Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Catch this Flow with Jay Pharoah & Sister Shaina

Episode Date: November 4, 2024

One of SNL's top talents, comedian Jay Pharoah joins the revelry with his sister and built-in support system, Shaina Farrow.Find out how instrumental his big sis was in his success, how she stopped he...r brother from being bullied and how much influence she has over his career in comedy. Plus, Jay admits to overcoming depression and reveals how a painful breakup might have helped him get the gig at Saturday Night Live!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:22 father and daughter, for years. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos. on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's your favorite jersey girl, Gia Judice. Welcome to Casual Chaos, where I share my story. This week, I'm sitting down with Vanderpump Rural Star, Sheena Shea. I don't really talk to either of them, if I'm being honest. There will be an occasional text, one way or the other, from me to Ariana.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Maybe a happy birthday from Ariana to me. I think the last time I talked to Tom, it was like, congrats on America's Got Talent. This is a combo you don't want to miss. Listen to Casual Chaos on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do we really need another podcast with a condescending finance brof trying to tell us how to spend our own money? No thank you. Instead, check out Brown Ambition. Each week, I, your host, Mandy Money, gives you real talk, real advice with a heavy dose of I feel uses.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Like on Fridays when I take your questions for the BAQA, whether you're trying to invest for your future, navigate a toxic workplace. I got you. Listen to Brown Ambition on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling rev. We are a sibling rev. No, no. Sibling reverie. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling
Starting point is 00:03:06 Reveldry. That's good. What? Well, baby, I don't know what to tell you. That was Oliver Hudson having a mini spat with his wife, Aaron Hudson. She wants to make a coffee, but my camera and the way it is set up, it is almost like filming the coffee area. She does not want to be on camera, and now she's rummaging through the refrigerator looking sideways at me, currently shaking up a wild blueberry juice by Wyman's that she drinks to improve her gut health.
Starting point is 00:03:52 So there's a chance I could have done her a solid. She's no longer having caffeine. She's drinking blueberry juice. That is the update from the Hudson kitchen table. But who gives a shit about me? Who gives a flying thug about me? Because we've got Jay, Farrow, and his sister, Shana. In the waiting room, Jay, if you don't know, Jay, you're not living on this planet.
Starting point is 00:04:22 S&L. one of the funnier dudes in the world I feel honored to honestly talk to him and he says a billion impressions of which I'm not going to ask him to do one because I know that's ridiculous but I'm excited to learn not just about them him but about
Starting point is 00:04:38 his relationship I think Shane is his manager anyway enough about enough about me talking about them let's actually bring them on about that well thank you guys for coming on this is very cool no worries thanks for having Yeah, yeah, I read a little bit about, obviously, you know, I know Jay, I'm a big S&L fan.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I'm a big fan of you, man. I'm a big fan of comedy, just generally. But just having Siss on, too, just gives us a whole very well-rounded perspective. You know, YJ is who he is. Feels like after doing a little bit of research, Shana, you made him? I can't take out of the credit for that. I think you have to a little bit because you're the one who propped him up. You gave him confidence.
Starting point is 00:05:27 You know, it sounds like you beat the shit out of some bullies. I mean, there was one time when, like, well, he'll tell the story differently than I do. But, you know, I just had to kind of show him who was the older sibling. She threw me. I didn't throw him. I just lifted him up. I don't remember a toss. I levitated.
Starting point is 00:05:49 off of the ground my feet were not on the ground she picked me up she's slamming she WWE DeWay Johnson but did you just did did you deserve it what how
Starting point is 00:06:03 I was six well it wasn't just an arm warranted toss I think I tried to charge him and she just she's ludicrous me did it
Starting point is 00:06:13 what was your relationship like growing up though I mean was it close I always been close And how far apart are you guys? Five years, yeah So maybe that's the trick, you know, because my sister who was supposed to be on with us
Starting point is 00:06:28 but wasn't able to because actually she's doing a movie right now. But we were two and a half years apart and it was not good. Yeah, I found that. Like in all the siblings that we've encountered, I always ask like, how far apart are you? Because I think that has a lot to do with their relationship.
Starting point is 00:06:47 And if it's too close, I think there's just too much competition there. It's like, you can't tell me what to do. You know, you don't know more than me, whatever. But if there are a number of years, you know, and you have like five years or six years or so, I think it's easier for the younger sibling. Yeah, and I guess it's about the parent dynamic as well. I mean, for me, you know, for us, you know, we were, we came from a family of divorce. Kurt came into our lives and sort of to raise us.
Starting point is 00:07:13 But Kate just wanted my love. It's all she wanted was me to love her. And I didn't have the capacity. I couldn't do it. I was too focused on surviving emotionally myself. Yeah, yeah. You know? And then she annoyed the shit out of me because she was performing all the time.
Starting point is 00:07:31 And it was like, look at me, look at me type stuff. You were like down. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, just relax. You know, relax. I know you're looking for attention, but, you know, now it's detracting from my attention. So get the hell out of here, you know. And it's just the two of you.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Yeah, well, then Wyatt came along. My brother, when I was 10 years old. And then we have a stepbrother, Boston, as well. But only in, you know, only in our later years in like a 20s, we started to really develop a real relationship. And, of course, now we're, you know, best of friends. Aw. Well, as long as, you know, you guys came back around.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Yeah, no. It worked out. Oh, that matters. It worked out. I mean, there's still things, you know, I have issues with. But we won't get into that. This isn't about me. Everybody does.
Starting point is 00:08:19 You said you're two years apart from you two years apart from each other? Yeah, like two and a half. Okay, exactly. Yeah. And growing up, did you have a pretty tight-knit family? Are you guys the only siblings, by the way? Yeah, it's just us too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Yeah. So, I mean, our parents, they've been married now for 43 years. Wow. Amazing. And it wasn't, as, as you know, with everybody's relationship, it's not all cookies and rainbows. Yep. There was some tumultuous times in there, but they made it.
Starting point is 00:08:46 survived and my mom traveled a lot when we were growing up so a lot of times you know we spent a lot of time together you know us when he was a baby my mom was traveling you know she was climbing the the um civilian IT ladder mm-hmm so jay got accustomed to listening to me because he was kind of like my you know my little baby of sorts mm-hmm yeah so were you she fell down the she fell down the stairs with me but i didn't drop him I mean, carrying you? I was one. She failed.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Yeah, I don't even know if he was one. But she was, you know, she protected. She protected me, but I don't know. You think you got a couple of bumps and bruises that kind of shaped who you are today. Well, that's what I was about to say that. I mean, maybe you owe some of those bumps and bruises to your comedy. And what happened, your brain shook up. Hey, man, it needed a, it needed to refocus and re-centered.
Starting point is 00:09:44 It needed to recalibrate. So what's all good. It worked. Yeah. Yeah. So you had to, would you say that, Shania, you were at a big part of raising? Yeah. So until he was like four or five, right?
Starting point is 00:09:59 Okay. Traveling as much. Yeah. So, yeah, the very early years. When daddy started to travel. Yeah. So you, look, Jay, look, when you look in the mirror, right? Like, hold on.
Starting point is 00:10:13 When you look in the mirror, do you look at yourself and say, look at that hands? You know, sometimes, not more now than I did before. Okay. You know, I can see it, though, and then, you know, women will tell you. So, you know, you have to, you got to believe on Memphis. Because you look at, we look at you from the outside, like handsome man, funny, shit. But when I was getting into your stuff and how you were bullied, you know what I mean, and how your sister sort of came to your defense.
Starting point is 00:10:47 How did that start? Why was that the case? You know, could you not stand up for yourself? Give me sort of the overview of that and how it might have, like, sort of shaped you. You know what? I would say that it went in, it went in different, I had different phases because there were, there was a time where, you know, I was probably, I would defend myself. But then it just switched, it switched at some point.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Probably when I went to New York and gained weight. it came back and I gained weight very weirdly for a little boy I didn't gain weight like every other little boy in the face and the stomach you know I gained weight in the butt oh
Starting point is 00:11:27 you know I would look like when I gain weight I turned into a bad B you know bad that's what I do so I try to deal with that and cope with these new Megastalions in the back of my body.
Starting point is 00:11:45 It was kind of weird for me. And, you know, since I kind of did stand out a little bit like that, you know, I was never really comfortable, wasn't really comfortable with myself growing up. And I was always, you know, since I was heavier, always thought people were watching me and judging me and whatever. And it just spread like a poison. And I, and from the age of 6 to 17. pretty much. I was, you know, I felt like that until I went and had a drastic weight loss
Starting point is 00:12:19 because I was tired of it. I was looking at Harris and I can't do this anymore. And I dropped 75 pounds in three and a half, four months. So, wow, dude. That's amazing. Yeah. Wow. And graduated We're honest. That's something else happened. So basically you had a 75 pound ass. Yeah. It wasn't in the face. was not in the chess area. I've always had, you know, I kind of look like a senator. You know what I'm talking about? The centaur?
Starting point is 00:12:53 Centaur, right? The centaur, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the horse, you got the regular up here and then just got this horse, this horse exterior in the back. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, man, that was, that was crazy. How did you drop so much weight in so little time? I mean, and was it just a focus there where you was like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:13:12 Every single day. I got on the treadmill on level six for 10 minutes. I did it. You know what I'm saying? Level 6 to 10 minutes. I ate nothing but a little bit of barbecue with some salt, some, and then a little bit of the salad with some salt, some lemon and some vinegar, probably oil. And I did that for three and a half, four months.
Starting point is 00:13:35 And the weight just fell in. Yeah, he was leisure focused during that time. I remember. So how did we have so much barbecue? I don't, yo, there was a bin in the, it was a, there was a bin that was in the freezer that nobody was touching. Look, man, I could have had some, some parasites or something because that, that barbecue had been in there for years.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Yeah. It's the parasite diet, right? It was, hey, hey, you know what, when it all fails, get a tapeworm. Yeah, no, it's not a bad, it's not a bad, by the way, that could be a good diet, the tapeworm I would sell tapeworms. Well, I think, no, I think that's actually a thing. But no, man, I just, and maybe the meat, the meat wasn't affected or nothing. It was just frozen.
Starting point is 00:14:21 I just, I focused, bro. I was, I was so focused. I said, I can't do this no more. I was tired of feeling the way I was feeling. It was, I was severely depressed when I was 12. I think that's when it really started kicking off because, you know, I went from a different district. I went from basically the Greenbri district over there to, you know, where there was a lot of kids that liked to joke and talk about you, you know. So when I switched there and I really realized I had an aqua body when the boy said, what the boy said, shut your fat ass up?
Starting point is 00:14:59 Yeah, that stuck with me. You never forget people who are really nice to you. Yeah. Never forget people who are really butt holes to you. Yeah, yeah. Between that, you know, really, they blur. You know, everything gets jumbled. But for those two extremes, you'll never forget those.
Starting point is 00:15:16 What did that feel like as a 12-year-old when you say you went into an actual depression? Because it's hard to, it's hard to sort of, you know, our brains at 12 aren't fully developed, right? And it's just a feeling and we can't really put words to it. Yeah. And on the flip side of that, you know, Shannon, when you were watching your brother go through this stuff, you know, how did you deal with that? But what did that feel like? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:40 Well, she was at college when this was happening. Yeah, I had to fly for VCU. Okay. And you know what? Maybe that led to some of it too, because, you know, you feel like the person who you could tap in with this whole time, it's gone. You know, you got your dad in, you got your dad in Germany, work in inspecting buildings. You got your mom who's trying to keep everything together.
Starting point is 00:16:05 He's trying to connect with you. but, you know, she's not there, the person that was, you know, her rumors right there. I remember I used to wake up and all the Bala would be playing. You don't know what Bilau was. But he's a neo-soul artist.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Dude, I know Bilau. Okay, okay, I'm sorry. I was a huge, huge 90s hip-hop fan, huge R&B fan. Okay, okay. Yeah, Balal. Belal, comment and all that. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Like, all of this stuff will be playing. And it was really comforting for me. But then that just, it just goes away. Oh, man, I never knew that. Yeah, I'm saying about it. I mean, I'm just, no, I ain't got nothing to do with you. You had to go to school. I mean, yeah, but, like, not even being, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:51 in tune to, like, how my departure kind of affected you. Yeah. It's tough, though, because you, you know, you're a woman going to school who is focused on other things. Of course, you love your brother, but, you know, you're trying to create a life for yourself, you know. I mean, but how did you deal with it, though? How did you get through it?
Starting point is 00:17:11 Especially when you had no real support system because that's gnarly, man. I mean, you see kids these days who are offering themselves because of these severe depressions. I mean, I'm not, I don't want to talk about your depression house. No, hey, you know what I mean? Like my kid at 12, 13 went through pretty gnarly anxiety, you know, for fans, man. I had to deal with that. But luckily, for him, I had been through my own shit with anxiety, starting in my early 20s, you know, getting on medication, getting on Lexa Pro, you know, and now it's completely manageable. And I'm 48, so I understand how to deal with it.
Starting point is 00:17:53 But, you know, I knew how to talk to him. You know, I knew how to sort of talk him off a ledge. Right. Yeah. It was a lot going on at that time. It was different changes or whatever, but I was in a state of, I don't know what it was, man. It was really, it was really bad for about a year.
Starting point is 00:18:16 When I was 13, I think it kind of, me getting away from Indian River that first year, because I switched three middle schools. I went to Crestwood and six. I went to Indian River seven, and I went to Greenbrier and eighth. Greenbrier, I felt like, you know, I knew a lot of people, you know, even though they, they poured two different school districts into that one school. I knew. So, I mean, I had people around me. I could talk to. Yeah, it was familiarity there. But, you know, when I was in, I was at Indian River, I had like one person that I, you know, I chill with, you know, he ended up,
Starting point is 00:18:52 he ended up kind of not being cool. He was cool that year, but, you know, he got popular in eighth grade, real popular Dominican you know with him Panamanian whatever the hell he was
Starting point is 00:19:02 you know puberty kicks in and that's you know that's his thing you feel me I'm over here just
Starting point is 00:19:09 and I'm over here just trying to manage trying to manage being Jared with the corn rolls and everything September always feels like
Starting point is 00:19:22 the start of something new whether it's back to school new projects or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place will stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm, character, and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this
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Starting point is 00:22:47 It may look different, but Native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for a hundred of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Taylor Ornellis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner
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Starting point is 00:23:39 Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. sort of save you in a way? A little bit. A little bit. I mean, of course I wasn't, you know, of course, man, I still got a Christian foundation. So, you know, me wanting to, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:04 fully take myself out. Just the thought, entertaining the thought already was dangerous. But I didn't, I'm glad that I had that so I didn't go all the way there. And I think you started locking in with the music too, right? Because is that the time when you kind of built your studio around your computer? And you had that song.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Depression got a hold of me. That was a little, I was in high school. I did that. But I did start rapping. I did start rapping when I was, damn, that was something that got me out. Because I started rapping seventh grade at the seventh grade. And it was this kid named John Centoro.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Shout out to him. Wherever you are, John. Shout out to you. The Italian kid, but he taught me how to rap. And that was kind of like an outlet for me, getting those feelings out. Oh, amazing. Even if trash.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Yeah, but it doesn't, it doesn't matter. I mean, essentially, it's like writing, it's almost like, you know, stream of consciousness writing where, you know, you put the pen to paper and don't stop, which I did a ton of, you know, dealing with all my shit. And maybe it's not good. Maybe it is, but you're just getting it out. And I will say, I've gone back and read some of that stuff. And, you know, some of it's mumble, jumble,
Starting point is 00:25:22 whatever, but I mean, some of it is so profound. Wow. It's so amazing to read back where you're like, whoa, you know, there is poetry in it. There is because you are just spitting your feelings through your hand, through the pen, and onto the paper. Right. You know?
Starting point is 00:25:40 And so whether whether the rap was good or bad, it was still an expression. I got better. I got better. You did? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Depression's going to get you. Was that a play on love is going to get you?
Starting point is 00:25:53 You say it again? Depression's going to get you. Was that the name of the song? Oh, it was depression got a hold of me. Okay, okay. Depression got a hold of me. And I was, I think I was 16 when I, when I recorded that, I started recording. Do you still remember lyrics from that?
Starting point is 00:26:08 I still remember the hook. It's actually kind of a bops. He doesn't like for me to sing it, but. You still got the hook. Let me hear it. It was on... Depression got a hold of me. Depression so cold, you see.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Depression got a hold of me. Depression's cold, you see. Yeah, sorry. It was on Biggie Small and Tupac's. That song that they had together, you know, because they never... They never had a track with it. When they...
Starting point is 00:26:40 I forgot, running. It was the running. That year track running. Yeah. I was recorded. But she was right. I turned my, I turned my computer into a studio. I put a cardboard box over and taped the computer mic to the side of it.
Starting point is 00:26:56 You remember those long computer mics, like the first computer mic? Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I taped it to the side and I'll be under there so pauseworthy now. I'm thinking about it. The man on his knees just rapping because you had to cross under there. Well, I wouldn't be on my knees. I'd be on my, I'd have the seat.
Starting point is 00:27:13 The other people that, the other rappers that came in, they would have to record. They'd be on their knees. Yeah. know. I had a seat. I was the look, he had collaboratives and everything. No, it sounds like you had your whole crew coming over. But I mean, I think that there's such a blessing to have some sort of outlet, right? Be cathartic, some place to kind of focus that energy.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Theater, too. Yeah, absolutely. Theater music. Yeah. I want to get back to sort of the birth of comedy and your success, but just staying on this for a second, you know, because, you know, those sort of depressions, those, that self-worth, that self-love, you know, which I've dealt with, you know, you can work on it, but does it go away completely, you know, like, do you still have insecurities? Do you still feel like that kid at times, given the success of your life and how far you've come? If I start up, if I start getting a little chunky, that kid, that little, that thoughts come back. I'm like, wait a minute now. Really?
Starting point is 00:28:17 Pappas are getting big now. You got to do something. You know what I mean? Always in the back of my mind. But I'll tell you this, since I haven't been drinking, I haven't drank about six months. So that's the life is good.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Yeah. I haven't had to pay as much attention to the bottom half of my body as I used to. Like, it stays just fine. Yeah. It is always a, it's always a warning, a flag, a red flag that comes up. If I start, if I put on anything, I'll go back.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I'll be like, I cannot go back to that place because it was really a dark place. David, would you say you still have a little bit of like the, what is it called, the dysmorphia? Right. Yeah, way. Good question. Just a little bit, but I can still see, like, you know, I'll look at the mirror, but oh, no, then I'll put on it on, I'll go outside, I'll go out and look at the big mirror and put on my boxes. I'll be like, hmm, no, that's nice. I'm doing alright
Starting point is 00:29:16 I'm doing okay No, you just get one of those mirrors that stretches you just a little bit so it's not obscure it doesn't obscure you but it just stretches you
Starting point is 00:29:25 just a tad No, I mean I just sort of cut down my drinking because it was my gosh man Yo, where are you from? L.A.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Okay, okay, okay. I'm gonna say I'm mother's from New York she's got like this super a super drinking thing. She gives her tolerance is crazy. Which is wild because
Starting point is 00:29:49 her parents didn't really start drinking like alcohol until I went to college. Really? Yeah, I mean, they would drink like wine and have wine coolers.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Right. You know, they didn't have like a liquid closet or cabinet until after I went to school and I don't know if I was just stressing them out or I had,
Starting point is 00:30:09 we found the source of all our problems. Right. That's the same. And now they're putting them back, though, now that... I mean, yeah, they don't indulge as much as they used to either. I just found myself getting into this pattern of, you know, the problem is I can function.
Starting point is 00:30:28 So five o'clock, whatever rolls around, dealing with it. Because I have three kids. I have 17, 14, and 11. Wow. You need to drink. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You know, I need a drink. So I, but the problem is I can't have one or two.
Starting point is 00:30:40 You know, I got my cool little bar area with my thing, and it's like kind of this, and it's my spot, right? And I will sit down, yeah, I'll get on my computer and I'll make one. Tequila's. I love tequila. And all of a sudden, before, yeah, I love and it still do. But before you know it, I'm like seven, eight deep. Woo! No, and then I'm on my computer.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I'm calling all my friends. I'm fucking texting. I'm online. I'm loving my time. Yeah. You know, I love it. And then I'll go upstairs around 9, 9.30. I smoke a big joint.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Get in bed. turn on some TV, boom. And that was my pattern. The problem is I was feeling like shit. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? And it was like almost every day.
Starting point is 00:31:22 So I've decided to not cut it out, cut it out, but be healthy during the week and then have one night during the weekend. Okay. Everything in moderation, man. Anything you get too much attention to is never good. Yeah, because I couldn't go fully the other way either. Right. I'm just like, I'm healthy.
Starting point is 00:31:42 I'm never going to. touch anything. I'm a vice guy. I like my vices. I mean, I enjoy food. I enjoy wine, liquor, weed. I like it. So I can't just cut that out. There ain't nothing wrong with some weed. No, nothing at all. Nothing at all. It's legal now. Come on. What are we doing here? Yeah, yeah. You might not want to smoke a pound a day, but you know. No, no. I mean, I don't. You know, I don't even really smoke during the day. It's just kind of my wine down at night. Yeah. You know, oh, you know, you are your best parent. when you're a little blazed, especially when they're young.
Starting point is 00:32:16 It's so funny, like, I don't typically indulge now just because I'm like, I don't know, you know, school's going to call me or whatever the case. It just really can't. But I remember when he was smaller and sometimes we'd be over Jay's house hanging out, we may, you know, past one or whatever. And the next time he saw me, it was like he was staring through my soul. Like, he knew something was up. And I was like, oh, no, I don't, I don't like how to feel.
Starting point is 00:32:42 nails right so i just kind of stop unless i'm like on vacation or something yeah i just go outside to the patio yeah there you yeah well you know look everyone a lot of people come home and they might have a whiskey they might have a tequila wine down right and then they deal with their kids especially when they're little exactly there's there's no no difference even it's better you have a couple puffs it makes bedtime easier you're not screaming your fucking face off like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're not losing it because you, you know, that's just what happens. You're just much more chill. Yeah, the relationship is a little bit better with the children when you just had, you know, just a puff or two. It's a couple puffs. Just a little couple
Starting point is 00:33:30 puffs. No, I mean, it's puffed the magic track. No, that's that's that's right. That is the name. It's not definitely. It ain't puff, puff, puff, puff, puff. It's a puff, puff. It It's puffs a magic dragon. That's right. One puff and the dragon. Right. We should do a new series called Puff Puff Puff Pass the Magic Dragon. Oh, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:33:52 I like that. I think that's good. I like it. It's his cousin who's just a little more generous. But Jay, when did you, when did comedy become sort of that creative outlet, honestly? Man, I was always saying our landish. things and roasting and roasting people at church, which
Starting point is 00:34:16 I feel so bad about it. But then now I don't because if I didn't do that, that was me. That was my creative outlet. That was me feeling comfortable around people to allow that talent to shine. Yeah, building those skills. Yeah, but I used to, so it was at church.
Starting point is 00:34:35 I was at church, man. It was at church. It would be at school. It would be around some of my uncles. Like, my Uncle Patrick will tell you. I've been saying wild stuff since I was five years old. He'd always laugh about it. And I just was, I didn't take it anyway.
Starting point is 00:34:51 I was just like, all right, I made Uncle Patrick laugh. That's cool. But so it was like a. That's actually how he loves. Yeah, it sounds. It was solidification and verification that I was doing what I was put here to do. Yeah. And theater, that was.
Starting point is 00:35:12 eight years old. I did theater at eight and got into doing stand-up around 15, 16. Oh, wow. You know, I got into this thing called the Virginia I had a talent search. Of course, like I said, I was performing before that in front of people in pockets, but I wasn't on the main stage. My father put me in a competition when I was 16. Virginia, I had a talent search, and I got fifth place out of it, and it was like 300 people in it. And, I mean, you know, these competitions where you got to pay, you got to pay to, to be in it and then, you know, contingent on the crowd
Starting point is 00:35:46 and all of that, you know, people cheer for you, but they had judges and all of that. And there was only, what, one more comedian? There was another? No, it was like, it was like three or four. Oh, okay. And then everybody else was like singers and musicians. Tap dance, singers, tap ventriloquist.
Starting point is 00:36:04 So it was like America's got talent type of. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So it was just if you have a skill, you know. So show us. But you were the only comedian that place.
Starting point is 00:36:15 I was the only comedian in that place. And I was 16. Wow. So after that, I just, I kept going with it. Thorough Good comedy club, Bayside Inn.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Bayside Inn is not even, I don't even think that's open. Thorough Good is not open either more. Right. Wow. And then, the funny bone. I started doing that when I was 18.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Yeah. I was discovered by this cat, one of these, freeze love, which is, friend of mine who's broke with Charlie Murphy. He saw me and he introduced me to Charlie. And then Charlie took me in a row when I was 19. And then, you know, I got S&L at 22. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school,
Starting point is 00:37:01 new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm, character, and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip,
Starting point is 00:37:33 a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time,
Starting point is 00:37:58 as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralism? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith, but there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in. To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other
Starting point is 00:38:29 sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to the moment with Jorge Ramos San Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present. IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands, and then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's your favorite jersey girl, Gia Jude Ice. Welcome to Casual Chaos, where I share my story. This week, I'm sitting down with Vanderpump Rural Star, Sheena Shea.
Starting point is 00:39:59 I don't really talk to either of them, if I'm being honest. There will be an occasional text, one way or the other, from me to Ariana, maybe a happy birthday from Ariana. to me. I think the last time I talked to Tom, it was like, congrats on America's Got Talent. This is a combo you don't want to miss. Listen to casual chaos on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It may look different, but Native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing
Starting point is 00:40:42 for a kind of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Taylor Ornales, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app,
Starting point is 00:41:18 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, how was that rise, though? I mean, was it, obviously you had talent, there's no doubt about that, but you had the confidence as well, but was it like, oh, I belong. here this is what's supposed to happen or was there shock like holy shit wow look what's happening i think now i always always felt like i could on stage it was it was something it was something
Starting point is 00:41:49 there like i said with the theater background and everything but making people when i got my first standard ovation at 2006 at the funny bone that's what i knew i knew something was up i felt it i felt it you know um It was crazy. There's actually footage of this. I had this academic's hoodie on. It was for Lower in the Hood, and it was blue. And Michael, Michael Richards had just messed up. He had just said the N-word at the comedy, at the Laugh Factory.
Starting point is 00:42:24 And I did a set, and I had all these characters talking about it. And I remember I had Denzel. I had two forks. And I said, in the Dell's voice, I said, okay, I said, all right, you want to talk about, I said, you want to talk about black people to use N word? I said, well, these forks are going up your ass. That's right, pick a cheek, right, left, pick a damn cheek. These forks are going up your ass.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Now, that night was even more special because everybody was bombing that night. It was people. I got up there, I did that, people went crazy. I get a stand in ovation I didn't even say anything when I walked off stage I blew on the mic like Diddy I said that I walked off
Starting point is 00:43:11 real quick I was walking off I'm saying and that that put it in my head I was like yo I'm kind of I'm good at this
Starting point is 00:43:21 I'm good at this I hadn't got a had I got a stand in ovation before though I don't know I did not like that I had done this bit this Cameron and Dipset bit
Starting point is 00:43:31 I came up with and that was People will go crazy for that. But after two minutes, you know, what are you going to do afterwards? Yeah. So I kind of had to figure out and develop that. But shit, that time, when that happened, I knew. I said, okay, this is where I'm supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:43:48 I'm supposed to do you remember back when you were, when you out of the 300 people, when you came in fifth, what did you get like a few minutes to go do something when you were younger? I had five minutes. Five minutes. Do you remember? Oh, yeah. Do you remember your bits? Do you remember your jokes?
Starting point is 00:44:04 I remember I was, I remember it was just when Janet Jackson had done the Super Bowl with Justin. The nipple, yeah. It was, R. Kelly was, you know, that was the first round. When he was peeing on people. When he was peeing, that's when the, that's when the tape was passing through like some, like some mixtape, like a drake. It was.
Starting point is 00:44:25 And I did a, I did Bernie Mac talking about him. I did a crocodile hunter. I did crocodile hunter. And I did Buford, Ricky Smiley's character talking about the situation with R. Kelly. And I did, it was one. It was so much. Oh, and I came out to Nellie's Pimp Juice as Cat Williams. I was singing a sound, Pimp, Jill.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Ooh. And, yeah, my dad actually wrote that with me. And then I got, what's so cool is that, you know, when you talk about your dad and he's the one who put you up for this stuff, you know, it's nice to hear that because a lot of the times you hear about people who are creative who want to follow those dreams, but, you know, their parents aren't necessarily accepting of it because it's a pipe dream. It's not, it's very difficult to do what you did and that actually become successful and break, given the amount of people we're trying to do it. But for your parents to understand that that's who you were and that's what you needed to do and to support that. And to support that. actually go out on a limb and say, you know what, this is, what, you know, succeed or fail, like, I'm on your side. You know, that's, that's special. One of the reasons why I, you know, it wasn't even like a question, you know, when he really started doing this, I was like, oh, I'm going to support.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Like, I saw, you know, the talent and the potential. And I never wanted him to feel like, you know, he didn't have, like, full support. And you're his manager, right? Yes. So how did that happen? So when I was in, um, because I was at, I think I was still like, I still don't know. No, I know. He's like, one day I woke up and she just said, I'm your big sister, I'm your manager, whether you like it or not.
Starting point is 00:46:16 All right, you're going to give me 10% of this. It's fine. Right. Sign here. You don't need to sign anything. This is just what it is a like contract. We have a blood oath. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:46:27 No, I think, um, one of his auditions, this was when death comedy jam was coming back around. Shout out to Bob Sumner, and they were bringing that back. And the audition was coming through Richmond, and I was in Richmond at the time. I went to VCU, and I was still living there after I graduated. Well, actually, it was before. The first one was before that. What, the first audition? Oh, in Virginia Beach.
Starting point is 00:46:48 First one was at Blakely's in Virginia Beach. Oh, that's right. That's when you first started representing. Yeah, yeah. And I remember I went, I was like, all right, I'm just going to say I'm your manager. Because, I mean, he's young. I know he's super talented. You know, I just wanted to kind of watch out for sharks.
Starting point is 00:47:02 and predator or whatever. So that's kind of, I mean, I was saying it. And then at a certain point, it just, we just kind of grew together. I remember she was to manage it because my dad was my manager at first. And he was he? You wanted those folks to ask him how much
Starting point is 00:47:22 he felt like he deserved. And he said, he said half. I said, what? I mean, I drove you to the gig. So he got gas money and also like, There were all these things, all these taxes. Yeah, he always, he itemizes everything. He's in half.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Yeah, I'm like, do it with you. Y'all, I'm not saying, half. Like, come on, what are we doing? You take a half my bread? Like, come on. Like, my G, like, I'm struggling. Like, we're struggling. He's sending you receipts from gas and, like, little snacks and stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Yo, that's how our dad is. Even when we work, you know, he's a handyman. And we worked with him. We used to work with him. Me and Shane and both work with him. And from the moment you get in the car, if he takes you to McDonald's, that's a production. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:48:12 I took you to say, okay, so you had an egg McMuffer in a half the ground, and that car was $4.99, then you had lunch. You went to lunch at the Wendy's. I didn't even want to go to Wendy. You went to lunch at Wendy's, and you got a spicy chicken sandwich, and you got a Biggie Fry and a Coca-Cola. That's another 8. right he's like and then you had a then you had a bite of my wop and then you had just one bite of my
Starting point is 00:48:38 my whopper and that's 38 cents that's uh yep that's that's 38 cents right there so by the end of the day you get nothing down you got $20 no by the end of the day you owe him yeah I'm in the hole that part but I remember I used to send out just emails because I was like networking and meeting people I used to do when I so I graduated with a degree in a mass trying to meet it. I thought I was going to, you know, be Tamer Hall or somebody. So I started,
Starting point is 00:49:08 I started to the show, like this regional show, very true, where I would cover like everything happening in Central Virginia on an entertainment side. So I was interviewing all the artists and stuff. I was in the clubs. So I knew the promoters.
Starting point is 00:49:21 And people wanted to start doing like comedy nights and, you know, whatever. So I'm networking. And it's so funny. I ran across an email, Gmail keeps everything from 2012, I think,
Starting point is 00:49:32 or it could have been early. And I was pitching some Booker and I was like, yeah, you know, I represent Jake Farrell, like he can host, he can headline. I was like, headline. I'm like, he probably had like 10 minutes. You said 2012? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:44 No, no, no, no, no, it wasn't 2012. It was earlier than that. It might have been like 2008, 2009. Oh, hell, yeah. That would have been a rough headliner set right there. Right. I didn't have a developed back then. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Had a good feature set at the time, right? The 15 minutes. But I got it, I can't, I can't stretch it, you know what I mean? This ain't coke. This ain't no, I ain't whipping no work. I can't spread this. Yeah. I remember I did, in Richmond, I did this place called Jazzy's Island.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Yeah, that was, wait, that was in 2009. And I just, it was a birthday party. It was a birthday party. And it's this lady set up her back yard like a, like a louisle. Yeah. And, you know, I was not, I was not fun. at that place until until I started
Starting point is 00:50:35 dipping it to the crowd I had to dip it to the crowd and start talking about people by that time that's when it was that's when it started working but yeah that was about 20 minutes
Starting point is 00:50:43 in there you already got them yeah yeah so I say that to say I believed in him from the beginning and I was like
Starting point is 00:50:52 it was my my duty my duty I was going to say purpose or my intention to you know try to make sure
Starting point is 00:51:02 I can create opportunities or find opportunities for him. It was your duty and intention plus 10%. Well, I mean, at that point, he wasn't really making any money. And even when we started going on a road, so after I was working at Capital One, I was a project manager for email marketing. That was also part-time managing him. So when I would get home from work, I would, like, jump on emails and, you know, whatever,
Starting point is 00:51:25 and then when the housing market crashed, I lost my job and they asked me if I wanted to be reassigned somewhere in the company. I was like, no. I was like, I think I'm just going to manage my brother full-time. Move my home. I've got one more month on my lease. So that's what we did. And then we just started going up to New York. I was on unemployment. Cash for gold was hot at the time. So I went up like all my broken gold jewelry. They traded it in for gas money. Yeah. And we just hit the road. And we had relatives in New York and Jersey so we could stay for a couple weeks at a time. And, you know, he was just working out, networking, meeting people, same get him on and we did that and I don't think I was taking any money from you at the time
Starting point is 00:52:05 because you weren't like that's amazing I love that story that's so fucking great I mean it's beautiful story honestly like you know especially your siblings that because that can go south yeah you know siblings I mean it's an incredible relationship and believe me Kate and I have interviewed a lot of them it's a really important relationship you know you had the brassas up I'm playing I'm totally but it It is. It's tough. It's tough. You know, I mean, it can get tough, especially when they're dealing with business stuff, you know. My sister and I have been in one crazy fight over a business situation. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And at what point were you like, all right, you know, was it discussed? Like, money or I'm going to take 10% and this is going to be what it's going to be. You know, I don't remember. You still don't have a contract. Why would you? I think we have something somewhere, somewhere, somewhere.
Starting point is 00:53:03 There is a piece of paper somewhere. Yeah, I think so. There was, paperwork was made in 2010. Okay. It was. Yeah. That's when I started. Maybe you started getting paid.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Maybe I started giving you a BET when I got the BET. Oh, yeah. Because they paid me $5,000 and they called it chicken money. Here's your chicken money. I was like, chicken money. I'm going to, I'm going to the cheesecake fact. You paid me $5,000. And I live in Virginia.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Yeah. This is, I'm kicked up. So for both of you then, what was the break? And I say both of you because you were there from the beginning, Jane. Like this is, it's cool. You hustled for your brother. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:50 You decided not to take another gig after the crash. I said, I'm going to, I believe in my man. And we're going to ride this train. Yeah. So you guys did this shit together. this shit together, you know what I'm saying? We did. Did you have that moment, that break, or was it S&L where you look at each other and it's
Starting point is 00:54:06 like, oh, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. I think it was that time when he got the call that night because he had done a showcase. It was a laugh mob showcase, Bob's time that showcase. And there were a couple of folks in the crowd that worked at S&L. There was some agents in the crowd. There was one who took a liking to him, Josh Pearl. Shout out to Josh Pearl. And there were just conversations.
Starting point is 00:54:29 going on, right? So he got a call to be in a movie, Cookout 2. And that's kind of how we, you know, got the agency because that was that first opportunity. And then, you know, there was a... Yeah, and that was 09. So it was, I got that movie in 2009
Starting point is 00:54:45 because, like she said, we were going back and forth up to New Jersey, New York and doing the Chitlin circuit. And I was, you know, we were networking and whatever. And I was still doing video. I was doing videos. I was putting the videos out on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:54:58 I remember a couple of them had already gone a little viral. That's the reason I got booked overseas to do this thing called the Real Deal Comedy Jam in London. And then before that, I did this thing called You Got Jokes. Yeah, in Montreal. In Montreal. But those videos were circulating, and I was just having fun with them. And I think we were coming back from, well, I had just done an audition for NBC
Starting point is 00:55:25 called Pink House, and they were blown away. So they offered me a holding deal off of that. Simultaneously what was going on, I was making those, I was making this series called Behind the Actor. I told I had this idea for Will Smith and Denzel Washington talking to each other about why they never made a movie together. And that video is funny because I had already done two or three other videos with Denzel and Will, but I had done two other two,
Starting point is 00:55:58 other videos with them, but I didn't put up, I didn't put up the first one because it just didn't make sense. It was funny as hell, but it just didn't make sense. The second one, I did a trailer. And then that third one, I was coming back from, we were coming back from New York. And I said, I got this idea and we shot it. And I was in January. And then he picked it up. Yeah. They put it on television. And I was like, y'all, shame on TV. That was probably, that was probably the first I was the first moment. Yeah. I was like, yo, someone.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Am I on television? And then I was looking at my videos, and I got this, and I see this email come in, and it was like, it says AdSense. And it was like, yo, you can monetize your videos now. You have enough views. And I said, wait, what? Really? I said, I've been doing this.
Starting point is 00:56:50 I've been putting videos up for a couple years. I was like, oh, wow, I'm getting, I get paid from this. And I put the, it was getting so much attention to Wilson. and Denzel was getting so much attention that they put the ads up there. And then it was just a, it was an ongoing thing. Then they started going to the rest of my videos. I'm still going up and auditioning. And then that's, I got the holding deal for NBC.
Starting point is 00:57:13 And then Fox, Fox came. BT shot this thing with me called The Package, that Lamar Morris did as well. And then that turned into what, Sprangling was Springbling. And then it was the package. and then Fox had a deal that they offered me. So I had a few, B.T tried to come with a deal too, but you know, BD ain't able to have a cake on it, you know.
Starting point is 00:57:37 And then just kept working, got the, got called into audition for S&L in August of 2000. So you got called in to audition. We want to see it. Okay. But I had already put it, all right, we put together one tape in 2009. Because there was talk of a possible mid-season replacement. Mid-season replacement. And they didn't go, you know, forward with the mid-season replacement.
Starting point is 00:58:00 And then the next year, he got the opportunity to go in. And they just told me, yeah, wait until next summer. In front of Lauren, you did the whole deal. Oh, yeah. You walk in, you know, and they tell you, like, he's not going to laugh. There's a good chance he's not going to laugh. I mean, I couldn't even see anybody, man, because it's so dark in there. You know, I heard laughing in the corner, though.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Yeah, maybe I'm doing a-a-a-hit. I don't know. And did you go in there? Did you go into with impressions? Was that what you were doing? I had six impressions and two characters. So. Oh, you had two characters as well?
Starting point is 00:58:33 Two characters. Martin Bisdunkley was a black Jewish dude who was in his 30s still living at his mom's house. He was trying to hustle. Wasn't he a telemarketer? That's funny. I like that. Yeah. He was trying to hustle on Microsoft equipment from the 90s.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Like who's going to buy this? And he was getting cooked. Like people would cook them. Like kill yourself. you shouldn't be doing it. Yeah. What was your other character? Chalk Obama, was Barack Obama's subconscious. Everything he wanted to say that he couldn't say at the time.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Great. This was pre-Kee-impeal. This was before Key and Peel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. it's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure.
Starting point is 00:59:27 I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place will stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm character and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place. to land, a space that helps them feel like a local.
Starting point is 00:59:56 And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians.
Starting point is 01:00:21 I would be the first immigrant mayor. generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith, but there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in. To bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other, sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present. The Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care. Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup.
Starting point is 01:01:42 While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands. and then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted, the kind body story, starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Hey, it's your favorite Jersey girl, Gia Judice. Welcome to Casual Chaos, where I share my story. This week, I'm sitting down with Vanderpump Roll Star, Sheena Shea. I don't really talk to either of them, if I'm being honest. there will be an occasional text one way or the other from me to Ariana maybe a happy birthday from Ariana to me I think the last time I talked to Tom
Starting point is 01:02:32 it was like congrats on America's Got Talent This is a combo you don't want to miss Listen to Casual Chaos on the IHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts It may look different but Native culture is very alive My name is Nicole Garcia And on Burn Sage Burn Bridges we aim to explore that culture.
Starting point is 01:02:52 It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric that this is something we've been doing for a hundred of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Taylor Ornellis, who with Rutherford Falls
Starting point is 01:03:10 became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world,
Starting point is 01:03:31 influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You do the online. audition i'm sure it felt it felt good you know when you you know auditions like you you do an audition it feels like shit you know when it feels like shit and you know when you get that rush when you walk out of the room we're like oh oh my god like that was good whether i get the gig or not i just you can feel it go you can feel it in your in your blood in your veins it's rush you get that rush
Starting point is 01:04:10 i had something to prove because uh my ex-girlfriend had broken up with me so i said i'll show you And after the audition, the guy who was videotaping, he said that was one of the best auditions we've had in years. Wow. I felt like, I was like, man, I might get this. Yeah. Might get this job. Yeah. Going up to, went up to New York for three weeks back and forth talking to, talking to Lauren and the producers.
Starting point is 01:04:39 And then, yeah, three weeks after that audition, I got the offer. Oh, my God. What does that feel like for both of you? Do you remember the moment when it was like, it's yours? Yeah, I remember because Lauren had called me and I missed this call because I was on a flight and I called the office back. And they told me, Lauren is going to call you wait by your phone. And I waited by my phone, but I ain't got no patience. So I called the office up.
Starting point is 01:05:12 called the office. And then they were like, hold on. Lauren wants to talk to you. And they patched me into him. And he goes, Jane, your whole life is about to change. Yeah. Are you ready to come to New York? We think you're very talented.
Starting point is 01:05:28 And I know you're going to work hard. And this should be a very exciting call for you. I was like, yeah, well, yeah. We, yeah, talk to my, you know, talk to my constituents. Hey. You can work out. And now, I was, I told him, I said, yeah, man, I'm ready to work.
Starting point is 01:05:46 And I hit Shana and I said, hey, man, you know, we're going to New York. Because I think I was home. Were you home? I think I was home. I think I was listening on the other side of the door because our rooms used to be connected by a stairwell in the door. Congratulations. Were there tears? Yeah, I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:06:06 I'm sure. It's hard to remember that exact moment now, but I'm sure I think we were, like, jumping up and down. Amazing. Pretty sure. I was like, wow, just, just, just mine was crazy. Mind blown. I do want to know what, what's going on now. Like, what do you got?
Starting point is 01:06:22 What's happening? How's life? Everything good? What are we working on? Still working with each other to this day. I did a special. It's called Jared. Shana directed it.
Starting point is 01:06:33 I shot it at the Den Theater. Oh. Just put it out a week ago. It's got, it's got 300,000 views on a, Now, that means a lot because my channel has not been alive. It was dead. It's kind of being resuscitated. But a lot of people are taking liking to it, man.
Starting point is 01:06:52 The comments on it, I would say they're 93% positive, bro. So when you have something like, people are like, I hope you're really proud of the work that you did because, you know, it shows a different side. It's funny. It's a special. It's not just a comedy set that was filmed. it's an actual special
Starting point is 01:07:12 and it's great you know and she directed it you know I got that quiz with balls is one of the hottest That's for Fox right
Starting point is 01:07:23 Yeah I have a deal at Fox I have a producing deal of Fox So I know about that show Yeah Oh work, hey man Yeah And also
Starting point is 01:07:32 Goldie Hahn Yeah Yeah Yeah No I know Your boy was Your boy was a crush like a rushing back in the 90s.
Starting point is 01:07:43 No, I know. I mean, it's crazy the amount of people who tell me that, you know, oh, your mom, what's up with your mom? By the way, she's 78 and still looks great. I love it. Yeah. And the first wives club? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Yeah. Yeah, great. You don't own me. Yeah. You don't own me. And a lot of your little toys. You don't know me. She still sings that song, by the way.
Starting point is 01:08:08 Love it. Yes. especially when Kurt's giving her shit. And don't tell me what to say, Kurt. Don't tell me what to say, Kurt. I appreciate you guys. Let's definitely get information. We'll keep in touch for sure.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Okay, sounds good. All right, guys. Have a good one. You know, sometimes I wish. Well, it's not a wish. I just, it's almost like we're so comfortable with each other, my family and Kate, that, you know, are very independent people. And sometimes it would be nice if we may be more codependent and we can lean on each other and rely on each other more. Although we do. That's not fair to say. I mean, we, we do. We do. When we have issues, you know, we definitely call and talk.
Starting point is 01:09:06 and hash shit out. But it's just so nice to see such a loving relationship. And you can tell she's taking care of him. You know, you can see it. You can feel it. And maybe that five-year gap, you know, really helps. But, you know, I don't know. You feel their connectedness.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Anyway, I'm going off. That was fun. I'm leaving. Bye. Introducing IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. It grew like a tech startup. While KindBody did help women start families,
Starting point is 01:09:53 it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like in the right hands. You're just not. Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one.
Starting point is 01:10:19 We sit down with politicians, artists, and activists to bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. The moment is a space for the conversations we've been having us, father and daughter, for years. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos. on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's your favorite jersey girl, Gia Judice. Welcome to Casual Chaos, where I share my story. This week, I'm sitting down with Vanderpump Rural Star, Sheena Shea. I don't really talk to either of them, if I'm being honest.
Starting point is 01:10:51 There will be an occasional text, one way or the other, from me to Ariana, maybe a happy birthday from Ariana to me. I think the last time I talked to Tom, it was like, congrats on America's Got Talent. This is a combo you don't want to miss. Listen to Casual Chaos on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Jenna Lopez, and in the new season of the Overcomfit Podcasts, I'm even more honest, more vulnerable, and more real than ever. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life? Like, am I ready to be in a relationship?
Starting point is 01:11:25 Am I ready to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time? Join me for conversations about healing and growth, all from one of my favorite spaces. The Kitchen. Listen to the new season of the Overcombered podcast on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Do we really need another podcast with a condescending finance brof trying to tell us how to spend our own money? No, thank you. Instead, check out Brown Ambition. Each week, I, your host, Mandy Money, gives you real talk, real advice with a heavy dose of I feel uses, like on Fridays when I take your questions for the BAQA. Whether you're trying to invest for your future, navigate a toxic workplace, I got you. Listen to Brown Ambition on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
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