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Episode Date: January 29, 2020

As kids who grew up in LA, we felt it was important to share how we're processing this tragic loss for our community - Kobe Bryant, Gianna Bryant, John Altobelli, Keri Altobelli, Alyssa Altobelli, Christina Mauser, Ara Zobayan, Sarah Chester, and Payton Chester.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We had an episode that we were planning on airing this week, but I think that we've all been hit very hard by the unexpected death of Kobe and Gianna and their friends and those beautiful families that lost their lives. And I just felt like maybe this would be just for you and I to kind of talk. talk about why Kobe had such an impact on us. As kids, you know, we grew up here in L.A. And between L.A. and Colorado, but really, you know, lived in L.A. predominantly our

whole lives. And Kobe is really, and will always be a huge, he's an L.A. superhero for us. And anyway, I just felt like maybe we should talk about. what he meant to us and yeah I mean you knew him a little bit I was lucky enough to meet him about six or seven months ago and it was in passing but he is I mean he was

I've been a huge Lakers fan for ever and ever and ever and I think it's been hard for me to even accept it in a way i i don't know i think so to you i mean i what to say it was so tragic to mean and i have yet it doesn't hasn't you know it's actually i've wrote i've written a lot of things down i don't even feel comfortable talking about i know i know what you mean i know what you mean and i think the same thing even about like posting and talking about posting i was looking at jimmy kimmel talk about it. And I really, I really thought what he did was a really wonderful thing because I think

that, you know, we know that when these tragedies happen, that life does and things have to go on. But it feels almost, you feel guilty when something of this magnitude has such a shocking, it's just so shocking that you kind of don't know what to do. You don't know, you don't know what to say or it feels self-indulgent to say something. It feels self-indulgent to post or talk about what you know. But I will say this. I was listening to the father of Christina Mouser talking. He called in to the Today Show.

And he did say one thing. And I think that sometimes we need to remember that showing support and talking about support and sharing our outpour of support for these families is helpful because what he said was that his young girl, they finally turned on the news. They were all in bed together. And she did say that she felt, it felt, did feel better that everybody was mourning and feeling with them. And so I think that to talk about it is to honor the memory of these families and these people long. is for the families to know that we are all feeling their sadness.

It's not just about Kobe and Gianna. It's about all of these families. It was so tragic. And I think it's important to share our own experiences and just get it out there. And I know for me, I kept saying to myself, I wrote a lot down. I was trying to write some kind of something on my Instagram to show. I just couldn't find the words. I think there's a lot of people out there who feel the same way.

But when I did write down, I wrote down so much. It brought up so much. And one of the things I was feeling was that there was no respite. Like the tragedy just doesn't get better. It just feels terrible. And I just wanted, it was like, why is this so intense? You know, and it's not lost on me in any way that tragedy, tragedy. happens every day. It happens all over the world. And it's, there's, there's always tragedy happening.

But it's also not lost on me that legends and icons, they're not built every day. They're not made every, they don't come into our lives. I mean, maybe, maybe in a generation, you, you are, you are able to see a couple iconic, uh, beings come in to light that will stay with you forever. Kobe. Kobe was a true icon and in every sense of the word. And I have had personal experience with him many times, actually. I've been in his presence many times. And we've even had dinner together. We've played piano together. We've done, we've actually actually had, you know, I think in this moment I've been able to reflect on some real meaningful conversations, playful conversations. I was thinking about him as a man, and when that man walked into a room, you felt every bit of his iconic presence. There was, it was his, you could feel his dedication, you could, you could feel his intelligence, you could feel his talent, you could see it, you could, you could, you could feel his god-given light and i know i think a lot of people have said this and and i i just

concur that as uh someone who has been in the room that that he had that thing that you cannot i mean hopefully i put some of it into words but it's hard to put into words and no matter where he was at in his life or in what part of his life uh that he was in he carried a presence that was deeply and profoundly powerful. When you, when you, when you're in that kind of, when you see that, and then on top of that, the brilliance of his ability, when you, when you realize like, oh, he is a modern day superhero. This is, this is what a superhero is for us, right? We need them.

