Shutdown Fullcast - Your College Football Semifinal Recap

Episode Date: January 4, 2021

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Starting point is 00:02:44 This is the only one that you got. So enjoy it. I am Spencer Hall, and I am here to say that... Go to hell, solid verbal. No, no. That's what he wants to say. No. Although, what is the most...
Starting point is 00:02:59 They were, like, amazed that Dan Rubenstein can drink, like, 48 ounces of liquid at once. Liquid or, like, alcohol? Water was the liquid in... I mean, now, liquid is an open discussion, isn't it? If I was like, you can drink 48 ounces of motor oil every morning, taking that bad boy down. That's a different thing. Wait, what? Dan can drink, like, gallons of water in one gulp?
Starting point is 00:03:23 Like a whale? Yeah. You can just take it down like a camel. just huh does he spit at you camels do that potentially yeah i know that i know that i can take down like i can drink a 40 in one go that's not hard so i'm not thinking 64 ounces is like a big stretch in terms of like one continuous chug okay we went from 48 to 40 to 64 yeah no i'm right in that range i think like another third on top of that capacity wise i can do that Go to hell, solid verbal.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I just want to reiterate. Welcome to the only volumetric capacity podcast on these here internets. Ryan, you're our resident Florida native. What the fuck, dude. Don't put that on him. A title that, no, we've said it multiple times, and it's accurate. Not making that up. You're the only Florida native here on this podcast, correct?
Starting point is 00:04:21 I guess that's true. Yeah. I don't even claim it, right? like I just have exposure but I don't I wasn't born with this virus you it's in your DNA at least my parents are from Florida oh wait they're not they moved there and then they had me this is where we didn't we talk about this just a little while ago this is why I think you fly low as a Floridian because your parents came there from California yeah and so you're able you have you have like the tall grass of outsider ancestry yeah do you think do you think they got there and they and before they were like that can't be too different than california i don't want to think about this too hard honestly like how every time is tampa how florida is tampa yeah i mean your parents named a kid todd so they fucked up somewhere once all right what did you want to ask me as the florida native
Starting point is 00:05:20 on this podcast he's just talking about sonic the hedgehog again he didn't actually have a question what's the most what's the most no we're not talking about nebraska natives we're talking about florida natives and i wanted to ask earthworm jim what is our producer asked before the show why our last show ran two hours of recording gosh who could say this is kind of how it went so ryan what city in florida consistently produces the most stress and drama like if you had to say what the most stressful city in the entire state of Florida was what would you say huh um i mean like i'm going to exclude tallahassee and the state capitalness of it because i feel like that's unfair because that would be my first answer i think it's probably jacksonville number two
Starting point is 00:06:15 jacksonville with if you take away the they're like hey ron dsantis works here part of tallahassee second in the state of Florida. So they've got that going for him. Yeah. So yeah, I'll say Jacksonville. I think you're correct because if Urban Meyer really wants to coach there. What? Which is a rumor.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Is this the first you're hearing about Holly? I can't. Holly is a good enough factor. Okay. All right. Yep. I, um, today is my first day off. Both of my jobs since like August.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Yeah. and i have spent most of it not on the internet and the times i have spent on the internet i have spent it yelling at georgia's secretary of state so who is not really yeah yet not yet not yet but i think if that is actually something that will come to fruition and urban meyer is very serious about this job. He has to consider the constant drama that is Duval County. That is Jacksonville. I mean, if Cat Williams says it's stressful and it's wild, I'm just going to accept that it's stressful and it's wild because Cat Williams got arrested for drama in the middle of a parking lot of a Walmart in DeKalb County once. So he knows drama and he knows
Starting point is 00:07:44 stress and he thinks Jacksonville stressful. It's got to be stressful. I just have one little piece of evidence though because i know urban mire in the past stress has taken a great toll on it this is happening right now in the city of jacksonville this is from garrett dennis a councilman in the city of jacksonville he was uh he was asked by uh someone on twitter saying hey wasn't it you who was making thousands of phone calls to another woman who wasn't your wife was it work related at least the mayor sticks by his wife and in response this councilman said I want to thank the mayor who retweeted this for referencing my wife which I thought was off limits
Starting point is 00:08:37 opens the door for me asking if yours knows about your trips to Clay County to be with hired women that's a that's a councilman at least those hired women get paid That's true. It's a business. I also just learned that Ron DeSantis was born in Jacksonville, so please continue. Lots to answer for, huh, Duvall? Responsible for Blake Bortles, Ron DeSantis, and now this, the entire Jacksonville Jaguar's franchise. Yeah. The amount of misery that, oh, and by the way, big coffee plant, the amount of nervous energy that, that the city of Jacksonville
Starting point is 00:09:20 has been responsible for over the years is incalculable. It's like if Ren and Stimpy was a metropolis. Wow, that is hauntingly accurate. Steampy. On a lot of levels. We're going to win the AFC title. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Call the police. It's Jags, it's big. It's heavy, it's wood. It's not better than bad, though. that's that's why it stops thank you appreciate it if they could be better they could um the mayor by the way when somebody when he posted a picture a couple days ago somebody he posted him and his wife just you know yucking it up on new year's somebody under the title of impeach lennie curry on twitter said god damn your wife is ugly too holy shit how much do you have
Starting point is 00:10:12 to pay her annually to stick by you to which lennie curry replied name the place show your face I'll be there. Mayor is just, mayor's just out here a while. He's, this is not the first time he has been too active on Twitter. This is maybe the furthest he's gone.
Starting point is 00:10:29 A little servant wife guy. Yeah. Is a tough intersection. Yeah, he needs to be far less online. Basically. He was born in Key West. So, he should be much more relaxed.
Starting point is 00:10:42 What the hell did you leave for, dude? Fair. Get back down there. I mean, that's a mistake. He went to high school, Middleburg. By the way, where is this guy who's far too online and brawling on Twitter? Wasting all this time? Where did he go to school?
Starting point is 00:11:00 University Florida, baby. I heard that echo in my own headphones. He's a gator. So I'm just saying, you're ready to step into this. If you're ready to step into this morass, if you're ready to just go ahead and come in the steam room, get in this pressure cooker called Duval County, Urban Meyer.
Starting point is 00:11:18 I don't know, man. You might not be ready. Look, I mean, look at the coaches who have proceeded, who he would have, like, followed, though. Like, how long was Jack Del Rio the coach of the Jaguars? Yeah, but does Jackdell really even know where he is most of the time? Dude, he was there. He was there from 2003 to 2011.
Starting point is 00:11:42 I bet he'd be surprised if you told him. told him that you said dude you live there for like nine years you're like what crazy that's nuts man and i mean i identify if you told me like hey you live there for this many years i'd be like ah couldn't be that many no way yeah you put an axe in the locker room and everything someone hurt their foot with it oh it's crazy i don't remember this being the case but on jack del rio's wikipedia page it says in january 2010 he was offered the head coaching job at USC, where he played. And the next day, he denied receiving an offer and later rebuffed the offer officially
Starting point is 00:12:23 and saying he would stay with the Jaguars. And in November 2011, he got fired. And who did they hire in 2010? Oh, wow. It's all coming full circle, isn't it? Uh-huh, uh-huh. They hired Lane Kiffin. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Elaine Kiffin. Outbackball champion. At backball, that's right. That's right. Defending the Fowler of the SEC, unlike some teams. I expect Florida to get up for a non-appetizer-based game. How? Do they not understand strip ball culture?
Starting point is 00:13:04 We can't get motivated for that. Nope. There wasn't a single pool. There wasn't a pool supply on the line. There was not a jamba juice on the line. there was no appetizer guaranteed no not even like not even like the promise of a fajita not a not a differently flavored vape than the one we normally pick up no oatmeal that's right mountain dew and bucarty mountain dew mountain dew mountain
Starting point is 00:13:30 wait is that an option it is now hmm peanut butter don't get me excited that's there's going to be some florida detective show the next five years a man enters the room and goes peanut butter vape ah moriarty at c i s orlando yeah florida mori did we kill jason i think we did i was uh trying to figure out if sonic is from nebraska where's tales from oh shit is tales wisconsin i mean i feel like tales is far more midwestern than sonic is tales is the humble like like uh heart on a sleeve good nature you know not a lot of attitude right right right i'm feeling like tails is from salt of the earth guy yeah but tales is a juggalo is tail's upper peninsula like even more
Starting point is 00:14:29 sincere wow that feels knuckles to me yeah i was gonna say could you see tails setting their And Knuckles is, like, deep into Maine. I can also see Knuckles living in the Ozarks. Yeah. Get out of here. I'll punch you. I thought you were fast. I thought you were fast, but yeah, I like punching, too.
Starting point is 00:14:53 It's called Knuckles because he runs the local coffee shop, and that's his signature dish. I got the right to bear arms with fists on them. Yeah. knuckles definitely has some extremely problematic politics so yeah ozarks put them in the ozarks so but going back to that full you keep working on that jason going back to that yeah we are full circle because uh lane kiffin he he had a flight to catch they had to leave him at the airport management changed at usc and and who did they hire to replace him that's right fellow co-offensive coordinator from their national title teams who steve sarkeesian Surely the first and only time that Sark has replaced Kiffin, right? No, no. The second time. He did it twice.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Replaced him at Alabama. When did Kiffin coach Texas? When Kiffin was like, yeah, I don't know, I'm going to get another job. And Nick was like, bye. When Kiffin just happened to receive an extension hours before Texas hired Sark. Mm-hmm. On the heels of a four and five season. I'm going to level with y'all.
Starting point is 00:16:10 As long as he didn't take Auburn, nothing else. Lane was going to do this off season was going to satisfy me. Can I interest you in the New York Jets? Never mind. Astronautics or counselor, thank you. I just want to see that first press conference. Hey, guys. How you do it?
Starting point is 00:16:27 Boo! Make the noise again. No. Everyone at Jets Press conferences, journalists included, boo like their like Shakespearean hecklers. Yeah, that's some Princess Bride shit. Yeah. Filth.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Rubbish. Rubbish. Throwed tomatoes at the stage. You had true love and Ole Miss, and you throw it away. For what? The Jets job! They won't love you like we love. That's true.
Starting point is 00:17:01 will not that is true yeah i although really like it's got to be so easy to get hired with the jets like the johnson family they've been rich for so long they have three brain cells and don't need anymore that's just how much money they have so if you're a head coach they're like well you know what i like what football they're like this guy gets it hire him dan mullen's totally dan mullen's totally getting this job because we're talking about this now the jets job okay just speak it out between between now and whenever this show comes out i I bet Dan Mullen gets this job. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:35 I'm pissed at how right you are. Because the knock on Dan Mullen everywhere else is like, he really doesn't interview that well. He's not that compelling. But like the Jets hired Adam Gase. This is like, at what point have they been like, yeah, you know what? Charisma and leadership. Those are the two things we look for.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Absolutely. Oh, God. Yeah, we need somebody, we need somebody innovative. We need somebody who understands college quarterbacks. Oh, God. Do you think Rex Ryan interviewed well? Are you kidding me? He was probably showing you half-nude pictures of his wife.
Starting point is 00:18:11 No, just the feet. Which half? That's the half that's nude. That's it, just the feet. She's half feet. Her half foot, her foot half? Yeah. Her foot half, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Please don't email us. Yeah. Yeah, she's built like a South Park character. She's just all feet, man. I we haven't even like we just got to the point where we were like oh yeah Sarkesian Texas fired Tom Herman three weeks after they were like no it's good I need to talk about something yeah go ahead I think at the time when Chris Delcanti gave Tom Herman they dreaded vote of confidence if I remember correctly
Starting point is 00:18:54 we avoided really dwelling on the fact that he had received the dreaded vote of confidence because the term dreaded vote of confidence is a cliche right it's it's so it's so deeply embedded as natural law in our universe that there's no point in dwelling on it so we all kind of gave that little sad disinterested laugh ha ha dreaded vote of confidence and moved on here's the thing dreaded vote of confidence became a cliche within our ecosystem because it happens all the time. And I, for one, forgot about that. It was four days before signing day that out of the other Texas' AD says,
Starting point is 00:19:33 he is our coach and he will continue to be our coach. Signing Day happens. And he did continue to be the coach for a few more weeks with the signatures official in locked in and then won a bowl game and then he was no longer the head coach. And those signatures are still locked in. Like, not a lot of them, but, you know, several four-star athletes who quite possibly would have signed elsewhere.
Starting point is 00:19:54 yeah it's really cool thanks chris so you think they would naturally go this far and pay this much money somewhere around i don't know twenty four million dollars in total buyouts that they're going to have to just pay out has it ever been clearer that there is nobody in charge at that school took you three weeks dude like there's nobody in charge three weeks how if you if it takes you three weeks to make a decision and get everything straight you're not in charge you're not like i don't know who runs texas i really don't sentient message boards run texas now sentient message boards can at least like launch campaigns right yeah yeah i mean look at look at their not at all rivals at texags i thought you're going to bring up k-pop's eggs can you run the tex athletic department please
Starting point is 00:20:49 they probably could at least better i i know who won their bowl game both both programs okay tied who's who's got a coach that you know like they locked down and that they lock down for like guaranteed money in 10 years that's an extremely yeah that's some extremely message board shit by the way to be like we should pay them 85 000 million dollars for 20 years lock him down put a fence around jimbo have none of these people ever been married Jimbo has. Um, yeah, oh, God.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Chomp, chomp. Who, yeah. But, by the way, Jimbo, Jimbo was scooting last night. Like, he hasn't scooted in years. It's the billionaire scooting buggy. Yeah. Sitting there dodging, dodging fire left and right with the first step that had me thinking, like, he probably ran like a 4-8.
Starting point is 00:21:52 He's an athlete. 4-9, somewhere around there. You had a quick first step. I still think they should have done the thing where they hit him. They run up on him with what is obviously and visibly a large container of confetti. And they shower him with it and like, ha ha, got you coach. And then the second he turns away, they're right behind him with icy blue Gatorade cooler in the face. You really got to, if you want to get Jimbo with the Gatorade, you've got to flank him with a pincor movement.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Because he'll spot your first encroachment. And you got to have a second jug there. approach you from the other side. I think if you go back and watch like a minute before, yes, at least with that 10-yard split. He's quick off the line. I don't know if he can keep it up over a full 40, but if you watch like,
Starting point is 00:22:35 it was like a minute or two before the dowsing. There were a few players planning their approach toward Jimbo. And a GA, a staff, or something like that, some pretty young dude in a polo came up and waved him off, told him to go back. That's also the dude who's running with the jug at the end. So that dude tried to out-scheme Jimbo, should have gone through with it right then and there when they had the opportunity.
Starting point is 00:22:56 But he said, no, no, no, it's not time. It's not time. You got to take your target acquired. Fire it. Don't wait till the game's over. He valued his scheme more than the circumstances and it cost him. Yeah, he scripted his plays when, in fact, should have called Audible. It's right there. Dunk the coach now. He'll yell at you, but so what? Everybody's got a plan until you get hit in the face with Gatorade. One of these days, we'll get a team that does it in the third quarter. Just to get it out of the way.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Just to say they did it. I hope it's Alabama. Nick Saban is the maddest person on earth for a full hour. Coaching the last 19 minutes of the game soaked in red can. This did happen to LSU last year, of course, or two years ago, but that involved seven overtime. But yeah, I went Nick Zaven dunked at halftime as he is talking to CBS about all the things he hates about his 35 point halftime lead. Yeah, as he's barking, darn headphones don't work. Well, the coach, they don't work because we doused him with wet gatorade.
Starting point is 00:24:00 I think I've spotted the problem here, coach. I would also take, I would also take, uh, blast the coach with dry Gatorade powder instead. Oh, man, that's going to get, you're going to get cinnamon in your lungs. I know, you're going to give him some kind of baker's lung thing where he's like, I don't know, it makes crispy noises when I breathe and I weave all the time. looks like a fucking lime green ghost let's just hit him at SEC media day just do that just dress up like
Starting point is 00:24:31 Alabama players and take the podium you've been fucking you've been fucking fun-dipped coach just a big fucking lebron uh chalk clap right in his face oh mango gross chomp chom oh god
Starting point is 00:24:48 no i just i just lick my arm whenever i need a little pep throughout the game. Saban getting so heated that his headphones weren't working. Oh God. I was so happy in that moment. His team's only beating Notre Dame at that
Starting point is 00:25:04 point by something like 14 or 17 points. The shame. Yeah. And they bring him up and he can't hear. He's like, what? What? It doesn't. I'm sorry. I can't. What? No. No. Oh, fine. Yeah, I'll do the interview. Like he's so
Starting point is 00:25:20 angry. His anger makes me so happy. You know he's yelled. You know he's screamed in a room by himself. What the hell's buffering? Terry? Haven't we all? It's been a while. I like the coach is still on
Starting point is 00:25:38 1997 internet. I don't trust in it's Casa. I only trust internet that I have to call with the phone. It doesn't make the noise. You know the noise I'm talking about? that's actually the noise that nick makes when you plug him in at night to charge to charge insert two to insert little debby's insert little debby's so texas went and uh they
Starting point is 00:26:08 fired tom herman and this is getting to the important stat for me which is so surely they went out and they hired somebody with a better win percentage and then tom herman um Steve Sarkasian's win percentage overall and his stops at Washington and then at USC. His win percentage is a total of 568. 568 overall. It's 81 and 46 or I'm sorry, he's 46 and 35 as a head coach with a two and two record and bowls. Surely that's got to be better than Tom Herman.
Starting point is 00:26:47 because Tom Herman overall has a oh look at that he's got a 7-11 overall with the 640 at Texas and is 5 and 1 in bowl games I know he always aced the final exam as I said and managed to pull his grade up a little bit toward the end of the year but yeah so they went out they spent 24 million dollars to go get a dude with a worse winning percentage than the guy they just fired. Yeah, but Spencer, this guy just led an offense
Starting point is 00:27:24 that scored a lot of points with Alabama football players. You know how hard that is to do? You know, Steve Sarkisian does run the best offense, which is, I'm going to have better players than you. That's an amazing offense if you can get it. What are you going to do? Well, I like to have Matt Liner
Starting point is 00:27:45 throw to Dwayne Jarrett or Mark Sanchez throw in to Stefan Johnson or handed it off to him. I like to have Reggie Bush. It's really good if you can get a Reggie Bush and a Lendell wait on the field at the same time. Do you have a Devante Smith? I find that having a Devante Smith
Starting point is 00:28:02 is it a crucial ingredient in any great offense. He probably wouldn't say that about Mac Jones, right? It's nice to have one. her. Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, it's better than some of the alternatives. I mean, he's, I think he's leading the country and passervating still. So, yeah, pretty nice to have. I mean, he seems okay.
Starting point is 00:28:27 But yeah, I think so. Seems okay. Seems fine. That is typically what that means. But, yeah, right now, a 203, last year, Joe Burrow had a 201.9. So, yeah, he's doing fine. Mac Jones also from Jacksonville Is he?
Starting point is 00:28:47 Yeah Oh dear Maxonville Yep So he's gonna get that's who they're drafting Oh my God if they did that Also With the first pick in the NFL draft
Starting point is 00:28:59 We select Mac Jones Mac Jones of course was once a Kentucky commit So there's a fun alternate history for you Him just handing off 40 times a game And then the game's over And that's it That's his entire college career
Starting point is 00:29:11 Oh God, the Jags are going to select him This is happening It's going to be Trevor Nope, Mac Jones, okay He's coming home, he's coming home, he's coming home home home Mama's calling Mama called Mama called she needs bail She said, are you stupid?
Starting point is 00:29:31 Not all Mama calls are good Most of them are not Yeah Mama called your daddy's getting arrested On the golf course again mama called collect oh yeah I don't I don't know what Texas
Starting point is 00:29:48 this is like I don't know what Texas is doing so I we should preface all this by saying like nobody actually knows how coaching hires are going to work out every year like there are ones that seem stupid that work really like the team Texas beat in the bowl game
Starting point is 00:30:08 Colorado ended up like with I think like Carl Jarrell, at least based on very limited year one information, that looks like a fine hire. It didn't at the time. It wasn't exciting or interesting or it was interesting, but it wasn't like, oh, yeah, really sound decision making here. It seemed bizarre. And then you have Tom Herman who was like, oh, that's no doubt. Look what he did in Houston.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Now give him Texas money. Right. Remember a must champ? Nope. Sure don't. No, remember how specifically salty I was with the two of y'all? Because y'all had gotten must champ. Oh, no, I honestly don't.
Starting point is 00:30:49 I don't remember. Were you? Yeah, I was. Oh, my God. You remember this. Can you imagine him in Tennessee after they put up like two points for nine weeks that are rogues or working on it? We're working on it.
Starting point is 00:31:09 It actually would have been real interesting because there's a, faction of Tennessee, including members of my own family, who would have seen the two points and been like, that's just, that's just as much offense as we need. We don't want to be showy. That's right. You know what? Those games are quick, if nothing else. I mean, he has a winning record in Neeland, right? My point is, like, I honestly have no idea. And I have long given up prognosticating whether a hire is good or bad. I will say this.
Starting point is 00:31:44 When the Sark hire was announced, one of the things that came with it to sort of like make Texas fans excited about it was like, oh boy, wait a little you see this staff he's going to bring in. It's going to be fucking awesome. And then a day later, I have to look at Twitter
Starting point is 00:32:00 and see something from one of the many Texas football websites out there that is like Mike Stoops is not coming to Texas. So I'm like, okay. something what is happening it's over where did we get lost
Starting point is 00:32:17 from like holy shit this lineup guys you are going to be fucking floored to Mike Stoops is not coming to death what happened
Starting point is 00:32:25 do you move along to fucking Steve Stoops Yep Carl Stoops How far down No relation You laugh But don't forget
Starting point is 00:32:33 There's a Ron How deep are you Plum in the Stoops pile Shoup stoop's I got this No we got last stoops Lyle Stoops
Starting point is 00:32:46 How far are you stooping The Italian stooping Primero Stoops How far are you stooping to conquer Zebulon Stoops Been off the grid for 15 years Coming in to run special teams Three English majors on this call
Starting point is 00:33:01 Getting after it like an old prospector Zebulon Stoops That's a state rancher series right there it is another steppeeland stupe is absolutely getting the look i can't really like i don't know what's going to work either it is fun i think to just go yeah i don't like realistically what do you expect to happen at texas given what everyone else is done there like let me just blackbox it's like not sarkesian let's just take another guy another guy I've seen enough people go into that job now who I thought were pretty good at what they did
Starting point is 00:33:40 and they end up with the same problems and the same teams and they just kind of all look the same so I don't know maybe maybe you're the guy who fixes that maybe you're the guy who gets it all together I don't think the problem there is necessarily one that the coach can solve well this is this is what's interesting is that rumoredly Sark like didn't could have maybe gotten the Auburn job didn't really get far along in the process to say like yes he was offered it whatever but decided not decided to sort of like pull himself out of the running because as we all know at this point things were just a shit show like different factions and boosters not on the same page undercutting blah blah blah to say like whoa Auburn you are a fucking mess yes I will take the
Starting point is 00:34:29 Texas job that's stability I didn't really thought about that but you Like, that's wild to me. It's like, whoa, hang on, I'm not buying a boat. Those things are crazy. What I will buy is a houseboat because then I can live on it as well. Listen, I'm not here to play on insane difficulty, just madman difficulty. See, it's real estate and it's on the water. See, you always got waterfront property when you own a houseboat.
Starting point is 00:34:56 That's a tofer. God. I'm not playing Oregon Trail as peasant. I mean, at least getting a shovel or something. diseased shovel i mean please remember in the last three weeks this had happened at texas which was this chris delcante no we're not going after urban mire every booster who could call somebody who would listen we're going after urban mire don't tell anyone like i hadn't seen like that's i hadn't seen that since tennessee in the group of boosters who would just go talk to
Starting point is 00:35:28 john gruden and john gruden would say so was the president on board what are you guys doing I don't know you, and he's like, no, that's cool. I'm pretty sure John Gruden was like, so you guys comp in this, we get in dessert? Speaking of not every mama calls is a good call, John Gruden. But Mama kept calling. It's more like a distant ante. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Remember me? That is a mother-in-law situation, right? That's a mother-in-law, technically. There is a funny path here where Sark does really well at Texas. Urban has a terrible fucking time coaching the Jaguars and he has to watch it from a far. God damn it. I knew I shouldn't have taken the fuck. My fucking agent told me, hold out, take the Jaguars job.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Duval. Oh, and agents now. Agents now need that cut, right? Especially now that like agencies like CA are involved and they're under pressure from like hedge funds to increase returns. You're just going to see people taking jobs that like they have no business taking. I don't even, why would an agent want you to go to the pros? Stick around and just work the buyout circuit. Yeah, because going to the pros, you can't even get fired at 8 and 8.
Starting point is 00:36:42 That doesn't seem like a great, a great rondelay from the agent perspective. Do you want to keep somebody as attractive as possible for as long as possible, with as maximum pull as possible? And get them fired as frequently as possible. Yeah. Which is what they were trying to. to do with clay helton whoops they fucked around and are stuck with clay helton for god knows how long and surely clay hilton wriggle out of this mess and who did clay hilton come after well nevertheless
Starting point is 00:37:16 so clay hilton is clay hilton's next up for alabama and then tex or the jacks yeah or some clay hilton be perfect for the pros because people would be like who's that i love the kiffin sark clay pipeline because it's like all right we got to dial it down let's get like like the less the less poster version of kiffin bring in sark and then even sark is like oh gosh we need to dial this down we need the most boring guy possible get get the creative coach get him out here yeah can i get the for sensitive stomachs version give me the maylock sark yeah gluten-free sark can i get the can i get the senior cat formula version of lean kiffin yeah go get clay hilton can i get can i get a can i get a plain kiffin yeah wow
Starting point is 00:38:13 yeah that's that's what you're talking about man by the way kiffin getting extension off four and five and this year finesse but it's i think it's more because he is uh out recruiting arkansas by like a spot that's probably he couldn't beat him on the field but but out recruiting arkansas is probably what did it like he goes four and five let's matt corral like gets mack carell out there lets him throw like five thousand times a game has one of the worst defenses in fb s is exciting and throws his clipboard 300 feet in the air and his agent's like so how bad it'll miss and old miss is like we'll give you 900 million dollars to just stay and say you love us and kiffin's in the corner with the karaoke bite going finesse oh miss got be real familiar
Starting point is 00:39:04 with that arrangement i got finesse oh god that's so good i'm so happy that he did that you're just it's also it's also the phrasing like i'm looking at the press release now and it's it's headlined old miss commits to kiffin with new contract i think they tweeted it with like old miss invests in its future it's fucking win let's invest in a solid bond like Lane Kiffin Lane Kiffin I'd like to marry you
Starting point is 00:39:36 Why you can't call Lane Kiffin in investment Again we're back to the houseboat The houseboat is not an investment Just because you can drink and fall asleep In the same vessel without breaking the law You can drink and fall asleep in any vessel Yeah legally
Starting point is 00:39:54 Oh legally I parked that thing drop banker full sleep drunk on it i'm good and by the way that's not true but my understanding of boat law because i am not a coastal carolina grad it's very poor at best but yeah we're back to the houseboat again you don't invest in lane kiffman don't sell this to be like it's going to have an annual return that just keeps going up over the years okay there's going to be ups there's going to be downs and and actually this makes it the most old miss investment of all because go look at the win percentages for old miss over the years that thing is an irregular like cardiogram whole thing just all over the map so kind of perfect well done old miss i also
Starting point is 00:40:32 like that old miss was like we're committing to lane kiffin and people were like what are the details of the detail of the deal and they're like we're not going to tell you we're committed that's it we're having a baby is it yours i'm not commenting on that we're having a baby who's baby a baby by the way, that announcement does not say Kiffin committing to Old Miss, does it? No. It doesn't. Hell no. You can't leash a tiger?
Starting point is 00:41:04 You crazy? Yeah, you know what? This is an open relationship. What does that mean? That's a lion. I'm openly awesome. That's what this means. It's an open relationship because my receivers, they're open all the time.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Throw, baby. Matt Corral's winning the highs been next year. Just throwing that out there. With 30 interceptions. Yeah, she can have throwing it out there. this is going to be one of those rare actual heisman and people's heisman confluence years 100% oh yeah it's gonna happen like we'll get this guy who like we're like no no way he can do it and then eight weeks in the season will be like i think it's happening it's happening it's gonna win with 60 t ds and like 30 interceptions easy so i was looking at uh i just googled the word beans and clicked shopping beans are in the news have you seen this have you heard of this yeah uh and uh bush's baked beans or 99 cents a can at a target near you. If I were to use my retirement fund
Starting point is 00:42:03 at acorns.com slash full cast, cash it all out right now, give up all my future on a houseboat and invest entirely in canned baked beans from Target. Spencer, that's how I could afford 111 cans of baked beans, folks. Shit. That is so many lessons for my daughter on how to use household,
Starting point is 00:42:26 equipment. But I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that because we already have beans. We're going to eat the current beans and let the acorns fund grow because it is very easy to add the nickels and dimes from individual purchases, beans or otherwise. And once those dollars are in there, they grow magically like an acorn in the dirt. No one knows how acorns grow and no one knows how the investment market works. But this app taps into that magic and makes number go bigger. acorns.com slash fullcast to begin the process of opening your can of investment i will say this i actually joined acorns this week big news hey that i salute a toast to you my partner in retirement eventually yeah planting some seats i used the uh i used the family plan because i wanted to
Starting point is 00:43:21 just set up a little just a little count for my boys just you know teach them about hey put this aside see what happens. Let it grow. Are you going to let them... How'd that gone? Yeah, are you going to let them fuck with it? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:43:33 And I know what will happen. One of them will 100% invest in like... He'll be like, you need to invest in the candy and bus companies. Mark buses and candies. Invest in the truck fund.
Starting point is 00:43:46 $100 on anime dogs. Buy! No, that's the other one. Invest in trains and anime dogs, you know? And that account will actually beat the market by 400%
Starting point is 00:43:56 right in the snow in the snowpiercer universe you're rich yeah and we're headed that way anyway and he'll be totally right uh the other one will blow it it's completely blow it i know that's what the other one does which is why i'm going to rely on the sound investment advice this house is a walking stanford marshmallow experiment the failing side of it yes was there a good side of it yes yes a lot of good sorry i'm thinking of the stanford prison experiment yeah there's also that going on here too um but I set up a couple accounts for the kids and the performance so far wow the market gain 29% for my initial investment by the way that means we're up 29 cents but it's popping all right we're an ass yeah and that's just in like the last three days since I set it up so acorns is
Starting point is 00:44:44 already paying dividends for my family and our future wealth that's the kind of turnaround that gets you an extension of an old mess buddy Ole Miss is investing in Spencer Feet. But yeah, watch the playoff games. They were both highly enjoyable. Yeah, that was, huh, that second one got interesting. I mean, Notre Dame, in hindsight, put a pretty darn good fight. They covered.
Starting point is 00:45:20 That was way more competitive than some other things. things some other games that transpired clemson put up a bad fight not much of one they did they put up a bad sloppy dad gets too drunk in the florida panhandle on vacation kind of fight that was the what was the what was the city where all the fireworks accidentally got led at once yeah that was this this was their san diego fourth of july because in the first like 10 minutes the game you're like oh yeah clemson's oh the show is over oh we ran it out of fire oh oh go home mm-hmm um you know what clemson had clemson had exactly 10 minutes worth of good ideas they did they had a stand-up comedy well that's quibby you're talking about
Starting point is 00:46:08 quibby yeah quibs i was talking about that is it too late to buy that it is investment dollars it is because with our pooled resources we would be close but hulu actually just bought their archives fuck shit yeah so Hulu bought all of Quibi's content so gonna have to buy it is so you can just get the Queby idea now I just say it is real fucked up that you knew that oh that's yeah that's because I have an alert for Queby that's how addicted that was that's how I like that Spencer doesn't check his personal email where people he knows may be reaching out to him but he set up an alert for Queby well of queby I know which one's not going to give me anything but pleasure.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Reading about Quibi's demise. You and what golden arm? Yeah, that's it. I'm going to go on Hulu and I'm going to watch that show about the girl's damn golden arm. Oh, fuck. I hope Sark's first press conference in Austin comes out with that golden arm.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Behold! And I will use it to raise my golden hat when I beat Oklahoma. Actually, the boosters at Texas would really respond to that. They'd be like, Damn, he's got a golden arm. Look at that thing.
Starting point is 00:47:24 That sucker's rich. I love it. We're not scared anymore. Jimbo would just look down on his legs and he'd be like, boys, y'all got to go. You're fast and you're pretty. It's time for those diamond legs. I've been working on diamond legs for 15 years. They call me Diamond legs, Jim.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Well, around here, all we do is sing about sawing them off, so. Old, old diamond, old diamond legs, Jimbo. I'm more ATM machine than man now. Just him fancy, like, just him unveiling them with a tear-off pants, right? And then Sark, talking that. Sark becoming fucking Sark Vader. In a whole metallic suit. My love for you burns hotter than my legless torso, Texas.
Starting point is 00:48:21 oh yeah i it's over a and m notre dame has the high ground fuck you i'm rich i think pit has the higher ground right they got a hill that's true clemson i think most clompson has the hit's obi won yeah oh oh yeah clipson has the incredible elevation advantage over there they did they did they've been struck down though oh i mean listen obi won And Obi-Wan's arc doesn't just go up. To be clear, Obi-Wan has a very Clemsony arc. Like, boy, things are going very well.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Oh, no. Oh, no. If you strike me down, I will... If you strike me down, I will secure a five-star commitment. I'm fumbling. That's the best part about that, is that from a certain perspective, yeah, it looks like Obi-Wan transcends mortality and heads into the next plane
Starting point is 00:49:20 to join the greats and teaches Luke the lesson that he needs to learn, having completed his mission on this plane. However, also, it's just him going, if you strike me down, and Vader going like, yeah. Honestly, I think it was March, and Obi-Wan just didn't want to do his taxes. That is actually why you and McGregor
Starting point is 00:49:38 came back to do that show. Fuck, all these fucking receipts. Fuck it. Just kill me, dude. I mean, the man had been on the run for a while. That's right. Oh, fuck. Oh, Jesus. My save deposit box. on Aldron, fuck!
Starting point is 00:49:53 I think that does trail well, that does sort of pattern Clemson, you know, because they're like, yeah, I'm very tired. I could continue doing this, or I could just let you run by me. Well, Justin Fields throws the ball over my head. Speaking of Justin Fields,
Starting point is 00:50:11 yeah, but... It sounds like you want to talk about Ohio State. I'd love to talk about the bucks. Let's talk about him. The blacks. Ohio State. Coming at you. The Tigers. They're kings.
Starting point is 00:50:30 I need some tanner for the winner. That's all I got. Ryan, that was exquisite. That was great, Ryan. I'm so broken. Chiquotow! Yeah, I don't. I don't really know.
