Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Brothers, Bops and Bangers with Nat and Alex Wolff

Episode Date: December 2, 2024

From performing to small crowds to selling out venues, Pop Rock duo Nat and Alex have come a long way on stage and on-screen! The siblings admit they have their fair share of brotherly battles, but no...thing can come between this DNA sharing duo.  Find out what they DO argue about, life on the road with Billie Eilish, and what their future as actors may hold.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an IHeart podcast. September is a great time to travel, especially because it's my birthday in September, especially internationally. Because in the past, we've stayed in some pretty awesome Airbnbs in Europe. Did we've one in France, we've one in Greece,
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Starting point is 00:00:32 I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians, artists, and activists to bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. The Moment is a space for the conversations
Starting point is 00:00:51 we've been having us father and daughter for years. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos on the I-Heart Radio app, podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Introducing IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. It grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned
Starting point is 00:01:19 and angry patients. You think you're finally like in the right hands. You're just not. Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack,
Starting point is 00:01:43 where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story. Does anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row.
Starting point is 00:02:17 How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.
Starting point is 00:02:49 And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling revelry. No, no. Sibling reverie. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling revelry. That's good. Oliver Routledge Hudson here to talk to you about life, love,
Starting point is 00:03:23 and anything else in between. You know, I should do, I should do a call-in show, you know, like, I should do like a, like a new kind of a love line. That would be fun. That would be fun. That was a great show, by the way. Mikey. Corolla and Mike. Mike actually is married to Bianca, who I worked with on Rules of Engagement.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Mike is the man. They live in Texas right now. Anyway. I don't know about me. Short intro because I've got Nat and Alex Wolfe in the waiting room. They are brothers. They are a part. rock duo from New York City.
Starting point is 00:03:58 They're actors, their siblings, you know, they're musicians. So they probably have had fights. You know, I was, you know, Chris Robinson was my brother-in-law for a minute. And, you know, I know what that's like when you're famous musicians. And you've got to work together all the time. There's got to be some tension that happens. There may, maybe, maybe not.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Maybe not. And then Alex, Alex was an hereditary. Okay. that is one of my favorite horror films my kids' favorite horror films they should not probably have ever watched it but they did anyway let's uh let's bring them and we can get into everything hey what's up man thanks for having fun thank you for coming on boys where are you guys you in l.a we're in nance house we're in new york city and we just got in about like 40 minutes ago from the bus oh my god you're opening for billy right yeah it's been amazing
Starting point is 00:04:53 Okay, there's so many things to talk about, but let's start there. I mean, how give me the, I want to know how that even happened, you know, because that's pretty, that's pretty rad. I mean, how did that even come about? We're trying to figure out how it happened still. I went to this academy museum gala, and I had never met her before, but I knew she, I was obviously a huge fan of her, but also knew we both have Tourette's. And so does my dad.
Starting point is 00:05:22 and I knew from like there was this interview of her on David Letterman where she was ticking and she said and he was like what is that and she said oh sorry that's my Tourette's and so I ran into this thing and I was like wait you have Tourette's and she's like you have Tourette's and she had heard that I had Tourette's or something and then we ended up bonding on that and then Alex me and her went we all met we all saw each other again at some party and we ended up getting Alex and I got a lot of trouble we got a lot of trouble we got like take somebody took a picture of us because they thought that Alex looked like this other guy that was still yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yeah anyway we became great friends and went to die there and it was all great and no one got in any trouble okay free party hey yeah yeah we were falsely accused that's the truth we were falsely accused of being people that were standing on couches taking pictures it wasn't us. Oh, got it, got it. Someone else had early hair. Got it. And then they just connected.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Yeah, we all connected. Then we all went and like had it. We all jammed together and played music and, um, and, uh, Coachella, Philly was like, I haven't ever jammed with people. I haven't felt us excited by music in a long time. And we were like, neither have we. And we just, and we all went to Coachella. And then she asked us to go on tour. We were like, fuck yeah, of course. And then she just, and she also produced one of our songs for a new album and stuff like yeah he's the best so how long you guys been in a band together since the womb since forever i mean it's been i mean because you are a nickelodeon right we were in a band way before nicolodeon even though we were really young we were um eight
Starting point is 00:07:08 the or the movie was when i was six and now was nine we'd already been playing together for like since i was a baby that's that's like my first memories is is playing music yeah okay let's let's go let's go back for a second all right because you were then before then yeah yeah yeah let's go to like past life stuff past life so who do you think you were in past life it's kind of a good question actually no but you grew you guys you guys grew up first of where did you grow up we grew up in new york city you did and where did you guys grow up are you guys LA you grew up in LA yeah but dude maybe we'll come see you because my whole family is going to be there kate's there mom's there. I mean, like, everyone is in New York. Oh, that'd be so fun. I've paid a few
Starting point is 00:07:53 10th. She's the best. She is the best. So was show business, was music, was this something that was just from the get? How did your parents sort of navigate this, you know, growing up kind of in it, my sister wanted to do movies out the womb. My mom was like, no, this is a fucked up business you're going to wait you're going to be eight you're going to graduate high school then you can do whatever the hell you want to do so how did that all work out my parents said you want love from us right so you got to get the music you got to get into movies or else you get no love or if you kicked out of my dad's a jazz musician my mom as an actress and a writer and stuff so they were you know they were always really really that's right 30-something right yeah they were really
Starting point is 00:08:43 wary of the business too and they were like oh god it's a terrible business that makes you you know you like there's so many ups and downs and makes you competitive and you know bitter and all this stuff but so they say they would say that stuff but then we'd get to go see my dad play like smalls you know jazz club in new york or i get to go i get to go be backstage when my mom was in a play and um so we kind of uh just and it always looked like the most exciting amazing thing in the world. So we were just playing music and wanting to, you know, put on plays and put on concerts and all that stuff since we were really, really tiny little kids. It's emulation. It's like, what else do you know?
Starting point is 00:09:26 Mr. Rogers says the thing where attitudes are caught. They're not taught. Thought the attitude of that, like, you know, doing your art, the thing that you care of the most about in the world is there's something, you know, that's just, I mean, I noticed that even when we're with friends or people that don't have artistic passions, they're always like, oh, when I was a little, I wish I would have followed that. I wish I would have kept up with the piano lessons. I wish I would have kept up with the dance or with the things. Yeah. Because everybody as a kid is excited about something like that. Did your parents ever push you to keep going when maybe they saw you were falling out of favor because they understood the talent that you had, much like an athlete? I remember when I was,
Starting point is 00:10:08 I remember going, it really drying up acting stuff right after Naked Brothers band. It was like, you know, being on a Nickelodeon show that that isn't on anymore, you know, you become kind of persona non grata for a little bit in the business. And I remember me going like, well, I really like doing the music. My mom was like, well, you want to just call them and tell them you don't want to, I can say, well, I don't know, whatever. And then, you know, things change and you get something that you're excited about. But I remember my mom very clearly being like, well, you could just call them and tell them you don't want to do it anymore.
Starting point is 00:10:43 I mean, it's probably a relief on some level to not have to watch your kids go through rejection. So much rejection all the time. Totally. Oh, my God. We had a funny moment the other day because we had to go on 15 minutes early because we're the opening act. And so there were empty seats when we went on. Not like that many, but it was like probably, it's like a 20,000 place. It was probably like 15,000.
Starting point is 00:11:06 But I was like, Alex and I were like, oh, fuck, but there's so many, you know, empty seats there. And our keyboarders goes, oh, boo-hoo, you're playing for 15,000 people. No, 20, I go, you know, when you grew up like us where there was like times where we played for like 10 people at the Bronx Zoo and stuff, you just always have that chip on your shoulder. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:27 We once played a show, we were talking about we once played this show for 10 people at the Bronx. I don't even think it was 10 because there wasn't enough people to see. see. It was like there, I felt like there was like are two people that we brought and then there were the zoo people. There were two people that were... And the monkeys and the lions were so
Starting point is 00:11:45 loud that you couldn't hear us play. Like, we were right by... Oh my God. I didn't have a guitar strap. Um, so I remember this guy who had been helping us out, went to a curtain and just cut off a little bit of a curtain and wrapped around the... And then we had like a choir that was supposed to play with us, but like half
Starting point is 00:12:01 the choir was sick and so then there was like three members of a choir. And they didn't know any of the songs they didn't know any of the songs that we learned for them and uh we were on stage with those empty seats the other night it was like 15,000 was it 20,000 Alice turned to me goes bronc zoo bro right look I mean that shit is great though it's humbling you know what I mean even though you've been through you've you've achieved some sort of success and fame when you were little that was too humbling I don't know that I want to be humbled at that level I like the mini humbling that was a pumbling
Starting point is 00:12:36 It was You got to I guess you just got to Fucking push through it First of all How did you get a gig at the Bronx Zoo Who do you call It's shockingly easy You just call it
Starting point is 00:12:49 When nobody's gonna come You say hey can we just play in the back Next to the monkeys And the fucking lions With anybody coming The choir I don't know how the choir Got situated
Starting point is 00:12:59 But they obviously didn't hear about the show Game so how is your music like evolved you know i mean are you have you reached that point not a forever evolution but have you found sort of your lane your groove or can it still evolve to something different i don't feel like i've ever found my groove i just we just kind of keep i feel like we keep trying to rework whatever it is that we're doing it's always like okay it worked for a second but now let's try and um do something else i feel like i'm always like oh no no no we have to do something else because that was this
Starting point is 00:13:35 so that we have to change. I'm in a constant state of wanting to move somewhere else. Not necessarily forward but just some other direction. Yeah. I found when we were younger it was interesting that like I would we were always obsessed
Starting point is 00:13:50 with the Beatles like really our intro into music was my dad was jazz and then Beatles and kind of punked up was like right next store. We're like like 10 10 11 but then I remember there were certain people where I would get into them and it would take Alex three because I'm three years older it would take Alex three years like
Starting point is 00:14:13 I love Neil Young now it's like I don't get it and then when like 15 he got really into Neil Young it was like certain things where he realized at that age but now Alex and I will constantly send each other music and we come from we come at performing and music from music from a really different perspective and then we end up kind of meeting in the middle somewhere but you do go you do come out of from a different perspective I think so like Boris our musical director said that like
Starting point is 00:14:44 Alex sees everything micro and I see everything macro so like I need to be focused in and Alex needs to be like expand the view right yeah September Owens feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility,
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Starting point is 00:15:52 I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast. us about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized?
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Starting point is 00:16:41 Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We were getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present. IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care.
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Starting point is 00:17:57 My dad is a farmer And my mom is a cousin So like it's not What do you get when a true crime producer Walks into a comedy club I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke But that really was my reality nine years ago I just normally do straight stand-up
Starting point is 00:18:12 But this is a bit different On stage stood a comedian With a story that no one expected to hear Well 22nd of July 2015 A 23 year old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer
Starting point is 00:18:35 walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a tape recorder stage. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike.
Starting point is 00:18:59 This is in regards to the death of a Colleen Slimmer. She started going off on Eve and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slimmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death. The state has asked for an execution date for Krista.
Starting point is 00:19:28 We let people languish in prison for decades, raising questions about who we consider fundamentally unrestorable. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you at your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:20:02 How does that translate to creating just, let's just even say a song, you know, I mean, do you guys have a healthy collaboration or can it get nutty at times? I mean, you know, Kate obviously was married to Chris Robinson, Black Crow, so he was my brother-in-law for a while, you know, him and a rich, it's, you know, obviously it's a very famous sort of brotherly, you know, issue. Now they're older and they've gotten together and they're on tour again and they have like reconciled their brothers or their friends. Their brothers, Chris and Rich Robinson, you know, from the crows and they famously fought, you know, kind of like Oasis essentially. They did a tour with Oasis and I think it was called like the bad blood
Starting point is 00:20:46 tour, the bad or the bad or bad brothers, the bad brothers or bad brothers or something like seen that oh dude i mean when when kate got with got together with chris i was a huge crows fan like well before they even met and i was like oh shit this is awesome so we would go beside stage with them and it was just a whole world you see oasis yeah went i saw that tour wow but the coolest shit though is when he played with jimmy page he did a whole album with jimmy page and then he played with jimmy page i saw him a couple times but once in dc just watching page and then chris sing all of zeppelin songs i mean it was that is so cool i remember when alex and i were um living together during lockdown like 2020 um we're living with one of my friends austin who uh doesn't have any siblings
Starting point is 00:21:38 and alex and i started screaming at each other like you know like the way we fight we started screaming at each other and we stormed off in other rooms. I have no idea, probably about nothing. And then I saw Alex in the kitchen. I was like, hey, I love him. Sorry. He's like, I'm sorry, too. I love everybody. And my friend Austin was sitting there and he was like,
Starting point is 00:21:58 I thought the band was going to break up. It would take a lot more than that to break, you know. How do you guys get through sort of adversity when it comes to your music? We just kind of, well, we give ourselves time limits. Like, when we make a record. we'll get into a thing and then go into a separate rooms and then kind of come back and make it work because we got to finish the song in a day so I kind of think we have a very practical attitude about it it's like we don't fight here we can go in another room and fight but we don't fight in front of certain people we kind of I think we've a pretty good system I mean I would take it like I mean this is a way oversimplification but one of the things I think is that I would probably choose if we were let's say recording I would probably choose every take one and Alex would probably choose every take 3001. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:22:50 So then, not true, but I like, I like it as a good, as a good line, but it's true. But it's not true. It's not true. About you guys, how do you and how do you and Kate deal with conflict? Um, we just ignore each other. Mike club? Yeah, you know, it's, I think,
Starting point is 00:23:14 you got to pick your battles you know there's certain things where i'm like well if i say this to kate and i express sort of how i'm really feeling and i'm supposed to be communicative it's only going to fucking cause more problems and it might only lead to more another battle and i'm like fuck it you know what i mean like i love her she loves me i don't need to deal with this shit like i don't need to confront it i'm going to say about bands that are friends sometimes i think that one of the things that happens. I mean, obviously, Oasis are certain. Well, they're back together, so fucking Yeah, they are.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Yeah, Oasis or a Black Rose because... Well, here's the thing, dude. Like, eventually, money, money does run out. Like, let's be honest. I know you're Oasis, but after however many billion years and it's like, oh, they want to make... Okay, we need to need some dough.
Starting point is 00:24:02 But I'll say that something that I think happens in bands that I've just noticed from, I don't know, documentaries and, and, like, um, like Neil Young's book and stuff that. friends when you choose the people you want to be in a band with i think it becomes really heartbreaking and complicated when the person you've chosen to be starts to piss you off because then you're like but i think there's something about brothers and siblings where it's kind of like we've been stuck
Starting point is 00:24:26 we've been stuck together forever like what are we going to do not being a you know it's and also music since we were babies we didn't decide it's 16 and you know 19 yeah okay let's start a band like we've been in a band so i kind of it would be in more uncharted territory where it did not be in a band, then to like, oh, let's just go back to normal before the band. Yeah. Also, we got, we got wasted at a wedding and we got these tattoos. I have an A on my foot and Alice got an end on his foot. Well, I got mine moved, actually.
Starting point is 00:25:01 No. No, I know. That's, I mean, you know, it's a great point. It's like you made the joke, but it's almost true. You were in a band since the womb. you know what I mean so it's just kind of a part of your DNA it's part of who you guys are I mean you've been through so much as far as Nickelodeon is this and that and then and that holidays together or something it's kind of like well we right we've always this is what we do
Starting point is 00:25:29 this is what we do yeah and has there ever been a moment where there is that's been questioned like do we continue this no I think you know there's been times where just due to like what was going on with our careers it's been harder to schedule like we had a couple years where we were just both you know on sets
Starting point is 00:25:51 all the time acting but we were constantly like recording it's just we weren't touring as much but now like the last four or five years it's been so I mean I love touring so and we love making music we just started kind of
Starting point is 00:26:04 we just let it happen naturally there was just an impulse to start taking a band super seriously and so we and they can't be a primary records have you guys considered
Starting point is 00:26:15 I mean do you have you had a big break you know was there a moment we're like oh shit we fucking kind of did it
Starting point is 00:26:22 not that it's done but there was that moment where you know there was a bit of propulsion to another level like career wise or create
Starting point is 00:26:32 yeah career well let's go creative and career you know I mean forget about acting for a second I'm just talking about the cross big break I'm ready for the look cross team to draft me and say this is your time I'm like this is what you want in that no more
Starting point is 00:26:44 band no more acting I'm ready to be a lacrosse star well dude Olympics there's going to be lacrosse was going to be lacrosse in the next olympics so yeah you got a shot me you call him bro you got a shot I call the kid call the kid hey is this Olympics I want you to take my brother I'll make my brother sounds like the uh you want the other line sounds like the jerk Jerky boys. Are you guys too young for the jerky boys? We love jerky boys. Oh, good, good, good, good. I was shooting pumpkin balls out of my ass.
Starting point is 00:27:21 We used to love jerky boys. My eyes are going crazy. My, oh, dude, I was so love that. Who is this? Rizzo, Frank Rizzo. I got glass to me store, but my eyes is going crazy now. Right. It's right.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Dude, I tried to play that for my kids. at 17, 14, and 11. It didn't translate, dude. Oh, they didn't get it? Not really. I got you to that, yeah. Totally. I love that. I still love the phony phone call, though.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Howard Stern is, like, one of my favorite. I fucking love Stern so much. So good. And he still keeps up the phony phone call world and beautifully. Wait, he still does phony. He's still, man. Oh, his whole team does crazy, amazing phony phone call still. So cool.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Yeah. So what about the acting component, sort of to what you guys are doing? I mean, obviously you're both not asking you to choose one or the other, but it sounds like if you had to, you know, playing music kind of would be what you would rather be doing than being in front of the camera? I think no choice. I think, well, for me at least, I think people have been trying to kind of corner me into an answer. For that, just like at dinners or something, I'd be like, well, you know, so far, I don't have to happen.
Starting point is 00:28:37 You don't have to. I might not have to choose, so probably not. I mean, they kind of fulfill different parts. So probably if I won for too long, like when it was just acting for too long, even though we weren't doing music, not taking it seriously, there was a big void in my life for sure. You know, the same might go for just music, I think. I mean, music is maybe more part of our DNA because we've been doing it to our kids,
Starting point is 00:29:06 but I think we need both. I feel like doing live theater as an actor to me is kind of gives me the same feeling that doing, you know, like going on tour, playing live. I would say that those two things are probably my favorite, you know. Yeah. Are you guys competitive? I think we've... With each other.
Starting point is 00:29:29 I think we've always, I mean, I feel like I'm Alex's biggest fan like when it comes to yeah i don't think we're competitive about our careers we're probably competitive about we get so competitive about like games sports ping pong basketball like when we were kids before the concert the other night there was ping pong and i'm you know by far the superior ping pong player um and that and that goes he's not by far the superior he's he is out just a scosh just a scosh and we used to be i used yeah i haven't played in here see this pisses me but before the gig we're about to play a game and that goes i don't want to lose before the show yeah i don't know that that's healthy that that's smart dude you know how it might affect you
Starting point is 00:30:18 yeah i think uh i feel like it gets put into that i feel like we get uh Alex likes to um like steal all my clothes that shit really pisses me up it ends up being like a lot of little kid stuff that really do you guys have like similar style um here's the thing how old first of how old are you guys i'm 29 26 yeah and and on stage do you have a do you have a style or you i mean do you have a uh you know obviously are you wearing this or do you dress up and do a whole fucking, you know what I mean, like persona. I'm dressed up. This is LLB, bro.
Starting point is 00:31:02 My wife modeled for LLB. LLB, bro. This is vintage LLB. That is vintage LLB in actually. We got this guy Spencer who did, who styled Billy to style us for this tour. Can you see me? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I got you.
Starting point is 00:31:18 I got you. This is the best, by far the best, uh, clothes we've had also because we're not arguing right before the show. Like, well, if you're going to. going to wear tie i'm not going to wear tie i'm going to wear tie you're going to wear who's going to wear sunglasses mine work this time spencer planted out for us so like we got all the outfits we wanted but now he put pictures of alms like tonight you wear this tomorrow you wear this we still have like fucked it up a couple times but yeah but that's you know you're gaining some
Starting point is 00:31:44 status there we've got the stock you've got some stylists who's saying no here's your fucking wardrobe just fucking put this shit on it go on yeah shut up exactly so Alex I got to talk about fucking hereditary just really quickly because Ari is like one of my favorite directors it's my kids. Have you had a one of those go? No, no, no, no. But I just, I mean, I've been obsessed with that dude forever and
Starting point is 00:32:08 even watching it shorts back in the day. Amazing. So it's just ridiculous stuff. Just so innovative and his brain is, you know, on another planet. But, you know, I parent differently. You know, most parents would not show their children hereditary. But, you know, when my, how long
Starting point is 00:32:26 go to hereditary even come out four years ago five years ago yeah maybe right so my 17 year old at time was 13 and then I had a 10 and then I had like a fucking six year old all watching hereditary you show you six year old hereditary yeah yeah it's a piece of art it's just art that needs to be seen they they it's still their favorite movie it's it's just I mean real quickly I want to get to the whole fucking thing but the experience you know, Ari, what was the audition part of that? Like, how did it all go down? Well, Ari really is the best.
Starting point is 00:33:05 And we were inseparable on that movie. Like, best would hang out after all the time. I would hang up before we went to set and would just be together all the time. The audition process was I was doing a play and I went and did an audition. And I was doing all the fine boys. And I went in before. for a show, I think. And I remember there was like this big breakdown scene.
Starting point is 00:33:31 I had a big breakdown. And he was so nice and was really cool. And he called me back. And I was like, fuck. Like, I don't know how I'm going to do that again. Like a break. And I kind of thought like, God, I can't believe how to go back and do it. And this this big sobbing scene.
Starting point is 00:33:45 I came back and I was ready to do it. And he goes, hey, I already saw that the last time. So you don't have to do that. Can we just focus on? And I was like, I love that. Oh, God. We just worked on the first two scenes. and we got along so well, and I love the way he directed.
Starting point is 00:34:01 And he's just got the perfect combination. He was very precise and, like, his blocking and everything. It's very camera-centric, but he's also so emotionally intuitive and sensitive and, like, really took care of me during that movie. It was just, like, a fucking dream. It would also just come to my hotel room and check on me and love that guy. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next
Starting point is 00:34:37 adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place will stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm, character, and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos.
Starting point is 00:35:21 In aden, Paula Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith, but there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in.
Starting point is 00:35:51 To bring you death and analysis. from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other, sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I started trying to get pregnant about four. years ago now. We're getting a little bit older and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart podcast present IVF disrupted the Kind Body story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care. Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients.
Starting point is 00:37:00 You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands and then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:37:20 My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin, so, like, it's not, like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different.
Starting point is 00:37:42 On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015. A 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:38:20 This is a tape recorded statement. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike. This is in regards to the death of a Colleen Slimmer. She started going off on me and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slimmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. The state has asked for an execution date for Krista. We let people languish in prison for decades, raising questions about who we consider fundamentally unrestorable. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life. on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When you read the script, did you understand the ending? Hey, Dad. I've learned my thanks to my dad. I said, we're going to be using this room. We're in the middle of a podcast. That's all right.
Starting point is 00:39:44 You're wearing my jacket. What's up, Pops? there he is he's got a nice stroll he's got a swag he's got a nobody's older than michael wolf this is oliver hey all right how are you man how you doing good man all right i'll let you guys go i haven't seen in a while man hold on dad how is it raising these boys was it easy was it difficult what you know it was the worst time in my life yeah he means it i'm sure who is It was awesome.
Starting point is 00:40:17 It was awesome. Who was easier? Who was easier to raise? Who was more behaved? They each had their own specific quirks and differences. They were both a groove. Yeah, I lucked out, man. Because in my other kids, I got rid of them.
Starting point is 00:40:31 You know, before I met these guys, I had two other kids. I just dumped them. No, hey, look, I know. You do that. You don't know that, but you can do that. No, no, I get it. There's a chance I was dumped a while back. He was 13 and he dropped them off with a fire station.
Starting point is 00:40:45 they're like dad we're too old for the fire station they're like i don't care they're supposed to do it i'm really lucky these guys are the best sons you could possibly he's just saying that because it's the first time thing so oliver has a podcast it's like about siblings yeah he's yeah him and k got son yeah yeah yeah my sister would be on but she's in new york all right guys well i'll let you get to all right go buddy with my siblings believe me that's so great man that's i got to say um look kurt raised me you know because my dad bill when i was when i was a kid we're a little bit of a better relationship now um but you're bile it's never the same you know what i mean and and i have an incredible relationship with kurt
Starting point is 00:41:38 i mean he i i'm the man than i am today because of because of him is why is why you're brother too why it's my yeah why it's my half brother so why i love why man he's awesome yeah how do you know why i i uh i worked with andrew garfield a couple of times and i yeah andrews one of my best friends and the two yeah yeah on um under the banner under the banner yeah so i got to spend some time with why and also he's just such a good actor man it's crazy that black new episode with the spider and yeah he's great he's actually in australia uh uh right now doing Godzilla. Did he just do, I think...
Starting point is 00:42:18 Wait, Godzilla with Kiercy Clemens is in there, right? And he did... No, I don't even know. Marvel, the Marvel movie? He did the Marvel. He did the movie with Florence Pugh, and then I guess they did the movie part of that, and then...
