Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Band of Brothers- The Jo Bros

Episode Date: July 22, 2024

The oldest Jonas Brother, Kevin and his youngest sibling, Franklin join Kate and Oliver for a supersized sibling convo! Did Franklin ever want to join his brothers’ band? Who is the most reliable Jonas Brother? And how do they continue to “build” their brotherly bonds as full-fledged adults? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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September is National Suicide Prevention Month, so join host Jacob and Ashley Schick as they bring you to the front lines of One Tribe's mission. One Tribe save my life twice. Welcome to Season 2 of the Good Stuff. Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast. or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.

And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling rivalry. No, no. Sibling rivalry. Don't do that with your mouth. sibling Revelry That's good

Holy shit Guess who's back Guess who decided to show up The one The only The talented The maybe Grammy winning At some point in her life

Kate Hudson Oh thank you Thank you Thank you Ollie it's so nice to see you again I'm so happy I'm so glad you made time to come on my show Oh any any time

Oh my god I miss this I was I was kind of upset because we had this podcast today and then literally a couple hours ago You were like I can't make it I'm like what are you fucking out of your mind We haven't done one in a thousand years We have to do this one and it's the Jonas It's two of the Joe bros

I was like I can't do this alone. I canceled paddle boarding. I'm out probably 180 bucks for the paddle boards, but it's fine. I'll shoot you in Moe request. But I'm really excited about today. Well, first of all, I miss you. We didn't even talk about how we just went on an epic vacation together with our families.

Oh, my God. Well, yes. We haven't done it in so long. Oh, my God, it was so much fun. It was honestly, you're reinvigorating for families. togetherness because by the way to be fair it all went really smoothly no one fought everyone had the best time it was all everyone was together the cousins the grandparents the brothers and sister fucking the most fun i've had in a long long time and we did so much in like two and a half weeks

thanks to kate because kate's like okay it's nine a m we're up we've got this we're going on this towards the Parthenan. And I'm like, oh my God. But we got bikes riding around Spetsis, the whole island. I'm like, holy shit. But in a toast that I sort of made at the end of the trip, I thanked her for pushing us because the minute that you get there and you're actually experiencing and not just sitting around,

it changes the whole game, you know? Yeah. Oh, I love you. No, it's true because, like, I always say, like, if you're on a trip with a bunch of people, organize the things and then either come or don't come. You know what I mean? It's like, and then there are certain things that sometimes I'm like,

no, you have to do this. It's going to be fun and let's just go. And I know you're a little hungover, but we're biking, we're biking the island. Yes, yes. Which was the best. Oh, my God. Well, you couldn't bike because you had re-out.

What happened was when I was on a little ATV and then our friend Jamie's bike broke down. So now I had to squeeze the three, people on an ATVD and I'm like pumping the gas can. I'm like literally sitting on the gas can. Oh, it was a bit of a struggle. Oh, and then I mean, we were at, you know, you cut your foot open. We had to go to like the one we defined one doctor on the island. Like it was like, yeah, I got stitches. We had a, it was adventurous. Oh my God. It was. Anyway, that was a blast. It was so fun. And now we're back. You're, you're back. I'm in Colorado.

we get to be together again shortly. I can't wait. I can't wait. This is actually exciting for me because as I have known Nick and Joe Jonas throughout the years, I've never met Kevin. I never met Kevin. And I only met Frankie Jonas once or twice. Yeah. And a long time ago.

I've only met Nick. I worked with him on Scream Queens, but I've only met Nick. I haven't met any of the other bros. Yeah, and they're awesome And their family's great And the mom and the mom The parents are great and really cool Great family

It's going to begin I'm excited Especially with Frankie and Kevin How far apart they are You know And now they're working together 13 years On the show

So it's just an interesting dynamic And they have the show They're on their third season Which is amazing And yeah Let's just Bring them in Get into it

I have so many questions I will Listen, I know a lot about your family. Yeah, you want to, yeah, that was a long time ago. It was a long time ago, but I got to know your brothers very well. But it's exciting to talk to you guys and get into all of this stuff because, because, Frankie, you're like, you're the baby. I am. I am the little, little baby boy for sure.

You're the surprise. You were, you were the surprise. I was definitely surprised. A surprise or a mistake. Yeah, it was a mistake or surprise? I've wondered that myself for many years. I think it can be both things, which is great. And it's all about the way you look at it at the end.

And we're very happy and frequent in our life. Happy accident. We'll call it a happy accident. I like that. I like that. And, Kevin, aren't you the oldest? I am, yeah. So me and Franklin are actually 13 years apart, which is really awesome.

um so i say it this way when people ask and they're like oh that makes more sense like he was four and i was driving wow yeah you know like you say it like that and go people are like oh okay it's a different thing so we live like separate lies for so long but i think as you know i don't know if you feel the same way but like as you get older like age becomes like less and so like yeah it's so drastic at that point but then at you know later in life it just does No, our relationship really blossomed later. Well, before we get into your whole family upbringing and all that, just now that we have you too,

so how did that work out? Meaning, you know, at what point in your siblinghood did you finally kind of come together and that age gap, you know, decreased? Where it was, we're homies now. It was definitely with the show. I mean, once we started filming this together, I think we had to spend more time together

than we'd ever spent that solo. And so I think that, Through this, we really created a relationship and sort of found our own little path as brothers and friends, which has been really special. That's cool. I mean, Katie and I are only two and a half years apart, but it's not dissimilar to what we're doing with our podcast, where we were always tight. But this has definitely brought us together more often, always communicating, always sort

of talking, always in each other's faces, you know. So it's great. It's a good way to connect. And I think that was really fun for us. Like he said, like being able to work together when we don't. When I work with, you know,

the two other guys every day, see them more than enough. But then be able to do this with Frank was just awesome. Well, the funny thing, Oliver is 10 years older than Wyatt. And there is a different kind of relationship that happens. Once you get like,

