Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Dr. Joe Dispenza

Episode Date: May 13, 2020

Dr Joe Dispenza is a neuroscientist, international lecturer, researcher, and author whose work teaches people how they can rewire their brains and recondition their bodies to make lasting changes. He joins Kate and Oliver on "Sibling Revelry" to share how people can create more fulfilled and happy lives, cure themselves of illnesses, and even stay sane during quarantine.Executive Producers: Kate Hudson, Oliver Hudson, and Sim SarnaProduced by Allison BresnickEditor: Josh WindischMusic by Mark HudsonThis show is brought to you by Cloud10 and powered by Simplecast.This episode is sponsored by Sakara.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ollie, this was so. interesting. I love this episode. This was an exciting one for not only myself, but for Aaron and everyone in my life because Joe Dispenza is a force. Dr. Joe Dispenza, we recorded this at the beginning of the quarantine. You know, what he told us has been really helpful in staying sane. Oh, yeah. I've honestly been using some of his sort of techniques. Aaron, once we recorded it, she put the book, his book on my bedside, so I actually started reading it. for the first time. Which book? He's got multiple books. Yeah, it was, uh, you are the placebo becoming supernatural. That's the one mom's reading. The mom loves that one. I know. Breaking the

habit of being yourself. That's it. I'm currently breaking the habit of being myself. Okay. I'm doing right. I'm currently realizing that I am the placebo. Yes, this is great. Then the three of us can get together and become a superhuman. Our whole family's reading different Joe Dispenza books. It was really interesting and honestly inspiring. He's a neuroscientist, a researcher, a lecturer, whose work really revolves around how we can rewire our brains. Yeah.

The power of the mind, you know, manifesting, changing the way you think can change your health. and you know it's it's kind of the therapy that we've been in for the last however many years as well I mean it's similar to that you know how thought can change can change the way you feel and think and emote yeah I mean our thought patterns also how programmed they are you know and trying to sort of understand them and break them down and even just you know he we didn't get into it because he talks about it a lot and other things so I would if anybody really wants to to know how Dr. Dispenza became passionate about what he, what he does, it really started from him having an accident. And during that accident, his healing process, and the entire experience that

he went through, the choices he made, how they basically ended up informing his future work. And it's so fascinating because it's all about how powerful are. mind is and how we can heal ourselves. Granted, I think he's clearly a very practical man. He talks about that we are all different. You have to listen to yourself. That's the whole point, you know? But yeah, I mean, our brains, it's just wild how powerful they are. And he does a lot of workshops that teach people how to really start to tap into that. Well, he's a neuroscientist, too. So it's Not that he didn't just, there's science behind all of this as well, you know. Anyway, this was a very informative, exciting episode.

And by the way, I just say, especially now, you know, in the times that we are living in, I've been using sort of these ideas, and I wouldn't really call them techniques, but just that mind-body experience, because anxiety is high, and in the last week or so, I've been going through some shit just feeling anxious and i've been having to sort of center myself a little bit more yeah yeah i'm just tired of the every day the monotony is finally getting to me it's about i'm trying to live in the moment but every moment is exactly the same so it's like a strange you know parallel universe in a strange in a way but yeah i think people are going to start getting antsy and you know real change happens when things get uncomfortable um so it'll be

interesting to see, because it has been a while now, what started happening. I think if you really stick with it and get through it, there will be a transformative experience, you know, instead of getting restless and careless. Yes, yes. Yeah, so please enjoy this episode with Dr. Joe Despenza. Enjoy. You love it. First of all, I want to say thank you for joining us. All right, you're welcome. I'm a big fan of your work. I just finished, you are the placebo. I think we should just jump right in. We are literally facing not only something that is very scary for a lot of people, but I think is probably causing an enormous amount of anxiety. And so much of your work is about manifestation and how we

heal our bodies and how powerful our mind is. And I guess immediately, I just want to say, How do you talk to people when right now there is so much fear that they're facing? So in order to actually kind of switch your brain power, it seems almost impossible right now for a lot of people. How to change your mind? Well, I mean, listen, living in fear is living in survival. And in survival, you're activating a primitive nervous system, the fight or flight nervous system, a branch of the autonomic nervous system. and you're mobilizing enormous amounts of energy for some threat perceived as real or imagined in your outer environment. And you aroused the body with this rush of energy.

And you are taking most of the energy that you use for your immune system for growth and repair for long time building projects. And if you keep that one alarm system on all the time, there's no energy in your inner environment for, for, restoration and repair so the immune system dials down and people who live in fear are more susceptible to infections because their immune system is compromised and we've done research uh we took a large group of people 120 people and we did functional brain scans on them and we put them through four days of training and we asked them to trade fear and anger and resentment and in patience for an elevated emotion, a heartfelt emotion, gratitude, thankfulness, appreciation, a love for life, a joy for existence. And all we wanted them to do was cultivate these elevated emotions for 10 minutes a day,

three times a day. And we measured also there are stress hormones called cortisol before they went into this study. And we measured a chemical called immunoglobulin A or IGA. It's your body's primary defense against bacteria and viruses. It's your body's natural flu shot. In fact, it's better than any flu shot. And we allowed people to open their hearts just for 10 minutes, three times a day. At the end of four days, we took those same measurements again. And aside from significant changes in their brain, their immune system, their immunoglobian levels went up 50%. They created their own pharmacy of anti-infectious chemicals. And when you open your heart, you activate your immune system in a very powerful way.

So people who understand that T cells in their body, knowledge and information really allows people to really start to question what is true and what isn't. And your body's fighting viruses right now. And those T cells that your thymus gland mates in right in your heart center, they have little trumpets on the end of them, T cell receptors that attack viruses and bacteria. And when those T cells are active, there's not a chance for people to become sick. So then if fear can weaken the organism

because it's responding in emergency all the time, then when a person starts feeling gratitude and kindness and care, Their body is so objective that it doesn't know the difference between the outer event that's creating the elevated emotion or the emotion they're creating by thought alone. And if the environment signals the gene, and that's epigenetics, and the end product of an experience and the environment is an emotion, that person's signaling genes ahead of the environment. And they're making antibodies. And those antibodies actually fight infections. So people just need the proper knowledge and the proper information so they can begin to see that there's an. intelligence in their body that does healing.

And the bigger question is, why do certain people get the virus and other people don't? It's a big question. Well, it's because there's an inner order and people have to understand how to self-regulate and make those changes. Okay, so I'm going to, I'm done. I'm going to go meditate right now and find love in my life at this moment. That was beautiful. I mean, it makes so much sense.

And you're saying there's science behind us. No, no, science is the contemporary language of mysticism. It's science now that's demystifying the mystical. And if you can combine quantum physics with neuroscience and neuroplasticity and psycho-neuroimmunology, the mind-body connection, and epigenetics, all of those new sciences point the finger at possibility. And you start asking the bigger fundamental question. Well, you understand then if stress weakens the organism.

