Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - A Raising Helen Reunion with Abigail & Spencer Breslin

Episode Date: June 9, 2025

Kate reconnects with ‘Raising Helen’ co-stars and real-life siblings Abigail and Spencer Breslin.  Once upon a time, they played her kids in the 2004 rom-com…and now they have ...countless movies and award accolades collectively. Hear all about their competitive past, the tragedies they overcame, the habits they had to break, and the big things this brother and sister duo have ahead!bSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:25 Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling reverie. No, no.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Sibling rivalry. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling Reveory. That's good. Yeah, I worked with abs. That's what I call it because I don't have any abs. On Scream Queens.
Starting point is 00:03:22 That was quite the set. That's right. Quite the set. Yeah. Yeah. I was the old man on that set. You were with Jamie Lee. Jamie Lee, but it was a bunch of youngans and me and Jamie Lee. You know, I tried to be cool and young and hip and it didn't work. So I just stayed in my place in North, in New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Didn't integrate very well. No. Anyway, let's bring them in there. They've been waiting in the waiting. Okay. Hi, guys. You doing. How are you guys? We're doing good.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Well, let's just jump right in. Okay. So where were you guys born? New York, yeah. Like New York City? Yeah. And NYU Hospital, yeah. I was Beth Israel.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Yeah. You were. But I always think about it because in friends, like when Phoebe gives birth and friends, that like kind of roundish building, that's where I was born in. Yeah. So I feel very happy about that. My mom really went to all the different hospitals. for all three of us, I feel like.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Oh, as I said, there's another sibling. Yes, yes. Wait, what's your other sibling's name? Ryan. How old is Ryan? He just turned 40. Just turned 40 like two days ago. So, yeah, what's the order here?
Starting point is 00:04:41 Ryan, I'm in the middle. Spatby's the youngest. Baby. Yeah. Oh, my God. And she was a little baby when we worked together. She was, you were so cute. And I'm 29.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Oh, 29. almost 49 Oh my God Yeah but Oliver When we worked together I was like 19 I know That's fucking crazy
Starting point is 00:05:05 Oh my god That was 10 years ago Was that 10 years ago That's even weird Queens 10 years ago Yeah I can't even That's insane
Starting point is 00:05:15 And raising Helen was 22 years ago 22 years ago Pretty nuts What was it like What was it like What was it like Growing up in the city
Starting point is 00:05:25 I mean, were you allowed the freedom to roam and explore, or was it strict? I mean, I don't know. I guess about the, I don't know. It was just, what do you think? We have like a kind of like a block radius of where we could. Yeah, I mean, when I turned like 13, 14, I started going off on my own doing stuff and, you know, hanging out with friends and playing in bands and stuff like that but before that you know we were we weren't like just like wandering around the city like totally on a company to me yeah that didn't happen until i was like
Starting point is 00:06:05 16 17 when i started doing that but yeah we but what i liked about growing up in new york i was younger because i'm a boy so i got things earlier it's not safe for the women for exactly yeah exactly i was able to fend for myself yeah yeah i i was more so uh but we were also Because we were acting, we were traveling so much. So we weren't really in New York for massive amounts of time. Yeah. On the road, a fair amount. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Like a lot in LA, yeah. Spencer, weren't you already working like when you were little doing, didn't you start? I started doing like commercials and stuff when I was three. Yeah. I started off my first. first one was a, my first two were like a life cereal commercial and a McDonald's commercial with Charles Barkley. And then, yeah, then it just kind of went from there. Oh, it was cool. I thought it was Burger King for some reason. I was trying to go out the
Starting point is 00:07:08 night. It was the Mickey D.D.'s commercial. Yeah. So wait, so this was obviously, I mean, you're three years old, so you're not making many life choices. Did your parents sort of say, look, we're going to get you guys into commercials and put you into that? So there, it, the, the origin story or whatever was I always laugh at this now because it seems like so weird now as an adult
Starting point is 00:07:33 but when I was like in that eight when I was like three four there was just like indoor playground in Manhattan that I used to go to and it's funny now they used to send like talent scouts out to like the playgrounds to be like
Starting point is 00:07:47 oh cute kid like really weird kind of like oh that kid's really adorable Or is a little bit strange. Like you just like somebody goes up to like the kid Karen and it's like, I think your child is beautiful. That's so true.
Starting point is 00:08:04 You can't do that now. Yeah. You're pretty hot. Why don't you come with me? Hot kid. No. So it's, uh, yeah. So then I started doing commercials.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Just I, I had a good time doing them, I guess. And then kind of kind of, yeah, where I was discovered. yeah um no uh yeah so right but ryan ryan didn't have didn't have what it took huh just zero interest zero interest he doesn't want to be in front of the camera i think he did do like a cameo in raising helen i think him and his buddies oh yeah when we're like a statue of liberty there was supposed to play like i think like cd kids in a playground or something like that like the like the bad element or whatever my god because gary i don't even remember that well gary like Anyone you showed up to set, Gary, would just be like,
Starting point is 00:08:55 oh, do you want to do a part in the movie? Oh, my God, remember when he, I'll never forget when you were ordering the drink when he was just yelling out 500 million different drink orders. Like, get it from a posy. Oh, me wallbanger. Singapore sling. Oh, that was my favorite.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Tell me me one of Singapore sling. I always, because I did a movie with Gary also after, we both did Princess Diaries too. Yeah. after raising Helen and then I did New Year's Eve with Harry and I'll never forget he called my mom
Starting point is 00:09:30 before because in New Year's Eve I was like 14 years old and it's like me and this other boy that was in the movie we have a kiss you know and he said to my mom like I don't want it to be lewd he was the cutest thing I ever heard he was the best
Starting point is 00:09:54 he was the best that was such a fun movie because we did a lot in L.A. and we did a lot in New York and I remember Kate, you like were so cool because when we wrapped I was very sick that day. Yeah, she was barfing, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Oh. That's lovely. Thank you. I was speaking everywhere. But you took Spencer to F.A.O. Schwartz. And I remember him being like, I didn't care that I was sick because I wasn't doing a good job in the film. That was six years old. I care because I was like, damn. Oh. Spencer's going to F.A.O. Schwartz with Kate. Wait, Kate, you took Spencer to F.A.O. Schwartz? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was great. Wait, just the two of you? Well, like it was, well, who else was with us? No, it was me. I think my mom was there and there was someone. else who was there and like my assistant or whoever yeah i think so it's just a couple of us i remember when abby was all sick and gary came up to like the room it was like have you tried like saltine
Starting point is 00:10:57 crackers oh Abigail i'll take you to effish once again we can we can go down now but there's a american girl doll store exactly um i remember this is such a great there's this scene where I'm teaching her how to, or she's just trying to tie her shoes. And I come into the room and she's just like, you know, crying because the last time she was learning how to tie her shoes was with her mom. And I, oh my God, I could not get through this scene. Abigail could make herself cry. I mean, she is six years old. She's Wani's age. Crazy. And she, you are accessing something that was so, like, pure and incredible. And everybody was just like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:11:50 I mean, it was just heart-wrenching. I'll never forget it. And you're sitting in that little... Let me ask you a question, actually. This is interesting. Because that's six years, I don't know. I'm sure you have recollection of it. But how are you able to do that?
Starting point is 00:12:06 Meaning even you and then moving into sort of other children, watching some of these kids being able to access emotion and make it so real, you know, do you remember how you did that, where you went at six to be able to do that, or were you just so in the moment of what the scene was? No, I think there's something wrong with me. I try to work through this in therapy from time to time. I don't really know why. I, no, I think, like, uh,
Starting point is 00:12:42 I don't really know. I see it as a lot of like a mechanical thing. I can make myself cry very easily. It's really great like in terms of in my real life, like I can manipulate my husband really well. I would cry to my dad about getting things. No, I'm kidding, but I'm not. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:10 I don't know. I think I was always just. It's my party trick. I can cry very easily. Oh, and break your heart. Now, you're not just crying. It was just like, it was like heartbreaking. No, the older I got, the older I got, the more I, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:24 would actually think about it. But my mom could just say something to me like, you need to apologize to your brother. And I would probably. I didn't want to say, sorry. Yeah, fair enough. Yeah. Do that. It's like the hardest thing for me in the world to do.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I feel like it's like anytime I need to do any type of scene where I'm, crying. I need like an hour to like figure out like a game plan how to do it. It is like so difficult. Yeah. I'm pretty cool that you can do it. I'm kind of with you. I mean, uh, I, for me, it's like right before, you know, he's getting ready. They're going to roll camera. And I'm like, I'm like, oh, I'm fucking, I'm so money right now. Like, like, the Emmys are going to be stacked up on my shelf. And then action. I'm like, it's gone. Yeah. And there it goes. It's like when you have a sneeze and you can't get it out quite a way.
