Fortune and Price Feimster
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01:57No, no.Sibling revelry.Don't do that with your mouth.Sibling revelry.That's good.Okay, Oliver.It is Pride Month.Pride Month.
02:20And the Supreme Court just ruled that a landmark civil rights law protects gay and transgender workers from workplace discrimination.So that happened today. We are recording this intro today. When this airs, it will be a couple days later. It will be on Wednesday. But such a huge day. And I have to say, I'm just so grateful that the Supreme Court ruled for this and that it just gives me a lot of hope.It was a great, it's a great day. We're at the tipping point of history. Yeah, it's exciting. We get to experience it and we get to sort of be.a part of it. It's exciting when you when something like this happens because we're talking aboutdiscrimination where we're we're living in this in the middle of a time of of racial injusticeof, you know, LGBTQ plus communities still still dealing with discriminatory laws that untiltoday you could be fired for being LGBTQ in 26 states.It's fucking insane.
03:30But being a part of this change just gives me hope.And it was funny because we were doing these episodes.We did Kate Shots last week.And then we were going to do Khalil, who we just interviewed today, which was incredible.And we had a two-hour history lesson.And I just felt like I really wanted to put Fortune's episode out in celebrationof the LGBTQ plus communityand this moment in history
04:04and she's just hilariousand her brother's amazing as well.They grew up in North Carolinaoutside of Charlotte,crazy stories about their childhood.They opened up about their parents' divorceand remember the storyabout Fortune on the swim team?
04:19Oh, yeah.She's so great.She's so genuineand just their...No, there's, yeah, they're both.There's just no bullshit, you know?I mean, it's, they're just, they're not affected in any way with her success right now or fame.She is still the girl she always was.
04:42I also love that their names are fortune and price.Yeah.You know, it's, the price of fortune.That's the book they should write together.Right.But we recorded this one right before quarantine.So this was one of our last ones that we did.I know.
04:57I miss.so much. I miss people. I miss doing it in person. I do too. I do too. Fortune has a Netflixspecial called Sweet and Salty. If you haven't watched it yet, check it out. I love sweet andsalty. I love Fortune. I love Price. Enjoy this episode.Welcome to our podcast. Thank you. It's so nice to have you on. We want it. We usually just startwith kind of asking where you guys came from. You know, where were you?you born and where did you grow up?Where you were conceived. All right.
05:30Well, my parents would share that if they were here.Yeah, they're very good.Yes.They don't hold much bad.They tell you the date, the location, everything.You don't know where you were conceived.Oh, I know where I was.I just, you know, I try not to think about it.
05:42Oh, okay.Our parents are divorced by the way.Right. Okay.Broken home.Broken home.Broken home.They're still friends, though.Those broken homes.
05:52Yeah.Yeah, we're from North Carolina from a small town called Belmont.Like, where's Belmont?It's like 30 minutes from Charlotte.Very tiny town.I think when we were coming up, it was like 5,000 people.Now I think it's doubled.It's 10,000.
06:08It's a cute little town, though.Did you grow up in a nice neighborhood?Yeah, definitely middle class.I would say middle class.Now, Fortune can, you know, delve into this a little more.Our parents, especially our mom, she thought we wanted to be perceived as upper class.And so it's what that means.Because she grew up with a lot of money.
06:30Yes.And then our family lost all their money.Yes.Gambling.Gambling.Gambling.We had someone in the family who gambled.It was through a series of different bad business decision.
06:42Because our grandfather was a very talented, well-known contractor in North Carolinabuilt all the schools and all these houses all over North Carolina.And then he died and people were not very.smart with money. So by the time we came up, there was no money, but my mom didn't get thememo. So she liked to live like we had money. And we'd have like the lights were shut off.And she'd be like coming home like, look, this was on sale. And you're like, we don't havelights right now. So it was a very interesting childhood. Did she ever come out of that?I mean, did she ever like discover reality? Or was she just like, I'm just going to live.