I think once you're past like the seven year mark, because when you're seven, I think you're still in the house a little bit longer. You know, feel like you're kind of growing up together, but like 10 years old, I mean, because I'm seven years from Wyatt, but 10 year to 13 year difference. I mean, you know, it's a substantial, especially in the development of your brain. I mean, at 13, your hormones are raging. Your brain's in a completely different place. The last thing you want to do is deal with a little baby brother.

It was like, I think that was, I think that's actually why we weren't as close. To be honest, like, I think Franklin was very, very close with, you know, Nick and Joe growing up, you know, as those families were, because I essentially kind of similar to our relationship. It's nice to meet you in person, Kate, right? Like, that's the idea. Like, we, I was kind of living outside of the bubble of L.A. And, like, I was in New Jersey. And my wife, Danielle, we're kind of setting up our life here with our kids.

And that was what I was focused on. And I was doing that so much earlier than everyone else in my life. And I kind of, like, felt almost like, it's odd. but I almost felt like the outcasts for living that life because no one else was doing it yet. So it's really strange and then everyone caught up. It's just interesting how like you, it's all about your perspective. But are you guys on the same level playing field now or are you the elder statesman? Will you tell Franklin not, dude?

Hey, little man. Fucking listen to you. No, no, no, no. When we work together, it's, you know, it's just me and him. Yeah. Unless he's saying differently, but I don't know. No, no, no, I think, no, you're totally right. I think that there's definitely some times, I definitely think that regardless,

just because of the age and I think the maturity and also hosting, right, is something that Kevin has done before and I hadn't done before the show. I think there definitely is, like, I look up to him in a lot of ways, and I go to him for advice or go to him for even like some constructive criticism on how to do my job better because I trust him so much. I think that that's being the younger, younger, younger, of a family of very successful people, you realize after a certain point

that that well of knowledge is there for you for a reason. I mean, how old were you guys when you started the Jonas Brothers? So this year, actually next year, will be 20 years of the band. Like our first place, I know, great, right? So I was, I left high school around like juniors, like senior year, actually senior year.

And it was one of those weird things where we kind of just, like, I was out of the, out of school at that point. I think I was like 16 when we started like really doing things. But like the band didn't take off, you know, takes 10 years to be an overnight success, right? So like it was a while. But like our first project that like got traction was like, you know, five years later. How old was Frank? How old were you, Frankie? If Kevin was 16, then I would have been like three or four really.

And then we moved to LA, and that was really the quantifier for me of, like, it's happening and life is changing. And that happened when I was five or six. Well, so I was just thinking, like, when Frankie was born, were you guys already kind of, it was like, you guys are these little, like, three pack, you know? You already had years and years of just us, right? And so it was cool. It shook it all up. Joe was really, like, want to hold the baby, like, have, you know. And I think that's so interesting because it's like they still have that like he just went to Europe with Franklin just went to Europe with Joe and like they just like kicked it with his, his girlfriend, Anna. And like it was like Franklin's girlfriend Anna. And so it was just like awesome. And it's like that relationship's still there. I think it's transnational all these years, which is really cool. It makes, it's funny. It also makes sense that Joe is the one that was more like the baby.

The nurturing. I want to get it. Yeah. No, but now, I mean, like, I just spent a few days with Kevin in New Jersey, and that's something that, like, was really special. He gave me my mullet, which was great. And I think that as we've grown older, it's just been interesting to navigate finding that the different relationships. And, you know, because after five years, I think it's five years, you become an only child.

And so that's been an interesting thing to navigate, uh, being, finding an individual relationship with each of them. Yeah, that's such an interesting, different place, you know, for you, where it is having individual relationships with your brothers because there really wasn't the four-pack, essentially, you know what I mean? Right. You have to kind of navigate those relationships. Do you four of you always, do you guys get together? Oh, yeah. You do a lot.

We try to as much as we can. It is hard, right? Like, everyone's everywhere. Yeah. Joe's got a spot in Miami, New York. and then Nixdell, L.A., with his family, and then I'm here in New Jersey. So, like, we're everywhere, and then we work together constantly, but we then go so many different directions, depending on where everyone's, you know,

posted up and families are. So it's, like, it's pretty hard, but we do a lot of family stuff together. Like, yeah, we at least try. We make it a priority. But, I mean, last year, Thanksgiving was the first time that we had had everybody, parents, grandparents, and also. So, like all the nieces, all the granddaughters in one room. And the kids.

That was the first time we never done that. There's a lot of Jonas girls going, like, happening. I was about to say, are they all nieces? Yeah, every single one. So my mom got four boys, but now she's got five granddaughters. So it's pretty great. That's exactly what happened. That's Danny.

That's my partner. So Danny is three brothers, and they all are just having girls. There's three granddaughters. There's like, there's so many girls. And my brother and sister-in-law, Danielle's sister, she also had a girl. So, like, even when the cousins come in, too, and it's just like, there's more. It's insane. That's awesome.

