Shutdown Fullcast - The International Dateline Episode

Episode Date: July 17, 2024

Spencer is back, despite his own best efforts, and he brought a number of promising Mongolian business ideas Find out which Khan was “the party Khan” Examining Ryan’s place on the Snake Kinsey Scale Two words: “Mouse arbitrage” Rest of the episode is pretty much all basking in the return of the game? At the time of taping, the game has been out for about 22 hours, and between the four of us we are averaging four hours of gameplay How the game is turning us into cro-mag ball coaches Jason leaves Texas in a pine box How the game could portend a record-low season of disciplinary issues nationwide We’ve all got one complaint about the game so far and we bet you’ve got the same one Basking in our place in the game universe An extended inadvertent Split Zone Duo ad This week's theme song arranged and performed by Wes Hunt Tickets still available for our festival show in Raleigh! More info here: https://www.etix.com/ticket/p/41961499/the-sports-podcast-festival-raleigh-the-rialto Freshly on sale: tickets for our show at Furnace Fest in Birmingham! https://www.seetickets.us/event/shutdown-fullcast-live/603983 Follow Jason's work and upcoming book-related appearances on Vacation Bible School, Shutdown Fullbooks, and elsewhere at jasonkirk.fyi Find Holly and Spencer writing and chirping at channel-6.ghost.io Listen to Ryan's other, less harrowing podcast, We're Not All Like This, and check out his new project at assigned.substack.com  Purchase only the finest Fullcast gear at sunny preownedairboats.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Um, hi. Hey, buddy. How'd that go? What's going on? Wait, what do you guys been doing? What day is it? Yep, that's question one. Uh, it is a Tuesday.

Somewhere in the middle of July. Okay. Context clues. What day is it in Mongolia? Oh, no. It's a great question, Ryan. It should be, if I have this correct, it should be Wednesday, July 17th, 2.14 a.m. okay so you're back from the future i am back jason i'm really glad you said it like that

spencer you nailed it i did great job you nailed it this time i did this time yeah how was your trip to mongolia it's great let's talk let's talk about the international date line spencer what's the international date line i wasn't even going to ask so the way that time zones are are built it turns out that it turns out it turns out that at one point you have to sort of you know advanced time forward in order to keep everything in balance. So starting with Greenwich Mean Time, if you're listing things off, eventually you hit a point where you either go to 13 o'clock or you go to the next day. Basically, we have to decide that there's a point, and it's the international date line.

And it's kind of like right in the middle of the Pacific. And I don't understand how it works. This is all laid out in the documentary, The Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask. This is all explained by how. Hull Cogan, who said he once wrestled 400 times in a single year, thanks to crossing this dateline. I'm not going to make fun of him because I have a similar understanding of the international dateline.

Let's talk about how the rest of us came to be aware of this understanding, which is when the day before your departure from Mongolia, you called me to ask if I could run a specific errand for you because you had told, you had told the story. subject of this errand that I don't want to make anybody, I don't drag anybody else's life into this. You told the subject of this errand that you were going to be back on the wrong day. Monday, yeah. You're going to be back on Monday.

And I'm expressing increasing confusion throughout this conversation because you're going to be back on Sunday. That's right. And I said, Spencer, you're going to be back on Sunday. Why do you need me to do this for you on Monday? Yep. And you said, well, the international date line. Sure.

I said, Spencer, what's your flight number? And you said, you gave me your flight number, and I put it into the computer. And it said, returns, like 5.43 p.m. Sunday, July 14th. That's right. And I said, Spencer, this says you get back on Sunday. And Spencer goes, yeah, but the international date line. I did. Spencer, I'm pretty sure the airline return times are always written with the departure

and the arrival in the local time of their respective airports. And Spencer goes, no, but you see, you crossed the international date line. That's right. Yeah. So what ended up happening is you were so, and I will say this, you were so confident in holding up the, whatever your concept was of the international date line in front of you like an amulet. Yep. That I started to question my own grasp on both math and reality. Yep.

And we got on FaceTime from the Inshan Airport and finger counted through all of your flights and layovers to figure out that, no, it wasn't going to take you 60 hours. That's the closest I've ever come in real life to the dumbest boy alive threat. I was living. I thought I started to feel insane. And of course. Here's the thing, though, the international date line. Right. That's the thing that I've discovered.

If you just say it, this is an argument stopper because he used to, he said this four or five times on me, and I started to become unmoored from time. Spencer, can I ask a question? And I really ask this with any judgment. Yeah, please. Holly has walked this out with you over FaceTime, finger counting, etc. Oh, I had to finger count it. Yeah. I feel, I feel like you have accepted Holly's version of the world, but thank you. In full, in full honesty, is there some part of you, even if it's only 5% that's like, but the international date line that still thinks you were right?

Fucking better be. I currently have that part of me in a double chokehold. And you know what it's with both arms around its wind part. Yeah. And you know what it's doing? Right now it's going. I think it is such a, you know, the concept of thin places between this world and the spiritual realm. That is what the international dateline is, and I think we should not trifle it by trying to apply math to it. The international dayline is the astroplane. You lived in Asia. You lived in Asia for a year. Yeah, but you only have to go over once. The international dateline, and you return at a different time.

So, like, basically, you cross the international date line. It takes a day from you, like a cat sucking. breath from a baby soul. Perhaps. And then you go back across it and it returns the, it returns the day to you once you've answered its riddles three. Possibly. So, scientists haven't gotten that far.

If you could fly a plane fast enough. Oh, this is some Langalear shit. Could you travel forward or backwards in time at your own whim? By crossing the international date line. Holkogen. Hulkogen did that. Hulk Hogan did that, yeah. Okay.

When Superman flew so fast that the Earth spun backwards in that time ran backwards. This is why Barry Sanders was truly the fastest man to ever win the Heisman because he accepted it in Tokyo. In Tokyo, yeah. He was literally ahead of everyone else. Could this have saved the Pac-12? No, they tried that. They did the Australia. They did the Australia game.

Oh, Larry Scott, you wistral. It just made Stanford real sweepy. do you know that they're working on a time zone for the moon is it just orlando's so i can't tell if this is a bit this is not a bit this is the thing came up organically the other day how is it not orlando time well there are a few wrinkles one is that time does not move at the same speed well time moves at the same speed but a day is longer on the moon than it is on the earth i know the feeling it's got an international day line of its own. A day on the earth is 24 hours. A day on the moon is 29.53 hours. Yeah, Riptorn

covers this in Will and Will Smith's onboarding in Men and Black. No wonder Elon wants to go to space. You can get more hours per day out of working people. The other question they haven't figured out is whether the moon will have one time zone or multiple time zones, which would potentially create a lunar international date line. I think it should have 29. One for each hour? Huh. I guess that would work. Moon meridians. I mean, it's fair. We're creating moon meridians. I don't think it makes sense. What day is it on the moon, Spencer?

I'm going to guess that it is Tuesday on the moon. I have no idea. I have no idea. What time is it? Yeah. What time isn't on the moon? Wired has an article about this. See? I just give you the answer. That's when you know there's a problem. This is helpful. Look, I know Google's struggling right now, but the first question under people also

ask is, which day of moon is today? My new approach is to just forward documentation to people, and they're going to tell me what time it is. That's it. I'm just for a documentation, arrange for my own transport, and when I show up, I'll just ask everyone what day it is. So this is the reverse. You were coming back on the wrong day, right?

This is the reverse of taking a picture of you holding today's newspaper. This is you showing up. be like, give me today's newspaper. No, I just travel like, I travel like memento in real time. Do not trust this man. His love is real, but he is a dork. Yeah. I think it's good.

People like being experts, you know, and people like being consulted and like getting to show off their knowledge. So if the first thing they do is like explaining something to you, that's a great way to make friends. I didn't enjoy this at all. But that might be just habit. Well, I think it's because you underestimated the international date line. That's true.

That's true. so many have also because you're the rare ones that live to tell the tail the tail you know who I ask you know who I ask questions now that's right Genghis Khan on my keychain that's right the big ride I ride with the con now so what happens when you lose your keys is he offended yeah I die sorry he appreciates loyalty a real loyal soldier wouldn't lose the keychain of Genghis con I'm sure there's an answer in a Wikipedia that I don't want to look through here but why did we decide like how did we decide where to put the date line you could put it anywhere you could say like the international date line runs through Orlando for example well we determined that it

must be as confusing as possible in Indiana and Arizona that's the main thing okay so we should have put it in Kansas City probably that would have helped let's let's see if we can get that changed international date line Kansas City half the country is experiencing one day half the country is experiencing another oh my god this yeah Kansas City is already confusing enough this is fine yes that's the other good one which Kansas City who's to say can we somehow shove the cardinals

into the resulting abyss which one and then kind of seal it up behind them Arizona or St. Louis oh shit I don't baseball see the international dateland your your key chains those include keys that start cars yes so so not

horses, huh? Yes. Not horses. So, a bit of a showman. You've already offended the big man, I think. By the way, we just kind of agree on time zones. It's not like a matter of international law. We don't agree. I love it.

And the reason that it's in the middle is because, in the middle of the Pacific is because Isn't it there just because it's the opposite of Greenwich meantime? Well, it's not just that. Where we, what's where we discovered it? It's the fewest, there's the fewest land masses there. So I think they just put it out there because they were like, I'd be real confusing feds in the middle of Europe. They're like, nobody will go here.

That's the worst. That's the worst reason. It'd be much funnier if you lived somewhere where you'd be like, you could hop from one side to another, it would be like, Wednesday, Thursday, Wednesday, Thursday. Your boss is like, why are you late? I'm not. I'm not. I'm early.

I'm off today. Bye. If I go to this side. I'm leaving. Just standing across, stepping. across the line. Can't catch me. Nobody wants to work nowadays because nobody knows which day it is.

Because what is now a day? That's why it's nowadays and not now a day. You went country western with that. There was a little Elvis at the front. To the shutdown full cast. The blood red Kool-ed stains matching your shirt to your mouth is really, it's really making this. It's beautiful. It's like a dog's tongue.

Does that mean it's a corkscrew or is that a duck's penis? I miss y'all so much. I miss you too, big guy. We did not make any jokes about you dying, about you getting arrested. Like, we didn't wish you any ill intentionally or unintentionally. This whole time. This whole trip went completely normally until you were like halfway home. Yeah.

And even then it was pretty normal. It was just confusing for everybody else. How many, how many flights is that? It is, it was three on the way back. It was two on the way over. Well, four if you count the one to the capital, because you were out in the step, right? Well, I did take, and there were two flights in country from Ulaan Bataur to Hove.

So, yeah, a grand total of seven flights. Phew. And two international date lines. And two international date lines and a lovely nap I had to take on a stone bench at Inchon Airport because the nap room was full. Other than that. Yes. And the longest flights that you took did not have Wi-Fi, right? The Korean Air flights?

Yeah, no, I did not. not raw dog those flights. I know that that's a trend from two weeks ago, but I am coming from the past. I bring you news. I bring you news. No, future.

Well, I'm sorry. The future past. Wrong way again. Past future. I think at this point, the big surprise would be, I bring you news from right now. Yes.

I bring you news from Mongolia. That if you don't have Wi-Fi, you're going to watch a lot of shitty movies. some good some bad they average out to mediocre but i watched a couple of good movies and i watched a couple of bad movies but do you know what you can reach for whenever you're on a flight and things are going badly and you're like i'm a spontaneously combust in the seat that's how bored i am nope you know what you can do oceans 11 baby oh 100% yeah yeah i watch that money ball and i will tell you bro cinema got me through this flight just apply i applied nothing

I watched the Roundup series. We can recreate the international date line and the aggregate. Yeah, that's great. One hour at a time. How'd you know? I watched the Roundup series, the entire

roundup series, because it was Korean air, so they had nothing but a bunch of kick-ass Korean action movies. So I watched Maudeong Seyuk punch people so hard. They flew like through bus windows. If you don't know him, he's the stocky dude from Last Train to Busan on that beats the shit out of people.

