Shutdown Fullcast - The 2019 BVP Award (f.k.a. the People's Heisman)

Episode Date: December 6, 2019

Spencer, Jason, and Ryan meet to review the nominees for the 2019 BVP Award, the award we bestow upon the most college football player of the season. Many deserving candidates were discussed, from Hawaii QB Cole McDonald to LSU QB Joe Burrow's Butt. But only one could win, and we congratulate that winner, who we will not name in this description because that defeats the purpose. We also talked about Coach of the Year and Game of the Year nominees and winners. Are these awards real, you ask? Is anything, on a long enough geologic time span, we counter? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the shutdown fullcast. It is the Internet's only college football podcast. You're listening to Delsitones of Spencer Hall. One of the masterminds behind, I think, the only college football podcast. You're listening to Delsa Tones of Spencer Hall. One of the masterminds behind, I think, the only, College Football Award that I know of, the Bradley Van Pelt Award, aka the BVP. And the original Casio Dog. That is correct. Not Bradley Van Pelt, to be clear. We don't know that. I don't know that. That's fair.

I like to think of the dog noise on every standard Cassio keyboard as being the people's voice. When they sing, they sing with the cheesy cartoon computer voice of what appears to be. Bloodhound? It's Jerry Glanville. It's Jerry Glanville. It's Jerry Glanville. It's definitely not Kirby Smart because, you know, uses more than three notes.

Also, the BVP is definitely the only college football award because the Paisman Trophy is more a performance art kind of thing. That's right. I like to think of the Pysman Trophy as an unofficial Nobel. It's a technical Oscar. It's given, and just like the technical Oscars, we haven't seen it given out in a while but we'll work on that y'all

we it's a it's a James Beard Food Award right yeah that's what it is I want it when happened the other night don't worry about it don't worry about it it it's cool thank you to Michael for submitting that Cassio dog I say it he has to do that Cassio dog

it is it is my favorite thing to do because it's one of the few things I know I'm unquestionably good at. I have no argument with that. You are so good at Cassio Dog that it is one of the few impressions on this show that only one of us has ever tried to do. Like, I've never tried it. Jason and Holly have never tried it.

You own Cassio Dog. It's my corner. And stay off it unless you want to get cut. Because I can't imagine anything more humiliating than being beaten up or stabbed by somebody while they Cassio dog at you. I think even more humiliating is losing an orchestrated Cassio dog

battle on stage as the crowd is, oh! Right, right. Oh, damn. He got you. Eat shit, Eminem. Just hearing like party up in my head. No, that's a written. That's a written.

Ben, whin, win, win, win, win. You spat that shit yesterday. we're here to hand out the BVP award which because it is like our podcast people's choice we asked you the people if you are more than two is people

more than two is definitely people that's in the Bible it is in the Bible proper grammar the BVP Award remember it is the award given to the player who I think the best definition of that that element we're looking for is the most college football player good players sometimes even great players who may or may not go on to be successful in the NFL but definitely hit some kind of personal zenith

and i think and really sort of hit like peak identity at the college level they might they might end up being NFL MVP that may happen they may have very long careers they will never quite be themselves as much as they were playing college football with that what we did here was we opened this up for public uh balloting let's let's put it that way for the people for the people's award paid in we made a google spreadsheet as all democracy is uh the the official mode of democracy well we did that because it's unhackable right our information is secure online particularly with google um and some of y'all have read Spencer's article on

how the BVP Award works and some of you haven't. The ones of you who haven't, you suggested names like Joe Burrow. We love Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow is aiming a bit higher than the BVP Award when it comes to hardware. What he doesn't realize is that the good stuff is lower.

Also, the only BVP thing Joe Burrow really did this year, I would argue, would be when he came out for LSU's last regular season game, with the alternate jersey yeah so to be clear if you're if you were stacking up the last 10 or 20 heisman winners and saying who's the most bvp joe burrow's pretty high on that list right but uh we

primarily admire him for his you know number one NFL draft type talent mark ingram bvp no definitely also not a heisman hurtful we all know it we all know it we all know it So what I did was I went through and struck a few names. Chase Young, we love him, not a BBP. He's already an NFL player. Yeah, not, yeah, no. Stuck playing college football. You don't get to be a cyborg and make the BBP award.

Although maybe, can I correct that? You could be a cyborg, but you'd have to have like some weird defective Russian part. Well, if you were a cyborg who after every sack, after every, like fourth down, third down sack, you ran over and snatched a saxophone from the band and started playing it. Like that I think would be like, okay, now we can talk about that. Okay. Your saxophone cyborg.

Yeah. So I have two points of view here. One, if you are a cyborg who is openly a cyborg, that is pretty fucking interesting. And you're up for this award. If you say, no, look at my robot parts. I'm literally us. However, now we are getting into debates about consciousness and identity because. And the soul.

The people's award, can it honor someone who is only half a people? Wow. See, this is a bit too big of a debate. Is that a cyborg or an android? I can never remember which is much. Yeah, you're right. Ah, shit. See?

We are not prepared for this debate. I think the difference is that cyborg is more macho and gunnier. Android usually associated with robots in the future used for sex. Or, well, or data on Star Trek. It's definitely not used for stuff. for sex. If you are an Android, you have spent the past year

at Liberty University. Frozen one might say. Having sex with Hugh Freeze. So, I struck a few names, Derek Brown, awesome player, not going to make the cut here.

I struck several names from the public balloting and I'm going to run backward through the top 10. This first one, it's a little bit of a curveball because it's Joe Burroughs, but enough people

nominated Joe Burroughs But for the BVP Award that it makes the top 10. We have seen his nude ass because an opposing player, I believe, Mississippi State, while attempting to tackle the greatest college football player alive, accidentally yanked down his pants to about three quarters massed.

Joe Burroughs' butt, congratulations on your nomination. I like to imagine like we're panning over a theater and they're Joe Burroughs butt is in the crowds. just like looking happy to be there. I love it. Sitting next to Marley Matlin.

Yeah, I love it because Joe Burrow would have to be there, but we'd have to like put a hood over his head or something. Right, right. He'd face backwards or we'd put him on a massage table. You know like old-timey photographers, how they'd step under the curtain? It's like that, but they're turned around. We don't mean to objectify you, Joe.

It's just we're just following with the spreadsheet set. You know how you only put on Phil? what you need to put on film, that's what we're doing. It's a cut up of you, right? Like, I don't know, I got three hours of game footage here. Can I just get the snaps with your ass? You're only playing Georgia. Just put your butt on film.

It'll be fine. I'm excited because there is some NFL, there will be some NFL draft room that, like, Zepruder films that is like, but is this the ass of a starter? Is this the ass of a Super Bowl winner? I think so. We've all seen it. Fair. We can all have opinions.

Sorry. Please continue with the august list of top ten. Number nine, Malcolm Perry, Navy quarterback. I went through his bona fides on our previous episode here. But, I mean, I think a Service Academy quarterback is literally the most college football player possible, particularly one who runs an offense that the NFL hasn't used, but is rapidly coming around to. Ken Neumato Lolo should be an NFL head coach. Any minute now? I think we all recognize it.

Who's in the division with the Ravens and who's dumb? Well, the Bengals just got a new coach. So, yeah, this is. The Browns have a new-ish coach. Ah, but he sucks. Everybody hates Freddy Kitchens. So put him on the grounds. Yeah, or this.

Freddy Kitchens is forced by his ownership to switch to the triple option next year. Yeah, there we go. I mean, he's from Alabama, so he's telling he gets to run the ball more. You're trying to tell, like, maybe. this is actually what unlocks the potential of a fully functional battle station, Freddy Kitchens, right? Like, hey, you got to run the bone. All of a sudden, his eyes start glowing.

Yeah. Yeah, just. Whatever it keeps to keep Freddie Kitchens showing up for game day, dressed like an extra in snatch is really all I care. Freddy, Freddie, run Bear Bryant's 1978 offense. Fine. So powerful. Next up, Kenny Gainwell.

Memphis all-purpose weapon of the future one in an exciting lineage of these players I was happy to see him get some votes uh next Leviska I've never been clear on how to say his last name Chanel Cheno

Chanel okay thank you Colorado wide receiver possibly going to win some actual hardware this year but that probably goes to like Bama or LSU receiver one through eight so I think he deserves some shine here next up Spencer

your guy, Bryce Perkins. Woo-hoo. My boy, I'm very, very fond of Bryce Perkins, just because Bryce Perkins, usually, like, I think he plays the role of anywhere from three to four different quarterbacks per game. He'll hit, like, five or six passes in a row, and you go, man, what a passer. And then he'll miss three or four in a row, and you go, ah, man, he's having a stroke. And then he'll rip off a 67-yard run out of nowhere, and you go, do it again. and then he flies into the line and fumbles.

That variance, the really high highs and the very low lows combined with the ability to be a 100% game-breaking trend smasher, the dude who overturns the 15-year losing street to Virginia Tech, the sentimental favorite. Did Bronco Mendon Hall cry when hugging this player? Yes, automatic BVP candidate right there. My favorite thing is that, so Bryce Perkins, I'm going to try to get this right, Bryce Perkins is brothers with Paul Perkins. He used to play at UCLA and is, I think, a jaguar now if memory serves. That sounds right. Let's just go with that. Yes. Their father is named Bruce Perkins, but Bruce is his nickname.

His real name is Paul. So Paul, quote, Bruce Perkins had two sons. One of them was Paul the second. And the other one was Bryce, because you can't also name him Bruce. Wait, was Paul. So Paul, Paul Bruce had a Paul and a Bryce. Yes. Was Paul 2 P-A-Y-L?

No, regrettably. He's just Paul the way you spell. Paul. Okay. But and of course, Bruce Perkins, former Arizona State Sun Devil, as was Bryce until the horrific neck injury. Yeah, I just been, had to spend somewhere between, I think, four and six months in a neck brace, not moving much. Like, he actually had to like, he couldn't sleep on a side. He had to like just lay there on his back, which this, I think, says something about me that when they go, man, what's the hardest part of this? Like, what's the hardest part of this to you when you're looking at it? I'm like, I don't know. It was a lot of pain, a lot of rehab.

and stuff, but man, he's got to sleep on his back. That sucks. Next up at number five, a player I think everyone fell in love with during the LSU Bama game, Clyde Edwards-Hilaire. This year's bowling ball of the year. Yeah, about 5-9, which means he's really about 5'7. If that, Clyde Edwards-Hilaire might be too good to win this.

