Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Double your pleasure

Episode Date: January 22, 2024

Talk about next level Sibling Revelry. This week we chat with identical twins who married identical twins and live almost identical lives!Apparently, four ISN’T a crowd for Briana, Brittany, Josh, and Jeremy...they live in the same house, raise their kids together, and navigate being twin-laws. How does their DNA play into the extended family dynamic? Do their kids ever mistake mom and dad for aunt and uncle? Are their sons cousins or brothers?? Who made the first move and how did this foursome find their sibling groove?? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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we've actually won in Italy a couple of years ago. Anyway, it just made our trip feel extra special. So if you're heading out this month, consider hosting your home on Airbnb. With the co-host feature, you can hire someone local to help manage everything. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host.

I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians, artists, and activists to bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. The Moment is a space for the conversations

we've been having us father and daughter for years. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos on the I-Heart Radio app, podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Introducing IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. It grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned

and angry patients. You think you're finally like in the right hands. You're just not. Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story on the Iheart Radio app, Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.

And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling rivalry. No, no. Sibling rivalry. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling Revelry That's good

Oliver Hudson That is me I'm Oliver Hudson Today we have something I'm actually really excited About our guests today Because this is an insane story It's an insane story

And it's going to be one of the most insane podcasts Just a warning Trying to understand Who is who And who's talking is going to be difficult, but we're going to figure it out. Well, and Kate will tell you why.

Well, today we have Brittany and Brianna, Dian. We'll ask her to pronounce this. Dian. Salyers. And Josh and Jeremy Salliers, Saliers, we're going to ask them to

do this too, to pronounce their names. And they are twins, identical twins, married to identical twins. Interesting. Fascinating. I can't even wait to get into it. And this is going to be really fun. But we're going to have to... I don't know how we're going to do this. I think we have to say their names. I think I have to be like, oh, Britney, how did it feel? And you're going to be like, Brianna. And then I'm going to be like, Jeremy. Also, it's Brittany and Brianna and Josh and Jeremy. Like, even the names. What were their parents thinking? Let's just call them J-Bs. The Js and the Bs. You know? I mean... Now we have to separate them because we want to know their stories. Anyway, I can't wait to get into this.

No, I know, I know. And we'll talk about it. Yeah. We'll let them. Because it's so interesting because the girls. Their lives are parallel. This is what they wanted. They were looking to find this.

They wanted to marry a set of identical twins. I think that's what happens when sisters are like so close and they love each other so much, which I wouldn't know because I was only raised with all boys and brothers and boys. Everyone's going to be all cheery about this union. I'm going to get into the nitty gritty. is to like what the issues are. I want to know. I want to know.

Well, let's see first if they're willing to share. They're here. They're here. Let's bring them on. Oh, hey. This is so much fun. Oh, my gosh. We are so excited to be here.

Thanks for having us. Kate, we wore yellow for you. Yes. And I'll see you, but we got stopped when had to lose a guy in 10 days. came out and you were wearing your yellow from the cover. We got stopped everywhere we went. And people were like, your triplets, Kate Hudson. And we're like, we're going to meet her one day.

Oh, cute. Well, here we are. Maybe next time we will actually be in person, which would be even better. But it's so funny because I was just telling a story about how to lose a guy in 10 days. Because we put some lights on and then I started to get hot. She sweats a lot. And I sweat really easily. And so I started, of course, putting tissue under my armpits.

and then it reminded me of the scene and how to lose a guy in 10 days with Catherine Hahn when I take Matthew to therapy and I put the tissues under my arms which was an ad lib for me I just did that because I didn't want to ruin my outfit

and then it ended up in the movie and so that's what we're just talking about. Okay. So hold on I want to set this scene up for a second we got Brittany and Brianna or Brianna which one? Brianna and Brittany. Okay.

So let's set this up. Yeah, set it up, set it up. You are identical twins, Brittany, Brianna, Brianna or Brianna? Brianna. Brianna. And then how do you pronounce your last name? We're the Saliers twins. Saliers is our last name.

Saliers. So Brittany and Brianna, then you end up meeting and marrying Josh and Jeremy, who are also identical twins. That's it. So the stage has been set. Yes. So ladies, where are you from? Where were you born and raised? We were born in Florida, but we grew up primarily in Delaware. And do you have other siblings?

We do. So we're the oldest of four, and we have two little brothers. And they are not twins. They are not twins. Did you ever hear from your parents what it felt like when they knew that they were going to have identical twins? And did they know right away? You know, they were shocked. were shocked. They always thought it would be really cool to have identical twins, and they found out that we were coming. So they do not know what it's like to have only one child since we're

the oldest. And our dad was in the Navy. He flew in the Navy. And he had, like, the story goes that he had some, like, big test or something the next day. And our mom, like, calls and tells him the news. I'm not just, like, pregnant. I'm pregnant with twins. And he was like, oh, my gosh, He was up, you know, just like his world had just changed. And he, like, failed the exam. Like, the professor of the instructor. And they gave him another chance because they were like, oh, my gosh. They're like, this dude needs some.

Oh, really? They're like, he needs a day. They had some compassion, meaning like, holy shit, this guy's having twins. We need to retest him. Oh, that's so funny. Especially, like, did, and you, I mean, I don't know. The technology at the time, I'm sure they could tell they were identical as well, right? that you were yes they knew that they were having identical twins before we were

before we were born isn't that wild you know my one of my very very close friends just had identical twins then my friend ben shwerin oh swearing he had identical boys and he we welcome them to the twins and multiples family yay there are neighbors and we were like when when we all found out everyone was like holy shit and he was like in shock it took more than a day It took him, like, a couple months to recover from the fact that not only, then he started thinking about, which I'm sure is what happens, like, what happens if I don't know which one is which, and he'll be able to do it. I'm sure if there were some sort of tying a ribbon or string. I think that's a common thing for the early babies because, you know, they all look very similar. But, you know, I think it's possible that a lot of twins have been mixed up at that stage.

Sure. And, you know, just went along the rest of their lives as the other person. It's true. I have no doubt it's happening. Oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. It confirmed.

And so, okay, so Jeremy and Josh, where were you born and raised? We were born in Knoxville, Tennessee. And from there, we moved to several places. Our dad was in the Air Force. So we went from Tennessee to Alaska to New York, Arizona. Arizona, and then back to Tennessee after retirement. So both your parents were,

both your fathers were in the military. Yes. Wow. We also have two siblings. Only our two siblings are older. We have older brother and older sister. So it's probably a little bit worse for our dad when you got the news.

The third one is coming and now it's going to be a fourth. I'm sure that was traumatic. Well, that's how it's for me. When I think about it, you know, a lot of people thought maybe we would have twins, you know, twins married twins. Surely they're going to have a couple sets of twins. And, you know, that sounds awesome. But then once you have one and, you know, you've gone through that for a little bit,

I'm like, wow, we had four at once. That would just be, it would be a lot. That's, that is a lot. Now, now growing up, did you feel like, did you, when you were able to know that being an identical twin is a rarity, that it's a special thing. Did you feel that when you would see people, like people's reaction to you? Do you always feel that, whoa, you know,

quality of like walking through life with each other? You're like a celebrity at birth, basically, because people are like, oh, my God, look. You do. I think I know, I'm a feeling that you're talking about as far as like everybody kind of, oh, wow, look at this. Yeah, you feel that. It's kind of a full-time thing, yeah.

And you guys just decided to double up on that by marrying identical twins. Right. So it's now, it's just like more of what we, because people would ask us that, like, were you, aren't, were you worried about the stairs now for the rest of your life and you go out? And it is magnified now, but I, I, there was always something from when we were little, people would kind of like Oliver said, it's a, it's celebrity on a smaller scale, especially when you're identical twins, because people stare, people ask invasive questions that are just. you're used to. And people take pictures. Right. And so, yeah, that was, that was definitely going on when we were little. Oh, yeah. I feel like with being identical twins, I realized from a really young age that it could make you instantly popular. And it could also do the opposite and make you instantly an outcast. Can we rewind to people taking pictures? I need to

understand, like, someone just randomly will go up to you and be like, can I take a picture of you? Why are you in, why did you do a, like, a southern accent? I think it was just Tennessee. I think I just heard Tennessee, and I went right to, like, my Reese with her spelling. You know, I heard like, I heard like Knoxville, and then my accent just went like this. Yeah, I heard Russian. And I take a picture of you. I don't know. That's your Russian accent? I don't know. It was a mix of many.

No, I think that's what happened. I just clicked into Nashville. Um, so they just come up and they literally asked to take a picture and they just like, I wonder what they do with it. That's a great question. They're like, look, you're twins? They just, how do they show it to? Well, to be totally straight up, if I was out to lunch and I saw you guys having lunch together, the four of you and then like, you're like, kiss, you're kissing and I'd be like, holy shit, babe, look. Yeah, I definitely. Especially four of us when we go out and people stare and what like even taking pictures of the four of us together.

I understand that totally because it's unusual. You know, definitely don't see it very often. So it's understandable. No, it's right. Because like if you guys walk all like holding hands and like you guys are holding hands of your, you know, spouses, anyone would look and be like, am I going crazy? Is someone playing a joke on me? their mind. You don't, you don't be, they don't always verbalize it. Some people will

some people will ask, but some people you can tell, they wonder, but they just won't ask. Oh, you'll hear I'm talking about it and us and self, yeah. Right. You guys should, I must give you so much pleasure just because, you're just like, I would, I would go so far with this. Oh, you guys, you guys should fuck with everyone

and you guys hold hands and then you girls hold hands and just walk next. Just keep it real weird. Let me, let me ask question though because I guess there's a I don't know if it's a choice but obviously some identical twins will choose to sort of really be connected and coordinate clothes lifestyles everything and some want to rail against it and individuate you know did you guys to all you all you all did you guys have a moment where that was a decision or was it just you just grew into each other in the way

that you are a little bit of both I absolutely We absolutely went through stages where we hated being called the twins. We hated dressing alike. We just, it wasn't really resented it, but I think resented maybe how other people were about identical twins. So we absolutely have gone through stages where we did not dress alike. I hacked my hair off. Oh, gosh, it was so sad.

You did. We were going to be different. I hacked my hair off. Then I'm like, you know, then I'm that twin, you know. I frosted my tips at one point where you pull it with the hook to the internet thing and it didn't go well and I think it's a natural thing for probably most identical twins at some point in the life to kind of go through this struggle with that you know or like experimenting with it you know to see you know what it's like I think it gets pushed on you to have your own identity like oh you're you should have your own identity. Well, we do have our own identities. We each have our own individual identities, you know,

even though we're living together and, you know, we all are this one cohesive unit. We are individuals. But you choose to wear the same clothes. Is that always you every day? I agree. I don't think a clothes make you an individual. So we are no more or less identical twins if we're wearing the same thing

you're not wearing the same thing. And so I think we just kind of have fun with it. And I think a lot of people don't realize like Oliver and Kate. So like Brittany and I, we always got into fights when we were young about clothes. Because for example, we are getting ready to come meet you to today. And it was a big, you know, it's a big deal.

