that to mescreams the southeastern part of the United States
24:54now there's one in Tennessee isn't thereyeah but you know that's just a bunch ofOhio State fans.A bunch of people from Ohio who want a better quality of life so they go to Tennesseeand boy, what a sad statement that is.Calling you out, Kirk Herb Street.I see you, Kirk.I'm sure he's a listener.
25:14Every week.Game day prep.He's hanging up his clothes in the shower right now.Hey, wait a second.Kirk, find that.Kirk, if you listen to this.podcast you'll get germs there he'll never listen again okay good we've we've saved him yeah he's totallyright uh Ryan you got a one more reader question anywhere in there yes um this is from uh Nicholas Eckert
25:43and he wants to know could Florida beat no no hold on hold on no let me let me all rightSpencer you are the most negative person about Florida football right now in in the worldExcept for Wheelbust champ.Okay, all right.Even he is more optimistic than you are, though.So let me run through the teams, and you tell me, we'll stop once you say Florida couldn't beat somebody.But let me run through them, okay?Okay.
26:13Let's start with Purdue.Could Florida beat Purdue?Yeah.Could Florida beat Northwestern?Yes.Could Florida beat...RutgersI'm going to say that Gary Nova
26:31versus our secondaryis probably a bad matchupokay all rightso we've got three big 10 teams alreadyyeah let's let's uplet's up in a littlecould Florida beat Iowano no no no no
26:44Florida is exactly the kind of teamwho's meant to fall into Kirk Ferrence'shoneypotokay could Florida beat Michiganyeah that's not goodAll right, so we've at least found four big big 10 teams Florida could beat.We've got Illinois.I don't know who that is.
27:04Yeah, that's not football.I was just looking at a map.I was just looking at a state.I saw the name of a state nearby.Tweet, Aligni football, second quarter.Do you guys all follow that account now?Oh, God.They stormed through with a safety to go down 252 to Florida.
27:22I just want to send a message to all our listeners.one follow that account.Follow the Illini football official Twitter account, please.Follow it.It's the saddest thing you will ever watch,and you really have to like admire the bravery and fortitudeof the person who has to watch all this and go,oh, field girl, Aligni.
27:40I want somebody to just follow, make a Twitter account,just follow the Illinois football account and nothing else,and you try for a whole week.Try for that to be all you know about the sports world.It'll be such a gas lighting.You'll come out of it the next weekand you'll be like, oh my God,I didn't even realize these other teams played.
28:02This is great.Illinois lost.I thought we won by 30.Yeah, my God.There's people who score on purpose.Wow.Yeah.So, yeah, the only teams that I think
28:18that Florida would seriously struggle within the Big Ten,Iowa because it's dumb.It's just dumb playing.football with them and dumb on dumb is like pretty much must champ nightmare um i think thatohio state we probably lose to even with um braxton miller yep yep oh yeah it would be extremelywell must champ to make a quarterback an opposing quarterback who hadn't done anything look awesomenow um wisconsin oh wisconsin hall how long would it take for florida to
28:54score on Michigan State. Not how many points would Michigan State give up, just how long would ittake to score? A touchdown, seven quarters. Oh, that's too short. Seven, we'd have to play two,we'd have to play one point seven five games to get to a TD. No, I don't see, I think that's, yeah,that's rosy. I'm an optimist. You know that. I know, I'm sorry. This is getting dark. Yeah,let's stop answering this question.Let's actually talk aboutgames of note this week,starting with maybe my favorite matchup
29:29the entire week, which happens early.We're eating dessert first,which is appropriate for Kansas.And Alabama.And Alabama, we'll eat two desserts first.You hit that chocolate wonderfulas an appetizer.Because Auburn is going to Kansas State
29:48the Battle of Cow versus Cowellin Manhattan.Kansas. I love this matchup because it is one team that wants to run as many plays as possibleversus one that will state overtly and explicitly that it would like to run as slow inoffense as possible with the most possible damage. Yeah, Kansas State runs the home alonedefense and offense. He's like, uh-oh, we put tar and nails everywhere.Your fault if you step on it. I'm a child so I can't be prosecuted.Cuted. Ron Prince left
30:24Grandpa alone at the house again.Just Bill Snyder, home alone overthe holidays. Watchingangels with dirty faces. It's settingbooby traps everywhere.Eating pizza.Eating pizza.Singing in the mirror while he
30:39shaves, right, with the towel on his head.Just talking to his MichaelJordan cutout.Well, with him, it's like aGeorge Mican cutout, right?Some oldancient. Oh, I miss you, George.It's like an Archangel Michael cut out.
30:57Dunking.Yeah, the shot clock ended your career, and that wasn't fair.Should be no limit on greatness chronologically.Yeah, I also like this game, too, because it'll be very interesting to me to see exactly how frustrated Auburn gets with this.Because it will be really frustrating.This will be a very frustrating game for Auburn.Now, they actually run kind of similar.offenses um just at totally different speeds yeah in a way it's going to be kind of like watching
31:29a game just pressing fast forward at random it albren Kansas state is basically Auburn's like screwedand chopped yeah like that's like it's the whole offense just run really slowlyBill Snyder's on that lean he's oh hey what that purple that purple drank yeah exactly whatcolor do they wear what color do they wear K state's been on that perp longbefore it was a hit.So I'm super intrigued by this game.What else catches Yon Eye this week, Ryan Neenie?Oh, my God.
32:04Not Alabama, hosting Florida.Oh, no, I'm skipping.Okay, I will go ahead throw out Virginia at BYU.Thank you for throwing that out.What are you moving on to now that that's thrown out?No, I am interested to see ifI am interested to see if Virginia's defense is actually all that goodand if they can contain Taysom Hill that would be fun
32:34and if they can't I am enjoyingactively rooting for everything else to burn down on the way to BYUgetting a playoff bid even though they will have only beatenlike the sixth and seventh and tenth best teams in power conferences.I'm fine with that.I feel pretty bad for BYU, though,because by the time a playoff rolls around,they're going to be so tired.
33:02They're like,oh, those kids having sleep troubleand we're sleep training in the other baby.Yeah, getting through the holidays.Getting through the holidays and New Year's got the family around.Yeah, we've got to spend Thanksgiving at her house.In-laws.And laws.
33:18Okay, fine.You don't like that.I will give you a better one.Utah at Michigan.Because I like this game for reasons that can only be described as purely evil.Are you hoping that Utah puts up like a 40 spot on Michigan at home?Oh, oh, man, am I ever?Because Michigan has beaten, I would say, their two wins have come over.
33:43two of the bottom 10 teams in FBS.Is that fair?Miami and App State?Yeah, they're both pretty deplorable.You threw out the records in that Michigan Appalachian State rivalry.That's true.That's true.It's just pure clean mountain hate.
34:05Pure clean mountain to boring Midwestern prairie.Mountain to Sandwich Town.No way to talk about the Upsils.The Upsils.Yeah, you don't get to pick games anymore, Ryan.I'm going to go, I'm going to ask Jason,because you picked two atrocities.A week where we actually have a fair amount of interesting football.
34:29Jason, I'm not sorry.What catches your eye?Well, there's a few headliners,but I hope we don't overlook Mississippi State,and it's fine defense traveling to play LSU,a team that at this point, their entire offense is just slinging it to that wide receiver, Darrell.I don't know how you say his last name.I haven't watched any LSU games so far this year.
34:54That's good.Dural.Dural.It's Louisiana.It's probably Dural.Ror, Durrull.But the entire offense is just hoping this fellow catches an 85-yard touchdown,and then they just sort of shut it down.
35:09Is that going to work against Mississippi State?yes probably it'sprobablyremember they haven'tthey haven't beaten them since 1999that was the last timeLSU lost and by the waywell you know what
35:22surge is coming back sothis is the surge gamethe Wayne Matkin surgethat was a 3 and 8 LSU teamby the way and like they won by the skinof their teeth I think it was like alike a 1716 gameSo Mississippi State, at its best, and its most powerful, juiced with all of that Jackie Cheryl corruption, you know, football steroid, still only beat LSU by a point.
35:55So it's probably not happening.That's my guess.I'm going to tackle it because I'm going.Maybe Florida at Alabama.It'll be bad.Just be ready.It's going to be an awful thing to want.watch. Florida will probably get more yards than Alabama wants because Alabama's now a really
36:16glamorous League 12 team. But that doesn't really matter because Alabama's been averaging over500 yards of offensive game and didn't show anything this past week in their blowout ofSouthern Miss. So I just assume this is the usual pave and prey game. They'll just put us in theground, put a nice headstone on us, and I'll have to drive four hours home crying.again.You did that to yourself.I don't feel bad for you.I know.
36:45I don't ask for your pity.I'm going to watch Utah, Michiganand go to bed at a reasonable hour.So there.Seven.I ain't even going to watch it.I'm going to sleep all day.I'm just going to go to bed.
37:03It's a sleeper day for me.Just going to go to bed and guess Jeff Driscoll's numbers.19 for 52.Three I&Ts, no touchdowns, and two fumbles.Be like, oh, my God, I was exactly right.You know what?Let's do this right now.Call Jeff Driscoll's line.
37:22Like, seriously.Call this line.We'll see who comes closest to it.Is anybody going to keep track of this?I'm going to write this down right now.These are our guesses for Jeff Driscoll's line.Should we just do yards for sake of?Nope, nope, make it as exactly.
37:40as possible, so that we can make this bet as absurd as possible.All right.I'm going to go 14 of 37 for 212 yards, one touchdown, and one interception.14 and 37, 212 yards for one touchdown and two interceptions?One interception.One touchdown.Ooh, you're conservative with the interceptions.Okay.
38:06All right.Jason?you can put me down for 12 of 23I'll doactually you know whatI think DeMarcus Robinson can light up Alabama a little bitthe thing is if Jeff Driscoll can survive long enough for that to happenso well we'll go with that same completion total
38:31butmaybe say 200is it who's it closest without going overyeah do you want to do the prices right system yeah yeah put me down for that okay so 211 yardsbecause Ryan's at 212 yeah yeah yeah well no way well no then he either want to go 213 in that caseI'll do 12 of 12 of 23 for one yard I'm writing you down for that 12 and 23 for one yardand with a lot of plays what's our TD and I and T here uh I'll go two touchdowns and uh onepick. Okay.
39:10You guys are optimists.One yard and two touchdowns.There's a weird backwards thing going.There's a lot of sacks. A lot of sacks.I will go large and suggest that he goes 22 or 47.Oh, no, there's going to be a lot of passing because they're going to be down.for 200and I'm going to go up
39:39I'm going to go 287 yardsWowYeah with no TDsand three picksAnd I won't evenentertain what my heart saysWhich is that he's going to get injuredBecause that's what happens to Jeff Driscoll
40:01versus AlabamaThis would make it the thirdhighest passing yardage in his career.Yep, yep.I think that's what we've got because he's throwing the ball that many times.And his highest was last week.Yep, new day, new offense.I hate myself.
40:19Remember, new day, new offense, same results.Well, they might go to triple overtime.That's been the funniest thing this week from Florida analysts is,look at this offensive output.It's when you had seven quarters.Of course she put up a bunch of yards.Kentucky was tired.I'm telling you,
40:40we're just getting a more innovativeand exciting variation of failure.That's what this year for Florida footballwill be all about.I think another game to look atif we are gazing at the scheduleand looking at potentially interesting games,Clemson and Florida State
40:59to me is potentially interestingonly because Florida State can't possibly be excited enough about this game.Like they can't.Florida State just go to like, yeah, it's Clemson.And if there's anything we know about Davo Swinney,is that his team will be excited.Maybe not.Without doubt.
41:20Maybe not ready.Maybe not productive.Maybe not capable.But like their fingers plugged into a light socket.Bang.Bolting out of there.I would also point you to Oklahoma.maybe the legitimate, like, the most legitimately scary game for a major opponent this week is Oklahoma at West Virginia.
41:43Oh, without question.I mean, you could say scary road trip without even talking about the game.We don't have to involve football.That's just terror right there.There's only one road in and out.That may be my favorite end of game story ever was going there for the LSU game and looking as the greatevil fog fell off of the mountain over the stadium and just began to creep, like a Stephen King shortstory into the stands. And you know it's a bad situation when LSU fans are like, well,
42:17let's get the hell out of here. This ain't right. This ain't Christian. Really? Oh yeah. I got a reallow bar for what that is. Yeah, that's like, that's beyond like the canary in the coal mine. That's likethe dragon in the coal mine is scared.yeah like if you're ever in some sort of you know space opera kind of movie and the aliens and predator all begin running past you right like that's that's what that is uh anything else catching the eye this week gentlemen uh i think cal arizona could be fun late at night just because points that's got the highest fun quotient to me yeah like i don't i don't think that'll necessarily be a game you say that was really well played but you'll say boy there wereA lot of touchdowns where the cornerback had no idea what was going on.That was fun.Yeah.Anything for you, Jason?
43:13We should mention Miami-Dabrasca.There's an important historical element there.You know, Miami might have a decent passing day.You never know.Nebraska's had a little bit of attrition in the secondary and so forth.That one could get interesting.You didn't sound like you believed that at all.Well, I was asked, and, you know, it's, I mean, do you want me to talk about South Carolina Vanderbilt or?
43:39I'm going to give you one more, just to put it all, just to tie it all together here at the end of a taught 45-minute podcast.Is that all?I feel like we're robbing people.I know.Just to give it to you, I think there's going to be some spectacular variation on Cooganette, because Oregon comes to Pullman.Yeah, that's going to be, this might be that we always talk about the Oregon third quarter, where Oregon, you know, the games, that's like a three-point game at the half, and then Oregon dumps 45 points on some poor sucker.It might be in for one of those here.Might be in for four third quarters.
44:19This was the game last year where Oregon's defensive coordinator complained that Washington State was throwing the ball too much, even though they were down like five touchdowns, right?This is the game when Connor HallidayThey're mad that Connor Halliday was running down the scoreYeah which by the wayHe's running down the score and setting a recordBeating Drew Breeze's recordFor attempts in a gameAgainst Oregon with 89
44:49And I'm going to go ahead and go out there and say that this year's variation of CooganetIs going to be the Washington State CougarsPissing Oregon off and doubling downwith Mike Leaves calling over 90 passes in this game.That's right.Can they crack 100?So I'm going to say, you would say over 100's possible in this case.There's only one way to find out, just, you know, make it happen.
45:13At that point, do you have Conner Halliday on like a baseball pitch count?Like, we need to get our setup man in there.Start throwing?Bring in the bullpen.We got the closer QV coming in.He's thrown 120.His arm's going to fall off.Connor is a knuckleer.
45:28you can leave him out there.There's a strong case to be made for that.Mike Leach is just the dusty baker.What's the pitch count?300?400?I don't know.He's Grover Cleveland out there.
45:43He'll tell me if he wants to come out.He's not bleeding.Conor Halliday.Exactly.Well, you know he is, too.I think that at any point of Washington State QBis bleeding continuously and profuselyfrom some part of his body.
45:57from a Stanford hit that hasn't even happened yetfrom some unheeled World War I war woundthat gets passed down from generation to generationwhat's that it's the Washington State bayonet stabevery quarterback has the Washington State bayonet stabGrandpa Fred coogged it against the KaiserI think we end with that
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