And I say that because he is a running back who has, I believe as many or more yards than Lynn Bowden, another candidate for this. Yeah, he's got two fewer yards on the season rushing on way fewer attempts, I believe. In addition to that, he's the 11th, has the 11th most catches in the SEC in terms of just raw number of receptions. So he's basically a slot-wide receiver too. He's a monster and pass pro. He had 10 first downs in the Alabama game. He only needed six carries to get to 100 yards versus Arkansas.

And I believe had to get a 70-yarder in order to get that and then benched himself, essentially. His Arkansas stat line is very funny. It's 188 rushing yards, three rushing touchdowns on six attempts. That'll do it. Clocking out. Yeah, wasn't he sitting at like 99 or? something they're like yeah just go get one he's like 88 don't worry he also had seven catches for 65 yards everybody yeah and honestly like i know that scouts you know when you go

oh man you know but how is he in pass protection lsu hasn't had to use pass pro passed a five man set this year very much not even against alburn or florida teams that really did get after in blitzborough but when it happens edwards illair sends people flying he's one of those awful blockers that because he is about three feet off the ground, when he gets low, he hits you at about thigh level and has a tendency to send people cartwheeling through the air when he does it. It's, he might be, I mean, he's definitely like too good to do this. He is kind of short, but I don't know.

Is this just my way of saying that I'd take a bullet for Clyde Edwards E-Layer? Yeah, absolutely. Next up at number four, kind of a career, a lifetime achievement award. vote sprayberry high school's own rodrigo blank and ship unfair unfair advantage here what well we got it we got an influential cobb county resident on uh jesus on our decision making committee i'm just tallying the votes i didn't i i have i have an even more cob county nomination in fact that i haven't inserted i appreciate you doubling down on this bias instantly and going well you know what i am biased but i'm biased in two different directions cov increases

Not only are we nominating Kennesaw, Kennesaw, Georgia native Justin Fields. I'm adding Kennesaw State University's Bronson-Reckstiner as well. Wow. So now we're tripling it. That's so much, that's so much Panera energy. It's so, such strong Panera vibes. Get this bread bowl, bitch.

Number, let's see. Number three, probably my personal number one. Elijah Moore of Ole Miss. Mr. pretending to pee on the field himself. We're completely ignoring that Elijah Moore saves their ass this game, right? Did he? For a minute. Okay.

And then he didn't. Okay. Like people, people who are in the outrage business have gotten very upset with him over a unsportsman light penalty, which I don't even think should technically be an unsportsman light penalty. However, they wouldn't have been in that position anyway. if he hadn't scored a touchdown. So take that. There, he giveth and he taketh away, like the Lord.

Elijah Moore, I think the most important thing about him doing the dog pee celebration is that because of that, nobody is talking about the amazing thing he did earlier in the game where he fielded a punt and after catching it tried to signal fair catch. It was like the self-preservation to say, hey, this will be what people. people remember not that that's good internet awareness by eliza more that is that is savvy it is it's also innovative because what if it had worked what if the ref had stepped in and gone you know what no no no no that's right that's a late hit that's or if the ref had stepped in and gone this is reasonable these these are very strong fast men they're going to hit you i i applaud your decision to end

the play and cease all future potential harm on this series. Well done. So why can't you just say, hey, I'm waving. Play's over. I'm done now. Like you can take a knee, but that's not good for your knees. Right. You got to think about your joints 60 years from now. I mean, I think I think all plays should be able to stop if you just wave your hand in the air. I really like the idea of doing that, but having the hesitation for a second of whether you're going to do it, because the vendor has this one moment where they're like, I hate you so much. Isn't it really fucking insane that we have a sport where we tell a guy, hey, go stand here and look at the sky.

11 people are going to sprint at you. If you don't want to run back at them, wave your hand. How are you supposed to know? I realize there are plans for this. Your teammates, your teammates yell at you whether you should return it or not. But what if your teammates hate you? But also, if you wave your hand and you don't catch the ball, they get to hit you anyway. Yep.

sorry if you do nothing you will be destroyed what a stupid sport would you like to return kicks and punts now no what are you going where are you going i think i think there should be guys who are in cowards jerseys who just say like the no contact jersey yeah yeah just like if i get loose on you and i catch the ball plays it plays dead man plays dead this is why georgia put its third string quarterback back there and told him never return anything. What was this? Like 2012 or something like that? Logan Gray, baby. Logan Gray.

All time fair catcher. A punter slash all time fair catcher. It is by the way one of the most Georgia football things ever to just be like yeah, screw it. Screw it. I give up. Why don't you just go back there and just catch it. Just catch it and don't move.

don't move okay I'm going to go to Sonic and I'm going to get the diet cherry lime made because my sugar ain't right okay I'm going to go home I'm going to watch this game tape okay I'm going to listen to my my kids fart in the next room

all right and then I'm going to go to bed thinking about all the things I'll never ever be able to do in a house that's too hot and needs a new roof okay when I wake up the next day you know what we're going to do we're going to fair catch it again

Cause screw it Is this the special teams coach Is this Kirby smart Is this a random Georgia fan It's not your business Who I am okay All I need you to do Is to go out there

Wave your hand over your head And give up From New York City Asking me who I am Buddy who are you What I want to know is I got to go to Delanooga I got an athlete in space

Right I got a punt return out there in space. Space isn't real. The only thing above the sky is Jesus. That's right. Now I've got to go to Delanooga and pick up a part from my Dodd Ram, okay?

Because I got talked out of the F-150 because I don't know, Ford's Rust or something. Even though this thing's the most disappointing vehicle that I've owned, well, at least since Jasper Sanks. This is such a deeply personal character. There's just so much in it.

Hate you, Jasper Sanks. Just fair catch it. Jason, who is next on the list, please? So we've been discussing the idea of a football player who tries nothing, this all-time fair catch guy. Let's instead pivot to a guy who tries everything. Number two, Cole McDonald, Hawaii Rainbow Warriors quarterback,

the most 500 quarterback of all time. You've played the game, you've played the game 500, right? Yeah. When Cole's throwing every ball is worth 500 points. To someone. Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and Cole McDonald would like to achieve all of them simultaneously. Yeah, man.

Just, you know, is he going to kind of sprint around unnecessarily? Yeah, that's going to happen. All right? Is he going to throw some picks? Boy, howdy. Yeah, did he open the season by throwing four interceptions? Yeah. Did he open the season by throwing four touchdowns?

Also, yes. Has he been benched for his inconsistent play? Yeah, that's happened as well. Has he been a running quarterback for no reason whatsoever? Yeah, against University of New Mexico, our boy busted out, nine carries for 140 yards. You know how many ran for in the next game? 17!

Yeah, Cole McDonald is a trip. It's an experience. Thus far, I would say, somebody might go, oh you know he lost his starting job shouldn't that take him out of contention hell no no for bvp status absolutely not did he get his status back as starter sort of enough off and on maybe to me the bvp signifies interest interestiness and memorability losing your starting job is interesting getting it back as interesting losing it again is interesting very it's fascinating it's 500 points it's going

somewhere. The bench or the field? Also, what is Hawaii's record this year? Believe they're eight and four. When was the last time they, or nine and four at this point? What was the last time they went nine and four? Oh, it's been a minute, y'all. So it's not like Cole McDonald's not a really good football player. It's not like he is not demonstrably a winner that his teammates are either in awe of or fear or sometimes both. I think his resume has only gotten stronger. and number one on the public balloting Spencer has mentioned him so far Lynn Bowden

Kentucky football player that's a good way to put it that's his position I think they'd have him kicking if they could right like he's he's at that point but who would hold Lynn Bowden he would do the like

he would do the spin right like get up and get up and kick Lynn Bowden do everything He's the best part He's listed as a wide receiver on ESPN.com Yeah That's correct

Playing quarterback all year and having Like tons of rushing yards I don't know what you I mean technically technically he's a quarterback That's what he's doing He is he is still today Kentucky's leading receiver on the season He has

How many yards? He has 30 catches for 348 yards. I love that that's a leading receiver. And he is the leading receiver. And it's important because he continues to, even though he's made this transition, he still, he caught, he caught, is this right?

Oh, no, no, no, this is just total, total number of catches. Excuse me, no, I was about to say something extremely wrong. That's the plausibility of us giving him an award for being a one-man banned. There's great precedent for this, by the way, right? Players who had to do everything, the Antoine Randall Ells of the world, who alternately from one year to another, the coach just said,

listen, we got nothing. You need to go out there and play DB. Okay, we really don't have anything. Can you do that? And return punts? Hey, I need my laundry done by Thursday. But there's a really stubborn stain. Like that, this guy, this guy has always existed in college football.

I think Joel Lannning at Iowa State was another example of this, a guy who was a quarterback and then became a linebacker and then sometimes also played fullback. Yeah. Unc, didn't it? UNC have a, oh, the UNC had a quarterback who converted to linebacker this year. And it's pretty good at it.

Yeah. Athletes will athlete. So those were the 10 most submitted by, the 10, I would say, are qualified. most submitted by podcast readers. I have added Kennesaw State's fullback, who is almost certainly a future pro wrestler. Ryan, did you have anyone else to nominate?

No, I'm happy with this list. Spencer, are you prepared to reveal the 2019 BVP Award winner? Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and do a couple of secondary nominations before we get to the really... Look at him. Look at him. After this commercial break. Zavian Valaday at Wyoming, thousand-yard rusher for them also one of the few players to have a name that starts with x right

there's a couple of zaviers but not many zabians he's and had a thousand-yard season he's been really really good for the cowboys i would also nominate piano plan john legend singing an extremely old miss like moss old miss of of moss old miss players john rice plumley of old miss who as far as i can tell is just kind of a future attorney with a really good 40 time just running around and having fun back there but he's majoring in engineering yeah so okay there we go he's gonna be just a piano playing engineer who's got to have some stuff on his phone that's really going to shock his co-workers like you that was you yeah man that's me out there forcing joe burrow to just keep racking up T.Ds, like Joe Burrow threw five TDs against Old Miss

because John Rice Plumley and the rest of the sort of bullshit Old Miss offense was just out there going, hey, I don't know. We're still time on the clock, y'all. Let's play tag. Yeah, so I would nominate those two. And then did I forget anyone on the QB side? I don't think, I don't think this year we have anybody who's particularly notable outside of our beloved Cole McDonald

because there's nobody. Oh, Jorge Raina. Jorge Raina for Fresno State. This is pulling from our group of five teams. But Jorge Raina, man, go watch him. He's just fun. He throws a pick and he's like, yeah, there's more coming. It's all good.

I got plenty more where that came from, man. They just keep making these. It's crazy. But he's also really good. I would like to think. I don't think he deserves, I don't think it's quite fitting of this award, but Bonix opening and closing the season

with just like season ruiners. for two big name teams is pretty fucking great it's pretty great but bo knicks who so i know i'm getting senile i have called him his father all season long i cannot type oh nix i just type patrick nix every single time so thank you for making me fear the reapers sigh on the back of my neck just feeling it's cold all right so who's your winner who's the winner uh the winner i'm going to go ahead and say this, that sometimes the BVP celebrates character over skill and talent. And then sometimes it salutes the person who has all of those things and is in a situation so extreme, so desperate, and yet lives up to all of that. This is the, like, you

survived in the woods for how long? It's interesting, you mentioned the woods. Because this is the state with a lot of them. They're very dark and they're very terrifying. And some people, some people might not make it out of them. Some people might see the adversities of a Kentucky football season as the inescapable. And Lynn Bowden, Lynn Bowden, whatever position he plays, dang it. Lynn Bowden is this year's BVP award because if we told Lynn Bowden right now that he was going to have to play safety in addition to all of this in the bowl game, not a single moment of hesitation right none no you're right no i've been lind bowden for being the the most bbp award winner in addition to uh in addition to being an outstanding player on a team that will not get enough

shine for what they have done this year with absolutely no quarterback whatsoever with a relatively hopeless situation offensively, yeah, and still beat rival Louisville, beat the pants off of them. He threw two passes in that game. Beautiful. How many points did they win by? Like 30.

They won by 32 points, and they completed two passes. Oh, no, no, no. They attempted to. They completed one. Perfect. Even better. And got him, like, honestly, without Lynn Bowden, like this is a seven and five team without Lynn Bowden. I mean, they don't make a bowl. They don't make a bowl.

Because if you look at their record by the time he became like the starter starter, they're sitting on two and three still facing the teeth of the schedule. And they got wins against Mizzou, Louisville, as you mentioned, tuned up Vanderbilt. And those were games that weren't necessarily like, oh, yeah, they're definitely going to win those. So, yeah. No, just please remember, get your perspective right when you think. about those things. Oh, they just beat Fandy. Yeah, they're Kentucky. Yeah. Yeah, they're still

Kentucky. Maybe y'all got spoiled by a citrus bowl trip, but this is still Kentucky. If you can power Kentucky to a mid-tier SEC bowl, you have done a good job. A real live source for Lynn Bowden, you are the 2019 Bradley Van Pelt Award winner. Congratulations. There's no trophy. There is no prize. there are no plot. It's only the knowledge that you are indeed a most college football player. I'm happy about that decision, by the way. I don't feel like I had to be like a dick. You'd go, well, these are nice, but I'm going to pick somebody else.

No, that's the right call, y'all. The people, as always, are correct. I love that because we did not rig it so that Spencer's choice would be number one in the voting, obviously. But if it came down to it, it could have been a French Revolution type situation where it's like, the people have risen oh no you know like like a lot of risen like a lot of revolutions the people have chosen the thing that i have chosen how wise of them and you can hear them united behind me in the distance far far below me um also wanted to i think that i think lynn's a great choice by the way by the by the by the way is there anything more like is there anything more people's choice

and People's College Football Award than Lynn Bowden being the only means of production for the Kentucky football team. He was them and he seized the opportunity and himself. He's kind of a monopoly, though. You know, comsi, come so. Say it the way you will. Also wanted to hand out a couple others.

These are newer categories for the BVP as its awards suite expands. There are now three college football awards, in fact. Can I run through a top 10 from the public balloting of coaches who best fit the BVP ethos? Go for it. Well, in the interest of time, we'll let you do your run through and then we'll break it down. Yeah. So tied at the bottom are Nick Rolovich, Matt Ruhl and Mike Leach, a bizarre group.

Up next, Lovie Smith, climbing higher. Herm Edwards. Did we do this before the Northwestern game? No, this was done days ago. Okay, all right, all right. Go ahead. Sorry. at number five friend of the program charlotte show attendee will healy who also hosts

dance parties after every charlotte win number four i imagine his stock soared in the past week or so gus malzon number three hardly a surprise here p j fleck number two hugh freeze uh with many comments noting that he was boosted by some at some points literally by various vehicles and apparatuses throughout Liberty's football stadium. And number one, coach Ed Ogeron. This is tricky. I'm going to take, I'm going to take, I'm going to take O out because, because that's this LSU, they're pretty much, I think, going to be the best LSU team full time.

Yeah, it's, it's like way too, way too obvious and not quite as, not quite as singular as I think. I mean, it's singular in the like Excelsior tier college football performance sense, but I don't think it's singular in a BVP award sense. There is one name I'm surprised, unless I miss it, is not on this list. And that's Mac Brown. He got a few mentions. He would have been in the very next tier, I think.

He was tied with Tom Herman, if I recall. Because like, and you know, I don't want to belabor it, but UNC had one of, I think, the most interesting football years they opened the year beating South Carolina they beat Miami

they lost to App State they were the only team really to give Clemson anything resembling a challenge so far they lost the first ever overtime two point shootout yep

they clobbered NC State at the end of the year where the winner was going to a bowl and the loser was not they have like a surprisingly as six and six seasons go this is one that has a lot

to it I think to me the thing with Mac is if we're talking about college footballness and 2019ness you know like it was an interesting season but I think him in him in particular I think we needed to see some more quips

some quotes sure maybe maybe his pants fall down maybe we see Mac Brown's butt clearly that would have boosted him a little bit Okay, that's fair. All right. After all, he should have gotten on the wave because it's the year, the exposed cheeks. Yeah.

PJ Fleck is obviously an interesting choice here. The custom fashion, Minnesota's season. I feel like he didn't say that much crazy shit, though. No, he kept it pretty low profile. You can see him kind of maybe toning down the crazy a little bit so that he can get the next gig, right? Right. Yeah. I think there's a little bit of that going on.

Okay. right so i think that's that which leaves us with who jason let's review that again if we're taking out oh brown and fleck and leech take leach off there too uh so well so your top three at that point would be freeze malzahn and our good friend will healy wow and roll it followed by herman lovey and yeah and rolovitch rule yeah i'm like you know what i'm gonna go ahead and do this they're nine and four he's an alum they've had to do a lot of stuff just to get noticed and play at midnight. I'm going to go ahead and throw my hat in for Nicarolevich, sure. Okay. It's really hard not to pick Lovie. It really is hard.

It really is hard. I mean, he's coaching in hell, and he's thrilled to do it. I mean, here's the giant, a giant beard. The thing that makes it so special is the end. They have a bowl game, whatever, whatever. But the fact that Illinois goes on this, like, very impressive tear where they show like the program is turning around. They have the big win against Wisconsin. Things are going in the right direction. And then that Northwestern game is just like just in case you were feeling too good. Just in case you were too on board, here is the biggest turd we can

drop. A 19 point loss to a very bad Northwestern team. The only conference win for Northwestern this year. Also, the committee did note Illinois is a quality loss for Wisconsin. Okay, that seals it. It's lovely. It's lovey. That's it. I think Illinois should hang a fucking plaque for that. Hang it. To me,

Osirond, like, LSU is awesome. But could this man exist in any other sport, at any other level of football, in any other line of work? I mean, that is an argument in his favor. I'll give you that. But he's also at the, like, home of a Ferrari, which to me is, you know, he's driving the, he's driving the good boat, man.

He's driving that big, he's driving that big airboat. There's a big ass boat. Is there any reason we can't share the award? Can we get it to O and Lovey? We can do whatever we want. So I, I'm not the final say on this. Spencer is. Yeah, I agree. Hugh Freeze. This is the most college football man alive. This man embodies everything shitty, scumbaggy, awful fake about our sport. It does not matter whether he's doing it on purpose or not. Every single thing he does is the funniest thing in the world. He provided us the absolute most memorable image of the entire season by being a bullshitter. I honestly don't see how it could be anybody but he free. He searches, he searches his mentions on Twitter too, which, you know, so this is my one argument. He's trying to change.

jobs right now he's gonna he's gonna listen to this and thank us for it and we'll feel weird that's hilarious that's what i'm saying thank you for the everything he does is funny thank you for the bradley santa belt award the other i had one more nomination the resume's very short but it's very how's this it the resume is very narrow but that narrow plot of land has a skyscraper on it And that point of data that I'm going to give you, Nunzio may turn the whole tide here. He went five and seven in his first year at Colorado. But at one point, Colorado's Mel Tucker coached in shorts.

In Colorado. Yeah. This may make him the leader for next year's award. He's definitely on the watch list for sure. He's on the watch list for next year based on coaching in shorts alone. Shorts, yeah. Based on we're watching those calves. they were popping man absolutely popping um okay here's where i stand ultimately it's up to spencer i think

we should either split it between oh and lovey or give it to hugh freeze i don't i don't i cannot in good conscience suggest that we pair hugh frie's with someone and create a weird orgy situation yeah no i don't like i don't like the trend that giving hugh freeze the inaugural bvp coaching award couldn't start. That's fair. That's fair. Right? Because like by year five, it'll be like, yeah, that's the guy I was selling players organs for money. It's more college football than that. Also, that will be Hugh Freeze. So, but he was very sorry. He said he was very sorry. The Lord told me to make fishes and loaves. So I sold a kidney. I'm going to give it to, you know what, I feel good about this. I felt great about Lynn Bowden. And I think the warmth in the

heart is the thing that I have to use as the indicator that this is the correct choice. And when I say his name as the winner, it will make me feel said warmth. I think the Moses of Champaign with his prophetic beard, I think Lovie Smith getting the lion eye to a bowl game. You, sir, even with your NFL bones, you get the inaugural BVP coach of the year award. Great. I love it. He overcame being an NFL coach.

That is impressive. That is impressive. And being in Illinois, like the minute you cross that state line, you're 80% less powerful. We are hesitant to associate this award with players who are too good at the NFL, right? Who might go to the NFL. Levy has already been there. He's already won a conference in the NFL. And he overcame that.

And he did it with Rex Grossman, God damn it. Also. Another extremely BVP guy. Another super BVP. God damn, let's give him like three retroactive BVP. Awards. Rex Grossman. Every year he was at Florida, BVP Award winner. Can I also give you this. Lovey, strong accent came. He's got that like muscle shoals lilt. Fantastic. So he gets like an extra couple of like I give accent, you know, PowerPoints anyway. Great accent. Lovie. Like just

icing on the cake of a fantastic DVP resume. I like it. So you got you got the visuals with the beard. You got the audio with the accent. You got the accomplishments makes everyone feel good. It's a good choice. Where do you have Illinois going to a bowl game, Jason? They're pretty much locked into, it'll depend on Wisconsin, but it'll be either the Quick Lane or the Red Box. Sorry. Sorry to bring everyone down. Hey, bowl game, bowl game. That's what you do to know. Yeah, focus on the ball part. Also, Lovey was tied into one of my favorite, one more thing. Lovey was tied into one of my favorite moments of the year, which was this, which was the play by or the color guy for Illinois when

they upset Michigan State, correct? When they upset Michigan State, the color got just for a solid 30 seconds said, Let's go! Over and over and over again. Oh, beauty. Okay, I'm sorry. No, that was merited. We needed one more, let's go for this season.

Game of the year, obviously a ton of nominations. I narrowed it down to a top eight. go in reverse order of most frequently selected. The first one, FIU, Miami. Oh, wow. Very beloved by our listeners. Here's the thing. None of us actually watched this game.

We just realized it happened after the fact. No, no, no, no. Watched it. I think we also have the last like three minutes. Okay, all right, all right. Don't, don't judge me. Don't tell me what trash I will and won't eat. Actually, I watch every FIU game.

What do you talk about? I watch every football game at Marlins Park. Thank you. I don't want you. don't want you to know that but it's there number seven south carolina georgia a game that as we speak has georgia uh not already clinching a playoff spot if not for this game the cc title game would be all just about seating and that's it as it is georgia might miss the playoff because of south carolina god next uh ls u alabama made the top six that's pretty good it's been a while

heat number five has been in has been up here a long time Arizona Hawaii we discussed this a bit during Nicole McDonald's section number four SMU Memphis prime time one of the best prime timers of the year number three strongly

number three truly an all time game Alex did a really good post about this one UCLA Washington State arguably the greatest comeback in in football history number two for a billion obvious reasons the egg bowl and number one for a billion obvious reasons the iron bowl it's difficult it's very very difficult because the temptation for me is to give it to an

Arizona Hawaii game that took that took place but week it won't it's not I mean I think that if I'm correct here the thing we're trying to circle here is what is the game that you will remember six months a year from now, right? And be like, oh, that game was fire, right? Yeah. And it's not, I don't think it's that Arizona-Hawaii game, in part because, like, boy, Arizona just ended up being sad. Yeah, yeah, they ended up being kind of sad.

I would also. I bet if we went back and re-watch this game, we'd be like, wow, Hawaii's lucky that they, they really let Arizona hang in too long to this game. Yeah, so we can't do that one. And I feel like doing the Iron Bowl is, you know, I have a strong case for the Iron Bowl and a strong case against it. My case against is weaker. The case against is that this is a classic rivalry and that this is typically like a lot of things that happen in this game are hallmarks of said rivalry. And everyone knew that these two teams are going to be pretty good, as opposed to something like the Egg Bowl, which is a rock fight between two starving chickens, right?

Like that's... Who hate these rocks! Hate these rocks so much. And that was decided on, of all things, spite. That's what decided this game was... I think I would also say, I would vote against the Iron Bowl because it is... I think it sucks that to get there, you have to say, oh, right, but Tua suffered this horrific injury. Yeah.

And that's what made it... At least in theory, that's what made it possible. Yeah. So I would go ahead, if I'm leaning, I'm going to lean egg bowl. Wow. It's very hard for me to walk away from LSU Bama. It really is because it had like, it was, it had so much from start to finish. It was just chock full of good shit, including LSU doing their best to make it interesting at the end by allowing that huge.

I was, I was good. I'm glad you said that because I thought the same thing about. okay well how college is this game right like yeah because these are skilled players at elite schools and they're not going to make huge interesting mistakes okay how about to a fumbled for no reason also lsu had a 4634 lead with under two minutes left and then gave up uh an 85 yard touchdown pass to Devante Smith with a minute 21 to left. Yeah. I am, I am, I am, I am biased towards, towards LSU Bama because in so many respects,

it was the exact, it was setting up for the exact storyline of the, this will be the worst LSU loss you can remember as an LSU fan. This will be the one that hurts the most, that feels the most painful. And it didn't go that way. I think for me the egg bowl like that's my favorite moment of the year but I think as a game as someone who watched the whole thing

it was fun for that one moment everything else was bad which is the point of the egg bowl to be clear that's what you want out of an egg bowl but it's basically like it's basically like yeah I ate everything on the buffet it all sucked and I feel kind of nauseating and then I went over to the ice cream machine and I hit the lever and all of a sudden bloods are

pouring out of it. The egg bowl is the like if you can eat this eight pound burger you get your photo on the wall and the blast the peeing penalty that was the photo. That's like here you are, you did it. Ignore the eight pounds of ground beef sitting in your stomach. The egg bowl is the lion's

Thanksgiving game if anyone cared about it. UCLA Wazoo man that must be considered like that is it's one of the most unique games ever like it's fine if it doesn't win but it must be considered to me the iron bolt ryan you raise a good point that we don't you know two us injury that's certainly what factored into things here um to me the way auburn won this game you could put anyone a quarterback for alabama and auburn was going to win this game and like

mac jose played pretty well you know one of the one of the pick sixes was really i don't know how you could argue it was entirely his fault um so like if toa had played code auburn of one i mean based on what happened in the game put anyone at quarterback i mean wazoo ucla like consider this anthony gordon through nine t's and lost it's pretty good um i will also say memphis smu might have been one of the most fun games of the year Yes. Also, particularly because it came in that lull in the season, that natural lull. And because due to big nude Saturday, the schedule kind of, to some extent, in some weeks, abandoned prime time. And it was like, you know what, let's give prime time to two teams who never get prime time and let them put on a show.

And they did. And that was game day went to Memphis for that game, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, they had wrestlers there. Yeah. So, like, the fact that Game Day showed up and Memphis SMU showed out like that, that's. That's impressive. I mean, that is impressive. I have one other point in favor.

I mean, ultimately, you're going to get to make the decisions. Yeah. And I like to go ahead and just lay out all of the... Remember, he's pretending to bring us into the process. Yeah, that's right. As a benevolent... As all good leaders do. As a benevolent dictator, he's...

Let a thousand flowers bloom, my friends. What harm could come of any of that? I have one other piece of evidence in favor of UCLA Wazoo. I believe it kicked at 10.30 Eastern Time. Beautiful. Yeah. So with that, I really appreciate all the input from the People's Congress. I appreciate that the proletariat have made their views known through me.

They're impartial, like, loudspeaker. I'm going to go ahead. They're hairy oracle. That's right. I didn't ask for these powers I was just granted them so those are all very nice ideas you have about LSU

and about all these big marquee games and I'm very happy for SMU Memphis but a 6763 matchup that didn't really conclude until well past three in the morning that featured a quarterback who threw nine touchdowns and lost

and featured an end game which was as chaotic and screwed up and as entertaining as one can possibly imagine a game where the final, the final like drive chart, if you're looking at it, goes like this. Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, fumble, end of game. Yeah, I'm going to give it to UCLA Wazzo, especially because neither team's really playing for anything now.

Yeah, this is definitely the one that taught us the least about anything. involving the two teams. It's like, oh, is this a sign of good things to come for UCLA? No, not at all. Chips finally got an offense, finally got a quarter. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, because what happened the week after that epic win? They lost 2017 to Arizona.

Oh, God. Yeah, yeah, man. Let me also run through real quick, lightning around. A few others in the general grab bag. that I think we can go give you some sort of token certificate Houston for redshirting itself that's pretty cool that's weird it's very strange I like I like that because Houston's like hey don't pay attention now but some weird shit's gonna happen in six

months football's stressful take a break Dan Deirdorf of course whoever put this in the sheet said for most college football announcer sure agree Mark Ricked on the ACC network incredible debut season for our, for our beloved youth pastor. Made a sandwich on television. Or, I'm sorry, didn't make, make it showed you how to eat a sandwich officially on television. Had a heart attack and showed up to work the next day. That's right.

Cram and cheese doodles the entire time. The ACC Coastal for completing the long play, we swore all along that getting to four and four and one season was the thing. No, this was a seven year plot. Yeah. They got seven different teams to win the division and none of them have won the conference yet. is incredible. Ralphie the 5th for saying,

I'm done, that's it. I'm out. The Sooner Schooner for saying the same. Oh my God. Imagine the sooner schooner pulled by two Ralphies. Jesus Christ. It would go into orbit. That would be like the sieve weapon that they're like,

now we had to take this out of the game. It's too powerful. The giant death spison. Screw you, Skyrim. Lots and lots of people. people put on for various big 10 things, such as Rutgers's coaching search, Northwestern's passing offense, and a lot of people mention this. Maryland scoring 142 points in the first two games, and then about that much for the entire rest of the season. Just Maryland and Houston

over there going, I think we've proved what we came here to prove. I believe we've made ourselves clear. Colorado with the greatest flea flicker of all time, Alex did a good post on this as well. And finally, the last three ones, somewhat friends of the program. Hashtag nine, Windyana, still underway due to our friends at home field. Charlotte's Bowl eligibility, as mentioned. And the NAA Friends Falcons, which many people associate with Banner Society's slack on Saturdays. It's one of the funest things we do. Lots and lots of you shouted this out for a BVP certificate.

And thank you. Please, please keep joining us. we will continue to pay attention to our N-A-I-A Falcons, as their season is long done because they're not very good. But they are our friends and your friends and you are our friends. I don't think I realized exactly how long it had been since Indiana won nine games. Do either of you know? I do.

I think I have a guess. Okay. Is it 1993? Okay. That's your guess. Jason, you can throw one in if you want. It's not that. it's way older.

No, if it's not that, I think they won nine games in 87. So in 93, they finished eight and four. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that included a bowl game loss. So there was no way they were going to get to eight either way. In 87 and 88, they both won eight games. The last time Indiana won nine games, and this included a bowl game loss, so these are all regular season wins, 1967, where they finish the year fourth in the A-P pole.

This is proof, by the way, that Indiana is only successful when it benefits America in a time of universal harmony. So this Indiana team went to the Rose Bowl and lost the USC 14 to 3. The MVP of that game, Ornthal James Simpson. not a BVP award winner.