Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Extra! Extra! With Derek Hough

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

Dancing with the Stars Judge Derek Hough can do the jitterbug with his eyes closed, but the dad-to-be jitters is a whole other story!  Derek and Oliver bond over their shared roles as husbands, brothers and, coming soon, over-protective fathers. How will he juggle everything with his new gig as the host of Extra!? Plus, hear what it was like to grow up with all girls, and what he’s really thinking when he’s dishing out scores on the DWTS leaderboard!  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years, until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls, came forward with a story. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And to binge the entire season ad-free,

subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. I had the incredible opportunity to sit down with the one, the only, Cardi B. My marriage, I felt the love dying. I was crying every day. I felt in the deepest depression that I had ever had. This shit was not given to me. I worked my ass off for me.

Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Introducing IVF disrupted, the Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. It grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patience. You think you're finally, like, in the right hands. You're just not. Listen to IvyF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight. And so I pointed the gun at him and said this isn't a joke.

A man who robbed a bank when he was 14 years. years old. And a centenarian rediscovers a love lost 80 years ago. How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again? Listen to heavyweight on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the 1980s, modeling wasn't just a dream. It was a battlefield. It's a freaking war zone. These people are animals. The Model Wars podcast appeals back.

the glossy cover and reveals a high-stakes game where survival meant more than beauty. Hosted by me, Vanessa Grigoriatis, this is the untold story of an industry built on ruthless ambition. Listen to Model Wars on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something. thing that highlighted our relationship and what it's like to be siblings we are a sibling reverie no no sibling reverie don't do that with your mouth sibling revelry that's good all right and reporting live from Rules of Engagement.

No, this show is called Sibling Revelry. I'm not going to do much of a preamble here because I'm all preampled out. No. Because we've got Derek Huff waiting. In the waiting room. I've known the man for a minute now. He's a good man.

He's a handsome man. He's a host. He's a dad. He's a husband. He's the number one judge on DW2S Dancing with the Stars. I think that's how to say it. He works with his sister.

There's a lot to talk about. Just bring a man. Let's get to this shit. Yo. What up? What's up, dude? How are you, man? How's it going?

I'm good, man. Oh, good, good. We finally made it happen. I'm happy. Thank you for coming on, dude. Thanks, brother. I appreciate you, man. But you've been well, man.

You're fucking killing it right now. Dude, I'm just, you know, I'm just doing what I can, man. I know. I know. I'm with you. I know. I'm with you. Yeah.

Before I have this. baby and I'm like and then it's all going to change no I know I know I know the hustle is real yeah you're doing extra right now you're the judge on dancing with the stars right this is what we're doing now yes that's right and your sis is hosting that's right yeah so she's ever get sick of each other I mean you know it's like you're together all the time you're doing shit all the time my sister and I the same you know do the show all the time but is it ever like all right Joel's like, let's just take a break. Yeah.

You know what's funny, actually? It's weird because we actually, we like never see each other actually. You don't. No, we really don't. We literally see each other on set for like what you see on TV. We don't see each other. She's off in her hosting world over there. The judges are over here.

So we actually don't even interact when we're on the show. There's a few moments where we do like a few selfies or something during the show. but we like actually never see each other so it's kind of funny yeah but we also we kind of give each other like little uh you know uh uh i don't know kind of riz each other a little bit you know yeah yeah rads each other that's the wrong word but no the riz is a whole different word yeah yeah it's those different riz yeah yo yo she's got riz or he's got ris as as i'm learning i'm trying to keep up man i'm trying to give up well you're so this is number one this is your baby your baby's number one man

this is number one's crazy i know i can't believe it 40 years old and i'm just like starting so good for you though yeah man i'm excited how many do you have i have three they just came home as my dogs are barking i'm like i'm like buried in my you know you're in every house there's a room it's supposed to be a room of some kind but it turns into a storage room yes you know there's shit everywhere yeah and so when my kids come home you know i've got nowhere to go I've got nowhere to go. So now I'm in the storage room. But yeah, I have 18, I have 15, and I have 12.

Amazing, man. That's incredible. That's amazing, man. It's nutty. How are you feeling? How's it feel? I feel good. It's funny.

Like, I feel like, sometimes I'm like, you know, I'm doing things. And then I look over and I see my pregnant wife, her beautiful belly is starting to pop crazy. Her belly button just yesterday. I just noticed it started to kind of like spread out a little bit. the other, you know, going the other way, and I was like, whoa. You know, felt the baby kick. Actually, the first time I felt the baby kick, we were watching F1 in the movie theater. And it was really loud.

I was like, man, it was maybe okay. And Haley was like, hey, chill. And, you know, the baby's like, hey, keep it down out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was, it's amazing, man. I'm excited about it. I'm excited. Oh, I bet.

I bet. Do you have any fear? Honestly, like, is there any fear or is it just kind of like, you know what? I'm going to roll with it. No, like, here's a thing. As I've gotten older, I've realized that I'm a worrier. I worry. And I never really considered myself like that.

