Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Camila Cabello: From Harmony to Havana (Part Two)

Episode Date: May 8, 2025

If you thought part one was juicy, wait until you hear everything Camila just admitted to! From her relationship status to her celebrity crush...Camila and her sister Sofia came to revel but stayed to... reveal! Meanwhile, pucker up buttercup because Kate just dropped a behind-the-scenes bomb about the best on-screen kisser!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an IHeart podcast. September is a great time to travel, especially because it's my birthday in September, especially internationally. Because in the past, we've stayed in some pretty awesome Airbnbs in Europe. Did we've one in France, we've one in Greece,
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Starting point is 00:02:44 Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling ravelry. No, no. Sibling revelry. Don't do that with your mouth.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Sibling reverie. That's good. Part two. A part two. How do you say part in French? Pardue? I would say part in French. It's not part.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Part? Girard de Part two. Gerard de Parts Too. Oh my God. Welcome to Gerard de Part Two. I have a question. So when did you start to become known and what was that like? Were you super little?
Starting point is 00:03:58 Do you even remember? I was like five. Yeah, so you don't even remember. So you were all caught on video. Yeah. Which is crazy because that was on X Factor. Yeah, no, I was just having a time talking to random people. Hey.
Starting point is 00:04:10 There was this one video. That one video of her talking to fans and she was so sassy. And she was like, she was like, my sister loves Justin Bieber. Yeah. I didn't. Well, it was Harry Stiles and I lied saying that it was Justin Bieber. So technically I did lie. But it's the cute.
Starting point is 00:04:29 this video she's like five and she's like she wants to marry him oh my god and she's like cute with like her little ring like curls like she was so cute oh that's so cute so cute so you don't remember like life before your sister was a big pop star i didn't really see a difference to be honest like at all it's just what you always know yeah like it's just my sister like i don't see her as like the like pop star like it's my sister i'm just your struggling sister yeah i'll see this so weird just a weird bitch that but you don't ever watch her and have sort of like do you get excited for her like when she's like when i was younger i'd be like so confused i like found out that like things were pre-recorded on tv because we were on she was on x factor and i saw her on the screen and i remember my shock
Starting point is 00:05:18 of i was like wait if she's right there she's also right next to me on the couch and that's when i like figured out the TVs were pre-recorded that's so funny oh that's really cute i freaked out when I was like, how is she next to me and on TV at the same time? Where did music come from for you? Was it your own, or was it something you were around when you were? I think we're around a lot of music. I think we have a very musical family.
Starting point is 00:05:40 My dad, like, singing too. Oh, my gosh, like my dad, that's like his distress. Really? He sings. Yeah, he's on the karaoke machine. Luis Miguel, you know that vibe? What is it? Luis Miguel.
Starting point is 00:05:52 You love that guy? Miguel, Luis Miguel. Yeah. Miguel, the R&B artist? I love Miguel. No, it's not Miguel. It's Miguel. Miguel.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Yeah, like, that's, like, his outlet. What's the name of it? Luis Miguel. Luis Miguel. Yeah. Oliver. Luis Miguel. Oh, Alejandro's Hans, Papa, I love it.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so did he, so he sings. He sings, my, our grandma is obsessed with music. She would make, like, mixtapes of boleros, which are kind of, like, Cuban ballads. Like, we, for Father's Day, we rewrote the lyrics to this song. Oh, yeah. Really? To make it, like, about our dad.
Starting point is 00:06:27 and we did like a funny music video to it was really cute oh so okay so so when you watch you guys such an awesome family i just it's it's you can feel i don't even know any of you all but if you feel like a lot of love thank you i mean for real you know especially with them being here i know it's so true and i and and how is that for you in terms of like i always say for me that i know that my relationship to my work and my whatever that that sort of celebrity is on the outside, which doesn't really feel real. I'd have a very different relationship to it
Starting point is 00:07:04 if I didn't have such a great, grounded family. For sure, because that can end up being where you want to get your love from. Right. And I feel like, to me, I'm always like, you know, I also think when you were saying, like what's it like your sister's celebrity or whatever?
Starting point is 00:07:21 I think she's also seen, she sees all the behind the scenes of it in the sense of like when I'm having a hard time, And when I am stressed by work things, when I'm always like, hey, what should I do about this? Like, hey, like, I don't really understand. Like, I'm like, I don't know about TikTok. Like, it makes me feel bad, like, blah, blah, blah. Like, I feel like you're always, you really have helped me through a lot of those things.
Starting point is 00:07:43 And I feel like it's like that with our family where it's like whatever we do, it's like enterprise that we do together. Same with like you're acting. Like I'm like, okay, like, what's the best school that you can go to? What's the best? You know what I mean? So it's almost like your dream is. like everyone's dream, which is kind of nice.
Starting point is 00:07:58 So do you want, do you want? And your happiness. Totally. Do you want the stardom? Do you want the fame? It's a weird question because most people say, no. Not even like the stardom. I just like, I'm like very heavy on the fact that like, like, movies help me so much.
Starting point is 00:08:13 And like whenever I'm like having a bad day, like I lock myself in my room and I watch like every movie like ever possible that like comfort movies. And like I just like I want to be that for somebody. Okay. But what if I told you? Your passion. I got to ask this question. What if I told you? that you would have that experience,
Starting point is 00:08:30 but it would be, say, regional in one area. You would be, you know, you would be able to have all of your dreams in terms of making movies and acting, but you wouldn't be famous. I'd honestly be okay with that. Yeah. It's like the kind of thing that, like,
Starting point is 00:08:47 you still get, you still get, like, whatever the money, you can do whatever, but like I can still walk around and like nobody, like, you know what I mean? What if there's no money? Kurt. Yeah, what if there's no money? What if it was community theater?
Starting point is 00:08:58 If community theater, well then I'd have to also have another job plus that. Then I'd have to do like psychology or like what if like my new job now I can't do acting while doing that? Kurt said to me like what if I told you it would only be community theater and like you would have to substitute. I'd like I'd still do it because I love it. Because it brings you joy. Totally. And he and and the thing is is like that that is the because it's so tumultuous as you know seeing what you're. seeing what you know anything like performance based or creative that is really about like
Starting point is 00:09:32 it's only like if people don't want to watch it if people don't want to go see it then you're not going to be able to go do that and work you know it's like it's it's really reliant on so many other people and so many other things acting even more so than what you do it's like you know if you get the job like oh my god amazing um so So if what brings you happiness is like only that, then you're just, you're just fucked because you're going to be so unhappy because it's like you're always reliant on someone else to get you that job. It's really interesting.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Well, I think it's the only similarity I feel like with music is that the people that are, I don't know, instead of a director, you're counting on people, the volatility and the ups and downs of whatever people's tastes are, what they like, what they don't. don't like. So I think there is like there's an interesting concept where it's like there's a slight danger and the thing that you love that's a hobby also kind of being interwoven with business too because you're like you would do it for free because you love it so much. But then suddenly it just kind of can get more complex. I mean I don't regret it at all. I get to do what I love. But it's a good question. How do you navigate that though? Because you're navigating art and commerce I guess meaning yeah. Okay well this is what I feel like. For sure. But but now it's like labels. or this isn't really what's hot. Totally, totally. How do you do that? How do you go about that?
Starting point is 00:11:01 Is it like one for me, one for them? I think it's honestly constant soul searching for me. I feel like it's like I never find the answer. Do you ever have to compromise being like, fuck, I don't really want to do this, but I know it's, I know it's, I know what, I know why I have to. I haven't in a really long time. But that also, you know, that's also sometimes you don't get as much maybe calm to that way.
Starting point is 00:11:27 So it's something that I'm always kind of juggling and thinking about. But I do think that's why it's so important to, I feel for people who don't have that family system because it can be like I want to get my love and support from these people. And for me, I'm like, you know what? No matter what, I have a lot of love in my life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:52 It doesn't matter. And I try to come from it from more of a source. of giving in the sense I know that sounds terrible but like I don't want to make myself sound like oh my god like whatever I'm not like a doctor or astronaut or whatever but from the perspective of like how can I just like share my gifts with people in a way that brings them happiness and joy as opposed to what can I get out of it because I I feel like this the latter makes me feel kind of anxious and graspy and the other one makes me feel like how can make the best music and the best video so that other people are inspired i remember when my ex
Starting point is 00:12:31 fiancee bing's dad invited me to his show and i didn't really know him as an artist but i went to paris and i you know got in the car with him and we were going to the show and i didn't realize that he was playing like the stad de france and it was like 90 000 people and i'd never seen him live i had no idea and i remember sitting on the side of the stage and he was like all right yeah see a little bit and i'm glad you're here and i was like yeah great and and then i remember watching him and it was like watching someone just a completely different person and go out on stage and the place just went completely insane and there he was like and i and people were just like they fucking loved him so much and I was like oh to know what that feels like to be someone in that position is must be a total
Starting point is 00:13:32 mind fuck because that is extreme adoration yeah like what and then and then you add like music on top of it it's very different than I think like acting where it's like then you add the music on top of it and it's just so ordained it's so highly ordained it's so like vibrate the vibration is so powerful it's powerful it's music you know and then and then the adoration it's it's almost like hunger games you're like what is this and then you like walk off stage and have to like live a normal life well Matt that was the trip for me because I met Matt and Kate's like this is my man and he's like hey hey cheer you and I come to go garden in the back I'm to have some tea and he's like this slight little guy
Starting point is 00:14:21 and he's like, hey, hello, blah. You know, I was like, oh, is he in parliament? Like, I was like, and all of a sudden, Kate's like, come to his show and he comes down on the stage,
Starting point is 00:14:30 his hair's like, it'll spike down, he's like, we will destroy! Yeah! Like, what the fuck is going on right now? Who is this little man that just grew 10 feet?
Starting point is 00:14:45 Right. You know, it was unbelievable to walk. All he turns out. to me. And then it comes off stage. We were at Staples. Yeah, we're like, what did you think? Hello?
Starting point is 00:14:52 Want some tea? I'm like, what do you mean? Like, who are you? Yeah. Now I'm scared. All over turns to me. We're like in the thing. He turns to me.
Starting point is 00:15:00 He goes, I don't buy it. I don't buy it. Oh, which character did you not buy? It was, oh, so funny. Yeah. Still don't know, right. But there is a sense of, my point is, is that, like,
Starting point is 00:15:15 live performance and and that kind of like, like immediate um validation is so different than when you live behind a camera and you exist sort of in a completely different world in this like weird circus world where people are like totally out there and weird making these crazy movies and it's not very glamorous at all and then all of a sudden you go on a red carpet and people feel like they know you but there's no that's all you know and then you just have like people who write about you you know you don't get that kind of like and then maybe you know you have people who come up and go I love that movie I love
Starting point is 00:15:52 your show it's not that instant feedback that grader you know that just boom yeah that's why I always like wonder when you see a sibling like I wonder what that would feel like to to watch her like go from being like you know the sister that's giving you this advice that you don't want to like I love that title for me yeah advice that you don't want and like being kind of like more controlled knows and then all of a sudden she's like out on stage like shaking her you know but and like being all hot and owning it I don't know I feel like I can always see like the weird sister through that but like I like I do think that it's very cool when I was younger I would be like a little bit more like starstruck yeah now it's like I know like damn well like she's tired yeah so you can see it yeah see when she's like in it and like having a great time I can see like the complete like I can see her lock in like in a matter of seconds and then she goes and then I see her lock out as soon as she goes back and see more you see and I found this too in in meeting people that I listen to and people who are my kind of musical heroes it's like the more you kind of know them and the more you see the behind the scenes you're just like it's less of the facade and smoke and mirrors and you're like it's not it's not really them it's like more what they represent yeah you know that people love, but you kind of depersonalize it.
Starting point is 00:17:25 September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in, and how to make it feel like home.
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Starting point is 00:22:36 right. She's like, there's too much T and T in this one. Okay, wait. Wait. Yeah. Yeah. Lessing the tour. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:43 When are you going on tour? June. Oh, exciting. What venues are, kind of venues are you playing? We're doing some theaters. We're doing some festivals. Kind of a mix of things.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Oh, my God. You're going together? I mean, how incredible is that? It's going to be so fun. Well, she has her, this is her senior year, so she's not going the whole time. Which I love that for her.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Is it next year or this year? This is my senior year. But I want like my like summer of senior year. Yeah, yeah. So I'd only be going for two weeks. So we're in, where are you going to, you're going to go to Europe. I'm like, okay, so you're blowing shit up in Europe. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:21 And where are you playing in Europe? Do you know? Like which venue? Like where, like what area is. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to London. Okay. To Paris.
Starting point is 00:23:30 We're going to Madrid. Oh, fun. Germany. I went to Glastonbury four years ago. It was Paul McCartney's 80th birthday and he was headlining. Oh. And my best friend is Stella or one of my best friend. friends. One of my best friends is Stella.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Which one? Stella. Okay. And then we did this really fun thing where we brought like, there's this hotel that we love is right by Glastonbury and we rented the whole thing out and it was just our friends and family. It was so much fun. That's really fun. And then we all went in and out of Glastonbury and I'll never forget because we had this amazing writer-director who I won't say, but who I have so much respect for.
Starting point is 00:24:21 And I don't know what happened to me at this festival, but it was like I couldn't stop crying. It was like something hit me and I was like, I'm not living my authentic creative life. And I was, it was like, and then I had this thing about how like, people change and how art is like the most it just shapes culture and the importance of it and like what are we really putting out in the world and the day row versus wade was overturned
Starting point is 00:24:55 you've got the Beatles who are the most were the most progressive like you know i'm watching paul mccartney sing i thought about like all of the things he's been through in his life all of the revolutions that they've like started and and been a part of and and yet we're still in this time where we're still trying to like figure it out figure it out 100% and art is at the center of change I was bawling my eyes out and then I got in this thing and this artist was like this writer-director was like you know you don't compromise and I'm like but you have to compromise and he goes no fuck that you don't Do not compromise your art.
Starting point is 00:25:39 You don't. And I thought, wow, what an amazing spirit to have as. He's very successful. Or she is very successful. Very successful. He's very successful. But what an amazing thing to actually own is to be uncompromising. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I'm still trying to figure that out because I want everyone to feel happy and I don't want to, like, create turbulence. And so, therefore, I feel like I compromise art. But, like, what an amazing thing. And then out of that, like, what amazing. art we have to like put out you know into the world like if you actually think more about your art like it's not about what you like or what the label wants or what they think that they need this is just purely like an expression and it's going to be uncompromised it's so liberating
Starting point is 00:26:26 it is um anyway it was just a rant it was just a rant you're still i'm sure there was a thing but i made HD and i just kept going it started somewhere and then all of a sudden went There was a question. I let the Stella McCartney and it came back. I was talking about uncompromised art and then I lost the question. Yeah, I think it's like it's interesting because I do feel like I think about it so much because I do think there is a thing to feeding people, for example, like, you know, sometimes people don't just want the broccoli.
Starting point is 00:26:56 They want like, you know, the broccoli with some soy sauce. Like where it doesn't, maybe it's like you package things in a way where it's like the sneaky medicine. Do you know what I mean? So I think about that with art sometimes. It's interesting because a true starving artist will never, ever, ever compromise and they will die, you know, poor a lot of artists do. They have, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Yeah, so, but there are, I think you are, you can start to be uncompromising once you've reached a level of success to where then you can do what the fuck you want to do. Because you have to make a living. as well if in fact you want to earn money doing your art I also think that you know that the starving artist maybe you know it could be more self-serving which is fine you know it's like you're making it for you yes but then sometimes it's like well what if this makes exactly what if this is also what other people enjoy I don't really know the answer I think everybody kind of has to find it for
Starting point is 00:28:03 themselves mm-hmm but I do think about it a lot where it's like I think Somebody told me, like, you know, that some artist told another artist, like, when you make music, are you looking in the mirror or are you looking at your fans? And I feel like, I'm always looking in the mirror. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. But I was like, that's really interesting. Like, what if I did? What if I, you know, sometimes, not all the times, made some things that were for my fans.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Because also there's a lot of things that we enjoy that are like that. There's a lot of music that I listened to when I was younger and even now where I'm like, this is just fun. And maybe they didn't necessarily. explore a new version of themselves with it that felt so good for them. But I really like it. I can morph from the thought of I am a fan. So like, what do I like? Like, I know that, I know, like, when I love to hear a song and I, it gives me something,
Starting point is 00:28:58 like, artistically, I want to be creating what I would be a fan of. For sure. You know, and take me out of the equation. you know, which is really an interesting prompt. Like, oh, you know, you go, you know, when you go and you get inspired by another artist, it's like, and you look right and you're like, oh, I want to be in this and I want to create art for my fan, for me as a fan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which, you know, it's like what kind of movies do you love to watch? It's so true.
Starting point is 00:29:28 You know, what kind of like. But even, but even so if you're like starting out, you know, first of all, where are you at with acting? Like, are you, what's the plan? We just saw a school called the Strasbourg. Lee Strasbourg, yeah. But also I've been doing classes with an acting teacher that my sister introduced me to for the past like year and a half or something. But now that I'm 18, it's like it would be time to like start actually doing stuff.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And is it like theater in Florida? What's the, what's the vibe? Well, I would be coming here to California just because next year just because also in Florida when my acting teacher was telling me that like in different parts of the states it's like different types of acting like in florida it's like advertisement and commercials yeah so i would come here you want so you want to you want to make movies yeah movies and tv yeah well you're an interesting place because again you know you have to sort of make money and compromise and get your foot in the door so you might be doing shit that you necessarily aren't
Starting point is 00:30:28 my whole career is me doing things that i'm not in love with because i'm i'm supporting my life And I love doing it, but, you know, one day. I had this great teacher. He's gone now. Milton Cicellis. He was a site. Yeah, he was very much Scientologist, which was an interesting approach in the way that he saw, like, being an actor. Because his whole thing was like, why are you doing this?
Starting point is 00:31:03 It's not therapy. We're not here to watch you do your therapy We're here to watch you Give us like perform We want to be engaged And then he would see certain actors And certain people would come in I forget what it was called
Starting point is 00:31:15 Like dead head theater or something And he'd be like When was last time you had a job And when he asked that question It was like oh boy here we go And then you'd be like a guy or woman Or man going like Well it's been like a year and a half
Starting point is 00:31:30 Oh like an acting job Yeah like an actual act It's been here And he'd be like why you know I just I don't know and he's like you have three months and and and you'd have to get a job or you were out you wouldn't you weren't allowed to be in his class anymore and what I liked about that was it was cutthroat it's like this isn't a business this isn't a business for like the soft energy like it's hard if you get a job
Starting point is 00:31:58 you know Sophia doesn't you got to take no she's she's gonna she's gonna eat it up Yeah. Rapid Fire. You ready? Who's more competitive? Me. I said it first too. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Who got in trouble more as kids? Me. This is so good. Yeah. Of course. What's a funny nickname you had for each other growing up? khaki for her toffee tofi or kooky yeah kooky or tofi one thing you never agree on
Starting point is 00:32:42 movies I feel oh and music well actually no music you like my music I don't like your music what don't we agree on mama this isn't very rapid what kind of it never is I feel like also honestly where to where to order food from I mean I don't know what kind of music why do you like her music
Starting point is 00:33:07 yeah does that count why do you like Camilla's music well because she's like no not the music you make I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:33:14 the music you listen to because like I don't know like she chooses the worst like she likes like soulful music sometimes and like it'll literally be like coincidentally like the day that like
Starting point is 00:33:24 I like break up with my boyfriend and then she starts playing the most depressing soulful and I'm just trying to I actually remember one time I think I was playing a bunch of like the like the Taylor Swift album like the like the national floor like like the national and like bonnie yeah and like 20 minutes later I look and my sister's just like
Starting point is 00:33:43 tears streaming down like face to the window trying to pull myself together and I was like and it's always what kind of music do you like to listen to kind of everything are you like now what yes but I love like it's like I'm a very in the seasons type of like like now in the summer I'm like I make a playlist like every like week and right now I'm making like a car playlist for the beach and it's like reggae hippie like some indie some like the Sundays and like it's just a little mix of everything. Who's your favorite new artist right now? New artist? New on the scene like getting popping like a popping. Like a popping artist there's a lot of them. No. What about you? Like who's somebody that you're like I like chapolron. Yeah. Oh yeah. Chapel Rhone. Yeah. Yeah. I really like
Starting point is 00:34:31 Chapparone's music a lot. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. She's a good writer, too. She's such a good writer. I actually met her. I was, she's so tiny. Is she?
Starting point is 00:34:40 Yeah, I didn't realize she was little. She's like, you know. I love, like, tiny, like, powerful girls. Yeah, it was just amazing. I really do. You do? Yeah, because you don't expect it. You're sort of like, oh my gosh, because she's so bigger than, she's like, bigger than life.
Starting point is 00:34:55 It's like when you see like Shakira and she's like so tiny. And you're like, whoa, that's so cool. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. what's um who's more likely to cry during like a oh i'm like made of stone what you mean you or me you i don't know it depends i have to be like really stone you're not emotional oh wait really fed up during a movie like any any sentiment to me you but in movies i cry a lot more
Starting point is 00:35:25 like there's like been like heartbreaking movies where you don't cry that's true who's more Who cries more? Oh. Self. Mom says yes. Oh, what about first celebrity crush? Grant Guston. Who?
Starting point is 00:35:42 Who? Grand Guston was my first celebrity crush. Who is that? The Flash. Oh, yeah, the Flash. Yes, yes, yes. Okay, I don't know. You know, his name was Grant Guston, Gug, Gu, Gagga.
Starting point is 00:35:51 That's a lot of G's in his name. Okay. Harry Stiles. Actually, he wasn't my first. Okay. Probably like Robert Pattinson from Twilight was my first. or the guy or Lucas Till from the Hannah Montana movie or honestly, Zach Ephron from high school
Starting point is 00:36:04 meals was my, oh my goodness. I mean like going back through the obsessive crushes. Zach Ephron was the first. Troy Bolton. Like the host of blues clues. Or Cameron Boyce. I was obsessed with Cameron Boys. With who? Cameron Boys.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Okay. I loved him. I was obsessed with him. What about one word you would use to describe each other? Bubbly. for you? For me? I think you would be like
Starting point is 00:36:35 precious. Okay, you want to ask? I have one rapid fire question for you. Can you say who your best, like you probably get asked this a lot, your best on screen kiss was. It's such a stupid question, but I'm wondering.
Starting point is 00:36:51 I have an asses. That's such a silly question. I have announced that I always feel so bad and they actually asked me this on a vanity fair, like, lie detector test? Oh, they did? No.
Starting point is 00:37:03 And I was like, well, how do I answer this question? Was there anyone you kissed that you felt like tingling? Like, ooh. Oh, that's a better question. By the way, that's the thing about acting too. Yeah. Yeah, you got. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:37:17 For sure. Billy Crudow. Okay. He was a stud. Billy, for sure. I love it. He, I tingled. He did be.
Starting point is 00:37:24 He did have to do. Okay. All right. No, I mean, yeah, she tingled everywhere. I had a massive crush on him. I was like young and he was like this hot like, like. Yeah, who resembled, he resembled that.
Starting point is 00:37:38 He looked just like our father. He's like weird beady eyes. What if one day you work with somebody who's been your celebrity crush? Oh, that's a weird question. If you could have to have a stage kiss. Oh my God. Yeah. Nicholas Alexander Chavez on the dot.
Starting point is 00:37:54 We already chosen. The guy who's already chosen. You know in the sibling one that actually you should. Monsters, Nikola Zadena and Chavez is my husband and I will have him. Oh, he has a girlfriend right now. It doesn't matter. It's okay. They kill their parents.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Victoria, I'm sorry if you're listening. Yes. You mean, uh. The Menendez brothers. We should have them on. You should, but they're not siblings. They're fictional siblings. They're fictional siblings.
Starting point is 00:38:15 That would be fun. Yeah. Okay, that. We tried to get the actual Menendez brothers. What about you? In love with him. What? Like somebody, I feel like I like, I have a boyfriend, so I feel like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Oh, you have a BF? I have a BF. Okay. So then we can. Is this known? has known that you have a BF? No. It is now.
Starting point is 00:38:32 When we cut, I'm going to find out who the BF is. Yeah, I'll tell you. What about, um, I would say my on-screen, who you would like to make out with would be mine is Ava Mendez. That's a good one. Oh, that's cute. I've been in love with her for a long time. Oh, Ava's the best.
Starting point is 00:38:57 I might be able to beat him up. Cuban. Yeah. You're gonna, you're gonna, oh, yeah. I can beat, I mean, I'm back. I know Ron's like, he's shorter. You want to beat up, gossling? I do not want to.
Starting point is 00:39:08 I'm saying if it came down to it, I think I might be able. Ava, are you hearing this? Yeah. I feel like you have like some height on him, but he's got, he feels like he's He's mussely. He is, Ken. But I'm very slippery and very quick.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Interesting. He'll just. Slipperies. Yeah, interesting statement. Yeah. You can't get me into like a, I'm very flexist. if he holds me tight I'll be able to get out of it.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Slippery and flexible very interesting things to say about yourself. I think it really I'm both. I think it sucks that I don't have anybody like that's, you know? Is that like I don't
Starting point is 00:39:44 make out? Not really. Do you have any advice for her? Sophie and fan her acting journey. Yeah, I do. Mm. Okay. Well, what kind of advice do you want
Starting point is 00:39:54 because you didn't ask for us? I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. to give you advice.
Starting point is 00:39:58 No, go ahead. I don't think there's actual technical acting advice because everyone does it so good. What's something that you wish that you could have told yourself? My son is acting. Okay. And he's in NYU and he's 21. Okay, cool. And my big thing is, is when you're starting out, I just, for me, it's like,
Starting point is 00:40:21 when you have to love it, you have to know why you're doing it. You have to really want to do it because it's a terrible business to get involved in if you don't. The second thing is, is it's preparation, preparation, preparation, preparation. You know your lines. Like, there's nothing more annoying when I'm the person that doesn't know my lines or my partner doesn't know their lines. It's one thing when you're working with someone and you know they're trying to find
Starting point is 00:40:47 something and something doesn't feel right and they do know their lines. It's another thing when you're not prepared and you come in and you don't know who your characters or you haven't prepared something. And so my big thing is preparation, preparation, preparation. Don't have ass it. And then, like, enjoy the work. Enjoy workshopping things with people and take those risks when you're doing something. Be okay being bad.
Starting point is 00:41:16 You know when you go too far, be able to laugh at it and be like, did I go too far? Because people appreciate your risk taking. and that's you have to look like an asshole you have to be able to and I and then my other thing would be you have to look like but also like it it's you have to forget what you look like you have to let go of your ego even if you're playing the most beautiful person maybe that's a little bit different because you're playing it but at the end of the day you have to be comfortable being unattractive being as ugly as possible you've to love it be like I love being fucking ugly because it make I just it right because if it's
Starting point is 00:42:02 anything other than that you your people are going to see right through your choices I love I will say this I will say this preparation yes but the way that you prepare everyone is different and as someone starting at I would definitely say learn it all and then decide what best fits you because she does it differently than I do it then mom then Kurt than everyone else Cheathel, Don Cheathel is a good friend of mine. I was like, what do you do? And he writes notes after notes in his script and that, and I tried it.
Starting point is 00:42:34 And I'm like, I can't do it. I can't do it that way. You know, so learn it all, read it all, discover it all, and then figure out what vibes with you. There is no one right way to do it. And casting directors are your friends. They're your big cheerleaders. know that every time you go on tape,
Starting point is 00:42:54 every time you go work with it, if it wasn't for casting directors that I had connections with, still to this day, I wouldn't have been cast and almost famous. Like, Gail Levin, was one of the biggest cheerleader for me. Wow. And so I think, like, everybody wants to get to the producer.
Starting point is 00:43:13 You want to get to the director. Like, the casting director is going to be the person that's going to be who's going to get you and those movies are going to keep bringing you back. for certain things and they're the best. And again, even before you made a casting, you were fucking hustle. Hustle.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Yeah. Use nepotism. Honestly, use your sister. Use what you have because at the end. Terrible advice. It's not terrible advice because at the end of the day, you have to prove yourself. You can get in the door because of people you know,
Starting point is 00:43:42 but if you don't have the goods, you're not going to fucking get the job. But use every resource that you have to give yourself a leg up. Okay, 100% What are our animals And then we're gonna ask the last question Oh shit
Starting point is 00:43:54 I'm gonna say Okay, ready Are you in your animal? No, I'm gonna say everybody is Okay, okay This is You feel like, I don't know why But you feel like a
Starting point is 00:44:07 Mere cat Yes, like that Like a mere cat vibe Or like a platypus Like a cute little platypus Okay see you like the little finger monkeys the ones that just like wrap around you yeah like you're little like like like like something like you're cute and then you're sort of like you just like it's
Starting point is 00:44:29 like you poke your head up and cute no she didn't like it I didn't like me or cat I like I like I like platypus because it's a little bit I don't know maybe I mean to your lay you would lay eggs and you know platypus are interesting platypus are cool I'm very down to be up to be a platypus I mean I feel like that fits with your weird sister narrative I don't know what the spiritual thing is I don't know I just felt like a platypus. I can see, unfortunately, I can see how I look like a mare cat. I hate to admit it, but I can see it. No, but I can see how, like you said, your son looks like a giraffe.
Starting point is 00:45:02 I can see how, if I popped out of like a sandhole, it wouldn't be weird. You know? But okay, keep going, keep going. Okay, you feel like. I don't know if I can play this game. Yeah. I know. This is really hard.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I'm going to say oh I'm gonna your cat if to me you're like a really fast running cat but moves really slow when you want to move slow like a puma okay are you kidding her animal's so cool how do I get meerkat like a
Starting point is 00:45:32 I said mir cat this sucks and I hate this yo I didn't platypus is so cute you got puma I got platypus finger monkey
Starting point is 00:45:45 mire cat no no I'm gonna change mine all over what is no they have to do no we're gonna we're okay i feel like you're like i feel like you're an eel oh my god he's such an eel you kind of oh god that'd look like i guess i get payback for the mirror cat yeah i feel like you're like an eel is good i mean i don't mind an eel i mean they're not necessarily bad but they can be bad if they wanted yeah or like a seagull i would say goal oh a seagull i like seagull i like she's a squirrel I don't mind being a seagull
Starting point is 00:46:19 You're just like eating peanuts at Gladstone I feel like you're just haired Ocean vibes Yeah And what am I? I feel like you're like a deer I feel like you're a flying squirrel A flying squirrel
Starting point is 00:46:33 I like a flying squirrel Or like a gazelle Like a gazelle Not a deer but like a gazelle That's good A panda Me? You're a panda Oh my god a panda's cute
Starting point is 00:46:45 A koala Okay ready How do we see ourselves? What's our animal for ourselves? Okay. I'll go koala. No, you're not yourself.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Oh, oh, myself? Yeah. How do you see yourself? Come on. Let's go fast. You said we were going to do it. Great white shark.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Oh, my God. Interesting. Apex predator. Jesus. No, I'm not, though. I'm not. I don't think you are. No, you know what?
Starting point is 00:47:07 I'm sort of like a lemur monkey. I can, that's the animal that I think you are. You are a lemur monkey. Actually, like you have a mere cat. Let's be honest. You were projecting. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:47:16 but I feel lemur monkey kind of like out there and I don't know no I think you're a lemur monkey as well you know kind of a little weird yeah yeah cute but ugly yeah I like it you know okay I feel like I'm somewhere between a hummingbird and a dragonfly oh you're such a hummingbird I love I feel I feel like hummingbird's always been my it's like at the top of my totem pole yeah I think you are too okay what about you for your pun I already said it's true okay I feel like I'm like a blue whale or like an elephant. What?
Starting point is 00:47:49 Like just like gentle. Like a whale shark kind of. Yeah, that's why I should platypus, but blue whale is better. Okay, we ask us to everyone. It's a two-part question. Oh my gosh. What? Siblings.
Starting point is 00:48:01 If there was one thing that you could alleviate from your sister, something that you could take away that would make their life better, what would be? Oh my God, I love this question. The second part is if there was something that you could emulate, something that you could take from them that you wish that you have. what would that be okay do you want to go first I'll go first I would take away from her to alleviate any like whatever the suffering that I see I mean suffering in like the Buddhist descent not I got it I would take away like your sometimes
Starting point is 00:48:31 overwhelm or sensory overload oh my god sometimes you have a lot of sensory overload I get over stimulated over stimulation you're over stimulation and what I would love to emulate from you I think you always been so like fearlessly yourself and in not a people pleasy way like she's like like it or not
Starting point is 00:48:52 this is who I am this is what I like don't really care if it makes you uncomfortable if you're not ready for all of that this is who I am and I think it makes everybody around you grow and aspire to that level of like authenticity
Starting point is 00:49:05 thank you love that if I could take one thing away from you like for you to not have to deal with it anymore would be like your anxiety or like you're like OCD for certain things just so like you wouldn't have to deal with that anymore and if I could take something from you
Starting point is 00:49:20 it would be how nice you are because you see like your faith in people that's so sweet because like you do have a lot of faith sometimes too much but you have like a lot of faith in people and that helps I love you guys thank you so much this was so fun this was a blast thank you so much it was so fun
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