And there's three types of stress, physical stress, trauma, accidents, injuries, chemical stress, like diabetes or blood sugar levels or toxins in the environment and emotional stress. And that's just about everything that people respond to in their environment. All of those things knock the brain and body out of balance. And people who are out of balance tend to be more prone to disease because the body's not in the proper state of homeostasis. And health and repair happens in homeostasis. And most people, when they feel fear, when they feel anger, when they feel sadness and pain, they don't think that they have any control over those emotions. And the research says you absolutely can change those emotional states.

And when you do, you start seeing the side effect called people getting happier. It's the their body is being freed from the past. And emotions are a record of the past. So people start transforming themselves, their lives and their body's transforming. for. Dr. Joe, my children are causing me massive imbalance right now. I need help. Any advice for those of us who have three children, young children in the house, who, you know, even when you're trying to sort of have these wonderful, kind of peaceful moments,

it's just absolute mayhem. Right. Before you answer the question, though, I just want to give my side. of things with my kids, which is the opposite. Okay. Because, yes, they have to do school. Of course, they have to do their homework and this. But I'm like, you guys, we're in quarantine. All right, let's get it done. But I'm going to have no stress right now for all of us. Like, let's just ride this out, do the best that we can. Yes, Wilder, you're going through puberty, and I'll deal with that shit. But for the most part, hey, let's just roll with it. That's, we have different ideas. Right. Well, I always say parenting is the fast track to enlightenment. I have three children that are all older now. But I think that there are certain things because children have mirror neurons. And mirror neurons are what are called empathy neurons. They model behavior. In fact, when a lioness is teaching her cubs how to hunt, when the cubs are observing her hunting, they turn on the same circuits in their brain as if they were actually hunting. So they're priming their brain.

the brain circuitry by observation. And so children have mirror neurons and they emulate or they model behavior. So it's not so important what you say to them. What's more important is how you say it to them. And they're going to imitate and model your behavior. So Terrible Toos is a great example. You know, your kid's cute and young and they turn one year old and all of a sudden they got wheels and they're running around the house and they're picking up the vase and turning it over

and they're knocking things over and they're eating detergent and, at the sink and you're yelling, no, no, no, no for a whole year. And they turn two years old and you say, put your shoes on. And they say, no, because that's where they're actually emulating behaviors. So we have to teach children. One of the most important things is to teach them by demonstration how to be. And that requires being present with them and finding a way to communicate with them so that it makes sense to them. and so never ever ever try to reason with your children when they're emotional because no new

information can enter their nervous system that isn't equal to the emotional state they're in they're not going to hear it it's not going to land for them teach them how to change their emotional state whether it's getting the jump on a trampoline teaching them not when they're emotional but at other times maybe before they go to bed how to open their heart and say now now we've been practicing all that heart opening for this time right here. This is the time. I know it's hard. I know it doesn't feel natural.

But if you can do this now and change your emotional state, wow, imagine who you be when you get older. So we're spending more time with our children because people are confined to the same space. But there are ways to communicate with children that are so effective in helping them understand there are times to play there are times to work there are times to do certain things and there's times to do things that you don't like to do that you have to do anyway and it's all okay so i think i think uh more people in a closed environment of course gets a little bit more intense but um but i do think that when we work with children if we teach them how to change

their emotional states i think uh we can make some big changes and demonstrate now does that does that go with adults, too, where you shouldn't reason with your partner if they are emotional or not? Oh, forget it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So that goes with that, that's adults as well. Like if my wife is emotional and it's, it's, it's happening. There is no reasoning. Should I, I should take a step back. No, no. You should allow her to have that until she's done. All right. Then when she's done, and she's over the emotion. You see, when we're emotional, there's always a gap between the way we appear, the way things appear and the way things really are. And if we react during that period where we're altered, we'll always regret. I should have never said that.

I should have never sent that email. I should have never thought that because those survival emotions alter our perception of reality. And we don't see things how they are. We see things how we are. And so it just kind of inflames the situation. I've always said that our default and correct me if I'm totally off base. But I feel like our sort of default, you know, emotion is fear i feel like we always default to fear i feel like it's a primal thing almost we don't

default to happiness you know we default to fear i feel like that's a universal thing yeah i think fear is hardwired into the nervous system yeah in the survival centers uh and so but the fear typically is created from the feeling like things are getting worse in your life the the perception that you can't control or predict something when you're stepping into the unknown a lot of times. The unknown is what switches on that fear response. And one of the things that's so valuable for people is to teach them how to be present when they're in the unknown. And that, again, is what meditation and some of the work we've done in the research we've done that teach people how to overcome that.

And it takes a lot of awareness and a lot of energy, but boy, you see people with, completely different brains when they do it. What are your thoughts just on the coronavirus on COVID-19? Well, again, I think people should practice all the right things with reducing infection. I think that's reasonable. As I was saying, we have a very strong capacity in our body to heal. And we shouldn't live in a state of fear around this because I think fear is going to actually cause us to feel more vulnerable to something in our environment. But I do think that it will pass.

I do think that will survive it. I do think that people really need to understand, though, that they have the ability to make their own immune responses in the body. can do that, keep them healthy and help them with it. But I wouldn't spend a whole lot of time obsessing about it. I'd spend more time about seeing this time as a great opportunity to retreat from our lives and break the routine and to learn and to study and to come out as somebody else to step out into the world as an evolved version. The thing is can everybody heal themselves though? You know what I mean? Like is this is this a universal thing? You know, and does it take some people, is it harder for some people, you know, to heal themselves? Because if that was the case,

could we be rid of all disease without medicine? I'm going to the extreme, of course, but Well, that's a, you know, this, we are, this is a time in history where it's not enough to know. I think this is a time in history to know how. And because information is so readily available, we don't need an authority. We don't need a doctor. We don't need a priest. We don't need a government. We don't need a teacher to gain information. We can gain information. We have access to it. And that gives them to take their power back to some degree and gives themselves permission to change. So when we started on this journey 15, 20 years ago and seeing how the mind can influence the body, if you said to me, do you think,

you would ever see what I'm currently witnessing right now in our research. I would say to you maybe once or twice, but this is like the four-minute mile. We have blind people seeing. We have deaf people hearing. We have people that have been confined to wheelchairs, stepping out of wheelchairs. I mean, this is, to me, I'm more surprised, I swear, than anybody. We've seen people with a very significant stage four cancers go into remission, rare genetic disorders. I mean, crazy stuff, tumors disappearing, crazy stuff. And so I think that theoretically, there's a great capacity to heal. I think certain people understand the what and the why better than others. But when we see people make significant strides and they stand in front of an audience and they tell their story

about their health and their diagnosis and their limitation and then they talk about their own personal change and transformation and then they show their scan and the condition was there and then the condition is not it disappeared and the person in the audience that has the same condition who who has the same health condition sees what they're doing or what had what they've done uh that four minute miles speaking to them and telling them that you're looking at truth right in front of them and a collective consciousness starts to emerge so not everybody heals no and and this is not for everybody and my mother would never not see her doctor no matter what i said to her she just had to go to her doctor she was indoctrinated into that