But after Haley had her brain surgery, I think it just amplified everything a little bit, where I'm a little bit more like cautious, you know, there was a moment when we're about to go on tour, the day that we're about to go back out. in tour after she you know 40% of her skull is missing you know she's got this massive plate in her head she wasn't supposed to survive we're about to go on tour we're dancing together i'm already a nervous wreck and i just hear a boom in the shower and she had full slipped back and fell in the shower and i look over and she's like this and she's like it's okay i caught myself and i'm like and it's weird that moment kind of just is like this um to this day when i get out of the shower

i like squeeze you the floor make sure there's no soap or conditioner on it but i'm like already like paranoid about that so now i'm like okay with a child yeah i have 20 25 nieces and nephews and i am like you know covering corners you've done it yeah no you you you've done it right you've done the nieces and the nephews you know you know You know, but there's always, the first one's always nutty because you just wanted to survive. You know what I mean? It's just like, holy shit, what am I doing, you know, in the infant stages anyway? And I remember with Wilder, my first one, you're just so, you know, there's a paranoia, there's love and there's paranoia.

It's all mixed, all emotions are just mixed together. You know, you're going in there every night, like making sure the kid is breathing. Oh, my God. And then by the third one, it's just kind of like, man. Okay, okay. I'm sure she'll be fine. I'm sure she'll be fine, you know. Yeah, you got this. You got this. Yeah. Well, I mean, luckily, like, you know, we have a lot of friends and a lot of people who are like, okay, this is what you need. You need like, you know, if you need like to sleep a little bit more night nurse thing. Yeah. Yeah. Which is amazing because I think back to like, you know, my parents, our parents, I'm sure. Yeah. I mean, my mom had five kids. I'm like, oh, a night nurse. Like, what is that? You know? And, you know, so I feel fortunate that we're able to. And, you know, I feel fortunate that we're able to. to find a little bit of maybe some relief we'll see but i think i'm still going to be up like freaking of course of course so with your wife man that's crazy that's right i forgot about that when that shit went down i mean that is a scary scary moment for you guys um what was it how do

how was it even recognized we were on stage we were on stage in front of 4,000 people um and we were at the end of the show and she just was kind of doing this with her eye like she's kind of like squinting she's like uh and then she starts like she's you know audibly was making discomfort you know noises like like and i thought it was her neck because you know this is like uh yeah yeah and so i'm protecting her neck as we're dancing and we're just kind of keep moving forward and you know she must go on kind of thing and just protecting her and then we're supposed to come out for this moment and uh she didn't come out and i was like that's weird. And the stage manager says she's not coming out.

I was like, okay. And then I just, you know, you're in front of this audience, so you're just kind of like talking insane things. And the irony of it all was that in that moment I'm talking about a friend of mine that passed away and I'm talking about how fragile and precious life is and how it's fleeting and, you know, that we cherish the ones that we love. And meanwhile, she's literally dying on the side of the stage. Like actually in that moment, like it was that bad. It was that acute that she was at that point having seizures and she doesn't remember anything. She was on stage and then she's, you know, all this crazy, scary stuff happened, the ambulance, rush into hospitals, all these different things.

And here's a crazy fact, actually, later on, first of all, the doctor was like, you know, it's not good. It's very severe. and even if she survives because it's that bad, she probably isn't going to be the same person that you know because this kind of brain bleed, this kind of swelling paralysis, speech impairment, you know, all these different things. So basically, you've lost the person that you knew.

And we just got married, by the way, three months before that. But the crazy story about this, you know, fortunately she's here. Everything was good. We had these amazing triumphs. But, you know, I talked about that time because, It was like the hardest time and one of the best times ever because all of a sudden everything gets kind of wiped clean and all of a sudden her getting up to go to the bathroom was like the best day of my life. You know what I mean? It was like this is the best day of my life.

And then her like walking up the stairs was like the biggest triumph I've ever felt. So there's all these amazing like triumphs that you experience and the simplest of things. and then working her way back out to get on stage. But the crazy thing was, Will Fass was when we're at the theater, we had a decision to make. There's a hospital 10 minutes away in Washington, D.C., and there was a hospital 35 minutes away. Obviously, we're like, let's go to the closest hospital, because this is bad.

She's something's not good. And her eyes were dilated. One was huge, one was pinpoint, so it was either a stroke or something brain-related. So we, in that moment, we decided to go to the further hospital that was more about brain, but we didn't know. And basically down the line, about six months later, the doctor told me, he said, if you would have went to the other hospital, she would have, she would have died. Really? Yeah. And because they didn't have, they didn't have the resources.

They didn't have the right things to do the emergency surgery. And by the time they got her somewhere, it would have been too late. So it's like, it's like things. It's like things like that. Was it an aneurism? No, we actually, we don't know exactly what happened, really, but we think we do. At the beginning of that show, we actually hit heads really hard. Okay.

But we've hit heads hard before. There was nothing out of the ordinary, but we did, but our bells were wrong. Yeah. And we both were kind of looking at each other. But we think that's what it was because that's the kind of, you know, the hematone. moment it was as it could impact it wasn't like so luckily in a way luckily it was that because that means we know what happened and it's not going to happen again all of a sudden yeah wow what an experience man what an experience you know i mean it's so interesting going back to what you said

which is usually you know the person who goes through that situation um and has to sort of relearn to walk or those small victories that you're talking about and life becomes clear and perspective starts to sort of show itself in a beautiful way it's usually attributed to the person who would happen to but we don't really hear about sort of the loved ones you know and how you yourself had that moment as well meaning your perspective change things shifted for you you know life was sort of like you said the slate was wiped clean and and it was like wow it's these small things now that matter yeah yeah i mean it's it was uh you know she she talked about this because she basically was on stage she blinked and then she woke

in the hospital like what happened missing half her skull and head shaved and you know face swelled up was unrecognizable and 70 staples in her head and and so she missed she essentially missed like this the scary part if you will you know and so um she actually we actually by the way we actually filmed the documentary about this uh you did and we just actually submitted it to sundance like three days ago amazing but a good friend of mine his name is uh uh jason berg you know he's like amazing director does documentaries and he uh when he started to go to dance again he's like can i come film this the process good for dancing again and so anyway we ended up doing it we went back on tour she got back out on stage it was this beautiful

like triumphant moment it was really beautiful and but um but she really honestly like the way she moved to this whole thing was unbelievable man she put the smile on her face there was no like poor me it was just this is my new reality this is what it is and uh she was really strong for us you know it's crazy so how long was it before she recovered before like incident and then recovery and she's dancing again. Well, that was the miraculous part. The doctor was like, it's going to take four or five months to just get the implant in because your brain is so swelled up.

They had to leave the skull off for a while. Well, he said it was going to be for a while. Yeah. And she literally looked at him and she was like, I'm going to do it in two weeks. He's like, uh-huh, okay, you know, it's going to take three months at least. All right. Dude, two weeks of the day, we took the helmet off and he gasped. He went, he was, like, looking at her, like, confused, like, wait, what?

Because obviously the skull can caves. Yeah. And she's got this massive crater in her head, you know, now. Yeah. The brain has come down. And he goes, oh, my God, I can't believe this. And he said, I said, well, what do you think? Can we operate, you know, tomorrow?

He goes, no, I said, can we operate today? Joe, he goes, how about tomorrow? I was like, oh, shoot. So from the incident to her back on stage was four months. Wow. wow that's crazy yeah it was pretty extraordinary and i by the way going back to being a warrior yeah yeah that i was i was like yeah yeah she's got like a full like NFL helmet on and pads you're like she's like i don't want to wear this and like i don't care you're wearing this

eagle's helmet but by the way that that's also the problem though is because if you're apprehensive and if you're you're focusing on what's going to go wrong you're it's going to go wrong because where your focus goes your energy flows and like you're focusing the wrong things and I was like she told me that she goes baby you have to you have to come you have to like trust me and I was like oh okay okay yeah yeah so oh wow yeah crazy dude crazy crazy crazy but amazing you know really I mean to have gone through something like that I mean even just as far as just a relationship goes in the depth where you think you think you're you think you're deep and then you just you can dig even deeper with something like that it's just yeah no man it was it was it was a we were able to

watch this documentary um last week at uta this like screening room and it was like it was really beautiful you know it was really cool to watch just to sit back and be like whoa that was that actually happened and then to think now about our our child you know on on its way and thinking like wow they get to see this moment in mom and dad's life you know yeah it's pretty Cool. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure.

I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place will stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm character and a little local. flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host.

All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved, until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her. We know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people, and that got the same. citizen investigator on national TV. Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.

My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer, and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her, or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that you all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I pour gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.

America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or we're ever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. I had the incredible opportunity to sit down with the one, the only, Cardi B.

My marriage, I felt the love dying. I was crying every day. I felt in the deepest depression. that I had ever had. How do you think you're misunderstood? I'm not this evil, mean person that people think that I am. I'm too compassionate.

I have sympathy for that I fuck my man. Put so much heart and soul into your work. What's the hardest part for you to take that criticism? This shit was not given to me. I worked my ass off for me. Even when I was a stripper, I'm gonna be the best pole dancer in here. When was the moment you felt I did it?

I still, to this day, don't feel comfortable. I fight every day to keep this level of success because people want to take it from you so bad. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing.

Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present. IVF disrupted. The Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care. Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands. to find out again that you're just not.

Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted, the kind body story, starting September 19 on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight, I help a centenarian mend a broken heart.

How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again? And I help a man atone for an armed robbery he committed at 14 years old. And so I pointed the gun at him and said this isn't a joke. And he got down. And I remember feeling kind of a surge of like, okay, this is power. Plus, my old friend Gregor and his brother tried to solve my problems through hypnotism. We could give you a whole brand new thing where you're like super charming all the time. Being more able to look to people in the eye.

Not always hide behind a microphone. Listen to Heavyweight on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So where'd you grow up again? Utah. You grew up in Utah. Utah, man, yeah. And you had multiple siblings. Four sisters grew up in Utah.

Yeah. Only boy. You know. Where'd you? Where were you in the pecking order? Three older sisters, myself, and then Julianne was the youngest, yeah. Okay. Yeah, it was cool, man.

Surrounded by women. Completely surrounded by women. Honestly, like, I found as I got older, I was like, I find it really hard to talk to guys. Like, I'm, it's so much easier to, like, I don't know why. I think growing up a environment, I was like, oh, talking to a, yeah, yeah, yeah. I talked to a guy and like, how do I do this? All right. Football, I don't know.

That's funny. know, I wonder, how do you think that actually sort of affected you? You know, I mean, you grew up with a bunch of sisters. Like, for a while, I just had mom and Kate, his dad was out of the picture and Kurt wasn't there yet. So there was a lot of feminine energy sort of in my early life. And I, you know, I can sort of attribute some of my personality to that and just the way that I, my, I don't know, maybe some sensitivities, maybe just some empathy. I don't know what, but. I wonder if you can recognize any part of you that's like, oh, well, this is just because I grew up around 800 chicks. Yeah, so many.

I think from me, later as I got, you know, older actually, you know, I realized, as you start to learn about certain, like, you know, feminine energy and masculine energy and all these different types of things, modalities and stuff, I realized that I definitely lived in my, I'll actually live more in my feminine energy, if you will, which I think served me really well in certain forms of, you know, art and, you know, dancing, creativity and, um, however, it's funny about dancing, dancing actually, like, I feel, I, it was the way I, like, stepped into, like, my masculine energy, the way I felt super connected to my body. Like, like, you know, if you don't play in sports or something like that,

you just feel like, hey, like you just connected to something. Yeah. But as I got older, I was like, oh, interesting. like and I would generally notice it until this guy came into my life it was my sister's husband and he just was like a dude he was just a dude because I was always around like artists and like creatives and he was like fish yeah lift weights yeah and it was there was something like just like refreshing about like oh dang I think I've like I need to like balance this out a little bit and just do some like just stuff that isn't like in the world of like creating an art or

I just need to like do some just some stuff that just just connected to that to get back into that masculine energy a little bit more and then to just some it's more balanced what did you do did you actually seek out like masculine endeavors I mean it's not like it's like it's not like binary it's like this is masculine right but but it did I did feel a sense of like you know um i don't know it's like to do things that like just felt more grounded i suppose because i can get really like you know up here and you know like in this creative space constantly and it's like to turn it off i got like do something that's just like disconnect for that you know yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no that's interesting no i know i know i know

know what you mean you know it's just sort of rooting yourself a little bit more in it's almost just quieting your mind sometimes too you know yeah and are you a nature dude totally totally yeah yeah i love the outdoors i mean growing up in utah yeah that's what i figured yeah i love i love mountains and that's that's the thing that really like keeps me still and then i lived in london for 10 years so i kind of you did it's like city city kid i went to school there And then I went back to Utah. I was like, oh, shit, Utah is freaking gorgeous.

Yeah. I didn't know I didn't realize where I was growing up. This is amazing, you know. What were you doing living in London? 12 years old to 22. Were you dancing? Yeah, I moved in with my coaches, a dance coach. You did?

Yeah, and moved out there by myself. At the age of 10, you were by yourself. Like 12, yeah. And Julianne was 9. She went out at 9, 10 years old. And then, but we moved in with the family. Mark Ballas was on Dancing with Stars as well. He was, we moved in with him and his family, his mom and dad.

How does that work, man? Like, you're so young. I mean, your parents. How do you? Yeah. How do you do that? Because they have to raise other children as well, right? Well, you know, it was such a, it was such a unique time because my, my parents were

right, getting a divorce right in that moment. And so the house kind of was like this, like, it just kind of started to disjoint a little bit. Yeah. So we're kind of floating around a little bit and all. this opportunity came and then all of a sudden we had like school and we had goals we had competitions we had lessons we had this like sort of like regiment and like we want to become a champion so that consistency and that I don't know um it just it just helped us as young kids you know

yeah so that's where we really crafted and we formed that like dancing core for so many years um and then and honestly I thank my mom and dad because that was hard. It was hard to let us go. It was only supposed to be for like a few months. And then we ended up loving it. And then they're like, all right, time to come home. And I was like, no. Oh, really? Yeah, you're like, no, we're staying. I'm staying. Yeah. I was like, I'm about to. I have this competition come up. I got to train.

I got to be here and do this. And for 10 years, it was like this fight to, I wanted to stay. And they wanted me to come home because they're like, can I raise you? You're my child. You know, right. And now, now when I see my nieces and nephews, I was like, I was that young. I was 12 years old. Yeah. My daughter's 12, you know, I mean, I can't even imagine. I mean, I would be, I would be crushed.

Yeah. And so I actually have a lot of, like, later in life, I just have a lot of, like, empathy and appreciation for the sacrifice that, you know, they both had. And, you know, to allow that, you know, essentially because it was. a big sacrifice you know yeah no my daughter is obsessed with dance you know it's her first their first year she's on the team dance team at her at her school and so she's dancing like six days a week you know two two or three of the days are like three hours you know it's all different kinds of dance it's from balleted lyrical to jazz to hip hop the whole thing and so she'll start competing in november but she's just obsessed and she's so beautiful her body so beautiful she's so long and

And it's just like, I mean, it's for me, the pride that you have is just unbelievable and to watch her and how graceful and amazing she is. I love that, Matt. By the way, what's so great about dance was so great about dance. And I'll say this again in a class when teaching in class. I'm like, it doesn't matter if like, you know, there'll be some people, there'll be, you know, kids in a class and some this is like what they want to do. This is a career. And now they'll take that path. And then some, this will be a chapter in the life.

And then they'll be a lot of different things. but it's never, ever, ever, ever wasted because the discipline, the awareness, all these things that you learn, you will take with you for the rest of your life, no matter what. So I always encourage, you know, dance. Oh, yeah. You know what I love most, too? I love how, I love how strict these teachers are.

Yeah. It's like the only place now, because I think we're just being coddled to death, you know, just generally. Sure. But it's the only place now where, like, that discipline, it's stern, it's like, you know, Rio's in the car doing her hair with the hair spra because it's ballet. And if hair's out of place, they get mad at you. I mean, you know, not overly crazy, but I'm saying there's a discipline there.

It's like, get your shit together. You know, girls, this isn't working. You're not practicing enough. It's not working out. It's, you have to be better. Yeah. I think it's great, man. I think having that guidance, like you said, I love what you said out.

too because it is true we're sort of in this sort of you know this sort of like interesting phase or balance of like okay what's too hard what's too strict but what's not strict enough like it's like finding that right balance but i think that it is it is important to have that sort of standard and those like sort of like perimeters to work within this confined because i feel like you know if it just becomes I'm all about encouraging I'm all about like sure supporting up living but

of course but that but that but I look back at my my teaching and my time I'm like it was the times when I was like taken to the corner

being like hey you better and told off that's when I was like oh and I figured it out you know of course but by the way it's also because you're that good like you're too good

to just wait to just fuck off essentially you know yeah yeah no that's awesome I love that man I love it. Yeah. No, it's great. It's fun. It's fun for me, too. It's just my only kid who's actually regimented in some sort of athletics and do a sport. You know, my boys are, they down, they ski, they downhill mountain bike. They're on dirt bikes, you know, motorcycles, this, this and that. They're heavily into golf now. But it's all individual stuff. Right. They didn't want to play team. You know, there was no competition. And so she's my, she's my first and only one now that is competing. And, you know, she has that sort of fire. When you say competing, is it a part of the school team competition? No, no, it's outside of school.

It's a studio, yeah. Oh, so did you go to a convention? Yeah, she went to a convention last weekend. She was at a convention car. Got you, got you, cool, cool. All right, awesome. Now, the reason why I say that, because I'm literally about to launch a convention competition. Oh, you are?

In December. Yeah, it's called Ovation. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, so it's sort of the first, It's going to be like a sort of a fusion convention competition with like contemporary hip-hop, ballroom and Latin. Where are you doing it? We're doing seven cities the first year.

First ones in Chicago in December. Yeah. And then we'll do like, you know, Miami and New York. And then, of course, Anaheim, California. And then San Diego. That's where Rio is in Anaheim for this car thing. Yeah. Well, dude, you guys should come down.

It's really, it's giving me really, really, really. Oh, yeah. Tali Fabia. You know Robbie Blue, who's done, like, the Gap commercial? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He just wanted an Emmy and a VMA. He's one of the teachers as well. Yeah. Oh, dude, sick.

It's pretty sick, yeah. Oh, fun. Yeah, man. It's so great, dude. Yeah, great, great work. I will, I will, for sure. So, so what, how do you get off on dancing? You know what is it?

What is the thing? you know i mean i kind of understand because you know singing moving your body i mean there's something that is special about that you know there's something that's exhilarating about it but like what how does it still give you a boner you know like what is that thing where you're just like god damn and i just love it so much i mean i'm gonna be honest with me man um it's it's it's i have an interesting relationship with dance you know now in a way because you know you know here's the thing as it's evolving it's evolving yeah yeah um because when I competed as a dancer I loved it but it was very much like I was training and but I

will say this I will say this as like the thing that I love most about it is when I'm actually dancing performing like I go on tour and I'm dancing yeah I truly feel like the most it sounds cheesy like yeah connected I feel connected to myself yeah Because I do have a busy-ass brain, my brain, but when I'm just dancing and the music and the music syncs up and your body sync up together and they're doing this, they're like doing this, you just like, you start, I don't sound silly, but like I just like start like hitting things hard and strong and then I'm here. I mean to shape myself. Yeah. You feel the bass. You feel the drums hit it.

All of that, it just makes you feel super just like. here and just present and I'm feeling it right now when you're explaining this yeah I am I'm like yeah I wish I could feel that way no but that's that that's the thing but on the flip side of that though

I'll be honest with you the creation process can be fucking torture like you're just like you're like oh my God I have no ideas and what is this and this isn't good enough and oh my you know there's this expectation like

you know you've won four Emmys and people are looking at you like, come on, man. Like, you're supposed to be good. And I'm like, ah, you know, those fears start to creep in. And I start to get a little bit in my head about things. And sometimes that sort of overanalysis equals paralysis type of thing, you know. But, but so it's an interesting relationship where when I'm doing it, oh, I love it.

Right. Got it. But creating it can sometimes be like, ah, you know. Yeah. Well, it's so, I mean, when you have a partner, too, it is so intimate, especially depending on what kind of dances you're doing. you know what i mean and you know it's a it's an interesting it's an interesting gig i know you're married and all this stuff but like you're married to a dancer i mean when you were connected like

that with someone and you're flying and you're in sync there's something so like sexy and romantic and about it all you know and but you have to kind of separate yourself from all that shit i well there is and there isn't because like when you dance and when you've grown up dancing and doing it you can I mean you might watch it like oh my gosh energy between them but then I might be like

oh there's no there's no energy there that was just that's just that's just that's just that's just the movement and the dancing it's like a very definitely separate the two well especially when you're dancing you can dance with your sister too right

oh yeah yeah you know so that's like what's up with that and that's a whole other thing you know what I'm saying? Well by the way that's the thing that's the thing like for me you know from the outside looking in when you watch so many dancing like it feels really intimate in that kind of way but for us as dance just it's really not it's just like you're you're

we're like focused on the mechanics and we're focusing on like stretching and like you know there's so many so many things going on in our brain yeah about certain things that we're not even thinking about like you know the yeah yeah you know I mean there's too much going on in our brains but yeah man it's uh it's but on dancing with stars i will say you know you get somebody coming out coming in there you know and all of a sudden they're like learning from you and of course i mean like think how many relationships there's been from dancing with the stars only that's those are the ones that we've heard i mean you know i mean i'm sure you have all kinds of dirt about the shit that no one knows about that goes on that went on for the billions

of seasons of dancing with stars oh dear by the way my favorite is there there's this whole wave of new, no, it's the number one show on TV, which is insane right now. It's crazy. It will not stop. It's insane. It's like a whole new life, a whole new fan base. And this whole new fan base, they've only been watching for like two years. And there's 18 years of this lore, if you will, that they're like, they're trying to like, read, like, learn and hear about. And I'm like, oh, the stuff you'll hear about is maybe 10% of what actually went on. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. It's crazy, man. It's crazy. It's crazy. You're right, though. You're right, because you have two professionals together. They've been doing it all their lives. They understand the game. They understand the dance, so to speak. But when you have these sort of celebrities or these dancing with the stars, contestants coming in who are now, you know, connected like that and feeling things and moving their body with someone as they've never moved it before, there's something that is intoxicating about that. There's no doubt.

Yeah, it's interesting. And listen, it doesn't always like, it doesn't always like turn into something or anything. No, right. But, but, you know, it is, it's a unique experience to feel guided in something. And like, you're like, oh, I'm at your mercy kind of thing. And it's, it's, in a good way, you know what I mean? In a way, it's like, oh, I get to actually be taught something and it immersed in something. every day seven days a week six hours a day like when was the last thing you ever got to do

that i mean yeah never like never never it's such a unique experience and i think that i think who did i said this too i said this one of the contestants the other day because they were saying like oh yeah i'm really tired about them trying to pin us against each other and all i said well listen you have to say over this moment because one it's going to be over like that and two you're never going to experience something like this ever again it just just won't you'll have other amazing opportunities and other amazing experiences but you will never like have this sort of intense focus on something for this many hours a day for seven days a week and then show it something new every week in front of millions of people it's such a it's such a unique thing that um you just need

to savor it man you need to say oh yeah they asked i think a few years back i think i was we're doing a show for ABC. They asked me to do it. I was too scared. I'm like, I can't. It's too scary for me, dude. Like, I can't go dance in front of people yet. It's a, is it, I'm not ready.

It's scary. I have so much, anybody who's out there is like, whoever is crazy enough to get to put themselves through this is like, yeah, it's pretty crazy, man. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in,

and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm, character, and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, and a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything

from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest-ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls

came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national TV. Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer,

and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her, or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal. system will go in order to find someone to blame.

America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Chetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. I had the incredible opportunity to sit down with the one, the only, Cardi B. My marriage, I felt the love dying.

I was crying every day. I felt in the deepest depression that I had ever had. How do you think you're misunderstood? I'm not this evil, mean person that people think that I am. I'm too compassionate. I have sympathy for that fuck my man. You put so much heart and soul into your work? What's the hardest part for you to take that criticism?

