Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Century Old Siblings

Episode Date: May 13, 2024

Both over 100 years old, sisters Minnie Howard and Dolly DeStefano haven't only seen it all, they've lived it all!Oliver dives into their fascinating upbringing and what it was like to be kids in the 1930's.How they both survived an accidental shooting, how many great great great grandkids they have, and how they have remained healthywell into their 100's. If this isn't #LifeGoals, we don't know what is!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to Casual Chaos on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It may look different, but Native Culture is alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. Somewhere along the way, it turned into this full-fledged award-winning comic shop. That's Dr. Lee Francis IV, who opened the first Native comic bookshop. Explore his story along with many other Native stories on the show, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson.

And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling rivalry. No, no. Sibling Ravelry. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling Reveory.

That's good. Well, hello, hello, hello, it's me. And by me, I mean Oliver. And if you don't know that by now, then you've got problems because you are listening to the Sibling Revellerie podcast with Oliver Hudson and Kate Hudson. Notice I put my name first.

Okay? Because Kate Hudson has taken a back seat. You understand what I'm saying? She's working. I get it. But it's the Oliver and Kate Hudson podcast now, where it used to be the Kate and Oliver Hudson. I'm older, number one, by two and a half years. I'm funnier.

Yeah, she has more money, potentially more talent. But I think people in my family love me more. at least these are the things that I take with me so I can get through the day and not feel like the black sheep I'm sitting in my kitchen right now drop the kids off

and that's just me I'm sure one of them's going to come down and bother me any second now anyway we have two guests today that are sisters and forget about anything else. Their names are Minnie and Dolly.

I mean, that alone is incredible. And they are sisters and they are 104 and 101 respectively. Pretty incredible. I mean, if there's any insight you're going to get into a full sibling relationship, this is it. So I'm going to get into it. All right. I'm not going to put kid gloves on. Even though they're in their hundreds, I'm still going to get after them. You know, Oliver Hudson does not hold back. I want to know about growing up. I want to know about the fights. I want to know about the boyfriends, the husbands. I want to know about 1920s, you know, what that was like. Fascinating across the board. These are by far the oldest siblings that we've had on. and I'm sure their wisdom is deep.

Let's bring them on my two favorite names, Minnie and Dolly. I am the oldest sister. I am, my name is Minnie. How are you? I'm good. My name is Oliver. How are you guys? Very good.

Good. So we have Minnie and Dolly. First of all, I love your names. And is this, Minnie, is this your real name? Or is this short for something? this is my real name okay and dolly same thing real name minnie and dolly uh no it's a nickname she's had since a baby oh okay so first question i have is in your hundred years plus of life have you ever seen someone as handsome as me um i didn't know to think about that just look

really quickly, you know. Not at all. No, the bones, look at the cheek. Look at the, I've got the high cheekbone, you know. Yeah. My sister says no, she's never seen anyone so handsome. Okay, good. It's a pleasure to talk to you guys.

I appreciate you for coming on. You know, you as siblings have seen a lot, done a lot, been through a lot together, I'm sure. First of all, let's start from the beginning, okay? How many siblings do you have, or how many siblings were in your family? We had four girls and one boy. So that means two of us are in there. Yes. And where did you grow up?

It was born in Rochester, but we moved all over. Every place. Every place. Virgin. And Dundee. And were you moving around with the family for work, for parent-parents' work and stuff? When were you guys born? What year?

1920. 1920. 22. Wow. Oh, my gosh. And where are you in the pecking order of the four? Are you guys the middle? At the end.

You're at the end. And has your relationship always been? extremely close? Yes, we were called little girls. And we had two sisters older. They were called the big girls. So, yes, we played together, fought together. Mm-hmm.

You did. And do you guys live together now? No. No. No. And you guys were happy about not living together, it seems. So growing up, you know, give us a taste of what it was like sort of 1920s. So when you were in your 10 years old, you're talking about in 1930s.

What was a day like for you guys as sisters? You know, what was that in the sort of, let's say, in the 30s, you know? I mean, just give us a little idea and insight as to sort of what life was like. Trying to think where we were at that time. Usually we played outside. We had a pet lamb that we played with and chased around the yard. Mostly it was outside playing in the summertime. In the wintertime, it was, of course, inside.

Mm-hmm. A ram-lam. A what? A ram-lan. A ram-lan. Lamb. Yes. Yes. It used to butt us. Oh, yes. Yeah. It had horns. Yes. So games would be running from the ram. Yeah.

Amazing. It was a lamb. My father rescued from being killed, and he had one ear off. And it was really, cute because he would come up in the morning on the porch in order to tell us, come on out and play with me. He would do that every day. Oh, wow. Yeah, so we have a ranch in Colorado, and we had a bunch of goats. And there was one that was not the nicest goat. And they were small-ish, but he had an attitude.

And he would, I have three kids. And when they were little, he would try to just pull them over. So you'd hear screaming from the house and you'd walk outside and see this little goat chasing my children as they're crying and screaming running across the gravel dirtway. I can see it. Do you guys have children? Yes, I hit six. Wow. Of course, they're all driving.

And what? I am not driving anymore. No. And you wouldn't want to see me on the street. No. And Dolly, how about you? How many children did you have? I didn't have.

I had one, just one. Oh, wow. Yeah. Okay. And were you guys married many times, one time? One time. One time. Good for you.

that's that's hard to come by these days you know what I mean yeah my my wife's parents my in-laws are high school sweethearts they've been together since they were 15 years old oh my goodness yeah I know and then grandkids great grandchildren oh one one grandchild

right just one Okay, but many, you must have more just because of your numbers. I cannot tell you how many I have. I have great, great, great grandchildren. Three greats? Three greats. And I had just one little one was born this, my great great great, yeah, great great great was born this year.

And he must be a few months old. I have no idea I cannot remember the names anymore. Oh, gosh, no. I mean, I'm 47 and I can't remember names of anything. I can't imagine having 187 grandchildren and great-grandchildren. It's like, all right, great. Another one? I'll meet, yeah, good for you.

I'll meet them later. Hey, it's your favorite Jersey girl, Gia Jude Ice. Welcome to Casual Chaos, where I'm. share my story. This week, I'm sitting down with Vanderpump Rural Star Sheena Shea. I don't really talk to either of them, if I'm being honest. There will be an occasional text one way or the other from me to Ariana, maybe a happy birthday from Ariana to me. I think the last time I talked to Tom, it was like, congrats on America's Got Talent. This is a combo you don't want to miss. Listen to Casual Chaos on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

It may look different, but native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for hundreds of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Teller Ornellis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other Native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation

basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then, at 6.33 p.m., everything changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal.

Apparently, the explosion actually impelled metal, glass. The injured were being. loaded into ambulances, just a chaotic, chaotic scene. In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, and it was here to stay. Terrorism. Law and Order Criminal Justice System is back. In Season 2, we're turning our focus to a threat that hides in plain sight. That's harder to predict and even harder to stop.

Listen to the new season of Law and Order Criminal Justice System on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So there's a story that I was reading about that you guys both got shot in the leg. Is this true? It is true. And you know what? I'm going to let my sister tell you because I told the last time I let her tell you this time. Okay.

Big deal, huh? Yeah, yes. Well, this neighbor boy came over to visit. I believe it was Christmas Day. And he came over to visit and everything and play around. And he started mucking with our China cabinet, which my father had made. And he put a closet in it for, guns, which he had locked up.

Well, so it wasn't locked at the time, and the boy opened it, which we kept telling him, don't open that, don't open it, you know, but he did. And that was it. He opened it, and I don't know what happened afterwards. I was sitting in the chair of my leg crossed, and opposite me was my sister, Dolly, and she, was standing up and the boy was a young boy he was proud of out five years old and we were probably um what what did I say seven five we probably were around seven five also but evidently the gun was too heavy and fortunately and it got me in above my knee went clean through

clean through and and I fell on the floor didn't know why I was there was so funny because I fell on the floor and I didn't know why I was there and and it got Dolly in the um you know a calf kind of like an upper calf of the leg the same bullet the same bullet oh my gosh it went through your leg and into dollies two with one so um she was able to she hopped and screamed to her mom who was visiting had a visitor there and it was a boy's and there was a relative anyway and she said i'm shot i'm shot so she was let mom know that we were hurt i was on the floor i did not feel pain i didn't feel anything and i won't why she was hollering i thought what's she hollering for but um that was it

And at that time, we had to call the doctor. The doctor would come to the house. And the bullet was taken out of my sister, Dolly, on the table, on the kitchen table. They had to do it on the kitchen table. Now, I'm not sure whether she had anything to take for that or not. I don't believe so. Oh, my gosh. So you were fine because it went right through you, but Dolly had to really deal with

the, oh, man, on your kitchen table, no hospital, no anesthetic. No, no, no, it wasn't even thought of the death. And I had to get the wounds cleaned out, but it was straight clean. It was clean. No bones were chipped, no anything. Wow. So I was fortunate. Do you still have the scar?

Yes, very faint. Yes. Still feel it. The real question is, what happened? to this kid? Nothing. Nothing? Nothing.

Because nothing happened then. It wasn't a big deal then. Now, did you still remain friends with him? Never saw him again. Wow. We were blamed for it because my mother was blamed for it. and I which was unfair

no I know I know so have you guys always been close you know was there a time when you were not so close or when you were living your own lives and separate from each other or has it always been important for you to remain in each other's lives oh no we we lived in each other's lives but she was down in Florida and I was up here and she got married in Rochester, right?

Yeah. But they moved down in Florida. Oh, they moved to Florida, so you guys moved near each other. But by, um, we were always, we always felt close, yes, because we'd call each other and, you know, right leather's visit. Mm-hmm. And did you, were you, did you guys work? Were you working back then when you were married?

I was. Not until later on. What did you guys do for living? Later on, when the kids were all out of school, except for one and she was working at school, I drove bus. Yeah. And how about you, Dolly?

I just work in an office. Yeah. Just do an office work, you know. So let me ask you a question. Do you like being 100 plus years old? Do you feel like you've reached some sort of a benchmark? We're like, hell yes, I'm 100 and you're not. No.

I don't even realize I'm 100. You don't? It doesn't seem possible. No. No. I don't feel 100? No. You don't?

except when I try to walk but you're you know isn't it amazing though I mean I'm again I'm 47 almost 48 but I feel like I'm 18 years old you know I mean at the end of the day it's about your spirit well

you know I mean of course we need to be mobile but who cares we don't we can have everyone we can have people take care of us now this is what this is what we need I do not feel that way. I do not feel that way.

In fact, I do have to have somebody take care of me. I have to live in my youngest daughter and her husband. And I do have to, yeah. I feel bad. I think I have to do that, but they want us too, so here I am. I live with the oldest daughter, and she lives with her young. youngest. Oh, really? Yeah. And you take care of you get. Oh, God.

Very good. Yes, very good. And do you guys see each other all the time? No. Well, yeah, at least twice a week. You do? My daughter, my oldest daughter says at least twice a week. Is your oldest daughter being truthful or is she blink twice if you're being held hostage? I don't know. We can't remember to tell you. This is amazing.

Well, when you guys get together, what does your day look like? I mean, do you just talk? Do you reminisce? Or are you living in the present moment? you know i mean how much do you live in your present moment right now and then how much are you living sort of reliving your past in the present moment i would say most of time yeah yeah we play we like to play games okay give me some games what games there's a uh romecule oh my god face 10 uh what's the other one forkle farckel that's a newest one with ice love farkel

Love Farkel. My wife and I play Farcal with the dice. Yes, yes. We play Yahtze, which I've always loved. Yeah. But let me explain something to you, girls. Okay. RummyCube has come into my life in a very strong way. My wife is obsessed with RummyCube. She cannot stop playing RummyCube. She plays it on her phone. She's constantly asking me to play live games. and I cannot win. I have not won one time in a live game. And I consider myself a pretty smart person, but the numbers and the patterns,

when the board gets too big, it jumbles in my head and I just lose everything. I can't do it anymore. That's one of my favorites. And then dominoes. Yes. Yes. Do you guys ever play for money?

No money. Come on. I do not like to play Dominole. That's fun. Well, maybe one of these days we can play Rummy Cube. Well, that would be great. That would be something. I know.

I know. I mean, if you guys played online, we could definitely play online. But maybe I'll cruise over there and play Rummy Cube with you guys. That would be good. Hey, it's your favorite jersey girl, Gia Judice. Welcome to Casual Chaos, where I share my story. This week, I'm sitting down with Vanderpump role star, Sheena Shea. I don't really talk to either of them, if I'm being honest.

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It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for the kind of two years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Teller Ornelis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other Native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn SageBurn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport.

The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then, at 6.33 p.m., everything changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal. Apparently the explosion actually impelled metal glass. The injured were being loaded into ambulances, just a chaotic, chaotic scene. In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, and it was here to stay. Terrorism. Law and order, criminal justice system is back.

In season two, we're turning our focus to a threat that hides in place. plain sight that's harder to predict and even harder to stop listen to the new season of law and order criminal justice system on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts so let me ask you a question and if it's if it's too much that's that's okay but i'm just curious like what's your as you get older you guys you guys I don't know about your health, but you seem very vibrant. You seem, you know, you are lucid. You are right there.

Your humor is on point. But as you reach these, you're into your hundreds, what does your relationship with death become like? You know, I mean, are you still afraid of it? Or is it just the natural part of life? Or is it just, hey, let's just keep going. Like, where's your head with that? Okay. No, not at all because my mother was sure that we went to church.

And every place we moved, we had to go to Sunday school. And we've been in, we see the Baptist Church, a Methodist church, Episcopal Church, Presbyterian Church, because we move so many times, and she wanted to make sure that we would have that foundation. and and I remember every night we used to kneel by her knee and say the little now I lay me down to sleep one and every night we had to say it so we believe so everything will be okay mm-hmm same with you dolly that gives you comfort well yes it does and I say the only reason we're a hundred We've got something to do. He's got something for us to do.

We've got to do it. We're here. That's a guess you are. You're here with a force. That's a good question, actually, is what do you attribute it to? I mean, were you guys, are you healthy eaters? Did you drink? Did you smoke?

You know, did you party? Or are you healthy? Do you know what I mean? We were from a poor family. So we didn't party. and we didn't have a lot of extra. So I think that's it. You know,

all the candy and everything that the kids have now. As far as drink, we are not drinkers, no. Yeah. What about laughter? Do you guys laugh a lot? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I like to laugh. Yes. Me too. Me too. That's, I think that's part of the key to longevity. You know, obviously you have to take care of your body. But I think humor and love and being with people who are able to sort of bring you those things can definitely increase, you know, increase your lifespan for sure.

You know, I mean, I feel like you guys laugh a lot. It just feels like you guys get together and laugh a lot. Yes. I'm not a up person. I mean, I'm not a down person. I'm a up person there. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

whichever way I am No I know I can I can see that I can see that and then who's better at RummyCube She is Well the one that beats first You know what the sweetness

Phuia they're competitive Are they? Are you guys competitive? Yeah extremely Yes when I come to that I am I like I like the way like Rummy

you play Rummy in the cards and I like Rummy Q because you can change so many ways to make you know make a number you can add in I like the different ways you can change your

whatever it is yes yes yes yes no I know I know um well listen you guys i really appreciate you sort of having this conversation with me and um you know we should all be so lucky feels like you know you guys have done it correctly we really have been blessed with long life i will say that much yeah well a long life if it's lived right and a long life if it's lived in happiness you

know, I mean, then it seems like you guys have. That's the key here. Yes, I mean, age is but a number, okay? Like you may be 104 and 101, but you don't feel that way. You know, you feel a mere, how old do you feel? Oh, I don't know, maybe, maybe 80. That's amazing. That is really great.

You feel 80. I mean, that's amazing. But it is true. It is true. You know, you guys, you know, it's 100, but it doesn't feel like that. You guys are awesome. Well, we were blessed with health, healthy. I have not, I haven't had to go to the hospital for any great thing at all.

I mean, with my children, yes. but I've been very fortunate. How old are all of your children, many? What's the oldest? I'll be 82. My oldest one is 82 because she told me just now. And my youngest one was born in 15 years younger. I know, but I can't attract.

82. Neither can I. That's why I don't play Rummy Cube. Do you hear what I? I'm saying like this is my problem math messes me up yeah 67 68 yes she's in their 60s my youngest one is in her 60s wow they all are driving yes that's good probably driving you crazy too and they're driving me around all the time which is good good good oh my god well I appreciate you guys thank you so much Thanks for taking the time.

And you are definitely an inspiration. Yeah, not just age, but just how you sort of handle it and the fun you have and being together as siblings, which is extremely important. When you can't remember, it's easy. Right. You have a new sibling every day, every week. Yeah, yeah. All right, I appreciate you guys.

Thank you. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Amazing. Talking to these young women, I wanted to get into a little bit more, but I got a little nervous.

You know what I mean? I wanted to, I tried to get a little philosophical. Then I wanted to maybe get into sort of just live this long extended life and all of the things that they must have seen and all of the technology and, you know, they live through the Great Depression and the Industrial Revolution and, you know, I mean, everything, moon going on the moon. They probably have a million stories, but I don't know, it didn't feel like I could break in with that. So, but, um, here's my takeaway. Just,

two siblings 100 plus years old getting together twice a week still which honestly is more than most people get with their siblings playing games laughing loving each other still competitive and not giving a shit about death you know what i mean they can't really get much better than that you know because death is funny man death used to freak the shit i used to get so scared of it when I was a kid because what I would do is I would, when I say kid, I mean, even like 10, 11, 12, I remember, I would just get quiet and in my room and just picture what death might feel like. And even though you probably don't feel death, essentially, although we don't know, it's just this idea of being black and nothingness.

would just put me into some sort of a tailspin. And I can still go there even in my 40s, 47. I think I've said that a thousand times today. Maybe I'm getting scared of my age. But even now I can put myself there. And having kids, too, it's funny because I heard this notion that, oh, when you have kids, your sort of fear of death goes away because it's not about you anymore, right?

It's about someone else. and it's about them protecting them, you know, making sure, you know, that they're safe. So it sort of takes this onus, this pressure off of you, you become selfless. Well, you know what? That's horse shit because it makes me more afraid. Not for myself, but for my kids, you know. My shit is like, oh, if I'm not there for my children, if I go, they are going to be so screwed up. and I cannot do that.

So whenever I fly alone or because I get a little nervous to fly or, you know, whenever I go out on my boat potentially and there's weather, I'm like, all right, dude, come on. But I truly believe that if you can find yourself in an amazing relationship with death, meaning you don't fear it, because it is inevitable, which it is. And if you can truly not fear death, that's when you can fully live. Because fear is sort of what holds us back from everything. I mean, fear, number one. I mean, if you were to distill all of your negative emotions, negative feelings,

you're to distill that down, at the bottom of that barrel will be fear. and if you can truly eliminate fear it opens you up to just living as full as you can live you're no longer afraid to take chances calculated chances you're you're no longer afraid to try something new um you're no longer afraid to fail and that's my biggest shit is just fear of failure looking stupid but you can't learn you can't get better unless you fail that's cliche but it's the truth so I guess my takeaway is just uh you know let go fucking let go I mean they also never drank or smoked or did anything bad so let's not forget about that I mean their bodies are probably like so pure you know mine is not mine you know it's it's it's it's been through some

shit it's been through some shit anyway um that was fun it was short it was sweet and i have this feeling that you know they're going to be 145 years old they just seem right on top of it anyway Well, I won't see, but I'll be in your earbuds in your earbuds in about a week. So good luck out there, everyone. Maybe I'll do a pirate radio show like Christian Slater was and pump up the volume, where I just talk and riff and rant. You know what I mean? But maybe I'll use that voice disguises,

so I sort of sound like this. Anyway, I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm out. Peace. Hey, it's your favorite jersey girl, Gia Judice. Welcome to Casual Chaos, where I share my story. This week, I'm sitting down with Vanderpump role star, Sheena Shea. I don't really talk to either of them, if I'm being honest.

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Somewhere along the way, it turned into this full-fledged award-winning comic shop. That's Dr. Lee Francis IV, who opened the first Native comic bookshop. Explore his story along with many other Native stories on the show, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, it's Stephanie Beatriz. And Melissa Fumero, and this is More Better. We are jumping right in and ready to hear from you. Your thoughts, your questions, your feelings about socks with sandals.

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