Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Camila Cabello: From Harmony to Havana (Part One)

Episode Date: May 5, 2025

She's our favorite chart-topping Señorita, Camila Cabello joins the revelry with her little sister Sofia! If you want to stand a chance with Camila, you gotta win her family over first!From the big breakup Sofia says she saw coming, to who the real party animal of the family is, the sisters share some family secrets. Plus, the name Camila went by in school because she was too shy to correct her classmates!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling rivalry. No, no. Sibling Reveory. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling Reveory. That's good.

Oliver. I'm super excited because I say it's every time. I think that's what I say every time. I'm super excited. I just realize that. I hate when I like. I know, but you maybe genuinely are super excited. I know, but I'm always super excited about everything.

It's like my- Super excited. My friend's always like you, he goes, you always say like, that's the best. I'm like, now every time I hear it. No, I think it's best not to point out the idiosyncrasies of people because it gets in your head. But I'm super excited about this next.

Well, this one actually you should be because they flew in for us. I'm so. I don't believe that, but like that's what I was told. Yeah, which is such a weird thing. Why wouldn't you believe that? Because no one flies from Miami to L.A. to be on sibling revelry. They have to have other things they're doing. Why do you have such a low self-esteem?

No, I just am a real. Well, that's a whole, that's actually a real question. This has nothing to do with the topic of these siblings. sisters flying in. If we wanted to get my low self-esteem, that's another three to four podcasts we've got to get through. We'll talk about that later.

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Camilla Cabellio. Sophia Cabello. Sophia Cabello. Sofia. My best friend's name is Sophie Lopez. That's not your best friend. Sophie? Yeah.

She's one of my best friend. One of. You said my best. You could say one of. One of. She's one of my besties. One of my biggest besties. Well, she's very little.

She is little. She's tiny. She's so tiny. She's so cute. Who would you say is your best friend? Do you have a best friend? You can say, it. They won't, no one else will be offended. I think I have a, I think I have like a core group of

best friends. I think Jamie. Jamie is like probably at the top of the pyramid here. No, I would say Lori Lynn. Okay. Great name. Lori Lynn. Yeah. Alliteration. Lori Lynn Stark. I'm very lucky because she's, well, there's old, there's, in a friend group you have. Yeah, a hierarchy. There's a hierarchy. There has to be, you know. But I go to my friends. But there's old this, then, And there's certain connections you have that are better than others. There was this great book that I read that talked about friendships. What's it called? And I forgot.

Okay. But it might come to me. Friendship. No, it was about how, like, what is it that you value in the friendship and what is it that they like offer you in terms of connectivity and love and all those things? And you can do it with your friendships and you do with your family. and then you really see like who do you go to for like what like how does this person serve your life it's a kind of narcissistic in the sense that it's like how do they serve you but it does human beings that's kind of how we work it does sort of it does like highlight the people that are really there for you you know like which sibling is the person you call when something's going on which friend yeah definitely okay yeah definitely okay yeah definitely awkward if it was. But other than that, other than that, he does nothing for me. It's just

like a vent. Today in the car, we're talking about something. I'm trying to like, he sort of interrupt and talks, just let me vent. He's like, okay, go ahead. First, you were like, first you're like, first you're like, I don't want this to get all where. I don't want this to go. I don't want this to be a thing. I'm like, shut up. I know. I need to vent. Just let me get it out. Yeah. I don't want whatever this conversation was, I don't want her going back to this person and blowing the shit up. you're a fixer you go to the fixer right just don't want to hurt anyone's feelings and you know no he's an avoidant oh my god you look like a cinnamon roll and you are a cinnamon roll yeah well i mean you i don't think you i don't actually think i actually think you you look like he looks like

he could kill you but is a cinnamon roll yeah yeah i actually think it's more that yeah yeah yeah i think that's what am i i i'm definitely cinnamon roll but i'm a weird uh a little nutty yeah but you You would, no, no, she's right. I can be very vindictive and hurt people. Okay. Yeah, fair enough. You know? Oh, that's true.

I can go for the jugular. I get, I get personal. Oh, I forgot about that. I guess that white flash of like, oh my, my God, I don't know what the fuck I'm about to do right now. Like white hot heat. Yeah, and I'll say things that are personal. You get white hot heat.

It's like you need to take out the venom, like if you're a scorpion, just like you need to let it out. Are you a scorpio? Oh, no. My dad is a scorpio. Our mom's a Scorpio. Yeah. Yeah.

It's that tail. That tail's tough. Do you guys find, are you guys very kind of opposite in personalities? Because we're, I feel like we're very, like, opposite. Surface level-wise, we're very different. Yeah. I think so. I think so.

But we're not like, that's an interesting question. I think we are, but there's a root that is very, very similar. You know, for sure. Oh, I have a good way to frame this question. Somebody was like, there's always somebody in a relationship, for example, that's a black cat and somebody that's a golden retriever. Oh. So it's like who's the black cat and who's the golden retriever?

Because I feel like you're the black cat. Interesting. And I'm the golden retriever. I mean, maybe I'm a golden retriever. I'm kind of like a golden retriever. I feel like you're a golden retriever. I kind of deep down. What is it?

I feel like black cat is somebody that's intrinsically more, how would you describe it? Like a little bit more like. Dereous. Yeah. Like Bing is the black cat and riders the golden retriever. I enjoy. the underbelly of life.

