Shutdown Fullcast - The Michael Felder Episode (Featuring Stephen Hartzell)

Episode Date: January 24, 2024

- Choose a Google Drive product to get stuck in, Tron-style - A brief history of how Hand In The Dirt saved the Shutdown Fullcast - America's new favorite podcast game is Where's Felder - Is self-cleaning mode on an oven even a real thing - Offseason plans, advice, and brags, from horticulture to romance novel food trucks - How to get into wrestling in 2024, which Jason says you should do - Ryan is an old man who fears technology - No for real have you seen Felder - Out: Peloton. In: Pianos. - Today’s theme song was arranged and performed by Brian Conway - Visit preownedairboats dot com for commerce - Visit shutdownfullbooks dot com for spiritual sustenance Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

If you're trapped in Google Docs, let's do the rankings, which parts of Google Docs would you most want to be trapped in? I think the argument for Google Docs itself, the word Doc replacement, is that look at all that free space in which you have to roam, but also free space can be a nightmare. You have no security, no containment. You could travel infinitely until the dock overloads and the webpage crashes, dooming you with it. Yeah, it's also, I feel like you're more likely to get lost in. the shuffle of untitled Google. Like, I don't know about y'all. I got a lot of untitled Google docs where that just have like two lines in them

where it's like, I don't know what I was doing there. Yeah, you go back and find some shit from seven years ago where it's where it's like Kevin Wilson and that's all it says. Right, that's it. And maybe that means Kevin Wilson is trapped in that Google talk. Oh, brother, KW. So like, so if you manage to communicate to the outside world via the Google Doc and you say like, I'm in untitled Google Doc 1-8-5.

No one's going to find it. No one's ever going to find it. I assume I'm not, I'm going to feel bad if I'm the only one on this call. Do you all get like porn spam Google Docs? No. Okay. Like in Google Doc? Like shared with you?

Like showing up in your email? Yes. Interesting. Maybe in the spam. I haven't, uh, let's take a look. Let's look. Yeah, good point. It pretty much, it pretty well.

gets shared to spam at this point. I just searched Google in my Gmail spam and I'm not seeing it. That's a new one for me. Is it Rosie with three eyes or is it a different? No, it's somebody else. Like it's usually, it's usually a collection of people. Does it feel like they're repeating?

Based on the, I assume based on the names. I'm going to see if you're not actually falling for these schemes. No, no, they're very obvious. Like all good spam, they're very obvious. Now that you mention it, I do, I remember this before, it has not happened in a long time, but I remember that like, yeah, especially over COVID. Yes. And like, but yeah, maybe like the last year I haven't gotten as many, but I would like report them.

Yes, yes. So maybe my filter is better now. Now I can't find me. So I think we have imagined a universe in which people are trapped inside Google Drive. and I think we've discovered their pornographic actors stuck inside somewhere in there. Someone should release them from that unless they're doing very well in there. I don't know. I think Google Slides would be worse to be trapped in.

You think so? Because, like, nobody, there's nothing fun in Google Slides. Like, Google Docs or Google Sheets, sometimes you're like, oh, this is some weird stuff. But, like, nobody's like, oh, here's a fun Google Slide that I made. this is in 1980 where it's like here's my vacation photos yeah as far as trapped percentage and like ability to ever get out yeah I've never I didn't even know that was a thing Google slides no one's gonna find you there no one and no one thinks gonna find you there needs you and they're not gonna let you free no because

they're in good they're kind of trapped in Google slides they're like I need you to animate on the the photo that is part of this presentate you have to drag it on Trapped Google Slide, dude? Hey, so while you're trapped in there and knock off PowerPoint, can you go ahead and finish the PowerPoint? I'm not going to, because who does that anymore?

I think Google Sheets could be really perilous. Like, it's got the order and the structure. That's nice. And it's the most powerful. So, like, if you master... Formulas for days. Yeah, if you become, like, you know, dungeon lord of the formulas,

you can... Sending in there, you can become, like, the Gwynpool of Google Drive just with absolute... mastery of the entire meta for every started untitled Google doc that no one remembers the unfinished Google spreadsheets have to be even more perilous because like that's some shit where you go back and you find the spreadsheet you started seven years ago and you're like I don't even I don't even did I know math at the time what was I even trying to do here you know

like it doesn't just say Kevin Wilson it's like it's a combination of GPS coordinates and inflation rates from the 1930s and some other thing and letters. Yeah, you're just like, where is, what treasure is this pointing me towards? What was I trying to say? Is there any treasure here at all? There's also Google Jamboard.

I don't know what that is. It sounds terrible. That feels like some shit that you put on the wall at a meeting and everyone yells things at it, and then you're like, we'll come back and shape this up, but you don't. Yeah. We'll loop back on this

Let's jam board and then loop back That's how you do business Then I'll ping you about the jam board I'll pick you Offline So I saw your ping now I'm circling back Where are you based That's it

That's the business All you do in business You say where are you based And then they tell you where they live For whatever reason I don't know why live means based All right Well

Hang on Google Earth now There's an interesting one Are you free of all the perils of real Earth on Google Earth, but yet, you know, you get all the spoils nonetheless. Hmm. Sometimes the buildings go flat, but that happens

here on Earth sometimes if there is a tornado, for instance. Mm-hmm. Yeah, but in this one, there's no chaos. No tornado, in fact. The buildings just flat all the time. Yeah. I'm going to see if that's true. You see if there's disasters on Google Earth.

I'm going to search tornado. Oh, all right, there are places called tornado. How do you go? I add robot monster. Tornado, West Virginia. Start riots in Google Earth. Tornado bus company in Nashville, just around the corner. Great.

Love that. I think, according to, if Google Earth is accurate, West Virginia is the only place that has a town named Tornado. Natural Disasters Maud Google Earth. Hmm. Not seeing one. That's smart. It's really smart of them to not allow that. Alien

Earth has a new look Damned All right I mean There's some There's some storms Brewing out here on Google Earth As I look at the interface here

It's not all sunshine and daisies On Google Earth I might have been wrong about that Google drawings There's a paintbrush in here Again, nobody looks in this stuff. That, yeah. And really all we wanted was Reader.

That's all we wanted Google, but instead you're like, no, what about bad PowerPoint? Yeah, Google Reader would be a pretty decent place to get stuck. It's the library, but you don't even have to walk. It's all just flowing straight at your face. Yeah. That's not bad. All right. I don't know if we can wait for Felder to do the welcome.

I think we just have to rip it off. How about what if, welcome whenever he arrives? okay and just start otherwise we're cold opening we're cold opening with introductions okay

welcome to follow before we before we do that how scale of one to ten how frazzled is uh feldor going to be

when he arrives eight right yes yeah not gonna be good for him no no because he like

does not like does not like he he he he this is this is not where he wants he's very late he's not even a little late the voice you're listening to there that's stephen hartsell i'm ryan nanny jason kirk's here michael servers here we're waiting on michael felder this is the internet's only college football podcast we'll get to the welcome if and when yeah that's the other thing if if feldar never shows this could be the only full cast without a welcome there's probably several but yeah first the first that we're

aware of yeah yeah um Before we get started, Hartzell, you've never been on the show before, right? Not formally. No. Your fingerprints have touched this show, but your voice is not. I hung out in the background of very few. So you'd have to check the archives. But, you know, it's good to be with you guys. So thank you.

We should give you your flowers here. So I don't know that we've ever talked about this. But when the show stopped being hosted by Vox Media, rest in piss. Hartzell was the one at Learfield who reached out to us and was like, hey, would really like to work with y'all, whatever. Half of other people reached out as well from other places. Appreciate them doing that. But Stephen Hartzl is a big, big reason why the show kept going, why it came back, why we're still doing all this dumb shit. And we have not publicly thanked you, Hartzl.

So thank you for helping us find a lifeline in a very stupid time. I know we're not with Learfield at the moment, but that does not mean we don't appreciate it. appreciate you and your efforts keeping the show. And thank you as well for Serber being here. Yes, 100%. Yeah, that was a weird time. Remember? There is some stuff going on, I think I recall.

That was, was that like, that was literally like March or April of 2020. Yes, that sounds right. That was early. Yeah. And ironically, we had started Hand in the Dirt with Felder in February of 2020. Our first guest was Holly. I have always wanted to know and I might as well ask now

how did Hand in the Dirt get started what was that conversation like I don't know how this show got started so I can't answer it in return but what is like the hit the origin story so Serber you correct me if I'm wrong I feel like we had the relationship with Felder because of the college sports now

podcast that we do and we've done with Felder for a long time server was a part of that we did our thing with Felder once a week, sometimes twice a week. And, you know, Felder is a maniacal tweeter. Like, he tweets a lot. And one night, he just started going. I mean, Serber and I knew that he had a passion for cooking.

And just, he's like this Jack of All Trades guy. But one night he just started going about, I'm going to do a show and I'm going to call it hand in the dirt. And we're going to talk about gardening and football and food. And I literally was like, hey, man, if that's something you want to do, you've already got the gear like we'll we'll crank it up like that sounds funny right i think it was something along those lines and then that's not how it happened at all okay no no that's how that's pretty much how it happened he he like felder said all that and then

felder used to come in to Winston Salem yes to do shows yeah but i i don't think he was there for this i think we were doing this and he was maybe in chicago already i that part i don't remember but what i do remember is him saying like yeah i want to do that yeah he was like i wasn't just fucking around on twitter i want to do that and you had been like yeah i wasn't kidding on twitter when i and i was like yeah i will i will help you do that it was that it was very much like he just was fucking pissed and was like i want to do this thing that i know people want to listen to this thing and we're both like yeah we'll help and now you've done 200 plus episodes of it but the full cast came to be because when covid hit yeah in march of torrid

we had done literally like three or four episodes and we had had Holly on and Felder told me about everything that was happening with Holly and the full cast and Vox and I believe at the time all you guys or a proportion of you guys had been furloughed half of us yeah okay right so it was literally a I mean if if like the true origin story of how I came to reach out to you guys was I knew Holly I had her email address because she was the first guest we had a on hand in the dirt and I knew that y'all's podcast which I had heard of but not heard was on the show honestly more proof of your business acumen well I mean that's that's the story for the box that we don't have to talk about that side of it but that's how I came to get you for on a Zoom call and basically I mean it took a while it still took yes I mean you guys didn't crank up the first show until football season of yeah until probably like August, yeah, and that was such a bizarre football season to begin with, like, when it started and, like, just all of it. So now I have to ask. It took a while. You had not listened to the show. Again, no judgment.

Actually, positive judgment. I knew who you people were on Twitter. Like, I knew you guys as avatars. I like how you're describing us like it's the suicide squad. I'm pretty sure we had meetings. Yes, we have lots of meetings. Yeah. We had meetings where we were like.

wait a minute, IM Fulcast. These things are very different. You're good with that, right? And Hartzl was like, sure. Now, but here is my question. At what point did you, if at all, did you decide, all right, I have to listen to this show that we are potentially bringing on board. Yeah, before our first Zoom call, I went back and listened to your last episode, which was, I mean, I just remember the audio sticking out as a very, I was like, all right, if this is the bar, I feel like we can help them here. Obviously, the rest of it, you know, it goes a short-lived thing. But we got, you know, we had a good time and we got you guys back up and running. And look where you all are now. It's awesome.

But, yeah, I remember listening to it. And, I mean, I had read Spencer stuff for years. And, like, I came to, like, follow you guys on social media. But, like, that first meeting was very much like, hey, I've been tasked with trying to find stuff to do because we don't think we were going to have football games in the fall. And, like, our company had tried to, like, reach out and successfully did, like, e-sports stuff and other things. But we weren't sure what football was going to look like. And, like, Cerber was full time with us at Learfield at the time. And we were literally just going through the archives and finding class.

classic games of schools that we worked with and cutting them up and repurposing those for like content for for our properties for our for our business partners that's all we had yeah another brilliant idea of mine yeah I mean we were literally on a committee that was called Saturdays without football yeah sure and so you guys are very a very funny concept now like looking back it's like it's very funny to think like oh they weren't going to have college football well server and I worked in the pack 12 Washington is one of our schools they play four games that yes sure for yes yes like games were getting whacked the day of all the time and and it was just I mean logistically it was a nightmare it was awful nobody in the pack 12 traveled nobody was like you'd had to rely on like s IDs to put up a laptop for basketball and it was awful like people were calling stuff off monitors we had no idea what we were doing the audio is probably weird too because you didn't have any crowd noise y'all are video game fan so you'll appreciate this uh we uh man there were a couple video games that have like

crowd loops um yeah sport video games yes sure there's a hockey one there's a bunch of basketball ones football is not as great but we had these loops that we would just pot up underneath our remote radio crew calling a game in l a when ucla's at colorado And that was the best we could get. Unless you could work with the engineers that were on site to feed it back and then you'd have to sync up the delay. It was a nightmare. I mean, it was just,

it was really, really tough. And some leagues did it better than others. Like the SEC was very buttoned up with SEC network and helping out their partner institutions. But out west it was a real struggle. So you guys came to be. And then a couple weeks in our discussions,

Jason was like, hey, podcast ain't played nobody. is another one. Maybe you should reach out to these guys and see if you can help them. And so we did and that became what is now splits and dole.

Yeah. So here we are. So it really is all thanks to Felder who's not still not here. And I'm worried about Felder. Server, I'm worried about Felder. I texted Felder. I said, if you're dead, say nothing.

So as of now, rest in peace. Oh, man. It was a really good. great run for a legendary guy we might have to cut that out if he is in fact dead if he is dead yeah we'll cut that in post i mean leave it in because we called him legendary that's true yeah we were much worse when we thought spencer was dead but that's just how it goes obviously spencer and holly aren't here today they're not just sitting quietly waiting to be introduced today we're going to talk about the off season because uh even though jim harry

Barbaugh is about to take the Chargers job and throw us all back into coaching carousel hell. It is the offseason. Like, we, do you all, do the three of you mentally feel like we are there? Like, we are actually in the off season now that we've gone through the whole Sabin thing. And like, are you willing to believe that we can live that life? This is college football, right? Yes. I know you, I know you do college basketball as well, and that's a different thing.

No, I mean, mentally, I'm already there. I need to be there. Yeah, for sure. Even though Jason and I, we have a pro football franchise that may or may not reap the benefits of all this. They're looking for a coach. Yeah. I'm sure that'll go really wonderful. I don't think Belichick is the best answer.

I think Belichick is the funniest answer. Well, you can't have Bill Callahan's son because he's a Titans coach now. It sure is. Don't worry. I um it's weird like having a job where my my day job is like editing a bunch of newsletters across various sports so like a large part of my brain is now football season rather than college football season um so like for me it's no it's still football season and it's i do think sabin's retirement and the lingering hardball stuff really affected that um really stretched things out because i mean they essentially both they picked up right after the title game but there's always some lingering drama going on so it's probably just more than usual there but eh for me it's it's it's i don't know just because of my day job there's a large part of my brain that's just there is no offseason anymore which it's fine well i have the yeah go ahead

server sorry god i mean you asked me there's i'm sorry i violated the no cross talk on podcast dictate how dare i if only we knew someone who could fix that the uh the like the definite no no thing to do nothing to do on saturday thing that has happened since like what december six or seven has been really fucking cool uh like it hasn't changed much otherwise because i didn't i didn't like expose myself to to maxon or anything like that Wednesday night college football on a regular basis. But not having to, like, feel really bad and frustrated all day Saturday. It's really, really refreshing.

And I do, I have embraced the offseason in that regard. I didn't do shit on Saturday this week. That's a good. That's good. That I didn't want to do anyways. Yeah. Hey, can I say one more thing, Ryan? Yeah. when you guys were like first coming up with us again the rebirth i remember having conversations

with serbs about y'all and like what i wanted him to do which was like tape the show and jot notes lots of notes that we had to go back and clean up or things it just makes me happy man that that serves is with you guys oh 100% yes this is like a full-time thing I kind of told y'all I was like I got a guy I think he's going to be a really good fit for what you guys are doing but like I had no way of knowing

that like that it would lead to this and I'm it it gives me great joy it was an excellent recommendation and one that we greatly appreciate and now Serber's here in an Outcast t-shirt and it's like we have arrived he has reached his final form

that's correct yeah yeah he's thriving I feel like one of the first things you said about Cerber was like he's a Clemson fan who makes fun of Clemson and we're like Okay. Yeah. I mean, he was the only guy in the in the toolkit. Like, there was no other option other than me.

