Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Fonzie and Family

Episode Date: October 7, 2024

TV Icon Henry Winkler shares in the revelry with his wife Stacey and daughter Zoe.The Emmy winner opens up about his home life, his fears about finances, and why he keeps a hard hat in every room of his house!Plus, what made Zoe cringe during this convo? And why do they have us asking What in the Winkler??See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling rivalry. No, no. Sibling Ravelry. Don't do that with your mouth.

Sibling Reveory. That's good. Holly, I'm excited about this next, well, there's three of them. There's three of them. These next peeps. Right, the Winks.

The Winklers. Before we start, though, I'm been working on a couple of stand-up bits. Oh, no. This is, it's, oh, God damn. Well. Oliver, no. I'm not going to do stand-up.

Wait, wait, wait, actually, hold on. What? This is interesting, but, okay, hold on. I need to digest this first thing. Okay. Why? Well, they just float around in my mind, and I thought, well, these will probably be interesting stand-up bits.

Like, that's the only reason. What have you started doing stand-up? It's too hard. If I can get enough bits in my mind. mind. Maybe I'll do it like a tight five. Oh, God, help us. Okay. Just real quick. Maybe this is where you'll get canceled finally. No, no, no, because this isn't even a dirty one. Okay. No, I'm just saying, if you became a stand-up, you would definitely at some point. Probably. Well, yeah, probably. Okay, just go. What is it? Give it to me. Okay. Or us. Give it to all of them. Yes.

So, okay, Apple, innovations of Apple, right? One of the things, of course, we all know now is these Apple memories just pop up under your phone. And it's supposed to elicit this sort of nostalgic response of, oh, my God, do you remember? And it's supposed to give us joy. When, in fact, it's fucking devastating. It makes me think that I'm old. I look at these pictures of my children. We're all going to die.

shortly the person who created this was pretty much diabolical I believe and then it's about expanding on that okay like give it to me well it's just a seed it's just a seed it's a seed I still have to get into it I like this but then I'm gonna keep you keep going like you get specific with it you know like I see

something from like 2001 you know where 2002 where I'm with my son Wilder now he's 17 years old it does is whatever's in your photos all of a sudden this music comes up and it's like you i will remember you and it's like okay holy shit i'm gonna die and how good did i look and my kids were young and they all loved me and now they fucking hate me and my son won't talk to me you know i'm supposed to feel good right now like fuck you apple well mine just it's like all my past relationships that's a good one that's a good one too right right like just like i'm like next to i'm like next to danny and like all this i's like me and chris

in paris that's good that's good i'm gonna put that in there i'll call your family relationships too oh god i love it i love it i'm like different i like look at i'm like i can't believe see my thing is is that i actually look at it maybe this isn't maybe this isn't maybe this is just a brain mechanism like a like a function of one's brain chemistry when i see it i see like wow i've done so much in five years oh no yeah i don't look back going like oh my god i'm gonna die i'm like oh look at young learn it was fun i want to go back it hurts you know what i think this you know what i'll just paint you know what i'll just paint you painful to me.

Yeah, I don't, I can't think about it like that. It's like, if, you know, I think the thing is, is that if you think too hard about what was, or if you think too hard about how, like, how, how insignificant and fast this life really is in the big scheme of things, it's really so profoundly sad that you just can't live in that. So you know, fuck it, forget it. Like, just keep going and love it, you know. Totally. You can't. But it's great for stand-up. It works. And it's going, it's, it really is moving faster. I mean, as we get older, shit gets fast. I know. You hear that when you're, I know, you're younger like, you know, just remember, it's all going to move by quickly.

And you're like, okay, in your 20s. And then now you're awesome. Oh, shit. Yeah. I think you, I think that one of the tricks is to continuously do new things. All right, let's introduce, they're in the waiting room. I love this. Yes. And I love you. I love you. Let's unpack.

Bring in the Winklers. Because they have a new podcast. We're going to talk about that too. That's right. Okay. Bring them in. Hey. Hi.

We are so happy to be doing this interview because obviously for, well, I feel uncomfortable. Well, let me. It's too close. Zoe is like across the street. And it's not Halloween. And it's not Halloween. So for all of the listeners out there, Oliver and Zoe are actually neighbors.

Literally. And Zoe and I's sons are best, best friends. So with this is like, this is like a family affair. Okay. And you, Stacey and I have stood on the sideline of many a football game. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Many a football game. And before we start, we have to say that we saw you before the summer, I think, just before the summer, on a talk show, sending your song out into the world. And you sounded amazing.