I think there's something interesting about it. Dark and seedy about you. Yeah, no, I do. Because when we see Like a black cat in the in the back alley. That's right, with very green eyes. When we meet people,

when we meet people, it's always about that sort of small talk, but no one really digs into sort of who you really are. And to get To know someone, you have to know the bolt of shit, the underbelly, the pain, the addictions, the nasty shit, because that is where real life sort of exists. We put on a bit of a facade. So I'm interested in that.

Me too. I have to agree with that too. And I'm interested in indulging in that shit, which as I've gotten older, you have to relinquish that. He's been sober for a month plus, 30 days. Congrats. That's awesome. of Mexico and that's all going to go to hell. But it's been great.

You took a real break. I needed to take a break. Yeah. I was just drinking too much. Yeah, yeah, no, fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah. I feel like I realize like it just like, it just makes me feel terrible.

That's it. Oh my God. Do you drink any, you stop drinking? No, I still do like occasionally, but I honestly rarely, rarely do because I just like the next day or a few days, I would like get sick. I know. Oh my God. I would get like crazy stomachrams and also like, I feel like, I feel like.

like if I'm stressed, it really triggers my acid reflux. So I would be at a party and I would be like literally like on over. Yeah, I just got like a prescription for acid reflux because it was getting bad. Yeah. Is that stress related for you? I don't know what it is. What? You're just a disaster.

A beautiful disaster. You are. Wait, this brings me to one thing. This is a fun thing. We did this on the set of running point, which is we all like said like what animal are you. Like if there was an animal that you felt like most closely connected to, what is it? And it's really interesting to see what you think of yourself and what others think of you. Okay, okay, let's all go.

Let's all go. We could do this at the end. Oh, okay. Maybe we do this at the end. So we need to know each other. Okay, yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it.

Because I don't even know. Do you have any idea of what you guys would be? Don't say it. But I don't know. For myself? Is it personality based? I think it's like a feeling like what animal you use. seeing you feel maybe emotionally connect you're like you gravitate towards I have one kind of in

my mind and then I feel like I definitely have to get to know you guys more before I can see what animal you guys would be yeah yeah you know what I mean yeah I do I do I know what animal she would actually I don't but I think about it anything that would exist like in the animal kingdom well she's probably in the in the feline sort of cat family maybe like a wow a porky boy I can actually see that you No, there's a porcupine that I'm thinking about And I don't know the name of it I can see that because

I want like an ugly animal I think ugly animals are really cute Yeah and also because like it looks cute But it could also No that's like a koala Coalas look really cute But like they're like super dangerous No way

So is my daughter They're super dangerous Ronnie says that that's her animal I didn't know koalas were dangerous Have you seen their claws? That's so true You could be a koala, too. They can kick ass.

Yeah. My son, my older son to me, has always been a giraffe. Hi. Ryder? Yeah. Is he very tall? No. He just, he just looks like a giraffe.

Like, his eyes are far apart. He's kind of, he's tall. He's kind of, like, goofy. And even though he thinks he's like, he thinks he's sort of this, like, like, athletic type. But instead he is, but he is, but he's like a little bit. goofy and when you see giraffes they're just they're just a little silly

Yeah yeah yeah yeah My son is a sloth 100% my oldest He looks like a sloth He is such a sloth He has sloth stuffed animals We buy them every year Oh okay so it's official

Like you are a sloth Once you have the stuffed animals Even how he comes to say hello It takes like an hour He's like good for him He's like hey Wilder he's like He I'm like

Like Zatopia You're like, Jesus Christ, Wilder. It's so nice to be on that time. Oh, my God. That's so funny. I feel like I'm like anti-sloth. I'm like, so you guys are 10 years apart? Yes.

So how did that happen? Mom, dad? Yeah. Mom? Share the conception story. Is it only the two of you? It's only the two of us. Okay.

So you are, how old are you? I am 28. And so you're 18. Just turned 18 Happy just got her license You're an adult Are you in Miami as well? Oh, this is

So the whole family is together Yep Okay So 10 years Sometimes most of the times Where were you born? I was born in Cuba Okay

And she was born Miami In the 305 Oh But you didn't pronounce Cuba right It's Cuba In Cuba

Okay There we go So you were born So you were born So So you were born in how long were you there? So I was there kind of back and forth

and I went like from Cuba to Mexico up until I was about like seven years old and then my mom and I came to Miami then Papa came a year later and then they got busy and I remember maybe like three years later and I remember like being in fifth grade

and like mama came to like pick me up and she had this big belly and I was 10 years old And it's so fun, like the age difference is so fun because I feel like I got to really just witness, I don't know, like her being a baby. And I do recall like cleaning a diaper or two. Like a diaper.

I'm not going to say, I did it all the time. One is enough. One is, you know. For 10 years old, you know, it's good. Well, you were 10 years older than Wyatt. Oh, really? Yeah, and I'm seven years older than Wyatt. Yeah.

And but I felt that way with Wyatt too, even though it was like, he was like my little doll. Yeah. I was like, oh my God, I have my own baby. Oh my gosh.

Yeah, it was so fun. It's so fun. It is fun. Now, honestly, it actually like, I'll be on the planet and I'll be scrolling through,

you know, like when your phone does the, whatever, pictures of your dog, pictures of your next forefront, whatever, like they do like the pictures of different people. So I'll look at like,

you know, pictures of her starting from when she was a baby and it's actually aches. Like, I'm like, I miss that time so much. I almost feel like,

I, like, took it for granted when she was so little because she was the cutest, sassiest baby. Like, when I was really sassy. She was so sassy. They're so funny. Like, when I was talking about being opposites, mom and papa tell us this all the time where basically I was, like, a mute when I was little.

Like, I was so serious. Like, I was like, and Sophie was like, she would like. I was so loud, always talking to the evil. Oh, God, she's so bad. Wait, what's your sign again? ARIES. Oh, you're an A high birthday.

I'm Aries too. What was your birthday? April 2nd. Oh. Happy birthday, guys. Happy late birthday. Yeah. Aries.

Loud, fun, adventurous. You would like laughing your sleep. I know. She was like, yeah. It's cool. It's cool. I remember that. That 10-year gap, it seems like on paper it's too far and you wouldn't develop any

kind of a relationship. But that's, it couldn't be further from the truth, at least with Wyatt and myself and even Kate and Wyatt, where you're taking. more of a responsibility for your sibling rather than being just a fun sibling, like you feel like you have a bit of ownership and have to protect that person because you are 10 and then even when you're 15, it's just five, you know, so it's a fun dynamic. I remember waiting for Wyatt or being excited for when he gets older and older where then we can start having fun. Totally. You know what I mean? And we can have beers together. You're still waiting. No, now

I was what I was about to say. You're still waiting for a while. Well, no, not. Now it's bullshit because there's more successful. You're the one who's supposed to be visiting in the Marvel universe. You know what I mean? He's too busy to hang in. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, I'm with Robert Downey Jr. That's right. So, so Cube is, are your parents, one's Cuban, one's Mexican? Yes. So you would go back and forth. Okay. And who's from Cuba?

Mama. and dad is Mexican. Where in Mexico? Quirna Baca. Where is that? So that's like maybe like an hour away from Mexico City. Is it near the water or is it like central? Oh, hell no.

Not near any water. Yeah, it's kind of like, Papa, where would you say? It's like in the middle of the country. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And do you still go back? Yeah, we go back like maybe not as often as would be fun. As we would want to.

But maybe like once a year or something. Maybe in the summer probably. Because I think that's the way that our dad like recharges is like going to Mexico. He's like, I need to go to Mexico. I need to like see my family. I need to see my friends. I need to. I think it's also even more than family and friends.

It's like a just like a cultural recharge. Yeah. Yeah. And what about Cuba? Are you able to, can you what is what is the situation? Yeah, what's the situation there now? Currently. Can we swear on this podcast?

Yeah. It's fucked. It is. Yeah. Yeah, there's like, I mean, we have people there that it feels like it's like about to be a, like more and more people. We have like, there's like mass migration towards the United States because there's no food, there's no medicine. Like there's horror stories from people from, you know, even like our, not our immediate family, but, you know, cousins who are like, I had to go to Cuba to bring my dad like anesthesia because he, you know, had to undergo a surgical procedure. There was no anesthesia.

So the situation is really bad over there. I think it would make, like, Mama and our grandparents, for example, are really sad and heartbroken to go there because it's like, it's interesting. It's like a, it's like a heartbreak with the country, with the, you know. But I think for me, it's a lot of, I can't really go there. September Owens feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects are just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure.

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four and then i think you went back again without without me with mama i have no idea that one i don't remember the one when i was like three or something yeah yeah and what's the thing that like sticks with you about it like what are the what are some of the memories like when you think of it like I wish I would go to Cuba. I know. It's just such a, I mean, you can, you can go. Don't expect, like, you know. Just, I love, I'm big, the people are amazing.

Ernest Hemingway fan. And like, I know that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was his spot. I think that the people make you, like, fall in love with it. And it's also, you know, beautiful beaches and beautiful, you know. What did you ask? I don't remember.

Just like, what was your sort of, like, do you have any core memories from being there? I have, like, sensorial memories. I don't know. if that happens to you, but like if I smell, for example, like sometimes I'll like walk through a, you know, I don't know, like almost like an alleyway of a restaurant and I'll smell like meat and it'll just like remind me of, you know what I mean like because our grandparents like would make pork and they had a lot of parties at that house and I remember, you know, like being for example in the bedroom when I was like really young and crying with my parents because I was so

overstimulated by parties, for example. And, like, they would be, like, dancing and, like, getting drunk and having fun. And I'd be like, I don't know why I was like this. But I have, like, little kind of... So your parents' party. Not really any... Actually, you're mom. They can get down.

They can get down. When they do have, like, family get-togers, it's until 3. When they... It's crazy, like, I am tapped. I'm, like, tap out by 10 p.m. They'll, like, bring, you know, family and friends, and they will be up. They'll be singing. you know singing karaoke singers me at songs like till 3 a.m like just all of the kids are passed out

on couches no all of the kids are in your room yeah and I hate it it's literally like it's so funny it's like you guys are like a bunch of kids packed like sardines on sophie's bed and Sophie's just like I hate my life like kids from like two to your age and I'm just like bye guys I'm going to sleep Like, I'm, like, in the pool house. But when they were younger, they got after they partied. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they still, they still, honestly, they party more than me, I feel like.

I love that. Yeah. Like, hey, they, they can throw back some shots. Not my mom, my dad, my dad. My dad's, like, my dad is an expert in getting other people drunk. He'll have a target set on the night, like, they will be drunk by the end of it. Like, it's crazy. Like, he's evil.

I want to come to a party at your parents' house. Oh, my God. You're totally invited. The person that doesn't want to drink too. It's hilarious. But now everybody's in Miami. Everybody's in Miami. And then dad recharges in Mexico.

Everybody goes about once a year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, we still have family and we have cousins in Mexico. And we still have some family in Cuba, but over the years, more and more people make their way. Well, what was your story coming to the U.S.? You know, do you have memory of that at all? Like your big move? Yeah.