but people now are wanting to participate in their health and and they want to understand and so knowledge then allows them to apply what they learn, to practice it, to repeat it. And then they see the scientific data that we have. You can change your gene expression. You can lengthen your life. You can make your immune system stronger. You can make your brain work better. You can make your heart work better. This is incredible. It's so exciting because I, the things that I've always been, I've always been passionate on what people would always call alternative medicine or practices that I've found that have really shifted my energy or focus and now starting to see science catch up with so many things that we've known but have always sort of been seen

as either be Eastern philosophy or considered alternative and now it's really at the forefront of scientific research is exciting it's really exciting I'm super excited I think we should explain to people who haven't read your work or listened to you some of the basic process behind healing and well a small portion of my work has to do with healing I think I think the side effect of a person's change personal transformation is a change in form a change in their physical body and and I believe that your personality creates your personal reality and your personality is made up of how you think, how you act, and how you feel. So the present personality who's listening to this podcast has created the present personal

reality called their life, which means then if you want to create a new personal reality, a new life, that means you're going to have to change your personality. That means you're going to have to start thinking about what you've been thinking about and change it. It means you're going to have to become conscious of your unconscious habits and behaviors and modify them. Then you're going to have to look at emotions that have been created from past experiences, and you're going to have to decide, do these emotions belong in my future?

And I think that most people try to create a new personal reality as the same personality, and it doesn't work. We literally have to become someone else. So if we think 60 to 70,000 thoughts in one day, and 90% of those thoughts are the same thoughts as the day before, and you believe that your thoughts have something to do with your destiny. If 90% of your thoughts are the same thoughts as yesterday, then your life is going to pretty much the same, because the same thoughts lead to the same choices.

The same choices lead to the same behaviors. The same behaviors create the same experiences, and the same experiences produce the very same emotions, and those same emotions influence our same thoughts, and now your biology stays the same. So then there's a principle in neuroscience that says that nerve cells that fire together wire together. So if you keep thinking the same thoughts, keep making the same choices, keep doing the same thing, keep creating the same experiences that stamp the same networks of neurons into the same patterns, all for the familiar feeling called you. And you've done that for the last

10 years. By the time you're 35 years old, you become a set of hardwired programs that function just like a subconscious computer program. So 95% of the person's personality is memorized their habits, their behaviors, their emotional reactions, their thoughts, they're happening behind the scenes of their awareness. So the first step to change is to become conscious of those unconscious states of mind and body. And disentangling from those programs takes a lot of energy and awareness. And most people would rather turn on the TV or get on their cell phone or get distracted by something from their environment to really want to make a change.

And unfortunately, it takes crisis and trauma and disease and disease. diagnosis and break down for people to finally decide the change. And my message is, why would you want to wait for that, that you can learn and change in a state of pain and suffering or you can learn and change in a state of joy and inspiration? So when a disease falls away out of a person's body, they will tell you that disease existed in the old personality. I'm somebody else. I'm not that same person.

And they didn't visualize anything go away. They understood the concepts of neuroplasticity and epigenetics and how to signal new genes. and genes make proteins. And they became their own genetic engineer. And yeah, it was hard. And they had to sit with themselves and overcome their fear. And it change is uncomfortable because the moment you decide to do something differently, you're going to feel uncomfortable because you're leaving the known.

You're leaving the familiar and stepping into the unknown. A lot of times when you do any sort of transformative work, things change. Of course. Of course. And because because most people see you based on. the memory of you. They see you from the past. So when people show up and they're no longer predictable and they're happy for no reason, they're like, what is up with her? Why? She's, oh, she did that thing. Because they're still in the known, right? They're still clinging to

the suffering. They're so happy, being unhappy, that they never occurred to them that they could lose that and become somebody else. She was so much more fun when she didn't really ask me how I was doing. I think, I think it's, obviously, I think it's easier said. and done. You know what I mean? This takes work. I mean, I only can, I only say this because what you seem to be describing, at least a part of it, is cognitive behavioral therapy. I mean, it's what I have been doing for the last four years, and it's, it just resonates with me so much, but it does take work, you know, it's not, at least for me personally, it's not so easy just to change your mind, to think something, because I know that our thoughts create our

emotions that would create, you know, how we feel. So let me respond to that, Oliver, because if it was easy, everybody would be doing it. Right. But I say, I say, you already know how to do it. I think we are wired to be creators. I think everybody on this call, I think everybody who's in this interview has all done something great in their life. And what did you do when you did something great? You got a vision, you got an idea, you got this wild thing that took place in your mind. And you got so fascinated with that thought that the thought in your mind became the experience and you began to feel the emotion before the event and you were like whoa that was i i think i can do that and and you started thinking about all the choices you had to make and all the things you had to do and

you know you started thinking about all the goals and experiences you wanted to create and every time you wrote those down you felt more of those emotions and you were changing when you were doing that and and then people who are really in the process of change they understand that they got to stop thinking I can. It's too hard. I'll never change. I don't feel good. They got to get beyond those thoughts. And they got to start making different choices. And the hardest part about change is not making the same choices the day before. Right. That takes effort. But aren't some of those choices haven't they been cemented in your trauma, cemented in childhood trauma? Meaning you have to chip away at that cinder block in order for those choices to be free, essentially? Well, yeah, probably probably

Five years ago, I would have said yes to that, but I have to tell you that we've kind of figured out a formula, a way for people to make very significant strides and changes once they understand the science of what they're doing and we can give them the proper feedback. So you can get into that operating system. You know how to change your brain waves and do it properly and enter the operating system where that trauma exists. You can rewrite the program. And all it is is just learning how to do anything and we've we've seen people do it now in our research and the universities that are studying us are amazed that our students can do it so quickly is this what you do in your workshops do you kind of take people through that process so we ask people to come to a week-long

event and we ask them to retreat from their lives and and to disconnect from the constant stimulation that reminds them of who they think they are as a personality no don't see the same people don't go to the same places, don't do the same things. Now, let's fill your brain with knowledge. We now know every time you learn something new, you make those new connections in your brain, that if you don't repeat it, review it, and think about it, those circuits are going to prune apart.

So if learning is making the connections, then remembering is maintaining them. So then get people to share about the information, talk about it, build a model, install the hardware in preparation for the experience. Once people understand what they're doing and why they're doing it and they sign meaning to it, throw them into the experience.

So we do this with people, and we keep building it more and more as the week goes on. And my God, we do all kinds of scientific measurements, a lot of the events. And you see people at the end of the week, we see miracles. We see these amazing changes take place in people's health and in their life. And we have hundreds of testimonies of not only just changing people's health, but the new job, the new career, the new relationship, the mystical experience, a transcendental moment. You learn the formula, Oliver, and all of a sudden,

it's no different than hitting a golf ball. You just start getting better at it. You start enjoying it. It's no longer work. It's like, ah, this is where I go to create coherence and balance. Joe, let me say one thing. Hitting a golf ball is always work. I will.