My dad wanted all girls, and he kept trying. And I am the last try at a girl. That's why you waited that long. You finally convince my mom. And so now it's like all this payback coming due. Yeah. He doesn't know what to do with himself. An overwhelming number of girls.

That is awesome. I guess what's really interesting about this is like, Frankie, your perspective, because, you know, I mean, growing up, you guys, where's you in, where did you grow up? Jersey, and then move to L.A. And then L.A., right. And so you were five, and you guys were already pursuing Kevin, you and Joe and, and Joe and, uh, and, and. and Nick were pursuing music. Yeah. It was just like we were growing up in the church at that point,

like playing music. But then like Nick was, my mom was pregnant with Franklin when Nick was on Broadway. Yeah. His first big performance was, or one of his first really big performances was Beauty and the Beast. He was in, he was like in rehearsals while my mom was about giving birth to me.

Christmas Carol. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. so like she was driving into the city nine months pregnant and bringing them to the show and then had a newborn for like the next five years while he was doing all these different shows and joe too doing love well um and i was doing at that point like we started doing like commercials here in new york and like that whole like vibe and just got crazy

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or wherever you get your podcast. How did that happen? Was it because your family and your parents are in the arts? Yeah, a little bit. It was a friend of ours that had a hair salon. It's so Jersey that it's ridiculous. I had a hair salon, and my brother was singing in the salon, which is, like, ridiculous.

And so he was singing, and then this lady, like, turn around in her chair. It's like out of a movie and was like, you should know go meet this lady named Shirley Grant. She was a kid's talent agent back in the day. She was here in New Jersey. Because I think your son has something you can work with. My son, nephew, I'm not sure what she said, but is on Les Mis, in La Miz on Broadway. So my parents ended up taking Nick, and we all got like, she wanted to work with. all of us and that was the beginning of the the journey but nick was like doing broadway that's what

he wanted wow yeah yeah and then but you and joe didn't have that same it's funny joe's all he wanted at the time was to be on all that like he was to be a comedian he wanted to make people laugh and he didn't want to sing he thought it was the most uncool thing ever um and then of course he ends up doing Loboem on Broadway with Baz Luhrman, which is a total, like, ridiculous. But he got this role. He could sing, which is crazy. And then he could say, and then we all know Joe can sing. And so, like, the thing is, it's really funny how the thing you hate is the thing first job he gets. He got Darfur Dodger and Oliver, like an off Broadway thing. And then, but it's funny, like, I was the one that wasn't doing the singing thing. And I got, like,

I got work almost immediately because I looked at it was, my mom gave me. Do you remember the frosted tips, like the frosted hair tips? Yeah, of course. Yeah, we all did it back. And so, like, I had that, but, like, early, like, young, I was cool, but I got made fun of all the time in high school, middle school at this point. Like, it was like, they called me pisshead. It was really, really funny. That was great.

I saw the scene. So, yeah. So, like, I was dealing with that, but that's with the thing that got me the job, which is so, of course, the justice position. Yeah. But so you guys are like young and in it. Young, young in it. We were like child, yeah, actors and stuff. Were you all, we all pretty supportive of each other?

Oh, yeah. And at this point, we're like, this is so cool, you know. And then Frankie, what was your perception of this, like, from the young? I mean, you're six two years old. Frankie was still breastfeeding. Yeah. I don't think I'm conscious yet. I didn't know my own name.

No, but I mean, I mean, as you started to get older, because I would think that like your whole childhood like we could get into you know Kevin you and Joe and Nick and like what that felt like but we're talking to you guys which is you know you're like you're a baby they're often running really they start to you know and then really when you start to come into your childhood you've got your brothers are like big music a huge music act yeah I guess the question is when did you you realize like oh shit my brother's not living in a house and we lived in a bus i think is when it really yeah there was a few moments i mean like a lot of my like fondest memories from when i was a

a really really young kid's first memories were in you know a big white passenger van going between like dare not to do drug assembly tours that they were doing in new jersey and i don't you know i don't really remember any of the broadway days just because i was so young but i do really like my first memories are all really from their shows. And I think first time that I really realized that life was going to change from the very small level of stasis that I had gotten used to is when they did their first commercial as a band, it was the baby bottle pop commercial.

And it was when it was just a very big moment. They did like they did the baby bottle pop song. And my parents brought me out. They made it. Yeah, they made it. They made a big, big problem. And on that same trip, I think it was the same trip, they were on Hannah Montana.

And that was my favorite show as a kid. My first celebrity crush was Hannah, not Miley, but Hannah. And it was, I was obsessed. And so it just, I think that was the big moment for me where I realized that life was going to be very different. Did you look up to it? Is this, you know, because this is what I want to do? I think at first it was hard just because,

I was a kid and I didn't really realize. The only thing that I could think about was moving away from my friends. And I look back and I always say that I really wanted to be like a townie. Like at that point of my life, my image of life was like staying in the same place, working at the 7-Eleven or like working at the Ritas and staying in New Jersey. But I think, no, once we got to L.A. And we're living that style of life that was so different from being like pastors kids in New Jersey. I very quickly acclimated.

Were you pulled out of New Jersey when you had your friends and you had established your life at that point? Well, he was five. As much as a six-year-old. Yeah, as much as a six-year-olds get established. Okay, so you were six. So there wasn't any like, I don't want to leave. This is my home.

There wasn't a lot of... There was more like that for us. A little bit. A little bit. We were ready to get out of there. Right, right. But we were like, let's go to L.A. Yeah.

Yeah, the first time being told we were moving, I definitely felt a... sense of like sadness. But then very quickly was like, oh, wait, I were moving to LA and like going to be on Disney Channel and going to be touring and whatever. And so the morning process was very short. What was it like being a pastor's son? How does that, how does growing up with a pastor as a dad work out for you guys?

We had a cool pastor. Because we don't know anything about what that must be like. no you know just we're rebellious just naturally we're kids or boys you know it was you know it was you know it was kind of preparing us to be in front of a lot of people all the time and having a lot of pressure i think i think to be fair i think that was my parents path and that was their journey and i think it was an incredible time in our life and growing up in that environment it's like the first family of a church right so like you're a front row you're a you're sitting there and you can't you know you're not messing up and you're you're trying to do

the best you can but then there's a lot of pressure and a lot of unnecessary pressure and you feel that and but at the same time with that pressure is where I learned to play guitar so like at the same I'm a grateful for it 110 you know 10 so like there's like there's balance to everything it's just how you look at it but like I I remember growing up in my dad getting this job and this moving back in New Jersey and at this point we are living in Dallas and I remember coming to New Jersey and it's just felt like a whole new world and I loved it here and still live here. This is my home and I think that's part of it. Yeah, Kevin and I are the only brothers to actually be born in New Jersey. The rest of them were born elsewhere, but lived most of their

life in Jersey. Is there, was there ever pressure to not to live to, to, if you didn't want to go down that path, if you didn't want to sort of have religion very strong in your life, where your parents okay with that, where they look, hey, this is us and you need to do you. Definitely, it was more of like, when you're younger, I don't think you really get a choice about much of your life, right? Exactly. You're like being, you're in that environment. That was our own. Yeah.

This is who you are. As we became adults and made our own decisions, of course, they were respectful of anything we would do. You know, like, they were just like, oh, you're going to lose your life. There's pressure. And as the first one, I think I felt way more than Franklin ever felt. I was about to say. I mean, I mean, we had very different parents. You know, the insane people.

Yeah. Yeah, it was a, and then when we left New Jersey and he left being a pastor, you know, I think they were just like, that whole like a little bit of a weight of that pressure fell off. But then it just, it just transitioned, I think, into my dad, like working with the band. Like he had, it was like one of our managers and, you know, so like, I think he took a lot of that excellence that he, we into the band. And sometimes I think that actually was difficult for us because we're like, we saw all these kids that were like rebelling in the industry music. industry you know and like or being a certain way and like they're getting so much like love for that and like we're like goody two shoes over here and so it just felt like weird it was like this weird like pressure that kind of transitioned into our band in the beginning that's so cool you make

such an interesting story interesting point though it's like you had two different parents entire i made i made kevin jealous on many occasions because our parents were so lenient with me with issues that they were very not lenient with them. I think I'd be honest with you, I think that's probably why I had conflict with them for a little while. Just like, what the hell is this? But at the same time, like, now I told, as a parent of two girls, like, I'm like, oh, yeah, you're just doing the best you can.

You don't know anything. You're just making this as you go along. Totally. Totally. You're just hoping it all works out. Yeah. You know, your parents were, like, quite involved in the beginning, like you said, your dad. Yeah.

Was that a good thing? Did that feel like it was a helpful, trusting thing? Or did that also, I mean, a lot of times when parents get into that, like, you know, role, it can become very challenging. Unlike most, I would say, and I'm not speaking to everyone, but I would say, unlike most people, my father was actually kind of qualified. Like, he was an incredible singer. Like, he can quote you, like, every top 10.

board thing for the last like hundred years like he was his wealth of music knowledge and understanding and he you know he grew up singing country music clubs like nightclubs his whole life like he he lived he like he got it right um and i think i think with anything when you work with family it's complicated right there are good there are bad i don't know you guys work together i'm sure there's good and then there's bad like it's just what it is right so like what so i think as we got older and I think there are some thing I think we just needed to kind of venture on our own like anybody does and I think but the time as him working with us I'll never regret and he still is like an advisor to us and we call on him to you know for input and you know ideas and like yeah

he's we're he's much more a part of our environment now I think than whatever was before yeah it's also it's actually really interesting because it's also just as a parent you want your kids to be their own people. Right. So after a while, you're sort of like, you guys need to figure this out. You know, there's that too, which is like you really want your kids to be able to work with, to have other people out in the world that they can work with and know how to manage those things as well and navigate it.

Yeah. You know, height of like Jonas Brothers fame. And then Frankie, I just want to know, like, did you feel left out when that was happening? yeah I mean it was so their their height I mean Kevin you could probably answer it better but 2008 to 2010 I think was the period where it was like yeah craze it was insane yeah yeah that was I think the real like the real meat and potatoes of it I mean I didn't think that was the first rise I feel like there's been like two ways which is yeah now we're in this other thing that's like better and bigger than it's ever been but like

yeah agreeing with that frankly that was like the The beginning. It was it, right? Like, you were, that line down the street for a show at 4 a.m. For Good Morning America thing that was happening. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

You know, like, the Beatles mania of it was definitely happening at that point. How did that feel for you? I didn't have any, like, jealousy or anything like that. I didn't really, I never wanted to be in the band. I definitely wanted to be in music and to write, but I think that even from that age, as Kevin put earlier, like, they were a unit, you know, and I was, I was very far afterwards. I was like more of an only child. And so I didn't see them, like, the Jonas Brothers brand as my entry point or the way that I would want to make music. And I'm the biggest fan of their music.

