Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Clutch Your Pearls with Katie Lowes from 'The Hunting Wives'!

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

She may play a privileged God-fearing woman on the Netflix hit ‘The Hunting Wives,’ but the real Katie Lowes is funny, fierce, and ready to drop an f*** bomb at any moment!  Katie takes Oliver back to her Shondaland days and reveals a rule she had to follow on the set of 'Scandal'! Plus, find out which Emmy-winning actress DIDN’T hire her as a personal assistant, and what she had to do to nail the 'Hunting Wives' audition!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Can you out petty them? Can you match their pettiness for fun? All the things. Because aren't we all trying to get a little more better? Listen to more better on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings.

We are a sibling. Reveory. No, no. Sibbling reverie. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling Reveory. That's good.

Oliver Hudson here, rocking a mustache. I like it, and I don't even know why I like it. I think it gives me a little edge, a little sense of danger, you know, a little sort of dirty sex appeal. And I never purposely shave a mustache, meaning it's not something that, you know, I go. I'm like, I'm going to do a mustache, and I'm going to really figure this out. It's more of when I shave my beard, which I just let grow, and then I don't like and I get lazy, and I just let it grow, and I just, then I shave my beard.

And I'm just like, you know what, I'm just going to try out this mustache. and then I try it out. I'm like, hell yeah. And then I shower, and then I get to the shower, and my wife and my daughter are like, no, especially my daughter. She goes, Daddy, no. Go back in the bathroom and shave your mustache. She hates it, but I say, Rio, look, this is the sign of a real man.

And if you want your daddy to be a real man, then you're going to embrace this mustache. So I've got the stash going. I got grays happening, which is fine. fine sort of embracing the gray um anyway enough about me and my mustache uh we have someone in the waiting room the second person that i'm interviewing from the hunting wives and she has done many many many many more things she was in scandal she is just a really amazing actress and uh let's get into her life let's see if we can make her cry let's dig in

bring on katie loz hi oh well hello well hello there how are you love good love how are you very fucking good um cursing oh yeah my gosh i have the worst my mouth i mean i my kids i've been cursing in front of my kids since day one i i drink in front of my kids i smoke in front of my I have a whole different way of parenting that may or may not work. So far, it seems to be working because my kids are pretty fucking awesome. But we are a bit old school in that, hey, I'm going to do me and I'm not going to hide anything from you. Love it. This doesn't mean that you can just emulate me.

This shit is not good for you, but I'm an adult. And I'm making bad choices. My thing is not that cursing is a bad choice or drinking or smoking. No, no, no, no, no. I don't give a shit, but I tell my kids, I go, you know what sucks? Is that in our house, I go, if you're over 18, you can curse. When you're 18, you can decide what kind of language you want to use, but that's just not today. Now, my kid's four and seven.

And I do that only because I don't want to be, I don't want them to be saying fuck in front of four-year-olds and then aren't allowed to come over and have like a play date. Yeah. No, I know. I mean, that was the risk we took, but for whatever reason, they kind of understood that this is what we do and they can't. I mean, my oldest is 18. I've got 15 and then I've got 12. Oh, my God. You feel great. Oh, my God. Well, it's Dr. Diamond. So hard. Like, I just have so much longer to go. I mean, I know. And everyone says, and maybe you feel this way too, but I hear most of the time, like just enjoy these times.

like they are it has gone fast i will say i mean the beginning was really slow but but i i feel like now i'm like oh my god he's eight and we're dealing with like second grade and it's already surpassed my math knowledge like yeah oh gosh fuck that's a whole different ballgame with the math especially where they're in like eighth grade or seventh grade they're like dad like i need help i'm like I have no idea like thank God for chat GPT at this point because I don't know what the hell I'm doing when my son my son is 18 so you're getting ready for second grade I'm getting ready for fucking college and it's semi devastating and they're gonna leave and like now you're like wait I don't know this is so I mean I left it 17 and never came home yeah yeah and I'm so I love my

parent like we're close and everything's still tight Oh, my God. I just talked to my mother before you got on. Yeah. And I was like, I mean, it's like 100 times today. We're so close. And actually, I went to college, like 18 miles from their house, but I still never went home. Oh, really?

Well, that's the thing. Wilder is, my oldest is Wilder. Wilder is, he does not want to stay in California. Of course, we're like, look at Santa Barbara. It's great. You're only an hour and a half away. You know, and he's like, Dad, I want to get out. You know, he either wants to do New York or Colorado, you know, so he's just,

Oh, that's so great. I know. He's deciding on whether, like, he wants the college experience. Sure, sure, sure. Or sort of the city vibe. Yeah. Yeah. The good news, I will say, is everyone I went to college with, because I went to NYU, who was from Cali.