I was a plus two golfer in my time. And shit, man, it was always work. Yeah. Well, you got a point there. But that is, man, that is, yeah. I mean, I'm not going to get into it. I've talked about it on this podcast numerous times, but I don't know if you've heard of the Hoffman Institute. I went there and had the most amazingly transformative experience of my life, and it was very similar to a lot of the things that you're talking about.

Well, to answer Kate's question, a whole week, and you get the first two days, if you get people to overcome themselves, I give them numerous opportunities to overcome themselves and apply that formula. I give them numerous opportunities to connect. And sooner or later, they start. understand they sooner or later they start locking in and then after that second day then it's all about creating reality and then it's all about creating a future and let's let's program your subconscious let's condition your body to a new emotion of the future let's change your energy let's signal new genes let's walk as it let's stand as it yeah let's become it yeah we'll see people starting to do this and do these walking meditations and yeah the end of a week uh you just see a lot of miracles a lot of crazy things it's so great and you know what kate going back to the kids

You know, this is, it's a great, we need to sort of bring this into the next generation. You know, if the parents can sort of, you know, put this onto their children, they can grow up from the age of six feeling this way. So how do you talk to children? How do you, how do you break this down for kids, you know? Well, I think kids meet information at different ages. You know, I mean, you would never, I would never want to teach my young children when they were young. that they create the reality that's not a healthy thing to teach a young person yet but you can teach them that they control and create their inner states and you can teach them how to shorten the refractory

period of those emotions and you can teach them how to open their hearts and you can teach them how to dream and imagine and then you can start teaching them we did this with my kids that i would set little seeds in in different planters and corn seed and one seed when they're were angry and they were frustrated and they whatever they put all that energy into that one and when we'd finish dinner we'd get around and we would just just love this one seed for the greatest good it could possibly get and the other one we never paid attention to and I can't tell you the number of times that seed that was getting all that negative emotion would get maggots or never even germinate and the other one would sprout way ahead of the control and my kids you know he'd give them the facts

they interpret the laws they would kind of look at that and i remember my daughter my oldest son was kind of poking at her one day and she looked at him and she said you know jace i'm not going to react to you because that wouldn't be loving to me and i understood that when she said that it meant that if it did that to the seed there i'm not going to let you do that to me like i'm going to stay i'm going to be loving to me and now she's a 29 year old kid and she makes every choice in her life by asking herself the question is this loving to me and then somehow she got it right and so he's still poking at her was that is he still poking at but she remembered yeah right no no they're best but but i think kids you give kids the facts they interpret the laws and in allegory and story i mean

like i think it's important for us as as parents like i did this with my kids for so many years I lay in bed with them and say, I'll tell you what, I didn't do as well as I wanted to do today. I felt from grace right around 3 o'clock. And I talk to them as if they're an adult about myself and how I could do a better job and when I lost my patience or whatever. And then my children would start. They'd say, yeah, I lost my patience too. And all of a sudden, you realize that these little beings in there are actually aware, right? They just don't have the language to explain.

it until you explain it to them. And then I would say to them, well, okay, I'm going to think about a better way that I could do it if it happens again. And then I'd say to them, okay, so if you had another opportunity to be with your friend, how would you be with her? And then say, I'd do this. No, no, no, no. Well, if you do that, it's going to leave this.

And so you build this little model with them. And the door between the conscious mind, the subconscious mind opens up right before you go to sleep. And then you tell them a story of these two kids in a faraway land where they were dragging, and princesses and and you tell the story how this little girl had this you know friend and how she changed and you're telling the story to remind them of what they're going to do and and you see them you know you they they learn by allegory it's storytelling and my kids would have these profound profound changes because they understood and then I'd say to them okay listen if you see

me like frustrated just kind of wink at me just give me the wink just let me know okay and if I see you uh you're getting frustrated and I'm almost stop and I'll pause and I'll look at you and I'll wink at you. And we would just do that. So let's just turn in this thing, you know, as they get older. It's now to this day, you know, we wink at each other sometimes, you know, because it's just something that we just did. But I was, I wasn't trying to be better than them.

I wanted to meet them on that level and talk about myself and then guide them up a little bit more and then meet them on that level and then guide them a little bit more. Not trying to get them there all at once, but have them make steps and have them be aware and conscious. And I know this is not the time you want to feel differently, but this is the time, this is all the practice that we've been doing before you go to bed and open in your heart. Let's pause for a moment. Let's change our state. I'll do it with you.

And then they'll say, hey, dad, take a moment with me. Come on, take a walk. Let's breathe. And we're helping one another. So it's just this kind of because they understand the practice, right? And so they want to practice that all the time. And that feels better. Wow, God.

I thought I was a good dad. I really thought I was a good father. I mean, this is, this is, wow, that's beautiful. But so then, Kate, and when they get a little older, and then you start teaching them how their thoughts become things and how their emotions drive their thoughts and how to change their energy and my kids now are all older and they create amazing things. They just don't think about it. It's just, it's why they're wired for it.

So, so they're creating the lives that they want, they're loving their lives. into reality, they're understanding how to apply the principles to see the manifestations happen in their lives. And I want them to do that. That's fun, right? Is there any problem that's insurmountable? Of course. I mean, is there any problem, sorry, is there any problem that's insurmountable? I mean, it seems like when you have that kind of an attitude, you can pretty much get through anything. Not without pain, but you can get through it. Well, I don't know. I mean, I always wonder what the alternative is. Like, it's not going to come from wealth. It's not going to come from drugs.

It's not going to come from all the things that people rely on. You know, most people are conditioned to need their outer world to change their inner world. And it's nothing wrong with that. But when it's all said and done, people who understand that they can change their inner world and produce an effect in their outer world are less victims to their environment and more creators of their environment. And a victim is someone, if you say to them, why are you unhappy? And they'll say, I am unhappy because of that person or that circumstance.

What they're really saying is that outer environment, that outer condition, is controlling my feelings and my thoughts. Well, you're giving your power away to that person or that condition. So learning how to self-regulate now and change your inner state, it feels so unnatural. But if you're going to become supernatural, you've got to start first doing what feels unnatural. And the training then to understand how to do that, all of a sudden teaches people how to change their energy and all of a sudden start connecting back to the vision of their future. And I want people to be able to stay conscious and catch themselves when they fall from grace and then self-correct and make that change. And that's the example.

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And it feels like you've just lost a person off your back. And then people start looking at their lives and they start looking at, you know, different kinds of spiritual practices and things like that. And I find that the spiritual work is sometimes the hardest for people to get to because it's not as tangible. It's a little bit more daunting for people. It's also very subjective, right? I mean, you can't measure many changes. really subjectively what a person says, oh, I just feel better. Well, what we want people to do is

have the transformation and see the effect take place as feedback in their life, whether the side effect is a change in their health, which happens many times, that they have the synchronicities, the serendipities, the coincidences, the opportunities begin to show up. Once they start seeing the feedback in their life, they're going to pay attention to what they've been doing and they're going to do more of it and they're going to believe in it more a little bit more. So I think it's imperative that people have to turn, you know, make the change and turn that around. And when you do something physically and you see the change physically, you get, that's the feedback you need. But when it comes to meditation and inward changes, a lot of people give up because they don't see the change as quickly as they want and they say it didn't work.

No, no, I've seen it work too many times. It's not whether it works or not. whether we work in doing it and doing it well. One of the things I've always said to people is that the greatest transformation I ever had was when I started meditating. That was when my life started to change. Well, I think, you know, one of the things that's so cool with our community and, you know, we have a huge community, global community. What I'm proud of with our community is they do the work. They just do the work.

And I ask them all the time, you know, many of us don't miss a day. thousands and thousands and thousands and why because they don't want the magic to end where they're in a groove they love what's happening in their life and they're not like getting up going oh god i got to go connect or go create my life they're like i can't i've got to keep going and they sat in the fire for long enough to make the significant changes and they got a momentum and they don't want to lose the magics the mystical experiences the synchronicities the cool things that are happening they're they're they're caught up in an energy every Every time they get feedback, they're going to use that emotion of awe and wonder to drive and make the next creation.

So you've got to get it going. Once you get it going, then you don't want to stop because you feel more balanced. You feel more poised. You feel more spontaneous. You feel more creative. That's the side effect. But are there many ways to get to that place? Meaning because you're dealing with different spirituality, different religions, different beliefs and faiths.

You know, is there one path or are there multiple paths? No, I mean, there's multiple paths. I mean, for me personally, I don't, I don't, you know, spend a whole lot of time studying traditional meditation. It's just not me. What we've done is we've studied a lot of brains. We've studied a lot of hearts. We've studied real-time measurements of brain function. And I want to be able to demystify it by using a contemporary language of science so that it can you talk religion or tradition or

culture, you divide an audience. There's a word of something that switches somebody off or they have the wrong understanding of it. But when you put it in the scientific realm, science creates community. It connects people because it transcends all the things that create separation. So it is a little bit difficult and there's a lot of different ways to get there, but I'm telling you, boy, when people start really understanding the science of what they're doing and why they're doing it, how they can change their brain circuitry, how they can signal new genes, and you give them you give them the formula and they start practicing it. Someone's going to figure it out.

And when people start getting it right, it's just like the four-minute mile. When somebody broke the four-minute mile, they said it was impossible. And then 1,400 people have broken the four-minute mile since then. And someone heals and you see, my God, that was 50 brain tumors. Wow, that was leukemia. Wow, that was a osteosarcoma.

And you see it go away. And the person's telling their story. you got to start understanding then it's not something that is so hard to do that you have to learn. It's what we already know how to do. It's all the unlearning that we have to go through to get there. Do you take people through sort of a retrospective of their own lives and their own traumas and things like that? Never. Never. Never. Never. No, I don't think the trauma's necessary. See, the stronger the emotion you feel from some event that's taken. place in your life, the more altered you feel inside of you emotionally. The arousal or the stronger

the quotient of that emotion, the more you narrow the focus on the cause and the brain freezes the frame and takes a snapshot. And that's called a long-term memory. So people then change biologically, neurologically, genetically from trauma because they keep reviewing the event in their mind and they keep producing the same chemistry and their brain and bodies as if the event was happening and stimulus response thought feeling memory picture emotion and you start the conditioning process and the body is so objective it's reliving the experience a hundred times a day but what about the subconscious that's what becomes subconscious they're subconsciously programming their body to live in the past this is becoming a subconscious state they're subconsciously memorizing that

emotion to be subconsciously a victim subconsciously unhappy it's an automatic state now. So now. But don't you have to go and break into that subconscious. So the purpose of meditation is to get beyond the analytical mind. And what separates the conscious mind from the subconscious mind is the analytical mind. And so when you teach people not have to break through anything, forget the event. Just overcome the emotion. Once you overcome the emotion, you won't remember the event. And the memory without the emotional charge is called wisdom. And that's the name of the game here. Now you don't belong to the past. You belong to the future.

And this is when people are free. This is when the endometriosis goes away. Their suicidal tendencies change. Their need to overeat goes away because they're happy with themselves. They're free. So when you start understanding how to control brainwaves, it's not about breaking through. It's about getting beyond yourself, getting beyond your memory of the past, getting beyond your body, getting beyond the people in your life, the objects, the things, the places you live. you're getting beyond your neural circuitry and when you understand how to practice that and you

understand how to do it it's like learning anything so then you get into that operating system and now you can rehearse mentally a new program and practice it and rewrite a new program and program yourself subconsciously to something else and we see quite a big changes. Did you have like a progressive sort of open shop upbringing you know I mean were you are was this ingrained in you this sort of openness or is this long? God, no. No, it was, oh, it was. No. No, I came from a traditional Italian family, yeah. No, but also my parents were super open-minded, you know, just really, just, they just were like, wow, let's learn that. They didn't really, you know, they were just always curious. This kind of thinking could be so, so incredibly helpful. I mean,

but at the same time, really more difficult than ever, because you're going to have, have so many people out of work, so many people afraid for their, you know, livelihoods, not knowing where their next paycheck will be coming from, trying to figure out how to deal with government, you know, handouts and things like that. How does one who's dealing with that kind of stressor? Oh, yeah. I mean, it's so true, Kate. I mean, just to put it, put it, you know, just sort of point blank, it's like, people are going to be like, I can't fucking meditate. I can't deal with this shit right now. I have, I don't have a paycheck. Yeah, okay, I, how am I supposed to be fucking happy? It's not even a possibility right now.

When people are threatened and the situation heightens emotions, of course, they're going to be in survival most of the time. And yes, that's not unnatural. But we have to become creative. We have to become resourceful. We have to think outside the box. And yeah, it's going to be a challenging time for a lot of people. And those people will have alternatives. I mean, they may need medication to balance themselves if they can't overcome themselves. And they should use medications if it helps them to regulate back into balance. And people should use all the tools they can to cope with the current situation and therapy and everything else. And I'm offering one way to help people across that river. And again, it takes a great effort to convert from

those survival emotions, those stress emotions, into other emotions. But I'm offering one alternative, but people should do all the things they need to do to keep themselves chemically in balance, physically and emotionally imbalance. Yeah. And I guess what I'm saying is that this is the kind of work that I think especially now could really be more important than ever, you know, because it's something that doesn't cost anybody anything to be their own architect, doesn't cost anybody to take that moment in their life and just settle themselves and start learning a new way of being. I would just say that the work that you do is something that I hope that people look to. I want people to have the tools. I mean, I do want people to have the tools. And again, you know,

if you're starting with meditation and you're in survival or you're, you know, you're hit by the present global crisis and you have no experience doing it, you'll have to learn. It might be a little bit more challenging for you. But those people who have dabbled in it, those people understand how to create changes in their brain and body, this will be instrumental to them. They'll They'll say, I'm not going to react in fear. I'm going to change my state. And I don't know if I can control everything in my outer world, but I certainly can't control enough in my inner world. And I think that's when you start mastering your environment is when you start mastering yourself in that way.

And so that's not for everybody, but for the people who are interested in it, they see it as a challenge. They see it as an initiation. And those challenges, I think, cause us to grow in ways we've never ever, ever, ever, thought of and where we're forced as a species to have to grow in new ways. What as a neuroscientist? What are your thoughts on psychedelics? Well, um... Interesting question, Oliver. Thanks.

Those, those, well, if you have receptors in your brain for those particular chemicals, that means your brain probably is an endogenous machine that makes the same chemicals. And so there's a little gland in the back of your brain called the penial gland. And it makes serotonin and melatonin. And those are the brain chemicals that change your brain waves to wake up in the morning and to go to sleep at night. And the psychedelics fit in the same receptors. Many of them fit in the same receptors as serotonin and melatonin, but they carry a different message. And so it opens up the door to perception.

and your penicline actually makes those chemicals that create the mystical experience or the transcendental moment. But I think it's a really great way for people to have an insight or a different way to view the world outside of their current neurological circuitry or neurochemistry. And I do think it opens the door for people to have a greater understanding. I'm challenged by it when people use it all the time. to escape from their disease or to escape from their life, then all of a sudden it's no longer ritualistic. It no longer has meaning. It's just, it's used in a very limited way.

But it's created in ritual, in ceremony, and people have meaning behind it, and they're given certain guidance. I think it can create a great paradigm shift for a person. But I always warn people, you know, just because you have an insight, it doesn't mean it changes behavior. The insight should be something that changes.

you that when you walk back into your life you're transformed in some way and you're different from the experience you're more aware you know more you understand more some veil some conditioning some illusion has been removed and and now you're now you're you're more engaged in something that called life that appears to be some filters been taken away i think i think it's healthy for people to do that just but not to not to escape from the right but so but in the medicinal sense as you're sort of speaking of, you do think that it is, it can be expanding, not just for a recreation, but something that is even deeper for your psyche, for your mind. Sure, sure.

I mean, yes, absolutely. There's been some good research done out of John Hopkins, John Hopkins, and I've actually, I know some of the scientists there, and they noticed that people who never really took any drugs in their life, people that were a middle class, up of middle class, people that were high-functioning people that you know had hard knocks in life but you know they they did well those people that had never ever had any type of experience with drugs had the most profound experiences because it was so virgin and so new to them and they just had a huge paradigm shift so so i mean yeah we want people to see a glimpse of reality from a different place and

experimenting with that as i said to open the door uh can can really alter people's perception How about your family, like, do you and your wife fight? I mean, how does that work? You're so evolved. And I'm not claiming that you're inhuman, of course. But you have so much feeling with this that are you irrational? And do you catch yourself? You're like, oh, shit, Dr. Joe, what the hell are you doing?

Calm down. Calm the fuck down, Dr. Joe. I don't, no, I think I've owned a lot of that personally. I mean, I've sat long and hard with myself. So I think I've really, I don't think it's a problem to react. I think the question is how long you react. And it's not suppressing emotions or holding back from emotions. It's moving through them quickly.

Because if you can't control your emotions and you allow those chemicals to run for hours or days, that's called a mood. And you say to someone, what's wrong with you? They say, I'm in a mood. Why are in a mood? And they say, oh, this thing happened to me five days ago, which means there having one long emotional reaction for five days. You keep that same chemical response going on for weeks or months that's called the temperament. Why is he so angry?

I don't know. Let's ask him. Why are you so angry? This thing happened to me 10 months ago and I'm memorizing my emotional reaction. You keep the same emotional reaction going on for years on end. That's called a personality trait. And so I think I just know enough now to know that it never turns out like trial and error. You just kind of learn that none of that really makes a difference.

and not even holding a grudge because the only person that it affects is you. So for me, I mean, I'm definitely just a normal guy. I mean, there's things I love. But I'm certainly interested in the process of human potential and transformation. What about your kids? Were your kids ever like, dad, when they're teenagers, just like, dad, okay, we know we need to do this, da, da, da, that. No, I never did that. No.

No, I never did that with my kids. I never did that. I would sit them down never when they were emotional, but I would say, I want to teach you some things that's that I've been thinking about. Yeah. And I'd sit down and I'd get out a whiteboard and they would all just sit there and just listen to me. And I never really wanted to instruct them or teach them when there was chaos. I wanted to just move through whatever. And then when we're all settled down, I'd say, hey, I think we can do better.

I just think that I could do better. How about you guys? And so I want to have numerous opportunities to get it right. And with my kids, I wanted to just have times where I taught them. And at the end of some of the conversations with my kids, I remember them saying, that was the best hour of my life. They would say that to me. That was the best hour of my life because I was giving them information about themselves to understand. you know like well wait a second does that mean that yeah that means that well does that mean this

yeah that means that how old were they though you know just for even myself and for everyone may be listening like how old were your kids at that point do they have to have be of a certain age to really grasp these concepts seven six seven wow seven they started they started getting interested yeah yeah god can my kids come live with you just for like two weeks just two weeks you know we were we before this whole global thing happened we we because of by popular demand i mean we listened to our community and one of the things our community demanded from us was a parent and kids workshop and we were working on doing one in san diego and um and then we we were going to do it in chicago and just because of the way things are so we postponed it but um we have now

when we do our week long events we have eight and ten year old kids come to our event with our parents and they go through all they hang in there with the whole week and they're pretty cool I mean I always look at these kids going thinking wow who these kids going to be when they grow up and they get it you know they don't have a whole lot of baggage and and they love you know doing the work and it's kind of fun to see so we're going to start doing parents and kids workshops and be called supernatural kids such a great idea that's a great idea you know because I you know saying before we we came on with Kate you know I was talking about Wilder and he's going through puberty right now like it's just beginning he's 12 but

he's just starting to be a dick all of a sudden I'm like he's like just being a dick you know what exactly is happening in his brain right now from a neurological standpoint okay what is happening he's going through a lot of pruning he's losing half of his brain circuitry right now and his testosterone levels are causing him to kind of go inward to speak less yeah to feel more insecure around his friends, comparing his friends to him. One of the things that we do that we do these teen workshops all over the world. Last one we did was in Mexico City. And one of the things that we love to do with kids is to teach him about their biology

from 12 years old to 19 years old and talk about all the things that their parents never talk to them about. And you go over testosterone and you go over progesterone, you go over estrogen, and you go over all these different things that happen to their biology. And they get so into it. And they laugh and they understand. And one kid posted on Facebook on his Facebook, he said, hey, mom, now I understand why I blow you off. Testosterone levels, 20 times normal. We got to talk.

We got to talk. so they understand like oh fuck this is it's not it's not it's not it's not me it's my biology this is what happens this is part of it you know and so so um so the kids get it when they start getting their biology and then you teach them about leadership and you teach them about values and you teach them how to create reality and teach them the formula and you teach them how to go into trance and change their brainwaves and they come up to you at the end of the event and they're like dude listen i thought my parents were hippies and weirdos and going to your events and now we totally love this man it makes so much sense and now there's you know families are coming and

that's a dream of mine you know one of the that's cool that's awesome but what's the best way to handle the puberty stage like you know when they get withdrawn you're just sort of because i i probably do all the wrong things because i'm like wilder fucking just talk to me dude no no no no listen because i know i'm doing it wrong yeah he wants his independence. Yeah, okay. The whole reason he's shutting you out is because he thinks you're the biggest nerd, you know, not possible. Have you seen me? I mean, look at this background. No, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, uh, pubescent boys think their fathers are idiots. Their parents are idiots. They don't know what they're doing or what they're talking about. And then the father tries

to move closer and looks more like an idiot, right? And, uh, and the truth is they just want to be left alone And so you check in with them, but you cut them in the space. And then there's times where they have their space. Then there's times where they don't have their space. They have to engage. There's times when they have to communicate. There's times where they have to work and produce. And those are all part of the things you have to help them through.

And there's just, you help them through with one attitude or another. But if he's 12 and it's just starting to happen, wait until he gets to be 14. You think he blows you off now? Yeah. 16-year-old. Yeah, Kate knows all about it already. It's a really hard time, especially, I think, for boys. It's hard, the social circles, keeping up with those things.

And their access to technology, you know, I mean, I wrote an article a ways back and it was called Kidnap by Technology. And one of the interesting things about raising kids with technology is that when they game or when they play or they even text that, The act of breaking through or overcoming or winning or anything releases dopamine in the brain and not a little dopamine, but a lot of dopamine. Dopamine is a pleasure chemical. And the reward centers get stimulated and what happens is the rush of that much dopamine

to the cell is overwhelming. So the cell closes down. And it means that the next time it's, it needs more of that stimulation to switch it on. It's like living with his spouse that always yells at you. They got to yell louder to get your attention. Cells get desensitized. And so the pleasure centers in the brain get recalibrated to a higher and higher level. So in the absence of that stimulation, they can't find pleasure from anything.

So walking the dog or going to see their grandmother or, yeah, it's an addiction. It's addiction. The sea of sunset is just boring because they just blew up a nation or they just wrote through. And so now you look at learning, right? And learning should be a reward in and of itself. and they can't pay attention because they can't switch their brain on because it's been over-stimulated. So the only way they switch their brain on is to get in trouble to act out, to get a rush of adrenaline, to switch on that alarm system just for a momentary rush of awareness.

And so now you fast forward to a kid to an adult and they're facing challenging or difficult situations in their life and they're subconsciously programmed to need something in their outer world to change their inner world. But their pleasure centers are hijacked to such a high level that nothing's switching them on. Now, what's the alternative? You know, I mean, it's unfortunate, but you start believing in the thoughts that you're thinking. And you can't get pleasure out of anything. And that's called adhedonia. And that's an unfortunate circumstance.

But when you can't finally get happy, you're scary. Before we get going, I do want to talk about little like childhood, the child, children, child anxiety, just only because we were saying before, again, Kate came on that Wilder, my oldest, sort of has that, and it's sort of around his health, you know, and you see it manifest itself. I feel like I'm doing an okay job with dealing with it, but what's the best way to sort of go about dealing with that, you know, when you think that he is, it's anxiety, but there's also a part of you, and Kate, you can probably relate to this, where you're like, well,

Maybe it's not. Like, should we get his stomach, you know, an MRI on his tummy? Well, more than likely, Ali, if he has anxiety, then he's in his mind picturing a very, very worst-case scenario in his mind. And he's making that thought so real that his brain is producing the chemistry as if he was living in that future, that's worst-case scenario in the present moment. And he's feeling the fear of the outcome before it's happened, right? And stimulus response, he's conditioning his body to subconsciously become the mind of fear. And the rush of the adrenaline starts to become a little bit addictive. And so he has to keep signaling the same chemistry to arouse him because it becomes almost like an addictant dependent on that emotional state.

So it makes sense then to lay down in bed with him before he goes to sleep and start talking about you and just start talking about what bothers you and what you're afraid of and give him an opportunity when he's ready to talk about what it is that he's afraid of and what it is that's creating it. And sometimes he's just out of balance because kids that are addicted to technology or dependent on technology, they need that fast stimulation. And when they can't get the fast stimulation from their technology, they get vigilant. They get anxious. And that becomes a little bit of a challenge, especially as their testosterone levels go up and everything becomes heightened. Right. Everything becomes overly stimulated. So I think if you find the cause of this fear and you can work with him and not just analyzing the fear that does nothing,

but giving him tools and solutions on how to change the emotion to love. and learn how to teach him how to open his heart and say this is what I do and let's practice it together and let's see what happens and I'm learning it too and he'll remember and he'll love you for that because in the beginning he'll think it's corny but in time he'll really start coming to you and ask yeah I try and I feel like I have to force him sometimes to say you know you just keep keep going with me here we need to keep this five-minute meditations a night and you know it's funny actually because I was I tried to do that where I try to relate to him in some way because I was an anxious kid and I had a bout of major anxiety in my early

20s and I tried to relate to him and one night he thought he said to me he goes dad look you always tell me this that you had it too but I'm not you and I was like oh okay like yeah maybe you're right here he goes I don't I don't feel the same way that you feel we're different and he became my teacher in a way I was like oh well maybe you're right buddy but I But if he's living in fear, then his digestive system will be altered because it goes counter. When you're in survival, when you're in fear, an animal doesn't eat in fear. An animal runs, hides, or fights. And so if you stay in fear all the time, blood flow leaves your digestive system.

You shouldn't say that to your extremities. You're not in a state to metabolize. You're not in a state for healing. And so the condition becomes very psychosomatic, mind, body. because he's knocking his body out of balance by thought alone. And if that's the case, then the body's not in a healthy state to metabolize. And so, yeah, he'll have difficulty with digestion. Cool.

Wow. Fascinating. What about gifted children? You know, children who are just extremely gifted, you know, what's going on in their brains at that young of an age. Well, it depends. Depends. I mean, if you're talking about a savant,

someone who's, you know, very, very gifted in the, but not very functional in daily life, well, very different, wired very differently than most people. But very talented children, they just have the natural capacity to learn, to remember,

and to execute and to do. I mean, they process very, very quickly. And, wow, then you see children that are like on the autistic spectrum that also have a very over-focused frontal lobe, very active frontal lobe, and they're like Asperger's super, super-focused, very focused kids. And they can focus on one thing for a very, very long period of time and figure things out. So, I mean, there's just so many variations. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What about, you know, I love moon cycles, solar cycles. Do you believe that there's any science behind any of those things? Or is that all just sort of like... Yeah, I'm not a big fan of horoscopes in planets. Let me tell you why. And it's not to say that I don't believe that there's cyclical things that happen. but the person say who for example who's obsessing about their life and lives in anxiety and finally has a panic attack and they go to the psychic and the psychic says that mercury is in retrograde

and that's the reason for their panic attack and to stay home for the next six months that person's giving their power away to a planet and they're not giving themselves the understanding that they have the power to change and they'll stay home for six months because their their psychic told them that. And people, you know, I think they use some of that as an excuse. And so I have some, I have some challenges with that when people, when they excuse themselves. And meanwhile, they're mismanaging their thoughts and emotions. And it's the whole reason for their anxiety is because of that. And so I just don't know enough about it from a scientific standpoint. But what about like women's, for instance, like women were very complex and how we work. But we

do actually cycle a lot of times, whether it be with tide or with the moon cycles and you know, how we connectively, when we're, like, whenever I'm traveling with, you know, we, there's, there is some connectivity to energy, right? Well, the Earth has its electromagnetic field and its field is influenced by other large bodies. And I do think that in periods where electromagnetic energy on the earth is at its height, there's also a lot of global activities that happen as well. So I do think that there are cycles. I do think that we entrain in, everything's a cycle, in a rhythm, and a pattern, whether

it's a circadian rhythm, whether it's a lunar pattern. I mean, I think we're all cycles within cycles, within cycles. So I do think that there's a rhythm that causes us to respond to it. But I don't excuse myself and say, oh, I'm not going to create today because it's a, you know, Mercury's and Retrograde. I wouldn't say that I create in spite of it. I'm not supposed to sign contracts in April. That's crazy. You know what?

I'm going to sign contracts in April. Thursdays are bad days for me. I don't show up to work. We'll make it a great day. We'll change that. You got the power to change that. Joe, what do you do every morning? How long do you spend?

a day doing your work, creating your future? Okay. No, I allow for two hours, typically, in the morning for myself. And I allow for two hours. It doesn't mean I take two hours, but I like to have my time in the morning. I get up early, and that's my time. And the rest of the day I'm serving, and the rest of the day, I'm doing my thing. But in the morning, it's my time.

And some days I slip in and it's beautiful. and it's easy and I have time to do other things. And other days I have to work to find the present moment and get beyond myself. But if I allow for two hours, I usually have enough time to make the... And is it a practice? I mean, do you have a practice that you do every morning? It doesn't vary. No, no, no.

I mean, I do different things. I create different things. I mean, there's so much to our work and so much to what I do. but I do like to open my heart every day so it's a life and I understand the value of that creative center and I understand what it does to our immune system and to our gene expression and to our health and I want to start my day from my heart I want to lead with my heart and my life and then I practice a breath to draw energy into my brain and then I practice a technique called an open focus to create brain coherence.

And then when I get beyond myself and I'm in the field instead of connected to matter, then I change my energy and I start creating. I start creating things I want in my life. When was the last time you honked at someone? I don't know. First of all, I know this sounds crazy, but I don't drive very much because I'm on the road 300 days a year. So this is cool that I'm home, you know, for a while. It's different.

Serendipity, happenstance, coincidence. Is this just the definition of the word or is there something bigger to this? Oh, my God. We need a bottle of wine in two hours for that one, bro. Okay. I'll call you. No, listen. Listen, I mean, when you synchronize your energy to a future and you understand how to create, when you open your heart, the research shows that when energy makes it to the heart, the heart begins to produce an external

magnetic field that's up to three meters wide. Now you have a field to connect to something. That energy is a frequency and frequency carries information. And you have a coherent brain and you can lay a coherent thought on that frequency. You're broadcasting a whole new signature into the field. You're synchronized. You've got a Wi-Fi signal and you can synchronize the information. So when you synchronize by combining a thought and a feeling, a clear intention with an elevated emotion, you're changing your energy. And if you can synchronize your energy, You should see synchronicities in your life. There should be coincidences.

The coincidences is kind of like a, like, you're kidding me. I was just thinking of that. Or something is giving you feedback to let you know that you're synchronized. And so we want those bigger events to synchronize when you have like, oh my God, that was the most incredible mystical experience of my life. And I didn't even take any plant medicine. My Benial land made it from me.

But I've been practicing awakening that center. Or the new job, the new career. the new life, the new relationship, the change in your body is, it's energy. And when you change your energy, you change your life. And if you're thinking and feeling the same way every day, then your energy is the same. And you exert very little effects on your life. So change your energy and understand how to apply those two principles. Then the synchronicities are letting you know that you have a coherent signal and you're

synchronized to the future. And the more refined and coherent that gets, the better, the better the synchronicity, the better the coincidence, the better the opportunity. So it can be a measurement in a way. I see it as a measurement that lets me know that I'm getting feedback in my life. And I'll believe tomorrow more of the creator of my life and less of the victim of my life. The victim is the environment that's controlling my feelings and my thoughts. The creators, my feeling and thoughts are changing my environment. And I want to practice that. I want to practice that enough times that I get good at it. That's amazing. And I will just say that again, I left Hoffman after these seven days.

and I had so much synchronicity and coincidence and happenstance in my life that it was mind-boggling to me where I would just be dumbstruck by it. I couldn't even believe it myself and it does, it did fade. I have to get back to that place. That's because your environment started to control your feelings and thoughts again and you return back to the same person, right? I actually got Oliver. I just was in, I was in New York and I was went to this shop.

and I bought Oliver a Christmas present. And it was funny because I just, I bought it. It was wild because I just bought it because it felt like Oliver and it just, I don't know, I just loved it so much. And I thought he would love it, even though it was this little plate. It was a little plate with a tree on it and had this saying on it. Yeah, but the best part about it, there were so many different symbols that were so representative of my transformation and who I felt I was now.

but the best part about it was this beautiful plate was just totally imperfect. It was wobbly and didn't sit right. And the design of the plate, the throw of the plate itself, just exemplified everything that is perfect, the imperfections of it all. It was awesome. It was really amazing. If you could leave us with something for our listeners, maybe, just like one little thing, they could do to improve their future selves.

Yeah, try it out. Wake up in the morning and ask yourself this simple question. What is the greatest ideal of myself? What is the greatest expression of myself that I can be today? Let me become conscious of how I don't want to think. I just want to become so conscious of those thoughts, I won't go unconscious to them. I won't let them slip by my awareness unnoticed. Let me become aware of how I speak, how I act.

Let me become so conscious that I'm not going to complain or blame or make excuses or feel sorry for myself. Let me become aware of the emotion that I feel on a daily basis. Is this guilt, is this shame? And I want to become so conscious of these states of mind and body, I won't go unconscious. And then, who do I want to be when I open my eyes? What thoughts do I want to fire and wire in my brain? What behaviors do I want to demonstrate in this day? And the act of closing your eyes and mentally rehearsing who you want to be when you open your eyes, all the things you're going to do, begins to install the neurological hardware in your brain to look like you already did it. And if you keep doing it, the hardware will become a software problem and you'll

start acting like that naturally. And then ask yourself, am I going to wait for my wealth to feel abundant or am I going to generate abundance? And then decide how you're going to condition your body into the emotion of your future and do not get up until you feel that way. And then practice staying in that state of being your entire day and as an experiment see what type of changes happen around you as a result of your change in your mind and body I love it I'm doing it tomorrow practice it'll be cool I'm going to wake up yeah and that will be my this is great so cool thank you guys this was on another level buddy thank you're welcome you all right nice meeting Well, nice to make you.

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