Starting point is 00:50:50 whether i don't know how big a win this was except in the emotional sense because i sort of think clemson was uh clemson really didn't match up well with them at all and clemson was like ah you know evidently not as good as we thought they were i don't know if this is a matter of ohio state being amazing but of maybe clemson catching the what turned out to be a demonstrably soft ac c for most of the year even with the addition of notre dame No, no, ACC just beat itself up. ACC weakened itself. That's what happened.
Starting point is 00:51:25 To the point where they went 0 and 6 in bowl season. Yep, yep, they tuckered themselves out. The grueling ACC schedule. They did play 23 games this year. The first post I saw this morning, knew it was going to be an awesome day of posting, was John Feinstein saying he's sick of the ACC being overrated and all the replies being,
Starting point is 00:51:43 when the fuck did that happen, John Feinstein? Who the hell overrated the ACC? I'm glad some of you can still see that. That bitch has me blocked. Who has ever overrated the ACC? Holly, I'm going to tell him you're a troop, and then he'll respect you again. No, just tell him I called him a bitch again. Just like Coach Knightwood.
Starting point is 00:52:02 I'm over here practicing identity politics, John, by which I mean you're a huge bitch, and I'm not. My identity is being awesome, and yours is not. That's my identity politics. Enormous bitch. I don't. David Hale, who's just a wonderful college football writer and a devotee of the ACC and who probably knows as much about the conference as anyone who has ever covered it and is exact about it. Today on Twitter was just like, yeah, this conference sucks. It's just like in the power of five.
Starting point is 00:52:41 He comes by that opinion honestly, too. He's like, I know we went on six in bowls and you can kind of contextualize. a lot of losses there but like go back and look at the record over the last 10 years of the conference versus all power five competition it's the worst it's not even close there's ups and downs for other conferences there's ebbs and flows there are the variations one might expect over the course of time involving one conference playing everyone else and the acc it's just continual like low balling and flatlining but everyone's already known this i mean and like david like they will back up his work and he'll say like listen
Starting point is 00:53:14 this isn't just a meme no one's slandering the acc here are the records here are the facts or other seats but like at no point has anyone ever you know i guess i'm still stuck on the the feinstein idea at no point is anyone ever disagreed with this remember that john feinstein took the concord home so he could see a sick cat at the there's nothing wrong with that at the expense of his employer no that was you're making him sound cool yeah that's the one thing i've agreed with him on ever this was saying we're slandering him and i'm like he he ran he hit up the national for like a tremendous amount of money because he was like ah i got to go take care of my cat would you not do that
Starting point is 00:53:52 for the full cat i would but i don't know if i'd make him take the concord i would make i probably make up any excuse to take concord i just want it more i mean yeah i mean if i could like if that were an option because i'm sitting here like i don't know you could just put me like coach just get me on the first one i'd be good then i'd be like hmm this place could be out of business in two years i might as well hit him up for first class a real calculation I might make, you know. Also, it does depend on the cat. Like the full cat, I'd absolutely do that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:25 I would say, if it's Mike the tiger, I might just take the slow one. Wow. Her because he's going to be fine, or? You know, they'll just find another one. That's what I've learned. That's not, damn. Apparently, like, you can just go like, hey, maybe you shouldn't keep a live tiger on campus.
Starting point is 00:54:45 And they're like, but maybe. we'll just keep getting them you're like seems ill advised you of all people I can't believe it was you all right yeah that's are you okay
Starting point is 00:54:56 I'm fine I wanted to compliment I think what really stuck out in the Ohio State Clemson game was how how everybody was on the same page and by that I mean when Justin Fields gets very clearly
Starting point is 00:55:10 hurt and likely injured in a question mark way because as far as I know nobody said exactly like what the injury was or what they did to treat it everybody the announcers the coaches you know they're they're all on the same page of like well he didn't get an x-ray that's probably a good thing right sure yep toughness and grit that's the important thing and we're not going to ask any questions at all about why he's still out there playing uh after walking was hard probably fine everything's cool go football
Starting point is 00:55:46 just coming out of that locker room in the second half like well man he's moving like nothing's wrong mm-hmm mm-hmm i mean he threw like eight touchdowns with whatever his ailment was yeah i mean have you ever have you ever taken a hit like that like been hit or had some sort of like back to the side like either a helmet or landing on something i have fallen onto a picket fence i have and then i threw like eight touchdowns oh my god never mind jason's better yeah justin kirk no jason fields i he is from kennesaw he is from kansas might i had wait justin kirk is jason fields yeah jason feudsman also went to my high school by the way damn i'm a buckeye honorary my mom's from ohio i'm a buckeye
Starting point is 00:56:34 ohio state's about to claim everything good you have ever done i feel like yeah we did that he's ohio bred buck i brad buck i bred ohio raised jason kirk sure well marbled i i don't like if you've had that injury it's god or any like taking a huge hit on that area of your body it's the absolute worst i have spencer what experience are you speaking from here i broke bone in my lower back when i fell off of a pull-up bar and landed on a 45 pound oh this was during full cast era This is fairly recently. Yeah. And I fell on a bumper plate and broke one of the transverse processes.
Starting point is 00:57:16 You had the Bryce Petty injury. Yeah, I had the Bryce Petty injury. But I have a question. It's a pretty common football injury, right? Did a doctor tell you, hey, you broke part of your body? Eventually, yes, but I drove home from the gym first. See? There's always...
Starting point is 00:57:29 There's always... There's always precedent. You're right. Yeah, I mean, well... Just came up on the show before because the way that Spencer's wife explained the injury to me made it sound later as though they had conceived their first son in the emergency room
Starting point is 00:57:46 and it turns out that that's just the way she was telling the story and that's not actually how it happened but for a couple of years after he was born I believe that he had been conceived that night in the ER because your wife was like well this might be the best this might be all I ever get hop on yeah
Starting point is 00:58:06 I'm kind of disappointed that that's not the case Frank Oh, I could not have done that. No, it was excruciating pain. I've told this story on the show before. I just didn't think we were going to get there from Justin Fields got brutal fucking hit.
Starting point is 00:58:23 He brought this up again. I just wanted to point out that it was during the full cast era. Yeah, I don't know how he did that. I thought it was heroic. Yeah. I was talking about your wife. Thank you. Not my performance, but Yeah, the pain.
Starting point is 00:58:40 You know, do you think they will ever, do you think they will ever say, like, will we ever get a diagnosis or will it just be like mystery hit? So, I mean, I think the one incentive here is the draft. Sure. Because it goes two ways. You know, either NFL teams want to find out exactly what happened. Or if it turns out, you know, there's incentive also for fields to demonstrate what he played through, right? toughness say like well you did that and imagine if he'd been healthy could have been even better yeah so like i think the financial incentives i think will ensure the truth eventually comes out
Starting point is 00:59:19 the invisible hand will work its match basically not on the rib itself but there will be no doctor's hand those are visible by the way is the funniest possible outcome that justin fields opts out now yes i think i've one thousand percent He just puts everybody's love and loyalty to the test by being like, I've proven what I need to prove. I think what he does is he, as soon as he gets the notification, Falcons clenched the top four pick. Okay, I'm out. Heading home.
Starting point is 00:59:55 This is, by the way, the Fields Fromm thing, because that was again going around Twitter during the game, as if we can't let that go, because never will. Competing dead pages of Agoncourt. If he For the record Jake Fromm is now in the playoffs So like
Starting point is 01:00:12 Calm the fuck down Of the NFL Yes Is he a GA? Oh Interesting He's What is he
Starting point is 01:00:20 He's a He's a string behind Josh Allen I'll pull up The Pchart Hold on How dare you ask? We'll never know
Starting point is 01:00:28 Because it's not like Josh Allen's ever going to be injured How dare you ask? If Jake If Jake the sharpshooter From is G. He's GA as hell
Starting point is 01:00:36 He's He's He's he's third string behind matt barclay and who did matt barclay play for u s c baby lane kiffin that's right there it is that's right um i did like with if he gets drafted by the falcons and wins a super bowl with the falcons do you know it'll be trending four years from now when this happens kirby jake from kirby and jake from that's it the entire the entire the entire The entire Ohio State Clemson game, trending in Georgia.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Kirby. Kirby. After they beat Cincinnati in a bowl game, no less. Yeah, it was seriously like, like, you could just picture the Georgia fan mood like, oh, we didn't lose to the, oh, fuck. Surely we'll just process this with maturity and let bygones be shit. We're talking about it again. We're the seventh best team in the country.
Starting point is 01:01:33 country. God damn. Oh, God damn it. They could have been the first best team in the country. You got J.G. Daniels who's awesome. This is how you know Georgia fans are a different degree of spoiled now, right? Fortunately, they're bearing it with good grace and good humor. Also, the only quarterback in the country who might be better than Justin Fields,
Starting point is 01:01:59 according to both the upcoming NFL draft and the recruiting industry three years ago. also from Georgia yeah really awesome job really really awesome job well that's that's okay that's okay
Starting point is 01:02:13 we'll get the next one we'll get the next one y'all uh-huh who is the running back for for Oregon his first name is Britain Britain books
Starting point is 01:02:28 yeah which I thought his name was British books and I got really excited I don't think it's actually Britain books but I remember thinking that it was British books yeah no I heard that and I thought why isn't that mean? Why are you searching for British Oreos
Starting point is 01:02:45 that's not what we're talking about at all? That is his name Wayne keep going go down that trail the Oregon running back death chart you have Cross Patton son of big boy and you have British Oreos is the guy ahead of him that's amazing I just heard him last night And I was like, why is he not a Georgia quarterfax? You're just, you're just, British is not part of his name.
Starting point is 01:03:09 I can't say that. That's joke. Okay, no, La Michael James is not British. Anyway, his name is Welsh La Michael James. Can somebody else look this up because Spencer just keeps typing British Oregon running backs? Why don't you look at Oregon's roster with the, with, I'm away off here, that that might be a good. That would be, that would be a better decision. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:03:32 I mean, honestly And it probably better to just type words And hope one of them's right Why would we do the sensible thing? Are we sure it's a running back? Because there's a guy named Sean Dollars By saying I thought this guy's name was There's a guy named Sean Dollars
Starting point is 01:03:48 Yeah, he's a freshman That's amazing Good Lord There's also Diomador Lenoir That's some Tennessee shit Sean Dollars is still the winner there my god what a wcw name i've thrown you completely into tilt by saying
Starting point is 01:04:07 aloud during the game i keep thinking this guy's name is british books shan dollars god what an amazing name um yeah no i i was just watching i was watching them and going that's there's a lot of extremely uGA names so never mind me yeah i'm not saying any name never going to figure out this kid's actual name i'm not saying any name that sounds anything like British whatsoever. Was it even Oregon?
Starting point is 01:04:34 I will figure this out. Is it Iowa State? It was not Iowa State. There's not that much interesting to say about British Oreos in case anybody's wondering. Do they have like... Is this name English?
Starting point is 01:04:47 Hang on. It's like fish and chips flavor. They don't have any weird flavors. It's boring. It's just regular shit. Yes, but what's in? Iowa State has a blaze dachshund. Blase dachshund.
Starting point is 01:05:01 sure the world's fastest the world's fastest uh tiny dog jesus that's amazing um that's a pop patrol shit right there i did see the best burn on debo i have ever seen in during the game once the once the full route was on which was someone calling him jet sweep joel o's dean wow yeah yeah love it that's that's that's damn perfect y'all lady chatterley's lover for 300 yards he did it he did it um can we go back to the notre dame game briefly yeah i have i have one thank you please i have one complaint i because i largely agree with jason that Notre Dame didn't play like particularly poorly they just they lost in the ways that they should have lost to a very very very fucking good Alabama team defense played well I would say the defense played fine I like I don't have a good sense of it but like it felt like at some point in the second half Alabama was just like we're good like we we don't really have a desire to score 50 points okay we found him who is I was close.
Starting point is 01:06:27 It's the North Carolina running back whose name is British Brooks. Ooh. Who if we reversed it would be a perfect UGA quarterback because he'd be Brooks British. Brooks British, yeah. Oh, that's awfully close to France.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Like, Bama still threw for almost 10 yards a pass, went 25 of 30 through the air, and still ran for 140 yards on top of that. But like... So Notre Dame gave up 7.95 yards per play. Yeah. The team that is proudest of its performance against Alabama, Texas A&M,
Starting point is 01:07:01 gave up two more yards per play than that. Okay. Well, yeah, so I thought they, so my issue is really on the offensive side of the ball. And it's really with just one thing where early in the game, I think it was Todd McShay. Somebody was saying, like, you know, we talked to Brian Kelly, and he says they're going to be more aggressive on fourth down, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then they didn't do it. Like, they punted on fourth and eight from their own 29.
Starting point is 01:07:29 That was early. That's fine. Whatever. Then they punted on fourth and five from their own 44 and fourth and eight from their own 43. And I just like, they ended up going, I think, two times, maybe, three times. And a lot of that was just end of the game, like, last quarter. There's no reason not to, whatever.
Starting point is 01:07:50 I think this is like just normal football. talk at this point. I think to play this Alabama team, you might as well go for it on fourth down a lot more than you might otherwise. Like fourth and like if it's in a makeable range and if it's in a part of the field where it's not immediately going to kill you, giving Bama the ball on like near midfield versus trying to pin him inside the 20, it really doesn't matter all that much. It's really not going to turn like it's really not necessarily going to stop them or hold them whatever so like just go for it i i wish notre dame had been more aggressive in that regard and just like push on fourth down more that's it especially if you have a guy like i'm book who's accurate
Starting point is 01:08:36 in the short game and can keep things alive why don't you press a four and fourth and three right why don't you press a fourth and five because those are the kind of throws that especially with big tight ends as targets those are the kind of throws he can make man yeah and like you basically have to, you know, like, Notre Dame probably knew going into this game, we need to steal a possession in one way or another, whether it's a fake or turnover, but like a converted fourth down is kind of like stealing a possession in some ways. Like fourth and one, whatever, it's just sort of, you know, you should always go for those. But if you pick up fourth and seven, fourth and eight, like, you effectively stole possession and you probably did it with pretty good field position
Starting point is 01:09:18 to boot. So, like, that's my only complaint is I wish Notre, underdame had been had just like said fuck it let's go for it a little more than that they don't have like watch another dame they don't have anybody you stretches the field they don't have anybody because remember the thing about bam is that yeah you can pass on them you might be able because they play single coverage you might be able to pull guys but there are two things that prevented notre dame for doing that one their head coach said before the game and i cannot believe he said this out loud yeah we're not going to throw up patrick sur tan they still like It just did not.