Starting point is 00:14:18 So it's like, and then it's just gone forever. Right. And then half the way through the scene, I'm like, God damn it, you fucked. You fucking had it. Stupid, stupid, stupid. You really cry very well as well. It really is. Oh, he's been an alarm.
Starting point is 00:14:32 I think men have a harder time accessing emotion than women do. Like we are sort of almost like hardwired to. be more connected to our emotional you know I wonder from an evolutionary standpoint like what that is you know what I mean from a primal place
Starting point is 00:14:51 there's a book called a female brain and it's really fascinating because it talks about that Ryan's a lot older than you guys then yeah seven years old I'm I'm turning 33 in a few days and Ryan is yeah so he's about exactly seven years older than me
Starting point is 00:15:08 he's 11 years old older than Abbey, yeah. And how was that dynamic sort of growing up as far as the sibling relationships went, you know, because he was sort of gone, you know, if he's seven years older. Well, he's seven years older, right? No, he, I mean, it was probably a different dynamic because we weren't so close in age. Yeah. I don't like Ryan and I became a lot closer as buddies like when I was towards the end of high school for me when he was yeah so yeah we became like a lot better pals then just because you don't like if someone's you know 17 and 10 that's such a huge yeah gap but you know when it's you know 20 and 27 it's kind of not that big a deal right right yeah Ryan and I became really close around the same time like when I was.
Starting point is 00:16:05 around 17, 18, we became a lot closer. But Spencer and I were, because we're only four years apart. So we grew up. But the difference is like I didn't really get into any fights or, you know, like sibling issues with Ryan because he was in college and was in and out. And Spencer and I would more. And also would be pretty weird for like a college kid to be like picking fights with like a seven-year-old. Yeah, that would be pretty strange. But it sounds like all of y'all got closer as you went, as you got older.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Yeah, probably, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I would say that. We're all, we're all pretty tight-knit. Did you guys grow up very close together? Yeah. Yeah, we were all close. I mean, like physically. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:21:47 Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, you guys, if you started so young, was Raising Helen, like, the first time you guys worked together? Yeah. And then, and then that was still, like, kind of in the beginning, right? I mean, that was my second movie. Right. And that, I, yeah, I'd already been doing it, I guess, for, I don't know, I've been doing it for a while, I guess, at that point.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Yeah, because we did the kid? Huh? When you were seven? Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, so I guess not that long, I guess. Yeah, I mean, it was 10 years old. So, yeah. Those are a long three years. Yeah. Exactly. Right. No, yeah. But yeah, that was the first time we'd work together at all. Yeah. What did that, what did they feel like? Like, I mean, I'm trying to think if we've interviewed, like, child actors. But I, you know, notoriously. Like sibling, like sibling child acting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's a difficult, it's difficult anyway. But then you. add like your childhood and then you add that you guys are growing up together you guys are
Starting point is 00:23:06 going out for different jobs some people are maybe one is working more than the other like did it create a challenging dynamic for you guys I don't think so I don't think so it was really hard when he didn't get little miss sunshine and I got it that was very good moment for us I think it probably uh I think the reason that there wasn't oh like a weird uh dynamic or like any type of competitive dynamic was like we're totally different like i'm i'm a guy she's like we were never like kind of going out for similar things so there was never this like competitive thing as much as do oh like cool you're doing this you're doing that great we kind of had our own thing like yeah we each had our own thing or whatever if that makes it
Starting point is 00:23:53 did you like being on set i mean was it something you guys loved was it you know as a child actor obviously there's challenges it's an adult world you get thrown into you know you can get fucked up you know yeah how did you guys deal with all that i i like being on set i i i always enjoyed it i never had like i i know a lot of people like who maybe didn't you know you hear about people like oh i grew up a child actor and i hated it and i resent it um and that's that's like their own experience for me i've i've always enjoyed it and i've never felt like oh like I missed out on so much from being on set or this or that
Starting point is 00:24:33 like I enjoyed being on set I think a lot of that too comes from like you know the fact that we weren't ever we had options like if we didn't want to do it our parents weren't going to be like oh yeah we weren't like supporting the family so it wasn't like that immense amount of pressure