Well, my mom. It wasn't framed to me as a big move. Okay. My, you know, immigrant parents are incredible liars. So, you know, because they kind of have to. We're just going to go here. Oh, no. It was literally like, hey.

We're going to go to Disney. And I was like, yay. And then like four weeks later, I was like, where's my cousin? So, yeah, it wasn't framed to me as like this big move. It was Disneyland. Yeah, it was Disneyland. We're going to go to Disney World. I was like, forever.

This doesn't look like Disney World. But yeah. so I remember like there's different sensory things like I remember in the beginning we had like you know like two channels like on a TV and I'm seeing like PBS cartoons for the first time and I was like this is cool I remember like there being a little bit of like a culture clash with having like I had like a CD player and I had like David Bisbal just like a Spanish singer and I would like bring that to school and like show it to like my American best friend and be like do you know David Bisbell like and she was like what the hell is that like it was a bit of like culture

wait how old were you I was um seven so did you did you did you six or seven I always say six or seven no no English or no no so you had to learn no me no speakied me no speakied no really no so you came to America with your family thinking you were going to Disneyland yeah you didn't speak English and then as we do I guess we immediately start the adapting. Yeah. And that must have been hard. Although,

although were, did it feel exciting in any way? Or were you like, no? I don't think exciting, but I think I've always been, like speaking of the opposite thing, like I feel like I'm more introverted and I don't know.

You're kind of a mix of both, but you're more extroverted than me. It depends on my mood, like everybody, but like usually I'm very extroverted. But I like, like talking and like yapping and like yapping. and like yeah but i but i think for me it was like i think i was so introverted that and who knows

if it was nature or nurture maybe that's why i became so introverted that i was kind of always more in my own world i listened to a lot of music i you know like had like a little journal i would like write songs i you know i spent like i remember a summer with mama when she worked at um like this architect's house or office like for that whole summer i basically just like stayed under her desk and she made like a cardboard house for me under her desk and that's what I was doing like I wasn't really super social so I don't think in that sense I miss my I remember saying like I miss Gabby and I miss my my cousin who I was really close to but I always was like I had like one best friend and that's it right one best friend and that's it so I I don't know I don't

think I this is fun having the parents here too mama papa just tell correct us fact check us Do you think it was hard for me? Because I... I think it was really hard for me. Okay. She says it was really hard for me. Why do you think it was hard for me? Because we left everyone behind, including Papa.

We left everything behind, including Papa. It's interesting. I don't know if you know this, but I remember when Papa was gone for a year, I had like a little Disney calendar where I would cross the X's until he came back, basically, and I was so excited. And then Papa actually came to the United States,

and I didn't talk for like three days. days because I was just like who is he so how by the way just to let you know Katie and I are still crossing off those exes for one day I'm gonna come back Papa I'm sorry maybe he's in Mexico no no no not to over not to over talk or whatever but I was I'm going to say, like, I think we both had experiences with that, too, because, like, when we had to go to X Factor, I think you had similar experiences, too, of, like, I feel like our family's been scattered in different times, you know. Well, what about, what about, how, wait, how long was it?

So he was gone for, like, for a year. For a year. For a year, right? A, but I wasn't there. Wow. Wow. Oh, that's hard. No face time.

But you're Papa. Yeah. That's right. your mom just goes that's why we got busy after oh that's true yes I mean that is wild oh that must have been so hard

and probably not something that like you really could remember or uncover unless you're like have to be in like intense therapy and like actually go back into that time and really go through certain things which maybe you don't even need to necessarily only because when Papa came back he was an amazing human being it was just sort of a

a moment of like it's a real immigration story what about growing up though was it were they strict were they they allow you to run free you know and how is it maybe different oh my god well we're very that's that's where you like

we're very different people like she wouldn't have wanted to go out oh really love going out So it's very different. So, but when you, would they let you, you know, as you guys were old or was it, was there a freedom or was there sort of a restriction of like, no, we live in a more of a strict house? It sounds like your parents are like, they're so cool. Yeah, they're like, go, have fun. My parents do say a lot. It's like I was their first teenager because they never had to deal with like the like, can I go to this party?

Can I sleep over my friend's house two nights in a row? Can we go and like, you know, like they never had that with her as much. Goody two shoes. I was super goody two shoes. I had like two best friends and that's it. And like our outings would be like going to church because like they wanted to go to church. Right.

And I was like, please let me go to church, please. With Sophie, with Sophie, my dad is like fully like, he is, that man's cortisol level is high with you girl. Like he tracks her on life 360 till 2 a.m. He's like, where is he? And now you're 18. Yeah, but like still same thing. the same shit but it's fine

it's okay he just wants to make sure you're safe yeah what do you attribute that to you know what I mean you think it's just it's nature nurture but do you think you just came out being that kind of a person you know or no it's such a good question

well one I started working when I was 15 you did so I also wasn't I didn't I don't have that the teenager experience but I honestly don't think I would have anyway I just don't feel like that was really in in me that way.

So I don't know. I think it... You had to grow up pretty quickly, I guess. Yeah, totally. So what was your school experience like? Like, and it's funny because you guys obviously weren't in school at the same time. So was, did you guys go to the same school or did you end up in, you did? It was the same elementary school.

And what was that like for you, not speaking English as your first language and trying to, you know, integrate? great. Well, I remember one, it's funny because I feel like it's pretty symbolically represented and my first name is Carla with the K. And so because I didn't speak English, I always went by Camila. And basically like my friends from school up till now, they still call me Carla because I was so shy and I didn't speak English. So I never was like, hey, I would prefer to be called by Camila. So all the way from elementary school to high school, my friends called me Carla and my family called me Camila. So it was kind of like a almost like metaphorical like split identity thing.

And I didn't even like my first name. I just was like, it just kind of stuck. And I didn't really have the language or the tools to be like, actually I'd rather be called this. And I remember, I don't remember this, but my mom told me this that I guess they asked like, do you want to be an ESL, which is for people that don't speak English? Or no, they ask, do you speak English?

English or something. And I was just like, I don't know. I think I was just like almost too shy to speak up. And I'm sure that the language thing was a part of that. So the nature and nurture thing is really interesting because I think those circumstances probably are the reason why I am, I am probably the reason why I was like, you know, so obsessed with maybe like pop culture and musicians and music and, you know, like writing in my journal. probably a lot of it was because I felt so kind of awkward and out of place and you know what I made it's so fascinating and then what about you your your elementary school experience

like completely different yeah yeah yeah experience like it was fine and then what about music for you are you do you connect to music we have a very artistic family. My mom's an architect, but she also likes drawing, and I feel like I got that from her. I'm really good at sketching. I enjoy singing, and I like singing.

I had a phase with dancing, too. I also wanted to learn the electric guitar. I started playing the electric guitar, but what really stuck with me is that I really like acting more than like. Oh, really? Oh, fine. Yeah, I'd love to be an actress, but I do still really like, like, singing and all of that, but, like, I feel like acting in movies is more like,

like, I don't know, it connects more. because you can like music helps people but acting also helps because like you like help people through characters yeah i don't know like beautiful boy with timothy shallamee that movie could help so much people going through addiction whatever and there's like hundreds of movies that can help it's the best taste in movies i love watching movies it's a big sinophile i'm literally like i have an addiction like it's crazy it's so bad in the past two months i've finished five shows yeah like it's a problem it's a problem and she's so what's your running points not allowed you're not not to see a running point because I know obviously it's going to be your favorite show on television.

She loved adolescent. I loved. What was your favorite? What is your favorite show right now that you've watched in the last? In the last two months, severance literally was insane. And I like love shows that like I can make theories up in my head. And I'm usually right because I watch so much shows that like I know every little hint. Did you watch Paradise?

No, I haven't. It's on my list. Do you like sci-fi? Like, you dig that. Oh, I'm going to watch. Yeah, I was just told that I should. Someone said, we were doing this sort of exercise of like production companies and like what would go in my bubble of my production company if you were to like, you know.

Whole thing. And, and, and they said paradise. And I was like, I've got to see it. Like, I don't know. Like, rom-coms don't do enough for me unless like they break my heart. Like, one day on Netflix, like, killed me. I don't know that show. It's really good.

The movies that you love are like your. synophilia is so like you've watched so many classics I didn't watch classes until I was older like I feel like your taste is so refined for your age and in music too aren't movies the best aren't they they the best? Have you seen

Goodwill hunting yet? What yes I have so beautiful my son just saw that too that was random well because Bing is on this kick my middle side of classics he's got a list well he's watching everything that was me in 2020 you like he's just like he's just like he just watched Wolf of Wall Street he's watching

he's just watching every home he's 13 going to be 14 oh my god that's such a good time to be watching all those things and he said to me the other day he's like it teaches you so much it's a great movie for 13 yeah

it should be advertised because you get on me about what I show my kids when Bing's watching Wolf of Wall Street yeah but he's also Bing's also like but it's Scorsese I guess yeah so if it's Scorsese or a very prominent filmmaker.

I love Bing watch whatever he wants now. You do. Yeah, yeah. Okay. And he said to me the other day, Bing goes, I want to be a writer. And I want to write and direct my movies. I was just like, what? And he's like, yeah, because writing is like my thing.

And I'm like, that's so, it was like, I've never heard him say anything like that. And it's so fun, as your parents know, when you see your kids and you all of a sudden see them like. Click. click something, something, something, they're like, that's just,

like, I want to, I want to, do that happen? When did that happen with you? You know what I mean? When was that moment where it was like,

oh shit, I think this is what I'm supposed to do in the parents? You would like sing in like, we had like, not a basement, but a little thing and she'd be like, you'd be doing like karaoke by yourself.

I think I was always singing and then, like I can't remember a time where I wasn't singing and I wasn't like obsessed with music. But I think it was when I auditioned for X Factor. I was like obsessed with. with like One Direction and they did an ad for like auditioning for X Factor.

And I was like, you know, they were like regular, regular kids. I'm a regular, regular kid. I'm just going to try it. And then my life kind of changed. But I can't remember a time where I wasn't like obsessed with music. I always loved it. And I think it's interesting with Sophie because I feel like I was going to say when you were talking about like the dancing and the drawing, like something that I find so

fascinating about you is like you're so talented at so many things. Like when you had like your, she made this like. band with her friends called a what was it my father's wallet she's such a sick band name great name they sent me like two songs that they wrote right like palisades the freestyle should be on that yeah for sure it would fit perfectly it's so true it's so true the title palisades my father's wallet but like you sent me like two songs and I was like okay what the hell like these are incredibly written songs then the drawings like one time like she like drew my merch which was like it was so cool like the designs were so crazy like it's like she's so

talented at like so many different different things but I do think like you're like it's true what you're saying like the moment where you're like I really want to do this is like so exciting especially like you know seeing you like you know be a little a little toddler baby and I're like I really want to do acting it's like different than just like doing different things you're like oh it's just so interesting to watch you guys right now being 10 years apart, honestly, because you know, you've had so much life experience with what you do, and I want to actually ask about that as far as being 15, going into this business, your parents allowing you to do that because they knew that's what you loved and

you were extremely talented at, at the same time trying to protect you from this world as well and how they were able to navigate. It was probably more the opposite. They were probably out and like partying out at the bar when she's like singing. And then she was probably like, can someone please get my parents? Oh, my God. We have to go home. That's hilarious.

I want to hit on that, but also just going back to that, watching your little sister, you know, growing up and she's 18 and sort of growing into her talents and discovering all of these amazing things that she can do and then getting excited about how she's going to implement them and which one she's going to choose maybe all of them. It's exciting. It's the best because I'm like, oh, I can take all. All of my, I don't know, whether she wants it or not,

but just be like all of my mistakes, all of my, whatever, the things that I've learned, you're just kind of like, go, go, go. It's like fun to be a cheerleader, especially because it honestly gets so, this sounds like so annoying, but it's like, it's more fun when it's, it's very fun when it's not about you also in a career where it's like,

and when do we do for you, man, we're single. It's like so fun to be like, great. Yeah. Now let's focus on you. How do we make your dreams come true? You take it well or do you ever push back? Is there any sort of budding of heads between you guys being 10 years apart? Yeah, there's there's budding of heads.

I mean, like I feel like we talked about this recently. I remember I was like, you know, like I'm going to tell you things that maybe you don't want to hear. But that's me being like a good friend to you and a good sister to you. And also I feel like we have very different like ways of looking at things. again with like you're very like let's think about this calm and rationally and I'm like no we have to do it right now like yeah yeah yeah that's because you're in aries yeah we also we have different like views on certain things like what like I don't know how to explain it well one if he thinks like I'm on TikTok like a millennial and I'm like I am a millennial

and she can't be doing that it's like you have to do it this way because it's too millennial I'm like I don't know I don't know No, no, no, no, yeah. Like, if I ever get, like, overwhelmed or, like, if I need, like, or if I'm nervous or something, like, she gives me what I like to call, like, the Oprah pep talk where she just, like, to me, it's very, very sweet, but it's, like, a whole lot. It's a whole lot of nothing to me. Like, I would rather just, like, look in the mirror and just, like, be like,

Sophia, calm the fuck down, and then I just walk out and then I'm fine. Like, that stresses me out more. But for her, that would, like, literally, like, like, I know that for her, that's how it works for it. Like, I need to give you a pep talk. everything's fine whatever for me that like like it like makes me worse i want to hear i want to hear the oprah pep talk like what give me an example like yeah i think i hear though okay like it's just true how do you feel all he loves an opra pep talk okay well one i definitely i feel like i've been

doing therapy for the past few years so i think i try to therapist her yes in a way that i think is sneaky but it's actually not and i know it like i mean like i'm like i'll be like i'm like i'm like kate moss well you know you really have to like persistence is really the key. Like, you really just, you know, you can't give up. Like, even if you're tired, like, you just, it's really, it's not telling. It's really determination. And she'll be like, shut the fuck up.

Like, I know you're trying to like, I know you're trying to like sneaky impart advice. I don't know. I do know that I do that. And then I'm like, it's kind of like what you were saying. Like you're, I think it was before we started where you're like, let me just vent. And you're like trying to maybe fix things. Yeah, like you're doing solutions and I just like to like let it out. And then I'll deal with it on my own.

I can like it's like when I would go to like therapy or something I already know what he's going to say and I already know that it's the problem I just like like so there's no point you know what I mean like I like I know that I'm the problem I'm just like that's not the point because for you in relationships oh yeah is going to be so challenging because uh men all want to fix everything yeah they just so true they're like every time in every relationship I have ever been in when I am like this is da-da-da-da and this is what's going on and then they always want to try to fix it I'm like can you yeah can you this is so it's so annoying yeah I don't need I'm gonna fix it I'm gonna fix it he's like going he's like sinking into the couch I agree but at the same time you know Aaron my wife sometimes I'm like just listen because she's like I'm like I just feel like this I feel like that well I mean maybe it's because of this this and then I'm like I don't I don't need that right now. Yeah, yeah.

You can just listen to me. Oh, you're saying it's the opposite. Like, you need to be listening. Yeah, sometimes, yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, you don't want this solution. I think men don't like when their partner is feeling bad or sad. And I think there's a maybe a primal trigger of some kind where it gets sort of frustrating.

Right. You know, I'm like, oh, God, just feel, just feel okay. Yeah. Oh, fuck, just feel okay. So I can feel okay. Yeah, so true. Because when you're feeling like shit, I don't, just get it together. There's this thing, and there seems to be a pattern with a lot of men that I know who feel the same way.

And I think it's a trigger because when you don't feel good, I don't feel good. It's so true. Oh, get a hold of yourself. I just don't like it. I'm crying. Let me feel good without you having to not feel good too. Let me feel bad. Yeah, like, why is everything about them?

Why is everything about you? But then the alternative is this. Hey, babe, like, you know, I'm just feeling this and this and that. You don't want me to fix anything. So it's like, okay, yeah, cool, peace. I'm going to go play some goal. No, you have to be like, yeah, you have to. That really sucks.

That must feel bad. Yeah. Or you just say like, yeah, God, you know. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to feel that way. But what if you want to be like, hey, do you think you could maybe be looking at this the wrong way? Is that such an annoying thing to say? Because the thing is when somebody tells us.

me that I'm like I'm mad but I'm but I really I'm like yeah really am listening it's what you said it's very helpful for me I'm like I'm like an advice junkie right you love advice not it not necessarily like advice and also you know like I listen to like podcasts that are like self-helpy like I'm like that person like I'm like Oprah please like tell me the tips and I will do them every day I'm listening to this thing called wait I have this a podcast app called waking up I really like I love that love that app I know yeah yeah and I listen to these just lectures me too like like like and everyone's like what are you waking up Sam Harris that's my Friday night I've been listening to I've been

you didn't put me on to waking up Sam Harris shut up I've been listening to this since the beginning what is it is that you didn't have anything to do is me getting yeah I know you're listening Sam we know the truth about all this shit anyway I love I love waking up I love it and I just like put it on meditation is good even if meditated for a long time and understand it I did his little intro to meditation and it was fucking great you know oh it's great did I tell you about waking up I think we'd be the other way around yeah no and I and the lectures to me or something where I could just like put that on go for a walk I need to hear it all the time all the time and then right now I'm reading a book

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because I would want to know how not to try to fix things, how to walk the line of listening and being attentive, and at the same time, not being overbearing with trying to fix it. Meaning you come to, we're married, you come to me with a problem I got this this and this and I'm feeling this what am I supposed to say I feel like it's nice to say like I totally get that that must be really hard yeah like you kind of have to complain like if you're one of her friends like oh this guy out working on a night yeah he's so like you know what I mean you just like let her

that's good too that's just like just like yeah yeah just like just straight up just like agree and be like yeah they're terrible like you know what you deserve the best like they're They're terrible. Like, they suck. God, I know, I feel bloated, too.

Yeah. Like, God, the period cramp suck. They're like, oh, yeah,

I know. My breasts are tender. No, I know. God, I know. I don't, my aerial

lives are really big as well. You're crying. I know. Not the aerial. This is great, because you're learning. I want that, too.

I think we're similar. I'm like, just agree with me. It's fun to shit talk and like bitch. Yeah, exactly. My mom and I, I decided one day because it would be like, mom would always say, preface, and he's like, I don't mean to complain. But I'm like, mom, you know what, we need to complain. Oh my God, it feels so good.

We're going to go to lunch and we're only going to complain the whole time. It feels bad. That's a fun one. We should do that. And then we said and we started and then we started and then we started. And then we, like, got into other things. I'm like, no, no, no, we need to, we're complaining. And she's like, okay.

And we, and it's so funny. And we laughed. We laughed. That's so fun. I love that. So sometimes you need a complaining lunch. That's a fun thing to do. Yeah.

It's good. Well, I'm different than like, you know, you hear this, the cliches of, you know, husbands having to listen to their wives issues with their friends and you're kind of like, I love it. Whenever wife comes into the bench, she goes, oh my God, so you'll know. ever know what happened with so and so i'm like oh my god i love that you know like she said that all he puts he puts on his silk robe and then i'm like then what happens he puts on his silk robe and his slippers and he's like tell me i love the i love the gossip stuff yeah i love a bit of gossip i'm like i can't believe she's

like that like i love that that's really fun no i love it but wait i like this for siblings because it's one thing for relationships and the truth is like relationships the thing that bothers me about relationships is like I don't really want like I don't always want him to be the person that is the person that I'm doing everything with like yeah for sure it's not I feel like that's not good yeah like like my it's like it's like you know what esther perelle always says but it's like you have this expectation that your partner is supposed to be everything to you on the planet like they need to be the person that's your best friend they need the person like does everything for you properly they need to like cook for you they need to like you know make sure that they

pamper you with something all that you know like they have to do everything versus like maybe the sibling dynamic needs to be more of the listening dynamic they need to do everything for you they need to come over but but but you should listen to me more what do you mean I do no no like really like I need you I need you more than what you like as a okay as like he he you need to you don't really ask no no I need to call you and you need to just not say anything. I feel like we do this, right? You need to not say anything and just let me talk about whatever I want to talk about.

And then and then let me say, okay, what do you think? So I'll just put you on mute. And then should be text when you're done. Siblings should be the sounding board. I agree with that. Right? Not your partner. The partner shouldn't be a sounding board.

Your siblings should be your sounding board. And then after you rant and say, do you want my. advice or no and then you say yes or no and then we move on like that's kind of nice and they'll they will always say no i think it's kind of i think it's kind of like a well honestly if you ask it like that i probably would say yes it depends yeah just can't be shoved down your throat no no do you like i do that all the time what i feel like i'm kind of you do you you try and you say it out loud but like I know that it's coming from a place of like you're trying to help yeah do you feel like I'm gonna ask like a controversial question because because mama's here okay do you feel like I'm better

at it than mama though I'm so sorry but like no I'm saying I'm saying when you're overwhelmed when you're overwhelmed unfortunately you and mama are on the same level whatever no it's not bad that you're asking that question but the thing is is that you're more of like a ranting thing and mama's like a comfort thing. Can I tell you something that happened, though, 30 minutes ago? Oh, it's so funny. I literally was like, Mama started talking to you about something and she was like, remember, she was like, blah, blah, blah, blah, like, don't, like when you're on,

and then I see my sister getting like, like, overwhelmed. And I literally when you were in the car, I was like, Mama, no stress. I know, you try and keep quiet, I have God ears. I hear everything. I feel like I'm always like telling her, like you're stressing her out. Stop, stop telling her that. Stop telling her. I know, but you both stress me out.

But I would say In different ways It's like how you were saying That you go to different people For like different needs That they fulfill My mom calms me down more But my sister rants more

Who would you go to with like boy issues? For like unbiased I go with my mom Because she's gonna tell me If I messed up or not Bias I go with my sister Okay And so you

It's like more advice With boys Like you mess up more than you don't No it's more of like I don't know how to explain it Like my mom's gonna like call me out more like even if I didn't do something wrong you'd be like but you can maturely handle it

instead of like me being able to like crash out and like be a teenage girl right with boys to be honest I'm kind of like okay I see I see that this is happening but I'm just gonna like you make your own mistakes because I feel like with boys you can't be advised out of boys yeah I just feel like you can't especially at that age great point at that age it's like you're not going to be like hey like do you feel like this is a little toxic yeah like my mom wants me to act like if I'm like, like, 27, like, mature and whatever. I'm like, let me crash out. Yeah.

Let me do something. You're not going to look at it in a healthy way at 18. Like when I was, it's like, I'm like, girl, just do it. Let me ask a question, though, being this 10 years. Do you ever give her advice about boys? Yeah. Yeah. You know, because it's interesting from a 10 year younger perspective, you know,

there has to be some sort of respect there. You listen to your sister when she goes, look, here's what I see. I know I'm 10 years younger, but I have a perspective. that you might not. I called it out with your first boyfriend. I didn't like him. And I called him a jerk and then my mom got mad at me. And then I had to say draft instead.

And I remember that very vividly. And I was right. Yeah. I think you have very intuitive senses about people. And I think that just like everybody, you can see other people's things. You can see. Hey guys. You can see other people's like when I'm like really emotional and whatever.

You can see it from a very objective way. and we can never see it when it's your own impulses. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I know. And sometimes it's fun just to like not deal with it. Like the, like you're saying. Like you kind of have to come to the realization yourself.

You really do. You have to get back with that person 10 times. That's what you said. You can't advise. I forget the word of advice out. Advice someone out of a boy. A boy. You know, it's like when you're set, I hear you, but.

Oh, my God. Literally. Then you see them in person and you're like, yay. I know. You're like, you're right, yeah. And you know, and you know, too. It's like, I think, I think sometimes it's hard. I think for me with girls, it's more like, and my girlfriends,

it's like when you see someone who literally never takes, not only anyone's advice, but like can't, is really, like, can't see it for themselves. Then there comes a time where you're exhausted. by your friend you're like you've told me the same story like five thousand times i know who i'm taught i love her and she's my karma because i was her but you literally like you've you've you're literally beating your head against a wall he's yeah i mean i have friends that i'm like he's cheated on you like a thousand times and you're still asking me what i think like he's a dick he needs to go you need to move on you're better than this and it doesn't matter what I say so but like I can't hear it

anymore yeah and I've had friends like that where I've had to be like I can't hear this anymore because now now I'm just enabling you to like have someone treat you like shit and I'm tired of it I'm tired of saying the same shit over and over again you know and you just repeating it and I I don't know I feel like it's it's frustrating oh my dude it's relatable in a sense like I can't like because you know because you've been through it yeah yeah that's the thing with me it's like my friends like I will let her complain there's a specific friend that I'm thinking about you know who I'm thinking about yeah I let her complain and like I'll be like yeah and I understand like I have to like Oprah like therapy or in a little bit like I understand how you're feeling but it's wrong and then I have

to like remind her of like yeah you miss the good stuff but like remember like all of the bad shit like you just have to like I have to listen to it just because like that was me and like I can't like Because you made her sit through all your stuff. Not even her. Just like I've made people. And like I feel like that's my karma. Like I have to. Like I have to listen to and let you rant.

And also because like if I don't let her rant, then like who is she going to rant too? Like you know what I mean? Yeah. I feel bad. I don't know. Yeah. I ran to chat GPT all the time. Me too.

Okay. By the way, talk about somebody who is good at. I'm awesome therapist. Like hearing you vent and then reassure you and then be like, do you want some help with that? And you're like, yes. That's insane. You're talking to chat GPT about your problems. Oh, yeah.

That's crazy. You could be like, hey, my boyfriend just, you know, got upset with me because I said this and then this was his response and then I felt like this. And then I didn't know what to do. And I'm trying to figure out how to like explain to him that I feel this way. And it'd be like, wow, that sounds like you're having a really tough time. Oh my God. Ready? Hi. Can you act as my therapist? I'm having an issue with my brother Oliver. He has incredibly

low self-esteem and it just feels like he's incredibly jealous of all of the things that I do and I don't know how to actually express that it hurts my feelings. Allegedly. Can you help me? You're about to who's a whoop your ass. Right. Allegedly. This is just play. This is play time. That sounds painful. She's like, is it Oliver Hudson? Hey, thanks for sharing. Hey, thanks for sharing. I'm really glad you reached out. That sounds painful when someone you care about,

especially a sibling treats you in a way that feels rooted in jealousy and insecurity. Reassurance. It can leave you feeling unseen or even punished for your success. And it's doubly hard when you're trying to be sensitive to their feelings, but feel like yours don't get the same care. What is this? Can I ask, what are some of the ways his jealousy shows up?

Like, does he criticize you, withdraw, make sarcastic comments, try to one-up you or something else? And what happens inside you when he does? And then it keeps going, but it's amazing. And it's helpful. It's really helpful. I mean, it's pretty standard fair. I mean, it's like psychology 101, right? You know?

And all of it was just hypothetical. Yes. Okay, wait. We got to stop. up. We're cutting this in half, Oliver, because it's so great, and we're going to keep going to keep going to do two-part episode. We love you, listeners,

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