I think there is. I know it from back to front their entire discography. But I think that it was just never really my, my cup of tea to want to join or be a part of them. that. I think that we did a lot together. I mean, we did Jonas together. We did camp rock together. We did a lot of those sorts of projects. And I was more on the acting side, especially when I was younger. That was really more my thing was. And yeah, it wasn't really my path. And then when they came back together, even then it was still like I was working on my solo music. And that was a very different energy than the music that they release and I think that I had finally found

sort of the music and the voice that I wanted to do and regardless, I was I think one of the first people to stand up and be so excited when they told me that they were getting back together and they were working on this new project. What's your music? How does your music differ? It's, you know, it's more DIY for sure. It's more indie kind of

experiential it's definitely more on it's not for like a broader audience i would say yeah i think that i you know i think that that's even that still it's it dude them being in my life has been such an incredible well of knowledge for that process of understanding that i didn't have my 10,000 hours and and really understanding that like you know whether it be on broadway or in hair salons or wherever or at church, they got their 10,000 hours and really paid their dues in a way

that I was so excited to learn about. And even if, you know, times have been different, they were like, come do whatever with us. I think that even then I would have probably been said no, just because I think the level of experience that they have, I pray that I one day am able to get close to just because they're such professionals and they're so experienced.

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like first of all how important is that sibling relationship and how difficult is it to maintain you know because you got to work at all relationships it's extremely hard It takes work. I think, you know, me and Franklin, we don't spend nearly enough time together, honestly, but I'm happy when we do. But the guys, when me, do a nick work, like, we will find time where it's not where we actually hang out and we try to take some time, especially on the road, like, once a week, once every two weeks, like, whatever it is and just be like, just to hang out, like actually do something together, like whether that's, you know, we golf a lot together. But I mean, like, truly like, do something, just us, the just the three of us, just to make sure that we're like,

not just getting lost in the mix of it all. Yeah, because you guys all communicate differently, too, right? Everyone has their own specific relationships with each other, which is an interesting dynamic. It's too interesting, honestly. Yeah. It's all too much. Like there's certain brothers you might be able to be more open with,

you know, and sort of spill your heart. There's other ones that maybe have better advice where it's like, oh, I want to go to you for this, you know. You're also all very different. that's an understatement we are the most different four siblings really it's wild how different how so how so i mean

it's like the character versions of ourselves if they're going to like write something in a mix like they truly are have to be a character version because that's the only way to describe how ridiculous you know what they are we um i don't know if you guys know about like the four archetypes of like the hero the the um what's the comedian

in the scapegoat and like The lost child, the way we fit into those four categories. We're not unique. Let's put it that way. No, we're not unique, but we're very, we're very unique in other ways. But no, we, hold on, hold on. So, so who would you say is the most reliable? Like, you can rely on this person. Nick, like you can count on this person.

I could have, I can answer this one too, for sure. It was, there was one time when we went. went over to Nick's house, me and my girlfriend, she was vegetarian, and he ordered a bunch of food. And he, when it came, and it was like, oh, is there like a vegetable option? And he, the way his face dropped because he realized that he hadn't ordered a vegetarian option, going forward for even now, she's not a vegetarian anymore, he will still order her a vegetarian an option wherever we go just because he like remembers that moment so well and it's such a such a nick mickism who's who would you who would you say is like the wise old

owl who do you think the one that people like respect their advice and say okay well this person sort of has a little more intuition than than the others i might also say nick on that one i think these are only franklin's answers Nick is like a hundred years old. You're getting crushed, buddy. That's all right. That's what I said. Like, remember, I was outside the mix. That's why I think.

All right. Who's the one to go to jail? Who's going to jail first? Probably me. Franklin. I've definitely gone. Yeah. Who's the most emotional of like vulnerable, okay with a vulnerability, emotion, you know?

I think Joe is definitely open. and, you know, when he can be and, like, really let you in, like, you're all there. Mm-hmm. Who's the most, like, who's the most cryptic? Like, you're like, man, this dude's holding a secret. What's up with this guy? Kevin, 100% Kevin. I like Kevin.

Kevin is, like, a, like, a zodiac riddle. He's, he's, he's someone you got a really good, you read out of it. But this actually brings up an interesting subject, which is, you know, Kevin, you got married really young. Like you, you, you, right? I mean, you met your, you met your wife. You were, I mean, how old are you? I was, Dave, how old was I?

20. No, 19. When we met. We were, yeah, when I met 19 years old. She actually walked in. She's drawing something for her bachelor, her sister's bachelor's bachelor's bachelor's party, actually. I can see her working on it diligently.

Hi. Um, so, yeah, so, I mean, you were young and then you had a family Really, yeah. No, we went, we knew. We were just like, this is it. Let's do this thing. You know, and I was pumped. But then we had our daughter, our first daughter, Alina, in 2014, five years later. So like, while you guys were still young, like, you kind of branched off outside of your little, the brother. We got married young. We kind of knew we wanted to. And then we just like, we were like, you know, let's after about a year of traveling, and living in LA for a minute and her house. We were just like, I knew we were at this time still in the band. So it felt like the right thing to do was for her to have her ecosystem around her when I was traveling. So it's either she's alone or with my family or, you know, something else.

And so like it was one of those weird things where like I just felt like it was better. And then Franklin was like an uncle. I was like an uncle like 10. So yeah, I'm so I'm only when. Alina, Kevin's first daughter was born, I was only a year older than Kevin was when I was born. Crazy.

It is nuts. And so, I mean, I think what happens, I mean, this would be like my armchair, like psychology assessment of this, but what happens when you meet your partner and you're

young is that it does kind of shift the dynamics. a little bit, you know, it can, it became my, that became my, because that's your life. It was my outlet. It was my escape. It was where I wanted to be. And so like that became your best friend. Everything. So, you know, we've been married now for 15 years. And so like it was, it's incredible. And the fact that we have a growing life together and, you know, it still changes. I think we talked about this recently. We feel like sometimes it is kind of cool. A lot of people say that when you get married young at times or you meet your person like you drift apart i actually think we grew up together which i

maybe that worked for us and what we both needed and that's how i feel and i you know it's not saying it works for everyone but work for me yeah i definitely didn't work for me yeah yeah it doesn't everybody you know no but dude it's like get on a case by case basis no i've been i've been with my my wife for 23 years married 17 married 18 and and look i was got with i got together with her 24 but you know it always takes work it's never just perfect i mean you're always working at that shit and that's how you grow together you know what i mean that's how you can you can always make the choice if love is there of course if the foundation of love and respect is there you can either grow up grow apart or grow together or do a little bit of you know so i think communication is also

massively important and i have to work on that constantly every day because i'm one of those guys that like reacts really fast and then has to retract and go okay yeah actually feeling like i'm like i'm like i can't help it i think it's it's it's worked on it for a long time still working gonna it's like we have a moment i'm just like snap real fast and just like no oh no i relate to that i just i just said it yesterday we were we were talking about something and i just couldn't get past it i was just like you know what okay restart new new like just full reset like reset it all and we can just we're moving forward here but reset like no i know i i had the same thing where Aaron was supposed to pick up these antibiotics, you know,

because she was like, I'll get them on the way home. I said, okay, great. And then, you know, she comes and said, did you get the antibiotics? She's like, no. And I go, oh, like, oh, crazy like that. And she's like, what the fuck? And I'm like, you know. And she's like, chill out.

And we got in like a little scuffle over it. Because I really like happened to me yesterday. It was simple. Oh, my God. It was so simple. Danny. we're building a new house across the street so there's a lot of questions to be out yeah yeah uh that can cause fights too i'm doing it so i'm like i've got the list you guys they say

building houses is like it's like one of the top reasons for divorce you know what if it's not a testament to our relationship don't we've done this this is our ninth yeah i was like krist and danny have built a lot of houses together i think they made it through that storm i also say i also to think at the end of the day, like, it's always a woman's house. Like, you just, we got to have the final say. I'm just going to say, I literally go, I walked in and I showed her two different colors today about something. I put it on her desk. And I go, I know what I would choose. And I'm like, tell me what you want. You know, like, I'm not like, I don't care. You want this wall move? Oh, this is awful. Rip it down. Like, let's go. Well, that, that's why it works. It's when people try to

like control it's like at the end of the day there's something like unless unless the woman just hates doing things like that but if a woman really wants to build her home like you got to let it's like you you have input but like if there's something where a woman's like no there is an opening in the kitchen and it's going to look like this and it's going to have tile all over it there's no fight exactly exactly no it was so simple like we have these like we're when I say we're building across the street from our house, I literally mean, like, actually across the street. So, like, I can look out any window and just look at the house being built and seeing if people are there. And, like, it's pretty amazing. It's the most convenient, but also problematic because

what's happening is, like, I'm just going back and forth all day. You know, and so, like, it's great. But at the same time, I'm realizing it's, I'm there more than I want to be. I'm literally, Kevin, I'm literally about to do the same thing. I am, I have the house. I have the How, I'm, I'm, I'm, literally next door. It's great. I put cameras up while we're touring and traveling and playing shows. And I like, I have cameras on our current house looking at our new build. And everyone, I'm getting made fun of this a lot by my brother saying that this is all I talk about.

But when you build a house, they've never built a house. They've purchased homes. They've run-knitted stuff. They've never built a house. Like, when I say build, I mean straight top. I am the GC on the job. I'm doing it. And it's like, there's no time.

I was really bad mood right before I got on this call because I found out when I ordered the windows, there's an entire window missing, big window from our house. Oh, no. And now you've got to wait like months. Yeah, and it's not my fault. They're going to say it's my fault. And so I'm like game planning how I just like make it their fault. Yeah. Wait a minute.

How have you built nine houses? I'm not built. He moves like every two years. Renovated five, built three. But is this part of your business, meaning like you like this is a money making? I used to do that and realize I was not very lucky with that. I decided that music is much better career path for me.

Yeah. I think the biggest issue in building, because I love it. It's like one of my passions, right? I love interior design. I love redoing houses. I want to do it all the time. I have people in my house quoting.