So what do we wear? Well, one of us, we would both want to wear the yellow dress. We would both want to wear it. And one of us would get to wear it and would win. That means someone else lost for the day. Right. And it caused problems. So it got to a point where it was like, let's just both wear the yellow dress. Both wear the yellow dress. Got it. And what about the, what about you guys? Like you're wearing the same Henley. Which is easier. Right. And it's just, I think it just makes it easier. Just getting ready if we're going out together or doing things together. Yeah. We never really argue about what we're going to wear. Neither one of us really care. And that's the problem sometimes.

Neither one of us would want to pick something. But a lot of times it just happens naturally where we'll get the same stuff without talking about it. But yeah, you know, if we're getting dressed, you know, to go somewhere. Yeah, it's usually we're going to wear the same thing. Usually the first one that goes into the closet. We'll grab the outfit for both for people and just let them lay it out. What if one of you's been like pumping iron and you're, you have all swole and the other one's like, I've just let myself go.

And you're like, dude, I cannot wear the muscle tea anymore. You know what I mean? Like, we would compromise. We would compromise for that. Yeah. The trick is to not let it get to that point. We have to stop before we get there. That's another kind of struggle, I guess, is this trying to, you know, you don't want

that to happen. You don't want one to live in the gym and the other one live on the couch. Yeah, that's an interesting question. actually. I mean, do you guys motivate each other and push each other? I'm not talking just with exercise, but just with health, with wellness, with mindfulness with all of us. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, we

that's one of the biggest... We have our interest, you know, so I think, you know, in each one of our research, he likes to do gardening and more about natural foods and stuff, so you know, he can provide things that the rest of us can't, so we can each kind of contribute as far as, like, health and

wellness or concern. Yeah, we definitely push each other to eat better, you know and things like that so on a very deep level to go along with that i think even subconsciously we don't want to be without the other we you know it's so i think we both want to stay healthy we all four want to stay healthy for each other you know right like the spouse protection factor that's a real thing you know when your people that are married tend to live longer because their spouse will push them to get checkups and and you know things like that but twins are live longer also, but they think it's because of that same factor, but it's just your twin,

you know, giving you that protection factor because they're looking out for you, basically. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place will stay in and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable somewhere with charm character and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps

them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians.

I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demortals? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith, but there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in. To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to the moment with Jorge Ramon,

San Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present. IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care.

Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands, and then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You both have this setup you have. Let's get into that a little bit because it's very enmeshed. I mean, there's a lot. I mean, you are very, not only are you both,

married to each other's siblings, identical, you know, twin siblings, but you live together. Mm-hmm. Your children are three months apart. Yes. And I want to understand in more depth, like how did, well, first of all, how did you meet? Yeah, yeah, because I read about it. And then we'll get into the living situation. I read about it.

The girls were like. Like, I would never want to live with Oliver. Let me just like, let's start with that. Like, it would drive me insane to live with Ollie and Aaron. I mean, I don't think so. so you'd have way more fun she'd be laughing all the time from morning until night and then then I cut years off your life because laughter and joy is actually I have plenty of laughter and joy in my life and I like and I like my I like my space and I like things to be clean

and I don't like so much stuff I don't have much stuff now you got rid of all your stuff yeah anyway this isn't about us okay I just I don't know if I could handle it. You'll be fine. But let's talk about how you guys met. No, well, and I just want to say that I love it. No, we will, but I love that, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I was, you know, obviously doing my research because I do research.

And you guys wanted this. This is something you wanted, right? You saw it out. We experienced relationships when we were growing up with singletons. And I guess, you know, through those experiences, we realized that if we were going to have marriage it had to be with twins and we knew that the two of us so it wasn't necessarily that we were

like going out in the world and actively seeking it you know but we knew that that was going to be the only way we always lived together, work together all through our whole life we so we heard about a twins festival and our mom

has mentioned it several times throughout our life that they have this twins festival in Ohio every year and I'm not sure what made us want to go finally check it out. But yeah, we went. And it wasn't the reason for going, wasn't we're going to go find a set of twins to date and all that. But it was in the back of our minds. We knew that the potential was there. Yeah. It would be a good place to find them. Okay. So describe, hold on, describe the moment when you saw them, who went up to whom? And then the whole decision-making

process is like, well, they look the same. But I'm kind of feeling. her. Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of factors that have to. Yeah. How did this work out? Give me the holes of rundown. We saw them on the first day of the festival. The first gathering we went to, we saw them from across this gymnasium

where everyone meets at the local high school. And so, you know, obviously we thought they were beautiful and wanted to talk to them, but there's so many people there. We could really find the opportunity then. And so me and him were just like, well, we're just going to go back to the hotel and hang out.

till the next thing and so apparently at that time the girls had already seen us but uh oh yes wasn't able to meet up so at that same time in the gym apparently they saw us so i'll let them to tell you about what was like for them so we're sitting in the gymnasium the orientation at this annual twins festival and we're sitting on the the bleachers looking down at the sea of twins There's just hundreds of sets of clones around. And I just all of a sudden spotted them. And I grabbed Brianna's wrist. And I was like, oh, my gosh.

And she immediately, her eyes went to them too. She was like, oh, my gosh, she didn't have to finish the thought. Right. Because I looked out. I knew exactly. I then see them too, Josh and Jeremy. And I know exactly what she's talking about, who she's talking about. But hold on.

Let me stop you real quick because usually you're looking at an individual. or two people who are different and you're almost a picking one, you're making an unconscious judgment immediately, but did you look at them as an entity so to speak in that moment? Yeah, that's what it's like. It is.

At the first, when we first spotted them in the sea of twins, so when you're you're spotting a set, you're spotting a set of twins. Right. So at first, I'd say yes. What an interesting way to think about that. Yes. Then when we got to

talk for the first time, which was the last day of the festival. Yeah, we, we didn't see them for the entire, uh, festival beyond that first day until the last night, there's just an after party that they have at this hotel nearby. And me and Josh went and I didn't see them there. And we're like, let's just go ahead and go back to the hotel. We'll pack up. We'll go home. We had to work the next day.

So we were, we were ready to go. So we were heading out of the hotel, uh, through the main lobby as the girls were coming into the hotel. So we were just the four of us, you know, alone in that spot. And we asked if we could get a picture with them, just hoping to get a picture at least. And then we started talking to each other. And we naturally split off in pairs at that time. You know, we're just kind of gravitated toward one another.

Wow. So it was a natural thing. And it just happened to be that they're the firstborn twins. And Brittany and I are the second born twins. Right. We're five minutes apart. They're also five minutes apart. Wow. So that's kind of beautiful in a way because it was almost this sort of unconscious sort of split off where it was like, oh, I think a lot of people wonder how that works.

Yeah, but yeah, it was the group, you know, the four of us talking and then it just broke into two conversations. So yeah, it's hard to say exactly what point in the conversation that happened, but. Right. And then it did happen. And I think that's the first time we're interacting and talking is it is that is happening. Then it's individual. Then it was definitely Jeremy and Brianna over here, Brittany and Josh over there. Yeah, right. And so then how did you exit that moment? Like, did that continue until like, oh, let's have a drink?

Let's continue this night. Or was it like, did you exchange numbers? Like, then what? Was your first date altogether? Like, what does this work? What's crazy is they have the same phone number. Yeah, that's right. So we got back, just want to see.

We drove back. got home and Josh sent Brittany a message on Facebook or something, I think, and saying that we couldn't wait to see them next year at the festival. And Brittany said, why wait until next year? And so me and Josh drove to Virginia from Tennessee, because they were living in Virginia. We were in Tennessee at the time. So it was like a seven-hour drive or so and drove out there and all four of us went on this double date together. And yeah, it was. Isn't that awesome when, like, guys will just, like, drive? They'll just do it.

They'll get in the car and drive to see you and, like, make it happen all those hours. Who made the first move first? Who, like, kissed who first? Josh did. Maybe by, like, an hour, right? I remember that. This sounds funny because this, we wouldn't do it like this when we were dating singletons, but, like, all four of us kind of, like, pile on to, you know, we went to Twin Lakes

first. Well, we went to Twin Lakes, but I'm saying, like, we got to the point of, like, the first kiss. or like holding hands for the first time. So our first movie, all four of us are kind of there together, like watching our first movie, if I remember correctly, right, guys? Right. And then it's like, then we're going off, like, each couple. But like the actual date and everything was together.

But we found out that Josh did kiss Brittany and then Jeremy did kiss me. And so we beat them to it by just a little bit. We always think that Jeremy and I was joke like, well, we were born first. And so the. So they kissed first. That is so cute. So real quick, I want to go back. Singleton, is this what I am?

Yeah, that's what you guys are. I believe it still says it on your birth certificate under what your birth is categorized, a singleton or twin. Oh, wow. I always thought I was just a simpleton. Not derogatory. Well, you are that. You are that too.

Wow, I just learned something. I'm a singleton. That's cool. Others and sisters. Got to love it. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in, and how to make it feel. like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm, character, and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel

like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians.

I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoral? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith, but there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in. To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to the moment with Jorge

Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present. IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care.

Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands, and then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm trying to figure out, like, how do you walk through life being so? It would be like, you know, what happens when one couple gets in a fight and like, or like, was there? a moment where maybe

one couple was feeling it more in the beginning than another couple and then like did someone want to get married earlier than the other? Like how does this all like how do you? Right because timing almost has to work out perfectly. Yeah. Oh, I want to get married. Are you

asking, are you going to ask her to marry you? Like yeah, yeah. Well, I'm going to do it too. Like, okay. You know, or I'm not ready yet. You know, I mean, these are real human questions that have to sink up. We knew that we were going to get married to them when we first met them. We actually told our mom that when we got back from that trip.

Yeah, we said that to each other on the way home, told our mother that we found these twins, and we were going to get married to them eventually. Yeah, then it was just about getting them to want to marry us after that. So that was the plan. Was there ever any reservations between any of you guys, meaning like, oh, God, I know you're, And it was just so synergetic, synergetic, like, synergetic?

Yeah, it just, there wasn't, I just, I don't recall having any kind of doubts. No, the stars, it was just, the stars just aligned perfectly. I mean, and the timing aligned, as you said, perfectly for all four of us. Because, right, a lot of things do have to align, right? We all four have to be single, right? No one can be married, obviously. We all have to want the same things and be ready. And thank heavens, we were all on the same page.

Right. So did you get married together? Yeah. Yeah. So we did a double proposal. So for the proposal, it was at Twin Lakes State Park where we had our first date. And we told the girls that they were doing a commercial for the wedding venue that they had there. So they had to wear like a gown or something they were wearing to a wedding.

And we wore a suit. And so we had Inside Edition was there to film it. And they filmed a couple of fake scenes of us at the park. And then when we got to this pavilion, that we laid out some rose petals. And both of us dropped one knee at the same time, asked at the same time. And they said yes at the same time.

Same thing. Same ring? Same ring. Yeah. Custom ring. Yeah. Same ring. Double infinities.

You can tell, yeah. It's both two infinities intertwined. Oh, cool. Oh, we got married six months after that. at the festival where we met. Yeah. In the town square in front of all the other twins. Yeah, it was awesome.

We had a twin processional. This feels like, 19 sets. Wow. Aren't there moments, like, even just hearing this, like, and I say this in the most loving way, where you're like, I'm feeling like there's too much twinning happening. Like, no, you have moments where you're like, I don't, I want something to be mine, like, alone, you know,

outside of this, outside of the foursome. Because, you know, you also work together, correct? Yes. I'd say we went through that a bit before we met them. So we went through fighting with each other. Usually it was over guys. We didn't like each other's boyfriends or. Right. To be clear, we didn't fight because we wanted the same guy.

We fought because we didn't like, we didn't like who they were dating or there was some weird just, yeah. Right. And part of it was that we were scared that the other one was going to ruin the twin dream for the two of us, right? You're getting too serious. Now you'll blow our shot at finding, you know, identical twins

that can really happen. And to go back and forth with, you know, whoever it was, like, well, you're going to ruin it. And so we did a lot of fighting before we met them. We actually get along better now. That Gary True. It also made our relationship stronger. The two of us, you know, we

fought growing up and stuff too, like everybody, I guess. But, yeah, since we met, I think, you Yeah, it's just better for all of us. I think all of us are better twins now. Yeah, well, I guess also you have someone who really truly understands what your entire childhood was like. And also, I mean, I would assume that the connection, it's almost like, yeah, I might, I might, you know, I might not get this right. But yeah, I might destroy this metaphor.

Yeah. We're keeping this in no matter what, just so you know. Well, it's like, let me put it this way. It's like, don't change it. I won't. Okay. When you have a child as a singleton and you have a child and you're married, once you have that child, it's like you'll never love anything more than that child. And if that relationship doesn't work and you end up in another relationship, that person has to know that there's nothing that will ever come in between me and my son or my daughter.

and I would think that when you come into the world with a twin and especially an identical twin that connection that you basically came into the world with that and if anything and anyone knows like your first and foremost like it's different for me with Oliver like a man would come before Oliver but then you're saying you were my identical twin and we had that like depth of connection we came in the world together and we did oh I mean so you're saying that identical twins have better

like deeper, more meaningful relationships than that thing. Singleton siblings. I think maybe that, well, it's more like there's a depth of like an identity, like an understanding, a really deep understanding. You go through everything together at this, you know, you go to school together,

you're in the same grade together, you're going through puberty together. Like everything you're doing is together. And then it's like if some random guy or girl comes in and then kind of fucks with that relationship, then it's problematic for the one thing that matters to you most, which is your sibling. Yeah.

Your identical twin. Very well said. I very well said. I think that is absolutely right. And we've tried to kind of explain that to people who have the question. It's when we all became parents, of course, it was new and everything. But I don't think we were new to the feeling that you just described. That is a feeling we have always had.

Right. that you love this person and also I think I was more probably more careful and safe like my whole life. You know, some people become parents and they stop, I don't know, going skydiving and things. But we always had that because I had to live for my twin and vice versa. And Josh and Jeremy understand that and have that with each other. That's right. It's like it's like when you guys are going through something as sisters,

I'm sure they give, I would assume that they have a deep understanding of the kind of space that you need to work out whatever it is that you're going through. Yeah, if there's ever any arguments between, like, me and him are arguing or they're arguing, we know, to basically just kind of stay out of it, more or less. It will work itself out, you know, on its own. You don't need to get involved in that, you know? Yeah. Right. The twins and normally have a good way to do that. I think good way to like make up after fighting and things like that.

Yeah. Normally you just carry on about your business and don't really say anything else about it. Yeah. Do you live in the same house? Yeah. Yeah. Which is also our business. We have a way that we run together and we live on site here.

Oh, cool. Oh, I see. Oh, cool. Who is the better bedroom? They're pretty equal. They're pretty equal. They're almost identical. But I think there's.

is a little bit bigger. I think you guys have the bigger one. I think they got the big... Jeremy, you're so right. I think they did. But what about the bathroom? We have our own bathroom. They have a better bathroom also.

They do. Come on. You guys have to admit that. They have a better bathroom. We have the bigger bathroom. I don't know if it's better. But yes, we are fortunate in that we lived on site at this huge property. So we know that's, you know, we can share the ballroom.

You know what I mean? There is space. They're not right on top of each other. Right. And I think that is helpful and important. We do get, although it's like this huge mansion and we'll all be like, you'll find it's like all these rooms, all these rooms to go in and we'll all be kind of like right here in one little space half the time.

And how many kids do you have just the one each? Yeah. Each couple has one little boy and we raised them together. And I wanted to say, so I had heard Kate Oliver that you had mentioned that like, you maybe have different parenting styles and that you kind of take turns being like the fun uncle or whatever and then there's like the you know aunt kate and i thought that was so interesting because it made me think i'm like that with our other nieces and nephews but with brittney and josh's child i'm not looking to be the fun aunt i'm looking i'm another parent yes and so it's like a different feeling we're raising the babies together so both are our just genetic children you know that yeah they're they're genetically more they're genetically more brothers than they are cousins right wow that's right their DNA is like the same right so wait so they have two moms and two dads basically yeah genetically I smell a sitcom

son Jed has dark hair like us. So it's like one of the one of them and one of them. I mean, they're basically going to be their brothers. I mean, they're literally. So how? And we raised them as brothers.

When they refer to each other, they say, you know, my brother. Do they call you both mom and both dad? It's mommy and mommy and daddy and dodo. So like, Ami is for aunt mom.

Right. Mommy and Omi. Got it. So do they, do they, how old are they by the way? So hours just barely turned three And theirs is about to turn three

So they're little So as far as biology goes They don't They think of this as one big happy unit Rather than like That is my mother And that is my Amma

Sometimes they'll say Two daddies or two mommies They'll acknowledge it On their own Oh my God, I know As long as everyone's on the same page Imagine if everyone was not on the same page There'd be complete chaos

that's true yeah you have to kind of all be really have like me like mommy mommy meetings like you guys have to all like sit down especially as they get older because look they're both going to have very they're going to be very different even though they're well or maybe not maybe not but it's going to be interesting like so interesting it's not we have a lot of examples of it either I mean yeah yeah we don't we don't have anything to look at so yeah that seems like a good way to do it because I mean let's project yourself into the future a little bit

you've got like a preteen they're starting to act out a little bit they're a little stinky and rough and crazy let's just say maybe they won't be we'll see but like who's gonna be the disciplinarian the more like tough mom

hmm we're going to have to be honest because they can't parent shop that's going to be We don't allow parent shopping. So I'd say maybe Brianna would maybe be naturally ever so slightly more strict. But like in a Mary Poppin strict way. Right. Maybe I would be a touch more laid back.

But I think it's pretty even. And we will make sure we're on the same page. So there's no parent shopping. Parent shopping meaning like, oh, you give me the better. Like you go ask the other one. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I like parent.

I've never heard that term before. Yeah. I've never heard it either. I love that term for which grown up is going to give you the best answer I think that's almost

just a primal thing that happened from when we've early marriages around I mean it's like oh dad said no all of a sudden

you know I'll hear wild and be like hey mom can I'm like I'm like I just said no you know Ronnie does that all the time

but Ronnie does that more Ronnie goes in for the drama she comes up to me crying oh daddy said I can't can't have this like she goes in right away it's not even a mask so is there any is there first of all staying with the kids for a second you know is there any do they not sometimes know who's who or are we it's just innate instinctual they get it uh there's definitely

occasions they have they have been tricked before they have right which is really funny but they usually know um if they're tired or like they see one of us from the side they'll get confused but they usually know who's Ami who's mommy who's daddy who's Doda

and so they get so stunned with themselves there's a few times when they have mixed us up it's like they think it's so funny and they realize like I thought you were

so I have a traumatic experience I'm going to share with you my mom was doing this movie called Protocol and she had these sort of doubles and this And the double, they look, they dress her and look exactly like her.

You know what I mean? And I remember, because I was little, and I remember going up to my mother and having some sort of an emotional situation. And I, like, grabbed her, like, Mom. And this woman who looked just like my mom from behind, like, turned towards me and looked down. He's like, yeah, or whatever, you know. She didn't sound like that. I don't know where that. It was a man.

No, but I remember that moment because it was like shocking to me. You know what I mean? That I was sort of emoting to this person who then turned out not to be my mother. I still have trauma. But Oliver gets trauma easily. I do. It just sort of, anything seems to be a traumatic experience. So I.

I haven't happened to you. That would be shocking. Do you guys, is there any pressure to, to always be together, you know what I mean? Like if you guys, look, life is long and relationships can be difficult. I know that you guys say relationships aren't work or shouldn't be work for you guys, you know?

Right. You know, which is an interesting way to think about it. Like, I think relationships do take work, but not in a bad way. They do. I guess it's not fair to say that they don't take any work, but it shouldn't be, I mean, it's not miserable work

you know what I mean it is work of course yeah but it's you know it's happy work right right no it's good the other piece is that we had look we didn't meet to we were all already

we already hit 30 when we all met we had all been dating singletons you know and so we had been through relationships where the twin thing was was work it was such work because I always felt pressure honestly it wasn't pressure to like

be together it was like pressure to not be with brittany because maybe i was dating someone and some were understanding but like maybe they didn't like that that was my other half and so then i almost felt like i had to sort of like not pretend but like appease them in the relationship so i would feel like i couldn't be with my twin as much because i needed to like be with them because they needed their so that they felt like they were a priority for you yes and it was such a And so now it's like easier. So I just, just as a side note, when you guys say singleton, I feel less than. It makes me feel like subhuman.

Like when you're like, and you're like, and you're like, oh my God, like I feel. That's why you're an outcast. Yeah, I feel like I feel like an outcast. I feel bad about myself. Oh, hey, well, we mean it in the nicest way possible. a non-twin a non-twin regular humanoid

no I like a single there's a word here that I want to I want to like get to them out of them so just getting back to that like do you feel pressure to always be together meaning if one of you guys as a couple it's like oh my god it's not working I'm not saying that would ever happen but again

relationships are funny I guess if I think about that happening I would imagine that yes you would feel pressure to work it out if you were having any kind of doubts otherwise you would definitely I would imagine I would feel pressure to work harder I guess

I think we feel pressure to get the other two back together yeah yeah exactly the other two would get we would parent trap ourselves and get the other two back together so I yeah I mean we are two different marriages if nothing's ever going to happen with with Brian and Jeremy but Josh

and I would stay together and we would get them back together and invite you guys it would be your best do you guys talk shit about it do you guys talk shit about each other like i'm saying do the girls get together and like this fucking guys god damn it i'm sure so once in a while we can get together and yeah i mean once in a while right it's like gosh and we're kind of like on the same team and we know it's the same for them we hear you guys in the garage once in a while when you're working on your jeeps guys And then, like, the couples, like, if Brian has been awful that day or something, and I'll get in bed with Josh and be like, gosh, she's such an, uh, you know, and then vice versa.

And he won't get too involved. Like, he'll be quietly supportive, but right. Doesn't get too much. But, and then, like, there's this other third dynamic going on with, like, we call it your twin law, your twin-in-law, you know, like your, then that is like another, like, oh, yes. That's crazy. Where, like, they, we both, so Josh and I both know exactly what it's like to have Jeremy as a partner yeah yeah yeah right yeah so like i mean shit talking that's a little harsh

but but to your point there is that understanding that you always have someone you can go to who will understand if you're struggling in a relationship with anyone else in the house yeah but are you ever in bed like talking candidly about sort of the other couple just as you do as a married couple and then be like and be like hey babe don't don't say anything we just not say anything we just not say anything you know what I mean yeah yeah yeah sure there's some of that yeah yeah all all the honest discussion you know we'll call it good honest discussions about stuff I know yeah yeah and it's helpful you know I actually thought that to be one of the best things about our relationship in the beginning was finding someone that was understanding about

those aspects of my life you know if I wanted to say something about him to her you know know, and she would understand that she also has a twin. And it seems like the first-born twins and the second-born twins, they do each have their own tendencies. So there are some differences. So we can understand, you know, the things that we don't like about them. That makes. Thank you, dear.

Don't they say. I love those things, but. Aren't there some statistics about this? Like, the first, like, how does that work? Like, there was something like one, there's always one twin. that takes more nutrients I mean from interesting

that's that that's definitely possible I would imagine that probably the first born twin probably does and then they get you get more of the sort of good bacteria the first twin usually gets coming out

more of the good bacteria like there's there's something and then and then I mean there's some statistics with this with the first and second that are just like fascinating do you guys think like you're more handsome than the other like who do you

you like, are you know what I mean? Are you like, I'm better looking? No, we all think the other is like better looking. But here's the thing, we absolutely all despise when other people say one of you is the pretty, oh, who's the prettier twin? Oh, who's the more handsome twin? Oh, who's the stronger twin? Hate it.

Hate it. Yeah. That's so weird. We absolutely, it's very, um, yeah, it's just, it's awful. So that always made us resent that person. Like if they thought they were getting close with like, oh, I'm going to compliment her. You're the whatever twin.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Do that it would make me the opposite. Totally. It's obnoxious. But I do, I think that secretly you guys are like, one of you is like, I think I'm a little better looking, like that you'll never reveal or say. Like I, like I know I'm better looking than Kate, but I just say it. And that's why I couldn't be a good twin because I wouldn't be the best looking.

I think you are better looking. You're definitely, Oliver definitely has the best. look he needs that kind of confidence he needs to know it's all i have he needs to know how handsome he is because it makes him feel better about everything else and maybe when we're 100 years old we'll finally admit that some somebody will say yeah i always thought out of our father always said one of the things i remember one of the few things i remember about our father and what he said was all over he goes how's i remember one time i ran into him in a supermarket he goes how's Ollie still handsome and charming

and I thought oh that's Oliver's core issue is that dad always just said well if all else fails you're handsome and charming and then you got that so that's all he's ever leaned on yeah

he's an affirmation person I'm a physical touch person he is a physical touch big time when you give him the compliment I do I go like this I'm like oh She does. Hey, what are you? I'm a quality time and words of affirmation.

And Gifts. No, I'm really not. That's my last one. No, Gifts is not what shows love. I like acts of service. Are you guys the same? Yeah. We're both words of affirmation and physical touch and followed by house of service.

Josh and Jeremy, where do you guys? I would say my top is quality time. It is? At least from those online. tests I took. Really? Yeah. I would agree.

Quality time is probably the most important thing. Yeah. As far as love languages go, you know. Physical touch, words of affirmation, then quality time. I like them all. None of us are gifts. None of us are guests. You guys are good at acts of service, though.

Like, you guys are very helpful. Like, you guys... I think that's my expression. Yeah. That's how I express it. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's very male. Oh, Aaron, my wife is acts of service.

It's like... Well, that's good. It's crazy. If I do the dishes, she gets horny. Oh, so she likes her team and I like, okay. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, if I start doing things around the house and cleaning, like, you know, it's going to be a good night. And I definitely don't get horny when Danny's doing the dishes.

It gets horny when she gets a gift. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school. New projects are just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place will stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm, character, and a little local flavor.

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yeah they made an actual term for twins married twins yeah I refer to as quaternary marriage quaternary marriage and so me be very clear that it's one of the set of twin married to one of the other set of twins so like two monogamous marriages right that's a quaternary marriage

and this is where there's only 300 right 300 in the world 300 quaginary marriages Out of 8 billion people Well I learned something new today I've never known that word I've never known that And I've never known a singleton either

I know What are some misconceptions That the public might Think about this relationship Probably I think a lot of people wonder With us being separate In our relationships

Not just for people in one relationship If that makes sense. I think that people like to think that. What? That it's like polyamorous that you guys are just like. I was going to guess that. Like, hey, you're like, why I'm swap? Yeah.

Now you're. I want to say the comments on everything. Yeah. It's constant that. Do you guys swap? Have you guys ever like mistakenly, you know, slacked with the other. Right.

That kind of thing. Also the codependency thing that people think maybe that we are too dependent on each other that we couldn't survive without one another, I guess. Yeah. That it's unhealthy to be so dependent on each other. How do you feel about that? I don't think that we are dependent on one another. Right.

We've chosen this lifestyle together. You know, it's not that I wouldn't be able to function without it. It's just something that that's what. makes us happy so right and co-parenting and co-habitating like this is has a lot of benefits you know yeah we i mean look we i mean i hate we live very close to each other i have to say there was a time when our kids were little that we spent i mean it was really i mean we really spent so much time helping each other you especially for me you know yeah no i know it's the best it is it's great and by the way there's no fucking there's no right way to do anything

You know, if you're happy and you're not hurting anyone and everyone's healthy and growing up, you know, in the way that they should and the way that you guys want to do it. We made it easier. Our lives are much easier together than it would be super separated because we want to see each other a lot, of course, and we want our kids to see each other. So we would just be in one another's houses like you guys were. So it just makes more sense to just be together. So great.

I think like if we, I totally agree. I think that like if we got, you know, to age 80 and I was. sitting there as an 80-year-old looking back at my life, I think I would feel a sense of such regret to have squandered this amazing rare gift. She's almost always a gift, not, you know, not always. But overall, it's such a rare gift. And so I think that there's something to sort of appreciating that and not squandering even a single day.

And I think we'll get to the, you know, to 80 and look at each other and we'll feel like, at least there's that. I love that. It's a great ending. I love you guys. You guys are awesome. You really are. You guys are cool.

So we usually end the podcast with our question, which is, what is one thing that you would love to emulate about your sister? And then what is one thing that you wish you could alleviate from her to make, sort of optimize her life? And then the same question for you guys. This is awesome, actually, with the... See? That was good, Kay.

I knew. I just didn't want to ask what their first kiss was. And say your name before... Say your name and you're talking about so that people can know who's talking. Okay. I'm Brianna. And if I had to choose something that I especially admire about Brittany, that I just sort of also exhibit myself. I think she has always been, even though I was first

born, she is usually first socially. And so she'll kind of lead like that. She's very glamorous. Like I noticed that, yeah, I think that she was like the first to like, I don't know, get us into like makeup when we were teenagers and that kind of a thing. And so, I would say that kind of like you leading socially is something that I, yeah, that I think I would attribute to you. And then what would you alleviate a stressor or some sort of situation in her life that would make it better? And don't say her husband.

Yeah, in this situation, for sure. maybe like the stress of like the world and like there's a lot of we both sense like we both because we're attorneys like I know you have a really strong sense of like justice and this is if we can't you know we can't get that for people and so you'll you'll like have the weight of like the whole justice system on your shoulders I feel like sometimes so I would take that away if I could. Great. I think that I would, I'm Brittany, and I think that I would like Brianna's strength. The name Brianna actually means strong.

And I think that overall, even though I could always beat her in chin-ups, I think overall, just emotionally, she is stronger. And I've always felt that. And so I would, I would like that for myself because I admire that in Brianna. And then as far as taking away stress, we've dealt with some very stressful things with sociopaths and that situation. But I would just, I would take away, I would take away also maybe some phobias, like just some fear so that we could just relax about. bit more. I appreciate that. I love it.

There's so much closer than we are. I know. Because they're so close as well. No, you guys, it's a different, it's a different thing. It's a different kind of closeness. We have other siblings too and we're very close with them and it feels like we have a brother. He's just a year older than us and we love them just as much as. Different dynamic, but siblings are so special no matter what.

So you're saying this is on us. So we could be, we need to work at it harder, is that? I think that you just might not realize it, but we can see it, we can see it. So we could be, we need to work at it harder, is that? Yeah, you still realize. I agree. I think that you just might not realize it, but we can see it. We can see it.

Oh, yeah. But your other siblings think that you guys love each other the most, for sure. they feel very loves because they are babies but just a different dynamic identical twin it's just a different yeah yeah okay guys what what are your answers to this luscious question I'm Jeremy and if there's something that I would emulate of Josh it would be probably as temperament I think that I'm a little more like hot-headed or all react more uh or more just faster to react or more aggressive in my reaction i guess so yeah i haven't having a more even temperament i think that i would like to emulate that and something that i

could take from him would be maybe uh i think we both share this shyness and social awkwardness in that we're self-conscious maybe i don't know what it what it is but i think if i could take away his social anxiety that i would do that because it's a lot more fun in life if you can just be you know open and relaxed when you're talking to people yeah great well i think that um he does a good job of uh kind of keeping things in order like all of our you know finances and things like that and you know there's bills all over the place and things like that um i think he does a good job keeping up with all that making sure that's kept up with i think i would like to emulate that more um and i guess rather than maybe taking something away

maybe give give a little bit more patience i think would affect temperament you know so Yeah. It's kind of taking way giving, I don't know, call it whatever you want. Taking wishes. I love it. So basically you're nuts. You lose your mind. You're the wild one.

He flies off the handle. This has been wonderful. Thank you for joining us. And sharing with us, this is such an amazing story. And, you know, this has been so much fun. Thank you, guys. Appreciate it, y'all. We appreciate you both so much.

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