Oh, thanks, Henry. Yay. Henry, has anyone ever called you Hank? You know what? I only have one friend named Frank who calls me Hank. But he's the lead character in your book. I call the lead character and Hank Zipzer, Hank, but no one has ever called me Hank, no, except for Frank. Damn it.

I like Hank. Yeah. That's it. I think we should start calling you Hank. You just have to get a crew cut and I'll be right back. Well, Henry, I remember the first time I actually think. feel like I met you. I was 21 years old and we stayed in the same hotel and he loved a suite in this hotel that he used to stay in New York and Chris and I when I was married to Chris

loved the same room. And I think I met you in the lobby. You might not remember this. But then I, but I could, we couldn't get that room because you were in the room. No, that will never happen again. Of course, we don't stay at that hotel anymore. I none of us do. But promise you, that room is yours. Okay, got it. But it was so, it was so, it was, and I met you in the lobby.

And we talked about the room, which was, I think, the first time I had really ever talked to you like that. What huts? Do we know at hotel? I forget what the name. It was on Park. The regency. It was the regency. A lovely.

hotel. Yes. Is it still there? No. It's now called the Lowe's or something. Oh. That's true. Yeah. Henry and Stacey. You met You met in 1976 in Beverly Hills.

Where? At Jerry Magnens, at that time his very European boutique. Polo. It was. was polo no before polo uh he opened the polo store but it was called jerry magnins and it was very italian and i made enough money to buy my own sport coat and stacey um i thought worked there

and uh was happy to see me and of course she was the publicist for the store oh oh and then what was So what was your first impression of each other? Stays? You know what? My oldest son, Jed, loved him like a lunatic. And had Henry and the $6 million man on his fourth birthday cake that June. And this was in August. So I definitely knew who he was.

and he was adorable. It was cute. Sexy? Oh. Well, he was also not two sport jackets. Yes, I'm sure he was sexy. Well, how did this turn into a date? Oh, because when I went back the next week after it was fitted,

Stacey was there again, and I thought, she's there again. She knew I was coming. Then I found out she worked there. And I said, do you want to go for a soda? And we walked across the street to a silver place because I needed to buy a gift for somebody I knew in high school who was getting married. And she said, I'm not a gift service. And I said, I understand. We went to the Beverly Wilshire Hotel and had a soda.

And I said, would you like to see my new house? I had no one to show it to. Good move. Oh, that was fast. Good move. Yeah, thank you. No, no, no. She called her mom and said, this is where I'm going.

If anything happens to me, you know where I am? It was the 70s. Yeah. And how is the house? Did it, I mean, was Henry a gentleman or was he? Totally. Totally. It was very nice.

We had a good time. And I had to leave because I had a date that night. Oh. He was very actually surprised that once there, I was leaving. But we had a really good time. We got on well together. And it was lovely. He was a total gentleman.

How long did you date until you were like a couple? couple. Tell the story about what happened that dad kept calling you. I didn't know daddy was calling me. Yeah, tell the story. Okay, so we talked about Huey Lewis in the news and a book that Stacey thought I should buy ordinary people. And at that time, I didn't, I couldn't even conceive of being a producer. But the next morning, I was going to brunch at Friends House down the street. I went up to my car, I opened the car door, and there on my front seat was ordinary people and vinyl Huey Lewis in the news. How did she get into my garage? How did you get into the garage? Very bizarre. My clicker, when I, his gate was locked and I didn't want to get by.

and come down the stairs. But so I was trying to fit it under. It didn't fit. And by some stroke of insanity, I pushed my gate opener and it opened the garage. Wow. No idea. That's like, that's like a metaphor. I know.

For everything. 46 years later. Yeah. And I put it and his car. also was unlocked, and I put it on the front seat and then got out really fast. So I went to my friend's house, and I then had her phone number from the conversation the day, the day before, and I called her to thank her. And then being a little OCD, I called her again. And I called her every 10 minutes for 24 hours.

And it worked. it worked. Finally, she put the phone back on the cradle. Yeah, she took her phone off the hug. Oh, my gosh. That's so funny. Yeah. So how long, were you dating before you made love? Oliver. You're not so Christ. What? I know, Oliver. What? It's a natural question. It's a natural question. Of course it's a natural question. And I'm a natural answer. Yeah.

I'm not sure. I'm not used to. Okay, so 46 years. Definitely not on our first date, for sure. No, not like my wife. First date. No, or anybody in our family. Our family is, our family is like, let's just get it over.

Yes, which is, I like that philosophy, but no. Let's see if this really works. Must have been the second. No, maybe the third. Maybe I can't. I physically like I'm physically like. Zoe's like I physically cannot. Well, Zoe, what about you and Rob, Zoe?

How long before you made love? This is, listen, this was a bad idea, you guys. We should stop the interview now. Don't tell me, Zoe, my heart. I have never pictured my daughter making long ago. Oh, you got, gosh, angry. My favorite interview ever. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season.

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hear the other person, which I happen to... Or tune out. Great out. Which he happens to be great at. No, but I think it's almost, there's a respect to the tune out. It's like, all right, if this is how you need to cope, then I can respect that. You know, communication, obviously, is the big one. But look, you can't go 46 years without the ups and the downs.

Our parents have been together for 40 years, and it's been great. So I've been crazy. It's been great. It's been crazy. Yes, exactly. That's how it is. That's the way it is. That's a relationship. That's real life. That's real life. Exactly. I just want to say, I'm the up. I also must imagine that the relationship shifts, like the pendulum kind of shifts as sort of the season of your,

Oliver hates one. That seasons of your life. You don't like that. hip thing. Yeah. I was like, what season are you in right now? I mean, I don't know.

But, but let me say the chapters of like, you know, when you first meet, then when you start to have, when you have your first child, then when you're in the thick of it with adult children,

then when you're a grandparent, you know, it's sort of like with that must come shifts for you both. But also with the fact that let's be, be honest Henry is an actor

so it's not like he is a person who was working nine to five every day with something that you know

he went to school to do and it's a sure thing not that okay in life nothing is ever a sure thing but but so depending, and I think you, maybe you wouldn't, but it seems that the season obviously can be

interchanged with the work, the job, the feeling validated, the feeling of success of all of all of the above and probably with anybody it can be that but i would also tell you that it is true what i found out about me in a relationship specifically was about nine years ago I started therapy, and my season all of a sudden became richer and more vibrant, you know, as opposed to a young... Yeah, yeah, I love that you started therapy nine years ago. I mean, that's interesting. But they started me when I was seven. No, I know, Zoe. You and I are on, you know, we've been on Lexa Pro. We've been on all. It's okay. It's who we are on. But nine years ago, so you know, you don't have to answer this question, but, you know, obviously your persona, Henry, is just the most joyful, most sort of, you know, excitable, joie de v. kind of a guy, right? Obviously, we all have our darkness. There's no doubt about that. But why nine years ago did you feel like you needed therapy?

You know, nine years ago, I came to a place where I was. was just in a confusion. Before therapy, I see, this is my metaphor. I see the bottom of my brain stodered shut like the top of an oil can. So you know when you pour cream into coffee and it swirls and makes a different color, nothing up here swirled into down here,

down here and with therapy i was able to pry that lid off and finally enjoy the cream i like feel great right i love it yeah that's a great thing to meditate on actually it is all the actors in the room are like i love that my mom and i'm like what the fuck did he just say I know what I said. I love it. No, I really understand. Yeah, no, I do too. And it's, and it's shifted you.

I mean, it's changed you. I, I, you can ask Stacy, ask my entire family. Yes. I am a different human being. Really? I am the human being I thought of being that I could not be. It just made you better all around. You know, I saw myself as a block.

of Swiss cheese and I'm trying to become cheddar with no... Yeah, I know. I don't like Swiss cheese. I love Swiss cheese. What do you say about me? What, honey? When I was going to carry me...

The cupcake thing. Oh, oh, oh. Zoe was like a cupcake, you know, when you're baking and you put the toothpick in, make sure that it's done. You were constantly in baking mode. Yeah.

It was always doughy. It was a little wet. It was like moist. Wait, Zoe. Oh, Zoe. Zoe, when did you go to, like how old were you really

when you started going to therapy? I wasn't joking. I was maybe younger than seven. It was. No, for goodness sake. I was not eight yet. I was in first grade. And I think I was six.

Philip Berkowitz. Not so. No. It was the heavy. I can't stay now. No, that's my teens. But just from a parenting standpoint, because we, you know, we have kids and, you know, varying ages, obviously. There was an earthquake.

94? It was not 94. It was one before that. So I was 7. So it was 1987, 88. I remember that. And I would not come out from underneath the table. And at all times insisted because I would heard that if you drive around, you don't feel it.

so my our nanny at the time would drive me around the neighborhood and any time we would stop and be like no got to keep driving or ask at the table and I think at that point they were like holy shit it's happening it is so scary it's so scary oh scary and it is one I have to say it is one of my biggest fears living here in California yeah it's going to happen and that's so unsettling for someone that's already anxious is like having that lack of control. Right. Yeah. Well, I actually have a question about that because, you know, I've, in my 20s, I had gnarly anxiety attack and panic and it's sort of extended through my life, you know, and it's manageable. It's not debilitating. It can be at times. I am on medication for it. Um, there is a genetic

component to anxiety as well as my mom had it in her 20s. And then why? my oldest, it was only like three weeks or a month, but I had to pull him out of school because he said, I don't feel real. And, you know, all of the symptoms of anxiety, lucky for him, I knew what he was going through. So I was able to sort of shepherd him through it, you know, and I'm just curious about it. That is lucky. Yeah. And I'm curious about you guys, you know, especially being a different time. Mental health right now is definitely at the forefront of everyone's minds. It's not just mental health. I grew up in New York City with very out of touch and I don't know what you would even call them parents. So I promise me I would be a different parent. And whether you know what

it is, whether you're in touch with your own genetic makeup or not, you see your child. And if you really look at them, you can see there is a problem. if there is a problem, even if you don't know what it is, you can help make that child more comfortable until you figure out the problem. Yeah, but how did you deal with a child who was having anxiety? Even with Max... They locked a room when I was having anxiety attacks.

They were just locked the door and leave. What? I'm just kidding. But I will tell you, we tied you up and then left. We made, as parents, we made a mistake because we, because Zoe had a problem concentrating on focusing, we gave her medicine. And we gave her medicine that at the end of the day, when it started to wear off, made her just so uncomfortable that she just couldn't live in her own skin. Did the same with Max because at that time, we thought we were doing the right thing. And we said, do we want our children or do we want focus in good grades? We went with the children.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's a struggle because they changed. I mean, the color left their face. Really? There was also a different time. It was like Ritalin. I mean, it wasn't like children of the corn a little bit. They were, they were, it was, it was, they were so subdued.

that it was bizarre. And this is what we were told to do by several doctors. But it was literally, just as Henry said, it was, you know, because they were wonderful kids. But when I have always had anxiety, but I never took medication as a kid, I just always kind of thought I was crazy because it didn't feel like anybody else and the family did have that. Now, of course, I know that everyone was paralyzed living in our house, but at the time, you just feel a little insane.

It's a terrible feeling. It's debilitating. You can go about your business, but it's so uncomfortable. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And where are you at with that, Stacey? Do you still suffer from anxiety? No. I, yes, I am an anxious person. I'm emotional. I am a what-if kind of person. I know somebody like that, too, who's... That's true. Sitting next to your husband. Yes. Yes. Yes.

I'm better, but I still, I still, I still, I was that person who thought, well, if things are going so well, there must be something horrible. Yeah. From the corner, because this is not normal. It's too good right now. Oh, my God. I have that. Aaron, my wife, has that more than I do, but I feel that too. something's like it's too good

something bad has got to happen it's terrible Oliver never enters my mind it's a mind it's so interesting Henry just said never enters my mind that's like my mother my mother it just doesn't

it's fantastic yeah Henry does not have that he only has anxiety about germs and money and money which is so fucked I am I'm so She was also a grand larceness.

Oh, right. You were a thief. Wait, who was the thief? Me, when I use his credit card at Ron Herman, Fred Siegel, Juliana. Not abuse it. Abuse it. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season.

It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable. somewhere with charm, character, and a little local flavor.

If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host.

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and that's what I believe in. To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other, sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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And Stacy, when did you think it was appropriate to introduce him to Henry? Like, what was, what was that like? You know what? My parents were out of the country, and we were staying at their house, like house sitting. And Henry came to pick me up like a date would come to pick up. It wasn't like a relationship or anything. And we went to the movies. We went to the movies.

and I, and I, I introduce, I mean, and maybe it was because when I said to him, guess who I'm going out with? And it was, you know, his birthday cake person, he opened the front door and said, Fonzie, and Henry, who was at the time, extremely serious. What did you say, honey, when Jetty... I was panicked at the time about being typecast, so I would do nothing Fonzie

off of the show. I was Henry, and that was my character. He opened the door. I looked down this little guy... Ponzi! I said, my name is Henry. Would you like it if I called you Ralph?

And then, of course, he went into therapy. Oh, my God. You are so concerned that even a four-year-old he didn't want to be typecast by a four-year-old. Now I know you went into therapy nine years, nine years ago. That is really, really good. So, okay, so you basically met Jeb, away and then how long was it until you were living together how old was how long how long was then

that was i think a year a year later we were living together and that was like a major thing because i was very nervous about that um about the fact that that that it wasn't great going to kind of feel as permanent. But, I mean, I believe that it was, that we would, the first date that we went on, my parents, as I said, were away and I wrote down that this was who I was going to marry it on a little piece of paper and folded it and put it in my mother's jewelry box. I really felt that.

But it was a bigger deal with the child to live together. That was a big commitment. But, you know, fortunately, it worked, but it was a big deal. When you wrote that and put it in the, when you wrote that down, what were the things about Henry that you knew that this was the guy? Like what was, what was like, oh, this is the guy? What's very funny is that being born and raised here and growing up here, everybody knew that you don't necessarily go out with or expect a relationship with someone who is in the entertainment business.

What I was taken with was that he just felt more normal than anyone that I had ever met. He just felt normal. He had a great sensibility. He had a terrific demeanor. He felt calm and laid back. And I just, it just felt like, wow, this is someone really special. At the time was Happy Days, was that, was it on? Oh, yeah.

It was on. It was in its second year. But I, like, for instance, we went to the movies and Henry said, I think we should sit in the back and I said, why? And he said, I'm just, oh, as we were on our way to the movie, someone waved in the car. And Henry waved back and I said, who is that? And he was so surprised. He had no idea who it was.

That was the kind of thing that as I got to know him became a reality. that was nowhere close to a reality. Well, and Happy Days was so huge. And I mean, you're the fonts. I mean, that was like one of the biggest characters in everybody's home for years and years and years. You know, one of the great loved, what a joy that you got to experience.

It was a joy for me to play him. Yeah. For me to be with those people who are still family. They're still very, very close to. But when we went to the movies, I said, you know, I think it would be better if we sat in the back. And Stacey said, why? And I said, I don't know how to describe it to you. Just, I think it would be better if we sat in the back.

She went, why? And I said, okay. And we sat in the middle and the entire theater stood up and came over to say hello. Wow. And she looked at me and she went, oh. Hey, Henry, what was your first gig after Happy Days? Because you, I totally get it. Like, of course you love it.

You owe everything to the Fons, right? But at the same time, you're like, holy shit, fuck the Fons. I mean, I've got to get out of this. Yeah, but you know what? All I thought about was I need to get another job, not get out of it because I had so much fun. Yeah. But I couldn't get hired. Right.

And I had, I literally had psychic pain. I was sitting at my desk in my office at Paramount and I was paralyzed because I didn't know what do I do. Will it be as powerful as the Fonz? Will I ever be hired again? And my lawyer, Skip Brittenham, said, I'm going to make you a production company. And I said, well, I'm so dyslexic. I can't do that. And here's the lesson.

You don't know what you can do until you try. Because the first show, somebody came in, I went, oh, my gosh, I liked that a lot. And my partner at the time was a man named John Rich. And the first show we sold was McGiver. Really? Wow. And then have you been producing, that started a producing career? That started it.

Then we did a show called Sightings. for seven years, which was all things paranormal. Yeah. We went all over the world and either broke a myth or looked at something that people were talking about on whether it was true or not, on a show called sightings. And then what about acting? What was your gig after? Hard, really hard.

Yeah. I did a television movie eight years later that was called Abson. Strangers, which is when I started to really act again, and then it took me a long time, you know, Adam Sandler movies. Yeah, Waterboy, right. Right. Then Arrested Development. Oh, yeah.

The best. Right? And then scream. Yep. Then, you know, so slowly I work my way back and then. And then Barry. Barry. What a blessing, Barry.

I'm knocking wood. I mean, you are so fucking great. I'm not just saying that. I loved it so much. I loved that show so much. I thought it was just an amazing show. Just tonally, you know, how you can sort of, you know, marry those two tones. That's all Bill and Alec.

When you do a television show, when you do anything, you need the people who are running it to have a point of view. And then in that point of view, in the structure, comes your freedom. So real quickly, going back to your anxieties, which is finance and germs, okay? You know, you play the funds. So you have some financial freedom from that, but that's not going to sustain you, right? Then because it's so hard to get an acting gig or to find your way in that world, you're now a producer. I actually am producing now. I have a deal at Fox and it's really, really fun from a creative place.

But the only way you're going to make money is if that show actually goes. That's exactly. So were you financially strained for a while? In my mind, I am always financially strained. Not so I feel. I am not kidding. Really? I am relaxing a little bit.

But now with my partner, I have written 40 children's novels. Our newest one comes out in October. That was a time filler and it became another profession. But it's also, Henry, it is who you are because you reinvent in all these different areas. It's an amazing quality because you can't bear to be still. His work ethic is the craziest thing I've, I mean, I don't really follow. On. Beyond.

I don't want to follow it. May I ask, Zoe, as you sit there and we, you know, I can't help but think, like, what, do you ever feel the pressure of, like, what your parents have done as, like, the matriarch and patriarch as the family and being together? I mean, you have a, you've had a very long relationship with your husband. and you guys are solid and awesome and great. But like, do sometimes does it ever feel like hard to live up to? First of all, I have to be amazing. So I already, I feel like everyone, I live up to it. But no, I swear, and I think it's because of the way they raised us.

I really do. And also, I didn't go into that business. So I think that that's something. I followed my mom's footsteps in that my mom, you know, started two nonprofits. and, you know, worked on the commission under Clinton and did all of this amazing stuff. So I followed in her footsteps, so I never wanted to be an actress ever, ever, ever. I almost made a mistake when I was offered the Bachelorette and I said yes. And then my dad was like, no, she won't do that.

And then I like, you know. That would have been the best. Oh, my God. I would have given anything to see that. I did go to a show with Kim Kardashian and Sarah Howard called Quarter Life Crisis. The producer flew out here. Matt Hannah and I shot the sizzle reel and then my dad said please come to our house. I'd like to meet you and my dad said please go inside and I went inside and I came back out and

Matt Hannah said, okay, I guess we're all done. I guess you're not doing the show and I was like, what do you mean? And my dad was like, and so my parents protected me in that way because I think that that would have been such a disaster, but I feel no pressure ever. I feel only pride in them. I do want to say, I think sometimes like for Max, my brother, the director and a director and a writer um who told us that he was going to do that at 10 yeah and and by the way when my dad was auditioning for barry he ran all the lines with max and max yeah i really feel like i i could see like him feeling pressure maybe and he doesn't either and i think that that's because like my parents always told us from the time we could understand like you can do and be anything you can

you know like it was always like we were they were very very strict but we could have any conversation with them. If you tell the truth, you never get in trouble. And they never made us feel like, you know, my dad's life was very much like it wasn't, it was because of the work that he did. It had nothing to do with us. And it wasn't ours. And we never took it on, really.

I mean, I would use it. What about emotionally? What about in terms of their relationship? Like your mom and dad and being together for 46 years and. Yeah, I mean, that I feel like I think I had like such a beautiful model and I'm so grateful. And my husband's family, same thing. You know, high school, sweethearts, they've been married. And I feel, I feel very lucky.

Like I, but I am so close to my parents that, you know, when I have a fight with my husband, I call them crying. And I'm like, you know, I'm so angry. And, you know, like, I, how many times a day do you call them? Not that one. I'm very reactive. And so I feel like, you know, it's like a very good. But I don't, I feel like they've shown, they've set a bar, but I feel like when, even if I've, like, made mistakes, they've never made me feel shame about.

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Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What are the things that you take from being raised by them that you implement in your family with your children? That's a good question. Kindness. Like that comes first. The mental well-being of my children and their ability, they're like, that is before grades before anything else.

Treating people with respect, being kind. to everyone. Nobody is better than you and also you're not better than anyone. And family dinners, we sat down, you know, Monday through Thursday, we had dinner together and that's something we do, giving back. That my kids can, you know, talk to me about anything. It doesn't mean that I'm necessarily going to change my mind, but I want them to always feel, and I've always said to my kids, if you tell the truth, you won't get in trouble. I mean, so many things, so many things that I you know and Zoe is very close also with Stacy and they are very funny together and so they're going to try and do this wonderful podcast together yeah that's we were going to get

into that which is yeah no it's so great because watching even watching your you know stories and all your Instagram stuff it's almost a natural progression into an actual podcast unless you're the one who's being filmed and you don't know it. I like to be like the dark horse. Like I'm actually the comedic genius in the family and the director because all my stories are. Our house was not like, you know, St. Mary's. It was, we were all doing the best we could. So it was, our kids also saw that we.

that we blew it many times. We would be overreactive. We would, you know, go to your grounded or whatever it was. And they would have disagreements, which I think is like the best thing, because I saw that, like, you can fight and the world isn't going to end. Right. You know, we would have disagreements and there would, and so my dad would mediate the disagreements between my mom and I.