This shit was not given to me. I worked my ass off for me. Even when I was a stripper, I'm gonna be the best pole dancer in here. When was the moment you felt I did it? I still, to this day, don't feel comfortable. I fight every day to keep this level of success because people want to take it from you so bad.

Listen to on purpose, Jay Chetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present. IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body.

generation of women's health and fertility care. Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands and then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled. By what?

All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, starting. September 19 on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight, I help a centenarian mend a broken heart. How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again? And I help a man atone for an armed robbery he committed at 14 years old. And so I pointed the gun at him and said this isn't a And he got down, and I remember feeling kind of a surge of like, okay, this is power. Plus, my old friend Gregor and his brother tried to solve my problems through hypnotism.

We could give you a whole brand new thing where you're like super charming all the time. Being more able to look people in the eye. Not always hide behind a microphone. Listen to heavyweight on the I-heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. how is it being a judge you know and what kind of a judge are you can you can you be like you know i mean i'm gonna be i'm gonna be honest with you i'm again because i've been in that position yeah i feel like i'm really like i have a lot of respect and a lot of like uh empathy and like hey hey like you're doing good you got there and which is interesting

because, of course, Len Goodman, who was, you know, our head judge for so many years, listen, people would not have survived the last few years. I mean, when you look back at some of the comments and the things that they had said were unbelievable. And for me, they were fantastic because it was just, like, shocking. Now, I will say this, it's interesting being a judge because, you know, I try to be encouraging. I try to be, you know, supportive

and also give some practical notes that they can actually work on the next week. That's what I would want to hear. Give me some clarity, like, what do I need to work on? You know, I try to give those notes in 15 seconds, which is part of part, which sometimes nothing comes out. I'm just like, yeah, great job.

But it's funny, though, because being a judge is not a popular position to be. No. Because you can say something to somebody, and then one person says oh my gosh you're so mean i hate you oh gosh like i used to like you i hate you yeah the same comment below that would be like you're too soft and like you're too nice like you to be that so you're just like you can't win dude no you can't win you just be you that's it that's it by the way you know i've had some producers to say like hey can you like

you know get in a little bit more and i'm like guys i'm gonna be honest with you i'm gonna be me because if I try to be something I'm not, first of all, people are going to smell it in my million a month's 100%. And it's just going to look really like tacky honestly. Yeah, no, it's true. Yeah. You know, if all of a sudden you're like,

that was shit. They're like, wait a minute, what? Yeah, because they always, you always want, you know, the panel of judges to have there, you want the ones like direct and honest and the one that looks sort of soft and sweet. you know yeah yeah i'm i try to i try to just be like practical yeah that's my that's my

angle if you will yeah and then extra is this is this a new this is a new gig sort of right dude three weeks in i'm like three weeks in yeah yeah three weeks in it's this is a great gig though you know what it's it's crazy because when they first came to me about it i was like i was like what i was yeah i was like nah i don't see my doing that and then I was like thinking about it I was first I was thinking about having a baby and I was like okay hey it's 20 minutes away yeah okay I'll be done at 12 or 1 o'clock I was like yeah okay that's kind of fun and and then of course I'm also just a fan I'm like a huge fan of movies I love music I love I love you know I'm in the entertainment business I love it and so being able to interview certain people and get to communicate with them and talk with them is it's really cool but I have so much respect already, three weeks in, for, you know, Terry Seymour, who I've known for 20 years, you know, and interviewing people and talking with them. It's, like, such a skill. So I'm excited about exercising this different muscle.

My first week, as far as the interviews go, my first week was, like, Marga Robbie, The Rock, and we're blunt, like, Jessica Chastain, Reese with a Spoon. I was like, I was like, shit, guys, my first week. freaking ain't oh no that's hard it was great though because the one they were all really gracious and really kind and wonderful but i definitely felt like um you know i i learned a lot of different moments you know things in there but there's a lot of the best moments that came out of those but the moments that i like there were genuine questions that i actually that i wanted to ask that wasn't like you know from the card or you know yeah yeah so that was like a good indicator is like okay cool like i need to just like trust my instincts in those ways but i will say

the biggest learning curve is in the vos right bro i'm in there and i'm like first of all i'm start reading it and you know his name's caesar he's in there he's like hey try like he's like a little more energy here i was like more energy yeah coming up we da da da da da da da da da and i was like are you sure i sound like a i sound like a muppet or something yeah yeah but then then you see it in context yes music and the clips and i was like wow i'm actually not doing enough yeah so then i'm in there now i the setup was like sitting down doing it the vos now i'm standing up i have a thing up here and i'm like right i'm like right stretching we got something something like i'm like Like a crazy person, but I'm, it's wild, man.

That's funny. No, it's so true. It's so, so true. Dude, it sounds crazy, but it is funny. There's a lot of moments in there where, like, it goes something, something. And Oliver Hudson, and it, like, goes up. Yeah. And I just, I just, I'm literally feel like Ron Burgundy.

And I'm like, I'm like, is that? I mean, you're talking about that? They, like, trust us. And then it goes into a clip. I'm like, oh, that sounds correct. Yeah. So my grandpa was a radio DJ in Spokane, Washington, and one of the few guys who actually got Elvis to come up with him and did a radio. This was a picture of him.

So when I was in there, I was kind of like, I was kind of like channeling my grandfather a little bit, like just like kind of that radio voice, you know. Yeah. It was kind of a cool, cool little moment, but that's been a big learning curve. Did you just get a call? Like, hey, Derek, like any interest in doing extra? yeah yeah yeah simple it was a cold call and I was like I was like I was like I don't think so and then I went in that with them and then we just were talking I was like yeah it'd be kind of fun okay all right and then and then it was literally like cool um I said yes

and then I think like three four days later like cool you're going in with the margar Robbie and Colin Farrell was like wow I was like shit how do you what's the prep on something like that you know is it just you get the questions it's it's pretty is it pretty basic you know obviously questions about the film yeah know and all that stuff of course and it's a proper sit down right it's like that sit down oh oh dude that's the other part of it is the press junket thing yeah so oh yeah i don't know about that stuff so i i go you know you go to the four seasons you go on there you check in and and first of all you sit down in a dark hallway and like in like a in a row on these chairs and they're all sitting there and I'm like hi guys and you just going one by one waiting

your turn to go in for eight minutes and then like I mean and they just Jesus it was I dude I feel like a little kid going at the first day of school I was like this is this is terrifying um hell yeah yeah especially four days after yeah I'll do this gig here's margot Robbie and Colin fair like all right go yeah go and they're like yeah be better and I literally said though I think I said as well I was like hey by the way this is my first interview they're like shut up They're like, what? So anyways, it was, it was cool, man. But I learned, I've learned a lot.

It's been really neat. And like I said before, I've been really fortunate because it's kind of nice, too, is that some of these people have, they know me kind of in some way or indirectly in some way. Like, we're chatting. Exactly. Yeah. They're like, oh, bro, we were dancing at that Halloween party years ago. I was like, yeah.

So it kind of was nice to break the ice a little bit. Well, I think that's why you're such a great hire, you know, I mean, for obviously a million different reasons. But yes, you have relationships. You've been in Hollywood long enough now. You have relationships with a lot of these people. So it's not just some sort of interviewer talking head where it's like, oh, yeah, dude, we're like, what's up? I mean, there's a comfortability that happens when being interviewed by someone who you, you know. Yeah, yeah. No, for sure, for sure, man. It's, uh, it's so, it's been cool. It's been cool. But again, it's like a lot of, I will say this, it's funny that there's some moments

when I'm talking about some things and I'm like oh no I don't want to talk about that I know but you're like it's okay you know whatever but yeah oh I think I'd be I'd be fired I'd go down a weird rabbit hole you know what I mean I'd go way off the questions like wait a minute wait a wait you just said this and then all of a sudden we're off on a different tangent well by the way too even just like yesterday we were like you know channing chatting and Kristen Dunst for roof man and um you know we're talking and I have, you know, like eight questions prepared, all these things and characters and this and that and all. And we just talked about parent advice basically because you have eight

minutes and you're like, oh, that's it? Oh my gosh. I asked one question. Well, dude, it sounds like you've been amazing. Congratulations on the baby coming and all of your successes. And it's been great to talk to you. And thank you for taking the time, man. I know you're a busy. Of course, brother. I appreciate you, man. Thank you so much, man. Yeah. Take it easy, man. You too, brother. Take care man all right later what a handsome dude huh just hair's perfect beard's perfect baby blues shining through just clean cut bang bang i got 10 years on them i know but look at me look at me you know i you know i look like i don't know what i look like i look like a a man that was just found in a dumpster you know who was just sort of taken off the street

street and giving headphones and a mic you know what though i am handsome in my own way do you hear that derrick i'm handsome in my own way just because you're glowing and i'm matt doesn't mean that you're better than me all right ending bye The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. America, y'all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you can. get your podcast. And to binge the entire season, ad free,

subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. I had the incredible opportunity to sit down with the one, the only, Cardi B. My marriage, I felt the love dying. I was crying every day. I felt in the deepest depression that I had ever had. This shit was not given to me. I'll work my ass off for me.

Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Introducing IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. It grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally, like, in the right hands. You're just not. Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight... And so I pointed the gun at him and said this isn't a joke. A man who robbed a bank when he was 14 years old. And a centenarian rediscovers a love lost 80 years ago. How can a hundred and... one-year-old woman, fall in love again. Listen to Heavyweight on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the 1980s, modeling wasn't just a dream.

It was a battlefield. It's a freaking war zone. These people are animals. The Model Wars podcast peels back the glossy cover and reveals a high-stakes game where survival meant more than beauty. Hosted by me, Vanessa Grigoriatis. This is the untold story of an industry built on ruthless ambition. Listen to Model Wars on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast.