Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Family and Fame with Tish Cyrus-Purcell and Brandi Cyrus

Episode Date: November 25, 2024

Tish Cyrus-Purcell and Brandi Cyrus join Oliver for a very revealing revelry!The truth behind the decision to divorce Billy Ray, the anxiety attacks that stopped Tish in her tracks, and how Brandi han...dled her parents' break-up as an adult.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:24 Krista Pike Listen to Unrestorable Season 2 Proof of Life On the IHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts Or wherever you get your podcasts Hi, I'm Kate Hudson And my name is Oliver Hudson
Starting point is 00:02:46 We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship And would it's like to be siblings We are a sibling reverie. No, no. Sibling reverie. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling Revely.
Starting point is 00:03:11 That's good. Bronco is my dog. He's a German. short hair pointer and he never leaves my side. He's a little bit anxious, but he's deeply and madly in love with me. And I am too. It's reciprocated and he just sort of follows me around. Um, and I love him. And then I've got donut as some of you might know if you listen to sort of, I think my father's day episode where he was bothering me. Donut is my bulldog. He's a dumb dumb. but he's a sweetie
Starting point is 00:03:51 I think he's nine almost nine starting to slow down a little bit Bulldogs don't live that long but I think he's gonna do pretty good here anyway it's me it's Oliver Hudson if he didn't already know I just got back from New York City
Starting point is 00:04:06 I was doing the Drew Barrymore show I had a blast talking relationships talking about love with my man Taye Diggs it was fun I think I, you know, I think I want to do a daytime talk show. I think this is what I'm leaning towards.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Do I love being an actor? Yeah, sure. Do I love producing? Yeah, I love it all. We're in a world now, this business where we need to pivot, you know, we need different avenues, we've got to supplement, we've got to figure out what else we love. And I do like talking to people. I do like giving my armchair advice, even though I don't use my own advice half the time.
Starting point is 00:04:46 but I could talk more about myself, but I think we got a couple of amazing guests in the waiting room, Brandy and Tish, Cyrus. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. The iconic name. The Cyrus iconic name. Very excited to have them on to talk about many, many, many, many things.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Having grown up the way that they did with all the siblings, Oh, wait, you're already here. Hi. I was doing my intro. Carry on. It's like we're not here. This is actually, this is kind of fun. Let me let you guys stay on.
Starting point is 00:05:29 I'm going to keep doing my intro. So these are two of the most beautiful women I've ever seen in my life. They are extremely intellectual. I don't understand why they're not multi-billionaires. Oh, wait, they're here. Did you hear all that? No, not a thing. I'm wondering if we're not multi-billionaires.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Well, thank you guys for coming on and playing with me. I appreciate it. Oh, my God. You do not know how stoked I am because I am, like, it is not okay how much I love your Instagram. Oh, really? Yes. Oh, good.
Starting point is 00:06:10 That makes me happy. It's, it's the one thing that honestly, probably, brings me the most joy because I nothing is planned everything is spontaneous that's why sometimes I don't do shit nothing goes on there and then all of a sudden I get the giggles of something that comes through my head and I just do it but I love it I mean if there's any piece of creativity that is a true expression of my inner being and that is definitely it's it's too good like if I'm in like a bad mood and I just, I hit your Instagram, I'm absolutely happy. So, thank you for that. Oh, good. Well, thank you guys. I appreciate that. Where are you right now?
Starting point is 00:06:54 We're in my house in Toluca Lake in LA. Oh, you are? Yeah. Okay. Good. But where did you grow up? Where did this all happen? I grew up in eastern Kentucky in the sticks and then moved to Nashville in the early 90s. and then out here in 2004. So I've been here a long time. Okay. And then Brandy? I grew up in Nashville, essentially. My daughter moved us there when I was five,
Starting point is 00:07:26 and I lived there up until Miley got Hannah Montana, and then I lived in L.A. for a while and freaking hated it. And now I'm back in Nashville. I've been back for a long time, so. Oh, good. So hold on. Why did we hate L.A.? What is there to like?
Starting point is 00:07:40 Honestly, guys. The weather. The same all the time. It's so boring. The traffic is horrendous. Getting into the air of LAX is a freaking nightmare. Nobody seems out with each other. There's no nightlife.
Starting point is 00:07:51 There's no social scene. Like, I, it's just not for me. Yeah. You know what? I agree. I mean, I was born and raised here. But I kind of want out. I'm an outdoor guy, right?
Starting point is 00:08:06 So I have a boat. I love the ocean. I love the mountains. Where would you go if you were going to move? Probably Colorado. I'm right there with you. Yeah. Colorado to me is, you know, just a perfect state.
Starting point is 00:08:21 I mean, I love the snow. I love the seasons. I love the summers there. You know, we've had a ranch there for 40 years, my family. So it's sort of second homie. I went to elementary school there just outside of Aspen. And it's just a very special place for me, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:40 And I'm sick of the traffic. I'm sick of it. I'm sick of it. You know, I am. But it's home. My whole fucking family lives 10 minutes from each other. You know, I mean, that's pretty special. I got Kurt and Mom and Wyatt and Kate and Boston and all of us are right here with all the cousins and everything else. I wish all of my kids were here, but it's for me. I mean, I could never live in Nashville because three of my kids are in Nashville, but the weather is literally horrendous. So I can't. It is terrible. It rains more than it rains. Seattle, New Swan. And that for me here, Molly is literally like five minutes for me and Noah is five minutes for me. And all right here together. And so, and I love it. Yeah. And I have happened to have a house that like I cannot see anyone else. Like, yeah, like I cannot see my neighbors. I have a big front yard. I have a big backyard. And like when you pull into my gauge, you feel like you're like in freaking bawly.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Yeah. It feels like a retreat for sure. It does block a retreat. So like for me, like I just, the traffic is really the only thing that bugs me. Yeah. It's filthy. So that's the- And I get it.
Starting point is 00:09:53 I did a show called Nashville. I did Nashville in Nashville. I lived there for two years. So I bought a house in Cleveland Park, you know. And no doubt that weather is nasty. Yes. The ice storms were nutty. I know
Starting point is 00:10:10 The off storms are insane Yeah Yeah yeah yeah Well let's go back a little bit Because you guys have such You have such an interesting Sort of family There's seven total siblings
Starting point is 00:10:22 Correct Five, okay total Five total Five total Okay And so there's halves and fools How many halves and how many fools Two halves three fools
Starting point is 00:10:36 Okay two halves three fools And is everyone still connected under the same umbrella? Everyone is, is there relationships amongst everybody? There are relationships among everyone, but being that the three are in Nashville and two are in L.A., like, I got divorced about, what year was that? 22 years ago? I don't know, but I got divorced. Well, yeah, yeah, I was reading about that.
Starting point is 00:11:08 with Billy, right? So, okay, but it was an interesting divorce, meaning it was a divorce not divorce, divorce not divorce, and then finally divorce. For me, I never wanted to be divorced. Like, my mom and dad met on a Monday, got married on a Friday, and we're together until my dad passed away.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Great childhood, best example of a marriage you could ever imagine. And also just for us, like you're in the public, guy and like the world that we like exist in is already so kind of odd and at some times unstable I wanted to make it work you know probably a little too long like for my own mental health right so the staying together was sort of filing staying together was like can we make this work or can you make this work essentially right right and then you know the ship Peter's out. And there became a point that, like, I didn't have a choice.
Starting point is 00:12:12 I had, like, it had. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And how was that for the whole family, just generally? I mean, it definitely, I think, was tough on everyone in some ways.
Starting point is 00:12:25 It was. But I feel like once they finally did divorce, we were all adults. Yeah. And that was, I feel like in the beginning, like, you know, in the prior filings, like, especially Noah was so young. And that was definitely like a big thing. is like my mom really wanted to stay, the family to stay together for Noah. But then, you know, once Noah was an adult, I do feel like it was, it was not great.
Starting point is 00:12:46 But also we were all old enough to understand it, right? Like, be able to like, like, zoom out and see it for what it was instead of feeling like it was. Yeah, that's an interesting question, actually, because we always, I'm proud, I'm a child of divorce, you know. But you're always hearing of stories, you know, or the implications of divorce through a child's eyes, you know, who. brain has not developed fully and is maybe taking it personally or it's fucking them up in one way or another right but you rarely hear of adult children who sort of are going through it and how you guys are all able to process that with a fully developed conscious and aware brain yes for sure it was definitely definitely different was it easier or were there
Starting point is 00:13:36 I think so I mean I obviously don't know what it's like to go through a divorce like living in a parent's house because I was out of the house but I would assume
Starting point is 00:13:46 that if a kid was still in the house during a divorce that you would be wrapped up in all the drama more right like I was very removed from it because I lived in my own house and I wasn't you know you're not like
Starting point is 00:13:58 you're not just like in all of it only part of what they tell you essentially you know so yeah right but there's there's no taking sides right i mean there's just is there no matter what i'm not going to get into the d because i don't know how much you want to talk about or not i i like the fucking weeds as you probably will know but like i like weed and the weeds but you know it's like when you're that age whatever it happens they're your parents you know and how do you
Starting point is 00:14:30 navigate that. For sure. Yes. I think, I mean, even the older kids, you know, like my son Trace, for example, he's 36. He'll be 36 in February. You know, and he was like bummed. Like he was like, I wish my mom and dad would never get, I wish that wouldn't have happened.
Starting point is 00:14:55 I still, you know, have just, you know, I think no matter, I was, I was, I. I said, I was an only child and had the best upbringing and best parents and never went through anything like that. So I don't really know how it affects you, but I definitely think, you know, ultimately my kids, it was definitely something that was probably hard on them, I would think, you know, no matter how you do it. And, you know, I think that we did it really well. I think I did really well, and I do. I think that I just wanted it to be the easiest as possible for everyone involved. Going back to happier times, I guess, you know, just having children,
Starting point is 00:15:49 and I always ask this question for people who do have kids who are famous and how they, you know, were able to sort of navigate that as well. You know, growing up with a famous father, what that was like, how you keep everyone humble, how you keep them grounded. And then even moving forward, you know, when the kids want to sort of follow in the footsteps or get into this business, which can obviously be dangerous, if not done correctly, you know, how you guys sort of went about all of that. It was like, for me, like a full-time job because I also managed, have managed my lease since day one and I still do. And so, you know, it's like that balance of being her manager and her mom, you know, wasn't always easy. But honestly, she is sheer perfection now. And so whatever I did, like, I like pat myself on the back all the time because I'm so proud of like the woman that she's.
Starting point is 00:16:55 she's become, she's getting ready to be 32. And like, she amazes me every day. And, you know, she started Hannah Montana when she was 12. So she really did grow up in the business. And most of the time, a lot of the time, that does not go well. But for somehow we made that relationship really work. And I did that with all my kids. Like, you know, I even, I managed Noah for a while. Noah has a different manager now. I don't know the world as well with Noah, like musically. She's completely different than anything I know. Amazing, by the way.
Starting point is 00:17:36 It's so funny because I told my wife, you know, who was coming on. And she goes, oh, my God, I've just been obsessed recently with Noah's music. And she just played me two of her songs. One was called July. Yes. And the other one was kind of about, what is it called? Like, over being dark or something was kind of about it. Oh, it might have been, I don't know if it was, I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:17:59 The second verse talks about Miley, I think, where it's like, my sister's all light and bright. And, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, Noah is like, like, an artist, you know, like, she's always, from the time she was, like, 13, just had this depth to her that, like, comes out in her music. She writes all of her music. And, like, she's such an artist. And with Mali, like, Mali's so different. Molly is in such a different, like, style of music and world than Noah is, which is great because there's no competition there, you know, like they're in just two completely different
Starting point is 00:18:41 worlds musically, which is great. And then Brandy's a DJ, and Trace is in music. My son Brazen, Noah and him collab sometimes. He's a songwriter. So, like, all my kids are in music. It's crazy. Yeah, it's the family business. You know, I mean, it's the family fucking business.
Starting point is 00:19:02 I, it's the same here. You know, it's like you got the curtain mom. Totally. Myself, Kate, Wyatt. All of our kids want to act. I mean, it's just kind of the way it is. It really is. I think that when your kids grow up like that,
Starting point is 00:19:17 but they don't know anything. Like, that's all they know. Yeah. I mean, I will say, like, I'm the oldest. So for me, it was, you know, I was never, I was never expected to get into the business. If anything, it was kind of the opposite. I think, I think my mom really wished I would be the one to, like, go to college and get a degree. Something else.
Starting point is 00:19:37 And, uh, and I was never, like, expected to do it, but I was also, like, never pressured to do anything, anything specifically. And I've still found myself in it. You know what I mean? Right. Yeah. Obviously, we all did. And it is interesting how we all, like, somehow found a separate lane in it, too. Totally.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Like she said, like, it's just like we all do it, but like there's really no competition and not crossover, which is like really interesting. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable somewhere with charm character and a little local flavor. If you're planning
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Starting point is 00:24:52 Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I ask this question all the time, because we have celebrities and their siblings or you know, I've come from that world where we all do the same thing and everyone seems to say that there is no envy, there is no jealousy, everyone's, you know, happy for each other. I don't fucking necessarily believe it all the time. I just don't, only because do you wish success for everyone in your family? Of course. Are there parts of me, and I've talked about us a million times, you know, where I'm envious of my sister's opportunities and, you know, what she's. she's been able to do, and do I sometimes feel like the black sheep, even though my career,
Starting point is 00:25:45 you know, by normal standards, has been amazing. Fuck, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's that thing. And maybe it's me. I don't know. Just the two of you guys, the siblings? No, it's myself.
Starting point is 00:25:56 It's Kate. It's Wyatt and it's Boston. So it's too full. Kate and I are blood. And then Wyatt and I are half. And then Boston's step. I see. I'm sure you on the youngest.
Starting point is 00:26:08 I'm the oldest. I'm like you. Yeah. Interesting. I think, like, honestly, speaking of Trace again, like he really just told me the other day, like, I've always, like, I've never been jealous of Molly. I've always been grateful for the opportunities I get because of her.
Starting point is 00:26:31 And so I think that my kids have mostly seen it that way. Yeah. You know, I mean, I'm sure it's hard. to be, you know, like, the Mali's of the world don't come around very often. I mean, like, to hit, and Mali, like, I always talk to my kids about, like, shut a machine. I mean, like, Disney was a machine. And, you know, those opportunities are so far. And, you know, it's just like, it's winning the lottery, you know.
Starting point is 00:27:05 And so I think also just instilling that into them as. they were younger and getting into the business, you know, that, you know, not everybody gets to go in that way, you know, and it's harder because you have to kind of work harder and do things differently and, you know, just, it's just a completely different career path and a way into your career than the way Miley had with Hannah Montana. Mm-hmm. And Brandy, give me a little snapshot into sort of your upbringing, right? Because you're the oldest, but you were, tell me if I got this wrong,
Starting point is 00:27:46 but you were adopted, correct? After. Yeah, my dad technically adopted me when I was really young. Got it. Okay. So give me a little overview of that. Yeah. I mean, so for me, like I was five or six when Akey Breaky Heart came out. That sounds right.
Starting point is 00:28:02 I don't think you were that. Well, yeah, so eight and I, 991, 92. Yeah, I was five. So essentially for like as long. as long as I can remember, my dad's just been so famous. You know what I mean? So I've literally known nothing different. But I think like where you guys went right was like Trace and I, Trace and I a year and a half apart. So we're same age essentially. Like we were in public school. I was in public school until I was 18 years old. Until I graduated high school. So even though my dad
Starting point is 00:28:27 was so famous, I still like had a pretty normal like day to day life. Like went to public school. And when I was 16, like I got a job at a restaurant and went to work and was did very normal things, you know, even though I would go watch my dad play these huge shows or whatever. But I'm so thankful for that. And I think that's something that, like, once the family moved to L.A., that was just almost impossible, right? Like, it's not even to send them to public school and they're going to have the same experience I had. Like, it was just very different for them. But for me, it's just kind of all I've ever known is, like, the fame and all of it. So I feel like it doesn't, like, it just, it doesn't really affect me oddly. But I also at the same
Starting point is 00:29:08 time just feel like a normal person, but what I was going to say about like Miley's fame and just like the grandeur of like her success, I don't ever feel the jealousy because I've never wanted that. Like I never wanted to be like famous or like have people recognize me everywhere I go and like have my photo taken everywhere. Like I love to play music and I love to have fun on the weekends in the club and make money. But what I love more is being able to go home and live a normal life. I live on a farm. I ride horses every day. I hang out. And it's like, and I want that. And I want to
Starting point is 00:29:44 be able to always, like, have that. And when you have a career like, Miley, that's your life. Like, entirety of your life. And I think I've always known that I don't want to give up all the other parts of my life for a job or to be able to, like, live out. Yeah. You lose your freedom.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Completely. You know? Yeah. And you have to really fucking love it for that to be justified. And Miley does. She fucking love. fucking loves everything that she does. She loves every process, every part of it. And like it's cool to see that
Starting point is 00:30:14 because that is what it takes to be able to have that kind of career. Totally. Oh my God. No, I'm totally with you. That level of fame is gnarly. You lose all your anonymity,
Starting point is 00:30:28 obviously. And then you lose your life essentially. And you said it perfectly, which is you have to love it. Have to. You know, you have to because it's such a massive sacrifice and of course you have you know the haters say oh what the fuck do you have to complain about you're rich and famous but you know there there is
Starting point is 00:30:48 a price to pay for that there's no doubt about that yeah yes i mean it's it's crazy i mean you can't even you know just date and hang out with dudes or go do your thing or whatever you know especially as a young person you have to be careful of every little fucking movement you make unless you don't and mylie seems to have that irreverence of like you know what fuck off i don't you don't give a shit what you think about me i'm going to go live my life she does and like that is a good it's great but it's like going on vacation or like you know she like if you're on like all the tours we've ever done in every city like everybody's going out and sightseeing during the day and doing all the things and what like there's no way that mollie could do that like
Starting point is 00:31:35 it would be like mayhem. So you're stuck in a hotel room alone. And, you know, it's, it is, it's, it really is, you just give up so much, like, as far as that goes of being able to just go on vacation and be a normal person and, you know, do things normally. But I do think that Molly, honestly, like I said, I, like I'm in awe of her every day. Like, she's just, like, kind of figured it out. and, you know, is so happy.
Starting point is 00:32:07 And like Brandy said, like, she really is at this point in her adulthood where she really kind of is like, every step has gotten me to where I'm at now. And, like, you know, she can kind of choose what she wants to do and not want to do. And so, yeah, like, she's loving it. Does she have her moments? Does she know how to find her free? freedom and anonymity without having to just stay at home. You know, I mean, it's a big world, man.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Like, don't you want to go experience it? He definitely wants to. And I think now that she's older, that that will happen. And that she'll figure that part out because she, like, has just gotten, like, kind of the travel bug and, like, look, see the world and, you know, do all the things. And so, yeah, I think there's a way to figure it out. do it. I don't think you'll ever do it like a normal person gets to do it. But I definitely think that they're, you know, she's a smart girl. She'll figure it out for sure. And Brady,
Starting point is 00:33:15 going back a little bit, you know, do you remember being adopted? Was this a big moment? Or was it just kind of like, this is my life? Because I only say this because, you know, my dad, you know, he was around for a little bit. Then he bailed. We have a good relationship now. But it took a long, long, long, long time. But we're there. Kurt came into my life when I was six, five or six, kind of the same. And essentially, he raised me. You know, he's the man that I am.
Starting point is 00:33:46 I'm the man I am today because I am, right? There was a moment when he asked us, myself and Kate, if we wanted to be adopted. And we said no. And not that we were, you know, very aware probably of what it even fucking We were six, however old or 12, whatever. I don't remember the age, but we just said, well, we don't need it. You know what I mean? Like, the love is right there.
Starting point is 00:34:13 And, you know, at the same time, you know, when you don't have your biological around, it's hard to replace that no matter what, you know what I'm saying? Like, the love was there with Kurt. There's no doubt that he is my dad. I call him Paul. You know, but there was always not something. missing, but it was always sort of like, wow, but there's that other side, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Did you ever feel that at all? Or was it just like, this is my dad and that's it? Yeah, that's kind of how it was for me. Like, like I said, like, from, I mean, achy, breaky heart came out when I was five, but I mean, my dad's been in my life since I was, what, three? Yeah. Like, you know, so I was, I was very young. It's kind of all I know. Got it.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And like you're kind of saying, like, he was my dad. he, like, turned me into the person that I am. He taught me how to play a guitar. He taught me how to ride a horse. He literally taught me how to do every single thing that I love today. And I was a little bit older, I think, when we, like, did the legal thing. And I think for me, a lot of it was like, well, I want to have the same last name as the rest of my family. I want to have the, I want to be able to put Cyrus when I'm at school and be brandy sight.
Starting point is 00:35:24 You know what I mean? And it was kind of more of like, well, this is my family and this is my dad. And I want to like, I want to actually be a part of that family. And I think that's kind of more of what it was for me at the time. And I don't really remember it feeling like a big deal because it already felt like that. Like it already felt like the first part of the family. I already felt like I was a star, so I already felt like he was my dad. So I just like kind of like it just didn't really feel like a huge moment.
Starting point is 00:35:48 You know what I mean? And then how did your sort of creative evolution happen? I mean, at a young age, did everyone know and specifically you kind of what you wanted to do, what you wanted to be. Did you know that you were a creative person and wanted to pursue the arts? I actually feel like I was the latest to that, like the latest bloomer in that sense.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Like when I was growing up, like all I cared about was horses. And I was just at the barn like riding 12 horses a day, every single day. And it's literally all I wanted to do. And then I think like I went off to college and slowed down the riding. And that's the exact same time
Starting point is 00:36:27 that Miley got Hannah Montana. and then the whole family moved out to LA and the whole family kind of stepped more into the entertainment side of things and I started making more friends in music and it started to become like everybody that I was around was a creative and that's kind of how I feel like I started to tap into that
Starting point is 00:36:45 and I became friends with a bunch of girls that were in a band and they all played guitar and they were all musicians and they became my very best friends and they ended up touring with Miley and we all went on the road together and I was just hanging out, essentially, but it made me want to learn how to play the guitar. And it's like, oh, well, look at that.
Starting point is 00:37:05 My dad's great at it. So I'll just have him teach me. And I was probably, I don't know, like 21 or 22, like when I picked up a guitar. And on that tour, kind of started messing around with it. And then when we came off that tour, I would just sit with my dad every day and just like figure out how to play the guitar. And that's kind of how I got interested in it.
Starting point is 00:37:24 And then when I moved to L.A., I was working as a featured background extra on Hannah Montana and got introduced to a girl that was a very talented artist and musician that was looking to put a band together and she and I started a band. And I just kind of like, it all just kind of happened really fast, you know, and it's funny because I as a kid never like have dreams of what I wanted to be or have goals or like I definitely would not say like I knew I've always known what I wanted to do because that's so far from the truth. And even to this day, like, I feel like I still don't really know. I feel like I'm just kind of as far as it goes, you know, like, dancing for a while. And then I, like, then that ended. And I started modeling a little bit when I was young. And then, like, I wasn't that young when I started that.
Starting point is 00:38:11 So I was like, well, this isn't going to last long. Where do I go from here? And that's where I kind of got introduced to, like, the world of the DJing. And DJ, I would never, in a million years of thought, like, that's where I would end up. And even when I started doing it, I was like, oh, this is good for now until I really want to do. and then I just started to really love it and it just started to take off for me and here we freaking are.
Starting point is 00:38:31 And now she has a residency at the wind. Now I'm a freaking blind resident DJ. Oh, really? Damn, that's amazing. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility.
Starting point is 00:38:55 thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm character and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip,
Starting point is 00:39:18 a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment,
Starting point is 00:39:40 a new podcast about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. artists and activists. I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith. But there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in. To bring you depth and analysis from a
Starting point is 00:40:09 unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present. IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that
Starting point is 00:40:53 promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care. Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands and then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled.
Starting point is 00:41:22 By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted, the kind body story, starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Power struggles, shady money, drugs, violence, and broken promises. It's a freaking war zone. These people are animals. There's no integrity. There's no loyalty.
Starting point is 00:41:47 That's all gone. In the 1980s, modeling wasn't just a dream. of battlefield. Book, book, book, make deals. Let's get models in. Let's get them out. And the models themselves?
Starting point is 00:42:00 They carried scars that never fully healed. Until this day, honestly, if I see a measuring tape, I freak out. The Model Wars podcast peels back the glossy cover and reveals a high-stakes game
Starting point is 00:42:11 where survival meant more than beauty. Hosted by me, Vanessa Grigoriatis, this is the untold story of an industry built on ruthless ambition. Listen to Model Wars on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin. So like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years. years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?
Starting point is 00:43:19 A new podcast called Wisecrack. where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Isn't it weird, though? That's the beauty of life, and that's the beauty of sort of letting,
Starting point is 00:43:44 not squeezing too hard and holding on to anything, really. Yeah. You know, there's something really, fantastic about this idea that you still don't know what the hell you are I'm a very I try to be self-aware
Starting point is 00:44:01 I've been in therapy for a billion years and I'm always in my head not in a bad way but I always ask I'm sometimes like who the fuck are you Oliver like who are you really like are you full of shit
Starting point is 00:44:16 to yourself right now like I mean I have these existential crises sometimes in my head. But then I'm like, you know what? Who gives, who kisses shit? Why do I need to even pass a judgment on this? And we can't know who we are fully because we're forever evolving, you know?
Starting point is 00:44:35 It's kind of the fun about being human. It can be scary at times. But if you allow it to just to be part of the process, then fuck. Yeah. It's kind of awesome. Yeah, I've kind of always been like, I'll go where life takes me kind of gal. like I don't brandy is like honestly and I know that that you talk about your mental health and like I've always been anxious and over the last months I've been very open about literally having the worst anxiety I've ever life and oh my god it's it's been I just got the chills awful like really awful brandy this girl like Like, because all, like, all my kids have a little bit of anxiety.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Like, we all struggle a little bit with it. Not this one. Like, she is cruising through life. There is, like, like, there is nothing, no anxiety, no, none of it. And like, hold on, Tish, what, what as mama, what would you attribute that to? You know, why do you think that, just given her makeup? I don't know if it is because of the horses for some. She was such a young age.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Like, she really cared about nothing else. Like, she really didn't. Like, from the time she was six and put on a horse, that was really, she had such a connection to that. And it was, like, there really wasn't time to think about other things. And, like, she was just always completely in it. And she still is, like, to this day. And also, like, I don't know, but we, like, it's, we just all talk about it because it's just
Starting point is 00:46:19 like, dang it's got to be genetic a little bit. It's got to be something in your DNA that gives you anxiety. I feel like, I don't know. Well, again, as you know, like I'm, this is my struggles have been with anxiety. You know, it's not an everyday thing, but you do live with low grade, you know, every now and again, even though I am on Lexa Pro and I, you know, I'm on medication and all that. But there is a genetic component. You know, my mom, when she was 24 years old, 25 years old, which was the.
Starting point is 00:46:49 exact age when I got struck with anxiety and when I say struck, I mean it. I was going into like a club. My heart felt like it exploded. I went down to a knee. I thought I was dying. And I didn't understand. I didn't even know what anxiety was. And my mom had it at the same time. So I don't think you're, I don't think you're wrong. I think there is a genetic component to that for sure. Somehow that gene just missed me because I, lucky, lucky. I mean, she got, I mean, so lucky. because, like, I was on Lexa Pro for, like, 20 years and worked beautifully. Like, I didn't even have any low-grade anxiety. I was, like, insane.
Starting point is 00:47:30 And all of a sudden, it stopped working. And, oh, yeah. And so for the last six to seven months, I've had, like, a lot of anxiety. So you've only been, like, vocal about it for the last, like, six months or so? Or have you talked about it? Why do you think that? I've been in, like, a freaking cave for six months. We went on hiatus from the podcast and everything, and she's just kind of been going through it and then just surfacing in the past month, I'd say.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Oh, wow. That's so interesting. So why did you feel like you had, not that you had to hide it, but why? Because you were, obviously, you know, you're on shows and, you know, you're a public person. And did you just never want to really talk about it? No, I talked about it the second I came like, I literally. truly like it just it drives me crazy to give tabloids and shit like headlines but like I also always want to be honest because I want like if anything comes out of you know what I've gone
Starting point is 00:48:32 through if I can help other people who go through the thing then it's great um no I I wasn't functioning enough to even do the podcast like was full on like panic attacks like nonstop and just I've never felt anything like the anxiety that I felt for like four months solid of like like hell like I know as soon as I came out of it and we started podcasting again I started talking about it yeah so what how did you come out of it um changed medications which um like when I first went on Lexa Pro and like you I like was around 20 three when I first started having anxiety, I went on Lexa Pro
Starting point is 00:49:21 and it just like wiped it out. Like it for me, it was just like I really, I mean, I had like anxiety around traveling and things. Sure, yeah. But no, nothing like major that I couldn't handle. And I also
Starting point is 00:49:37 for the last 10 years smoked a lot of weed. And I don't know if this had something to do with it, but we went on vacation somewhere I could not have weed. And like three days in, I just started having so much anxiety. Came home, I tried to smoke again and more anxiety. And then just for some reason had a full long, I call it my anxiety era because I'm telling you,
Starting point is 00:50:04 it was like from the moment I woke up until the time I went to bed, I was just anxious. And it was like debilitated. How did your anxiety manifest? Because it's so funny, I had the exact four months. this is about two years ago now. It was fucking gnarly. And I had young, they weren't young, young, but I still had to be a dad. You know, I was mountain biking in Colorado going downhill, like losing my shit on the
Starting point is 00:50:31 mountain. And I would wake up every morning and there would be that small moment where I'm like, am I okay? And then boom, now I'm flooded with insanity. I'm still waking up with anxiety every single morning. how does it feel like what because sometimes it's stomach sometimes it's this sometimes it's you can't breathe you know okay so at first like the stomach thing was terrible in the beginning that has subsided a lot of weight like a lot of weight um and which was really scary for me because
Starting point is 00:51:05 I'm already pretty small person so I was like very not and um then it's more like in my chat like I just, my heart, I just feel it. My insides just feel anxious. So for me, the second my feet hit the floor in the morning, I go for a walk. Like, I do like a long walk. And that at this point gets it out. And if I stay busy, I'm okay. Like, when I am busy and not focus on it at all, I'm okay.
Starting point is 00:51:40 If I have too much time on my hands, I'm still kind of in it. but it's not debilitating at the moment. For four months, it was debilitating. Mm-hmm. I consider myself a pretty strong-willed person. I know what I'm going through. That was the benefit of having been through it. I know I'm not dying.
Starting point is 00:52:01 I know I'm going to get through it. I know there is light at the end of this tunnel. I have to ride it out. I have to keep my meditations going. I have to keep journaling. I got to keep working out. I got to keep, you know, positive affirmations. and all of these things because that anxiety is roots and stems from something.
Starting point is 00:52:20 You know, there is a chemical imbalance. I do believe that, but there is a psychological component to it. So that means there's a way out. But if I was a weaker person and I thought, this is it, I'm trapped like this forever. Sorry, not going to keep going. It's like, honestly, like, I'm the same way. Like, they're like suicide. Like, that's just like not an honest.
Starting point is 00:52:45 option. But there were days that I would say, like, I truly, like, I can't, I can't live like this. Like, if this, like, I don't know what I'm going to do because I can't. And then that perpetuates more anxiety. That's the fucked up thing about anxiety is that it's this vicious cycle because you get anxious about being anxious. I'm still there. But again, like, I really, a lot of mine is when I have idle time. Like, even on the weekends, I'm not, like, I'm not a big outdoor person. So, like, I don't play sports or tennis or hike and do things like that. So weekends are hard for me, usually.
Starting point is 00:53:34 But has yours only happened when you've been off your Lexa Pro? Or has yours happened while you, if on your Lexa Pro, are you totally fine? I'm like you. I have sort of, I can have low-grade anxiety around certain situations, you know, or sometimes I'll wake up. I'm like, fuck, dude, I'm just anxious. God damn it. You know, but it's not that bedridden, debilitating, like, disassociation where I'm like, is life
Starting point is 00:54:05 even real right now? Like, I can't even, even what's coming out of my vision doesn't feel like reality, you know? It's not like that. but my last really my worst bout ever again two years ago was me going trying to go off of lexic pro weaning off of it because i'm like i think i'm okay which is a bad choice and i did it correctly um but it just like just devastated me like i fucking put me down and then i got a job and i'm like oh my god i got to go to albuquerque to do this tv show i can't i can't act like i can't go
Starting point is 00:54:42 I literally cannot work. So I just went back on, you know. And then it evened you completely out. Yeah, it's evened me out. You know, there's no doubt, though, that it still pops its head up. You know, if I drink too much and have a decent hangover that kicks in, you know, I mean, there are certain times where it flares up, but it hasn't gotten to that point where it's just, you know, gnarly, gnarly, gnarly.
Starting point is 00:55:11 But, you know, I've had three really bad bouts in my life. And it probably, you know, might happen again at some point, you know. But it's just, I think I know how to manage it a little bit better now. But it's still awful. And I'm glad you're talking about it. And, you know, I think you're right. Even though we know that many, many, many, many people suffer as well. and they know that people suffer as well,
Starting point is 00:55:42 sometimes it's nice to hear that you're not alone. There's some camaraderie in it, you know, even with me. Of course, I'm like, cerebrally, I know a lot of people have anxiety, but like if you and I are talking privately and you're like, oh my God, I'm fucked up. I'm like, oh, God, I'm fucked up too. There's a camaraderie there. Totally.
Starting point is 00:56:00 No, honestly, I literally, when I saw on your Instagram, you talking about that happening to you a couple years ago, I was like, immediately I was like, oh, God, yeah, like I'm not the only one. You know, not that you wish that on someone else to make you feel there is this thing of like, oh, he went through that and he's on the other side of it. And that's hopeful, you know. Maybe you and I should start an anxiety club called club anxiety. Seriously.
Starting point is 00:56:31 It's kind of a fucking great idea. Club anxiety is kind of a funny name too because it sounds like a, like a, like a dance club. I called this my anxiety era. Like everybody's talking about the eras tour, Taylor. Yeah. I'm like, I've been in my anxiety era.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Mm-hmm. So, but yeah, like I literally, I want to talk about it as much as possible because honestly, I look and I'm like, okay, why am I going through this? Why have I gone through this?
Starting point is 00:57:00 Like, if I don't use it to help other people, then in a way, you know, what's the point. Like, I, there's nothing, I just think there's no shame in it. It's just something that you either happens to you or it doesn't. If it does happen, it's freaking hard.
Starting point is 00:57:18 It's, you know, but they're right. There is that silver lining to all of this. And you may not see it now, but it definitely rears its head in the best possible way. I mean, for me, it was even with my kid who's not 17 when he was in eighth grade. I kept him home from school for almost a month because he was going through. He had anxiety. And I just knew what it was. I knew how to deal with it, you know, luckily for him.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Yeah. And I was able to sort of, you know, have great conversations with them and give him some tools. So there was that. And then, again, and you're in the spotlight. Like, you're a famous person. Like you have that reach and the amount of people that I have some come into contact. with who have said to me, you know, your story has made me feel better or inspired me or has made me want to seek help in one way or another.
Starting point is 00:58:12 And it feels pretty fucking great. I know. You know. Totally. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in, and how to make it feel like home.
Starting point is 00:58:41 I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm character and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one.
Starting point is 00:59:25 We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers, were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith. But there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in.
Starting point is 00:59:47 To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other, sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation, public. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura Podcast
Starting point is 01:00:10 Network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart
Starting point is 01:00:26 podcast present IVF disrupted, the kind body story. A podcast podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care. Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands, and then to find out again that you're just not.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted, the kind body story, starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Power struggles, shady money, drugs, violence, and broken promises. It's a freaking war zone. These people are animal. There's no integrity.
Starting point is 01:01:26 There's no loyalty. That's all gone. In the 1980s, modeling wasn't just. a dream. It was a battlefield. Book, book, book. Make deals. Let's get models in. Let's get them out. And the models themselves? They carried
Starting point is 01:01:41 scars that never fully healed. Till this day, honestly, if I see a measuring tape, I freak out. The Model Wars podcast peels back the glossy cover and reveals a high-stakes game where survival meant more than beauty. Hosted by me, Vanessa Grigoriatis,
Starting point is 01:01:56 this is the untold story of an industry built unruithless. ambition. Listen to Model Wars on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. From a very rural background myself, my dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin. So like, it's not like, what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I'd just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different.
Starting point is 01:02:37 On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast. called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:03:20 I wanted this place called the Hoffman Institute, which I've talked to. I've tried to get her to go there. Oh, babe, Tish. Should I go? It's changed my whole shit. Now, see? Really? I begged.
Starting point is 01:03:33 I bet. Yes, it changed my shit. It's been six years now. There's a honeymoon phase. There's no doubt. Like, when you come out of it, it's almost like you're psychic. I was like, I see life totally differently. We get pounded again by life, and that's normal.
Starting point is 01:03:45 But you have this wonderful toolbox to sort of draw from when you need it. The experience itself, once you surrender to it, and once you can commit to it, which took me two days to do. because I was in my head like these fucking people are crazy but I just said you know what Oliver you're here go and it was really an amazing experience you just learned so much about yourself and you can break it all down and it's pretty amazing I mean I had an incredible experience wow okay I would do it I would honestly give it a shot
Starting point is 01:04:23 what's your hesitation I don't know I'm just scared to like I love my house I love being, like, and I'm at this place where, and I have not been like this, where I have this fear of being alone. And it is not good. Even alone for like a day or two, like freaks me out. So I need to work through that for sure. Yeah. Oh, it's the best time when you're the most afraid, you know.
Starting point is 01:04:54 The worst time in your mind, but the best time probably to deal with. it. Yeah. It's been amazing. And I'm only to say that because I talk about it on this show, I've talked about it on talk shows, whatever, because it's just a part of my life. And the amount of letters that I have gotten, because in the process, you know, at the end, you write a letter to the people who inspired you to go. And I have hundreds of them. Wow. And it's been like, oh my God, I'm a emotional person just generally, but I cry every time I read them, because it just makes me feel amazing, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:33 So, how many days did you go? Seven days. You go up there, no phone, no nothing. You literally check out. You don't bring books. You don't bring computers. You don't do anything. You can't run.
Starting point is 01:05:45 You don't want to do yoga. You just want to like, don't do anything. That's the idea. They literally say, please don't masturbate. I'm like, well, but no, you're not allowed. I'm like, man, how about just once? The thought of setting and my thoughts and doing nothing is not okay. I know.
Starting point is 01:06:03 I know. Yeah, that sounds hard. Okay, so real quick, podcast. Yeah. Give it to me. What are you guys doing? How long you've been doing it? Give me the whole, give me all the deets.
Starting point is 01:06:12 We've been doing it for a few years. It started out, it was called Sorry We're Stoned because. I love that. Freaking massive stoner and so funny. Are you still smoking now that you're? It's killing me. I want to, but honestly, I think it's, this point right now, like, it would just make me more anxious. Yeah, because it goes both
Starting point is 01:06:34 the ways. Sometimes people smoke their weed to alleviate anxiety. To see, we can talk forever about this because, like, I wanted to think if I smoked it would relieve it, but I'm so afraid it will do the opposite that now I'm scared to do it. But weed was, I felt like weed was my medicine for a long time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's mine. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. So I, like, The thought of not smoking weed ever again, like, I don't, I'm praying that's not the case that I can smoke again and that be okay. Yeah. I just don't know with my anxiety right now that that's probably the best thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:15 It's been seven months for me. And I mean, I smoked every day. Yeah. You know, and I pray to God I get back there. Well, once we connect, we'll get you back. Yes. So now that I'm not smoking, and for other reasons, we did a rebrand, and now it's called Sorry, We're Cyrus. And we just, we kind of just came back and have just started this new era of the podcast.
Starting point is 01:07:44 And it's been great because it, you know, for a lot of people that didn't smoke, they, it feels more inclusive now. Brands aren't scared of us. So there were a lot of reason that I think that it's been a good change. For sure. But it's essentially the same podcast. It's always just been a mother-daughter podcast. And we talk about mother-daughter dynamics, family dynamics, but also just things that we have in common.
Starting point is 01:08:10 My mom's very passionate about interior design. We had an interior design show a few years ago. Definitely do a little design segment in there. My mom loves giving advice. She's very good at it. So we have people sending questions and ask for advice about different things, anything from like relationships to, you know, life advice and everything. and we've been like ramping up on our guests.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Like we've had some really cool guests on and it's cool to almost keep the format loose. Kind of, I mean, your format seems so loose too. It's great because then you can just really like. So loose. And kind of see where the conversation takes you. And it's been really, and I feel like it's been really relatable. And yeah, we're excited to keep. Well, it's also cool to work with your mom and you work with your daughter.
Starting point is 01:08:51 It's also an opportunity like today to talk about hard subjects and make people less alone. And like you have so many people say, oh, my God, I love the podcast because it feels like we're just hanging out with you guys. And, you know, you're just like us. And so it's honestly really rewarding to do. I love it. Yeah. Well, cool. It's been great.
Starting point is 01:09:14 I appreciate, you know, your candor. And I think it's all important stuff to talk about. Yeah. And let me know. If you want me to be a guest, I'm down to come on the podcast. Oh, that would be amazing. I would love that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:28 100%. You can ask me anything. Okay. Great. Anything. Well, this is so fun. Thank you guys so much for coming on. And Tish will definitely connect and everyone listen to this podcast.
Starting point is 01:09:39 And I want to come on because I want to be grill. I want you guys to grill me. Oh, I can't wait. I dare you to come up with a question that I don't answer. How about that? Oh, that's good. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Just let me know. I'm down. Okay. Sounds good. Talk soon. All right, guys. Later. Yeah.
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