We need them to feel like we can do anything. We look up to them. We witnessed this the other day when the kids were looking up to Tony Hawk. You see kids, they look at their icons in a way that makes them feel that anything is possible. So when someone like that is taken from us in such a tragic way, we feel so vulnerable. and we recognize our own, that own, how precious and unpredictable life is even for our favorite superhero. It's hard for me to even, I don't feel worthy even talking about it. It's hard for me to even talk about it only because who am I, you know, I mean, I go to this place of who am I to talk about sort of the tragedy of,

Kobe's passing I mean there are I can tell you well you're a fan I'm a fan but like there's so many people in his close circle family Vanessa and the rest of the kids and then everyone even around him who are really going through it right now so it's hard for me to talk about but you by the way that's beautifully said extremely eloquent I could never have done that I don't have that in me right now I feel like again I know it's a weird thing to say but it's like I'm not I don't I don't feel right about sort of expressing myself. I don't know. It's weird. I will say this, though, it's the first time, you know, when people say that it doesn't make sense, you know, I don't understand it. You know, the first time that I've experienced that feeling, I've had people

die around me. But this was like, I still can't wrap my head around it. Like, I don't get it. It doesn't make sense to me. And it makes me question God. I don't get it. Why? What is, this do? Like, why, why did this happen? I don't understand it. It doesn't make sense. It makes me question everything. Like, there is no rhyme or reason to life. It just happens. Were there mistakes made? We don't know. But it doesn't even matter if there were or there weren't. It just happens. Because you can't, how do you make sense of something like this? there are people who are you know who have done horrendous things who will die a death in their deathbed you know and fall asleep and not go to jail or anything like that have gotten away with

many many things why are they still living why did Kobe Bryant and his amazing you know amazingly talented beautiful best friend daughter die why what what good does this do if there is a God. Right. Right. You know, that's, there's a, there's a frustration that I have and an anger of some sorts or a confusion. But I don't know. I mean, you were very eloquent in what you said. And I'm glad you did because I can't, I can't do that. I mean, you knew him personally. So it's a little bit different. You can speak on, you can speak on it a little bit better. But again, I just don't feel like it's my place to talk about, you know, I don't know. I don't, I can't, I don't know why. There's just so many other people around him and in his center who are feeling things that I can't even possibly imagine.

I can't even, I can't even fathom it, you know? Yeah. Yeah. No, I think it's also something that, you know, you do look at. And, you know, you do, look, it's your worst nightmare that you say goodbye to your loved one. And let us not forget. I mean, there, you know, the seven other people on this, on this helicopter, you know, the suffering that is, going on is something that, unfortunately, when that kind of thing happens, it's just

unimaginable. And I think because Kobe is such a big light, that it does put all of that into forefront. And meaning that these kinds of tragic situations, they're just unexplainable. And what we do now or what we can do, hopefully, is try to understand it and honor these people's lives and let all of the people that are living now who have to think about this every day and feel the loss every day. Let them know they're not alone and that there is a community and a city and a national and even a global support bubble and love love that is going out to them and hope that they find some sense of healing in this terrible time of grief. And I do want to touch a little bit on Kobe, just because I, the last time is about a

month ago that I saw him, we, you know, the thing was to see, we, you know, we were both had kids at 24. We were both young parents. So L.A. were the same age. We both had kids young. And so every time we would meet or see each other talk it was always about the fact that we had kids and so when we were younger it was like all our friends you know didn't have kids and we had kids you know um and any conversation i always had with him was always around i mean not not always you know he's funny and he's sassy and he's poignant and he was engaged and he really i mean the most curious i he always asked so many questions and was interested in the business, even when he was in his height, the basketball.

But his kids, I mean, it was everything to him. And the last time we spoke, we were talking about having teenagers and he's giving me some stories. And what he did say about Gianna, which to me was just so beautiful, was he talked about her, how fierce she was and her tenacity and her drive and how proud he was that he wouldn't, he's like, and I remember he said, it's like, I'm not worried about Gigi.

And I just thought, you know, it's important that not only that we talk about these things, but like that the girls know how much he loved him and that even people that he sat down with and had these evenings with, like all he talked about was his girls and how much he loved his girls. Like, it was everything to him, you know, and, um, you want to do, it's like you want to do something, but, but, but you can't. I, that's what, that's what I feel.

Like, I don't know Vanessa or the kids, but I just want to, like, email her. You know, you know, I just want to call, I think the whole, I think the whole, I think the whole, whole world does you know i just i just want to like help you know i want to like hey but i know that's unrealistic but i don't know i it's it's it's it's funny i haven't even looked at social media and you know the there's a tribute on tn t today that i didn't watch uh they replayed um his last game last night against utah where he scored with 60 yeah his last game yeah fucking scored 60 motherfucking points. Yeah, I remember.

I mean, I just, and I watched that. I remember watching that game. I mean, I was, I'm a rabid Laker fan. And, you know, I don't want to see it. I'm not there yet. You know, I'm not there yet. And even, again, I just feel this thing like, you know, I guess we all have our own things.

But I just, I get tongue-tied and speechless because I just don't, I don't know, I feel weird about it. I feel weird talking about it, honestly. I don't know I just do I sent you something Yeah I didn't even see it Yeah with him

It was with him and Odom No was it Odom Odom made a beautiful post LeBron made a beautiful post I mean all these I mean I will read it I will get into it But it's like every time I see it

I'm just like Oh fuck I can't do it I can't do it right now I can't do it I can't do it I need to like take time And sort of you know But again here's here's my thing One of the things

Who am I to mourn this is what I'm feeling You know what I mean Who am I? I mean, I think everybody, there's, I think a lot of people feel that way. I mean, I think too. But I guess we're talking about it. But we're talking about it and we're talking about it in a way. Yeah, okay.

Yeah, I know. Again, you, you, you know him. You have personal experience with him. You know, it's, it's easy for you to talk about it because you actually have connection. You know, I can only talk about the feeling that I have with this man sort of perishing this way. when it seemed like he was just beginning in a strange way he accomplished so much at the age of 41 but it was almost like okay that was the beginning and now you're now you're about to do like real work you know what i mean like he had such a global impact he had such a platform and was prepared to do amazing amazing yeah he was more than prepared we actually did a panel for um the the wall street journal and um together and and we had some great conversations that night uh about work and um i think the thing about Kobe is there was an there's an

ease about him and the way that he communicates a beautiful communicator um but he also you know I think off the court where he was now and I remember leaving the last time I saw him and talking with him and you know just just just in you know we just had a nice night and a moment and i remember leaving and i said to danny he's in such a great place because his family he felt so blessed and he was very so excited about his future and the animation and his production company and the things he wanted to do um and i think the thing that it makes us so sad for so many of us tragedies that we knew that he was in the next chapter of his life and that he would have achieved great things and i believe that in his name that there will be continued great things

that that the family will continue that that's what the legacy he will leave and i know i know just by the the moments that we've had together that his real legacy was for his kids and that was what he wanted to share is what he wanted to talk about you know and and look you know he he he knew his he knew his power and he was aware of it and he was getting to that age where he harnessed it and um and i saw that and he was you know i guess like you try to see the silver lining and things this makes me really emotional but you try to see the silver lining and things i try to and i i will say that He did feel the last time. He felt like he was in a beautiful place.

And that there was more calm in his life. And so he, you know. Look, we're L.A. kids. He was our L.A. hero. Yeah, I was there for his first championship. I was at the arena. He was just the man. I was there for two of them.

Even when he pissed people off. Like, it was Kobe. It was. Oh, man. The Kobe haters were rampant amongst many of my friends, too. And, oh, God. I loved him. I loved him.

That's the name of the game. I loved him. I loved his attitude. I loved his fucking intimidation. I loved his. You loved his asshole on the court. Like, come get me shit. I mean, that was, that was it.

His scowl, you know? I, there was, he was the man. I mean, he was the man. You know, it's a way, it's, he was someone to emulate 100%. He played for Los Angeles, his entire career. He never left us. He was committed to the Lakers. He has been a hero in our community.

He's done a lot of great work inside of it. He will be really missed. And his daughter was a beauty, and she loved her daddy. And she, you know, And I think that when you grow up in this town, when you grow up, if you're a basketball fan, anybody, you know, these are people that you know you, you see their kids grow up. I understand because, you know, I know when you walk down the street and you meet someone you don't know, and they're like, oh, wow, that's rider, the writer's so big. And you're like, oh, you know, but like, you know, we've seen Kobe have his children and we've seen them on the core. we've seen them at the at the uh at the uh at the uh you know at the celebrations and and so we feel

connected to them and and and i think that um he will be missed and she will be missed so i think that when when you know i think as people who have a platform ourselves as like our you know our our show to be able to just share our support and love and and to let them know that we're just thinking of them along with everybody else that um that um you know our whole our whole podcast is about family and everything that we do is talking about family and we and we have interviewed people that have had real tragedy in their life i mean our first one one, Chelsea's, you know, losing her brother. I mean, I think, you know, these tragedies, they happen.

There is a healing process that can go on. It takes a lot of time. It also takes a lot of love and it takes a lot of support. And I think that, you know, collectively just you and I acknowledging that, you know, that we're a part of this community that mourns with everybody. These tragedies happen. Again, it's like you said, all over the world. I mean, they're probably happening right now as we speak.

An icon died tragically. There's also, you know, a sort of a call to love. Love the people in your life now. Protect you. Because you don't know when it can all fucking go away. You just don't know. You know what I mean? That's it.

I mean, for me, that's what I take from this. love right now don't hold off and we're talking about siblings and sibling revelry and the things that we do you know we've had a lot of people email us about how they have not connected with their siblings in a long time they haven't talked to them in five years we hear i'm hearing it so much now through my instagram and through our our submissions uh email um what the fuck are you waiting for yeah you know what i mean this is this can happen what's going to happen what's going to happen if someone goes like this quickly are you going to have regrets you know reach out like love each other right now because who the fuck knows we don't know we think that our superstars are invincible

if there was any invincible human being on this earth it might have been cobi brian i mean when you just look at him and his shine and his he's just the most charismatic wonderful person who was destined to do even more amazing things. And then boom. It was wild too. It doesn't make sense. So love right now. Do it now.

Don't wait. Fucking go. You know? These are all people that were putting their children before anything. They were people who their children had passions. They wanted to be there for them. They wanted to support them. And they loved and were passionate about the game.

And they supported. at each other. And I think there's, I think that's, there's something to, in that, which is that, you know, when you, when you look at Kobe, you know, Kobe, everything was about getting home to make sure he could do school drop off or getting home to be with his kids. You know, this was his, this was something he held in, in, in, as a priority. And, um, and I just look at this as the great lesson of everything we do in life. We need to put in the time and the focus and the dedication like someone like Kobe in everything that he did, whether it was his work, whether it was his children and living in that moment. He talked about greatness once and I was listening to this

and what he said is he said, I think greatness is about how you affect the person sitting next to you. And I loved that because it took it out of how people see him, which is that, you know, he affects so many people. But in his mind, it was about who's sitting to his left or who's sitting to his right and how does he impact that person's life. How can you impact that person's life? And I think that if we're going to honor him in any way, it's that we all know we are capable of that kind of greatness. And I just wish he had more time to share his, his, you know, his abilities with us. But we love him. Love Kobe.

And I think that, you know, he will live on. He has to. It's just his way. It's just who he is. He will, I know he's going to send messages. left, right, and center. And I think that staple center is going to feel it all the time. And his children will feel it even more.

And I know Vanessa is a strong, strong woman. And anyway, sending love to all the families. Love you, Kobe B. I just worry about it. Well, no, you're with everybody else. I mean, I'm sorry, but look, I mean, I know what you're feeling right now. But I think, well, I know, but, but, but, but, but who, who, who, who, it's, it's not about, it's not about who am I. It's not about, it's not about who am I. It's about the impact that tragedy, no matter who. And in this particular situation, it is something that has completely paralyzed so many people for, for real reason. And, and, and, and I think that it, you know, we don't, again, it's not. It's not. lost on us that tragedy happens every day and it's terrible but it but but let the

legends like I was saying like we we look up to people for a reason and there are certain people who come into this earth that are we we feel and we know they're here for a reason and we can't put our finger on it sometimes but then when they're taken away like this it's shocking and it's not it's not it's not not about like who am i yeah you're impacted by this like everyone else i mean we walked around the day that coby passed away and it was like everybody that you looked at i i sat i sat and i was i was i went to go to the movies we had made had tickets to the movie the night before danny's like we should get out of the house let's just get out of the house i was a mess i mean for so many

reasons, right? And I went to the movies and I sat and I just happened to walk in and like Demi Lovato is the Grammys night. It's just like, how does life go on? How do we go on when something like this happens? But I'm sitting there and I just started to like cry watching this Demi just sing a beautiful song. And I looked and this woman was sitting next to me and she worked at the movie theater and we're just staring at it. We're both crying our eyes out. And she just went, well, I needed that today. And I said, me too. And we connected because there is a, a, there was, it affected everybody.

It doesn't matter if you knew him. It doesn't matter. If you didn't know him, it was, it hit a core for so many people. And I think it's important to talk about these things. Yeah, no, I, I understand. Like, it's love is everything. I understand. But my thing is why, who, why do people want?

people care what i think that's where i'm at like we're doing this podcast and i love i look cobi brian was a was a hero of mine i'm and i can't say an idol because i was a little older but he was he was he just was the man who cares what i have to think that that that's where i'm out when we sat courtside that's why it's hard for me do you remember when we sat court side oh yeah and we went yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i remember yeah yeah yeah i remember yeah what did that feel like to see him play oh my god i mean i was fortunate enough to sit in seats on the on the court a few times there was the time i sat next to him on the bench because there was a bench he sat in a specific seat every time then he came off the floor and it was at the end of

the bench towards you know where the where everyone is and i was sitting right next to him so when they had huddles i would listen in and i mean it was fucking genius he was a genius i mean there was it was a man it was a man what did you love about his scowl I think because there were

he you know if you look at some of the ballers today you look at LeBron you know you look at you look at you know

Steph, Curry, and they are beloved sort of by everybody. They're LeBron haters, you know, here and there. But for the most part, everyone loves LeBron. You know, everyone loves Steph. We're in a love fest now in the NBA, you know. Everyone loves Kauai. I mean, the guy's awesome. But Kobe was not loved by everyone.

Kobe was hated probably by more people than he was loved as far as on the basketball court and I loved that I loved that people didn't like him and I loved why they didn't like him The reason that people didn't love him is why I loved him because he gave the middle finger to everyone else

he was like fuck off basically I don't care that you don't love me here's how I play ball and that's really all the matters You know what I mean? I'm not worried about sort of my image with you, people, with the fans, you know? I care about my image in the community. And I care about who I am as a basketball player on the court.

And I'm a motherfucker on the court. I am ruthless. I will rip your throat out. I don't give a shit. That's the Jordan. That's the Jordan-esque vibe. And he had that Jordan thing, you know, where he was just a killer. you know and i loved that i loved how he sort of dealt with adversity you know i probably something that

you know i wish that i had in myself where it's like you can hate me that doesn't affect me it actually fuels me keep hating you know keep hating me that's gas on the fire you know and that's what that scowl was it was like he he sort of put his gums up you know he put his lip up and his gums he was just like like, you know, it just feels good to flip you the middle finger, you know, with a game-winning shot or a jumper, an impossible jumper, that's what I loved about Kobe. By the way, that happened in the beginning. That wasn't a learned fire. That fire has to happen for the beginning.

I remember when he was a rookie, you know, he didn't even start that much. But he, I forget the game, but he had a game where he just shit the bed, just hoisted up shots, fucking missing shots. He didn't give a shit. The next game, he's right there battling again, doing it. He didn't care. It wasn't, he didn't care what people were saying. He knew his greatness.

He believed in his greatness so much so. That throw him up, fail, fail, fail. It doesn't matter. You know, just wait, just wait, you know, boo all you want, you know, call me whatever you want. But just give it a minute and then you'll, you know, you'll eat your words. But I don't need to say it. I'm just going to, you can quietly eat your words while I become the greatest basketball player ever to walk the planet, you know? Yeah.

I like that. I think too, you know, he then, human and, and, you know, young, went through moments that he even said, you know, could have made better decisions. But where he was at now was a place that I think a lot of us really looked forward to because there was. was a like people would say to him all the time like aren't you going to miss basketball like you're going to want to you're going to retire you're going to come back and in his mind it was like I'm no I'm going to move on my life will I'm going to do other things and and the fierce competitor in him not only knew that about himself but when that when that day came that that that is what that's who he was his life changed directions always always basketball i mean it's his love but i mean

there's so he had so many interests and uh you know you hear a lot of stories about you know people talking about him now and honoring him about his curiosity and he he really was i mean you know any any any any moment i had with kobe was always filled with curiosity and engagement very engaged asking more questions than answering them almost to the point where sometimes you'd be put off taken out off guard because it was like oh he's how is he so interested in my boring life like your life is way more exciting than mine um you know and and your ability i mean god you know but he he he just was a mind expander um And anyway, I just, you know, they say in grief that you should talk about the people.

And they say that the best healing is to always, if you want to talk about people like they're still here, if you need to talk about them, that you just do it. And that, that, and you always keep them alive. And I think that not only should we keep talking about Kobe, should we keep honoring him and his family and Gianna and the families that lost their lives, but that we understand that that is going to be a part of all of our, everybody's healing process. You know, we need to, you keep these people alive because they're a lot, they are alive inside of us. And same with all of those, all of the kids that are hurting and, and scared. You know, you just, we're always, as a parent too, you do think about these things, you know, all you want as a parent when you go is to know that your kids are okay. so to the kids you know

all your parents want is to for you to know that you're in there that you're there and that and that even if you're not there

in the tangible form that you are living in them every day and that you're there and I think that and that they feel that love they don't feel they don't feel abandoned

and I think that if there's anything you know that you could say it to the kids and is that that that would make your parents happy so I guess

you know we we experience these tragedies we live through them and one day they become our own tragedy because we all meet the same, we all meet the same path. We all, we all die. And some people just unfortunately

sooner than others, but that we live fully and keeping the people that impact us always around us. Am I talking too much? Am I, am I being, am I making sense?

We're good. it's good it's good it's good it's good all right well i love you i love you and i know everybody out there you know we love you and um coby i love you r i p 24 8 24 hours a day eight that's how he lived that was his work ethic i i i pray and i visualize you know All of those families protecting each other and them protecting their families now. And now those families have the most powerful angels. And, you know, may we just pray and send love. I'm Jorge Ramos.

And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians, artists and activists, to bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. The moment is a space for the conversations we've been having as father and daughter for years. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?

Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story. Does anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Kristen, Krista has been sitting on death row. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now.

Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast.