Shutdown Fullcast - Week 1: Butthole Eyes & Hot Marshall
Episode Date: August 27, 2025A review of Week 0, the college football soft openToday we learned we're on the IMDB trivia page for Terry BoatassRyan has a (non-lethal! Probably) gameIf you were wondering how After Dark is going to... work this season, that information is now available to youLet's work up a nice hate-on for the Week 1 schedule, shall weWhich team earns the distinction of "Hot Marshall"?Which player does Surber not trust because he has "butthole eyes"?Now through September 30, 100% of proceeds from PTKU merch will be donated to Mid-South Trans Nation. Visit preownedairboats.com to find the finest Blue Sharks gear and other Fullcast-related itemsFullcast theme song arranged and performed by Trey McClureSubscribe to our new $4 Patreon for more Fullcast stuff big and small, including After Dark episodes each CFB weekendCheck out Surber’s band, Killer Antz and his new show, PodcasterinoListen to Phantom Island, Ryan’s new show with Godfrey, which is not a college football show because another simply cannot existCheck out Jason's critically praised novel and other workDID YOU KNOW: Holly and Spencer write Channel 6, their own year-round newsletter, mostly about football until it's notVisit HOMEFIELDAPPAREL DOT COM for all your comfy vintage oh-fficially licensed collegiate apparel needs
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If you guys think Butch Jones will be invited to Taylor So Sweating.
Can I tell you that Jason adding this to the show doc, like half an hour before recording, is how I found out?
Because of Jason's place of employment, does that count as a New York Times push alert?
Oh, shit.
I think it does.
Oh, no, I got an actual New York Times push alert about it.
Yeah, well, we send multiple.
Man.
Yeah, this means Butch Jones is going to be there.
I think that's official.
Because the way you build a marriage is brick by brick.
You take the bride.
Then you make sure that she encapsulates the groom in a series of brick enclosures.
It capsulates.
Yeah.
That's what they're calling it these days.
And, sir, I think that's the cask of a Monteado.
I don't think that's marriage.
What is the cask of a marriado, if not a marriage?
Isn't it a story about trust?
They got wine.
They're hanging out together.
Marriage of numbers and masonry.
Today I'm exploring the intersection of,
of your body and this pile of stones.
Love that, love a story about a guy who's so annoyed.
He like basically entombed someone.
That's great.
It's the first shadow banning when you think about,
no, I guess there's probably a biblical precedent
for shadow banning, right, Jason?
I'm sure we've gone on 5,000 years ago.
No, that's, that's banned.
Jonah knows he's in a whale, dude.
Educate yourself.
He's pretty good at Jonah didn't.
No, that we're gonna do it.
in here. It took him a minute. Does Jonah have
koala brain? Is that what you're a certain? His tent is moist.
It did not take him a minute to notice he was not drowning. I bet it took him a minute
to figure out where it was though. He's like, oh, this is wild. You think he didn't see
the mouth? They all had lead poisoning back then. Fun fact, fun fact tidbit from the next
episode of the Vacation Bible School podcast in Islam. Their stories about Jonah, Allah makes the
fish transparent so
that Jonah can regard the mysteries
of the deep as he is within the fish
The fish became a submarine.
That's pretty sweet.
But like a tourist submarine, right?
Like a glass bottom fish.
Yes.
Nemo became the Nemo?
Muslim Jonah has made me wish
for nothing more than Wes Anderson to direct
the story of Jonah and the big fish.
Man.
The life aquatic.
I hate the little.
Sure.
Sure.
You didn't need to do that.
I did.
I did, though.
You didn't.
I'm so excited.
You're a willful man who can't be constrained.
Like Travis Kelsey.
Much like Butch Jones when he's invited to Taylor Swift's wedding.
And somebody just posted about Steve Spagnolo, talking defense with Phoebe Bridgers.
Notice you were playing a lot of too high last year.
Antinoff and Andy Reed hanging out.
That's right.
Rick Sanchez's post from a million years ago, like, when they very first started dating about, like, Andy Reid meeting the Hame Sisters.
Have you considered adding a gentle synthwash to your offense?
Andy Reed and the Ame Sisters is my favorite phenomenon here. As long as he dances with him. Yeah.
Oh, surely.
Oh, he's absolutely doing that. I love that Travis did it. He did it like...
In shorts.
Did it in shorts. So your band is called Ham? Have you all seen this and I haven't?
it's uh it's like probably already the biggest post in instagram history i don't know shit okay um
i choose to believe he is the english teacher for what it's right yeah yeah yeah she's she's she could
pass as a volleyball coach she's tall yeah yeah i guess people don't give her credit for that she's tall as hell
she also like she's very girl tall like not not w nba tall but like girl tall can i off
elementary schools have like the wiry PE teacher who's been there for 67 years i'm gonna offer
a potentially controversial opinion until you think about the numbers right now in terms of cardio
conditioning t swift's conditioning is way better than travis's football football conditioning overall
short burst right Travis is not out there doing Travis Kelsey not a real athlete
there are many kinds of conditioning and also it's like the end of fall camp Travis is probably
in decent shape right now can he do can he do three hours on stage I don't think so dance numbers
There are many kinds of conditioning
Yeah, he's gassed
Spencer Hall
Chiefs fail
How old is she?
We'll miss playoffs
Because we're going to pro rate this based on age
Oh, she's 35 so
She's like
Damn
I'm telling you she's got the
She's got the edge in terms of
Adjusted for age
She's definitely got more
Performance time left in her than he does
That's for sure
T Swift
Way more snaps left
She used to be dancing for 30 years.
He ain't.
His contract is an albatross comparatively, yes.
Listen, his contract.
He's only got this one tour left in him, man.
He's got one tour left in him, and then he is going to do what?
He's going to play PlayStation.
No, I'm going to tell you what he's going to do because actually this is going to come all back around.
You know what he's going to do for the next 30 years?
Backup dancer for Taylor Swift.
He's on the Blue Ivy track, yeah.
Their conditioning is equal, I would say.
He's on the Serena's Red.
husband tracking.
Listen, critical support to that, man, because I had a lot of doubt.
But he appears, like, he has appeared in enough very high-profile Instagram posts of his own
carrying signs that say Serena's husband and, like, holding her purse on the red carpet
and being real happy about it.
I also am among those who want to note that, yes, Travis got this done while wearing shorts.
so
on New Yorkers who want to post Vox posts
about like shorts are bad for you
and I don't like looking at shorts
bounce your eyes away from my alluring thigh tattoos
because shorts are here to stay
shorts are as of now
the most attractive, cool
and luxurious garment you can possibly wear
I mean they already wear
but all shorts stouters
can just go cry about it somewhere
thank you
reasonable enough
winners wear shorts
there you have it but yes butch jones um will uh i mean probably had a groomsman like he did
you know kick travis out of cincinnati briefly before letting him back in for smoking weed in new
orleans i'll tell you the first person ever smoked weed in new orleans surely i'll tell you this
brian kelly's not going to be the ring bearer that's for damn sure when when that guy touched a ring
Brian, come on, man.
Where else is a man with his height supposed to fit in at that level of festivity?
That's cruel.
He could be a high top table.
Bush Jones is not tall.
Have you seen it?
Have you seen?
I'm not wondering who's taller.
Don't let Brian, don't let Brian Kelly near a ladder or any other sort of thing.
Okay.
I think often about whoever the ESPN director was who put Brian Kelly on the game day set
in the high chair next to Maria Taylor.
And he had to be interviewed while just his little legs were swinging and she's there in all of her like normal limbed glory.
He looks a lot like he looks a lot like the gangster puppet from the Batman animated series.
I know which one I'd rather hang out with.
I like the Boston version of Cotton Hill.
Cotton, Bunkahill. Is that just Beacon Hill?
Yeah, Bunkahill.
it is.
Quotten.
Quotten.
Quotten.
I lost my kneecaps fighting tojo.
Yeah.
I'm so absolutely geeked for the notion of how hard Butch Jones is going to hit the snack bar,
because if we know anything, coaches are all about the free lunch.
If you read the profile of Corso, like half of Chris Vanini's oral history of Corso on Game Day is him raiding free food.
It's like five different college game day colleagues who are like, bro,
as soon as Corsos sees the snack bar, he's got this, one of them called it literally an old-ass satchel,
that he's just shoveling armloads of Doritos and Mountain Dew into it.
And then he goes to the hotel and he says, sweetheart, I'm not going to dinner.
I'll be at the hotel eating snacks and pounded NyQuil.
I got a prep.
And they'll say, like, you go to his room to drop some off and literally, there he is, in his bathroom.
pounded in dew and drinking NyQuil.
He says good night.
He says good night at one point by going,
good night, sweetheart, and he like puts out his cigar,
takes a shot of NyQuil and rolls over,
and I'm like, oh my God, are you a Houston rapper?
This is exactly what a Houston rapper's nighttime regime
regimen used to be.
I'm zoned off.
Yeah, I'm slumped off the quill.
Big Q got these 425 defenses dancing in my head.
This was Christopher Comrani and Justin Williams.
Sorry.
They know Chris Finini very well.
They do, yes.
Chris Vanini, who, by the way, outstanding NCAA video game football player.
What was your latest result, coach?
Latest results.
You played Kirshner yesterday.
Do you want to know?
Yeah, I did.
I play Kirsch.
I played Big Kirsch.
Respect all my opponents.
Big time respect to Appalachian State.
We went in there.
Took them very seriously, which is why we took belt to that ass.
Woo!
Yeah.
Good heavens.
And won by a score, I believe, of 13.
3420. God, anybody really can win at Memphis. Coach, do you think Kersner's a little bit of a post-wedding
haze? Does he need to focus on ball at this time? Is his bride a distraction? Oh, now we're tennis
commentators. Has priorities become a award coach? Is Alex Kirchner's beautiful wife and new relationship
and new marriage, a distraction from the grind? Many are saying all the cookout that appeared at his
wedding has his steered coach awry from helming the mountaineers. I would point out that for somebody
who has said that Ryan Silverfield is in trouble
for three years without any real sort of basis
for that kind of assumption
that this is revenge
that the irony of one
losing to Memphis and two being proven
right because I am not Ryan Silverfield
I was the coach for Memphis
his regards I did indeed succeed
it is true Memphis is better
without Ryan Silverfield
Alex was right
Alex was right yeah we
I'm seven and one seven and one had to
yeah fellas who is who is leading
the dynasty who's you know josh black was beating the shit out of everyone oh shit black lost josh has an edge though
because he's he's missu he's mazoo and we're all like no power teams he got some high school kid to give him like
oh he's been he plays this game round the fucking clock yeah he's like he's like an informal beta tester for this
he's he came in he's the one we were all terrified of but he dropped a game yesterday i believe it was charles
did you drop one of charles i believe so which gives me which gives me a retroactive win over josh but which i'm
going to feel bad about once I have to play Josh
and get crushed. But
who is Josh playing as?
Mizzou. Mizzou.
And what, like, the rest of us are like
low tier ACC.
Josh, hey, listen, you know how
who's at the bottom of the standings?
That's what I want to.
Oh, not me.
We don't need to pick on any one street.
I'm slowly learning to play the game.
We're all in the process.
We're all in the process of
various stages of rebuilding.
And as coaches, we don't like to
throw each other under the bus like that.
What are they hiding from you listeners?
Ryan, if you had ever put toe to leather,
if you had ever been in trenches,
maybe you in the media would understand
what it's like for those of us
who are trying to turn these boys into young men
via the game of American football.
I can't believe Jason just Dan Hawkins to me.
I mean, you can play intermurals when you're ready, brother,
because they're ready for you.
I told Dan Hawkins once when we were next.
each other in a radio booth that I have broken my hand, which I broke slamming a door,
chasing a dog through my house. I told him I broke it in a bar fight, and he believed me without
question. I have nothing bad to say about Dan Hawkins. The only time I've been around Dan
Hawkins, he was a coach at like an elite 11 camp, and it was like around 2015, and he was using
2008-era hip-hop slang to connect with the youths. And it was endearing. I enjoyed it. Yeah, I don't
remember exactly what he said but i sometimes you have a loss where you see a team turning around that
does happen in football that was my loss to josh because prior to that big struggle i lot ended up losing
3831 to a much better missou team but i scored 31 on him and i was like ah okay teams turning around
the corner we got a lot of confidence out of that loss actually really proved that we belonged there
just had you know cinch up tighten up a few things you know once you see what the standard is coach
i find it's a lot easier to then take go back to your young man and say
That is who we want to be.
That is not who we are.
That is who we want to be.
And then they do more sit-ups and stop going to class so they can focus on doing push-ups.
What do you do?
Dump your girlfriend.
Do a bunch of sit-ups, okay?
Pray.
You got to do a lot of preying.
Skip class.
Pray while running laps.
Take this nandrolone.
I need you to take all of this bootleg Mexican pharma that we got for you off the back of a truck
of West Memphis. And what I need you to do is I need you to think about excellence.
For two hours per day. Two hours a day. I just need you to visualize. I need you to look up
Hope Corps on TikTok and just watch all of those crying Vince Carter videos. Just fill your brain
with that SpongeBob doing sweet victory, whatever you freaks like. Listen, we got Mazoo coming
up in two weeks. I have you down scheduled for four and a half hours of sleep. Take two of those hours
and think about excellence.
You still get two hours and a half of sleep.
How much do you fucking need?
Just like Tiger Woods' dad said to Tiger one time,
nothing else is important.
Fuck everything else.
You may be five,
but I think your ears are ready for these words.
That's how I feel about G5 football.
Yeah, one day you're going to back over your own mailbox in your SUV
and ruin your career.
Before you do that, I need you to know.
You need to earn it.
everything before that will matter yeah earn this perkins that's what i'm saying
this perkins is a perk
do you all know where dan hawkins is speaking of week zero which just was
yes yes actually you ready for your bones to crumble into dust does anybody here not know
where dan hawkins is right now haven't checked in on coach in a while so he is he is no longer
at uc davis he stepped down uh to pursue additional to spend some time with his family he was
saying back in November, and you will just never, sorry, November last year, and you will just
never guess what spending time with his family entails, because guess who is the current
head coach of Idaho State? Cody Hawkins. Cody Hawkins, born in 1988,
Cody Hawkins, whose Wikipedia picture is still him with like a baby chicken haircut, like the willy corn haircut while he was playing at Colorado.
Dan Hawkins is at Idaho State working for Cody, who is the head coach of a college football team now.
We are returning to the dust from which we rose.
Cody Hawkins, who very nearly beat Dan Mullen just a few days ago.
Hey, whoa, that's crazy.
A Dan Mullen team came out in week one with no semblance of defense.
I think they're going to be coming out
more than week one with low semblance
defense based on what I've seen. Hey, I haven't seen that yet.
I'm just talking about what I've seen.
I love that.
Like, what are you doing? I'm going to spend more time with my family.
Cheat code doing football stuff.
I'm really tired of the mines.
Guess I better spend some time with my son.
Who's in the mines?
That's also he managed to do this while like jumping from.
He didn't have to take a climate haircut in any of this.
Like he jumped from,
There are obviously people who would prefer the beach to the mountains,
but he has jumped from one, like, excellent climate situation to another without, like, a significant downreating quality of life.
I love, if you look at his entire coaching journey, it's just a series of places with no humidity.
It's really good.
It's like if the humidity gets above, like, an average of 50 percent, Dan Hawkins is like, nope, nope, I'll drown.
I'll turn to that senator from the X-Men.
I forgot he came to Boise from Willamette, yeah.
Yeah.
He's just consistently moving from one semi-arid place to another.
I respect a man who has his humidity dialed right the fuck in for his entire career.
This is when he only lasted a year in Montreal.
Yeah.
I do also love, by the way, that this is also, this is very much like a, hey, I've quit smoking,
but there's cigarettes in the driveway.
Like that's very much.
And I'm related to them.
I'm related to them.
That's like, hey, you know what?
Travis Kelsey is going to like quit football.
now that he's just going to be like full-time Mr. Swift and you're like well how are you going to spend time away from football and you're like playing video game football and talking on a podcast about football with my brother that's how I'm going to spend more time with family we're going to talk on my football podcast you're never quitting.
Welcome to the shutdown full cast.
You are listening to the only college football
podcast on these here internets i am spencer hall joined as always by holly anderson jason
jason kirk ryan nanny and michael surber do we have any other important week zero i thought
you were about to ask if there was anybody else on the show i was like holy god i'm bad out
of it his short-term memory is fucked i'm who yeah Travis kelsey is here as always and regis
Philbin.
I know that's not possible.
Floyd,
can you budge over there
on the bench just a little bit?
He's always here.
Always with us.
I did,
I was very pleased with week zero though.
Like,
week zero quality.
Excellent vibes for a soft open,
yeah.
Like,
yeah,
that's,
I love that approach to it,
that this is college football soccer.
That's a Michael Felder framing.
That is,
uh,
Felder calls it a soft open.
I love that.
Absolutely love that.
I don't love that.
Avery Johnson's dad got into a fight with his own son who was...
You don't love that?
No, no, because I saw that and I thought about, you know, like, ha ha, you were entirely
and did you got into a fight?
That's pretty dope.
Who'd you get into a fight with?
My son.
Oh, oh, that's not.
Not the quarterback son, another son.
Yeah, another son.
So it was a fair fight.
It's, I would like that family to be happy, and I don't think you're a happy family
if you're traveling overseas and getting into a fist fight with your.
father i don't think that's or that doesn't sound like fun that um i'm into i'm a bad person
territory here because that sounds like half fun like it'd probably be fun in the moment you're like
yeah i've come to a fight with my dad in a football game in ireland listen they saved it for the end
of the trip though not to start that's a thing all business business trip first we eat
then dessert yeah like i hope they're okay and everything but like yeah yeah yeah
but it does sound how's this it sounds like 49% fun it wouldn't be without its fun moments lots of
bad things are fun in real time i think that what makes it unfun is that because of who your son is
the quarter the non-fighting son that is you had to issue an apology like if if you if most people
if they go on vacation and they get in a intra-family scrap they don't have to like make a public
Especially at a sporting event in Ireland.
Yeah, exactly.
Most people are like, what the hell else was I going to do at the sporting event where they run out of beer in Ireland?
Can I just survey here?
How many of you have had members of your family go overseas and get into documented massive brawls with each other?
None.
Look, it's important to set manageable goals.
We got server and space.
Okay, I want you to know.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Oh, nope, story time.
Yeah, I had
Is Orlando count?
Yes.
It is the Europe of Ohio, so yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, so I had a couple of family members who went to Paris and they
Jimmy Buffett song.
Hey, went to Paris looking for trouble.
They're looking for a fight.
Sounds like they heard some questions that bothered them.
So, yeah, they wanted to hear the people sing.
And the song, Nuck if you buck.
That's what they did.
But with like nuke if you book.
Yeah.
It's got cues on it.
You knock if you buck.
Kid music.
Yeah.
And pouring it up.
So, yeah, they went overseas.
They went to Paris and the trip was tense.
And eventually those tensions exploded into a brawl in a Parisian hotel.
which I will tell you, not a big space.
Not a big space for like...
That's a phone booth fight.
Yeah, it's very...
It's got big old boy hallway scene vibes, right?
Except imagine a bunch of Tennesseans who are like,
I'll fucking kill you!
Give me that bag!
This is not sarcasm.
I appreciate that you are Tennessean in your mind when things like this happen.
And not when it comes to like picking a sports team to root for it.
See, I think he's saying they're Tennessean.
I don't think he's claiming it.
No, no, no, no.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
Because if I...
I think this is like when you tell your partner,
you wouldn't believe what your kid did at school today.
It's very much that, yeah.
But yes, so they did get into a fight overseas.
Which is also fair.
The French police got involved with this fight.
It was that intense.
Yeah.
So they had to talk...
I thought we outlawed gendarmes.
I don't want no jane in my darms.
uh yeah that is that is a thing that you don't want really good french jokes yeah you don't
i hope people appreciate them you don't want to have to explain how uh you took liberty with your
fists no no i want to hear service story now you own it sir i want to hear service story no
and that ended up talking to a fraternity of mean french cops nope nope
I mean, so my grandfather is an immigrant from Yugoslavia.
He's Slovenian.
Why did he leave Yugoslavia because of impending fascism on the horizon?
His entire family immigrated to the United States.
He became a Green Beret and was stationed in Bad Tolst, Germany.
He's one of the original Green Berets.
And he was famous, famously in his unit, he was the smallest guy, but the one that would find the largest marine.
or like army guy at every
German bar they would go to
and just wail on them.
And he would do this everywhere.
And the,
even the story of when he met my grandmother was that he walked into the bar
where she was bartending.
She was from Munich and stood up on a table and said,
I willop any motherfuckers ass in this bar and you all motherfuckers.
And then sat down and drank all night.
night um he they would once he got to meet her family they worked at the uh
BMW factory and so um they would go down the side of the road and knock all the mirrors
off the Volkswagen's on the side of the road um he's just a notorious shit starter and shit
kicker in Bavaria in the 1950s I love that there's some big super nice offensive linemen
who was just spent it a couple of years in the core and he's like
I'm going to go get a drink.
And he's like sitting there like, oh, what a lovely day.
And then your boy comes up to him and is like, hey, fucker.
Yeah.
To be fair, I don't know how many Marines there were in Munich, but that definitely, definitely
would have happened when he was in Oakland and Colorado.
I'm sorry.
Oakland?
Yeah, there's like the Bayer, there was a, there was a base in the Bay Area where my family
lived at one point.
And he was a, he was a recruiter during Vietnam there.
We're talking Oakland in the 60s?
Yeah.
Your guy was just getting into bar fights in Oakland in the 60s.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, he grew up, he was, listen, he grew up on a dairy farm in upstate New York.
He was one of, so he's the toughest person I've ever known.
He fought, I remember him fighting my uncles.
He was like 25, 30 years older than them in the backyard and like winning.
And they were big, huge.
My other, like his youngest son was another green beret.
The other one was like a giant six foot four dude, Navy guy.
And they would just fight in the backyard.
would whoop their ass even though he was had had uh he at that time he had already had a double
bypassed only makes me stronger 50s or early focused my blood is he fighting multiple uncles at
once yeah both of them now i got a v6 and seven straight six fight me yeah to be clear they were on a
team together against him and he was fighting them so you're trying to tell me this man could have at any
point in his hypothetical brawl
quest through Oakland in the
60s, he could have lined up
against any of the following. The Black
Panthers, bikers,
and the Oakland Raiders.
He could have been out there
fighting with like John Batuzak.
Sure. Jesus
fucking Christ.
Built different.
Don't fuck with server. Walked up
to Lyle Elzado and said,
fuck you.
To be clear, I did not have his skills, just his
attitude. Now, don't fuck the server.
don't know what you might unlike i don't god damn who you just you're you just come from stock
that'll slapbox at a parisian hotel server shit's different oh you know local sigwar is the is one
of the dudes that uh he like he walked a high wire across like alpine like mountain ranges
he would like do with like walk across the high wire on that thing sure there was a famously
there was a poker chip like a really it was toughest shit and there was a big hole in it
And they were like, yeah, Sigwarp bit a hole in this one night.
They were just crazy people.
You know how mountains are too boring?
So you got to put a high wire in to jazz them up a little bit.
I mean, sometimes you're on one mountain.
You look at the other mountain.
They're like, I want to be over there.
But damn, I'd have to go all the way down.
I think servers people are out there looking at the dolomites and they're like,
you're a bitch.
Essentially.
Child's play.
Yeah.
You ever looked at the Iger and been like, bitch?
servers people did god damn i don't think you want to get to a fight overseas because listen to who
does it listen to listen to who does it unless you want to get into a macaron slap fight which i'm
pretty sure is exactly what happened with my family don't do it even if you just lost a football
game to iowa state who by the way delightful opener that's perfect they should play farmageddon
in dublin every year they should play a game of farmageddon's um quality and
comedy value in Ireland every year.
We certainly got that last year as well.
A good five fumbles in the first half.
Yeah.
Everyone's sort of in real time learning how to play football again.
Like about in the third quarter, Rocco Beck was like, oh, oh, yeah, okay.
I remember.
I remember this.
I got this shit.
Okay, okay.
It's like anything else.
The first few minutes are like, ah, what button do I push?
Right.
I hit right bumper instead of left bumper.
Shit.
Right.
I feel like Rocco Beck really.
learned the like square triangle circle thing uh i forgot they changed the buttons this year yeah they did
and i felt bad for kansas state because clearly clearly they were like me they were like no we're not
going to remember the controller for a game or two because that wasn't a blowout i don't think kansas
state should feel bad about that they just happen to have a conference game scheduled overseas for game
one they should feel really bad i mean they gave up a home game to play in a swamp on the other side of the
world and they
there were also a lot of stretches where
like they were out playing
Iowa State in that first half yeah I do
think they kind of blew I'm not
going to say they like should have definitely won that game
but
I do think they missed a big opportunity there
oh yeah yeah I mean it
it was a game that is clearly
designed for Iowa State
like if the ball's hitting the ground every eight
minutes like Matt Campbell's like they've walked right into my trap no matter who's dropping the
ball like if shit is falling apart it is great for any team from Iowa because they are built to
just continue as as you succumb to the surroundings they will merely continue built to function in an
ice storm they're very good at that ice storm football yeah you know it's a bit it's a
an entire football culture and schema designed around corn sweat that's really it like ball
slippery air thick it is also good i mean i think ireland is especially good because of you know
the travel factor the heat weather um so and so forth that it really makes sure the first game
sucks and i say sucks with all affection obviously but it is good to set the tone for college
football to remind people that like no man this shit sucks it falls apart it's bad all the
time nobody's great at anything for any sustained stretch it's really fucking hard
like the first game should have all sorts of bloopers because like you know if you started off
of something that's like oh my gosh this is so glorious and then you go to idaho state and then
the very next game you're not prepared for that you are not prepared to see unelv's defense you're
you're going to have some sort of an episode um seeing them flail about so like the the first game should
get you right into college football mindset and this was spectacular just as georgia tech
FSU was, which FSU lost.
FSU lose that game? Just checking.
They lost quite a few.
How'd they do the rest of the season?
Nine more losses for them.
Consistency.
Much to think about.
But yeah, I mean, like week zero is usually like, ah, ha ha, it's week zero.
Okay, hoo-hoo, yeah, we did that.
That was wacky.
But, like, oh, this was generally enjoyable the entire day, all the way through Hawaii
beating Stanford.
With a one-legged quarterback and with a kicker who,
had learned football by observing
it on Instagram
and then they beat Stanford
whose head coach is Frank Reich who
absolutely does not, who has said
for months to be fair that he does
not want to be there any longer
than he has to and
full commitment, full transparency.
He's just the dad who stepped up.
Step up, but not for law.
He stepped up as much as he legally had to.
Or now.
For the type of.
The dad who stepped in.
He's going to step out.
who hated the court summons.
Yeah, contractually obligated stepdad
is how he feels right now,
and not for very long.
They did have,
if you wanted a little,
if you wanted a little hit of...
But isn't that nice for him
that he doesn't have to like,
oh, we started three and oh,
maybe we should keep Frank,
he's like,
I'm not going to go through all that.
All right, there we go.
Looks like my December schedule
just cleared up.
Start the search.
Oh, I'm really committed to the recruiting class.
It's going to be interesting
to see where we bowl.
So I really can't wait to see where Frank Reich develops me.
Let me stop you, son.
Yeah.
What Frank Reich is developing is a hunger for trouble.
There's someone on the roster who doesn't know coaches leaving, you know, like, oh, I can't believe.
I came here to be developed by Frank Wright.
Frank Reich is developing a distaste for Palo Alto real estate prices.
Frank Reich is developing a deep interest in cheaper places to live.
And not being here, not being around.
Frank Reich is eating the tea.
team buffet every day to save money that's what he's doing also piling doritos in from the snack bar that's
right just him and just him and every other coach living like a hobo with their food on the radiator
it's gonna be like you know the story of you like oh the quarterback he shows up at 345 every morning
coach rolls in about 10 30 no coach also rolls it at 345 but it's to hoard the snacks
certainly he takes a nap until 1030 and then he does a show
shot of an over-the-counter
like cough medicine and it's like I'm out
they should just let Lee
Corso coach Stanford
he's free as of
Saturday morning
huh huh
he could have rotated
this is a really good idea
and he can pick the mascots
of Stanford's opponents
and it won't even feel like he's tanking
just what am I going to pick Stanford to win
meanwhile they're just interviewing Andrew like
gotta love coach
he's great
yeah i did the uh i did like the shots of andrew luck and the coaching staff in the booth and he is
it is you know they're they're pretty up front that he's like essentially on the coaching staff
as in addition to in charge of it um but like the shots of them celebrating their first rushing
touchdown by a running back in like a year and a half they're like so fired up and it's like
all right that is our one moment of stanford joy for the year i'm glad they had like a they'd like a 10
minute drive that was a great fucking drive 20 plays like that's yeah there you go you got what you
wanted Stanford.
That's it, man.
That's it.
You got a drive as ponderous as you love, like a classic Harbaugh-era throwback,
David Shaw throwback, massive run-dominated drive.
And then Hawaii's YouTube kicker, right, who learned how to play the game off of
YouTube, quite literally, kick the game-winning field call.
And you lost to like a 5-2 quarterback.
Hawaii has recruited
a guy who's listed at 510
which is bullshit
who is hopping throughout the game
because one of his legs
doesn't work at the moment
yeah like Michael Alahado
had a had a leg injury what
like sometime in the first quarter
yeah it was not near the end
yeah it was very it was
the like
the part that did not feel like
a typical Hawaii game was where he stayed in after that
because typically you're like oh man
Hawaii's got a great quarterback and he's injured and he just didn't nope stayed in gutted this
thing out Hawaii is like number one for a week unquestionably just by being that's fair just by
being their fascinating selves that's fair yeah also as as Roger Sherman and others pointed out
they're like the bit of week zero is you get to see a lot of Hawaii's opponents because like they
are spreading out their schedules because of you know having to go to Hawaii and like so many of their
upcoming opponents looked disappointing um like there there there was lots of like ooh
a lot like unov for instance um but like yeah hawaii hawaii bowling it's uh you're hearing it
more and more it's it's it's on the horizon and it's a far remote horizon because of geography
but they're firmly in tv movie care uh like tv movie or like inspirational movie like mode
where it's they're not even playing at their stadium they're playing it like a temper
stadium, right?
I mean, they were favored to win this game.
Stanford was very, very bad last year and now has a coach who wants to leave.
And lost a bunch of players in the transfer portal after they fired their coach in spring.
Stanford was picked to be like the worst team in power for depending on how Purdue does.
But still, depending on the point is, Hawaii gets to play a lot of bad teams.
That's right.
Love how that's always a mod, like a modifier you have to put it in there a little.
little contract clause where you go depending on what Purdue does you're like god this team is awful
maybe like work depending on what pretty mainly because like Purdue had like a more than a D on worth
of roster turnover but the team was the worst so it's like do they go up to four and eight do they go
down to oh and 12 I guess we'll see that's kind of can we can we go lower than oh and 12 not
currently like unless you play at Hawaii how did you lose 13 games?
games in a 12 game season.
The answer is Purdue.
You did it.
Yeah.
Only other thing I got from week zero is Kansas looked good.
There you go.
Kansas looked cool.
Jalen Daniels actually looked functional,
which he didn't look at all last year.
He looked super comfortable and cool and entertaining because he's just basically like,
the secret to him is that he's basically a triple option quarterback with some like very
long option reads like he has an option read it's 15 yards down the field and it's a wheel
route to a tight end but he still gets that he looks great he looked phenomenal kansas's
defense looked good um particularly the defensive line just yeah lance lanslipold
lanslipold's very good at this job that is all i think that's true that's our week zero recap
folks um yeah we have some other news that broke today
other than butch jones very i know we're used to important news breaking immediately after
we record on tuesdays or on wednesdays when the show drops but uh cadillac wouldn't do us like
that hell no baby that's right official f1 driver of the shutdown forecast
terry bodice valtery bought us whose real name i forgot while trying to google the video this
morning i was like terry wait a second
Hold on.
If I search Terry Bodas, will it just immediately pop up Valtrey Baltas?
Let me see.
Our Reddit is the first.
Yeah, you could figure this out.
It's like your Reddit.
I'm getting your Reddit Channel 6 and we're on the IMDB trivia page?
Hell yes.
I'm sorry.
We have somehow made it onto the IMD trivia page via slash film affectionately.
known as Terry Bodas by American fans.
Hell yes.
What is this from?
This is from March 2025.
Thank you slash film.
We made it.
We made it.
It's right.
We all made it.
That's right.
Cadillac,
Cadillac, who's going to be going into F1 next year has gone ahead and announced
that they're going to be using Sergio Perez and Valdas as their drivers.
Again, what is the most American racing team available?
That's right.
a team where a documentary made by a Canadian
Keanu Reeves is going to detail the ascension
of a Mexican driver and a finished driver
to the top of the F1 world.
USA! USA!
Can I tell you I let that video go by like five times
on the timeline before I actually clicked it
because I saw the announcement first.
I'm like, oh yeah, it's Terry.
I don't need to watch the little slick video.
And then I think it was Doug.
I think it was our producer actually.
He was like, no, you need to see the ending.
I'm like, well, okay.
And I clicked and I apparently we discovered I have placed blindness a couple weeks ago.
I guess I also have celebrity voice blindness because I'm like, that guy sounds familiar.
Who is that?
That doesn't sound like either one of the drivers.
And then I get to the end.
It's our cat.
Should we spoil it for people?
I haven't seen it.
I don't feel like we should.
It's a nice surprise.
No, no, you can go watch.
It's a nice surprise if you don't recognize this incredibly recognizable voice, which for some reason I did not.
Yeah.
So I still know almost nothing about F1.
that has never stopped anybody on this show.
That has never stopped a lot of people.
That's true.
Can you, Spencer, can, like, I'm thinking of this as like, okay, an NFL expansion team has, like, I'm thinking of Cadillac as an expansion team.
Mm-hmm.
Who, how would you compare signing these two drivers, like what football players or football coaches would, would this signify that they have brought in?
Huh.
Okay.
Okay.
So I'm going to try to do my best.
So you want, for Valtrey, you want somebody who was a legendary backup or successor to a legend.
So this is very much a steep, like for a retro Steve Young kind of choice.
There's also a little bit of Gino Smith in there where you have like, okay, I was at a lot of places and I had some rough and tumble times and, you know, and yet I did.
Well, he's also got some eccentricity.
So he's very much in that Gardner Minchew.
I will show my ass on camera kind of mode.
And I mean that quite literally,
Valtreibattis staged a fundraiser for charity selling pictures of his ass.
Okay.
Floating in a Colorado spring.
So I think that's-
How many poster-sized copies of that photo do you own?
I own two of them.
Okay.
I own two Valtreya Bada's butt picks.
And you can't have either of them.
They're precious to me.
Coincidentally, you have two children.
I do.
So look.
Inherit and secured.
Done and done.
So yeah, I think that would be it.
And for Perez, I would need, again, they're very similar.
It's weird.
They made an entire team out of that guy got wronged, right?
So they made an entire team out of the number, the beloved number two guys who are probably
among the best in the world, but just happened to be racing against someone even better
on their own team, Perez with Verstappen and Bottas with Lewis Hamilton at Mercedes.
So I think, I think with Perez, the answer is pretty.
pretty similar. We need like a lifetime backup who really like was in a bad situation when
they, uh, for most of their career. But who was still, who is still obviously beyond
competent, like very good. Okay. Okay. So Chad Hedy. Yes. Kind of. Not entirely
in apt. All right. Yeah. So we have an NFL expansion team with Gino Smith and Chad
Hennie as the quarterbacks. Yeah. Like these are both guys who could come in for a game in the
playoffs, make legends of themselves, play themselves into big free agent contracts, and
then be, ah, like, what are you going to do? You're like, I'm going to rain in hell,
aka Cleveland for a lucrative free agent deal for five years. That's very much what it is.
And these are, I think expansion team is the proper thinking too, because these are teams that
are going to learn how to do things in real time. You can only poach so much talent from other
teams. You can only be as, you can only be so good. Now, the question is, are they going to be
better than like some of the other stank teams on the grid.
And the answer is possibly, possibly.
Like, I know people don't think of Cadillac as being really, you know, like racing.
But if you're a gearhead, you know that Cadillac's been super goddamn serious about racing for a while.
So particularly, and it made the best sounding car I've ever heard.
They made a hybrid car that sounds like a dragon when it starts up.
It's the coolest shit ever.
And I got to hear it at LaMont.
Um, anyway, they, they added, like, is this, um, artificial bonus noise, like, to make it cooler, or is it, is it legitimately that loud? Uh, it is it that loud because they made it naturally aspirated. So it's not a Harley then. No. No. Very serious team. Very serious picks. And obviously, like, it is kind of the thing where you go, well, what are you getting? We're getting experience. What kind of experience? Um, with some drivers who might be okay with, you know, or understand the change. And, you know,
challenge of driving a car where they go, ah, the steering wheel fell off. Fellas, make it work.
It's supposed to do that.
This week it is. That's the only answer, you know? That's very like, oh, something happened.
It has to be good. It has to be good. After the race, we'll complain about it. So they got two
extremely seasoned charismatic. And might I say for PR purposes, beloved drivers, people that
that really like this. If you want to see the coolest thing in F1 racing in terms of fans absolutely
marking out for somebody, go to the Mexico race, and watch a mark out for Checo.
They will absolutely go nuts for Sergio Perez.
It's awesome.
So, yeah.
Thank you.
It was helpful.
Appreciate it.
Appreciate it.
Ryan, I am loathe to hand the saw puppet.
Why do you have to start off so negatively?
I told you.
Why do you have to start off so inevitably?
He said wrenching a bear trap open.
I said this is not a game we're doing.
This is, I want to be very clear there is not a game.
I just, I, yeah, it's a, you got to, this many sequels in, you got to change it up a little bit.
Watching week zero, it occurred to me that I think there is a way to judge someone's moral character or maybe put them in like a D&D alignment based on the following.
I'm going to, I'm going to give you all a scenario, and I want us to workshop this.
That's, that's what this is, because there are no right or wrong answers.
I want to pool our collective brains and thoughts and see what we come up with.
So here's the scenario. You are watching a college football game and the ball is snapped to
the quarterback who's in shotgun. The defense sends five rushers and they get enough pressure to
make him climb the pocket. He throws a pick. The ball is not tipped the line. The quarterback's
arm is not hit during his throwing motion and there is a receiver in the area. There are no flags
and there's not any action that makes you think, oh, they should have flagged that.
so my question to you is what is your knee-jerk reaction when you see a quarterback not necessarily your quarterback
and not necessarily the other team's quarterback just you are a neutral in this what is your knee-jerk reaction to
that i believe that there are nine i tried to come up with nine for d and d-alignment purposes
i'm going to go through them and i want you to help me either rank them by moral righteousness
or the traditional d-n-d alignment is that cool i like this okay okay
I'm just going to go through them all and then you can first you can tell me if I've got the right nine reactions number one
defensive back had that red the whole time number two quarterback just needs to eat the sack there
number three quarterback needs to tuck it and run there number four receiver and quarterback weren't on the same page
or receiver ran the wrong route number five that's on the offensive line number six
That's why you send the blitz.
Number seven, ball needs to come out much quicker.
These are great.
These are great.
Number eight, should have called a running play instead of a pass.
Oh, yeah.
Yikes.
And number nine, the receiver's got to fight harder for that ball.
He's got to become a DB in that situation.
I think these are the without knowing ball, without knowing anything that happened.
This is just these are the nine places your brain can go.
Like if you see a tipped ball, your reaction is going to be different.
or if you see...
But this is your emotional cognitive default position.
Yes, and I also eliminated the quarter...
I said that the quarterback's in the pocket
because I think of the quarterbacks outside of the pocket,
almost everybody's reaction is just throw the ball out of bounds.
But I'm eliminating that as a possibility here.
Okay, okay, okay.
Ryan, as I am imagining these responses as being,
you are coming back from the snack room at the Super Bowl party
and you hear four dads all yell at something.
And you know these guys don't know ball like they think they know ball,
but these are the things they are yelling.
Yes, yes.
The immediate human responses to an interception happened.
What is your instinctual pet theory on why every interception happened?
On why this bad thing happened.
Yes, that's exactly right.
So, like, there is a gradient between blaming the quarterback versus praising the defense, right?
Yes.
And, like, you know, to be clear,
often things are the fault of the quarterback,
but like if you are the kind of person who looks toward like great play by the defense,
you're looking for the positives or you used to play defense, right?
If you're just, if you're like, QB sucks,
then you are in the default position of blaming guy with ball,
blame, blame guy on camera, right?
You like to blame things on the most obvious person in the spotlight,
so it might have been his fault.
So I think the chaotic good answer here,
is quarterback needs to tuck it and run
because you are embracing the chaos of the blitz
but you are looking for a positive
like you're just looking for more cool shit to happen
fuck it we ball yeah like that's that's what I think
I also think if we're just ranking these in terms of morality
I think quarterback needs to tuck it and run
is the most morally righteous response
players is competent player is competent
and defense is competent right it is accepting
what fate has hurled at you
charging forward into it.
It also brings in the crowd
that's like passing
passing is a modern perversion
and we should only be running the ball.
If the quarterback tucks it and runs,
we're getting back to what football was
meant to be in New York Guards, but we are still
making it within the context.
It is the most honest response.
Yes. Yes.
Yeah.
I like this.
That's interesting because it's the most honest response,
but also it would seem to map directly
onto the personality type of people who say things like, oh, I don't know. Is this what we want
college football to be? That you think they should tuck in and running?
No, I'm saying like attitudinally. Okay. See, I think I think that is actually, they should have
called a run play there instead. I think that's that answer. This is kind of drilling all the way down to
do you think your quarterback has free will and if you were given a choice in the matter,
would you give your quarterback free will? Right. Right. Okay. Okay. Okay. I would.
It's why we're even trying to do something cool through the passing game in the first place.
There's the, I think that's the one I hate the most.
Spencer and I both laughed as soon as you said because I can picture the guy who says that.
That is the guy who thing went wrong, should have done other thing.
I think that's the lawful evil response.
That guy would say, should have thrown it.
Should have thrown it.
Oh, Marshawn Lynch got stuffed at the goal line all year.
Well, they should have ran him anyway.
I think that's either the most morally reprehensible response or lawful evil probably.
Yeah.
Yeah, and before that guy even gets to that response, by the way,
I think this is also very strongly correlated with a guy who sees quarterback's arm cockback
and goes, oh, that's a pass play?
Yeah.
This is also, we all know a couple of them.
This is total tangent, but a lot of these are giving the air of guy who commentates very
thoroughly on first drive-of-game and then rest of game plays on phone, right?
Guy who if three plays work,
guy says this is a great script yeah uh-huh that's right after first drive regardless let's
see what happens once they're off script all right now that they are off quote finger script you are
no longer playing right well you're describing also not only more than a few guys but i think more
than a few coaches yeah right i think this is correct and i think this is also the second most
coach-pilled response i will tell you the first most one yeah that is none of these nine
i want to save it but there is one that is even more coach-pilled but go ahead what no i want to hear
it you want to hear it now okay it's this all right defense next
up that's it like that's every time i see a pick i'm like every time i see a pick i'm so coach-pilled
and i've read so much coach motivational bullshit that i'm immediately like okay good next up all right
this the game we're playing okay okay yeah um i think that's how they want to play it
no it's how they want to play it all right that's that's that's kind of fight we're in i think
the second the second worst response from a moral perspective is that's on the offensive line
i think if you just need your blame it doesn't mean you're blaming five people you're
It doesn't mean you're wrong, but I think if that's your go-to, I think it reflects a, like, disrespect of the guys in the trenches that I think is fantastic.
It's a classism.
You're saying the guy who gets paid the most, it couldn't have been his fault.
Surely it was the guys who are lifting all the manual labor.
These guys, the names I don't know, they must have fucked up.
Oh, sure.
It's these five assholes from Mississippi, not this glorious tall prince.
Texas or California, yeah.
It's right, yes.
It's not the guy with the pretty haircut.
It's the five ugly guys.
It's not the guy whose dad's a state senator.
I think it's coastal elitism in fan form.
So I think that is probably neutral evil.
I'm not sure where that was.
But I find it disgusting.
I think the probably...
Blaming receivers is...
Okay, well, what's worse?
First of all, there's two different ones.
First of all, if your knee jerk is blaming receivers,
my mind goes immediately to...
But, like, racism is going to be a thing I'm going to be aware of if you're always, like,
those divas out there, letting down the quarterback who happens to be white.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't like the knee-jerk blaming of the receivers.
Out there with their dancing and their flashy celebrations.
Now, does this apply?
Because the one that I immediately glommed on to was the last one that Ryan mentioned.
Receivers got to fight harder for that ball.
Because, like, it's not exactly, it's not exactly blaming the receipt.
I didn't view that one as so much of a blaming the receivors.
receivers as a I am inviting more chaos into this end of the play that's a that's a more
positive way to look at it for sure yeah I think that one is um it sounds like I would have caught
it I would have tried hard enough to get right I think this is if there's a fire act I would
simply back flip out of it fight a bear and fight the DB for the ball this is the Mark
Wahlberg approach like maybe I was thinking maybe built different but also I was thinking like you're
not see when I when I say something
to that effect. I'm not myself saying, oh, the receiver should have tussled Harvard. I'm saying
the receiver should have turned around and punched the DB in the face mask with their fist.
Should have literally fought. Yeah. Yeah. I think I think that is. Which is not good advice,
but it is heartfelt. I do think that is less honorable than receiver and quarterback weren't on the
same page because that has the possibility of I'm actually blaming the quarterback or I'm not
questioning anybody's intentions here. That might be the most neutral one. Yeah, I think that's
That is the equivalent of saying, something went wrong.
Yeah.
And it's like, no shit.
You don't really have to go out on a limb at that point.
It's like smart guy way to say like that wasn't what they wanted to do.
Boy, talk about it.
That's not how you draw that up.
I do think the second most honorable response is that's why you send the Blitz.
I think if you watch this happen and you're like, that's why you send that as to Russia.
Great play.
Yeah.
I think like that's 100%.
That's a great response.
That is also pretty.
quarterback brained because what if there was no blitz right if there was no blitz i think and then that
response becomes look what you could do we're only sending four that's a hell of imagine it's a great job
great job that's why you hold back eight eight eight in past coverage in zone like but if your default is
like oh the pass rush was insane and you watch the replay like there was no patch rush yeah yeah um i think
just below that is defensive back had that read the whole way it is very disrespectful for the
quarterback but it's a situation where defensive backs don't get to do that so often during the
game and so if you want to give them their shine in that situation i think that's very
respectable my question with that one is are you at the stadium or are you on tv because if you're
on tv you didn't you have no fucking clue what the db did you're guessing no i think you're on that's
that's why i think it's better if you're watching it on tv and you're just deciding oh yeah i assume
that i i have divined from the universe that the db had that read the db who i did not see until the
last frame of the play had that red hole in the astro realm he knew that ball was coming it was revealed
to me in a dream that the db had that red the whole way hey listen some coaches talk about how we're
going to be more physical we need to be talking about how we're going to be more metaphysical yeah
from this from this camera view on the sideline that only showed the quarterback the whole play
I knew he had it picked off I think the I think the middle three the three answers that are
the most like other other than not on the same page I think our quarterback needs to eat the sack
there. That's a cowards response.
It is. It's a coward's response.
It is a risk management response, but it is a
coward's response. It's a Shador Sanders response.
Oh, I'm going to feast on this sack.
I think
that's number one. I think
ball needs to come out much quicker
is number two. I think that's just
the easiest shit to say. Doesn't mean
anything whatsoever.
Maybe it shouldn't, maybe it shouldn't
have. Right. Yes.
Yes. Maybe it shouldn't have come.
And I think that's the problem is that their flips
sides of the same indecisive coin
of like, oh, if only life
had been different. They don't really
tell you anything. Be cool if I'd won the lottery.
Well, it's like...
This is the frog had wings
quadrant. Yeah. Yeah.
If it comes out a second earlier or a second later,
it could still be picked off.
Sure. Yeah.
Were you at there
fucking diagramming it and you've calculated
that this is the amount of time
that would leave to an interest? Yeah.
So this is roughly, I haven't,
obviously, I haven't sat down and like mapped all
this out, but I do think, and hearing you all talk about it, I feel more strongly about this
conviction, I do think your knee-jerk reaction does say something about you as a person.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, there is the think they know a lot of ball response, which is to diagnose with your
pet diagnosis. Can't read a defense. Like, you know, that's, my God, the number of relatives I'm
thinking of. You got to change that protection pre-snap. You got to change that. It's whatever
it is that they go to every single time, that versus, like, someone who's going to take a step
back and, like, I don't know what happened.
They weren't on the same page.
Yeah, right.
You know, that is probably my stuff.
Especially in college football.
I think if you do this when you're watching the NFL, the NFL brain kind of trains you to sort
of, like, try to put yourself in that position.
But if you're doing this with college football, just stop it.
Yeah, come on.
That's a great point.
Like, if you're watching the NFL, it's like, okay, they probably were not on the same page.
Right, right, right.
But if you're watching college, like, one of these dudes,
showed up eight minutes ago, has never met his teammates.
He was playing at Snow College in Utah last year.
One of these dudes was ineligible until a day before kickoff.
Yeah, they probably were, they've never met each other.
It's fine.
Yeah, he's a 26-year-old man who's a ninth-year COVID senior.
He might actually be suffering from early frontal lobe dementia for reasons of age.
Okay, that's all I had.
I appreciate you.
Like I said, this was not a.
trap this was not a game nobody is winching open nobody has been
Ryan what's with the that of acid this perfectly normal panel van step inside
there's not a key lodged behind your eyeball don't look for welcome back my friends to
the show that never yeah thank you Ryan that was good also thank you for allowing me to
interrupt with my next play that's all right that's that is you are right that that's the most
coach pill dancer ball up top yeah it's the one
have now in all seriousness it's the one that like because it's just like burn the past it's also
i think it is also um watching football pilled like if you watch a lot of games you're you're very
in the moment oh my god an interception happened this is the end of the world watch the teams throw
interceptions all the time see i think that's another NFL college difference i think in the
NFL if you watch your team throw a pick you're like fuck this is precious cargo possessions mean a lot
It's like having an NFL, if your team's down by eight, you're doomed.
Yeah, you're like, oh, boy, it's a long way back.
A lot of game left.
College, you were like, there's six minutes left.
You fucking crazy.
There should be 35 more points.
And now, but yeah, like you see an interception.
With the two minute, not warning, it's basically an entire day left.
Odds are you see an interception, you'll have the ball back in four minutes.
It's fine.
Good.
You're fine.
One way or the other.
One way to the other.
Yeah.
What are they going to do?
Score a touchdown?
Go get one of your own.
It is my, you say that.
But it is my favorite thing because.
It's my favorite way of thinking about football ever since I saw a little, like, news bit, right?
A little segment on the Jaguars playoff comeback, I believe, versus the Bengals when Trevor Lawrence threw four picks after throwing like no picks.
He threw like one pick all year.
Remember, and he throws like four picks in this game.
And every time he came back to the sidelines after a pick, he's like, oh, God, I'm going to kill myself.
And like in the offense line.
That was against the Chargers for one.
The most snake big fucking team in the world.
Do you like how I instinctively was like, who sucks?
Bengals.
It was also like, it couldn't have been the Chargers.
Because our blameless chargers.
Like, this is the team that would do that instead of benefit from that.
Right.
Right.
But in that game, he kept coming back to the sidelines that Doug Peterson's whole thing that you're,
was to train people to go like, whatever happens is good, like in the game, right?
Afterwards, you get critical and stuff.
But whatever happens in the game is good.
And it's so insane.
It's the most insane thing.
Hey, we're here to play football, and if you're playing football, that means you're doing your job.
That's right.
That's right.
So he'd get back, and he threw, like, his third pick, and the offensive lineman would be, he goes, oh, God, that sucks.
I threw another pick.
And the linemen are like, good, good, all right.
I love it.
I love it.
Love it, great.
And, like, he threw his fourth, and they're like, awesome.
Yeah, good.
You threw your fourth.
There can't be a fifth in there, but if there is, that's awesome, too.
Like, they just stayed relentlessly positive.
All is determined.
All is unfolding as was planned.
It, dude, it is the, it is the most viking.
ass, turn
your neck to the wind, let fate slit
my throat if it wants, approach to football.
And I loved it.
I thought like, yeah.
Jacksonville Vikings, the Jacksonville
Norseman. Right. The ones who are like
struck by lightning, what a marriage
voyage we have, you know? I'm
kissed by the sky!
Right.
That's awesome. The mascot's on fire.
Look it, we ball.
Like, we're laughing, but I was watching
like, hell yeah, that's how you do it. That's awesome.
Sure.
Listen, Doug Peterson has a Super Bowl rig.
Can't take it away from him.
I don't.
Legally, you can't.
Yeah.
Come on.
Who's laughing now?
And then Trevor Lawrence went on to win a Super Bowl.
Sitting in like, you know, various high school football, a pro football, crowds or
whatever, people overreact way too much to like the ebb and flow of the game, right?
Like, oh, we're up by 21 and we fumbled.
Oh, my God.
I hate our team.
it's fine it's probably fine
like ultimately I think this
the reaction to the interception is
it's probably fine
they're probably going to fuck up
and then we'll have the ball
yeah
yeah the only one of these
the only one that sort of falls in this category
that I think it's fine if you overreact
I hate every time you pump from plus territory
I just fucking hate that shit like
it's always going to make me mad there are times
when it makes sense there are times where it's like
the smart thing do I only think
I only can enjoy it if you're winning by a lot, and it's sort of a like, we don't even need the ball anymore, stupid idiot.
We're bored.
That's the only time I can enjoy punting for plus.
I don't care if it's fourth and goal from the 45.
I don't care if you've looked up in time.
Finish your dinner.
I mean, there is a logic to it.
There is a logic to it.
Run a fucking screen for 12 yards.
That probably equals what the punt was going to do.
Yes.
Like, I don't, I, I, I don't want all of football to be a logic game.
I'm fine if a lot of it is, but punning from plus territory, I'm always going to be big, dumb asshole about.
Listen, we'll put that next to toxicly positive, okay?
I am clearly in toxicly positive football fan territory.
That's just where I'm going to be.
And it makes me very happy to be there, right?
I've gotten this way about Florida.
Like, Billy Napier calls the dumbest play on fourth and, like, seven, right?
because scared money don't make money and I'm like awesome awesome our D lines been killing it
let's do it yeah sure this is the way yeah playing right into my fucking hands
rules losing by 30 that's awesome could have been 20 we could have been losing by 35 you know
well we played to win though we played to win sometimes you play to win and the score looks worse
I don't listen I don't deal the cards I just play him brother yeah like I'm clearly in that
I like your big dumb asshole school right where you're just instantly at one point taken over by
somebody who's like don't you want to win you know this is the this is the big dumb asshole school
is the same school of I love the next guy like a quarterback might be in there and you might
have an Alex Smith and Alex Smith is the worst or Patrick Mahomes is the worst thing to happen to a
big dumb asshole fan yeah because you have an Alex Smith and most teams get Alex Smith's or they
get uh Jake Fromms right they get things like what do you do I'm in it shit what you know
how do we go 10 and two it's good competent I'm good nothing three touchdowns one pick great
day.
Three punch day.
Two,
listen,
one and one,
one, baby,
with 45 rushing
attempts?
One for them.
Yeah, one for me.
Like a studio director.
Fair is fair.
Yeah.
What do you do?
I hand off and everyone
fucking loves it.
That's great.
Patrick Mahomes is an awful thing
because everybody's convinced
that right around the corner
you're like,
yeah,
we're good,
but if I bench this guy?
Fucking Robocop Kermit's going to
get a real person.
Dude, you know who's on the
bench, John Wick, that's who's on the bench. I've got the silver surfer on the bench. All I need
to do is let it go. And I want to be clear that my complaint about punting in plus territory is not
just about like, it's not punting sucks. It's that you're not even allowing any fun punting
shit to happen. I don't get to see somebody boom it. That's a waste of time. I don't get to see
a punt return. Usually you don't even get to see like a good coffin corner when you punt it from
plus territory. It's just unsatisfying
in every way. Hey, honey, we've got a little
extra money in the bank account this month. What do you want to do?
Purchase supplemental insurance.
No! No!
Purchase cancer insurance.
Not much of it, though. Not even that much.
Like, $50. Yeah,
it's like, we found, I found $20
in my jacket. Put it in the savings
account. That's it.
This could save you 2%.
Buy a savings bond.
It will be born $26
in 20 years. Put it in a drawer.
you'll appreciate having that $26 one day and you're like I don't want to live that long by then it'll be eight do the dumb asshole thing it's also this if you if you are this is another complaint that is firmly a big dumb asshole territory and I will make it sometimes I'm not going to refuse myself this okay I think it's okay in certain situations to line up in the shotgun in short yarder situations sure I do I think it's perfectly
In fact, in certain run schemes, it even makes more sense, right?
Especially if I have a quarterback with some legs and it's kind of a long one or a long two.
If you are a team that doesn't practice under center that much, don't fucking decide to do it on fourth and one.
Don't be a hero.
Don't be like, you know what?
Maybe I am a lefty today.
Let's find out.
They're going to call us names if we don't line up under center.
If your quarterback lines up under center like a kid peeing at a urinal for the first time.
Oh, now he's thinking, he's totally nude.
Oh, my God.
He's never done that before.
You don't take your pants down.
Don't do it.
Why is your shirt off?
Don't do it.
That's what it looks like.
We know it's coming.
Do you know when you see a quarterback do that?
Do you know what the defensive tackles do?
They start salivated.
He's got sweat socks under his pants.
Yeah.
They're like, oh, this is a fumble.
Get ready to move.
About to eat.
Ball, they start shouting ball.
hasn't even been snapped yet yeah what an intimidating thing by the way if a defensive tackle is
looking at your center going ball and you haven't moved you're like this is wrecking my confidence
that would hurt me shh stop no it's not that's not true you can't say that play hasn't even
started i mean you think that you think that trash talk is more developed than this but
Go watch people who are miced up.
Christian Wilkins, big trash talk is, no, it's not.
He's like, oh, we'll come fuck you up.
But Christian Wilkins is like, no, you're not.
I'm not scared of you.
Oh, favorite Clemson player ever.
Willie corn erasure.
No, yes, yes.
A little bit of Taj Boy in a racer, too.
Yes, no, Christian Wilkins is the best.
Okay.
It's okay to have a favorite.
He was doing, listen, he was doing the splits at the national title, like,
celebration when they did the photo it's a strong it's a strong pick yeah it's a strong pick can't confirm
he's like he's who i want yeah he's funny as hell um and also just like a big malicious
big happy malicious like quarterback naming bear how could you not love him okay I'm I'm feeling
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Thank you.
Yes, for clarification.
Now, you may be wondering the flagship forecast.
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They're going to live out in front of that Patreon, okay?
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no wait it's not because you know who we didn't talk about
homefield apparel dropping 300 plus
new items this week alone what what is going on in indianapolis what what kind of incredible sweatshirt
mine have they opened up in the ground at home fields headquarters that they have this bounty to
just drop think about how much home field already exists in there like if you've been in their warehouse
it's a shitload of shirts and pants and crunex and hoodies it really is a shitload of
You're telling me there's more?
You told me there's new, there's new trucker hats and there's new tri-stripe pullover?
You're telling me there's just all kinds of new shit for all kinds of schools?
What are we talking about here?
Is, is Homefield about to prove that actually the world's supply of comfortable collegiate apparel is endless
and that there is no, the limit does not exist?
This is bonkers, and you know why we're doing it?
Because Homefield's turning seven.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Homefield's going to an elementary school?
That's, you start earlier than that.
Really?
Yeah, most, I would say most elementary schoolers are six.
I am from 10. Damn.
That's fine. Don't worry about it.
Homefield, you get there on your time.
Everyone has their freshman year of college at 21.
There's some things my parents never told me.
Hey, listen, Spencer, you don't have to do any math at Homefield.
You just go to Homefield apparel.com,
price of purchase.
That's it. It'll do all the math for you. They'll tell you how much money you owe them.
Oh, but what about taxes? Homefield to do that math for you. What?
Homefield, do that math for you. What if I want to buy multiple something? Homefield to do all that
math for you. Damn. Yeah. I'm going to go to home field to learn math. Can you read the numbers
on your credit card? That's all you got to do. You don't got to tell me anything about the numbers.
Just read them. Not right now. Don't do this on the air. Just to be very clear. Not me. Yeah. Not me.
And, yeah, don't make me be in the middleman for you.
Step up.
We are not home field's website.
No, you can not.
You cannot email us your credit card number and then shirt will magically appear.
And then ask us to make the purchase for you.
Don't try it.
It is legal to buy Homefield merch.
You do not need a dealer to provide you Homefield.
Like, we know we're kind of like your home field.
Like we're like, you know a guy at Homefield.
That's us.
Sure.
That's pretend.
This is not a real group.
is your home field guy right that's right like the world of high-priced stocks oh you have to make
this much money or be a registered broker to participate in that fuck that anyone can buy shirts and
sweatshirt home field is for the people home field is for the fucking people not like wall street
home field is the opposite of wall street where home field homefield give money get shirt
you'll need to know a damn thing about stocks that's right it's like fireworks anyone can buy
them anyone can sell them and they're all legal you can't wear stocks you can wear homefield
damn fuck i think that concludes podcast business it does all right podcast business has concluded that means
that we are at a thrilling point in the year a it's the first week one looking at the schedule
b we're an hour and a half in these things are in tension with each other yeah that's right yeah yeah i think
we're going to have to, I think you're going to have to do the, like, this is maybe a
situation where you need to say, like, here's the chef's menu. Because there's so much
week one. We're going to do glimpsing at the schedule. There are teams that do not
actually exist playing this week. There are, there are colleges that are only fielding teams
for one week. Well, these teams, these teams semi-exist year-round. The thing is in week one,
they're on TV. Yes. Yeah. And they will return for the stack bowl.
Yeah. For instance, the SEC Network, you ever wanted to see Central Arkansas play on TV? Congratulations. They're playing Missouri.
All right. Let's do it this way. And Jason and Spencer and Serber, I think you can team up. I'm going to ask you for each window. Let's just go through each window of each day. I want you to give me, what do you think is the most entertaining game you can watch or the best game you can watch? And what do you think is the haters special? The thing where you're just like, hey, you want to watch so many maybe go sideways? You want to watch somebody get on the highway the wrong way?
Watch this game.
So let's start with Friday.
Well, I want to, real quick, I'm going to give you Thursday.
I'm going to give you Thursday because Boise USF should be pretty good.
Granted, it's starting during rush hour on East Coast time.
430 in Tampa.
5.30 in Tampa is a rough kick time.
You're going to get to see Delaware, Delaware's FBS debut.
Delaware State will be there.
You know, Delaware State being a nationally televised game on streaming.
Scott Frost, Russ.
to undefeated, starts with Jacksonville State.
Additionally, my Hater Special is going to be at 830 on Thursday,
where this was in a split zone duo.
This is one of my FCS upset picks.
Alabama State versus Trent Dilfer.
Finish him off, Hornets.
Finish him off.
That is not.
I think Serber, you could, looking at the Thursday schedule,
do you know what I was going to pick is the haters special?
Is this the East Carolina NC State game?
It is very much East Carolina.
It's a lot of hate there.
That's a good haters special.
It's a huge haters game,
here's the thing everyone in states talking about interstate's going to get got east carolina's going
get that ass he's like cj bailey is so big and scary yeah he like might actually he might
actually be one of the like the best quarterback in the acc by the end of the season um because he
has that kind of potential uh i think it's he's going to handle business in that game okay like it
it does it does give off the vibes of like i don't know but yeah carter finley on a thursday
night everyone's talking shit about state in state right now they're i think they're going to i think
they're going to get that ass okay i will i will defer then to jason's pick of alabama state versus
trin delfer spencer what is the best thursday game you can watch i too i'm going to go ahead and
back up the uh the boise state at south florida being the best game really yeah yeah i would
also say that that is the best game i'm going to put a different rand you don't like the tamponess
no i i'm a little interested in nebraska at cincinnati i mean at cincinnati i'm targeting that as my
Hater special because Scott Satterfield is involved, and I guarantee you, everyone at Cincinnati
hates the situation, Satterfield for being there, the administration for Satterfield being there,
and the fans for watching it all happen.
Whatever is going to happen here is going to be one of my favorite week one conclusions,
which is everyone's confused and no one likes it.
That's what's going to happen here.
Win or lose.
Also on the table is Scott Satterfield's at the end of his rope and gets a win right then and there,
which hasn't happened before.
God, God, that was so bad for Nebraska.
Nebraska starting O and won.
Oh, my God.
Do you know how hard it would be to avoid talking about Nebraska, like, every episode?
And then Scott Satterfield's like, you know, I hear Scott Satterfield might be good for the Nebraska job.
You know, if there's one guy who can win when Nebraska's involved, hearing lots of rumors.
Okay, Friday.
Friday.
What's my most entertaining game?
Georgia Tech, Colorado.
Like, don't play around here.
Don't get cute with it.
Don't, ooh, Dian, back.
No, this is what everyone's going to be watching.
Clock in, it's fine.
Georgia Tech, very entertaining team, Colorado, who the fuck knows.
They'll be worse without Travis Hunter.
They might be better without Shador, but, like, yeah, this is definitely a thing to observe.
Auburn Baylor, you have, like, charismatic Baptists against, like, more fundamentalist
Baptists, so, like, this is a real house-svited situation.
Additionally, Kennesaw Stay at Wake, Cerber, if we cover, then, like, I don't know,
feel like I, and we'll make a mayor's bet on this at some point.
I think you get my house
I wasn't going to go that hard
But perhaps
Like you won't move in
The line is pay you every month
The line is like 20 points
So we'll see if we can pull it off
Haters special
I don't throw out one unexpected one
App State at Charlotte
That's mine
Yeah
There's a lot of North Carolina hatred
Well in this case I think it's mostly because
Like this the line on this game
Is closer than you would think it would be
App State is only favored by
less than a touchdown and i'm like oh man like it's not as if oh charlotte is this
sleeping giant all of a sudden like they're starting over if this is one that i think has
big potential to be like oh i do not feel good about app state this year if potentially in this
game i'm gonna pick go ahead no i just i just think this is charlotte's time to do something
like app state is the established program program within the state of north carolina and
Charlotte is a younger program, but their program's really taking some big steps and big leaps
and just anytime they can beat Appalachian State is actually a big giant massive deal
on the recruiting trail for them with like high school recruiting, of which I know that's
not the biggest deal anymore, but for these schools, they kind of do, they kind of do need
to get the three star, two star in North Carolina guy over Appalachian State. This game will maybe
set the tone on the trail in state for the.
year because it's also kind of like it's charlotte's time baby charlotte took ohio's coach like
there's a lot of that baked in this point spread where it's like there might be but you know
there's just general confusion there um okay give me the saturday early let's just let's just do the
i'm sorry i want a hater special on friday i need to place a special order
live on fox at 8 p.m. eastern alburn at baylor enough said baby yeah yeah something's gonna go
Yeah, okay.
Take a prayer a lap, son.
Texas Ohio State is obviously the like, this is the game you want to like in the noon slot.
That is not, you know, it's Lee Corso's last game day.
It's number one versus number three.
I would like to say very briefly, fuck the AP voters for not making this a one versus two.
I'm not saying Penn State doesn't deserve to be the number two team.
I'm fine with that.
But you had the opportunity to make this a game in the century and you fucking didn't.
This is the ultimate counter argument against people who say the AP just rigs the numbers.
to make the games look big.
Nope.
There.
Like, that was a silly argument all along.
That is officially not a thing
you need to hear anyone say to you anymore.
Yeah.
Is there a good haters game
in the noon slot?
The new...
I'll produce playing, so...
Okay.
Mississippi State's Southern Miss actually...
Yeah, another line that is not very big.
Yeah, well, Southern Miss, again,
like, basically, like, brought a whole new team in.
Mississippi State is still figuring out
what the fuck they are doing at this point.
Yeah, Southern Miss is basically Marshall.
If you liked Marshall,
you're going to love this, too.
It's hot marshal, humid marshal.
And this game is in Hattiesburg.
It's not in Starkville.
Yeah.
So that has been.
This is very in line with your previous,
your two North Carolina picks.
There's a lot of local discord that most of America will not think about.
In week one, I feel like you have to sort of pull for that
because otherwise, like, I don't know,
does this FCS team really hate this?
Toledo Kentucky is an opportunity.
Toledo Kentucky is an opportunity.
Toledo should be good by Mac standards.
Yes.
Kentucky, you know, I feel like we've,
done this about a thousand times where it's like, oh, ho, ho, it might be the end of Mark Stubes,
and then that's when they go nine and three. But there's potential to check in on it.
In the 330 slot, the haters game is so off. It's Alabama, Florida State. There's no question.
I'm not going to say it's the best game. It is the most watchable game. It is the one that
most people will be watching. Like on your timeline, this will be the main game. It is also, as
noted, yes, the haters game. Either way, if FSU is like, oh shit, FSU has a lead, which,
I mean, FSU brought in a lot of talent.
They're probably not bad again.
But yes, this is your hater special.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it probably does for this time slot probably occupies both.
Yes.
Does that seem fair?
I can't think of a better one for either category.
Yeah.
Spencer, if we're moving to the 7 o'clock hour, what's the best game I can watch here?
This is a layup I'm offering you.
Brief note, I'm going to skip that for a 6 p.m. game.
That is Clash of Culture's Coastal Carolina at Virginia.
Oh, man!
I just want to see two diametrically opposed fan bases.
If you want to see two fan bases who have nothing to do with each other,
fighting over a common goal that they have never had to this point.
What if upstairs and downstairs from Douten Abbey played a football game?
This shit is like sweaters versus sweat.
Coastal Carolina alumni base, a little more figure eight island than you would give them credit for.
Like, there's a little bit of wine and cheese to their people that aren't living in Conway right now.
Yeah, sure, sure.
Who might be at this Virginia game.
Yeah.
I would just keep an eye on that.
It looks interesting.
I have no other larger hater selection for the evening then to plate you up.
LSU at Clemson.
That's right.
LSU at Clemson.
And that's just for Brian Kelly.
The, like, early portion of the late schedule absolutely cleared out for Clemson, LSU.
There is UTSA, Texas A&M.
That might be a little interesting.
Surely not picking UTSA to win, but, like, that's a thing to observe.
Business doesn't pick up until late when you got Georgia Southern Fresno, Idaho, Wazoo, Cal, Oregon State, Hawaii, Arizona, and Utah, UCLA at once.
That's pretty good.
Yeah, it is, it is a real good backlog.
Like, there's so much there that at least, I feel like, I feel like,
at least one of those games is going to pop, yeah?
Yeah, honestly, like, Colorado State, Washington,
that'd have to go a little bit crazier, but throw that in, too.
Okay, so here's...
Fuck it. Northern Arizona. Get in here.
Sunday is where it gets hard.
We only have two games, so one of them's got to be the top-notch game
and one of them's got to be a haters game.
But I'm not really sure which one is which, right?
Like VT, South Carolina,
so Lenore Sellers, and Virginia Tech should be pretty good.
That's a good game.
Yeah.
Notre Dame Miami is as a hater.
it gets yes right but also should be pretty good but also should be really good yeah so so yeah
that's i'm giving them both to both yeah and i don't think it's gonna be i don't think it's gonna be
i don't think it's gonna be a bad game no no man carson beck and then butthole lies
okay thank you for reintroducing the phrase butthole eyes yeah it's back um and
by the way i don't think that's i don't think that's true at all i think Notre Dame's i think
that's going to be i i think Miami is used as quarterbacks to paper over a lot of the things
that have been wrong with their defense i think that's the server saying right that's what i'm saying
Is that what you're saying?
Okay, okay, so we're on the same page.
No, no, no, no.
As noted, as noted.
His eyes look like buttholes, and I don't trust him.
I'm picking Notre Dame to win the title.
You two are picking Notre Dame to crush Miami.
This has always been an Irish podcast.
Yeah.
And then the Monday game, yeah.
Oh, God.
It's Bill Belichick, everyone.
Here it is.
This is one of the hater games.
It's going to be hard to find a more hater-friendly game on the scale.
The thing that is going to go unmentioned here, or at least undermentioned, is that, like, I know TCU made the national championship not that long ago.
But if they come out and they lose a road game to UNC and they got to listen to Bill Belichick, this, that, and the other, after losing that first game to Dion, like, TCU fans are going to be so fucking sick of this shit.
All we do is we lose to the gimmick, the gimmick team.
Yeah, they're going to, we're the, we're not, we're not in wrestling terms.
we're not jobbers.
No, we're losing your Instagram influencers.
We're like Shamis.
Yes.
Like, we're the, oh, it's a credible opponent who loses, right?
Yeah, it's not, it won't be good.
If UNC loses, I don't think it matters at all, quite frankly.
Like, I think UNC's season is going to be really hinge on like four conference games
as to whether people are in or out on Pillichick after year one.
But if TCU drops this one, it's like, I don't, especially because like, TCU
you want to play in the big 12 championship game unc at least from what we know about them now
would not be a big 12 champion aspirant if they were in that league so if you can't beat them on the
road it does not say great things about having to play SMU and arizona state in your first four
games i think we should just overreact as hard as possible oh 100 percent and i i i mean like
literally us the full castes like let us out overreact the casuals who this is the only game
they'll watch all weekend out overreact boston talk radio wait hey why isn't the winner getting
first place votes in the eight people did you see it was the only game on month it's monday night
football doesn't that mean anything i guess dad came in and showed the kids some new tricks
huh the old guy still got it in him this college football yutzes don't know what's about to
hit that that that that that playground shit don't work
Cup here in the NFL.
This is the ACC.
I am going to be watching this game to see how many Patriots jerseys there are in the King's stadium crowd.
More than one.
Because there will be more than one.
More than one, brother.
Will we see Jordan with a headset and a clipboard at some point in this game?
Great question.
Inshallah.
And no explanation.
The announcers just let's just, let's just, uh, producers like, ah, let's show a mascot.
Let's show something else.
sink.
Side line.
Okay.
The booth is somehow funny.
That means she has taken a seat.
She's not just lingering.
It means this is her seat.
She's locked the fuck in.
She's barking into her headset.
Yeah, she's looking at that Microsoft surface.
Slamming down the surface after an interception.
You didn't identify the mic.