He would sit in the middle in their bedroom. He would sit, she would sit in the bed and he would sit on the chest lounge him, he would be like, I think what you're trying to say, you know, and my mom and I would just like, oh, my God. That would never happen in our family. It barely did in hours. Oh, my God. So, but your podcast is on IHeart, on our, on our lovely, uh, I Heart Radio. And it's called What in the Winkler. Released October 30th, by the way. October 30th.

My birthday. Your birthday. That's your birthday. Yeah. Ooh. Is that on purpose? we i wanted it to be called um seeing red because my mom and i are both redheads and super fiery i like that i know but we like what in the winkler too yeah yeah what in the winkler's cute i like it it's cute it's cute

i love seeing red is a great title though for what somebody saw um hallie meyer shire actually came up with what in the winkler nancy meyer's daughter oh wow cute so why did you want to start a podcast well people so some people saw my instagram and they were like this is so funny you should do a show you know you should do a reality show and it didn't really like that wasn't really like comfortable for any of us so we were thinking like how could we do it and then my mom and I and our relationship has had so many different seasons oh god here we go seasons where did this go well hold on what's a multi-seasonal family Listen, Oliver, just get with the new season.

How long is the season buzz thing been around? Like a year? Like, no, like two years. Yeah. I literally actually just said this to Rob about like our relationship and like how we're have three young kids and we're just like so in it right now. And this is the season. And he was like, where the fuck did you hear that?

And I was, I know, I know from Kate. And I thought it was great. I kind of like it because it, I mean, it's look, it's a good, it's a good. good way to communicate a change in direction or energy. Yeah, but you can have a season like three seasons in a day. You can go through. Yeah. Yeah. And maybe I will. That's what I'm saying. But a season, it says it's like, oh, there's a period of time as a season, but we don't exist. He doesn't come back. No, I know, but what I'm saying, Zoe is, you know, you can be in a season, the season today and your season is shifted tomorrow.

No one has, their seasons don't have a time limit. Yes, but real seasons do. It's also like that's not how work. Real seasons do have a time limit. That's not,

around three to four months. But you're creating, that's not how you speak of it. It's more just like, it's more just like a broader, you gotta look beyond. I think it's, he knows,

he just hates it. I think it's wrong. It doesn't, the connotation makes no sense. Well, we have also been known to have three or four seasons within an hour's time.

So I get where you're both coming from, but it's a nice definition. What things do you want to tackle in the podcast? Like what are you excited about getting into? Like for me and for my mom, I think it's such an amazing thing that we get to have this memory together and that we get to sit. We talk, we talk, I sit in that in her dressing room, which you see behind her. And we just talk. And that's where we all come. My dad comes in there.

My brothers come in there. We all come in, the wives, the husbands, the kids. And we just sort of like talk in there. And I think we have the ability to be really honest with each other. And so our life, and I think you guys can relate to this, was bizarre and also normal and also, you know, wild. And I think people always ask, like, what was it like having, you know, And I think my answer was always like, oh, well, what's it like having your dad is your dad, you know? And then I realized that maybe that wasn't like the nicest way to respond because I don't.

So, Zoe, actually, were you, were you, did you embrace your dad being famous or was it, or were you to, do you shy away from it? When it worked for her. Oh, really? Like a garden tool. Really? Yeah. To get into like clubs? Oh, yeah.

But then when somebody, like, when I would be in the middle of a conversation, someone would come up to him and I'd be like, oh. and he would be like, watch your mouth. Like, how do you think you get to, you know, you know, and so I, but yeah, I loved it. I very much, I didn't. I mean, I, when I went to college, I hated it. And I felt like you have this thing where like everybody knows you, but you don't know everybody. Because everyone thinks like you're going to be this way. And then I spent all this time proving I was some other way that it was almost like,

pathetic. Well, what about you, Stace? Like, wow, what do you want to get out of this? What do you love about? You know what? To be utterly, totally honest, I really have not gone there. I love the fact that I get to have this time with Zoe. She makes me laugh so hard and I just take each thing kind of as it comes. I don't want to overthink it

because it feels like I don't want to take it so seriously. I think whatever is

the situation somehow it will evolve or it won't but I love right now just having I get that

I totally get that because you know we've been doing this for years now we love talking to you guys we love talking to our various guests

but I think the greatest gift of the podcast, other than the small amount of money that I get to survive. It's about having time with Kate and having an hour or two hours or however long it is to sort of converse, to talk to people, to learn even more about each other than we didn't even know. I think the great angle for you guys is the mother-daughter thing as well. I mean, I think that's an important relationship, hearing how authentic and how candid you guys all. or about your life. Yeah, and how you're, like, especially when it comes to raising kids and raising kids in environments that can be challenging or keeping your kids, you know, grounded, also talking about all the work that you do, all of the important work that you're doing.

I think it's going to be, wonderful, I can't wait to listen to. Yeah, and then just throw your dad under the bus for some headlines. I make relief. That has to make a, he has to have his own little section. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's called wink-wink, and that's when dad comes in. That's right. Wink-wink, wink, and then dad comes in to give a little, like, truth serum.

Right. Hold on. Let's ask wink-wink. Or how about wink-wink is a segment of he's telling either a true story about his life or he's made up. Then you have to guess. Good one. That is true. Oliver's filled with ideas. I got ideas. My kids are obsessed with Ollie. Like, they just show up and they're like, any bikes that we could ride?

Any ramps? Oh, my God. they love my garage they said they have my bike for years here they have it now i think right yeah it's you have my bike i love it because he's like so i know and then giving max a shout out though max is directing a cool movie right no he is uh he's been running a television show oh which show and the he did american horror stories yeah he did feud that's right Ryan Murphy's about the he works for Ryan

yeah a lot um and now and and pretty soon he oh he the Menendez brothers he directed Javier Bardem that's it and then Javier Bardem invited him for dinner

and I said can I drive I'll wear hacks he'll be afraid I'll open the door I'll ring the bell yeah that's cool he's killing it I also think of his name is, he's a really good actor.

Oh, that's so nice to hear. That's great. He's been working so hard at it for so long. He deserves that. That's so awesome. Well, I love you guys. Thank you for having us. This is so great.

And October 30th. What is the Winkler? What in the Winkler? What is a Winkler? What in the Winkler? What in the Winkler? Winkler, October 30th. Everyone checked that out.

Exactly. Are you having guests at all? We'll have guests once in a while. We'll have guests. All right. Well, I want to be on. Really? I want you to be on.

This was a lovely conversation. This was so much fun. It was great. I don't have to overcompensate for Oliver because you know him, but I will apologize for how inappropriate he was in the beginning. Well, Zoe, how long before you and Rob made love? Okay, we're done. he was in this house actually I'm just kidding

I'm just kidding I'm joking that Max set of sheets by the way Max did Max did thank you for your perfect we love you guys so much

love you thank you thank you on Halloween see you on Halloween oh so sweet family I know, Henry, he's just the sweetest. He's the sweetest.

He's the sweetest man. And I love that he wasn't, he's been nine years ago. He's like, I'm going to do therapy. I know. But it's just great. It speaks to this idea that it's never too late to get better. I know. To work on yourself.

I love his metaphors. He loves like metaphor. I love the coffee and the cream. Oh, and the cupcake. Yeah, the cup cake. She's always baking. I wanted to say it. I was like wet.

You're always moist or wet, but I didn't. I know. The mom said that, Stacey said that. I didn't say that. It's very inappropriate. Stacey said that I didn't say that. I know, I know, but I wasn't even thinking that. That's just because to show what your male, the male brain.

No. I wasn't thinking that at all. But now I am. No, thanks. Yes. But honestly, we know them so well. They're a wonderful family. Yeah.

And really, you know, honestly, Henry and Stacey, Henry's so wholesome. Ice crazy. You know, but, but then when you get to know him, you realize, you know, he's had a, he's had such an interesting life and, and, and as, as time goes on, yeah, I mean, but as time goes on, you realize what does the younger generation even know of happy days? Probably not. You know, it's really our generation, maybe some millennium. Well, Ryder's 20, right? Yeah, Gen Z. Like, I don't think Ryder knows who the Fonz is.

He was such an anomaly. It was huge. Huge. Like it was like And think about it There was like three TV stations back then 40 million people watching a TV show And happy days Gary Marshall

Yeah Gary Marshall my man Yeah If you're in the Gary Marshall family It's a thing Yeah He was the best He was such a brilliant

man and like such a loving Oh Gary was the best Yeah Oh Good family It's funny They're so entertaining.

Yes. They're just nuts. They're all nuts and in the best possible way. And it's just so fun to watch them. I knew that's why they started the podcast. Because Zoe would on her on our Instagram would always have these funny-ass stories with her and her mother. You know. Well, I'm excited to see how it translates into the podcast.

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