That's where he wants to go. To college in New York City, they all went back home to California. Yeah. Everyone that stayed in California for college, then they had to leave because they're going to want to leave at some point. Yes. Yes. So I think your odds are better of them coming home and closer to you would be if they go away for college. I think you're right.

And my entire family, myself, Kate, Wyatt, mom, pa, Boston, all my whole family lives 10 minutes from each other still. Oh, they're coming back. They are. And I think we've just mirrored that. We've set that precedent to where the kids are probably going to be like, well, you know, I kind of want to be home. I like this vibe, you know, that's, that's the wishful thinking.

Oh, my brother lives around the corner from me in L.A. Really? Oh, yeah. I'm like you, I'm so close with my, I mean. Yeah. Yeah, my brother and I, we're two years, nine months apart, and he looks four minutes from me in the valley. Wow. And the only time we didn't live near each other was college. And he, his two kids are, my kid's age. So we're only missing my parents. I have to like get them out there. Where are your parents? We grew up in New York, born, raised in York, and my parents are hippies

and moved to Vermont. Amazing. Amazing. My mom's a yoga teacher. My dad's a fashion photographer. And let me tell you, their quality of life in Vermont is better in a lot of ways than LA, only because they canoe and kayak and do all this outdoorsy shit. Yeah. however their four grandchildren are in los angeles i know i know before we get into all that stuff do they do they grow their own weed they don't but they partake and all their friends do of course i don't think you can live in that state without being like a blazer it's the fucking best they don't grow it they smoke it my dad's not so much my mom but my you know we all as And I don't know how you do it in your family, but we had spent kind of old school New York.

We always drank with my parents, which I thought, well, we always grew up with like a ski house. My parents are really outdoors. And just part of the ethos was like, they didn't care that we were like seen having a drink. They just didn't care. Same. We're the same. We're the same way. I thought it was so great.

However, they really, we were those kids in high school and college, hiding by the window, blowing, we. out the window for some reason that wasn't allowed and then on my mom's 60th birthday my brother and I were like I think we're done I think we're ready to take our relationship with our parents to the next level and get fucking stoned yeah and just let's just let it be known that we do this they've always known we've done it they do this we always know they do it why is this so we took my mom to Amsterdam for her birth 60th birthday and and and actually smoked the worst weed in the history of the world.

Because now when you're in California and you go to Amsterdam, you know, it's horrible. Like, we were all paranoid. I mean, I felt like I did in college. Like, just, like, it was horrible. It was not great. Since then, we've corrected the experience.

Yeah. Times over and now it's great. It's so fun. It's just, it's fun. And again, you have to have the right family to be able to do that. You know, it's, you know, going back to the kids,

kids thing. My philosophy was let's desensitize these fuckers before they get into the real world, meaning like, no, there's alcohol, there's weed, you can go do things. I'm going to give you your independence. You know, there are certain things that I care about. There are certain things, you know, that I'm strict about, and it's mostly personality shit. But all the other stuff, the more you hold them back from the vices, from the things that we know they're going to do anyway, the more they're going to want to do them. And I've seen that in real

life, you know, where these kids are so deprived of sugar or this or that. And they have such a craving and a ravenous desire to have all of it and consume, consume that when they finally are 18 and they finally go to college, it's just like, ah, and then it's all fucked up. It's horrible. Yeah. My son's best friend's mom's a dentist, so they're not allowed any gummy. candy and I constantly open up my pantry and that kid is mainlining like eight packages of welches and my kids don't even care about it anymore. The only thing that's going to be tricky is I think we've gotten anywhere near there yet but my husband and I think we're we're going to feel differently. We've been together 19 years and he grew up in a very strict household.

My house, as you could probably tell, like my mom rather have all the kids at our place, you know, growing up, like, I rather have you guys under my roof, and I know what's going on. You're going in any way. That's like us, yeah. And also, you know, not, now driving doesn't matter because you can. I know. When I grew up, drunk driving was a huge problem. So we have, like, you know, my dad said, you know, you get three, get out of jail-free

cards in high school. You can call me any time day or night. I'll never ask. I'll pick you up. You can be completely enibrated. I will be so proud that you didn't get in someone's car. car or something like. Yeah, yeah. But my husband was like a total goody two shoes. It's like a late bloomer, you know, like he partied in college and everything, but he really

wasn't, his parents were not the ones that exposed him to any of that stuff. So I, I'm curious how this is going to look when my kids are teenagers. And he and I, it's nice that you guys are all in the same alignment on like, because my husband will look at me and I'll say fucking for my kids and I don't be like, Katie. Yeah. watch the potty mouth want my father is my his grandmother is just as bad as I am yeah you know um yeah and his parents are like very proper so yeah how is that integration when you guys met well was there stress around it or no well actually he would say he almost didn't date me because he thought it was not very attractive how found my mouth no way really yeah he

He thought it was like a little too much. And then he wised up and he came over to the dark side and now he speaks just like I do. Yeah. It's more fun. I mean, but it does come out like he's still a little skittish in front of the kids, which I hadn't seen, you know, like he's sort of changed and started letting go about it. Yeah, but it's a good balance. You know what I mean? Because my wife and I maybe were two free foralls and it's like, okay, now you're off the fucking rails at least.

There is some structure. There is some sensibility where it's like, oh, mom's a little nutty. She does her thing. And, yeah, dad's fun too, but he sort of holds that structure. And he sort of holds the line a little bit. And then DNA is crazy. I also look at the family you grew up in. You're around non-traditional people in their business, in their day-to-day.

You know, like, my parents were always already, like, and my husband's parents are school teachers for 55 years so it's like right now you have three kids three I have three yeah I have three oh I could two boys and my little girl oh I couldn't go we did two and I was like I'm out do you have boy girl I have an older boy and yeah yeah see we had two boys and then it was kind of a little weight period and it was like are we done and I was just like I want a girl I really did I wanted a boy first, and I made no bones about it. This whole thing of like, I just wanted to be healthy. Of course we do.

No, I wanted a girl. We all have a choice. We all have a decision. There's no world where we don't have that thing. And I was vocal about it. I'm pretty transparent and filtered. And I was like, I want a boy. Because I want to get it out of the way.

I want a boy, and then I can have 800 girls. And we didn't find out the sex of the kids. Oh, did you know what that? Oh, it was amazing. I mean, it was just the greatest surprise. It was the last sort of great secret of humanity. You know what I mean? Yeah.

And when Wilder came out and I saw his super red balls and his tiny peen, I was just like, you hear me on the camera. And my voice goes up like 100 octaves. I'm like, it's a boy. I started like losing it, you know? But then I wanted the girl. I wanted the girl. Why do you want the boy first?

What's your order as how you grew up? I'm the oldest than Kate. Uh-huh. So older boy, younger girl. The older boy, younger girl. And then Wyatt is half. But, you know, and then he came in 10 years later, 10 years later, you know. So that was kind of the order.

I just wanted the boy because I knew I wanted a boy. I didn't want to have like two girls in and be like, oh shit, here we go. Like, you know, I wanted a boy. And so I wanted to get him out of the way. And I think it's like a 70% chance. Most people who have the first two the same, the third is like a 70% chance it's going to be the same. I'm Jorge Ramos.

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It was COVID and it was a freaking nightmare. Oh, gosh. I got pregnant a week after shutdown. Like, shutdown was March 13th. And then March 18th, I took a pregnancy test. And I was like, oh, my God. Mm-hmm. I mean, it was cool because I just spent my entire pregnancy home and alone.

Pretty cool. That's cool. And not having to work or do it. Yeah, it's great. Yeah. But also terrified in that like every day. It was like, your person's not allowed in the room. This doesn't.

I know. It doesn't. Anyway, I just opened up an email said it was a girl and I've never been so fucking happy. And I love, I do my, my older boy is such a good big brother. Like you really taking it. Like this is. the first year they're at the same school yeah and he's like hugging her and telling her to have a good day and i can't wait to see you on the yard and like he's just doing stuff that is i hope it sticks

and i used to ask like go around and ask people how many beers are between you two are you close with your sibling like why you're close with your sibling and there's no no like only people who are two years apart only people who are five years apart it's not it's really it's funny what determines it, I don't know. You know, obviously, the show is called Sibling Revelry, so we've talked to a ton of siblings, and it's pretty incredible, actually, how

everyone's stories are so different. And we all have a different perspective on how we were raised, even though we were raised by the same people. Even if it's two years and nine months apart, your idea of who your parents are might differ from what your sibling thinks, because

even though you were raised similarly, there are differences there and we can't deny our own DNA and genetics and the way we perceive things because we are humans, right? And, you know, where one person might have hated their father, the other one says, I don't get it. I fucking love that, you know. Right. And it's so interesting. Oh, so, so many, so many times.

Any of the siblings say, like, it was mandatory in our family that we, like, had each other's backs or we were each other's people, like, person. there are a lot of that or not even? Well, it's funny because I try to instill that. I think that every family would want that, you know, at the same time, our individuality doesn't necessarily allow us to just be that all the time because who knows what some external circumstances are going on in our lives that don't, you know, allow us to always have their back. Like my sister, she wanted my back.

you know she wanted me to have her back she wanted my love so badly because I was the only sort of real male even though I was older I was a kid but dad had bailed you know and Kurt was in our lives but you know he was stepdad at the time and she needed that but I was

going through my own shit as a little boy who's a product of divorce I couldn't give her anything in fact I she repelled me in a way I was kind of like I didn't I just I needed to deal with my own shit.

Right. And it's sad now to think about. And we talk about it all the time. But of course, we become best friends now, you know. But I say that to my kids, I'm like, you're all you got. You know, I'm like, I just, you got to love each other. I do the same. I do the same.

Like, do you see this person? This is the person. Like I, sometimes I'm like, you know, I felt like there were a lot of moms that were pregnant when I was pregnant. They were like felt bad about it. They were like, I just feel bad that I'm going to be. adding a person to the family that's taking away attention from the other one. I was like, are you fucking kidding?

I'm doing this as a gift. A hundred percent. I'm putting myself through this again. Yeah. Because I don't want him to be by himself alone. Like I just know I've met some phenomenal only children. That's that there's nothing against that. I just,

no, not at all. I love having a brother. Of course. It's a whole thing. And that's what we're finding out too is, is siblings are closer than, than they are with their own parents, essentially, because they can confide in each other. They're in each other's space all the time.

They most likely sleep together for the first years of their lives. Like, we are in our siblings' lives more than maybe we want to be. So that relationship can be extremely bonding and strong work and go the other way, of course. You know, watching my kids grow up, it's just so interesting to watch these sort of see these transitions. you know, were wild or my oldest was, I wanted to get tattooed on myself. Can you cuddle? Because all he wanted to do was cuddle and be in my bed. And now he's 18 and I can barely touch him without him flinching.

I'm like, yo, what's wrong with you? Like, I love me, God damn it. You know what I mean? I'm like, do you know who you were just seven years ago? What's this going on? And then I watch him with Rio, my youngest daughter. And I want him to love her more and protect her more. but he fucks with her as a brother would.

He's supposed to. Yeah, I know, I know. And all I can do is get in their ear and that's it because we have to let them individuate. We have to let them be who they are, you know. Do you believe in birth order? Like, do you think there's a real? Yeah, we had a birth order expert on the podcast that we wrote books

and it was pretty fascinating, actually. I think that is the realest shit ever. Did they say it? It is the realest shit. You end up like a lot, like I'm, I'm the oldest, but I'm married a youngest. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

You know, like a lot of people end up recreating the birth order in some relation to the birth order they grew up in, whether they're recreating it again or, like, rebelling against it. But, like, if you think about the couples in your life, a lot of people aren't, like, older to older or younger to younger or whatever. What are you? Yeah, that's interesting. Well, I married, Aaron is almost four years older than me.

Is she a sibling, though? she's the oldest and you're the oldest I'm the oldest so you have two olders which is very interesting do you guys are you both really like responsible

like type A like want to get it all she is okay she is she is but she also is like ADD which I just discovered I do too I did this brain scan with this guy Dr. Amen

and it was fucking amazing it was three days injecting like literally radioactive material in your body but it's safe and he has this scanner you can google him he's like incredible he was on my podcast yeah and you go through this process and he can map out your brain see your brain there's holes in your brain of where you've had trauma whether it be you know physical trauma emotional trauma and then he can really see the ADHD brain because there's actual physical holes in it even though

they're not actual holes but that's what they sort of come out as and i've always kind of noted and he's like Yeah, you have fucking ADD. I'm like, I know. My husband has really bad. I just, I just like put this patch on. I'm starting this like weird medication that's like only four and a half milligrams just to see if the shit works, you know. Is it like an ad or like my, he might. He would do so well if he could like my husband's ADHD is.

Yeah. Not great. Yeah. But he tried things to help focusing and help all of that. And he always has like horrible side effects. so he's not on anything. My husband and I balance each other out because he's like,

just fucking fall ass backwards into like a non-scheduled day. And I'm like, what is that? I've never heard of that. I'm like your husband. You're probably like my wife. I'm the same thing. I hate scheduled.

I hate plans. I fucking hate it. Every plan that we make, even a week out, when the day comes around, I'm like, I don't want to do that. And now I'm locked in.

Oh, God. And I've done it right. I've established myself amongst my friends and peers that this is who I am. So you no need to get offended. You have said precedent where I can fucking bail. Just because I don't want him. Yeah. So I don't want to do this on Thursday?

I'm like, yeah, maybe. I don't know. We'll just like, we'll figure it out. Like, that's going to be on my headstone. We'll figure it out. Figure it out. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos.

Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith, but there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in. To bring you depth and analysis.

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I have this thing that happened last year. It was a mom group that on the west side that rents like a club that only plays 90s and 2000s music. Yeah, like hip hop and it's the best. It's only women and it starts at 6.30 and it's a complete rap by 9.30. That is amazing and hysterical all the same time. it's like mostly moms yeah it's really great because you can like put your fucking drink down anywhere you can wear absolute garbage sweatpants yeah like whatever nobody's just up nobody has makeup on like nobody's tried um i've never been at a line at a bar at 630 with just like all

tired moms and danced so hard wait a minute is this is this a place or is this something that you do you rent out a spot they rented out out. It's a mom group friends of mine that they rent it out. How often does this happen? It's like once a year and it's two nights before my birthday this year and I'm not that big of a birthday person either but I was like, what?

I'm coming from the valley and they're on the west side so I'm getting a party bus. This is so great. I'll be home in bed asleep by 10. This is so great. And it's the best. You dance with like old school record

band in of like. How many women are there? Oh, it's probably like 300. Holy fuck. So this is a this is like a public party that you can go to. Well, no, it's only like underground like word of mouth moms. Oh my God. And it was really fun last year. Like each mom group, there were so many text changes. Like have you heard? Have you heard like it's happening again? Yeah. And like each like this is what

the Santa Monica moms did. This is what the Valley moms did. This is what the Beverly Hills. I mean, look, no one's fancy by any. stretch it's like very very down i feel like this needs to be something like either like a short form documentary or centered around some sort of crazy you know comedy like a like a bridesmaid style comedy centered around this like it is fun it is fun to like not worry about yeah like no one's worried about their drinks or getting too drunk or yeah so themselves or like you know feeling like they have to be like sexy when they dance i'm not that anyone feels that way anyway but He does change the vibe when, like, there are no dudes there.

Yeah. Our men and women just so funny and what a different species we actually are. Imagine if we had a middle-aged, 300-person dance party for only dudes. I mean, just picture the scene. It would not go well. I don't know if anyone would even dance. It would just be like, dude. No, they feel so uncomfortable.

I think they would feel really weird. No, I mean, I don't know. Like, my brother and my husband love to dance. Like, they're at a wedding, like, that gets such a, I mean, honestly, y'all should try it. I used to have a dance crew called the Rice Krispies, Snap Crackling Pop. So I was in high school. Like, I loved to dance. Like, I was, like, practicing in the week.

This guy, Logic was my coach. I was doing floor work. and fucking, I mean, I was heavy, heavy into the 90s hip hop scene. Do we get a revival of snapcrackle pop? I think so, yeah. I think so. I mean, like hip hop, like. Hip hop.

Oh, for sure. Yes. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't choreography. It was more of like freestyle white boy Pacific Palisades dancing, you know. Wow. I think dance is good. I mean, I've reintroduced dance as a 40-year-old woman.

and I go to like dance classes now. That's awesome. All the talka just like I honestly, I fucking hate working out. And that's fun. And I like that I have to try to remember steps. I feel like that's good. Good for your brain, yeah. I don't know.

I sort of feel, I don't know, maybe turning 42, 43. Like, I feel, I actually like odd. And I think it's from having kids and like raising them with my brother and my, but like, I just feel like better about like almost like my body and moving than I ever did in my 20. Oh yeah. 100% my mom, you know, my mom's a dancer. That's what she wanted to be and she became Goldie. But like she was a dancer. That's what she did. That's what she wanted to do. She taught little girls ballet. That's 18 years old in New York City all by herself. She's got the most amazing stories you could possibly imagine of coming up and how she made it. It's unbelievable. My sister was an

amazing dancer. My daughter right now is is on her first. dance team so she's dancing like seven days a week and she's beautiful like just a beautiful dancer incredible dance is so great i've like we just heard it i'm so into it i'm like i'll fucking shake it with anybody now oh yeah what was weird i'm on this show right now i know i want to talk to you about i just had chrissey on too you did yeah yeah yeah yeah and we've been and my wife and i've been watching it were like four episodes in i know what goes down though because i wanted to you know to talk to you all about it. Oh, it's fine.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I know you're not a, you don't care about spoilers and shit, right? Yeah. I don't give a shit. But it is, it's fun, man. It's fun, but we danced a lot on that show, a kind of dance I'd never done,

which was I've never spent time in the South. I never. And we went honky tonk line dancing most weekends when we were shooting that show. There was a bar that's in the first episode called Coyote Joe's. That's in Charlotte. It's about a 500 person dance floor. get there from like six to eight and you learn the shit and then at eight o'clock like

if everyone's going right and you're going left you're getting trampled like it's crazy so fun and a type of dance I've never I've never been like a girl half being human being and I just got into it so the whole cast we went all the time I didn't really get it until I saw the first few episodes and I was like holy shit like you know i was just like out to lunch being my like unhinged self you're so funny i had landed like a pig and shit like i was like you know my mother talks like this like third generation queens like the fact that you know it's hard i i think i feel like i book a lot of things i don't know if you feel this way too that where people are like you are the person or it's a version of

a hundred percent when someone's going to trust you and say like oh no no i want you to be a a East Texas preacher's wife with high hair and accent and shoot guns and shit. I was like, me? Okay. Like that's the best. Like I felt like I was like back in. So fun. Yeah, doing campy.

Like, you know, I was a theater nerd. I'm a big theater kid. And I never even thought I was going to move to L.A. I told my mom, I said, I didn't even take driver's ed. I said, why? I'm living in New York City for the rest of my life. I'm only doing theater. I'm never, ever.

So when I, I think the show was so fun because we just got to be like kind of like unapologetically like loud about it. Yeah. Oh, like that's how it felt when we were in there. No, I know. Well, I was going to ask you about that because personally, you come on the screen. I know you from your other work, but I've been watching you. And you come on. I'm like, holy shit.

Is this, do I have the right person on right now? Like you get the New York vibe, you know, you're the city girl. Like, you know, it's funny to see. So when you're creating that character, and I'm interested in this just even as an actor, and you make the choice to sort of present this person like that and go big, right, and really be out there. Did you, were you nervous about that? Or did you have to sort of perform it a little bit and understand sort of what it was? Did it just come out of you?

Did you work with creators on saying this is kind of what I'm vibing on? This is what I'm feeling. Well, you know what's funny? I audition for everything. Like, I'm so glad they're actors that get like offers and shit. But I actually, and I actually like auditioning because I feel like we've agreed upon in a way. My take on a basic level. Yeah.

When I auditioned, I auditioned for a different role, Callie. Because, you know, I didn't want to die. Yeah. It was a one-year deal. This was like our first auditions out of the strike. And so my whole team was like, well, you should probably go for the one that's like going to be on for open for seasons. So I auditioned for Callie, but I read the pilot and I was like, oh, fuck, I'm a Jill. I'm such a Jill.

I know I'm a Jill. I could do Jill if they let me do it. And they called right after and they were like, we really like her Callie, but will she read tape for Jill? And it sort of took, I teased my hair. I looked at, you know, like. Joel Austin, like famous creatures, what their wives are like, what they dress like, what, what, you know, what, what a sort of clutching your pearls, higher the hair closer to God type vibe would be. And I just, I back tease the shit out of my hair. I put on the southern accent.

I dressed kind of primly and like, and then I was like, I get this. And then we were just, they, they agreed. Like it was like, we were there and sort of took care of itself. Oddly, on, I, I've worked in Shondaland for like 15 years and all the shows I've done there. She's word perfect and that script is Bible. You got it. That is scary to me. I am a very free form actor where I like to improv or throw.

shit around or that would be so scary to be like you have to be working that is not like I remember the first like few episodes of scandal like she just was like shonda was like what you say is up to me how you say it is up to you but like full stop that's it um and this was the first show i've been on and that i can really remember where Rebecca you know we would get takes that were how it like you're saying how it was on the page. But a lot of those like hunting wife scenes where all the wives are there and we're drinking memosia. Yes.

Bloody Mary's and everyone's kind of got their part. There's like the one who always says the most brash thing or I'm always like, oh my God, don't say a bad word. And Molly being sexy as hell. Like everyone's got their lane. But the, but the group energy is bigger than any of one of us combined. And we improv the shit out of those scenes. And it's a living, breathing.

thing and I had never done that and I thought it was the best so fun oh I mean you go into like a fugue state like you're just sort of like really alive and yeah and it was just really really fun and I've gotten now to do like scandal like guys but inventing Anna too like I've done a few shows now where it's a lot of like women in scenes and I'm very like it's just a fucking last. Like, it's just like on the dance floor and Santa Monica. And my birthday. Exactly.

With Shonda, though, like, can you say ums or ifs or nothing at all? Like, it has to be bang, bang, bang. Yeah. And when you, does she correct you? Because I'm sure it happens all the time where actors come in and add little things. Not improvbing lines, but it's just saying, uh, something. like that. So the script supervisor would come in immediately and even like guest stars would know pretty

quick like that doesn't happen here. Scandal was a specific case because we had something called scandal pace where 42 minute show, we had 90 page scripts. So she was like, we don't have time. The style of this show is, you know, she was, she was, I mean, you know, she loved West Wing. She loved Sorkin. So like, she was going for a vibe where there was. was no time for fumbling words or leaving space to think. And thank God our casting director

because it's not something that all actors thrive in. Just like how I wouldn't thrive in like always killing amazing improv buttons. Like that's not my jam. Like I, I thrived in a really calculated script environment. Like that reminds me of like theater school or something. No, and the castor director did a great job because she, I think, through a lot of actors in there that is that they are good at that. Yeah. Oh, like the Josh Molinas, the, you know, the people, they were like, that's what they do. They talk really fast. They don't make stuff up.

There's no ands or us or none of that. Yeah. But then you get it to set where that's the skill. And I have to say, I was like, oh, shit. Like I, you know, muscle. I was like, oh, my God. I don't like, first of all, I better be saying correct things. Like, I don't know come from a place of like, bless her heart.

Like, that doesn't roll off mind. Right, right. And we got a couple of the wives are actually from Texas. And I kind of used them dramaturgically. Like, I was like, what would a preacher's wife like say? Like, what would be things so I can keep them in my arsenal of like, because I don't, you know, if I was here, And I'd be like, you know, you motherfucker or whatever.

Like, that's fine. But I can't do. No, no. It'd be weird to break into that. Yeah. Like, I'm like improvising as a preacher's way. Yeah. Oh, that's so fun.

Really fun. It was really, really fun. We had the best time. We all lived in Charlotte. It was the first time I'd ever left my kids. How was that, by the way? Because that's such a huge part of my career, my life, or lack of career in some instances. Because they played such a big part in.

me working and where I was working and how long I was working. Yeah, it was really, this was the first time my kids are so young that I've taken them everywhere and amazingly have been wildly supported with my previous bosses of like helping us find locations for nannies and help and my husband coming and that's how we've always rocked it. And then this like they, everyone told me they're going to get in school and you're not going to be able to take them out. And that's, you know, like, and that's sort of what happened. I knew this was a fine night job. It was four or five months in Charlotte and that Jill was going to die. And like,

so I didn't need to like, and I didn't really want to move my family to Charlotte. So this was the time I, you know, I did like 13 round trip flights in. I know. I know. It's so crazy. It's so crazy. And I had so much anxiety about it. And being a bad mom and like, oh. I had to go back on lexapro after i did Nashville or in the middle of doing Nashville I did Nashville show called Nashville in Nashville and with Connie Britton with Connie babysit for you did

I was her babysitter for a while she's a dear friend of mine oh I fucking love Connie she's the fucking best I was supposed to be she was the one I had had every side job I worked at this restaurant called ammo for years and years and years oh my god I loved ammo he was the was it on Highland yeah yeah they had a meatloaf I waited on you yes

I'm sure I waited on you and they probably used them for catering. I probably been in your homes. That's so funny. I ran their catering department. I catered all their weddings, but I also was a waitress there for years and years. And I was a babysitter and a nanny and a bartender and all the jobs. But I always said I was never going to be a personal assistant because I just think that's now crossing another line where like somebody's life and passions has to sort of be more.

and your own. The only person I said I'd do it for was Connie Britton because she lived up the street. And I was like, she's the best actress in the world. And maybe I can learn something and someone will give me a shot at this. We met for like three or four hours. And she called me a few days later.

And she said, you know, Katie, I was scrolling the channels, which we used to do back in the day. And I came across you as a guest star on private practice, and I don't think you should be my personal assistant. I think I should try one more pilot season. Come babysit for me, you know, on like a few days a week, and let's see what happens. In the next week, I booked Scandal. How old were you when you booked Scandal?

28. And how long were you in L.A. trying to make it happen? I moved to L.A. when I was 24, but I had already been auditioning in New York since I was 20. So it took like eight years of, I mean, I'd been acting my whole life, but my wife didn't do it professionally until I was 20. But then I saw the best part was like Nashville was ABC and Scana was ABC. So I always see her out on red carpet events and she would just be like, I knew it. Like you were going to get it.

job like you got a job that's pretty cool you love performing it was just everything that you wanted to and my brother was like the sports guy like yeah really like you know lacrosse football he was in band um and we were always really close i think it helped that we were so drastically different like he came to all of my shows which got really weird in college because i went to tish School of the Arts in every fucking show. We were naked and gyrating on each other and God knows what else. My nephew's at Tish right now, Katie's, my son's Kate's kid. Oh, really?

Oh, my God. And then he has a friend who is there too who is in, I don't know the schools, but a certain school. Yeah. And she had to get out because, no, because she was like, this is too crazy. Experimental theater way. I don't know, but especially in today's age, there's people rolling around in like, you know, furry outfits, like dragging a litter box behind them, you know?

And it's just... That would be in school. Right. She's just like, okay, I want to be an actor. This is not what I need to do. Yes. My parents would come and my little brother. And I went to all of his sport things and I still don't understand them.

But it was understood that you supported your other person's passion. Sure. I think it was helpful that we were really different. But in college, I remember I did one. play where someone, like, I bear my chest, someone feels them, and then someone is like masturbating in like a plastic. Oh, my God. And this is what your...

This is what your brother has to go watch? Not only that, but in like a 30-seat black box theater where it's not even like a proscenium where there's any difference between the audience and the lights are on because the audience feel fucking uncomfortable. I will have you know this play. is called Beirut. It happened off Broadway. Marissa Tomei was in it.

So it's like legit. Okay. It was directed by Leslie Headland, who is become a, she's a big Janixa Bravo. Like all these people have, but my brother sat there turned completely green. My parents were like,

we miss you doing the musicals. Mm-hmm. With your clothes on. I'm like, I am a serious dramatic actress now. Yeah. I don't know if you knew, but I am an artist.

I still wanted that. And that involves nudity and ridiculous, ridiculous behavior. But you know what? That shit was important because. Well, I was going to ask you this, and this is leading into that. Please. Did Tish going to such a revered place? I mean, this is the spot to go.

Yeah. Did it make you a good actor? Did it actually make you a good actor? Or did it just sort of like, open you up to experiences you have relationships you know you met people best four years in my life okay for all reasons i think pushing i think tish is what you make of it i think if you are like i i sucked that school for every more soul i than i could i was in a million plays i made a million connections of friends that are still my dearest closest friends today started a theater

company in LA 18 years ago with all my best friends from Titch School of the Arts. We had Tish those on Broadway last year. So, awesome. But I am like a, like a, you know, I was very aware of like make the most of it. There were a lot of kids that didn't do plays or didn't audition for the plays. They just did the classes and learned other great things. Like I'm never going to say that an acting education is not something that you can use in a lot of different things and a lot of different.

Of course, because. Acting is about experience, you know, it's not just about delivering a line. And there's so many, yeah, confidence and exploration and and nudity. And so much nudity. So much nudity. But all that exploration was so important because I kind of got it done in college. And then like when I graduated, I wasn't, I didn't need to do, like, I was really ready for like professional life.

Like I felt like I sort of explored all those avenues where you're like an 18 to 20 year old artist thinking that you are going to change the world with four shitty downtown theater. Like that was an important part of like me failing, I think, or me figuring it out, you know. Yes, what you put into it. Like you said, like you went all in and you got a lot out of it. I got so much out of it. I loved it so, so, so much. My best friends are still from there.

Well, I love that you started a theater company. That's cool. You know, I've never done a play or been on stage doing a play or a musical in my life. Come do theater with us. Well, this is what I'm saying. So there's a part of me now that's almost turning 50 where I feel like I'm ready because I was so afraid of it. I love being in front of people. I love making people laugh.

You know, I can feed off of that energy. The thing that scared me the most was forgetting lines and completely looking like. like an asshole like that part to me was the most I was most afraid of but I've been talking to my agents even I'm like I know this is crazy but like I feel like I want to do a fucking play and I don't know what play it's the fucking best I want to try it fucking forget your lines because you've never done something that had a four week rehearsal no yeah by the time you get up there you are good to go your shit backwards and forwards and it's all about fucking around in the min in like the nuances and the mince throughout like it's you i think you would love it because you're

first of all the other most inspiring thing about theater is i went to greece this year for i was in greece too you were yeah in june mid-june it was a maze fucking amazing this was like sitting at the theater of dionysus 3,900 year old theater and you're just like this is stands the test of time yeah that shit people standing up in a live way telling stories and that is like yeah there's nothing I mean I don't think there's anything I think that is the sickest high

when you walk off a stage and you just it's the oh yeah yeah but also it's the thing about like you're so good at like control like you will be able to feed off of laughter and like all that stuff it's immediate like oh god I love that so much film in TV where I'm like

did it did somebody get mood like because you know you know in a theater you know when they have palm in their hand and people are listening and you get where you know when they've sat back you also know when they've fallen asleep know it all i love that stuff though this was such a blast it was so much fun and don't forget everybody the hunting wives is streaming on netflix if you haven't heard of this or seen it yet then uh you're way out of the loop you must check it out it's fun it's dangerous it's salacious it's sexy it's all of the things

so much for having me on this was so fun thank you for playing around this was the best bye bye bye bye I think she might be my new best friend she's so great her energy is so great and it's so funny because I've been watching the hunting wives and I had this idea of who she was and she's so done up and her hair is huge

and her makeup is thick and then she comes on I'm like oh shit very cool very cool very cool and then maybe you know what's fun about doing these fucking podcasts is that you never know of course who you're going to mean what kind of connection you're going to have let's just hypothetically say we do connect and she sends me a play and i audition or whatever I end up doing a play which is something that I've never done in my life and then let's just say I'm good in it.

And then let's just say it goes to Broadway and then let's just say I win a Tony. This all could happen, you guys. So I might win a Tony is what I'm trying to say.

There's a very good chance that I win a Tony. Anyway, I'm out. I gotta go. Bye. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching

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