Starting point is 00:42:32 Thunderbolts, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's funny because he's such a... You know, he was such like an Artur in a way. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, he would do these really cool, independent movies and you know and then all of a sudden he's in like godzilla for apple and
Starting point is 00:42:49 like marvel he's a director or he's an actor no he's an actor by oh yeah yeah great art and then his wife is her name's meredith hagner she's amazing dude my dad has not seen to understand right i think uh yeah i'm talking about my latest album that came out on august second that's all yeah what is it promote it memoir Memoir August 2nd Where can we Where can we find it Like Spotify Apple Music
Starting point is 00:43:20 All that Yeah you can find it everywhere My dad's amazing bad skin is But he's all such big interview graduate I told out If we've fucking written it literally No manners I see
Starting point is 00:43:35 Dude I love it It's hysterical He needs to surprise me Oh my God Also he's wearing all my clothes those are all my clothes my whole family takes my clothes it's not I don't even have good fashion sense really it's just whose house are you are you are my parents are my parents so it's
Starting point is 00:43:53 really you are but we stopped here we I live in L.A. now and I'm an apartment apartment but we stopped here yeah so wait do you guys live both live in L.A. Alex's girlfriend lives in L.A. so he's there we're back and I have a place okay I got a place in Beachwood Canyon and like a year ago and it's been awesome yeah yeah I know I kind of want to the hell out of L.A. You know, I love to fish, and I'm a big outdoors guy. I've got a boat. But you're saying the thing about your dad that, like, you were raised by Kirpah,
Starting point is 00:44:23 your biological dad wasn't around when you were. No, so yeah, he, he, the divorce when I was five, and then we, it was good for a few years, and then just kind of went to hell. And then I was doing this TV show in New Orleans, and it was Father's Day. And there was a great picture of myself and my dad and kids. during better times arms around each other all smiling and I posted it on Instagram and I said happy abandonment day yeah I was I was just yeah I mean I was it was sort of my dark joke yeah like you know cutting sense of humor but they everyone the
Starting point is 00:45:03 press picked it up it when was this five six years ago maybe oh man press picked it up it blew up into a whole thing and I got his number and I wrote him this long long, long text, you know, about, I apologize, saying, like, I'm never trying to hurt your feelings. You know, I was just being stupid. I was being funny. But, you know, you don't have, you don't really have legs to stand on here, buddy, you know. You make a joke. Right. Long, long story, right. Long story short, it was the catalyst to us getting back together and actually having a relationship because he came to LA. I said, let's link up. I hadn't seen him in 12. 13, 14 years and, you know, we hung out.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Do you should do it again. I, I, I, dude, I have thought about this. No, that would be. Yes, I have thought about this. That would be the funny joke of all time. Yes. The same picture, happy band of a day, part two. You know, the better, the thing is he would probably take it much better.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Yeah, now that you guys. You know, to know what? I mean, but yeah. Anyway, so we linked up, we talked. I put him on the witness stand just grilling him. We smoked a thousand cigarettes outside. And then we, you know, we had another lunch and, you know, kind of healed things. Wow. At the same time, we text a lot. You know, we keep in touch, but I don't know, there's still, it's still hard to actually get together, even though he lives fucking 15 minutes away from me in Malibu, you know. Well, we have a, like, a moment in the show where we talk about it in the concert, but our dad got cancer in, like, 2014, and, you know, we thought that he was going to die. And my mom was calling us being like, oh, your dad has a 50% chance and making it through the nothing. It was like a really horrible couple of years where. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:46:59 But weirdly, through that, you know, we had all had, like, some family issues and stuff. And then weirdly through that, we all got close again. Not that. Yeah. But the four of us. Yeah. No, I mean, sometimes it takes that. You just never know.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Sometimes it's cancer. Sometimes it's a post on Instagram. Right, right. Either way. Yeah. Sometimes it's doing it again and seeing what the reflection. Yeah. I mean, but that 19 and however old, that's fucking gnarly to have to go through something like that.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Horrible. It was horrible. But, you know, yeah, it was like one of those things where, you know, we were like, you know. do you have to come to terms with it do you have to come to grips with this like we'd say goodbye we'd like say goodbye just you know it was really intense because I had a girlfriend whose dad got diagnosed with the brain tumor
Starting point is 00:47:50 was with her for a year and then dad died and then almost a couple weeks later my dad got diagnosed with cancer and I remember I'm being like it's going to be fine it's nothing like that and then it was horrible ICU it was like but then it seemed like the only path his cancer was so odd and unique that one of these doctors
Starting point is 00:48:09 that Sloan Kettering took a real... Dr. Gounder. Yeah, took an interest in him and gave him this special pill because he couldn't do chemo, he would have killed him, gave him a special pill called Mechanist, and he was the third person
Starting point is 00:48:22 in the world that it ever worked on. Wow. And now, like, studies are written about... And the first for this cancer. And the first for this particular cancer. And now they cure this cancer a bunch of different times, now with Mechanist.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Using my death. Wow. Yeah, well, you know, so it's been pretty fucking amazing. He's made a full recovery, you know, where he's like, he plays gigs. obviously he has his album coming out and he comes
Starting point is 00:48:40 Yeah You know interrupts our podcast interview Yeah I'm going to post tonight Happy Mechanist Day Real quick I'm going to let you boys go But this is interesting to me
Starting point is 00:48:51 So why do you think something like that I mean obviously tragedy can bring family together There's no doubt but what do you think it was It was just the fragility of life You know what I mean Is that what it is sort of saying You know what there's not much time We all have left
Starting point is 00:49:04 This whole fucking planet's going to be a big ball of fire at some point Families, you just kind of get, okay, well, I do this thing and I wake up and I go and do this and we go with this thing, and then when mortality hits, you realize all that other shit is very superficial in comparison to what's really going on. I think families, if you're not dealing with that, are dealing with a lot of other stresses, like so many surface stresses. And I think those just aren't as present anymore. I also just think before that, like with everybody, you think you're, you kind of see your parents as being superheroes. And then when seeing our dad get sick, you realize that they aren't. And in that way, you can accept their other faults, you know.
Starting point is 00:49:51 And so that made it easier for me to, you know, because if you see your parents, superheroes and then they keep letting you down, you know, you get angrier and angry at them and then you have to rebel. But, and then at a certain point, yeah, they get sick and you realize like, oh, they're, just human like everybody else but also i think he he saw the um the you know he said that after he got sick he realized family was the most important thing so i think he became much you know much better dad i think i became a better son i was became a better son he became a better and and then you know through that i don't know everybody's relationship just got stronger we all made a movie together um right after he started to get better called steles last week and alix and i were in it my mom my dad did the music and I was like oh wow we're all kind of like closer than we've
Starting point is 00:50:41 ever been you know that's fun how is that my family's always like we should do a movie together and it yeah it's you know I don't know there's too many of us I think it's too fucking crazy but how was it really awesome it was it was a fun yeah really got along the experience yeah was really special it felt like everybody we felt like we had to kind of disband as a family and then come back together for the reunion tour. Yeah. Fun. Like Black Rose and away.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Yeah, yeah. You did it for the money. Hospital bills. I mean, I did. Yeah. That was it. That was it. That was one for them.
Starting point is 00:51:20 That was. Mm-hmm. Well, you guys, thank you for cruising in doing this. So when are you doing it? You got MSG and then New Jersey, New Jersey's first? Got newer tomorrow. And then we got three shows, then we got Boston, Pittsburgh, and then we got three shows at MSG.
Starting point is 00:51:39 When I was like nine years old, I went to see Billy Joel, my dad, and I was like, I said my two biggest dreams in the whole world are to, I want to play at MSG, and I want to meet Paul McCartney. I met Paul McCartney. Yeah. Yeah. And then now I get to play a sentence. Dude, that is crazy.
Starting point is 00:51:57 It's just crazy. I can't believe it. And I want to cross to the Olympics. So we're both. Well, you're going to, you got to work. You got to work harder, buddy. You got to start, you got to start training. Oh, we got to do is call the Olympics.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Hello, Olympics. Are you on the line? Olympic! I can't get it. I can't get them. Speaking to the receiver. Are you on with my brother? Excuse me, Olympics.
Starting point is 00:52:19 I. Okay, this is a Denny's, but then I don't know the Olympics. But do you know the Olympics? The Olympic breakfast? Does that what you want? The Olympic breakfast? Yeah, I'm sorry. If we're on the phone.
Starting point is 00:52:38 All right, boys. Well, let's figure it out. All right. Later. Thank you guys. So much for talking about here. Yeah, that was fun. All right, boys.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Yeah, cool, guys. Much cooler than me. You know, it made me feel old, honestly. Like an old man just trying to, like, pick apart these young studs. These young and incredibly talented brothers who, you know, are acting and doing plays and opening for ilish and playing an msg you know fucking 29 and 26 or whatever i'm 48 i'm sitting in my son's room doing a podcast by myself anyway one day i will be 26 again don't know when that day is
Starting point is 00:53:33 don't know how it's going to happen but one day the Hudson Express will be 26 all right I'm going to leave and try to do something creative to feel better about myself peace I'm Jorge Ramos
Starting point is 00:53:52 and I'm Paola Ramos together we're launching The Moment a new podcast about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one we sit down with politicians artists and activists to bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. The moment is a space for the conversations we've been having as father and daughter for years.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Introducing IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. It grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patience. You think you're finally, like, in the right hands. You're just not. Listen to IvyF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different.
Starting point is 00:54:55 What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian, finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story. Does anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. How does someone prove that they deserve
Starting point is 00:55:37 to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves, County, Kentucky went unsolved for years, until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts, and to binge the entire season, an ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.
Starting point is 00:56:38 This is an IHeart podcast.

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