Starting point is 00:24:52 but I mean we always I always at least had a lot of fun on set I don't think it was until I was like 12 or 13 when I did this one movie where I really started liking acting um in term instead of just loving being on set
Starting point is 00:25:10 if that makes sense. Yeah. Well I just remember also Spencer Spencer was a very like as a kid you know he knew what he wanted. He was like a little man. He had very very like specific opinions and oh god god you were so you guys were so cute
Starting point is 00:25:36 it's like it's so this is so fun for me because I like really knew you as kids yeah you know babies and and your nature both of you your family your whole family is so sweet and then we had Hayden
Starting point is 00:25:51 I love her yeah you also worked with on Nashville on Nashville yeah So, and she was just, like, ready to be an adult. I mean, it was like, you had the teenage girl and then you had these, like, two, that was like ready to be an adult, ready to go, ready to party. And then you had these, like, adore, I got so lucky with all three of you guys. Was that, was that Owen Wilson movie?
Starting point is 00:26:20 No, no. Raising Helen was, who was in that? Joan Cusack. Right. John Corbett. John Corbett. That was the guy. Paris Hilton did a little part.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Yeah, Paris Hilton. I'll remember that at the at the restaurant. Yeah. But did you feel like you had a normal childhood? Because, I mean, from my point of view, it wasn't that normal. Probably not. I mean, normal. I think as normal as that could have.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Yeah. What's normal? Did you go to actual school or were you homeschooled? we were homeschooled yeah all three of you Ryan too Ryan to Ryan to Ryan too yeah um if homeschooling predates any like involvement in showbiz or anything like that um yeah that was more so because my dad had just started up his business yeah and yeah they were doing their own thing yeah um I mean I know for me like when I was around 14 I did get into a weird thing of like getting really obsessed with booking roles all the time
Starting point is 00:27:31 and that stem from one article that I read online when I was 13 years old and I had done a play in New York on Broadway, The Miracle Worker. And when the show closed, somebody, I mean, who writes about a 13-year-old child that they're like, Abigail Breslin's star power is waning. after the closing. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:27:56 And I'm sure for reading that online and not knowing at 13 even what the word waning meant and Googling and being like, oh, God, I have to book roles like right now or else I'm completely. And my parents had noticed that I was getting very, you know, stressed about bugging things. So they made me take about a year and a half to two years off to just be with my friends. Oh. And at first I was like, I hate you.
Starting point is 00:28:23 you're the worst. I think it was very important that I, you know, took that time to, it's so sad that my dad said it to me. It was like, how can you play a teenager if you don't know what it's like? Yeah. Wow. I'm grateful for that. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:44 That's, that's amazing, honestly, that your mom saw that and did that, you know? Yeah. I mean, really. it's so easy to say no just keep going keep chugging it out like yeah but it's like no no no you need to be a fucking kid you know a little bit yeah yeah so i think that's why but i don't i don't really know anybody who's had a normal childhood i don't think anyone in the world has that yeah i don't know i'm sure normal even is these days i always i always say this a lot of people well i mean i'm in the in the in the in the when you're talking i mean in the right going to school like having the structure of what most
Starting point is 00:29:23 kids are doing on a daily basis like you wake up you eat you go to school you have your after school activities you know their experience right you play the clarinet I mean I know I know kids though who are like in like really serious like athletics throughout school and high school and I feel like their life was more crazy than yeah that mine wasn't like much more regimented and all about work for and for them that could be baseball or football or swimming or whatever so i think it's all you know yeah it's all it's all it's all relative yeah except that you're working mostly with adults correct yeah so you're not in an environment where you're actually socializing with people your own age and peers which is a really that's why you know when when people look at
Starting point is 00:30:16 the history of child actors it's like that peer development is really really important. So when you don't have it, I think God, you guys had each other in your, you know, homeschooling and together had, there was three of you. But, you know, did you, did she put, did, did your parents put you in any, like, after school activities and stuff like that? Like, did you do? Like, we had, uh, swimming. We had gym class for, uh, like, the, like, we were part of like a, like a homeschooling group, I guess in New York. So there was, we're in a cult. So that's what it was. We weren't a call it.
Starting point is 00:30:57 But no, and like you'd get together and do gym classes. I honestly think living in New York helped the social education aspect because there, I, we weren't around like other kids as much in the business. So it wasn't like going to the playground being like, oh, who are you repped by? Oh, it was kind of like, no one really cared. It was, I had my friends from Little League. She had her friends from swim class. and it was kind of very non.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Like when we weren't working on a movie, it was very much like a non-showbiz kind of house. But what was the recognition factor like, though? You know, were you guys recognized as kids? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. With that where people like would come up and literally physically pick me up. What? And my mom would be like, please put down my child. Like, you don't grab my child.
Starting point is 00:31:50 and they'd be like, I love me. And, like, would cry about, like, Little Miss Sunshine changed my life. And it's when you're, you know, nine years old, that's in a very overwhelming. Yeah. I had someone, I had someone ask me for an autograph while I was standing, like, at a urinal at Outback Steakhouse.
Starting point is 00:32:09 And I was like, can you wait until my hand for me, perhaps? You just pee on them. Like, there you go. I was like, okay, hang on, how do you fill that? What about the tea? teenagers. Did it, did you, were you ever rebellious? I was, I was quite, yeah. Tell us, Spencer. Oh, yeah. Well, I heard you're a year and a half sober. I am a year and a half sober. I am, I'm a year and a half sober. Yeah, I, I, I guess I, I liked alcohol. Uh, and maybe I liked it a little bit too much. Uh, and, uh, yeah. So I, you know, but I've, I've, I've had my upset. and downs, I guess, with that.
Starting point is 00:32:54 I don't know, related to show business or not, I think it's just because I like drinking. So, yeah. But if you're okay talking about it, what was the moment where you're like, you know what? I like this too much. You know what I'm saying? Like, I need to get rid of this in my life entirely. And I'm semi, it's semi relatable because I'm on a bit of a sober kick. because for sure
Starting point is 00:33:20 Kate knows like I just felt like I was just drinking too much alcohol you know what I mean I was still living my life and functioning and being a dad
Starting point is 00:33:29 and husband and working and all that but it was just taking its toll and I couldn't go have a martini I'd have like 10 that's the whole thing
Starting point is 00:33:39 I think for me it's kind of like the old saying or whatever one's too many 10 isn't enough I just I kind of I lost all my motivation.
Starting point is 00:33:51 I was pretty much like waking up to go out and drink with people all day. And, you know, I think a lot of my friends, like a lot of the people that I liked being around kind of stopped liking being around me because I was kind of like just a drunk. And there was no kind of like pumping the brakes ever. It was kind of just 100% go, go. go and you got in this cycle of uh yeah just kind of like a really uh nasty cycle and i was like you know i really need to stop this because this is you know getting dangerous and i'm not really living a life so what was them what's been the most surprising part of your sobriety so far
Starting point is 00:34:40 i was really afraid of uh how am i okay how am i going to be social with people if I'm not if I'm not drinking or doing something else am I going to you know get along with people
Starting point is 00:34:57 how am I going to talk to people everyone's going to realize I suck or I'm not funny or this and that and I might I'm still not funny for sure but that's true
Starting point is 00:35:08 but wait were you funny though you were funny though you were funny and then you stop drinking and now you're not funny anyway
Starting point is 00:35:14 yeah it's you know it's just But it didn't work out that way And actually my life's gotten a lot better I've gotten a lot healthier I don't need to wake up and think like Oh, I really hope I wasn't a dick to someone last night
Starting point is 00:35:30 Or you know, was I rude to someone Or did I say something nasty or you know It's um You know and and I like actually show up to stuff Like they show up to Like I'm not just like blowing stuff off Or forgetting to do stuff
Starting point is 00:35:47 The energy, I'm sure your energy level are like through the roof compared to. Yeah, it's like, I'm like, I wake up like at 7.30 in the morning. I still like do my thing. It's so weird. So they just like to like 2 o'clock and wake up hot over and miserable and it would take three, four hours to just get in a groove. It's so, it's been so strange to see him in this way. Yeah. Because, you know, everybody has their issues, whatever.
Starting point is 00:36:17 He's my big brother, and I've been so, like, proud of him, not to be cheesy, but I have been so proud of him because it's really like, I think whenever somebody goes through something like that, it's like, oh, I have, like, my brother back, like, to being the person normally, you know, know him to be. And he's just been, like, such a badass, like, in his journey with it. And we're very proud of him. Oh, I love hearing this so much. Spencer, do you feel like your mental clarity is like completely different? Uh, yeah, for sure. For sure. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season.
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Starting point is 00:37:57 I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers. were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope.
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Starting point is 00:39:00 I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin, so, like, it's not, like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my... reality nine years ago.
Starting point is 00:39:15 I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called White House. Weisscrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present. IVF disrupted, the kind body story. a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care. Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup.
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Starting point is 00:40:59 The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike. This is in regards to the death of a Colleen slimmer. She started going off on me when I hit her. I just hit her, I'm hit her, and hit her, and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row.
Starting point is 00:41:29 The state has asked for an execution date for Krista. We let people languish in prison for decades, raising questions about who we consider fundamentally unrestorable. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:42:07 We were talking to this doctor and. who's like a psychiatrist and he's on Instagram while he's a very popular psychiatrist and but he was saying like drinking just alcohol is just absolutely awful for the brain like it just when you actually see what it does to the your brain function it makes people just be like oh I'm not going to do that and and and do that anymore and the first thing that people really realize when they stopped drinking in those first, like, you know, weeks is like, it literally, it's almost like their whole brain works differently.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Yeah, I mean, I was towards the end of my drinking, I was, I was drinking about like two bottles of vodka a day. Oh, my God. You were drinking, drinking. When you cut that out, there's going to be like a boost in mental fitness just because you're basically in a coma when you're drinking that much. And I, uh, but yeah, like the first couple of months, I mean, I'd say even the first like six months to a year. Uh, it's definitely tricky figuring out how to fall asleep. That was a big thing
Starting point is 00:43:20 because and then realizing what sleep actually is as opposed to passing out. Uh, and, uh, and, uh, yeah, and then like a roller coaster of emotions, obviously. I'm sure. Like feeling stuff all the time because you've been, you know, whatever. Do you think that some of this started to get worse after you lost your father? Because I know, and I'm so sorry to hear that, you know. Oh, thank you. Yeah. I've thought about that.
Starting point is 00:43:49 And I was actually talking with, in a meeting I go to for my sobriety. I was talking about this with someone because you kind of, you'll think like, oh, I wonder if this was the reason I drank more. What was the tipping point? this and that. And I would go crazy trying to figure it out. And then I realized like, okay, I think what it is is like I'm an alcoholic and just what it is. And I will, you know, I can say, oh, my dad died. I'm going to get drunk. And I did. I could say, oh, I booked a movie. I'm going to go celebrate and get drunk. Oh, I got fired from this job. I'm going to get drunk. Oh, I got fired from this job. I'm going to get drunk. I'm going to be cheesy too. I'm really proud of you. but Abigail like dealing with that and then we'll move on but like I'm just curious as a sister how do you approach that you know I mean do you say you need to get your shit together
Starting point is 00:44:45 you're a fucking alcoholic or you have to tread lightly do you have to tread lightly well may I say yeah go do you say whatever you want I do remember at one point when he had come to visit me at one point on a set of a film that I was doing and saying
Starting point is 00:45:01 to my mom, like, I knew he was drunk when he came to visit me on the set. And I was like, I'm concerned because it's lunchtime on set, which was like, you know, whatever time it was, 2 p.m. And I said, and it's just, I, you know, it was not so much that he was hard to be around. It was more so that I was worried for him. And then he was the one though who came and said that you know I got a I got to sober up and I got to get control of this and um I felt an immense amount of relief in that moment of like I remember I was with my best friend Taylor and I started crying and I said oh my gosh he's going to you know be healthy because um yeah I mean it's it's hard but I've also known so many people who have addiction
Starting point is 00:45:57 and it's not always you know people like to make it this really dark super scary thing and it there were different levels to it but i think him taking accountability and doing what he needed to do to feel better has been awesome for him and awesome for everybody that knows and loves him because he's he's doing so well now and we're super happy not that he was it wasn't like he was you know right cars into you know telephone pulls or anything but you know it's pretty high functioning but not uh not really functioning at all. It was all kind of a house of cards. Yeah, of course. And there's probably so many
Starting point is 00:46:34 bullets dodged during, you know what I mean, like a billion of them. It could have been this. It could have been that. You could be in jail. You could have fucking, you could have killed someone in a car. I mean, like all that shit. 100%. 100%. Very, very lucky and very grateful that my life is so good right now. That's awesome, buddy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:55 And Abigail, you got married. You're a married. My married lady now. Do you have kids yet or no? I have my two fur babies, well, one that has fur and then my other cat, Yoda, who's in the other room sulking, he's a hairless cat. But, you know, that's on the horizon. I have my mother-in-law and my own mother, you know, asking me every day when I'm going to. Of course. Of course.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Every mom wants, they're all ready. They're like ready to get, just get their hands on a baby. Oh, yeah. No, but I'm starting, I've just been starting. to get that because there were a couple of years where I was like maybe I'm just not the type of person who's going to have kids you know what I mean and only in the past year or so I've been like like my friend had a baby and I'm like oh god I and this sounds but like I want to eat you I can't I you know when babies are so cute you want to love them in a weird one 100%
Starting point is 00:47:54 you want to like consume them like bite their faces yeah I'm a bad about to go, like, swallow a baby hole in an hour and a half. I'm just going to get my hands on that baby. Oh. The little, like, ring. I know. And I'm like, oh, I want to kill you. So I've been definitely starting to get that.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Yeah. What have you been working on recently? I did this movie with my friend Tyler Shields called Chapter 51. That's really cool. It's like, was filmed on. IMAX, it's very, very, very cool. Exciting. And I play an actress in it. So that's really out of my wheelhouse. You couldn't relate to it at all.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Yeah. And then I've been working on my album and does music and Yes. When did you guys get into music? I mean, we grew up in a house that appreciated music a lot. So, I mean, I started playing in like dumb bands and stuff like that when I was like 13 um and then you know playing around the city and then you know kind of just like little little punk bands don't get mad at me but he was in a band when he was like 14 called not quite dead yet
Starting point is 00:49:16 was it metal uh we were yeah we were we were kind of like I think the band had an identity crisis what kind of music we were playing because we'd play uh you know one day you know we're a bunch of 13 14 year old boys so one day someone be like oh let's play system of a down oh let's do this like a lot of covers and then a couple of original songs that um i hope i've improved somewhat as a lyricist and writer and all that since then but maybe not i mean it's kind of an amazing band i don't know system of a down is a great start. Oh, no, system of a down straight. I'm talking about an hour. You're on
Starting point is 00:49:58 an upward trajectory. The system of a down was great. I'm talking about our stuff we wrote kind of sucked a lot. All the covers we played were we had great taste in music just like our execution for our own stuff was not the best. But I went to his room
Starting point is 00:50:14 and he would be on garage band and he'd be like Abby, I need you to like bang your hair brush against the like the ladder for the bunk bed. And I was like, wow, I am a musician. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:29 You're like, I made it. I did it. Like, I am a recording artist. Yeah. Yeah, but not quite dead yet is a fucking genius for 13-year-olds. I mean, exactly, because we're literally not quite dead yet. It's a genius name. We're really tough.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Oh, my God. When are you planning on, I mean, how far along are you with your album? It's basically done. I'm just, I have some music on Spotify right now, but I don't go under my name. I go under my artist's name, which is sophomore. And it's like very, you know, singer, songwriter, pop. It's good. It's good stuff.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Thank you. It's fun. It's fun. And you do such great music. Thanks. Amazing. Yeah. I'm just, I love hearing that you guys are doing that.
Starting point is 00:51:24 I'm going to get off and listen immediately. I'm mad that I didn't. But I... I'm not too. Yeah. I know. I was like, I usually do my research. I don't know about it.
Starting point is 00:51:40 But... I'm mad you have not... I'm mad you don't like celebrate the entire and not quite dead yet cattle. Yes. I should know all of it. I can't think you want a band. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Yeah. You need to bring back that band. Go find your old buddies and make it happen. We have a residency at the sphere coming. Okay, so guys, we always end our podcast with a two-part question. The first part is, you know, what is it about your sibling that you wish you had more of, something that you would love to be able to emulate? And then what is the one thing about your sibling or one thing about your sibling
Starting point is 00:52:21 that you wish you could alleviate, that you could, you know, kind of remove from them so that they could have a better life experience? I would say I wish I had Spencer's resilience. He's a very resilient person and he really shows up all the time and has a really strong sense of like responsibility that I really admire. and the one thing I wish I could take away from him is I just and I think this is true for like everybody
Starting point is 00:52:59 but I wish that he like saw what everybody else season had more yeah I get that a lot yeah I know right I was gonna just like do like a snarky joke like oh I wish I could cry on cue I know Abby's
Starting point is 00:53:15 Abby's a great great at bringing people together and like just like always like hosting like good parties or like always like just figuring out the right combination of people to have around I mean I have great friends too but but like she's very good at just like getting cool groups of people together yeah really that's very high common and then I would say maybe I wish she could be on time to dinner a bit before we're all going on to dinner if the reservations at 7.15
Starting point is 00:53:53 What time is she there? I'm ordering it, I'm ordering a quarter to eight. And I have, yeah, oh my gosh. But I said the same thing I said, I wish that I was more on time. Yeah. I wanted to say one thing to Oliver because nobody remembers this from Screen Queens. And I really hope that you do. Do you remember that scene where you have to say the word macabre?
Starting point is 00:54:14 Yeah, of course. And could not. Oh, yeah, yeah. I didn't imagine that in my head, right? No, no. couldn't get it out i it was macabre i was like i can't get it it's like it's macabre i'm like but there's an r i could not get it and not saying macab on cue cannot cry on cue that's so funny you remember macab because it's maceabre i think is how you spell it the name of an
Starting point is 00:54:43 irish cop and it just fucked me up and i could and you know when you you're coming to that word in your dialogue you're like oh shit here it comes here it comes it's like it's summer cover oh fuck the one that broke you I'm just I didn't imagine that in my mind no that's real that's real you guys you guys thank you guys thank you for coming on and sharing everything awesome yes and congrats on your sobriety buddy that's awesome thanks yeah yeah ma'am love you guys love you guys It's so crazy. How big. I mean, I mean, you, I know, because you haven't seen them since they were little, little, little.
Starting point is 00:55:25 I mean, I saw Abigail. I mean, I can't believe it was 10 years ago. It's almost too much. It's insane. They're like, they're real adults. Like, serious. She's so much older. There's an adult.
Starting point is 00:55:36 It's a, they're adults. She's a woman. I know. It's so weird. Wow. That was great. I loved it. All right.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Bye. Bye. and I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians, artists, and activists, to bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective.
Starting point is 00:56:05 The Moment is a space for the conversations we've been having us, father and daughter, for years. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Does anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. How does someone prove that they deserve to live?
Starting point is 00:57:06 We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life. on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Introducing IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. It grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients.
Starting point is 00:57:42 You think you're finally like in the right hands. You're just not. Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years, until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small. Towns. Listen to Graves County on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And to binge the entire season, ad free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.
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