Starting point is 01:09:52 They didn't know. They tried to like twice and nearly threw a pick on one of them. Yeah, no, we're just not going to put the ball near that dude. That's an admirable degree of pragmatism for a man who was normally ruled entirely by emotion. Yeah, no. And a guy who once, yeah, threw a whole bunch of passes in the middle of a hurricane, right? Called a bunch of passes. Just decided, yeah, we respect Patrick Sertan more than we respected a tropical storm once.
Starting point is 01:10:19 not the worst dance to take yeah no and two they don't have any wide outs i don't have anybody i don't know if there was a team that had like a bigger drop-off and like more contrast between that position than notre dame and alabama so the other day i'm like i don't know what any of these dudes do they run block seen run block pretty well they don't really get open they don't really do much but then there's alabama which has three to four to five deep of the most eye-popping white-outs you've ever seen. Like, to me, the reason I bring this complaint up is I think back to the Old Miss game, which Old Miss didn't win, but they hung with, like, a hell of a lot,
Starting point is 01:11:02 they hung with a hell of a lot longer than certainly Nick Saban would have liked them to. And Old Miss definitely, like, if there's one very clear difference between Old Miss and Notre Dame, it's that Notre Dame actually has a defense, and Old Miss does not. And Old Miss went four of four. on fourth down in that game and those were not like just late in the game well you know who cares what like they they try they were very aggressive and and i think that is part of what you have to do if you are undermatched talent wise which almost everybody is against alabama i don't know if necessarily ohio state has to embrace this but i do think and this kind of came up in the north
Starting point is 01:11:46 I think it came up in the Northwestern game in the Big Ten Championship, if I recall correctly, like there are times where if it's fourth and three, just fucking go for it. Like, there's no reason not to. Yeah, Ohio State is probably the only team that doesn't have to think like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:03 You know, and, well, I mean, I'm fine with how it went. Notre Dame Plus 20. Ryan Kelly was focused on getting the cover. Don't push it, don't risk it. Sure. Don't give me in a short field and blow the cover. let's let's focus on what's most important here fair although for an alabama ohio state match up ohio state might get in a position where they go yeah we might have scored too much
Starting point is 01:12:30 they really might get in that where they go yeah we've we've given alabama too many possessions because that was clearly notre dame's gameplay was not to give alabama too many possessions was to go slow was yeah there was a there was a tension because brian kelly was talking up time of possession right and and before and after the game was trying to manage expectations like was you know before like he had this mostly consistent message of just like holy shit look how talented they are come on right and uh but then he also threw in that we're going to play aggressive thing and one of those things jumps out you know yeah you can't do both you can't be like we're going to be slow but surly yeah you're not you can't say we're going to just try and play it
Starting point is 01:13:11 safe and get out of here and enjoy the fact that we almost won a conference kind of but going to be a belligerent sloth that's what we're going to be also aggressively lazy i mean this is how this is how stupid this year and this entire setup goes that i don't know if anyone else would have done better or uh less disappointingly than notre dame here i really don't feel like oh man ain't m you could put them back in they had a great poll game against unc yeah they and even then they still needed the last you know six to eight minutes of that game to salt it away sure against yeah against uh against a guy playing without most of his major tools on offense i mean it is dumb that notre dame was the best you know uh most capable candidate i don't know
Starting point is 01:14:04 about qualified because i would have said cincinnati even though they lost but it's not like cincinnis isn't to do any better Cincinnati against Alabama would have been um Yeah, it would not have been as good as Notre Dame Alabama, Notre Dame Alabama, wasn't that great. I think the only team you could put in at least make Bama expend effort might have been BYU. Because they're going to fucking wing it, right? If they're down by 30, so what? They're going to keep fucking winging it. Whereas Notre Dame is going to say, okay, we've, all right, let's just get out of here.
Starting point is 01:14:37 You know, frankly, it probably would have been Old Miss. Just put old miss back in. If you went up to Sabin and you said, what would piss you off the most at the foreseed. He probably says Giffin again. He didn't want to deal with that. He's like, you're so much of it. That's probably
Starting point is 01:14:56 his biggest complaint is that like they're just bullshit and there's so much of it. God, he's always talking just constantly quoting Fasten the Furious. Kats fucking stand. Oh my God. What's wrong with that? Nick Sabin wouldn't like it.
Starting point is 01:15:12 That's what I mean. All right. I feel like he would appreciate Tokyo Drift as the story of an Alabama boy who learns an important lesson about duty and fidelity but go off Okay Who do we have that could show
Starting point is 01:15:30 Sabin The Fast Movies And Determine Besides Lane? Seesle? Yeah Seesle heard if you're listening We need We got a job for you We do
Starting point is 01:15:43 Pete Golding, Pete Golding, if you're listening, and I know you are. Oh, yeah, Pete is locked in. Look at him. Take one look at Pete Golding. That man's got opinions. Pete, come on the show.
Starting point is 01:15:52 Pete, I have a quarter mile at a time. Let's talk about, Pete, let's talk about justice for Han. Yeah. Man, it's so fucked up that they're just friends
Starting point is 01:16:01 with the guy who killed Han. Listen, and okay, we're finally supposed to get a resolution to that storyline and has been pushed back a year and counting due to the pandemic, and I need to know what,
Starting point is 01:16:13 can i offer can i have for a short aside here so because 2021 won't be that much i don't even have a joke i'm just upset 2021 won't be that much better than 2020 sorry everybody my wife decided that the thing she wants to do this year is watch the fast and the furious movie she's never seen any of them perfect so ryan and i have already had this discussion yes so new year's eve we watched the first one together and mostly she was like wait race wars they're calling this racehorse and then the other night the other night she wanted to she was like I had a I had a call with a buddy I had to make and she was like I'm gonna watch fast too without you I was like that's great and I come back down and I'm like
Starting point is 01:16:58 hey how'd you like she's almost at the end and before I can even ask her how she likes she's like Tyrese is amazing there he makes so he makes so many bad choices and I understand all of them so that that is her uh so that is her her her gateway to the fast verse is yeah yeah yeah tyrese do keep us updated as we go tirese and ludicrous she also like really liked that ludicrous was the one character who was like buck that racing i'm not doing that no i'm just over here organized they they okay this is good because there's lots more of both sure yeah yeah also tyrese the only character who decided that the car to naturally drive on ice is an orange
Starting point is 01:17:42 Lamborghini. Obviously, one of the finest characters in the entire saga. It's so other hunters can see you. It's so polar bears know what's up. Stay away from me, Dick Cheney. Tyrese delivering
Starting point is 01:17:56 the seminal line, ejecto-sito goes. God, this movie's a treasure. But yeah, P. Goldings definitely owns all of the fast movies. I need this movie to come out on streaming because I need to know in what manner y'all have decided to retcon Jason Statham after three entire-ass movies of all of us being mad about him.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Time travel, isn't it? I need to know.

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