things all the time. The biggest thing is, is that it's the only, one of the only businesses where you incentivize someone to actually spend your money. You're like, I get 20% on top of everything. And then, and then it's like, ah, you got some water damage. So it's going to be another $150,000. You're like, but I'm not paying you for this. No, no. That's why, like, that's why literally I started doing it all myself, because it's like, I'm going to make the decisions myself. I've met and I've amazing people around us that like know what they're doing and like

hire the right subs, hire the right people to do the jobs and the house is going to look amazing and it's going to be great. You know, we've great team and I just, I'm so mad about this window thing like literally could like put my fit in this camera. They,

oh God, it just doesn't matter. It's just what it is. You've got to breathe it out. Are you moving into this house? Yeah, this is like for us. We really wanted something like well now not for two months later because of this window no it's okay i can finish pretty much it won't change anything it'll just make me more stressed than i need to be self-analysis yeah what is that why do you feel like you need to move all that like it's fun and it's like like i don't know okay i don't know if you agree but like there's something kind of incredible about walking into a

property seeing like i can look at a blueprint i can see what that room's going to look like in my head Like, I feel like I can do that now, right? Like, and so I can say that. And my wife, Daniel has incredible taste. And so she has great, like, she takes the most amazing stuff. And, like, we, we were looking at, like, literally, like, our, like, what our closet was going to be, not our massive, like, our, but, like, our, like, our, like, walking closets in the, like, just like a normal coat closet in our foyer. And the design thing that she came up with that was going to fix the problem is so much better than something, anything else I would think. about. So it's just like together we're making it's just fun. It's the most creative process and it's all it's

it's the most creative process and it's also like the most when you really kind of love it it's just talk about like creating an expression like to me it's like that that's like you walk into a room and that experience you have walking into a room and what what you can you know I think it's why people are so obsessed with these shows. It's like I can watch H. I could watch H. I could watch house hunters, like international all day long, just because I want to see what people do to these apartments in, like, you know, Bermuda. Like, I just, how people live and, like, what they choose to live in is, like, kind of an amazing expression of, you know, personality.

Any time we travel, like, the first thing I'm doing is I'm looking at, like, the homes in the area when we're, like, do it, like, in somewhere random. And, like, I'm just curious what is going on. Are you going to settle down? Yeah, this is the way Our hope, if not, I think we I don't know, we said that Every single time

he's moved, he said, guys, we finally found our dream house and then within a year or two. I don't want to count anything out but I really am excited about this product. Like I want to, I'm hopeful that this is the house that the girls graduate high school. Right. You know, like this is that space.

And so. Perfect. Yeah. That's an exciting place. to be, too. I just wonder, like, who's the one that, like, let's say the shit hits the fan is going to be the one that's going to be like, okay, this is what we're going to do. I've got a plan. I don't know. It's for everyone. I'm being real. I think we're being real. I think we depend on each other. Like, there's not one person. I think we're a family. I think I think at the end of the day like it's a you everyone's got a job you know what I mean like it's not

like there's a one person that's going to fix their like it's I think we're too we're we have too much crazy personalities for that how about how about this is kind of how about if there's a zombie apocalypse right like who's taking what role in trying to sort of survive and yeah that's a great question um I think we at for role like I'm logistics king. Like if I'm if I'm talking about like playing strange. So you're mapping out how to get to the coast. You know,

I think Joe is trying to make dinner out of berries in the woods. Yeah. I'm like going on runs into the city and then do like sneaking around and stuff. And they're trying to find supplies. Yeah. Nick's building a wall around wherever we are. Yeah. So, like, if there was an earthquake, whose house would be the most prepped?

Well, mine's going to stand up the longest because I'm building it. But, like, who will have the most, like, who will have the most supplies? I have a disaster preparedness kit, but that's exclusively because my girlfriend wills me to have it. So she, yeah, she's the one who's prepared for, we moved to L.A. and it was like, we were looking at houses and we couldn't find, I would show her, be like, oh, this place is amazing. She'd pull up her phone.

Nope, that's in a floodplain. Can't do that. And then we'd go, like, she knew every piece of possible disaster that we could incur. I think Joe is a hypochondriac. So he would be prepared the most, I think, because I think he would be, like, worried about everything. Yeah.

So season three, claim to fame. yep now explain how this came about like what like how did this happen it was kind of crazy this company uh was making this show and in their original pitch document to abc it was me and franklin and yeah wow this is a placeholder i think abc thought they had us attached which was really worked way too hard to make it the deal work um but luckily it did uh and that so they came to us, they pitched us the idea, and they asked were like, hey, would you want to work together on this? And I was like, this is when you finally get to

do something to get together. Yeah. Joe, for everyone that's listening to know what it is. Yeah. Franklin, you always say it says it best. Yeah, give us your net. Give our listeners the elevator pitch.

Yeah, it's just the Nepo baby Olympics. It's just the Nepo baby Olympics. We have, uh, once we get in like the logistics, Kevin's better at, I just, I'm able to sum it up in that really well. But we have, it's basically able to have 12 people in a room to in a house together. They live there. They are all related to a celebrity in some capacity.

You don't know who they're related to. They don't know who they're related to. And the goal is to try to figure it out. They get, at the end of the episode, they have a guess, someone that's decided as the guesser has a guess, they get it right, they stay in the house, they get it wrong, they kicked out. Cool, I love it.

Yeah. Oh, you should go on the shell. That's, I think, why? So then what happens when they win? Like, who, like what? There's $100,000 on the line. Damn. Yeah.

And it's in its third season. It's in its third season. We've had a, we've had a good go of it. We're really enjoying it. This season is bigger and different than other seasons. This season, we had some of the most. iconic names we've had so far, yet somehow they were harder than any other names that we've had.

Yeah. Oh, interesting. Season two, we had a pretty viral moment that people know about the show from the first episode of second season where the niece of Tom Hanks had a, a bit of a whole thing. Yeah. Yeah, and, uh, wait, what happened? I remember this.

Got kicked off and then started like just screaming and tearing up the house and like, it was like, it was crazy. Oh, no. Blocking herself in closets, hysterics. Uh, you set me up. The art department wanted me off the show. My clues are too easy. I'm the most famous person here.

Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. So, do they have to, like, clear, does she have to, like, clear that with Tom Hanks and being like, hey, I'm going on this show, or? We know that, like, this show is really, like, lighthearted and super, like, fun. And you'll see, like, most of the celebrity relatives, like, are now sending videos in to, like, if they win or if they, you know, get kicked off and they're, like, revealing who they are. So, like, you can see that people are, like, supporting them doing the show.

And some, like, prepare them to be, like, on camera. like they're like helping them change their entire identities like it's really it's kind of fun i feel like one i feel like uncle mark uncle mark should do it oh my god he'd be really funny on a show like that we haven't had an uncle or an aunt yet and we've been put we've been pushing for it we want an uncle or an aunt or like a parent or a grandparent i've been pushing for that how much input do you guys have um we actually luckily this is like truly we get to just be the host and do that and uh for now. But then beyond that, we don't know who anyone is. We actually have requested that. We don't know. So we get to play along. And like anytime someone's revealed, like we're experiencing

it just in real time. And everyone's like, well, how do they keep it? Like, how do they not know? It's like, well, we take away all cell phones. They're sequestered. They're like, they're living in a bubble. Right. It's fun. I'm going to watch this. I'm a reality show freak. some instances where there's somebody who to the audience right is so obvious and it's second season particularly there was one guy who they tried to guess him off two or three times nobody could get them and at home episode one people were just outraged by how obvious this person was so you look like did he look like the celebrity identical identical and so but just because it was from an older generation, nobody got it.

Right. Right. Oh, that's so funny. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm, character, and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local.

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a bit of our speed round. Please. I already know one of the questions, which is celebrity crush, at least for Frankie, it was not Miley Cyrus, but Hannah Montana. It was Hannah. It was Hannah. That, yeah, absolutely. Kevin?

What was your celebrity crush? I don't even know. Growing up, my God. Growing up, it was like always, at first, like, Disney Channel show was like Hillary Duff on Liz McGuire. Yes. And then first kiss. Oh, first kiss.

High school girlfriend. High school girlfriend. Yeah. It was my neighbor in L.A. when I was like 12 or 13, she moved in down the street and it was a, it was a summer love affair. Oh, isn't the first kiss so scary? Mine was actually freaked out. I freaked out because this girl, her name was Nicole, and I won't say her last name.

We were living in Colorado, and she was older than me, and I heard this rumor that she was going to kiss me at lunch. I was in fourth grade, and she chased me around, like, outside in Colorado. all of her girlfriends and pinned me down and sort of like eating my face off and I was screaming like no no but at the same time I kind of like sticking my tongue in there and then I was devastated because there's a room there's a rumor going around that she only liked me because my parents were famous and I'm like brutal brutal so I haven't kissed the girl since yeah yeah okay which brother was the nicest growing up. Oh.

Joe. Joe. Joe, yeah. Joe. Sweetheart, sweetheart, baby boy, Joe. And this is a two different for each one. Which brother picked on you the most Frankie? Picked on me the most?

I think probably Kevin. Yeah, probably Kevin. Which, if any, brother might have perfect pitch. Nick? I think Nick's pretty close. It's pretty close, yeah. That's an amazing thing to have and also can be like incredibly challenging. Nick seems as I'm gaining, Nick seems like kind of, you know, the golden boy. But what's Nick's worst flaw? Like, what does that dude need to change in his life? Ask him.

Yeah. Brothers go bad? Like, you don't give advice to brothers. No, it's true. It's true. We just, we know now just to praise each other. Yeah. What is your favorite Jonas Brothers song, Frankie? Oh, favorite, uh, I have an unpopular favorite song that they don't like that I like,

but there's a song that they, that is from another, it's the only one they don't play on the current, uh, tours. And it's, uh, don't charge me for the crime featuring common. Um, classic. Oh, nice. Just to piss us off, clearly honest. No, I genuinely love that song.

I think it's awesome. I'm repeating your house, well, frankly. And Kevin, what's your favorite song to play? Oh, wow. Favorite songs to plur. I really like playing the song, Strangers. It's just so fun,

and it's just an awesome moment anytime we do it. Okay, I love it. Last question. Ollie, you want to ask? Yeah, well, just with the two of you, because it's only two of you, which just makes it easier, but it's a two-part question. So if there was something that you could emulate from your brother,

something that you could take that you don't have, what would it be? And on the flip side of that, if there was something you could extract or alleviate from your brother to make his life a little bit better, what would that be? I think I would relate Franklin's ability to process and understand knowledge. He is one of the smartest people I know, which is really cool and then straight away from him i would take away having to grow up with three brothers in a very famous band for most of his life

complicated thing to navigate um thanks kev that's really sweet of you to say um i would say i mean i've always wanted to play guitar not just play guitar but play guitar as well as kevin i think that's that's like an easy answer um i definitely wish i could have Kevin's confidence. That's something that I think that I, I, I wish I had. I would also alleviate some of his, like, uh, intensity, like needing to go over to the house next door where he's building every, when I was over there, I was at his house for two days.

Half the time I was there, he was next door, even if there wasn't any workers there. He was just checking everything. I love it. You guys, thank you so much for coming on. It was so fun talking to you. Thank you guys. Oh, thank you guys so much. It's been awesome.

Say hi to everybody for us. See you guys soon. Later, boys. Thank you. Bye. Hi, I'm Jennifer Lopez, and in the new season of the Overcomfit podcast, I'm even more honest, more vulnerable, and more real than ever. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life?

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