That's all he does in the roundup, and he drops like witty lines, right? Like, your bus is here and punches people into the bus. Then he's like, your bus is leaving and he punches people out of the bus. I watch that. Listen, that's how you get through a long international flight. Someone will be like, you should meditate,

or maybe you should sleep. I can't sleep on planes. You know what I do? I watch Bro Cinema. Bro Cinema will get you through any international flight. that's that's honestly very good advice it was negative to say about it no it was absolutely beautiful

I think my favorite plane cinema move is watching one movie keeping an eye on the movie someone in front of me is watching and then rating them both on litter boxed I always like over the shoulders of people who have like decided to oh I don't know watch gravity

on a plane that sounds like fun do you think do you think it's weirder all right do you think it's weirder to watch something like gravity where it's like oh disaster that's, or like, flight or something where it's like disaster that's uncomfortably close to this, or to watch something heavily sexual. Like the time I, like the time I saw somebody watching, uh, uh,

I've seen somebody watch YouTube Mama Tambien on a plane. Okay, I saw someone watch the shape of water on a plane. Oh, she's going to fuck that fish. Right. So, yeah, the people behind you who don't know what that movie is are, uh, well, they're invested or covering their eyes one of the two yeah i had the choice of watching zone of interest a movie about the commandant at auschwitz and i instead immediately veered from that to watching oceans 11 because i did not like the idea of being trapped in my seat with that or someone else going

what the fuck is that dude i don't want to be that guy either i don't want somebody to look up and be like is that dude watching zone of interest there should be like there should be special cartridges that you can buy and plug into these plane seats that have like the collected works of Werner Herzog like I should be able to watch grizzly man on a plane unless you're unless you're like leaving home or like embarking or moving to a new place or something if it's like a big life moment you shouldn't have to have like feelings and thoughts on a plane no you should just be able to be like yeah it's gone in 60 seconds on a loop we're fucking rocking out over here That's him of the elephant.

That's awesome. I just saw like me watching Zone of Interest and like 40 minutes in looking over me and being like, ooh, Bim Bop! You know? That just felt wrong, right? Like, oh, delicious rice and beef. Why I would love, I would love another cup of juice. Thank you. Yeah.

It just felt wrong. Okay. Yeah. I assume that this is the fold of. port of your trip and there's nowhere else to find more about it um no you can find out all you want by what you did travel six that's right it's like you planned this we did you can go ahead and engage in this little bit of podcast business by subscribing to channel six where we have audio diaries and i'm working on an essay about my trip to see the nadam festival in mongolia where i scouted

some of the most, some of the stockiest and mightiest three-star fullbacks who are currently Mongolian wrestlers and other athletes at their summer festival of the manly arts. But yes, listen to the whole thing at Channel 6. Subscribe, link in bio. Probably. Probably. And additionally, you've been posting dispatches. Yes.

So it's more than just one post, folks. Folks, there's like eight of them. Yeah, there's a lot. I went there. Brian Phillips came along with me because sometimes you say, hey, I'll go to Mongolia with you for fun. And you get there, you're like, oh, my God, I'm in Mongolia for fun. That was a lot of fun.

It was great. I would respect it if you went all the way to Mongolia and came back and just wrote like a 400-word, straightforward blog post. That was it. You just like straight up record the results? Yeah. This guy won scoring this many points. What time is the Mongolian Super Bowl?

Actually, that's a great. What time is the Nodom Festival actually ended up being a great question? That would have been helpful. Because of the international team. No, nothing to do with Spencer. Spencer ran up on some international Spencer. Yeah, who said they were like, so we got to our campsite that was going to be the place before. There's a new political party that is just taking control in Mongolia.

I think is the only backdrop that you need to this. Yeah, and everybody wants to impress them. So everybody's inviting them to their various endoms and they're moving the dates around. So we got to our campsite, pitched a tent. It was like, yeah, there's going to be one in this town tomorrow. And by the time we were done pitching our tents, it was like, yeah, there's not going to be one. Not then. They're moving in a day.

Sorry, you got to go. So even the dates were sort of fluid, flexible. By the way, Mongolians do sort of function like I do. According to my guide, his wife just one day was like, hey, man, we should go out to the country. And he's like, okay, how about next week? And she's like, we're leaving tomorrow. So they just, they just packed everything in and went away for two weeks on like 24 hours notice. They just went out to the sticks and like camp for two weeks.

I was like, how did it go? And he's like, it was fine. It's fine. I was like, that's right. That's right. Also, really, somebody should open a bass pro shops in Ulaan Bator because it would be the most popular. Like, they buy so much camping gear. Like, holy shit.

Why not you? Why not me? You are the bridge between these two cultures. It was one of my two business ideas that I was assuming were going to be wildly successful. This one was the one from the United States to Mongolia, transfer, take the Bass Pro Shops franchise, bring it to Mongolia and call it like, you know, this would be the Genghis Khan store, right? Cond Bellas. Yes. Instead of a pyramid, it's one of those huts.

Yeah. Right. It would be a yurt. A yurt. Conbellas is very good. I just wanted to go back and It took me a second. It's really good.

I do want to know if there are Burger King knockoffs there called BurgerCon. No, there are con everything else. There's a con bank. There's a con Irish pub. That's my favorite one. O'Con. The Grand Con Irish Pub. Yes, Tatee's like they disliked them.

Tell me more about the con Irish pub. It is. Oh, it's like a, it's a huge like long time standard of, Ulan Batoor nightlife and bar culture. It is just a big-ass Irish pub that has like a 30-page menu where you're like I would like a traditional Mongolian Herschore, right? Like a meat pie.

And then two pages later, it's like, would you like filet mignon? And then two pages later, it's like, would you like Chinese food? It's a massive menu. It's not like the CheeseCon Factory. There we go. It is. Kubla Khan himself, bless this cheesecake. and on this plate we have

on our table we have an entire golden hoard of meals oh golden corral that's what it's named for a pint so big it would stagger ogadai con himself yes ogadikon by the way

if you want the con who wants to party it's ogadai con ogadikon was the guy who got so fat he couldn't get on one of their horses ogadai con drank so much that he built a peacock like a peacock fountain made of gold and jewels

that dispensed booze like 24-7 like it just you just walked in and like filled your mug with wine from this thing I bet they have that at Fanatics headquarters frankly they probably do

I bet the wine sucks too it used to be good but now this tastes like shit Fanatics baby that's the magic why is this wine misspelled The label's off kilter

That's the magic How does wine taste this spell I'm so fucking drunk I can see through baseball players' pants Can't wait until they get a hold of everybody And I'm like I can't wait to get my Florida Ro tag shirt

That's great Rotags There's that The other business idea I had was They make Genghis Khan beer In Mongols and Brian and I were kind of like throwing back pitches for this and his pitch was very like we have an atmospheric ad right like we have like we make this like a luxury brand where you know there's like a distant step in the smoke and the rain and then you see a horseman appear and it's like gangas con beer meanwhile I was like no man take it lower we need to get everybody at like everybody at tailgates be like woo I'm riding with con you can you can look hey man I want some beer we don't know I got cons in low

Laces. Exactly. I'll be like, my baby, want some jeans and she wants the con. Thank God I'm a country boy. Now that the entire internet has moved on to

biting our habit of using AI to write country songs, we have to shift our own songwriting window. So this is, this is just our next platform. Listen, we did it before it was destroying the power grid. Okay. You know, we did it before it was destroying the power grid, but I got to say the one about drunk driving is really good.

I will give it to them. We did it when we didn't know it was AI, you know? It was like, we were like, oh, this is just, this, this website does words and it's funny. So it was, it was fine that we did it. The only thing riding with the con is going to destroy is an ancient Persian empire. And maybe your bad times. because when you ride with the con it's nothing but good times

at the very least this is a light of T-shirts that you could sell for shit Rattin with the con Well like those animal Remember those animal shirts where things burst out of the The fabric of the shirt like a deer antlers But it's just a bunch of dudes on horses

And their spears are tearing the shirt apart Holly we're going to make Thank God I'm a country boy Yeah yeah that's happening We're going to figure that out Wait can that be is that the key missing piece to the wild hearts can't be broken design maybe it is just like thank god i'm a country girl thank god i'm a country got horse in the stable and horse

on the griddle yeah delicious delicious i ate some horses i ate some horses trip it's fine gotta lose your head if you're in the middle thank god i'm a country boy just blood curdling screams in the back Um, I'm sure we have more podcasts. I know we have more podcast business to get to, but we're not going to do more podcast business

because I have an important, important update from the fine city of Nashville. Oh, no. This is the subject line and the email preview of a next door email I received. On principle, I don't open next door emails. So I'm not going to give you. I'm not going to give you any more detail than what this says. Subject, goodbye Nashville, exclamation point. Preview.

After 10 years of being your snake lady, that's snake and lady both capitalized at the front. I am so incredibly sad to set and end, end of preview. you. After 10 years of being your snake lady, I am so incredibly sad to set the end. I'm kind of glad you didn't open that, both for normal next door safety reasons and also because there's nothing that could possibly live up to my imagination right now. No. I, look, I hope I get inundated with people from Nashville who are like, snake lady, that's this, that. How do you not know about snake lady? But like, frankly, if we've had a snake lady here for 10 years and nobody has,

has told me about like that is on you she's not really your snake lady is she no i didn't i don't remember voting for snake lady i mean she might be such a part of the tapestry of your day to day life that you take her for granted ryan it it seems that i have because after 10 years of being my snake lady she's incredibly sad to say yeah she should be yeah i don't want to i don't want to get derailed too much into talk of the video game um when i know not everybody's had a chance to jump in yet but does this have anything to do with both snake rattle and roll and cobra triangle dropping for nintendo switch online wow that is a game that i have not thought about in a long long time unclear data data needed is that why she's

snake lady maybe who's to say yeah here's my question if you have to guess her is her watch finished now that these games are returned to us do you think snake lady owns snakes catches snakes or does snake things but is not involved with snakes whatsoever. Oh, Jason's waving me off. I hate all these bitches good. She is a snake. She is a snake. Is she half snake, half woman or just snake?

No, I didn't see a hyphen in there. Got you. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Hollywood, keen editor's eyes always. Super R type is also in one of the Switch Online bundles. That's got a big old snake in it. Snake lady is not super my type. I got to tell you.

How do you know? I just you know you check in every now again again you try to say walking to that bar you're like look at that thing with no arms where am I on the snake Kinsey scale and right now it's zero I gotta tell you no comment is it's raining in Georgia that never happens the Kinznake sale yeah it's getting real dark here it hasn't rained in like a month yeah if only there were a song about this It's called raining in Baltimore. Rainy Night and Moron.

That's the Mongolian version. Is that rainy night of morons? There's a town called Moron. There's a town called Moron, Mongolia, yeah. There's a moron in the book of Mormon, if I recall correctly. Moronai, yeah. It's an angel. The angel Maronai, M-R-O-N-I.

No, it's straight up Moron. There's a moron as well? Moron is the name of a location and a king in the book of Ether, in the book of Mormon. Oh, because there's also an angel maronai in the latter day scene. Moron is described as doing that which was wicked before the Lord. What a fucking idiot. I guess that's why you got that name.

Classic moron. What's his name, Joe? Moron. King moron. Like a fucking king moron over here. Comes on from where Connie, they said I'm king. This is the overlap between Joseph Smith and Hideo Kojima. That's where they mean.

What's his... This guy likes to fight. What's his name? Dave Fightman. And Dale Coach him is like, that's brilliant. So brilliant. He's one of the U.S.'s highest power brokers. President Fightman.

The battlefield is his home. Soldiers have no home, though. We're walking to Utah. With a baby strapped to our chest. So please tell me more about Snank Lady. I need to know. That's, I, that is it? Wait, is it solid snake lady?

If you want, I will click, like, if it's for the good of the show, I will click on, I will click on the scene. For the good of the show, listen, you rolled out snake ladies in trees. Okay, okay. All right. I need to know more. Okay. I accept full responsibility if this makes all of all of our lives worse. That goes for the entire forecast, by the way.

Okay. Goodbye, Nashville. After 10 years of being your snake. lady i am so incredibly sad to say i'm leaving and moving cross country i'll miss you all we're moving on monday morning today we're having a yard sale at a friend's house stop by address if you want some fun stuff for under a dollar and then there's just like her vending cat it unclear so what i'm not going to do is i'm not going to google any of this that was all the information she wanted to provide It does not provide any other information whatsoever at all.

I'm just going to sit with this information. So, like, I think it's entirely possible that Jason is right, and this is a snake living as a woman in Nashville, well, soon to be across country. Yeah, not Nashville, but everything else is correct. And her stuff is cheap, so. stay lady yeah

be like look dead mice under a dollar under a dollar yeah she's leaving she doesn't need them all especially you're saying that with the red

Kool-Aid I need mice blood maw I mean come on come on this this face usually indicates I need mice I like I like imagining we get to the end of the air and Spencer's meeting with his accountant and his accountant's like, okay, I see you didn't make any contributions to your IRA.

This year he's like, aha, but thousands of dead mice. That's what I've acquired instead. When I flip those. Flip these mice. Flip these mice. Wow. It's really close. It's mouse. It's mouse. flipping. Yeah, you laugh, but the past 20 years of the American economy has basically been, hey, but when I flip this, I think if you can tent your fingers just so and go on TikTok and say mouse arbitrage, you could probably turn this into a side hustle.

What are founders thinking about mouse arbitrage? What are founders thinking about rodent exchange? You need to stop thinking about. I'm thinking, yeah, you need to stop ratting on your friends and think about your friends who are rats. That's what you need to do. Wow. Wow. So powerful.

So powerful. So LinkedIn, 458, like. Which that's everyone on LinkedIn. That's a pretty good post. So can I cut to the game now? Because I have questions. You're going to cut to the feeling? I'm going to cut to the feeling.

Oh, that's cute. Can I tell you what's, can I tell you what's weird to have on your? to-do list for the week. Like, buy a PlayStation. Laundry, laundry, grocery run, buy a PlayStation. I thought, I thought you're going to say go to the Carly Ray Jepson concert after the Nats play the Reds this Friday, which is a real thing. Seeing as we're cutting to the feeling. Yeah.

That would be weird. It is weird to have, it is weirder, though, to have buy a PS5 like it's a grocery item, right? Like, eggs, milk, family necessity, PS5. Candles. Can't, please help my family. Mouses. Mice. My family is dying.

Someone help me. Listen, that's an investment, not a luxury good. Yeah. By as many as you can. It has better original games. Mouse? Mouse? Yeah, mouse does.

What? we're getting way off track here this is PlayStation versus Xbox is what we're saying there Holly how did what did you acquire a PlayStation 5 oh no I'm saying it's it's a fun thing to have on the to do list oh okay oh so it will happen okay yeah and I have not I have not jumped in yet yeah I still need one

because I just got back and realized that you're like oh man I want to play that game oh no I saw I saw a guy it was one of the best series of quote tweets I've ever seen a guy who was like a guy who was like hey did they make the new

NCAA game for last gen and the quote tweets are all like Terrence Howard looking at Tate Diggs and going do you need some money there was so much like genuine affection and concern in that thread like I felt like the dunk ratio was

fairly low and it was all people like man are you okay that's probably any there's probably an eBay scam going on right now where people are purporting to sell PS4 compatible NCAA 25 oh shit we should have done that yeah damn it a lot of people don't call our money in a mice yeah well it's dead yet no i'm sorry rodent arbitrage that's just when you put mice in the freezer yes cryptoferency ah yeah god damn it you two haven't played it i haven't played it j Jason, have you played the game?

So, I would say that we, the four of us, have averaged about three or four hours of playing. So in a way, us not playing the game is really doing you a great service. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you make me sound normal. Thank you. As of recording, Jason, by the way, has had the game in his hands for less than 24 hours. Meaning, I presume that he probably slept six hours at least in the... I worked all day this morning. So, yeah, I did a normal day of work.

It's just, I, once every couple months, I just sort of just like opt out of sleep. It's no thing. Okay. It's just a thing. You did. The game is beautiful. The game is wonderful. The game is lovely.

It's everything we were waiting for. But my alma mater is in a video game for the first time ever. It's cool. the value of my degree is skyrocketing between that and um there's a pro wrestler who went there so between those two things we're basically in ivy league school now um i put all the conferences back yeah yeah i put all the conferences back where they should be oh thank god yeah it was wait going back to what going back to when 92 98 i mean i went to like five years ago um okay honestly if we if we were going to do it legit it'd be back to 91 of course but i would prefer

to just take it back to before what i had to know what the AAC was, that's kind of when I started to lose my grip. I think the max number of teams you can have independent is like 24. I think it's supposed to be 20 per conference is the max. I think I squeezed in a few more independence while I was messing around. So you can get pretty

close to like 80s, 70s if you want. But then instead of that, you could make it. You just have to call it something else. But I set up a three-tiered promotion relegation system. Nebraska's in Conference USA.

For instance, then I have the ACC is just the on-deck circle. If you don't make the cut, you're in the ACC. I mean, come on. I mean, they're the ones who wanted to be national, so they get, you know, they get ULM and Hawaii. Again, there's the back. I will be terrified if you sim out an entire season with Nebraska at the Conference USA, and they're like four points from being promoted, right?

Right? They're like, ah, they're so close. No, no. funnier answer is Nebraska runs the table in conference students, USA. And the reward is getting promoted to the Big 12, which is now a second tier league. Where they go

4 and 8. Oh God, too hard. Too hard. Too hard. Oh, God. You know, this next week of workouts doesn't seem too bad. Ow! So hard. Oh, God.

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Download game time today, last-minute tickets, lowest price, guaranteed. The other genre of reaction to the game that I have really enjoyed is from people who super excited to get it, super excited to start playing it, and are immediately like, fuck, this is hard, fuck yay! I'd barely play it a football video game for 11 years. Like the few times it did, it was like me losing to Spencer in NCAA 14, like every few years um other than that it's it i sort of feel like i've never played a video game before and then

the one thing they did that is is it's weird like you kind of lose muscle memory but then you don't because like on a read option they switched like it used to be a to hand off now it's a to keep right i think i have that right whatever it is it's the opposite of what it used to be and it's it's it's completely fucking broken my brain like it i can't run the option right now because you can't because you can't like turn your frontal lobe off and just like you can't like Jedi mind trick it right right you have to be using you have to like use all the front of your cerebrum right now that sucks i feel i feel like i'm calling out the fucking mic when i when i call an option i'm like standing there like if that guy stays put don't push any buttons saying it out loud to myself yeah

like you're psyching yourself like looking at looking at both of your hands like don't you fuck this up don't push that putting tape over it and shit This is like how 16-year-olds drive Where it's like, okay Left turn Blinker on Now Ignition

I heard a lot of people complain that they can't kick anymore Oh yeah I don't know It's yeah It takes a second it used to But like I don't know I think I got it down pretty quickly

But it's the only thing I'm good at I appreciate this though As a matter of game design I will never have any problem with you Making kicking as fucking hard as possible because coward, coward, why are you doing it anyway? I think I've seen this is the only football game I think I've seen where like the computer is just breaking punts off the side of the stadium

and spraying field goals everywhere. It's pretty realistic. I like that they design college kickers as college kickers, right? Like here comes a guy who's a random event generator. Let's see what he does. I think he's deleted it. I don't think he will care if I bring it up here. Alex Kirshner wrote that.

He started the game. He started just to like play now with Maryland, his alma mater. Did he delete this? I think I can't find it. But again, I think he's going to be fine with this. He's playing Rice. And on and he's, he kicks off to start the game on his very first play of NCAA 25, this game he's been waiting for forever.

Some white receiver on Rice runs it back for a joke. So fucking nerd. that's it that's what you get permissing with a staple food welcome to the game you fuck with the rice with whatever the fuck a rice owl is you don't want any part of it

you wanted the game so bad didn't you now eat it eat every bite you forgot you were Maryland you lost your food in this game defense is so hard that special teams is hard let's put it that way yes I have heard

I have heard if the other team is running hurry up on you You are fucking cooked. Hurry up is, yeah, it's legit. It's effective. It's also the massive difference. I played as UTSA.

I just sprinted through a season. Like going on the road to Texas State and the announcers are like, oh, there's a big time rivalry. And there's like 5,000 people in the stands. And everything looks cool and beautiful. And then the next game is on the road at Texas and all your players are like clearly forgetting

what player running. Auditors don't work. Like you don't know which button. and switch receiver, like, you better memorize your play before you go out. Yeah, like, if you're the quarterback, if you, like, check the play, sometimes the play will be wrong because you're confused and it's like flipping back and forth, everyone is hallucinating. And it's like, it's like the old 2000s NCAA with the wiggly lines.

Like, it's that meets hallucinogens. Yeah. I hope there's a, like, a random event generator built in somewhere in the engine that does this harder in Lubbock than anywhere else. no reason at night. There it's like the red dust clouds booming forth. Yeah, the haboob. Yeah. The game's been interrupted by a hoboom.

What? There's eight foxes on the field. This is crazy. Oh, that reminds me. If anybody gets a surrender, Cobra, please send it to me so that I can tell my mom I'm in the game. Oh, man, that'd be good. Oh, people will absolutely send them because it is in there. Yeah. I'm in the game. The other things I've seen that I've really enjoyed and can't wait to experience. Everyone running

RPO has no fucking clue what they're doing. Everyone I've seen running RPO is like, snap, it's a lot like those daffy duck, porky pig cartoons where it's like, snap, Perry, thrust, for it. Like, it's somebody doing a lot of things and it just ends with interception.

In my main dynasty. Devastating sack. My main dynasty is if I was going to say, as if I'm really invested in this one. I was like, all right, let me, let me I'm going to have the game for 11 hours I'm going to roll out my main dynasty. I'm going to roll out Jamie Chadwell's playbook. And then it's like, oh, fuck this shit.

Week two, we're switching to Gus Melzahn's playbook. Oh, God, this is too much. Week three, week three, get me fucking Jim Harbaugh's playbook. Some good American football that I can understand. This is kind of beautiful because there's a level on which it's kind of giving you an emotional window into the coaches who get real fucking work. up having to play these guys. Yeah. Yeah. Like, well, we've, we've talked before about, like,

we've talked before about, like, coaches being like, eh, Gus is going to run some high school shit. Oh, Jesus Christ, he's running some high school shit. Yeah, yeah. The only on his pass is toss sweep. I played the, uh, the FCS East astronauts and their flex bone team. And it's like, it's very much the sensation of like, oh, you see how this is now, huh?

Yeah. This fucking sucks. isn't it? You're like, I can't. This fucking white boy number 40 is just trampling my team. Running straight up the middle of the field. You're like, I can't wait to the fourth quarter when I can, you're like, I can't wait until I get at the fourth quarter when he gets tired and I can

paralyze this kid and get him off the field. Jesus. This fucking dude playing for the astro knots has 150 yards. Running straight forward. The only thing that got, that stopped. him was that he cramped from running too far he ran out of fucking milk getting diced up by space force over here finally my 300 pound three star defensive tackle fell on his knee sideways and I'm like oh thank God oh god yeah I'm switching to the I'm switching to flex bone for sure

how much it sucks people have very I also enjoy that people have very very personal place that But they're running for, they're like, what did you do first? Luke Zimmerman, long time front of the program, was like, yeah, with Ohio State and all the receivers in the world, you know what I ran? Halfback dive, baby. That's right. That's right. First play.

Throw on the ball, scary. That shit happens. Just keep running it. You get four yards. We're turning every, this game's turning everyone into like Woody and McCorvey, 2002. Mississippi State's offensive coordinator who's like, belt, suspenders, pants ain't going to fall down. Run it. on third down.

Yeah. It's my trial, baby. I might just play as Iowa because fuck it. I'm not scoring anyway. Yeah. There was another, there was another, I have seen people playing with Iowa and they seem to be having a grand old time cosplay. Because if you play as the team, you want to cosplay as them.

You want to play as much like them as possible. Jason, you and I have played previous iterations of this game before, and I will absolutely do that, no matter who. we're playing if it's texas tech i'm going to run the ball four times right because it was like yeah on accident if i fumble and i have to recover it and cannot yeah that's when we run um if you do like our serious run heavy team i will pass the ball four times that's what we do everybody who's playing with the most crow magnet team seems to be having a delightful time my um my kid played her very first uh football video game ever as soon as it downloaded like someone

called so i was like hey here you go so she was the first one to play it um she played as USC got a couple touchdowns um see clay helton can't be that hard yeah i mean it's lincoln riley i think she's doing better than him defense worked out about the same yeah i was gonna see lincoln riley's had this game for a while if you know what i mean yeah he's been playing this i can't play defense the game didn't actually go away for all of us i think i suffer weird losses when the computer says i'm gonna have two of them on the season yeah uh recruiting is back It's kind of like a combination of all the previous ones. There's like a DM, the player.

You know, like they've updated the language a little bit. But I stemmed through a season as UTSA had a top 60 recruiting class. Felt really good, got that Memphis job offer. And I was like, it is just disgusting and disgraceful that the media is trying to tear down what we have built here in San Antonio. They're going to have to shoot me to get me out of this job. I am just delighted and proud to be the new head coach at the University of Memphis

this is the only job I would have left for it and I walked in the door looked at the recruiting board and I was like what the fuck have y'all been up to? Like it was GIF walking in and everything's on fire

I was like I should have stayed man I need to crawl back home how'd you how'd you get a one star punter? It was like I see why the previous guy got fired I guess

when you're recruiting is it true that you get DM by like ladies that's in a single player mode I haven't done any of that where it's like you know you're the quarterback and you're trying to you're like a freshman and working a web starter or whatever but like someone someone posted a video of like someone who was like their character was like flirting with someone and then they did this weird

ramble and they got blocked and it's like this huge it's like the same like effect of like Eldon Ring you have died it pops up blocked like he got shut down by an imaginary lady on DMs as a recruit EA as a chalk yeah if this isn't in there put it in there in a patch let people get catfished in the game catfish also if you don't go to class of course it pops up GPA down oh wait I want to say GPA decrease it's my home screen is there a voice is there a voiceover when it says GPA down or is it just I hope there is I haven't seen it in the

actual game yet I haven't but uh oh crucial question how are the academic rankings well seeing as I play as conference USA teams I don't know we don't really worry we we tend to steer recruits toward other areas of interest a little differently why is why is my academic ranking mind your business I don't look at that shit I just say hey look at proximity to home because I'm not recruiting any further than five miles away from campus sure okay

my favorite reaction so far I think if I had to pick one has to be Mike Craven who is a college football editor Dave Campbell and he's getting ready to head out for media days

and his wife asked him why are you packing the PS5 and he says a new college video game comes out this week during SEC Media Days and his wife goes, but you're not a gamer and Mike goes, sit down for a second. Everybody who's got to have a... People have had, conceivably,

since the last game came out, you could have met and married a partner and have kids in middle school who don't know about like, oh, it's time to go back to the old me. So you've got to come out as a gamer. Like you got to pull your, you're pulling your bulletproof briefcase from under the loose floorboard and like dad why is there a game cube in the closet let me tell you about something son a long time ago

i made some mistakes in belfast anyway the point is a history of violence but with the stanford tree on the stairs yeah that is 100% it's just like telling people that you were in the IRA you have to be like sit down under john wicks floorboard is a power pad I used to repair clocks for my friend Jerry. Surely you know someone who could fit a timer. That does make me realize what a cruel fate it is for the student athletes who have who have been brought to SEC Media Days right as this game. Well, on the bright side, on the bright side, they're probably not, you know, they're not expected at two a days right now, right? That's true.

Once you're out of the interviews, what do you have to do, but sit in your hotel room? You're right. This is probably the easiest disciplinary week they've ever had at SEC Media Days because nobody's going out to drink. Nobody's trying to order tequila flights for room service. You know where all your kids are going to be at bedtime. You're right. They brought the game to their hotel room, yeah. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Surely, yeah. Yeah. Like, I would never, you would never have to do bed. They might not do bed checks this entire season at certain schools. if they just bring a flotilla of playstations along on every road game i'll do bed checks but it'll be hey go to sleep go to sleep you nerds but i just got off for the temple job go to bed that job sucks coach this is a better job than you ever got coach we'll go to bed if

you can beat us oh that's how we get in trouble coach didn't you lose to these guys then next so then you come back four hours later and coach is playing Coach, didn't these guys say you were a cancer? Coach, coach, log off and go to sleep. Coach, like what's the game saying about you? Wait, where is Jeff Tedford? Not Jeff Tedford, I'm sorry. Jesus, apologies, Jeff Bowden.

I'm really sorry to hear him. I know what Jeff Bowden's doing this week, baby. I'm really sorry to hear about Jeff Tedford. That fucking sucks. Oh, that does suck. Jeff Bowden is a special teams coordinator. Wait. Oh, he's been out of, he's still at a job.

Yeah, you know what special teams he's coordinating? one's in the PS5. That's what he's doing. His brother hasn't been there in like five years. Yeah, he's gone. I was looking at the preview on Google before. No, but it's, okay. This is baffling.

Is Jeff Bauden unaccounted for? Jeff Bauden, three paragraphs on his wiki. One of them is about nepotism. I think that's right. One of them should be about it's 2014. Just for the real legacy. Yeah, I mean, do you know who's learned a lot about football by playing video games? That's true.

know he didn't learn it coaching it so that's true yeah i want to get to i want to get to certain things about the game uh one of them is one the drum line i've seen multiple tictox praising the drum line they're like whatever drumline they got recording this cooked the menu music is all drums all the time i'm pretty sure one part of the drumline or part of the recording um was a high school in nashville i don't think i made that up oh really it might have been MBA oh oh God, really? What a waste. I mean, it's good.

I could have that wrong. Father Ryan's band. I believe part of the drumline. That's almost as bad, but at least funny. Well, to make up for that, I believe part of it was done by a DCI band, the Blue Devils. So the drum, so the. Dude. Okay.

That's much better. Okay. Although Father Ryan is known in certain corners as Father Rehab, so maybe that goes. Did they not still call it that? No, they do. Okay, just checking. They do. I just didn't want to blow up high school students like that.

Yeah. We had songs about it. Yeah. Part of us done by the Blue Devils. Another thing I've seen that people absolutely love is they love celebrations. And the fact that they got every single mascot right, like Goldie will rotate his head. If you see Goldie, Goldie, Goldie will flip his head around. Dude, do they have, do they have inflatable little red going up?

side down in the stands. There's so much little shit. Like if you're, you know, your punt team runs out of bounds and like balks into the mascot, they interact. So like, I don't know if you can flatten a mascot, but they will like they will like jostle their way past each other. So you can put hands on

a mascot. Oh, I can't wait to unlock the puking orange bowl mascot. And if like, if the quarterback throws a ball out of bounds, you see players like duck. See existing coach. catch it and celebrate. I wanted to ask about announcers, though, Jason.

One, does anyone chastise you for running up the score? My favorite video game thing, the person's like, a disgusting display of lack of sports. Well, seeing as I play a shitty conference USA teams, they don't have that problem of running up the score. Thanks for bringing it up against Spencer. The only thing about the entire game I don't like is, obviously, David Pollock, who there's when that fucking, when that fucking,

Maybe that's there to tether you to reality. That fucking fullback's running wild on me. And David Pollock's like, fullbacks aren't divas. And I'm like, Jesus, man, this is really ruining the mood. I haven't played in a big enough game yet to hear.

They're trying to make it realistic. They're not making it a utopia, you know? I like that you're trying to earn that. Is David Pollack kind of, well, it's like the game of the week gets Fowler? Is David Pollock in there like an emotional governor, like to make sure that you don't spend

13 hours in there at a time. I guess. I'll just mute it. He can't stop me. Also, why can't fullbacks be divas? Yeah, for real. This motherfucker's running for 200 yards. He better be a diva. He better stunt his whole way down the field. I can't do anything about it.

Larry Setters gets what Larry Setters wants. That's right. Lorenzo Lorenzo Neal demands a massage chair. Jorvorsky Lane requires a PR Flack. He's tired of talking

to you, Pion. I don't know a fullback, whoever annoyed himself out of being barred from workouts at his alma mater. It's fair. I'm saying maybe he'd know from divas. That's all I'm saying. Fullbacks wash their hands. Frequently. People I have seen

in the credits of this game. Matt Brown, Bud Elliott, Stephen Godfrey. Is there anybody else that I'm forgetting? That I don't know. I think there's several from the athletic. I recall correctly. Yeah. I don't remember who, though,

which is why I think it's, I think Max, Ari. Is Vinini in there? Vinini better be in there, yeah. Not any of us. Interesting. Well, I can't decide whether or not to reveal a conversation. Okay.

Okay. I was talking to Ben Howell Miller earlier and this week. And I was, you know, just, you know, hey, thanks for, you know putting up with all of us all this time blah blah blah he said that they had a little bit of a mantra going in the office of which we were a big part and that they had tried to maintain a sensibility when adding these little details of when a certain element of the game and i'm quoting here needed to be more full cast and when it needed to be more split zone

so we're not we're not in the credits but i can confirm that we are there in spirit i mean like yeah like there are lots of things i could reveal on a podcast that would um emphasize that so like yeah i mean whether our names are in there this is by way of saying please don't go complaining to the EA people that the full cast is not in the credits we we we are felt no yeah our presence has felt no i i i don't want that i mean jesus surrender cobra's in there how much more in there could i get also you already know if you have complaints about the game they go to godfrey at 38 godfrey like he made all of it he's in the credits so actually you should bring the complaints to him having said that thing about names i do still want to be uh kansas states default head coach

yeah seems fair good that would be good i also like the idea of i also like the idea of bud walking up to people and going through the but but like when when you're like looking through your schools um metrics your academics whatever that is and you're like pro potential and all this stuff there's one that's like team talent or whatever and it's evaluated by but hell it's a blue shit ratio and i'm like oh yeah i added it the first edition of that's pretty good that's good shit there's just like lots of little moments like that that like we're that's and ben actually i hope that's the point that ben made because i just remembered something else like other direct phrase he said which is that we're like that that whole he's he's he's when he says that whole generation

you know he's he's referring to you know with with a couple friends of the program but in big volume like heyday espionation but the phrase that he used was that like we're we're part of that we're all part of the fabric of of what they were trying to create here and that's just a great feeling it is it is and i hope it's a come up for everybody i hope glad gets to make all i hope bud gets to make all the new tom clancy games okay so when yeah they would they'd be fantastic i hope matt brown gets a pokey mom wow yeah oh do know that'd be powerful and so patient named after penny obviously drawn by penny yes yes i hope that so like when mike praida

MPA writer for SB Nation at one time and now beyond that. Where's Mike work right now? Mike would go to summer. Mike also, there are only two websites. There was one called SB Nation. Now there's one called the Athletic. That's where everyone works now. Okay, so you're with this.

Congratulations. I'm very sorry. That I did not remember where you worked. And I vote. My opinions are not due respect to doing. Now there's a sticker. I do not understand the initial date line and I vote. But Mike would go to Summer League and people would like, oh, hey, Mike, what's up?

And he was a normal reporter and got the normal amount of access. But then his tweets were featured in 2K as content and he would show up to Summer League and NBA players. So up Mike Braden. Like they'd seen him in the game and they'd seen him in the game and they'd They were like, oh, he's in 2K. That guy's legit. So they'd walk up and be like, hello, Mike Prada. Fellow 2K cast member.

Spencer, who are you going to play with first? Follow up question. After you get frustrated with them, who are you going to play as second? I think I'm going to play with. I've been leaning towards Wyoming, but I'm also sort of thinking. So maybe like start as North Texas. Because North Texas, maybe that's your offline. Get hired elsewhere.

Because you got to finish the story at North Texas. Get hired in bail. I do need to finish the story. Or get fired at North Texas. That works. I have no choice. Buddy, I can get fired to you. I know that's not in the game and possibly will be added as Hawaii's home stadium for whatever reason.

So Ben was talking to Godfrey on a split-run episode, which is actually very interesting. And I think, I think it was there, they mentioned that there, there were a handful of stadiums that are in construction, Vanderbilt's one of them, that it's sort of like, they will get updated as the game goes. So, like, that's the fun part is, yeah, shit will get updated throughout the season. And from what Ben said, by the way, before you complain, this is very much in the, in the habit of, or in the vein of if your school isn't a home field, school, yell at your school, not at home field. But based on what Ben told Godfrey on that episode, this was like what your school looks like right now is basically at the direction of the school. Like Vanderbilt apparently for a little while wanted to have the under construction stadium be there this season, but then decided like, hey, let's put the future rendering in there.

So the stadium you're going to see for Vandy is what Vandy's future stadium is allegedly going to look like when it's done. And Hawaii, because they're a little more up in the air, they kind of have a, uh, a generic stadium right now while they're playing at that municipal spot. But that, that again, it was done like, this was not like EA in my understanding was not EA, like plunking things down for people. This was all done in partnership and discussion with the schools themselves. The other thing. And if you're going to yell at somebody, yell at your school. The other thing. And we're not just going to like recap a paywalled episode of Splets. Oh, that would be a very, oh shit. Sorry. No, it's fine. People should go, people should go subscribe

to Splitstone and listen to the episode. The other thing that was interesting that Ben mentioned was music selection, specifically licensed music. Like, inter-Sandman is not in the game. Inter-Sand-man is not in the game. And

Ben explained that. Because licensing fees are insane. Well, and they sort of had to decide, like, was something going to be single use or would it apply to multiple schools? So, like, Seven Nation Army is something that they can put in the game because they know, like, that's going to go a million places, but... Right, and, like, licensing, that is expensive, but a million schools use it. And the inner Sandman, despite being, like, a huge thing, is used in the pregame for one school,

which kind of, like, bumps it down the priority list. But they are, they are hoping to, like, they basically, they said, and I completely understand this, that they didn't want to spend quite this much of this development cycle in court. Right. And as, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, person missing country roads right now i i you know i'm bummed also but i get it is sandstorm in the game i haven't heard it but it is yeah good good like that's the important thing badass that was there was man now i'm just i i'm just gonna shit every i there were so much interesting stuff in this talk

with godfrew that i really do just want to recap the entire episode but i'll i'll stop there there's a lot more interesting stuff about the music that I had not thought about, like the fact that it didn't occur to me that they would have to license the fight songs. I kind of just thought you could just use those. Well, it kind of varies school to school, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I would have laughed if they'd had some workaround like, yeah, welcome to Blacksburg, Virginia, where tonight Virginia Tech is taking on the Miami Hurricanes. And now a video of Mario Cristobal playing the acclaimed video game. It's our hero. three.

That's the one song. An attempting Enter Sandman. Yeah. It is creator wrestler rock track number one for Virginia Tech. Honestly, they should just play Sandstorm. It's got sand in it, don't it? Sandstorm should be the spackle for every this song. You're entering Sandstorm.

It's fine. They should play Enter Glend Man, and it's one note different. The Vanel Ice version. Or just chop and screw it. Yeah.