And I think the last one I did with you guys, it was like, hey, we got to push the taping back like an hour because of WrestleMania. Yeah. And I was like. That'll happen. Fuck. Yeah. Because that was like a Sunday night and it was late. Yep.

Yeah. It was bad luck for you because I was, in fact, watching that WrestleMania. It would have been okay. I'm sorry. I'm busy. I've just done it. Busy work. yeah yeah we can't go yet like yeah it's good times uh all right so before we get into

offseason plans and questions that listeners submitted want to go around the horn one more time what is the thing you are looking forward to most in the offseason can be a project a like new thing you want to try a vacation it can be doing absolutely nothing stephen hartsell what's number one on your offseason list free time yeah just time like what I mean, I've got two kids and a wife, and we've got a lot here. Who you love dearly? Yes, very much so. But, like, she's got things that I've got to do.

Like, there's just stuff to do. And when you're, I mean, server's right, man. The football Saturday, even though we work and we love what we do, you know, not having that eight to 10 hour shift just looming on Saturday is really freeing. So, yeah, for me, it's just time. And then what is what we do at that time? is what's she going to task you with uh i've got uh i've got some things that i need to assemble um there's um like we have a we have like a playground in our backyard which is a covid

acquisition which i fought and lost on and it needs to be like not repurposed but our kids have grown and they've turned into like little military like kids who like run around chasing each other with Nerf guns and like we've got to find a way to repurpose this thing and make it like some sort of a cool fort or so I don't know just rethinking some of the stuff we have and then just like maintenance like lawn maintenance we got three acres out here it's not all cleared but the stuff that is cleared like that's a it's just a constant upkeep which I like I like being outside but this time of the year I can't really be outside for very long because it's just too cold or too wet.

So there's plenty to do. There's plenty to do. I'm just excited at the time. Server. What's top of your list? Gigs. I got, I'm not going to do the business. Do it.

Podcast business. What's that business? It's a business. Podcast business. Are you going to play that on stage? So I got, so at Monstercade on March 2nd in Winston-Salem, and we're playing

playing the Winston-Salem Pride Festival on June 22nd in Winston-Salem. We played that last year, and that was fun. I can't wait to do it again this year. And we're playing at reboot on June 29th, also in Winston-Salem. And we'll probably have more dates in the fall right before college football season, or end of summer, right before college football season two. So I'm excited to do those things. And the live show.

And y'all have put out a second single as well, right? Yeah, we put out a second single. We're going to have another single out on Valentine's Day. and then I wrote a song about my favorite Bruce Springsteen song that I'm hoping to put out right at the beginning of March before that Monster Cage show. So, I'm stoked for those things. What's your favorite Bruce Springsteen song?

Bobby Jean. Yeah, it may be a little bit, but my favorite Springsteen song is Bobby Jean from, born in the USA. It's about Stevie leaving the band. But it's a real, it's born in the USA, super underrated springsteen album but that one's that song specifically like speaks to me and a lot of

my friendships with like dudes that i grew up with that i played music with for sure so i'm and i'm stoked for everybody to hear that song so that would be my number one offseason thing that's kill that's killer ants with a z seven yeah yeah you may ask yourself why do we use a z and um it's because it's fucking cool yeah that that was honestly my assumption it's really fucking cool the tribute To the 1990-whatever film? Yes, right. Sylvester Stallone, I believe. Yeah, it's definitely a 90s.

It's whenever a Bug's Life came out. Like, that was the competition for it. Deep impact to Bug's Life's Carmagn. Correct. Correct. Yes, exactly right. Jason, what's your off-season priority one? Other than continuing to ship out books.

We have shipped the books. Oh, the books are shipped. We are essentially done the shipping hard. are, as far as I know, either arrived or on the way. We might have some more physical book-type projects to come, but we'll see about that. But, yeah, it's all book stuff, not to be a broken record. But, yeah, we have the Atlanta Live Show. We have a few disasters in a dock that I've gathered from people who are there.

If you're attending and you didn't see the email, check your spam. I don't know. It's in there somewhere. Check your porn Google Doc. Check, O.D. Ask, Rosie will guide you to where to input your disasters. Boy, that sounds perilous. Do you like what you see?

Good luck out there. Do you want to talk to me about a sin you committed? So I will also include a doc. I'm going to send out a substack email a week from now. And I'm only going to email it. I'm not going to post it, all right? So you better be subscribed if you have a religion disaster that you might want us to read, that you might want to input.

That's for anyone who's not. attending. We'll think about that as well. I will say the bar for those will be the same as any other disaster episode. Uncle's fucking up. Broken bones. Children setting things on fire that burn down. All of these are great. We don't want, I heard a sassy nephew tell a pastor that he didn't like him. No, no, no, no, no. That's not going to make the cut. We do already have lots of small people knocking over big candles. So we're going to read, I'll just read those all at once they're all awesome but apparently that happens in every episcopal church um which is you know now i'm really i kind of want to go see that um but yeah also looking to do other events as well

there's a couple i wish we could already announce uh hopefully we will soon um those those those those won't be full cast events but i'm still you know i'm still going to keep in mind uh that the uh sports internet community is a irrelevant one from which to draw potential guests and stuff And along that lines, if you are someone with any type of access to a venue and you think it would be a good place, do feel free to reach out. Most of the normal ways to contact me are fine. Jason Kirkbook at gmail.com is another. If I can get to your town and I don't have to do a whole lot of work, I'll do it.

I love showing up. I hate setting up logistics. so if you if you want to do all that shit I'll be there probably um I think my off-season thing I'm just gonna start I have to start tearing up my backyard like I got plants that I don't want where they are I have like stuff I need to trim up I put it off I usually say like you know oh you know it's spring it's nice that everything's like so full and green whatever and then in the summer it's hot and then fall comes and I'm like nope no time but like like basically we're going to hit the ground running this year i've been

literally too long yes yeah i'm just gonna just get out there and start digging stuff up and put new stuff in because i'm just tired of it what do you what do you want to put in right uh i'm mostly i want to change like the capital l landscaping like we have stuff that the prior owners put in that i either don't like where it is or i don't like it at all and i want to like like i want to get probably a couple of tea olives okay um i like that they're fragrant i like that they're easy to manage i think they'll look better in the front of the house and we have like some we have a couple of like sad azaleas that were just like planted too close together like aren't in a good area of the house winter comes and they're just like totally bare and i'm like no we can

keep those but they need to go to the backyard we need to find a better place for those same with the hydrangees like the hydrangees are like in it they're in a stupid part of the yard right now and we need to just like get things looking more intentional because it mostly looks like people were just like i don't know i went to home depot i spent the first 110 i could find on shrubbery and then i just plant put them randomly like i was trying to speed run a sims game or something like that i don't want that anymore i'm sick so this this sounds like more than just a DIY operation Yes, there's probably going to be some, like, outside. It's going to be a mix of, like, some I will do, some I will call my brother-in-law

and be, like, come over with the big machinery, and some will be outside help to do it properly. That sounds cool. Yeah, I just, like, the struggle I have is that I have a wife who would really like to have a nice-looking front yard and backyard. And it's very upfront. She's like, I don't want to do any of that shit. I don't want to do any of it and that's fine that's totally fine you can want things that you don't want to do that's the beauty of commerce how much of a plan do you have at this point I have a good plan for what's going out I have only like a half plan for what is replacing it at this juncture because there's a lot of like

I feel like every we're kind of getting into the the meat of this here or the meat of the hit the universe here I feel like almost every plant or shrub that you can acquire comes with like an if like I forget what it was it was oh my daughter for Girl Scouts last year they had like a tree person came come in and they all got like little crab apple trees that they got to like go home and figure out a place to plant we just put ours in a large bucket because the warning they got was like hey just so you know don't put these close your house because they'll drop crab apples and rodents love them

and then you'll have mice in your house you're spawning rats I'm like damn I don't want the mouse generating tree I don't want that at all so it's the delicate balance of nature that's all here's the thing though now's a good time to dig it all out it's winter

yes yes now that now that it is not ice in Nashville anymore yeah yeah yeah you guys were snowed in but don't wait till March yes that's a good point you can help it yes god knows the soil's fucking moist right now yeah i mean march can get weird because i mean you you guys get what we get like march could be you could get a blizzard in march it's happened before yes but if you're just trying to take stuff out yeah man take take

while it's lean yeah yeah yeah my wife wants to bush hog our side yard okay we don't have a bushhog we have a riding lawnmower mm-hmm so the problem i have it's not the fanciest riding lawnmower in the world. But I mean, it's a John Deere. But it's ample. Yeah, it's ample. Thank you. The problem with bush hogging a side yard with a riding lawnmower is that the blades are going

to encounter all kinds of things that aren't like even a root, like a root will destroy a mower blade. But there's all kinds of stuff back there. And she wants to go back there because it's January and it's

all dead and you can, you know, stomp around in there and mow it all down, like poison ivy, uh, thorns, all kinds of stuff. And I'm like, oh, man, like, I see the value in that, but I also see what, what's happening. You see the challenge as well. To that, to that precious mower and those blades that are just going to get shot to hell. So, uh, that's the balance, Ryan. That's, that's the life we've chosen, man. In the NFL, there is no margin for error. One mistake can change the outcome of the game. Science proves quality sleep can help boost reaction time, recovery time, and overall athletic performance. As the official sleep wellness partner of the NFL, Sleep Number's mission is to provide players with data and insights to optimize their sleep

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So let's jump into it with some questions and some brags that the listeners send in. Let's stay on track here. Hartzell, you picked out one from a good long-time listener of ours, Brian. Yeah, any small engine maintenance or upkeep tips to make sure the mower's ready to go in the spring. I cannot help out with the engine maintenance for obvious reasons. I'm just, that's not, that's not something I know anything about. You claimed it, though. But make sure the mower is ready to go in the spring.

I don't know what kind of mower you have, Brian, but if it's a riding mower, there are companies that will come and pick it up and just service it. They'll take it away for a week or two. Or they'll put it in the back of their truck and fix it. You can board your mower? Yeah, it's like mower spa. Yeah, it's a real thing. Or they'll just do the work on site in their truck, like in the back of their. Oh, they'll just load it up.

their truck. Yeah, they've got like a mobile flab. But the biggest thing, just oil change and if you can sharpen those blades. Like if you mow the grass with fresh, like sharpened blades, anybody's going to be able to tell that difference. I mean, it's just, it's gorgeous. Conversely, you can tell when your mower blades are kind of shot or when they're just, like literally, you're mowing in straight lines and the grass ain't even. like that that could be a deck problem too but more often than not your blades just need a fresh a fresh sharpening so that would be my recommendation brian i don't know what kind of mower you have

but man when that thing comes back after getting service that's a good feeling it's like it knows new tricks and stuff you got to tell these people to keep their decks clean too i like the the number one offense i see of lawn unlike people's lawnmowers is that i can tell they've never cleaned out the deck at all. Like every time you mow your lawn, you're supposed to just hit that thing real quick. Uh, and at one, it prolongs, it prolongs the life of your blades. It prolongs the life of the deck, keeps rust from happening. Um, and it keeps, you know, from that shitty spreading like shitty stuff all across your yard, uh, that you might not want that you might

have carried, um, from the, from like the, the weird edge spot that got stuck under there that's then going to drop in the middle of your yard and become a patch of weeds. They have to take care of later yeah yeah hit it with the leaf blower yeah clean it up the the with the hose there's you get it with the hose yeah most of most decks look down you have a little uh you have a little hose thing you're supposed to screw on and you you hit the you turn your hose on let the water run in there and you turn the blades on and let it spin around and clean it's like a self-cleaning oven which is the thing i don't trust just for what it's worth no no i would never use a self-cleaning oven, but I would use the water

blade thing. I would love if your oven had a feature where you could attach a hose to it and just power power wash it. You've never self-cleaned your oven before? I've definitely self-cleaning oven before, but I don't think it's the way to go. I think the way to go is to actually get in there and clean the oven. Yeah, it's not a very

energy-efficient way to clean your oven. I also think most of the time it's just like, okay, cool. Now the shit that was in your oven is super burnt. Congratulations. It's been vaporized, yes. I can no longer tell what it is, so fine. I don't care. No, it's easy to scrape because it's ash.

Sure. Yeah. Um, I want to share this one. This is, this is, uh, just a brag, not a question. I'm read, this is from Meredith. I'm renovating in 1967 shasta compact trailer, which I'm turning into a mobile romance bookshop called Peach Basket Books. Catch me in the Durham area sometime this year maybe. I'm going to include in the chat for, uh, for everyone. a link to what a mobile shasta or a compact shasta trailer looks like so you get a sense of what we're working with oh sick and i think this is a pretty dope plan wow like i think saying i'm going to have a like small a literal small business on wheels i think this is awesome so with um also tiny bonus

wagon as well i'm not sure if that's that that comes with it as oh that's it looks like that's for a pet yeah i think that's like a dog bed that's that's also i think it's good attention i'm glad that it's there yeah so um yeah meredith great job i think that's awesome i embrace this 100 percent as a winceton salem native any of our piedmont triad listeners which there are a few uh will know that the crankies air stream has been around for like what since you moved here for sure but i think like almost 30 years now what is what is the crankies airstream so there's an airstream trailer that sits uh in west end of winston salem um that has served coffee for like 30 years ish in that same out of that same air stream um and they now have a

like a brick and mortar location uh closer uh and in the middle of downtown and they're super popular around here um but that coffee shop has just kind of it's been the like probably the number one go-to people stop there and get their coffee uh and it's from here in winsett salem and it's in an airstream trailer which it's super awesome uh they've got decorated it's uh it's kind of crispy right hartsell yeah very very crunchy yeah i actually need to slap a hit d sticker on there they're never in my car they're always like it at the office or at home i need to work on that I should we should check and see if there's a full cast sticker on there there there would not surprise me if there is yeah it it would it would check out for sure

yeah this is y'all's kind of spot that air stream is not going anywhere though that thing is like on blocks yeah yeah yeah yeah it does sound like our kind of thing yeah um coffee trailers are pretty like i get the allure of the food truck but i'm also like that's a tough place to be like stuck in a very hot and potentially steamy smoky area if you're like cooking cooking but if you're just making coffee that's pretty good deal it just smells awesome all the time right right and like to meredith thing if you're just like hey i have romance books it's like that's that's super great there's no you don't need a flat top for that we're not grilling these i assume i should but they are hot they are hot they are interesting yeah books are steamy themselves

They're pre-steemed. They're spicy. Just add eyes. Jason, let's go with the one you picked out. I claim this one by Wes. The older I get, the more I find myself falling into the same routines, especially with entertainment. I'm mainly a college football and MMA fan. Looking to jump into a new sport I have no real knowledge about and see if I can become a fan,

seeing if you all have any suggestions. So I probably won't shock anyone that I'm going to say, first of all, on the surface level, this is a great time to go back to when you were like 16 years old and take a look at pro wrestling because this is the time of the year when not just WWE starts ramping up towards its big shows. This very weekend, in fact, is the Royal Rumble, one of the best defense of the year, which really kicks off the push toward WrestleMania, which is in Philadelphia. My daughter and I will be attending this year, very much looking forward to it. But also other companies as well, AEW. You have a push toward their big summer shows. You have lots of smaller companies that sort of bandwagon around WrestleMania, and they like to ramp stuff up as well,

including lots of small companies that do comedy shows and stuff. I have an additional opinion on top of that that's more specific to this year, year, which I think pro wrestling right now in America, is better than it has ever been. And now when I say that, someone will say, what about Stone Cold and the Rock? Yes, I remember them. I was there as well. Yeah, what was WCW like at the time? It was ass, okay?

Someone will say, what about NWO? Okay, what was WWF like at the time? Do you think we were kicking WCWS? Give me a hell, yeah. So, like, those big memories. If you want to keep bear with the attitude era. What? If you like the attitude era, let me tell you, there's a guy named L.A. Knight right now in W.W.E. who does nothing but attitude era cosplay. So, like, all the best of that, there's one guy who just does it as a comedy routine, but very seriously every single night. So, like, right now you have, like, so many companies are at a creative peak. It is not at, like, mass pop culture level, because there is no uniculture, monoculture anymore other than Taylor Swift.

But, like, as far as a creative product, it's as as it's as ever. been in America and like companies are pushing competition. There is no longer a 9,000 year old maniac in charge of the biggest company. Someone actually gets shit about stories. Where would you suggest somebody start? If they're like, I have a base level understanding of wrestling from what I've gathered from its past monoculture. Where should I begin? I would start with the Royal Rumble. Start big, start basic, start WWE, start big box. Do you know, don't, I'm I'm not going to send you first to Division III football. I'm going to say watch Bama, Ohio State, right?

Watch the Royal Rumble. It's big. It's crazy. It's chaotic. You'll learn about 1,000 personalities in the course of two or three hours. And you'll hook into a couple of their biggest stories going on right now. And then, I mean, A.W is on far too many times per week. There's lots of companies that put their stuff online.

AEW is a bit more like in the know and hardcore and nerdy. wwee is like if you want to play along with the story right like a w is for i cheer that guy because he's an effective villain wwee is i boo that guy because i am playing along with the villain role right those are the two basic reactions you can have server hartsell what new sport would you assign to wes uh i'll i mean i would i was going to say cycling and i'll still say cycling but uh wrestling is the right answer for this person, I think, and for all the reasons that Jason just said, the Cody Rhodes-C-N-Punk thing that's happening right now is going to be super cool,

and their match is going to be probably very, very good when it happens. And there's also this dude, Gunther that I really like, or Cooter. So fucking awesome. Yeah, he's really cool. He's, like, super old. So if you are, like, someone who liked wrestling way, way back, like, he is super old school, like Black Trunks wrestler. Um, but, uh, yeah, cycling this year is probably going to be one of the best years we've had.

Um, the Tour de France is actually the final stage is going to be a hilly time trial, which it's usually just a procession through Paris that doesn't count. It's actually going to be, make a big difference in the race this year. And it's, uh, the Tour de France is also two weeks before the, um, Olympic games. It actually happening while the Olympic games are happening. That's while the final stage is not in Paris. Remko Evanipole will be making his debut in the tour this year. He won the World Championship and the Volta of Spainia by the time he was 22 years old.

He's super young talent. Plus, there's a bunch of other young guys. Eunice Vingeguars won two straight tours. Matthew Vanderpull will probably be there. The cobbled classics in the spring are super fun to watch if you like high intensity cycling because it's like a fun TV product of that. time the tour de franz is more of a slow burn like take it easy in the early morning and uh enjoy the cycling race until something cool happens on a mountain um but it's a super nerdy sport but it's super

fun to get into and start uh learning about the uh the teams and the way they do it and like cycling's going through like a big change right now there's a lot of people proposing some like things called there's one thing called one cycling um which is essentially the live golf maybe live cycling that's about to happen um so it'd be interesting to watch if that sport has a big boom coming up but i don't know i don't want to get on my pet pedal so for cycling more wrestling is the better answer a server also do you are you still playing your cycling video game yeah i am yeah yeah i don't play i haven't played it as much lately um but yeah i am i'm doing how's that going is it uh uh yeah no um i'm probably my seventh year of the of the of managing

sudal quick step at the moment i've won like five tours to france but i did one year i won the uh the gero the tour in the volta which has never happened in real life so it's like it's also super hard to do on the video game because your your stats get super nerfed by the time really after you do the giro your stats are super nerfed in the tour because you're like people are tired or what yeah yeah like unless you unless you go in and like edit the the database like it's kind of impossible to do but lamps aren't Sean, that edited his database. Yeah.

Just bump all these sliders up, and we're good. Just fill a little on a spreadsheet a little bit. Yeah, it's probably the most, it's probably the most realistic feature of the cycling game that you could just, like, make somebody in 85 in mountains all of a sudden, which is, in fact, the highest you can have on the game. But, yeah, no, I play that game some still. I haven't played the wrestling game. I don't know if it's awesome. I found the wrestling games to be kind of hard now. there's like a managementy one kind of like that that it's on PC so I've never played it but I've seen people post stuff that happens and it's like procedurally generated stories and stuff and it's all very very we need what we need is like a final fantasy style RP wrestling RPG there is one yeah there are there yes yeah I haven't played it but I've seen like reviews of it it's it's fairly new it's like very it's exactly what you're picturing because I don't want I don't want to learn like button combinations I want to like select item and

It's like, share, like attack or heel or, and you're like assembling a party, it's exactly what you're picture. Okay, good, good, fantastic. Hartzell, any sport recommendation? I can't contribute to the wrestling talk. I just, I, yeah, I'm not wrestling, but, uh, I mean, look, I like watching professional golf. I think professional golf is dying. I think that's an, I think that's a sport that's in a really bad place right now. server knows i i'm a big soccer guy like especially on saturday mornings

uh i'd say like maybe check out some champions league action it's like on a tuesday or wednesday it happens during the work day matches are at like three o'clock like that's gold i think that stuff is awesome and teams you know unless you're like italian like games are ending like four one three two like it's it's it's like fast break football it's it's good stuff um you know the olympics are happening this summer i still get up for the olympics maybe it's the Atlanta in me but like i i like i like track and field i like all that stuff i think it's great and i think wasn't the last olympics in like japan or it was in asia and the the time difference was a thing like paris should sink up pretty well this summer

that that could be fun um but generally speaking you know i enjoy the offseason for college football and I even though I host a college basketball podcast I that's a sport that's really difficult just from an inventory standpoint it's really hard to watch it's fun to go to I enjoy it I enjoy I enjoy going to a college basketball game probably more than I definitely more than I enjoy watching it on TV but it's also I think a little easier to do than going to a college football game most hell yeah dude we go to Wake Forest games probably once every two weeks because the it's so easy to get to.

Yeah. It's non-threatening. Nobody is aggressive. There's no whether you have to worry about. You're not like, oh no. It's not four hours long. Right, right. It's easy.

Two hours in and out, man. Try to dance and get on the Jumbotron and like have a good time. I did have to explain to my daughter at the last Vandy women's basketball game that we go to that the Jumbotron is not TV to the outside world. So being on the Jumbotron is not the same thing as being in the whole world. did they play a memorial gym where the men play yeah like that's like a bizarre awesome yes arena like my my unique venue the weirdest part about it is that it's super easy to get lost inside because it's like so cavernous and weird and it's you can tell that it was like

built a long time ago and they're like I don't know just throw a basketball gym in the middle of this so it's very easy to be like where the fuck am I in here so you're on you've stepped up onto the court. Yes, yes. I am now in the game, and I am chucking up terrible three. Pinker down. Go doors. The women's team is pretty good this year.

The men's team is terrible. Dude, if, look, I came up in our company doing SEC women's basketball tournament coverage. I went for like seven straight years to the SEC women's basketball tournament. Women's basketball is in a very fun place right now. It's in college. It's truly never been. better like it's it's in it's it's entering like it's glory days it's got like a lot of good story lines a lot like between gino and tara vandavere you have sort of like the old guard

sort of like getting ready to sort of you know erasing coach k from the record books racing coach jay for the record books there's like a good i feel like there's a good amount of spread where it's not like oh this is the conference that's good at women's college basketball it's like very evenly spread out across the country there's rock stars like these girls are absolute rock stars but what i was going to say about vandy and the cc specifically is yes while it is a spread out sport uh the cc has got some amazing women's basketball teams 100% like just like if you if you could say the same thing about softball especially when oklahoma comes to the league like every cc softball team makes the nca tournament right literally all

of them and they're incredible so like like serber and i and felder actually have had this debate about like lacrosse we're like what if women's what if the cc was like we're going to get into women's lacrosse like how long would it take for them to be like kicking the aces's ass in lacrosse i don't think it would take very long at all the one thing that would upset the aces has no longer been the best at lacrosse now you've gone too far that's all we had Yeah, it's true. But like, now we agree with you, and you're a girl, dad. So, like, I mean, going and taking her to those games, like, that's awesome.

I think that's really cool. The downside is we went to a Florida game once, a Vandy Florida game once. And she was like, Dad, do you know these people? And I was like, absolutely not. I'm like twice as old as they are. But you're classmates with them. But yeah, they're your friends, 100%. That's awesome.

Let's see. All right. So we got one from Ben. Ben has moved into a new house and is a first-time homeowner at age 37. And he said, I'm excited to go full dad mode, even though I'm not a dad yet, and tinker with small weekend projects all year long. I asked them for his top three projects, and I want to get feedback on all of them. Number one, purchase slash install a magnetic knife bar on the kitchen wall.

Is this a thing any of you have? No. No, this is a thing I want. It seems OP as fuck. please expand on that well you're just adding counterspace that a knife block like it's taking up for no reason sure and and like i don't like the idea of putting my knives in the knife block when i pull them out a month and a half later when i need to use them again they never look the same uh i don't know the knife block is just it's just a waste of counter space and the idea that i can just easily grab it off the wall in front of me having worked in restaurants and like in food prep areas at uh in delis like where that was a thing it was super convenient to have that we're i would be too tempted to try to like throw the knife back on to the magnet yeah but i think i would fuck it up as well oh you mean like that not not not not not overhand like john wick but sort of

like flat blade it sort of like toss it over there let it go and let it yes yes yes it bounces off and cuts your hand yes that's all right it bounces back and it stouts me right in the eye. Generation that cannot exist because of the final destination films. 100%. That's why I won't drive behind log trucks either. I mean, Ben, that's an achievable project. Like, that can be done in two hours.

Yes. No problem. Number two, buy a Raspberry Pi, install Homebridge to unify all the smart systems that don't want to play together. We don't have to get into the niceties of this, but I don't have a smart home. And I don't want a smart home. My wife and I both don't like the robots listening to us. We don't have any of it.

We don't have an Alexa. We don't have a Wi-Fi lock, an electronic lock. The most we have is like a sono system where you can play music from another room. But like, we don't even have like a remote that you can talk into to tell the TV to find something. Am I incredibly old by shunning all of these, all of the smart? home technology? No. You might be, but I am as well.

Like, we got a new, we got an electric door lock and it's like you can, you can do your thumb or whatever. I'm like, no. I need code. I'm not trusting the thumb. Someone can cut my thumb off. What if it thinks my thumb is someone else's thumb? I've never met this thing.

I don't know this thing. Yeah. Like, no, I'm not talking to my fridge ever. I'm not buying any coffee machine with DRM ever. No, like none of that shit. I have anything to be smart. I have a friend who has an oven that is connected. to Wi-Fi so that in theory you can like preheat your oven on the way home from the grocery store or something sounds dangerous when their Wi-Fi goes out their oven is essentially bricked like if they lose the internet they can't operate the oven

red ring of death also I'm not starting a fire at my house if I'm not there I don't give a shit sure I don't care yeah yeah I'll be I'll be honest you said raspberry pie that's the thing that I thought you used to like put like the NES and the super NES you can do that as well It's like an all-purpose little baby computer. Yeah. Yeah, you should do that instead with that thing. I was nodding initially because I was like, yeah, get that. And then you went on into the smart home shit. I was like, no, no, no, no, no. With Sega Genesis on it.

Serber, I think what you're getting at is what's actually going to happen. Like, I'm going to hack into the Matrix and wire my entire home to be empowered by a single device. And then I played TurboGraphics 16 all day long. Yeah. Oh, shoot. I can get the burger time, like, arcade console on here? Fuck all that project shit Controller on Amazon

Oh shit But Ben if it makes you happy That's great I'm glad it works for other people It's just not for me Ryan do you not have like a nest doorbell No No

Wow So I feel like you're in the minority there Yeah that probably is a thing that Like I am I am The last One of the last people to have

Is some sort of camera on my house but I don't. But part of that is that I work at home, so I'm not worried about like, oh, packages are at my house all day. Like, I hear them and I go get them. That's fine. Respect.

Yeah. I get it. Number three, mount a floating wall shelf for record player. I have, I don't love floating wall shelves myself. I just never, I never feel confident in them.

Confident that they're going to stay on the wall? Correct. yes i'm always like they just feel kind of like i i will say i have built a like from from wood a floating shelf that i feel felt pretty good about but like the ones you buy and it's like mounted this i'm always like this shit is flimsy maybe i'm just cheap maybe i'm just stupid i'm curious if the reason that they want to put it on the wall is because when they're stepping on their floor maybe the vibration is coming through whatever they have their record player on causing the record player to skip yeah if that is instead of doing a building a whole shelf

i would recommend they make some mats for that if that's your problem if that's not your problem i don't know that putting it on the wall's going to solve it either i think the vibrations could still cause that it sounds more like you might be heavy-footed uh that's the story i'm making up in my head because i don't because you still need access to the record player so at that point i don't i don't know unless you really need the storage underneath for something else like i would just try recommend getting anytime you're doing anything with a record player i just say to get the ikea cubes they're perfect like put put everything on your ikea cubes and your records go in there perfectly they store really well in them like i don't have anything else from ikea but i have those things

for and i for all my records and they and it works super super good i think the wall shelf we had one and we we took it we uninstalled it we took it out because it's just at a certain point we were like this this i don't we don't need this here which a bookshelf you can easily you can just move so that's what we've done with that except we we haven't put it back up anywhere else sir would you recommend if uh if my record player is skipping i just hold it yeah yeah just hold it carrying it yeah um you can put it in your car while you ride around and uh if it just gets used to that eventually it'll be fine it'll help it's sleeping it up a little bit yeah grind some XP yeah uh and

then Ben's bonus, which I really like. And Ben, you should do all. It's your house. Like the beauty of having your own house is you can do whatever you want to it. It doesn't matter if I like it. It's yours. But Ben's bonus, which I think is a real, real smart one. Replace gas range with induction. Have any of y'all used an induction stovetop before? No. They are magical. They are. So the one limitation with induction is that they, you have to, you can't use any kind of pot and pan on top of it. It has to be made of a material that the induction cooktop can work with. But the way it works basically is the cook surface itself doesn't get hot. It,

this is me trying to do science, so I apologize. I'm going to fuck this up. It creates particle vibrations in the pot or pan itself that help heat it directly and help heat whatever it has directly so and i have georgia tech shit is that it's very cool because you can on an induction cooktop you can get a pot of water boiling in 30 seconds 45 seconds yes yes and then and then the nice thing is when you take your pot off there will be some heat on the cook surface because it's got the radiant heat from the pot itself but the surface itself doesn't have any remaining heat so they cool down a lot quicker. They're a lot easier to like move things if you're like, I just cooked on this and I want to move it over here. They're very cool. They are very cool. They do, however,

if you're somebody who cooks a lot, they require some practice because like to go back to the boiling water example, if I'm doing something where I'm like, okay, I am, I'm making broccoli and rice. And I know in my head, like, this is how long it's going to take the rice. Part of that calculation is this is how long it's going to take the water to boil but now that the water boils super quick it's like oh i have to adjust that as well so you do have to get used to a little bit doing it but um highly recommend um hartzel do we need to let you go since i know you have like real stuff to do in your life no i'm i'm good i'm fine okay i am worried about Felder like legitimately I am a little I'm a little thrown yeah um like I

feller if you hear this afterwards we we are worried about you yeah where you are you out buddy uh server let's go with the one you picked out um yes so senator giggedy uh wrote in how does uh one get into light horticulture specifically for the lazy please um just I mean Get some houseplants, man. Yeah? Is that the move? Yeah, don't over,

don't overdo it. Because, like, you're going to kill some stuff to start out. You know, not everything's going to go great. And if you go too hard, you might be super bummed out. You might get, like,

drop immediately out of it and be like, I can't do this. So just, like, start small. Do it a little bit. bit find something that's like just google stuff that's easy to to not mess up like an aloe plant or something like that you know that's a great starter same with outdoors too keep it in pots don't put it in the ground that's where it can get it can get a little dicey you need to like you need to do some deep martha stewart like diving to understand like how to be at that level

um like i can't i i'm not even i don't even feel comfortable just planting something in the ground thinking it's going to take um so yeah just do some houseplants see if that works and then if you're into it and you don't kill everything and you don't like get bummed out with it just like till up a little spot and you know start growing like your own vegetables or something like that yeah or like plant a flower bed or herb garden or something like that it's hard to really herbs are really A little rosemary plant. It's hard to kill a basil plant. And even if you do, it's like,

ah, just give me some water. I'll come back. Yeah. That's the level we're at. We have a little herbs. But it's very, very practical. Yeah. Don't overdo it.

Server's right. Don't be like, oh, man, I'm going to have an apple orchard. Nah, you're not. Uh-huh. Just keep it in the pots, man. You'll be right. And you're acknowledging you're lazy. So, like, I don't think you're going to go too hard at this,

but just like get one thing get one or two things um we have a pair that i'm going to join together here bob bought a piano two weeks ago and is learning to play it and once he is good but not too good he's going to send us his version of the theme song he bob says yes this is a threat um a little side note we'll get back to here i'm curious if bob bought a like straight up piano piano like a standing piano or a keyboard it's fine if you just bought a keyboard but like i'm learning to play this thing that i just this piece of furniture that I just bought is a big big decision and then um the other one was from katherine Catherine said I'm starting med school this summer good for you Catherine

don't go to law school go to med school instead and want to pick the piano back up are there any fun songs I should try and learn I have an answer in my head but server you you are the musician amongst us and I want to know if you had any suggestions oh man I don't know fun because i can't play piano um just pick a song that you know that you're you're you're intimately familiar with and like you you know it will come very naturally to you and that will be fun like don't try and learn something that is super difficult um or like try to take a step that you can't you can't take yet just pick a song that you know that seems straightforward enough and you will it will be really fun for you the process will be fun and you probably won't give up you'll stay

you'll stay into it. I have, so my, my kid is a really good little piano player. One of her favorite things to do is to take like a movie theme or a TV show theme and play her learn the piano version of it and she'll put a spin on it. She'll either make it more grandiose

or more peppy or whatever. And it's fun. Like she'll play the Jurassic Park theme and anyone who's at our house is like, why have I never heard that on piano before? So stuff like that. She watched Lord of the Rings once and then she's playing the um the the uh the uh the uh the shire theme um but yeah i think i think because like it's these are usually short songs right like if you do a tv theme that's a really short song you don't have to learn a

whole lot but it's one that it's a great party trick right yes if you play an identifiable um song that people know and they're not used to thinking of as as music be used to thinking of this is i was going to suggest uh biz marquis just a friend then you can sing as well yes that's right that's right that's right because it feels like it's not overly complicated and it's certainly an approachable piece to learn plus like I would really like to have a doctor who knew how to play Bismarkees just a friend on the piano like I think that's a lot better yeah I'd be like oh you're you're a cool doctor and I feel good about the advice that you're giving me how bad could this possibly be

sheet that y'all want to do before we wrap up uh tc internet's asks are any of you looking at coming to the indy 500 i've never thought i've never thought about it i guess i could go to the indy 500 yeah it's sort of thing we're like once you're an adult you're like i can attend literally any event i just pay enough money and and then i'm in there but it's it's one that's sort of just uh never crossed my mind as attendable i don't know that i've ever been to any auto race i have been to like um whoa i've been to like like like a i know but i've been to like yankee lawyer yeah well liberal ryan nanny i've been to drag races before and i've been to like um it's not oh god basically where you get like a real beat up truck and you race around and you

try to just destroy each other yeah demolition derby yes that's the word i was looking for i've been to I've done Western Derby and I've been to drag races but I've never been to like an NASCAR event an indie event nothing like that yeah I've only I did Spencer and I did Talladega a few years ago yeah I think that's the only NASCAR I've done yeah it's cool I'll shout out right here in Winston's Salem we have we have something called Bowman gray stadium it's one of the oldest NASCAR sanction tracks in the country and every Saturday night starting in the spring all throughout summer they do races for they do a stadium stock series was a bunch of old mustangs they do sportsman division they have the cool loud

modifies that go um that go uh in a circle really fast um and they do they do things like a something called a chain race where you chain two cars together and one car has the gas and the other car has the brakes um they do something called a skid plate race which uh one car will be um will be on will be on skids and just be skidding around uh they do demolition derby there'll be a monster truck there that's what always closes the event but um it's a it's a super cool thing i'm proud of it in wilson salem because it's something that's been happening since like the late 40s early 50s i think um and everybody from richardt to dale earnhardt to lee petty um ralph earnhardt dale earnhardt junior race there um pretty much anybody who's anybody in nascar has raced

at bowman gray and it's also the home football stadium of the winston salem state rams so it's a cool spot an historic venue in Winston so if you're ever in North Carolina around that time on a weekend highly recommend you come to Bowman Gray and check it out all right I'm going to wrap it up with one more pairing here this is from first one's from Verl I recently completed cancer treatment and so we'll have about 50 times as much energy as last year what do I do with this first of all congrats to you Verl and then And the companion piece that goes with it was a brag sent in by Mike. This spring, I'm going on two vacations with my wife, one to Belize and one to Costa Rica.

It's been something we've been planning for years now. It's extra special because she was diagnosed with a rare brain cancer. Epidomoma, probably not how you say that, grade three in 2020. And this will be the first time she's been able to travel without having to bring along a small pharmacy of chemo drugs. she's doing well. In fact, she's off treatment and in, quote, surveillance, which is basically like remission. That gets me to my best advice. When you're in the off season, or if you have a moment, make sure you take time to do those things you want to do. We push out a lot of stuff until retirement, or maybe next season, but make sure you go take that trip, do that thing, commit that

crime. Go make some memories. Y'all have been through shit. Go take some time. And also, Mike wants to give a shout out to the fine folks at the collaborative Epidimoma Research Network for being so amazing and helping folks out. It's a rare cancer, so any awareness does wonder. This, uh, first of all, Mike's, Mike's wife, happy to hear that you're doing much better and much like rural. Um, and I don't know, good advice for everybody. It's really easy, I think, to sort of just be like, oh, you know, we'll do that when we have more money or we have more time or when our kids are older or whatever. But like, uh, waiting is not always that awesome. And sometimes you just have to go do the fun thing and just be happy that you

did the fun thing I suspect it's the thing I'm trying to work on at least yeah sometimes you look up and you think like oh I 10 years ago I said we'd get around to doing that and we never right right now it's and now it's canceled it doesn't now it's gone yeah I like to look at things like Kirby smart you know he looked dry it's like man it's been 30 years since we won a national championship let's just go ahead and win a bunch of let's just do it and and so he did some yeah you got to make those types of choices for sure yeah yeah Mark was too cautious to we'll win a national championship in retirement that is literally how it worked

though we'll win a national championship when we have the money and then they just spent so that's that's our last piece of advice to you listeners get rid of your money get rid of money's not real money isn't real and uh the ocean will swallow us all one day so like before then go to portugal or some shit go to Portland. Go to any place that has port in it. And you'll learn the ways of the ocean so that you can outsmart. That's right. That's right. That's right.

Befriend the ocean. Save us all from the ocean. Speaking of the ocean, swallowing us all, in honor of Felder, no call, no showing this episode. Him and I have a bet and Cerber knows this. I think you do too, Ryan, because you listen to a lot of the shows.

Yeah. K. Pateras. The lighthouse. 50 years from now. Well, actually, like, 47 years from now. Let's call it 47 years from now. Yeah. Will it still be here? Yes or no?

What side of the better, you are just... The year is 2081. It's just straight yes or no, even odds? No, hang on. The year is 271. The math doesn't... Yeah, the math didn't check out there. English major here.

2071. Ser and I have, or Felder and I have a one. $1,000 bet on this. This would be two this. So first of all, by the time we get to 50 years, inflation will have rendered this a $10 bet. So congratulations. Great. That'll make it easier. Holler at one of them with 10 bennies and it's all right. I'm going to say yes because people will decide to do whatever it takes to keep it. Like if they move the lighthouse, does that count as standing. Yes, it does.

Yes. This is, yes. Thank you. So yes, I think they will do what they have to do to preserve it

in some way, shape, or form and not let it fall into the ocean. Yeah, I don't think they'll let it fall into the ocean. Where do you come down on this, Jason? It's at a very perilous spot, so some work will have to happen.

That thing is out there. But yeah, I think it's, If it's so well known that bets are being placed on it, then I think this also raises the question of, what if one of you moves it just to win the bet? So if you decide to expend $2 million to win a thousand dollar bet? Yeah, which at that point, I'm not trying to move it. I'm just saying between now and 2071, there will be some superstorm that cancels out K-Patter's.

What? The Lord of Feldner moves it. All we're saying is that you've now put yourself on the side of rooting for a, a super storm to take out a historic north carolina landmark rooting for it he's just following the science listen if it's 2070 and that lighthouse is downed I'm going to have my suspicions oh 100% you know Hartzell bomb that shit you know elderly Hartzell got in there with a backhoe and took it out he did it with a $900 bomb so he's coming out ahead who's this old

Sam with the sledgehammer at Cape Harris. Bonk. Bonk. Bonk. Officer, it's about a podcast. Ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Y'all, I'm sorry. I'm supposed to be on the show.

I missed the show. But I did have some thoughts, personally. Bob, you got a piano. two weeks ago and you're learning to play piano go for it I would say go for the cheers theme song that sounds like a good idea originally purchased my grandparents former home I did the same thing and it sucks but you're going to live there so that's a good idea you do have to rip up that linoleum because I guarantee they have and so you got to fix that um we got west west um here we go the older i get your 40 you're 46 now

some routines i'm mainly a college football and mma fan looking to jump into a new sport um man you know what just make sure it's not pickleball honestly that's all the advice i have um Ethan tith wedding 10th wedding anniversary. Awesome, dude. I am one year from that. That's awesome. I dig it. You go to Vegas. There's a million restaurants in Vegas, Ethan, so don't worry about it. You can go anywhere. You're going to have a good stuff. Go something off strip, honestly, if I'm going to say that. Sebastian, this is the first spring in about five years. We've had both the time and the energy to make consistent beach outings. We've spent those years stocking up with coolers uh but do you have a shibumi if you don't have a shibumi

shaboo yeah get the fuck out of here um veggie base beach grill options y'all pineapple pineapple is that a vegetable no it's a fruit but go pineapple pineapple is great and so I'm going with that Go pineapple. You're going to love it. Pineapple, especially if you do molasses, or not molasses, if you do like a season salt on top of that, go pineapple. Oh, wow. This, Mike, you wrote a very long one.

This spring to vacations with my wife, one to Belize, one to Costa Rica. Okay, you're rich. We get it. It's been something I've been planning for years now. It's extra special. I feel bad now because you said, God knows what spring? cancer that's not good that gets me to my best advice you're the all season if you have a moment

now I feel terrible holy shit god damn son I feel horrible this is bad server cut this out I already missed the podcast because I took a nap I feel horrible now

but yeah go to Belize. Go to Costa Rica. My brother and my sister-in-law, they take my mom to Costa Rica and to Belize like twice a year. So this is a good idea. You are 100% correct. My mom retired and then she gets to go to Turks and Caicos. Like that's, you're 100% correct. Like, this is a great idea. This is fantastic. Yeah, you're right. I felt bad. I was going to say something negative and now I'm, listen, Mike, you turn a negative into a positive. Look at that. I bought a wheel pedals and VR headset to play Grand Turismo while the kids are asleep.

It rips. Man. Okay. I have an Oculus and I don't use it. I am starting med school this summer and I want to pick the piano back up. Is this a different person? and the other person that bought the piano? Fun songs you should learn, Catherine, are Mungo Jerry in the summertime.

Absolutely. My wife and I are expanding our first baby this off-season. Are expecting. Oh, wow, that was bad reading on my part, huh? I thought you said you're expanding your first baby. I was like, that. What are you going to do? Just like make your baby big?

Ooh, that was bad. No. How should we decorate the nursery? I say we, so our nursery here is elephants. I say elephants or dinosaurs. Elephants are dinosaurs. Doesn't matter the gender, sex, whatever you want, of the baby. Elephants or dinosaurs, we have actually a hand, and this is one of my favorite things. We have a hand, a hand drawn,

um we have a hand drawn elephant skull in our in my daughter's um nursery or she's not a nursery now because she's not a kid or she's not a baby she's she's a kid now but we have a hand drawn elephant skull uh from one of our really good friends who does art and it's an elephant skull and it's super cool so i love that um what else we got been i'm excited for the work trip to Ohio and we'll be within the path of the total eclipse I don't I hate space so I'm not gonna even go pat go to that my wife and I are taking the girls to space all more Spain oh good make sure you have a mustache like Antonio Banderas I think that would be very cool any small engine maintenance or upkeep tips to make sure the

mowers ready for the spring I would say first of you need to listen to the hand in the dirt. Second of all, you've got to check the choke. Check the choke, and then you'll be good to go. I'm going to make an effort to use my cookbooks more. My favorite cookbook is Deep Run Roots. That's Vivian Howard. Love her.

Shout out to Georgia is a verb. Okay. Having moved into a house and being a first-time homeowner at age of 37, I'm excited this has been to go full dad mode, not even being a dad yet, with Tinker and Tinker with small weekend projects all year along. I have strong opinions on kitchen upgrades. I asked Ben's top three projects and they are purchase, install magnetic knife bar on the kitchen wall.

That's fantastic. That is a very good idea. buy a Raspberry PI install HomeBridge to unify all the smart systems like HomeKit Nest that don't want to play together if you can find a way

to make your Google play with your Alexa I'm all for it Mount Floating Wall Shelf 4 record player man I honestly the last one you threw me off you threw me off on that one replace gas rage with induction you're for okay you're wrong keep the gas range gas range is money gas range is where you need to be

you need to live in gas range zone so don't replace it induction can live somewhere else but you don't have to replace that gas range that's just a fact dude and uh here we go let's see where we're at I know you guys didn't want to hear eight minutes of this server's going to cut it down. What should I do for a bachelor's party sometime between now and June? See, I was, man, if I wasn't taking a nap, I would have killed this question. Madison, Milwaukee, Chicago, go to New Orleans. That's what you should do. Don't go there. Unless you go there in June, Third Brock, don't go there. Don't go to Madison or Milwaukee or Chicago. If you're in Dallas, go to New Orleans. That's a fact.

Any of you looking at coming to the Indy 500? No. I have decided to add a metal slide to the tree house I built last year. Okay, well, your kids' thighs are going to be burned, Jeffrey. Do you want them to be hot, hot, hot, hot, hot on fire? Yep, okay, no problem. Oh, wow. Renovating, re-innovating, wow, what in the idiot.

Renovating a shasta, compact trailer. Romance Bookshop Peach Basket Books Ah, this is our Meredith This is our Meredith Look at you Shout out to our Meredith

Don't cheat on us with them Don't cheat on us with the full cast You're our Meredith We like you. You're our Meredith. How does one get in a light horticulture? You just try it out. Last offseason took my 8-year-old to a dinosaur camp out in northwestern Wyoming. Oh, that's very, this, you know what, I can't read this out loud because Swamp King,

I can't read this out loud because next thing I know when the end of it in Wyoming. I recently completed cancer treatment, and so I have about 50 times as much energy as last year. What I do with this? Push-ups. You got to do push-ups. push-ups that's the answer push-ups you're gonna be super buff and just like you're gonna be buff dude like just just do the push-ups or you know what actually you know what better answer so start sewing but they both work and then uh this is okay this is grill

idiot i'm already pretty good at making pizza this year i'm going to get really serious about it and probably very annoying too what's your sauce game look like though hit me up at in the bleachers on Twitter what's your sauce game look like because so many people use like this weak-ass sauce but if you got some sauce game that's how you do it what's your sauce game look like because hey my sauce game was good enough to to put me to bed So I miss the entire podcast, and now I have to just do a CODA at the end. You know what, though?

Michael Serber is the freaking Martin Scorsese of this whole shit. And this is the CODA. I don't know. Ah! Ah! Yeah! I don't know. No.

No.