Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Bros & Pros

Episode Date: February 24, 2025

Discipline, dance, and drama go hand in hand for DWTS brothers, Maks and Val Chmerkovskiy. Find out how humble beginnings and an after-school hobby helped shape their American dreams, and how they’re still coming true today!  Plus, what Maks says about being called a flirt, and what Val thinks when he sees another man trying to tango with his wife! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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September is National Suicide Prevention Month, so join host Jacob and Ashley Schick as they bring you to the front lines of One Tribe's mission. One Tribe saved my life twice. Welcome to Season 2 of The Good Stuff. Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings.

We are a sibling rivalry. No, no. Sibling reverie. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling Reveory. That's good. We have some guests in the waiting room.

I move my body pretty goddamn good. In certain situations, without any practice. I'm great at making love. I'll just say that. But these men, these boys, these. brothers, they can move. Val and Max, Schermikovsky from Dancing with the Stars and much, much more. Let's have a chat.

How are you? What's up, guys? How's it going? Val has his shirt, the most open I've ever seen a shirt worn. I have seen him with a shortho. And he's wearing a New York Yankees hat. I don't know if that's for style or if he's a Yankees fan. What do you say, Val?

I mean, I knew he was going to wear one. I didn't wear mine. Also, I'm just in L.A. And I'm so proud to be rocking my New York hat. Yeah, I did the same. The morning after felt some kind of way, but I was proud. I was proudly, yeah. Yeah, okay.

No, I get that. I mean, look, you have to represent. I was working in New York. I'm doing a movie there. And so I got to go to a couple of games. And, you know, I wore, I wore my Dodgers hat, you know. where did you guys give me a little

taste of like sort of growing up you know where were you were you grew up in Ukraine you know we're six years apart so and uniquely the timing is that I'm 1980s he's

1986 1994 we immigrated from Ukraine to Brooklyn New York I'm 14 and he's eight and that at that moment we in the same household have completely

different views on life and things of that nature because of the ages and kind of the situation that we fell into. But that was it. We immigrated 94. I graduated Brooklyn Public High School. So as he went both six

years apart, no, that's not true that you already graduated. I'll let him speak his facts. But went for a year to Pace University in Manhattan, dropped out after a year. um some six years later val went also to pace just by each year whatever um but anyway we we new yorkers and in 2005 i joined dancing with the stars and started going out into l a what i'm saying is

i never moved always kind of like let's go to l a to do the show and then go back you know home and so i don't really had you know the drive to live here but ended up spending more time here uh The last seven years permanent resident, now permanent resident fam, three kids, two of them born in Cesar Sinai, so. Awesome, dude. That's where I was born. That's where all my kids were born. Yeah, pretty much did all of the same thing.

What he said? Well, let me ask a question, though. Like, moving from the Ukraine, you were eight, you were 14. Obviously, if a 14-year-old, you have a deeper recollection of it, but Val, I'm sure you do as well, right? And what was that like? Was it exciting, you know, or was it you're leaving your home? Yeah, I didn't, you know, just to kind of piggyback off of what Max said, we had a very different assimilation process in this country and therefore a whole different relationship with countries. So for me, it was exciting. I mean, I didn't understand that. We're never coming back,

you know so and and it's been only eight years of developing my relationship with adesa ukraine is where we're from from odessa ukraine um so for me i was i was excited to move i saw that my parents were stressed i saw you know my brother got robbed for his rollerblades the second day in america you know i experienced a lot of these we we experienced these things together as a family But it really educated me more than it, like, traumatized me. Where I, with Max, he was a little older. I think he took it on a little bit harder. And so he had a very different kind of molding process.

But we, you know, we kind of, we were best friends. We shared a bongbet until we were like 30 years old. Well, go and get into that a little bit more, you know, because it's really interesting because, you know, look, we've been doing this podcast for years now. And talking to siblings, even though they were, came from. the same place came from the same parents for the most part were raised the same way uh we are still such individuals in the perception of how we have been raised even though our parents did it the same we take it differently a lot of these siblings have a way different idea of who their father is than

the other let's just say you know yeah um and with that sex your age gap too even the way that you guys for parents, it probably was different. Yeah, I felt pressure vicariously through him. He felt pressure, period. You know, so I think that's the difference. I felt it because I'd seen how, you know, the responsibilities that he had had to embark on earlier on in his life. So just one example is he's now 14, you know, 14, 15, now I'm a father.

I teach kids, you know, for me, that's a child. back in day, 15, you're, you know, you're strong and big and old enough to go work. So we're a household, pops is working, moms is working, you know, what are you doing? So I feel like he immediately found a job, teach dance. Dance was already something he started back in Ukraine, myself as well. But like I said, I'm eight years old. I just know it a little bit. At 15, 14, he found the job dancing at a Russian restaurant on Brighton,

Beach in Coney Island area. And he did it a couple of times with his buddy. And then he approached me, his 12-year-old sibling, to join. Literally said, let's put on a show. I found I was like, yo, I have an element that nobody has in town. I have a 12-year-old who does it better than most adults. And if on there, why not? It's in my household.

That was a novel to act, basically. bring on the 12 year old with his yeah yeah oh I came out and I did my thing and yeah and again again we we just for me that was exciting I didn't realize that I'm dancing for you know mobsters and you know people it's midnight on a Friday and in cabaret like I'm doing my thing but those are the but now I'm doing the same exact thing you know you fast forward what now, you know, close to 30 years, more than 30 years. Yeah, about, yeah, close to 30 years later, I'm doing the same thing. It's just on a different stage. Yeah. We do alongside each other on many occasions, you know, we've been working side by side for 30 years now. And in my experience,

like I said, those moments were so fun. For him, they were just full of pressure, right, to deliver, to get the money, to pay his brother, walk home, and not yet robbed on the way on the home. You know, these are things I'm like, do, do, do, do. Life is amazing. I get to earn. I, with my money, I bought myself a Game Boy. As a young man, again, these are valuable lessons.

So I'm looking at hardships, something I can always conquer. There's nothing that I can do where I feel like, again, this is my diagnosis of my brother. He can diagnose himself. But I feel like with him, he's now at an age, you know, like inside out, I had joy running my ship, you know, and I feel like he had a little bit of sadness and anger running his ship. And I think that's really just not a difference of what's at heart, but really where we were at what age and how life just shook us. Do you think that if the roles were reversed and you were the older one, then you would be operating from sort of? of some sadness and fight and pain a little bit? Or is your personality different?

Do you take on, would you take that shit on differently than he would? Because everyone deals with emotion different. Everyone deals with that hardship, that pressure, whatever differently, you know. Yeah, I don't want to imply that I didn't have a tough upbringing either, you know. Right, right, right. And I think weren't. But, yeah, I think I would. Our life did do 180 around the time when he joined dancing with.

the stars you know then yes i'm skipping a lot of stuff and we you know we grew up at that time but he kind of elevated himself into another stratosphere first so he went to hollywood los angeles i mean these are these are places we not dream about because we competed we traveled not to paint a picture that we were never been outside of new york city we were cold we understood what's up but But to be, you know, to be on American television and be yourself and be yourself, that's the thing. You can be. There's plenty of people that join, changed their names, became someone else. But to be able to be highlighted in front of this country that adopted us that took us in, it was a full circle moment of awesome gratitude.

But really the fact that now, Maxim Chmerkowski, the kid that was laughed at, that was so. told to go back to Russia, even though he was from Ukraine in school. And the kid is now, you know, in the houses of millions of people in this country. So I think he found, I think he found a swagger at that point. And so we kind of shifted, I became an adult, if you will, and the older brother while he became this, you know, I think he found his youthfulness and his spirit and his, like, adventure. And he, I feel like he didn't have time. to grow up in his teenage years and he did it when he came out to LA and rediscovered himself.

Pretty accurate there, Max? Yeah, no, 100%. I actually felt like, I actually felt like, yeah, I just shifted my, I did it backwards. 14 to 25 was what people, what I'd witnessed later in life, what people experienced in their late 20s to mid-30s. And then after that, case and point, all of these youngans are now with families and young kids and sort of like studying that part of life. I, however, went full-tilt work mode, 14 onwards, skipped through everything teenage years completely. Everything up until 21.

And then I turned pro in my ball of dance industry. I even skipped over this whole category called amateurs. It's not amateur by the trade, but it's like after under 21 age category before you turn pro. There's a whole group of like for your entire 30s. You can compete in this category. And it doesn't separate you in quality. It just separates. There's more participants in this amateur category than there are in professionals because that's already like an older generation.

So McCoy, I just looked too mature for this category. I had very kind of like iffy results. Once I turned pro, and I was amongst these big grown man who were about, you know, 15 years older, I stood out. And I stood out well, and that's when I kind of like, oh, so I'm that person. So I really had this grown outlook on life. He's talking about buying Game Boys. And yes, that was also what I saw. but I was very well aware of our family being on food stamps.

And so, like, we were getting X amount of, you know, funny money that we would then exchange in the lowest sort of of the grocery stores that were accepted, you know, so there was a lot of hustle going on. So I saw the value of money. I understood that you can't just go and buy this thing, you know, whereas he felt that he was rightfully so growing up as, the kid that, you know, has these sort of motivational factors in front of them. So I'm looking at this to be the case with my son now and I'm like having the two,

two options. What would I rather? No, I don't want him to know hard labor or even like difficult labor before it's his reality, you know? Like, why would I, why would I give him a little bit of what, you know, others don't have? It is their reality. So what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to raised a level-headed kid who at the time when he's a child does child things. In the time youth does young adult things. So I feel like that's my

focus is not to skip over. And I let him out. This is where my sort of like focus on my kids kind of ends is that you know, twins. We've all seen that movie Schwarzenegger and you know. And so that's in when young Schwarzenegger's character

comes out of this island. where he lived and thrived and was, you know, engineered to be the most perfect human. And so I feel like when I let my, I can believe it, I now have three boys growing up. So when I let my boys out into the world, it'll be in like young 20s and it'll be like this way. Here you go, my son. Now you got Jiu-Jitsu, AP science. You're like ahead of class and everything. Beautiful six-four muscle built, you know, everything.

But you know what I'm saying? Like, this is your dream. This is your fantasy. But most importantly, as I wish for him to be, you know, I listen to Val and no wonder in our relationship, I do look up to him a lot because I feel like that's what I was missing. I did skip over the stage thing and it did, you know, it made me do things at a time when I shouldn't have. And it feels like that bravada that he described as like usefulness that I found, which he's right. it was also the time when I could have applied different things. And, you know, I feel like that youthful, I'm saying that what it means is like during your teenage years, you have the license to fuck things up.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. I was doing that, feeling that happy for that type of like, look, I'm just being free me, right? And I was looking at them and Val and his friends that were growing up being that way in their young 20s. but I wasn't registering that I was a 29-year-old man feeling that free. And I'm not saying I was doing childish things, but you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, I'm in L.A. Nobody here knows me.

I'm just going to have fun. No one here needs me. Right. My dad, who's an entrepreneurial spirit, very supportive father, who's never danced in his life. He saw, you know, Max come home. He was assisting one of the studios. And at 16, long story short, they decided to open up their own dance studio. my dad's never taught the only information is coming from his 16 year old son and he will take care

of all the manager i don't know anything business we opened up a dance studio in which my dad was the administrator my brother was the the coach and i was like the star pupil you know it's like and this kind of relationship evolved so i was close to the stress i was close to the thing i you know but Again, I didn't have the responsibility at the open house. Of course not. You're six years younger. I mean, you know, you can let that go. You don't have to take on that responsibility if you didn't want to, you know. I'm a good kid who volunteered to take on a lot of it. Yeah.

But I didn't exactly. I didn't have to. Right. And I think when, when again, fast forward 16, you know, nine years later, when he found him after building a very successful dance program, New Jersey and then I then became a part of I mean and then it just evolved into a big thing he for the first time moved to LA and was no longer responsible for all of that and allowed himself like teenage license of you know just you know how LA is I'm Jorge Ramos and I'm Paola Ramos together we're launching The Moment a new podcast about what it means

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I bought a huge place in one of the best places and were exactly what I wanted to be. I was by myself a forever home. Then the next, I think, what was it? Two years, two and a half years. I spent 22 days in that house. But, you know, obviously Val lived there. We had three of my other friends occupied three other bedrooms. And it, you know, in the quintessential, like one of us made it ahead of time.

and so now kind of like everybody come come with i don't know if you remember entourage was a really popular yeah yeah it's in the city of for for men yeah um we all watched it and again we all dream like we're city kid immigrants you know we dream about uh making it and then making it so that you bring yeah bring you lift up everyone else around you yeah because you see that we have access to seeing it but we never had access to being part of it whether it's not nightlife, high-end, you know, food industry. Yeah. Any kind of like, we were the entertainment, but we were not the guest in that case.

So because we were a great quality caliber entertainment. And we saw a lot of, we had access to see what it's like. But anyway, the second I started making it, you know, my grandma's building knows me. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's that notoriety. So there's a little bit of that pressure. I definitely immediately felt like I wanted to win more than anything. It was the pressure of trying to win dancing stars.

And in this format, dancing stars, the more you try your hardest, the more it's kind of like, it's almost like not. It's a lot of things. A fun thing with that, though, is like he said, he bought this forever home and he was like, wow, you got to, you know, for you to live there. And I did live there. But I was very conscious and we had a conversation.

I was like, I didn't make it, though. You made him. I didn't find this. There's no reason why I should feel the sensation of being in this home. I should feel the sensation of where I'm at, which is not the position to live in this home. But again, we grew up in such an environment where it's what's mine is ours. Yeah. And I was trying to tell him like, you're about how I feel.

In this sense, this is your question, the very first, like the difference. And I was like, bro, I'm telling you, you can do so much better from a platform where you're not stressed, you're comfortable, you have a big room to stretch. You can walk around, you know, downstairs, down to your own stairs in your own, you know what I'm saying? Because we were flabbergasted, we have a bridge inside the house. I remember Val and I With the two of us I was like bro We have a bridge inside the house

I had them this like Some people have elevators Like it was like the same from But they take shrooms And they're in the Vegas room And they're like these chairs They're all so right Yeah

Yeah yeah We're just like We couldn't believe it life made Where were where is this house Jersey Fortly shout out Fortly New Jersey Right off a beautiful area Fortly bluff

look in the city, you know what I'm saying? Like, right off of Hudson, you know, right next to Washington Bridge, you know. I just got back from New Jersey, like two days ago. I was in Short Hills doing a movie out there. Fun fact, what Lee was the original Hollywood before Hollywood took on the movie industry. Oh, really? Yeah, it still has, I think, I believe, Charlie Chopin Studios or whatever was not short. It really actually, Engelwood, well, there's a Ridgewood, Engelwood, but that,

area yes right outside the city we hawk in new jersey which is a neighbor in town is a place where first shot hamilton is a yeah in new jersey where i went to high school a home place of franks and natra you know this i think jersey needs to be rebranded a little i don't get it dude because again i've been to new jersey but i remember hung out there and i granted i was i was staying at the hill a hilton you know just working but i would go to the coast every time i could get there because I love the fish and just I love the beach and the leaves were changing and I drive around I'm like dude new jersey's the fucking shit it's beautiful it's I loved it in fact I have so many friends and family in the city I didn't even go into the city one time except to go to see the games I was like it's and it was an hour drive not that bad I'm like I don't want to go into the city I like enjoy the space in the beauty of New Jersey right now and the foliage and everything no again love L.A., love L.A. can be the weather. But I also really do find a huge deep and rooted connection with East Coast and that tribe area. Like, I'm not going to claim, you know, that New Yorker,

you know what I'm saying, some of our friends who never left. We did move to Jersey. We did have this sort of like out of the town kind of proximity. Whatever. I claim. But that area, period, It's just beautiful. Every time I landed, like, I do feel the moisture. Yeah, yeah. Home. So let's go back for a second. Just dancing.

You know what I mean? Like, how did this happen? How did you guys even get into this? You know, obviously started in Ukraine. Your father doesn't dance. You would feel like there would be some sort of, you know, familial situation. Maybe your mom, but. We practiced this one.

I'm going to take this in the beginning. And then we'll hand it off to VAL. So quickly. Story. At that point so that I can. Yeah, yeah. I got you. Quick story is that my two, my, my, my, my, 19-year-old parents had a kid in Soviet Union.

And at 23, my father lost his father. Our grandpa passed away. So Val never met him. He named after him, Val. But I was three. My parents are 23. This is a lower and blue-collar community. you know uh so it's 23 year old pops mom three year old kid and our grandma and they're all in one

one and a half room apartment and that's how we grew up val was born in that apartment that's where we immigrated to from so we we grew up really like this type of closet space and it's not to cry about it i remember massive room i remember val and i had no like i didn't feel tight not until i visited ukraine back many, many decades later, I was like, brought the apartment is Matt type. But anyway, so at four years old,

they gave me into the... While I'm in a jacuzzi in his house in New Jersey. Right, right. Yeah, yeah. But I was four years old, and my parents, again, my father's father

just passed away. So I believe that a lot of things that he felt were good parenting came from immediate surroundings. Some people took him on that there, wings, you know, there were a hard man. There were, you know, man, man, you know, they were like, hey, you got to like slap them once in a while, just prophylactically.

So they know with the respect, you know, like some of that. I'm being facetious, but a little bit of that too. I don't mean, you know. They gave him one rule and he took it on and he's like, look, if you limit their free time, there's less chance they'll get in trouble. And so he's like, perfect, I can do that. Let's just, you know, put him in everything. And that four years old, they gave me into school of a state.

education. And it was like sing, dance, eat with knife and fork, open doors for girls, that type of you know, grown-out, Prince, your board finishing school type of thing. Finishing school, right. I remember vividly somebody coming in and pointing finger at like

three of us, four of us, and they spoke to our parents and they said, hey, if you want them to dance, specific program for dance, ballroom dancing is called. And now I remember they pointed at four boys because there's a huge shortage of boys and dance in general

and this is partner dancing and so that's how when ballroom career started at five years old I wasn't actually talented to be picked that was just a boy it was just fit

that was it he'll do let's do it yeah and then a case and point until we immigrated I didn't really have a good career it was a very sort of like probably dance is not going to be sting

you know did you love it though no I swam I played tennis and I soccer and chemistry and biology major, all of that stuff. But it was like, and dance because my parents said, go, and I went. That was me. Val, this is what I meant. So now we immigrating.

And yes, he did start in Ukraine, but very basic stuff. And nothing to write home about. Just one little thing, little chicken dancing. But when we immigrated, we landed in the week one, our parents decided, Okay, so we have this 14-year-old who looks like he's about to be in trouble with no English, nothing. And we have this 8-year-old. We've got to apply them immediately. And they thought dance was it because I was already doing it long enough.

For some reason, Pops thought that I had some potential. And so Valemax went straight into a dance school in Brooklyn that I was pointed out to be the best. It was like in Brooklyn, you know, Bright Merriam, we went. And the next day, okay? In fact, the next, this is Friday, Saturday. It's a local in-studio competition. They give Val, who's eight, a partner who dances. Val doesn't know the steps yet.

He's eight, he never danced the steps, he just, whatever. He smiled and did some kind of little cute stepy thing. The girl did steps around him, they won't. Lenslight, but no company. And so Val literally never lost ever since, in general terms speaking of, like, he was. was that type of prodigy. I cannot make this up. He didn't start because somebody said, yo, he's a fantastic dancer. They said, look, he smiled through the entire competition.

He gave a hero fox, as they say. They're like, this level of confidence is just bananas. And so immediately he was the hottest project of like a ballroom, you know, boy. And it was that. So that's how he started dancing. I started dancing back then. And in the U.S., I was honestly, personally, was very hopeful that it would end. But when I walked into Dan Studio, this is where I'll throw it to him, is that for me, it was because I didn't speak English.

If I spoke English, Val spoke in two weeks, he was fluent as an eight-year-old. I, nine months later, honestly, was probably going through some kind of teenage depression because I was like, I can't understand anything. It's horrible. I don't have any of this communication.

But then, as it turns out, felt the same. And it felt like, although I was very shy, did not have this type of experience when I just got to that dance studio. And, you know, I was in the back of the class, thought that I was really bad, you know, all of that stuff.

So it took me a second. But I felt more comfortable in a dense space than I was outside of it because the language barrier. Right. And then the Russian restaurants, they're getting a little bit of cash in return for my dancing. made me feel like there's value to this.

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When did you begin to sort of fall in love with it when you found some success in it? Or you still hate it? Besides passion and pursuing your craft, there's also a relationship with earning money. exactly uh i hey yeah he's right i try i'm gonna tell you when i get that dude 100 i will tell you when i'm enjoyed dance i started in 2016 when when val and i had a max and val tour we called it and we called our way and it was our first national stage dance production and we decided not to just do the chacha we did that for like 20 years already uh we decided to write our own story we had a fantastic

gentleman that we found that became our friend and wrote this incredible stage production for dances that's never been sort of done before in that capacity. We told the story. And we told our story coming to Brooklyn, coming of age, immigration, you know, things that were important to us. And then that's when I realized, I'm like, I cannot believe it. I spend at that time, well, I mean, obviously, almost all of my life. I'm 44 years old.

I've only, I danced for 40 years, just moving, some kind of movement. And most of it has been professional and most of it has been moneymaking. Most of it has been about that type of exchange. I enjoyed starting 2016. And last thing that I enjoyed was this last summer with Val and I, part of Saver, which is another production that we helped put together. I mean, those type of formats where it's not judged, it's not, it's not max

well it's more of an expression of something personal you know from an artistic standpoint rather than you know punching the clock collecting a paycheck look I'm an actor and I've been doing it for 26 seven years right and I've had a very successful career

doing it made a lot of money and all that and I've loved every part that I've done for different reasons but not necessarily because it has been creative fulfillment. Like, this is how I support my family. Do I love being on set and being in the world? Like, yeah, sure.

But if I done something in my life as an actor where I'm like, that was like fucking a true expression, you know, nah. You know, because I'm doing other people's words. You know, again, you're an actor for hire. You've got to pay for your kids shit. So, you know, it is what it is. But so I get it. Yeah.

When that something comes along where you are, it's true expression, it's just creativity and the money is great, but it doesn't really fucking matter because you're with your brother and you're actually telling some sort of a story rather than just, you know. But that was the most special opportunity for me in dance so far every time that it seems like here. I mean, look, I'm not going to, we both have fantastic moments outside of our relationship. I've also done to do Broadway shows that I was a, you know, what a privilege to be a part experience. You know, I starred those shows.

So that was even more the marquee, the lights, all of that stuff. So, you know, but you asked about when I enjoyed it to the level that I'm like, you know, at the top of my head, it's always our shows together now. Yeah. You know. And, Val, are you the same way? Yeah. I mean, my relationship with dance has evolved through the.

last 30 years you know it started from um you know like like max said i won my first competition so because you do a lot of reflecting later on in your life you grow up and you're like uh how did i get here and why did i get here and so you take your back and so one of the questions like dance why did i pursue dance is it because i was good at it or was it because i loved it my biggest like I was always when people talk about who's really passionate about dance truly to me it isn't the guys winning is the guys all the way in the first second third rounds that get left behind that still show up still show up so they're not feeding their vanity or their ego they just doing it for the love of the game and and so I traced it all

the way back I never even got a chance to see if I loved the game you know because I was And now I'm like, well, I like this feeling. It's giving me attention. It's giving me this. It's giving me all these like, you know, vanity points. And so I do it. But dance for us was a sport. We competed in ballroom dance.

This wasn't my artistic expression. My artistic expression. I joined. I started playing violin when I was five, played in orchestras. And so music was my expression. Dance, believe it or not, was my sport. You know, if it wasn't dance, I would be maybe playing ball or playing some other thing.

You know, that was the level. There was this pressure of just winning. Just winning. I just wanted to win. And so you're trying to come to, comp to come to come to trophy trophy. And I'm like, the accolades are coming in and I'm killing it. But then I started teaching.

I started to teach to make money because when you win these competitions, it's like, you know, it's like a. no offense a rock paper scissors contest there's no budget like you get it that's what i'm saying like how do you make your money as a dancer you know i mean i know dancing with the stars is going to pay you well i know that will then propel you with some notoriety to go do some other shit you know what i mean there's endorsements there's all that stuff but as a as just someone who's a dancer i mean how do you how do you make a living as a dancer so dancing with the stars is now when we were doing it there was no prospect of these uh how do you may you you you you you

Open up a dance studio. You do. You have to teach to dance, you know. And I had an issue with that because LeBron James didn't start playing ball because he wanted to coach the Cavaliers one day. You know, I wanted to play and get paid for playing better than everybody. And for us, those type of numbers didn't exist. But there was a huge community that was pursuing this out of pride

and out of mastery of a craft they were passionate about. And that community is gorgeous. It's a beautiful community. It spans way outside of America. Throughout Europe, Eastern Europe, Western Europe, Asia, South Africa has a big ballroom dance community. And that allowed us to see the world when our parents had no money to see it. But we got sponsored to go to events because we were representing America. So I have no regret in that sense.

Then joining Dancing with the Stars. my relationship with dance evolved where I wasn't trying to win trophies anymore even though I really wanted to win dancing with the stars but I wanted to show off and continue to grow as an artist right so I started to learn other styles

like contemporary and jazz and even a form of hip hop not claiming any one I'm a ballroom dance but I have now acquired the range of motion and movement the vocabulary beyond just strictly ballroom,

which has expanded my ability to perform. It became a lot more of an artistic expression than just a job or just, you know, who can dance the fastest, hardest, hardest, strongest, spin the fat, you know, so... Dancing with the Stars, are you incentivized to keep continuing winning in the competition

because do you get paid for each show? if you're out if you're if you're the downstance the contract like it's just a lump sum bang here you go if you're out the first day day you're fucking done that's it before beginning stages it used to be different now it's just for pros is basically

a salary once you're you get a weekly salary and it lasts the week this season but I want to answer your question differently it's that over the this is season 33 and over the almost 20 years that the show's been on on has been around and kind of cyphal you know see seeping through a lot of

professional dancers movers performance and all that they're they're now finding people that fit all of the criteria a lot of check or checkpoints and so it becomes about the kind of person you are the kind of dance and artists you are do you have the motivation to you know be on the show stay on the right way so they shouldn't worry about you know paying your certain way if you're a dancer maybe you have to you know entice the celebrities to be participants but for professional dancer dancing with the start should be the pinnacle of your financially uh uh uh successful career you know there are other things you hang your head on from i don't know you know you know, artistic expression standpoint, but for the personality that I go to sleep with, that I

make my life on, like the fundamentals of like we talked about, you also have to survive. This world is best-paced moving, and you have to survive. And now you're putting kids out in there from that perspective. The ecosystem has changed as well, right? So, like shows like Dancing with the Stars, so you think if you dance, world of dance, have amplified and put dance at the forefront, therefore inspiring other generations and other people. And, you know, there's a reason why

have the lineup on Dancing with the Stars is Chigvinsv, Chmikovsky, Svchenko, you know, it's Eastern European guys. Well, then you have Derek, who's an anomaly in his own right. He was American kids adopted by, a world champion who took him and brought him to England. And England is kind of our mecca of ballroom dance.

That's where the top teachers are, the top studio, you know, everything. So he was this talented kid that got exposed to the top of the line information, information that Max and Val had to work months for, to save up, to buy a ticket to learn from. Or hopefully, if this teacher ever does come to New York, which it probably won't because, again, it's like the Jamaican bobsled team. No one in America, R.H was actually competing seriously. But if they do come out of here, we got to hustle and get that lesson. So that information with that extraordinary talent created C and all that.

Quote Malcolm Caldwell, but like on some level. We are a product of that too. Just like Max said earlier, he got chosen just for. for being a guy. Yeah. You know? They're boys. And so everybody, there are, you know, our pits and our highs, they're all there to serve a purpose.

And we are here not just because of luck, but also because of luck. Yeah. Oh, well, there's luck in everything that we do. Life is just filled with luck, whether you believe in luck or not, you know what I mean? How can you not? Yeah. I mean, forget about just career, everything, everything. I mean, I look back on my childhood and, or even in my teens and 20s growing up in L.A.

And thinking, holy fuck, I got lucky. The things that I would do in the situations that I put myself in, you know, just being stupid. I was like, God damn, dude, I got lucky, just lucky. We got luckier, if I may say so. And it's not a comparison. But I feel like now, right where we are now, and looking at Ukraine and that situation that it was coming here since before we left. And the reason why we immigrated to begin with is because our parents were a young couple who had two boys in a house who were going to be enlisted one way or another. And so, you know, I very publicly left that place from being a judge on World of Dance.

And most of the Dancing with the Stars cast are now enlisted and have been since the beginning world of dance cast. So we're looking at dancers, man, fellow, you know, Ukrainian natives. Like, how lucky are Max and Val to have left in the 90s that made all this life where we can, by the way, also somehow help and influence and speak on behalf of and all this stuff? but not have to be right now at the front line. Isn't that the definition of luck? Yeah. You know, and so, like, I look at it like everything I do is a bonus, you know, everything that comes my way or comes out of me or out of my hands.

Oh, how unlucky am I if I only had that job. Yeah. No, that's not the luck or not the lack of growth, you know. So that's how, like, my perspectives change a little bit and how I, look at things like luck for example of course that's that's a great point i mean we can we can do a whole other podcast on on ukraine you know right now let's do it let's do it after next yeah after tomorrow no no no i'm saying yeah that's what i mean let's think come down let's wait yeah see where this is going i'm jorge ramos and i'm paula ramos together we're launching

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podcast hey sis what if i could promise you you never had to listen to a condescending finance bro tell you how to manage your money again welcome to brown ambition this is the hard part when you pay down those credit cards if you haven't gotten to the bottom of why you were racking up credit or turning to credit cards you may just recreate the same problem a year from now when you do feel like you are bleeding from these high interest rates i would start shopping shopping for a debt consolidation loan, starting with your local credit union, shopping around online, looking for some online lenders because they tend to have fewer fees and be more affordable. Listen, I am not here to judge. It is so expensive in these streets. I 100% can see

how in just a few months you can have this much credit card debt when it weighs on you. It's really easy to just like stick your head in the sand. It's nice and dark in the sand. Even if it's scary, it's not going to go away just because you're avoiding it. And in fact, it may get even worse. For more judgment-free money advice, listen to Brown Ambition on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I want to talk about dance, sexuality, sex, your wives, the heat. Because obviously, you know, when it's your job, it's your job. But there is a chemistry when you dance. obviously even even as an actor there's chemistry that you have with people in chemistry that

you don't you know um but it is close quarters it's sexy it's hot i mean how first of all you met your wives did you both think your wives on dancing with the stars okay you both did i met on broadway no you met on broadway and then she joined in dancing and that's where we blossom okay got it but then val you met your wife on dancing yeah Okay. So we'll get into that for the second. When you are dancing, you have hot partners and they're just your partners. How do you keep, how do you separate those things? I know you're married now. We get it. I get it. I get it. But I'm saying like you weren't married, you know, at some point in your life. Like how do you separate those things? And could you marry a non dancer who doesn't get it? Yeah. I mean, we just. spoke about that with Peter. I'm not going to give you a whole answer, because I don't know.

I just feel like you're numb to the touch. And someone like Val and I started, as we were kids, our close proximity doesn't exist. Like, you can be in my space and I wouldn't know, whereas a lot of people, like, when you're about, you know, three feet, you know, for me, it's like you're too far. But for some people, it's like, why are you all up in my stuff, you know? So things outside of that, we have a really, like, really good looking couple that we're friends with, of course, but he just, and we hang out a lot. And they, he's very jealous, you know, this man. And he should be.

She's also very attractive woman. Are they dancers? No, no. Oh, no. We were driving back with Peter and we're talking about this. And like, you know, like, why am I not? You know, what's not? I'm also very jealous, man.

But just, you know, that type of job. given the trust in my spouse. Like, I just don't have that, you know. If she's being groped, yeah, but when she dances with her male partner, I just don't have that emotion at all. Even if he's groping her, but just dancing groping? Yeah, I could see that it's not, that it's not that's no of a right. In the hand, like on the thing and all of a sudden his palm is in her vagina and you're like,

okay, that's cool. Listen, if it's a lift that's dope, like yes, but if it's unnecessary. And you can do it without your hand in that space. But just don't do that. Look, I'm just trying to say that we don't, you know, Kirstie Ali told me, oh my God, you're so flirty. And I was like, what do you mean in rehearsal? And it's on tape.

And she's like, yeah, look where your hand is. I'm like, my hand is where? She's like, all of my back. I'm like, your gravity is, you know, down. I got to use two hands sometimes to move. It's not because I love you that much. I don't get to move you. And so, yeah.

There's a, there's a few things that play, right? So number one, like, just to relate it to your world, when you shoot a scene, even like an intimate scene, so many takes, you know, because when I watch a movie, I'm like, oh, I could do that. No, but can you do that 100,000 times in front of all these strangers on cue, play your body to this camera, and I'll do it again, play your, you know, acting is way more than just. I showed up and I was my now they captured and the project's done. So the same thing with, I mean, there's so much idle time. That's when you can gauge like, okay, I have a problem with that. I don't have a problem with the dancing. I have a problem that you love to spend three hours at lunch together doing no dancing.

Yeah. You know, I think that's more of a... But that's not the same proximity. Yeah, but it's also the intimacy, the intimacy of rehearsal and dancing. and the sort of chemistry and attraction that you almost have to have given whatever dance it is because I'm sure there's certain dances that are much more romantic or sensual, you know.

And then that three-hour lunch right after you've sweat your asses off and exchange a couple fluids, then you're like, yeah, geez, okay. I want to be like, you know, I want to tell you all the max answer, but there's a duality to it. It's a little bit of both.

It's a balance and act partner that you can talk to. and vent to and be reassured from then it's cool but if you don't have that then yeah it's an issue it's a big issue yeah no for sure without it i mean look there's a reason why dancing with the stars over the last 33 years have produced relationships you know that have gone good and bad i you know i'm working i'm just working with nicky bella you know and she her dude i think they're on the rocks but her dude was was was dance with you guys as a pro i forget his name art of art yeah yeah yeah you know i mean so it happens like you know you're it's it's a hot world that you guys live in no sure but it's also like you know for us and i'm going to speak for most of us it's a job that go into if we're single

and you know i definitely went into some seasons open-minded you know let's you know whatever it will be will it will be but i personally had one relationship out of 17 seasons that i It was very short-lived and it was a mistake all the way in the beginning. So you're going to say that I didn't have attracted partners? No, I just didn't have enough time to even care or think about this. And like Val said, a lot of idle time, a lot of OTFs and sound bites and reshoots and camera blockings and, you know, stress and nerves and competition for it. You know what I'm saying?

And now you have, and you're hurt and sore and she's now on your shoulder crying because her boyfriend husband, fiance, ex, just showed up because they're upset with some, you know, like it's just so much stuff. Yeah, the most important thing is that I love dance. I love, I can't enjoy dance without you being a part of it. My perspective, respectfully, is yes, in your direction, but I have an intention. I need you. I need you to be great.

I need you to be happy. I need you to be in love. I need you to be because I want my dance to be what I know. So we need to be on the same page. We need to, you know, do all of that. So what do I need to do for that? If you've got a significant other, we're going to go on a day. I'm going to really clearly try to communicate to him or her that now loves dance.

And partner to execute it at the level that I'm used to executing at. Have you had issues with, you know, like with your spouses dancing with dudes where you might have, like, actually felt even tingees of jealousy? Yeah. You have. Yeah. I think it's such a taboo thing and people catch feelings about it. So I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings because that insecurity I feel, too.

I don't feel it anymore, but I've had situations. But even this season, you know, my wife, right now is partnered with Joey, who is a bachelor or ex-previous bachelor. He had just got engaged. He has a beautiful fiance. They have an amazing relationship. But he is a frontrunner on this season of Dancing with the Stars. That's on fire on social media.

It's incredible virality right now. Yeah, yeah. People are not nice, you know? And even though there are no thoughts anywhere in the air from Kelsey or Joe. or Jenna or Val, but there is a lot of commentary in the comment section. And so all it is, it just takes a lot of self-discipline and trust and good communicate. Yeah, totally.

And those with the comments and all that, such all that's fucking bullshit stuff. Like, you know, I mean, it might give you a little bit of an, I never, if I do read bad shit, you just can't ever take that in. These are just, I'm here. And so from like a human level, it's weird. but from a professional dancer level who has dedicated 30 years of life kind of telling stories through this through this medium i'm standing there telling this grown-ass man to grab my wife like a fucking man like a little bit the story of a tango is one that isn't

pg disney it's a very it's a very adult story Because the same comment section is going to be calling out for a shitty performance that was missing, but passion and lacked some kind of, you know, but when you presented that dance, they're like, oh, is there a problem in their relationship? No, it's right. So just, and I thought, regardless of what I'm working with my brother or I'm working with my significant other or somebody else, you know, there are a lot of relationships that are in play. But at the forefront of everybody's responsibility, if I have anything to do with it, is the work. Is the work. That's it. People are going to pay money to see this work.

Yeah. Shut up. Yeah. That's it. It's not kind of like how I navigate that. You know, and if I'm catching feelings, you know, if I'm an honest husband, I'm not going to catch feelings. Right. That are irresponsible.

I'm going to catch other feelings. Chemistry, I think camaraderie. I think chemistry isn't always sexual. No, of course not. Yeah. Between teenagers, there's a camarader. Teams have chemistry. And for me, back to the inception of my relationship with dance, which was sport, my part

who was a girl, was my teammate. That's my guy. You know, she just had a girl. We cry together, we'd wait together. We lose to. together. We have never slept together. When that rumba comes on, you better present that couple like it has so much passion because otherwise the lineup of judges that like it was less than. And even more so on that topic, that's why I think ballroom dance is so good for kids.

It's because it's the only thing where you can create camaraderie, a healthy relationship with the opposite sex. Every sport is so divisive if you have a locker room with guys, girls, guys, girl, everything is here. There's few sports where they integrate and really learn how to collaborate together. So in a society where we're trying to break, you know, teach kids how to respect each other's space. The irony about us being in each other's space since I was eight years old is that I am comfortable enough to respect it and to pick up and gauge energy. I am comfortable lack of communication lack of knowledge

lack of understanding no it's so true especially when you talk about getting in that personal space you guys don't have that everything is right here you know eye contact there's a confidence

that gets built with what it is that you guys have done you know from such a young age that's where that sort of bravado comes in you know what I mean that's where that sort of

yeah fuck off I'm the man comes in this has been a blast you guys so much fun I'll be checking you out for sure Thank you all, Lord. Thank you, guys. All right.

Later, guys. That was fun. These guys are cool. I probably should have been a dancer, you know. My hips are very flexible. But it's just fun to hear that world. They gave long, very good answers. There were a few things I wanted to get to that I didn't.

I just wanted to get to the sort of inside of dancing with the stars. There's got to be some crazy shit that, goes on in there. Anyway, um, I got to go. I love you. Peace. The Super Secret Bestie Club podcast season four is here. And we're locked in. That means more juicy cheesement. Terrible love advice. Evil spells to cast on your ex. No, no, no, no. We're not doing that this season. Oh. Well, this season we're leveling up. Each episode will feature a special Bestie and you're not going to want to miss it. My name is Curley. And I'm Maya, get in here!

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The Good Stuff podcast, season two, takes a deep look into One Tribe Foundation, a nonprofit fighting suicide in the veteran community. September is National Suicide Prevention Month, so join host Jacob and Ashley Schick as they bring you to the front lines

of One Tribe's mission. One Tribe, save my life. Twice. Welcome to season two of The Good Stuff. Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Let's start with a quick puzzle. The answer is Ken Jennings' appearance on The Puzzler with A.J. Jacobs. The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land? Jeopardy Truthers believe in. I guess they would be conspiracy theorists. That's right.

They gave you the answers and you still blew it. The Puzzler. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast.