Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Erinn and Ollie: Kids These Days...

Episode Date: September 24, 2021

Erinn and Ollie are back again this week, joining from different cities. They catch up and debate if you're allowed to get ahead in a TV show you started with your partner, discuss social media rules ...for kids, the chaos of teenagers, and more.Executive Producers: Kate Hudson and Oliver HudsonProduced by Allison BresnickEdited by Josh WindischMusic by Mark HudsonThis show is powered by Simplecast.This episode is sponsored by:Azuna Fresh (www.AzunaFresh.com PROMO CODE: Sibling)Oak Essentials (www.oakessentials.com PROMO CODE: Sibling)ABC's Home Economics (https://abc.com/shows/home-economics)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:46 And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling rivalry No, no Sibling Reverie Don't do that with your mouth Sibling
Starting point is 00:02:10 Revelry That's good Hi, poop. Hi. Hi. Are you wearing your fake glasses with no actual prescription in them? Nope. So.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Babe, it's not fair. You look like hot and handsome and. Well, babe, look, it's just the way it is, you know? I mean, what are you talking about? you're crazy hot i just talked to jesse today who's a good friend of my oldest best friend since diapers and he's like i saw your hot ass wife today i'm like was she looking good he's like jesus christ he's like tan and nah la nah oh jeffy you're like 95 years old and hot thanks so i'm hot for 95 right but you're wearing why are you wearing your fake glasses right now because it makes me feel
Starting point is 00:03:10 a little you know smarter and maybe i'll be a little more articulate just in case you ever decide to like screenshot a picture of this that I'm covered um so I'm in albuquerque and you're in L.A. I know you're almost coming home. I know I'll be home on Friday. Um and uh you know the long distance I guess it's not long distance but you know there's a positive and a negative to that and I think people who have to work away from their families for periods of time can sort of relate and
Starting point is 00:03:49 understand it's hard to be away from your family it's hard to be away from you and hard to be away from the kids you know but that sort of cliche of the absence makes the heart grow fonder you know there is a reality to that I think you know well also don't forget we're coming off of like COVID and quarantine where we were together for a year and half and by together I mean I like we were barely ever apart I mean I maybe did like a girl's night or a sleepover or I mean that's it mm-hmm a year and a half so this and you know our family together you together home no traveling no work nothing so now to be apart you know I think it was a little more drastic and sad because we're like oh my god wait we've been together but it is nice in the
Starting point is 00:04:43 sense of like you miss each other you don't take you know things for granted when you get your time together it's kind of you know i mean we're only a few weeks in i don't know if i can do this all the time i mean no but some people do you know what i mean like you have to put it into perspective and think about you know some of these military families honestly that have to deal with that going overseas you know for months and months at a time you know their wives um being pregnant and not having their husband around you know for the pregnancy i was just watching something on that actually so you know you got to put it into perspective i know we're pretty lucky but i will say lucky for us you know one of the one of the sticking points with me being away and having so much
Starting point is 00:05:34 alone time is that i watch a ton of shows and i know you like to watch shows with me and i think This is a point of contention in a lot of relationships because I like to... You're about to say that you started something without me. Oh, I started and finished, mayor of East Town. Okay, well, that was a little scary for me probably, right? It's good. It's really, really good. But there's definitely shows that I want to keep watching.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Oh, and I finished White Lotus. Should we cut right now? Because... We already talked about that, though. I couldn't help it. That's not like I did it. I just said, whatever you do, that's the only one. Don't do it.
Starting point is 00:06:16 I couldn't help it. I'm sorry. Fucking watch the whole thing. You couldn't help it? It's not like wasted and you're making a stupid decision. This is like, I'm actually going to watch it without her and I'm not going to care what she says. I took a chance and I went for it, you know? What that chance is?
Starting point is 00:06:34 That's a fuck you. I really don't care about you, which really means you don't love me. That's absolutely not true. And that's bullshit. And that's what I think a lot of couples think. And I'm sure there's a lot of fights over sort of the... I said, watch the scary things. Watch the, like, bloody and gore and, you know, the...
Starting point is 00:06:49 There's only so many things that I can watch with that. Watch the wire, you know? I've seen the wire is 150 years old. Like, I will rewatch it, but there's a lot of good stuff right now, you know. But I watched finished White Lotus. But that's something we started together. Like, you're going to go and watch a show without me and do the, whole thing fine but you're starting i mean we started it together yeah i know but
Starting point is 00:07:20 i'll call jesse and see if he wants to watch with me well you can watch it now but you don't watch tv unless i'm with you yeah exactly and i get into bed the last thing i i want to do when i get into bed i'm in i'm into bed i'm into bed i'm not turning on the the TV when you're not here not the news nothing the only thing i'm watching is like lisa and lina with like rio you're like lisa and lina oh my god you know i'm sure some people understand what that is but it's a fucking first of all the youtube generation is is i and it doesn't great you know what's interesting is our kids originally like the first two are like grew up on Nick Jr. and like Cartoon Network and that kind of stuff. And now Rio,
Starting point is 00:08:15 there's no real TV. Like she's not watching. She's watching like her YouTube little specials and things and Darman. I mean. Oh, Darman. The whole life is Darman is like on every day in the house. Oh my God, Darman. I get so locked into Darman. You. That's what I mean. So now instead of finishing my Lotus, I'm watching Darman episodes. Right. So Darman is a YouTube channel. I'm sure somebody knows. but Darman's a YouTube channel with this guy who it's really it's really a beautiful thing I mean he is he is all about messaging okay and it has like 17 billion views on each on each YouTube video and it's this in your face terrible acting I wouldn't I mean that's not nice it's not it's just very you know it's it's it's over they're doing it for children so I think everything is a little overacted maybe but I'm sure those actors you know are decent actors it's just so you're saying you're saying that's a they're making a choice they're like I'm they're like I could probably win an Emmy or
Starting point is 00:09:22 an Academy Award but I'm going to really sort of just no way babe no no Darmann doesn't want to spend money on actors because he's got to make a living so you know he has his his little you know crew say for people that watch Darmann you you see the same actors in all different episodes. And they're playing a neat person. And then they're the nice person. And I think there's a range. And I'm sure they're decent, good actors.
Starting point is 00:09:48 I'm sure they're great human beings. You know what you say. Here's what it is. This is how I describe it. It's our generation. It's like an after school special. It is. It's the modern day after school special.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Hold on. Just give me a second. My food's here. Thank you. I had to take a bathroom break. I was explaining Darman and how it's like a modern day kind of after school special where there's a huge lesson and message that these actors are portraying and the kids get so sucked in and then so do we because they're they're over exaggerated so like remember where it used to be like for drunk driving yeah um you know this is your brand on drugs and like that kind of you key those episodes and that's basically what it is yeah but my point is is i get so locked into it like real will be watching on tv and i'll just sort of pass by and then you're And then 48 minutes later, I'm like watching 80 Darmann episodes.
Starting point is 00:10:42 I can't stop watching them. That's what I mean. I cannot stop watching them. Me too. So I'll be caught up on Darmann and you're cut up on White Lotus. Should we go back to that? A Zuna Fresh. I mean, honestly, after being in our houses for so much time over the last year,
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Starting point is 00:13:37 or try your first product for 15% off when you use code sibling at checkout. That's O-A-K-E-S-E-S-E-N-T-I-A-L-S dot com. promo code sibling. So I talked to Wilder today and I was on set working. And I was on my phone just messing around, news, Instagram, whatever. I like to click on Wilder's Instagram account. He's 14 and just sort of see what he's up to and, you know, who he's following or whatever. And I noticed that he had like 700 followers.
Starting point is 00:14:25 And I started to click on his followers. I haven't told you this yet. And I'm scrolling. I'm like, wait, he's not public. Exactly. I start scrolling around. I'm like, you know, who the hell is this? like a real estate agent from South Beach.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Who's, you know, this health nutrition. I was, it was, and so I texted him. And he actually switched it to public. But he did it. What? He did it. He didn't lie to me, you know, and I, because I said, you know how I feel about lying, which is a whole other topic because, you know, with my kids,
Starting point is 00:15:06 with our kids, I don't care. It's not that I don't care. I will not be upset if you tell me the truth. Whatever it is, you know what I mean? I don't care what it is. If you come to me or I ask you a question and you tell me the truth and I understand that kids lie, I did, you did. We all try to get away with shit, right?
Starting point is 00:15:27 But if you just tell me the truth, then you're good. You know, then I will. Of course, depending on what it is. Well, what could Wilder possibly tell you when he's being honest and truthful that you would actually get angry about? Just saying, I mean, look, who knows? Even if things, but I'm just saying right now, like he went public. No, I know, but I'll get back to that.
Starting point is 00:15:50 But even if Wilder came to us, right? And I said, have you smoked weed? Which, of course, he has not. But I'm saying, like, even if I said, have you smoked weed before? And he goes, and if he said, yeah, you know, I did, I tried it. Would you get angry? Absolutely not. But I'm just saying you don't know what he's going to come.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Who knows what the scenario could be? My point is that if you're truthful, you're good. And I think for us, it's about instilling that in our kids so then you can build that trust. So when you ask the questions, then you know that they're being truthful. You know, I still have a child brain. You know, it's like everything that he says or the kids say, I am analyzing and going back to when I was at a, agent being like me i used to say that even with you i was remember with the whole our whole situation and oh god say if if you're honest or you tell me there's a chance right right me like hearing it
Starting point is 00:16:48 right but you have to you have you have you have to adhere to that you know you have to show him that yes when he does tell the truth or when they the kids tell the truth there are no real repercussions because you were honest and we'll deal with whatever the situation is and the more that can be repeated than you build that trust and then you're off to the races and then you're good you know so you know i looked at it i said that and and he just told me straight up you know he said you know however long like a week or two weeks ago he went public you know just for a little bit and then um he sort of forgot about it and you know didn't pay attention to it and uh that was that and i said well why did you now he's private again but i said why did you go public i said is he because
Starting point is 00:17:33 you were wanting more followers and he says yeah you know at that point i said well you know that's empty you know what i mean you know the whole follower thing is just all bullshit really it's just a bunch of random people who are you know following you for reasons for him for me it might be a little bit different right but for him they're following you for reasons that don't really matter i mean what are you what are you getting out of it you know it's it's empty confidence really yeah and i was trying to explain to him how that is just it's there's no calories in it you know what i mean there's no health in that it's just it's frivolous really you know right but also explaining that like we understand that you know but for kids these days like that's
Starting point is 00:18:25 you know kids these days it's like it's like that social media is a really interesting question i know it's sort of a beat a you know a beat up topic meaning everyone talks about it and they have their opinions on it you know but it's a reality it's a reality in today's world you know it's like our kids were kind of the you know younger than when it really first started coming out you know so we didn't really have like when it was just a thing and everyone was talking about it and you know social media and this and that and now there are they're getting to that age yeah but it's how they communicate now i mean with snapchat especially that that's how they communicate they don't even really text much anymore it's just through these through social media you know um and you got to
Starting point is 00:19:15 i don't know i mean again it's the deprivation sort of it almost births you know this sort of desire this heavy desire to be a part of it if you can give it to them in doses meaning yeah you can you can be a part of social media but there's a way to be a part of it you know rather than just sort of cutting it off at the legs and having them wonder and become sort of obsessive over it to the point then then when they get it
Starting point is 00:19:47 it's like a drug addict you know who has not been given the drug and now they fucking overdose on it because they never had it before they Jones for it you know like sugar toddlers or TV and you know little kids. I mean, we've kind of always struck, you know, a balance with that with our kids. I mean, I think, again, I said this last time, but you have to kind of know who your kid is.
Starting point is 00:20:15 And, you know, each kid, each family is different. But our kids were, you know, balance worked, meaning like we gave it to them and then they weren't like freaking out and, you know, crying if we took away iPads or... Well, remember how Wilder? Remember how Wilder actually got Instagram for the first time? That was so good. It was so good.
Starting point is 00:20:43 So we were in Colorado and he wanted it for his birthday, right? Was it his birthday when he asked for Instagram for his birthday? Or was it Christmas? I can't remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it was his birthday. Yeah, he put it on his life. list he's like you know a fucking rc car and instagram and i'm like dude like you're too young
Starting point is 00:21:03 you know what i mean and this was what two years ago or something so he was i don't know 12 yeah and i said you're too young for instagram it's just it's just there's no reason why you need to be on it now some of his friends were on it you know but i was like there's no reason fine and i come home from whatever i was doing and he wrote me A five-paragraph essay, because this is what he was doing in school, learning how to sort of construct an essay with an intro, some body paragraphs, and then a conclusion. And so he wrote me a five-paragraph paper on why he should have Instagram.
Starting point is 00:21:48 And it was beautiful. It was fucking great, you know. He was talking about sort of how he was. wouldn't abuse it and it's just for him his friends and he would be you know private and you know all of these all of these arguments and I'm like dude you know what you're in you got it you know you you took the initiative to write this paper to take what you've learned in school and constructed into an essay and you know I dig that and so far so good like he doesn't he's not obsessed. It's going private, like secretly on us, but yeah, I mean, going public. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Well, look, you know, kids dabble, man. Like, I think that's what we have to understand as parents, too. We got to remember what it was like. You know, and you and I get into that, not get into it a little bit, but sometimes I feel like, you know, you forget sometimes and you expect the kids to be, not perfect but to walk this line and and i have to say babe like they're fucking kids they're going to do these things they're going to lie they're going to try to get away with shit that's normal if they weren't i might have a problem i'd be like dude go go go go go get in trouble go go try to get something by me i mean that's nature i think you know and sometimes i think you feel like they should be more on the straight path, you know?
Starting point is 00:23:20 I mean, no, I would say out of the two of us, I think that. And I think our kids are pretty, you know, amazing, you know, considering what they could be doing. And then, of course, I go back to our age. And I am very realistic with, you know, the stuff that I did and what they're doing. And, you know, a lot of times I say that to you. I'm like, they're smarter than we, than you think. You know, sometimes you're like, oh, Wilder would never. And I'm like, mm, don't say that.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Like, they're going to do it. But I just, that comes more to me when it's, I mean, I think I expect a little more when it comes to like safety and danger rather than, you know, kids being. No, I know, I know. I get that. But even, you know, I've been away and, and, you know, you've been dealing all three kids in the morning, which, you know, by the way. it's amazing i mean it's like up teenagers yeah it's crazy but but but you know i mean you're like they're not getting up and they did this and they're a lot on time and they're angry and then this i'm like i know babe but it's hard for me to say anything because i'm here you know sleeping in till
Starting point is 00:24:34 11 because my call's not till noon you know but um i know what you're saying at the same time it's like well what what do we expect here i mean Okay, so tell me this. So when you're the parent that's in it, and this goes back to like toddlers, babies, babies, like if you're home alone with the baby and the partner is out at work or away or whatever it might be, when you're in it, it's always heightened. So, and then you're talking to the parent that is away or has been at work all day and comes home, your patients, the one that's with the kids, is maxed out. And then the fresh parent comes in or the parent that hasn't been around them and misses them or whatever comes in. And they're like, relax.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Like they're just, you know, kids or oh my God, yeah, let me help. Like there's that role. You know what I mean? It reverses because you've been in the position where you're with the kids. And it's been three days and I'm away maybe with my girlfriends or, you know, I'm doing something. And your patience is up to here.
Starting point is 00:25:39 And you're like, I can't do this. And I'm over it. And you're quick and short and all that kind of stuff. And I'm like, babe, relax. take it easy on them. I mean, that's just, I think, a role, you know, that you're in in the moment. Like, I'm tired. I'm cranky.
Starting point is 00:25:54 I had to try and wake them up, you know, solo. You know, one's extra slow. One forgot something, whatever, all this stuff. And then I'm just venting to you being like, they stayed up too late and then they couldn't wake up. It's one of those. Of course, it's all relative. But, you know, when you're doing that next week for me, we'll see how.
Starting point is 00:26:14 goes. It'll be a weekend. So I'm good. No, but you make a good point. You make a good point. It's a valid point. You know, the parent who's been away sort of comes in and it's like, hey. crushed and patient and ready. And, you know, the other one is like, I've been with them all day. I remember it used to happen with the baby. Like Wilder is one baby. If you're taking care and I'm out, I come back in and you are like, oh my God, I'm done. And then it's like the trade, you know what I mean? I mean, that started with like babies and toddlers and, you know, it's going even to now. Like with you gone, it's the chaos.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Do you have any resentment towards me? For that, like thing? No, not at all because I know it's exactly what it is. But do you ever have any of that sort of, you know, resentment that comes up, but you know that, you know, it's fine. You're not going to bring it up because it's just your own. stuff. But you know, you're like a perfect human being, so it's impossible to know, honestly. Like you're just, you're so, you know, rational and centered and evolved.
Starting point is 00:27:32 You don't have those kinds of things, you know, where I have that irrational resentment. You know, we've had those discussions where I've had to get better when you want to go see your girlfriends and you want to have those weekends. and I grit and bear it or is it grin and bear it? I don't know. Grin. Grin.
Starting point is 00:27:52 And there's a part of me that's like, motherfucker, I think I know it's not right. You know, we've talked about it because you see my mood change. Of course. You know, when you are going away and I don't deny it.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Like there's a part of me that gets, you know, a little funky where I'm like, like, oh, man, I, you know. Right. And I always wonder, I'm just like, is it jealousy that, like, I'm going to have a good time without you? Or is it jealousy that, like, I'm going to have, I'm going to be away from the kids and you have the responsibility? Is it, you know what I mean? Like, what's in it there? Because I always. I don't know. That's a good question. You know, it's a lot of dads or husbands or partners, I'm sure, feel that way. Most of the time, it's wives that have, like, husbands that are going on a, you know, guys. trip or golf or something and they're not happy about it. But I am very much like, I love when you go and do your things and I know you're happy and then you're going to come back happy. I like a little bit of my alone time too. So like, you know what I mean? There's that stuff. But I also feel like very deserving of the time that I take when I go. So I don't really, you know, well, you should know, you don't have guilt. No.
Starting point is 00:29:14 there's no way you have guilt i mean i you're that's why our relationship is so great you know because you let me do the things that i love to do and and you know i let you do the things that you love to do even if i have a little tinge of whatever which goes which is honestly like dissipated over the years you know but i think i just want to be with you it's simple i like when you're around sorry i love that too you know and i also think to be real you know in a relationship you get the good and you get the bad you know you get the really happy moments and then you get the sort of downside of whatever that is you know whatever moods are happening and the fatigue and kids and school and whatever the fuck it is and i know that when you go with
Starting point is 00:30:02 your friends they're getting the best of you every second is the best of you and i've seen it change you know i've seen you go from moments of just when you get that you know you do your face and you're just you know pissy mood and you're just like tired and then and then i'm like you know i can tell like it exudes you exude it i can feel it and then jacky calls and it's like oh my god jackie and it's like boom it's like a different human being and i'm like oh what the fuck you know and i get it i don't ever comment on it because it's not um Do comment on it. We've talked about this before.
Starting point is 00:30:43 No, but I don't comment on it in the moment, meaning I'm not like, you get off the phone, I'm like, how come she gets all the positive stuff and you or this and this and that? Because I'm smart enough to understand that it's your girl, you know? It's like there's a release there. And also don't forget,
Starting point is 00:30:58 because I'm sure people feel the same way. We're using mine as like, you know, a girl's weekend away, but a girl's weekend away is a break from all of the same. stuff, right? People, whatever, they're getting away from work, housework, kids, responsibility, delegating, cleaning projects, things, whatever it might be for me, for other people, taking care of people, whatever it might be, you're going to a place that is, for me, with my girlfriends,
Starting point is 00:31:26 that are moms, it's a, oh, my God, we're not needed. No, mom, mom, mom, babe, babe, you know what I'm It's like, it's like, of doing nothing. How much, how many times do you be heard this? Like, Aaron! Who? Yeah. Aaron! And then there's.
Starting point is 00:31:49 And there's, and there's, all day long. And there's, mom. I mean, you know, it's like, oh, but the best. And it's like, it's a relief of like, oh my gosh, I'm not needed. I don't have to feed people. I don't have to keep people alive. My children are safe.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I can go. like literally decompress. But sometimes I feel like you hear me and ignore me. Well, I'm also like part deaf in one ear. Don't forget. So. No, I know. But sometimes I feel like you hear me and ignore me.
Starting point is 00:32:17 But the best is when you're, the best is when you're, you get angry. You get angry. When you hear me, you go like, Aaron! Or whatever. And then there's always a pause. It's never right away. And then I hear, what? I mean, like.
Starting point is 00:32:35 It gets angry. I'm like, oh, Jesus, she's, like, angry. Because I'm like upstairs around a corner. And when I say what, you don't hear me the first time. So now I'm like, I'm walking to get over to him. But by the time I get to where I can yell to you, you're yelling again. So then I'm mad. And I'm like, you know.
Starting point is 00:32:53 But babe, I just need to know where my wallet is. It's simple. 100%. I just need to answer with that from now on. Just where it is. I never know where my wallet is. is. It's running
Starting point is 00:33:07 wallet sunglasses like keys in wallet sunglasses forget it I know. I know. Home economics.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Okay. So there was lots going on this spring and you can be forgiven maybe if you've missed some things. But if you missed the ABC hit comedy home economics, you better catch up now.
Starting point is 00:33:39 It's a hilarious show at 82% on Rotten Tomatoes with critics saying it hits all the right comedic notes. So here's the situation, okay? It's about three adult siblings with families on their own and each with wildly different economic situations. From mega rich to middle class to just getting by. And TV guide says American Vandals Jimmy Tatro, Bluff City Laws, Caitlin McGee, and that 70 show vet Tofer Grace, who have known forever and wish he put me in his show, they kill it as siblings. Plus, add Carlos Sousa from How to Get Away with Murder.
Starting point is 00:34:15 And S&L's Sashir Zemeta to the cast. And this is a comedy you've got to check out. All of season one is streaming on Hulu, and season two airs Wednesday, 9.30, 30, Central, after the Conner's on ABC. So definitely check it out and tell your siblings about it, too. watch it together and work through your own sibling rivalry or revelry this breakout hit show could be your breakthrough moment with finally understanding each other or just a half an hour where you can laugh and not have to deal with your brother or sister's issues of the week nobody has time for that right
Starting point is 00:34:48 just laugh together and watching home economics after the conners wednesday 9.38 30 central on abc then hug it out or drive home with your significant other venting about your siblings whatever your relationship is and just being happy, you at least had some laughs watching home economics. Any, you know, person can understand when you are removed from, let's say, work or your family life and getting that break is you do change your personality because you're like, oh, I'm going to my girlfriends. Like there's not a dirty sink there. And 17 loads of laundry and, like, you know, emails and delegating and kids crying and I have to feed people, I'm going to literally, like, not do any of that. And it makes, and then you're laughing with
Starting point is 00:35:39 your, you know, it's just, it's like when you used to leave the baby, you know, I've got like one crying and one not sleeping and then you would go golf, you're not going to tell me getting out there if all of a sudden I had a, you know, fly on the wall of you on the golf course, like drinking beers, laughing with your friends. And I'm home with like two kids. What the fuck? That mother. fuckers out there having a good time. Of course you are because you're not having to be dad and I'm not telling you to change light bulbs and like clean shit. Like it's your time away. We all deserve it. It's just hard to be the person on the other end. You just have to make sure that you both have the time away, whatever that might be. For some people, it's a workout, a meditation.
Starting point is 00:36:24 We talked about this before. You know, just something that is like for you. And it doesn't, it can be something alone, it can be with your friends, it could be with someone else, like, you know. It's also about respecting each other's individuality, you know what I mean? And there need to be alone or need to be separate because I think we get so involved with each other. I'm speaking generally, not just you and I, but just involved with what our lives are that when there's that separation of one doing something without the other and having a good time. there can be that moment of like oh what the fuck you know but that's but that's but that's but that's healthy you know it's like you know it's like i've said this before you know two pillars holds up a roof much stronger than one and that's codependency you know if you're codependent you've got that
Starting point is 00:37:23 one fucking pillar and that roof is now sitting on that one pillar and teetering and we'll eventually fall and crash. If you've got the two pillars holding up that roof, that shit is sturdy, you know, and we are individuals. So we need to have our own separate passions and loves and to be accepting of the others, you know, and it's important. I think what, again, it's, you know, every relationship is different, every partnership, but I think what can happen, is if it doesn't feel equal and somebody is really carrying the bigger load, that's where a little resentment can build up. So that's very easy to happen. I think we've all been pretty solid in our roles, right, of being, you know, it's a great partnership and equal in the parenting
Starting point is 00:38:23 and, you know, all of that kind of stuff. So, you know, if somebody works all week long and then also wants to, you know, be having their time. It's like, all right, well, where's the time for your kids? Where's the time for us? I mean, it's always about time and there's never enough. But I think it's also about effort and not, you know, quality over quantity. I think so. I think secretly people use the credit system.
Starting point is 00:38:50 You know what I mean? It's like you build up credit. You know, you're like, you're building up credit right now. I'm away. I've been away for, what, five or six? days and you're building a fucking credit like you know i'm not there so now you've got this awesome credit they're like all right when am i going robin's coming into town yeah robin's coming into town robin's coming into town and you're going to fucking cash in on that credit and i'm like
Starting point is 00:39:14 all right yeah hey shit you know and then when when i'm home and not working and you do a girl's weekend or whatever i'm like all right cool credit but by the way i will say this too as much as i love you and as much as I love being with you all the time when you are away with your girlfriends and it's just me and the kids, I love it. There's something nice about it. When the kids are doing their thing and they go to bed
Starting point is 00:39:43 and I'm in our bed all alone and I light up a big joint and I'm just like, all right, like I got my room to myself. I'm chilling. You know, like there's, I like it. It's great. As long as you come home.
Starting point is 00:40:01 But I love, I mean, sometimes, like, when you're away and you're working and it's just me, like, I don't have to worry about, you know, other things that are going on. I can just, like, manage the kids. I can feed them, you know, some mac and cheese, make myself a bowl of pasta. Yeah. That's a good question. I have a question for you. What are we having for dinner?
Starting point is 00:40:24 Yeah. No, I know. And so here's my question. what are the benefits of me being away like what and be honest i go to sleep earlier like what yeah okay you got it yeah i go to sleep much earlier um and the house is maybe a little bit cleaner oh are you saying i'm messy really not messy but like messy but like messy no but just like your side of the bed and the clothes around and the coffee you know there's just a little extra stuff in a way to be taken care of and you know the baseball hats and the golf things and a little stuff like that i would say golf teas and divot replacers and the morning next to your bed random coins i feel like i keep it a little cleaner but other than you know maybe going to bed
Starting point is 00:41:26 earlier, I would 100% prefer you here any day. Of course. No, I know that, but I'm saying. Sometimes I love, like, there is no TV on and it's like, oh, I can do wordscapes or I'm going to read or because, you know, a lot of our hang time is at night and it's the best. It's like the kids go down. That's us, whether it's talking, show, sex, but hanging out. Like, but it is that late night hour.
Starting point is 00:41:51 So when you're not there and I get into bed, I go to bed when the kids go to bed. So it's kind of like, I know. Well, that's where we differ, you know. You're a night owl. I'm a night owl. I'm a night owl. You know, and you are not. So I'm ready to party and you are fucking six feet under.
Starting point is 00:42:11 I'm so ready to like snuggle. I know. That's what I think God. We have a lot of like daytime situation and we're lucky for that. But you mean sex? Yeah, I just meant. Yeah. I mean.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Yeah. I mean like in L.A. I like daytime sex. I like, you know, school session sex. It's good. But I like nighttime sex. I love nighttime just because of the lighting and it's just so much better. Well, that's all other, that's all other topic of conversation is sex lighting because it matters.
Starting point is 00:42:49 You know what I mean? Where I'm like fucking put the lights on. But I will say, though, that when the lighting is. like not only lights but you want like a window with sunshine like literally shining in to like like a you know gymecological exam no i know i know but i think i've changed now i like i like the candle i like the flicker yeah why did it change because me no no no i just are you getting insecure now about your body We'll say I've always been about the lighting And then I do remember semi recently One night you being like, oh yeah
Starting point is 00:43:27 Like it's all about like the candles and the angles And then I'm performing a little bit better because Well exactly And that's what happens is it's if you feel secure and comfortable Then everything is better you know what I mean That's so true No but it's sexy it's creating it's creating the sexy mood Which you know which happens
Starting point is 00:43:47 but a lot of the times is that daytime that's fun though well when the kids go to school and all of a sudden it's like yeah that's fun i'm not going to lie but you know no i know i know yeah but the candlelight's good i like the flicker you know of the candlelight but sometimes the candles will be too far away you know and then i'll be like i'm going to move this candle on my nightstand so i can see a little bit more I don't like not to see. You know what I mean? As I said, I'm a visual person.
Starting point is 00:44:22 And so that's part of it. You know what I mean? Like if it's pitch dark, I'm like, what's happening right now? I want to see my wife. We should save this for like a sex episode because now I think it's getting a little too. What? Detailed. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Oh my gosh. Babe. We're going to have our own podcast. the way, for those of you listening right now, Aaron and I are launching our own podcast. We don't know when yet, but it's happening. Coming up with names, I think I found a good one, not going to reveal it quite yet. But, yeah, we're going to get after it because I have too much fun with you doing this, honestly. You know, whether people like it or not, great. But it's fun to just talk to you with a microphone in my face honestly it's weird things come out you you
Starting point is 00:45:19 you get a little bit more honest you know you are able to reveal things that in normal conversation you kind of don't so it's an experience not only for the listener but also maybe for us it's kind of fun i love it well you're good at it i mean everyone loves you about what you're going to say. What? I said I get a little bit nervous about what you're going to say, but... Yeah, but that's part of it. I keep you on your toes.
Starting point is 00:45:52 You do. We'll come into a close, but where are the kids right now? The kids? Yeah, are they in their rooms? Oh, ours? No, what do you mean ours? No, Milo and Gio. It was just with Jen last night.
Starting point is 00:46:12 No, that's so funny. Actually, Rio and Wilder are here, but Bodie is up at Bings. Oh, still? Okay. I didn't have, we were doing this. I couldn't get stuck in traffic. Yeah, I know, I know. Late, so I got to go get it.
Starting point is 00:46:30 All right. Well, that little 28 seconds was a bit of a window into, like, real life. All right, poop. Well, I love you. Two more days. I love you. I miss you. I'll see you. I'll see you very soon.
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