07:26this way for the rest of my life it's easier what would you say price is she kind of stilllike some shop i would yeah i would say so so we had so we had like we lived in a big house becausein north koreland though that's you can get it's so much different there's houses for so muchcheaper uh but then like our house would be uh like no heat no light yeah no food yeah in refrigerator so andour dad was, it's interesting, my mom grew up with everything. And, you know, I think they hadpeople make food for them, you know, they drove them everywhere. I mean, it was a life of privilege.They had a lot, a lot of money. Yes. My dad, on the other hand, came from the other side of thetracks, as they said, where he had nothing. He was like a trailer. And so it was, yeah, and so
08:17those two worlds met, and you can only imagine why my. He was the bad boy. Yeah, he was the badI like those guysBut your dadYour dad got to experience money and wealthFor a period of timeYeahYeah because they had like a really extravagant weddingAnd I don't he hadn't even
08:39He had never even had a birthday cakeUntil my mom made him one when he was like 17Like he had a very different upbringingThey were high school sweetheartsBroke up in college and then got back togetherafter college what he didn't go to college she did he joined the navy but she as she as she says it waslust and uh we're like okay all right uh whatever how did that how did that affect your dad sort ofcoming into a lot of dough like that and then once you guys lost it all was he because you know
09:19was he okay with that meaning this is where he sort of came from heto handle it. Well, I have been told that our grandmother, she's dead now, so she can't arguewith me. I've been told she tried to pay him off to not marry my mom. Like, you look atsoap opera stuff back then. She offered him money to not marry her and he probably regretsthat decision now. He could have gotten some money. But he married her anyway. But then ended upbecoming very close with her. And I think once themoney was gone he he was used to that so it wasn't like oh like i'm out of heregod money just goes yeah it really what what this is just interesting to me i mean if
10:04someone is it was it one person who gambled away a family fortune and was it sportsit was one person it was one person who uh got into a lot of trouble and my grandmother wasbailing him out of these situationsand so it justkept happening and happeningand that didn't get rid of all the money but it wasa big chunk of it and thenthey owned a
10:31because he was a contractor he also owneda hardware store that did really wellbut then the Home Depot'sstarted coming in the lows and itmy grandmother was too proud toclaim bankruptcy soshe paid off every single debtand it just wiped her clean
10:47and just aseries of bad business decisions she sold off the other side of the american dream yeah it really isit was a real testament i think to us to like you got a like nothing's guaranteed like you can be atone place in life and anything can happen so you really have to be smart and not go crazy likei think we're all pretty responsible with money now yeah i agree because i think it did instillresponsibility in us because we did kind of see, you know, at the time when there was, you know,we're prosperous and, you know, doing a lot of things and had more opportunities. We were a memberof the country club, that kind of stuff. And then when it all went away, we saw the other spectrum
11:32of that. How old were you guys when it, when that shift happened? It was a, it was like a gradualthing. Don't you? Yeah. It was. I would say the difference in age between all of us is I'm theoldest. I've got a middle brother who's three years younger than I am. And then there's a sixyears difference between myself and fortune. And so I would say I was probably, what, 12 in that area?Wait, this is exciting. So you're the only girl and two brothers. Don't you know when you meetgirls who have brothers? Oh, 100%. It's like you know them right away. You're like, okay, she hasbrothers and sisters. Because there's a toughness there. It's so true. And anybody that I knew who justhad a sister was always they're like they were a little daintier you know i used to laugh at my friend
12:19who would like fight with her sister they'd be like you stop it no you stop it i'm like this is itwe were punching each other wrestling it was very rough and tumble so growing up it was rough andtumbled with the two boys oh we were sports guys we were we were you know we were boy boysso playing the woods scouts and i just wanted to do whatwhatever they did.Yeah, I was about to say, where did fortune fit into that once she was of age to sort of roll with you guys?I refused to do whatever they were doing.I was like, I'm doing it.
12:54And they were like, but you're little.And I'm like, I don't care.And all the boys in the neighborhood, everybody in the neighborhood was all boys too.So I was just like.This is my life.In a constant state of like being hurt.I know.I come home with like a busted limb.
13:10I'm fine.I'm one of the guys.I think my brotherOther brother were likePunched me in the stomachI always felt likeI had to do thingsThat were better than what they were doing
13:24Like if they were jumping offOf this like dirt moundLike I'd do the higher oneYeah I would tryBut I was always getting hurtAnd were you guys acceptingOr were you sort of like leave us aloneThe more leave us alone
13:38YeahHe was better about itBecause he was furtherlike he ended up kind of taking on more of a dad role like uh well because our dad traveled a lot sohe was always the one teaching me how to play like you know he'd play catch with me or he was waymore patient with me i think because jay and i were closer to age he was like oh get out of herebut i remember like if he he was obviously the first one to have like a girlfriend i wouldsit in between them all the time like watching movies and he could have been like get out of here
14:11and he would just let me sit therewhich I can't believe in hindsighthe wasn't more likeyou suck leave us alonethat's the cutest thingyeahwe did that a lotactually the girlfriend
14:25always looked at meshe always going to be right hereand you're working onand your middle brother's name isJay and so you and Jaywhat was that relationship like comparedwe fought a lot moreyeah
14:40because I waswould be annoying and he would pick he picked on me a lot and the two of them would gang up on me forsure oh the worst was i don't think i've ever told him with a story we went to uh Orlando and thiswas back when you know sea world was really popular and it was the worst thing that's everhappened to me because we went to see shamu the whale so afterwards they started calling meshamu and i was like i'm not a whaleSo that was my nickname for the next, like, six years.No, that's terrible.
15:16I was Hammerhead.Oh, yeah.Because my eyes were so far apart when I was little.Oh, really?Yeah, so Ollie called me Hammerhead and Dumbo because of my ears.We heard of Shermanhead Shark, because their eyes were on either side.It's crazy what brothers come up with.They're such assholes.
15:36Yeah, there's such assholes.We never called...Well, see, we got a reaction.out of her.That was the thing.She hated it so much.Like,ah,
15:43she doesn't like it.Let's do it.I tell it to my kids all the time.Just nod and say,yeah,I am that.Because all he wants right now is your reaction.And the minute you don't give it to him,
15:54he's going to stop.But they can't fucking listen.Yeah,and they don't know that one or young.It's too fiery.Ollie used to go out to the door and be like,Kate,it's kind of windy outside.
16:04You might,you might blow away.Right.My ears.Yeah.I gave her,I gave her wind.I gave her wind warnings, you know, morning wind forecast.
16:14Just so the wind wouldn't pick her up by her ears and take her away.Oh, my gosh.That was awesome.And I would always be the like, mom, he called me this.Did you guys get spankings?Oh, we got his main house.Yeah, every now and then.But when we got, as we got bigger, you know, they would, it was normally, you know, every now and then the belt would be broken out.
16:35That's old school.Yeah, that's old school way.And then, of course, you know, and I don't know.In the South, they have the switch, the stick, and every now.But then I was always a big kid.So I was, like, six foot tall at, like, 13 years old.With the mustache.So my dad tried at one time, and I literally took it from, like, don't do that again, Dad.
16:54That was the end of the...My dad's like, okay.Yeah, because I just grew very quickly as a young child.Yeah, you grew only seventh grader with a mustache.Yes, I did have a...Amazing.Puberty started early for it.But we always...
17:09We would still have fun with each other, too.Like, we would give each other the middle finger.Oh, yeah.And they'd be like, Mom!You know, we would be doing it to each other and be like, hey, price, give me the middle finger.And she's like, price.And I'm all like, ah, ha.Yeah.
17:25So the middle finger was one of those things that was such a fun thing to discover.Remember when you were like, how are you going to do the middle finger?Is it going to be like this?Or is it going to be like this?If you did that, we're like, what's cool?Like, that was cool.for us.Yeah, this was the cool one.
17:41That was like, you don't know what you're doing.Yeah, but now this one's more bad at it.Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.For those who can't, for those who can't see,it's like when you get that, yeah, you get that full extension.Whereas before, you're like, nah.Right.But it was like so, like, we thought we were being so, like, cool to give each other
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21:28or enter code Sibling at checkout.That's Saka-K-A-R-A-R-A-com slash siblingto get 20% off your first order,saccarra.com slash sibling.Did you always live in the same house growing up?Yeah, we lived in that house, so I was 18.When I went to college, they sold it.And then my mom, my grandmother had died,
21:53and so my mom moved into my grandmother's,the house she grew up in.she moved into that house.But it was big.It was, that was the fancy house that she grew up in.So it was like almost 6,000 square feet.And half of it hadn't been lived in in like 20 years.So it was very creepy.
22:11I'm pretty sure they're ghost in here.Is it still in the family?No, we ended up selling it like five years later.It was just too big.It was just my mom and her brother.And my grandmother had like lots of antiques.So it looked like an old like French parlor.and like which was cool but then you would go to the upstairs and like all the bedrooms are empty and oh yeah it was sad to lose the house because my grandfather built it but it was kind of creepy for me so I was like what was the style it was a big brick house big open windows with chandeliers everywhere spiral staircase yeah I was going to say with the entrance of the house it was one of those kind of I call like a Charleston theme where you have the big staircases where you know the lady is
22:57is, you know, coming down the stairs.It's one of those where you could almost present, you know,here comes fortune down the stairs.It was kind of like that.She's here for Santa.Yeah.What is your brother's middle name?His name's John William, so he goes by Jay.
23:14Fortune and Price are your middle names.Yes, yes.I'm Emily Fortune and yeah, you're Michael Price.Our dad's name is Mike or Michael Lee Feimster.And my mom didn't want to have two.Mike's or Michael's.And our grandfather's name was Price.And so that's where I got the name
23:32Price is a great name.Yeah, it is.Did you decide that you wanted to be calledPrice or did that just happen?No, it was just I was born with.And then what's interesting, when people, like,when you meet people for the first time,no, it's like, is that your last name?
23:48I'm like, no.And then they're like, well, do you go by Pierce?Price.Bryce?Yeah, there's not a lot of prices.Oh, yeah. So college professors would always just kind of mess with me and say, well, what's your real name?Price. And well, how do you spell it? And they could not do the P-R-I-C-E. Everybody wanted to spell it something different or add the B to it. And I've been called Prince. I've been called Pierce. I've been called Prince. I've been called Prince. And then Fortune. So for my wife gets on me, I don't correct people.So if you call me Prince. Price is a nice thing. Yeah.
24:22It's so great.I like you prints from it.So Fortune is my great-grandmother's maiden name.But I grew up as Emily.That was my mom's favorite cousin's name.And my mom always wanted a really girly girl.She wanted a girl, but I had like 50 dresses before I was even born.And so I was Emily growing up.
24:45And I started going by Fortune when I was 23 because my grandmother really wanted my mom to name mefortune because and it's such a cool name it's such a cool name but my mom said that I would you knowshe's like no way she'd have to be Miss America to live up to a name like that you're likewatch this mom and I was like yeah come on so as when I got older I was like I really want to startgoing by fortune it was kind of like a nod to my grandmother because she was a big influence on mebut I I did think that you could be like fortune on stage and Emily in life and it just doesn'tquite work out like that. When did you decide to go all in on fortune? I think it was around 24. I startedat the groundlings and I kind of as an experiment just I was like I'm going to tell them my name's
25:34fortune and I told them and at the end of class they had a game where we sat in a circle andeveryone tried to it was like a name game try to remember everyone's name and I was the only name thatliterally every person in the class remembered and I was like I have a pretty cool middlename. I should probably start using this. There was three of three or four of them. They called them themisfortunes. Uh, like, wow. That's great. Yeah. So there's a lot of fortunes in our family,but with the last name. And where'd you go to college? I went to, I got my undergrad at a collegecalled UNC Charlotte and I've got a master's degree from Winthrop University as well. And so I'veeducated myself over the years. Comedy was not in my card. So I had to.
26:22I went to a small women's college in Raleigh called Peace College.Peace.I know it sounds very hippie.The founder was the last name was Peace, William Peace.That's so cute.I know.Everyone's like, oh, it's like hippie.What's the philosophy of the college?
26:39It's a liberal arts school.It's really, it's very small, like 1,000 at most, 800 maybe.It used to be a two-year college, and then it went to four-year.it's co-ed because it's hard to keep the you know women's colleges are kind of a dying breedbut it was like right near nc state so all the girls were looking for husbands and it was just likeit almost felt like a different time everything felt very innocent and like like one big sororityalmost where you're just like going to class in pajamas when did you know you were funny i mean as a kidwere you were you always making everyone laugh or or i had moments of it but i wasn't like no one
27:22would have been like oh she's known for the for being the funny one i could be like i wasanimated around my family but kind of quiet at school and then uh i would i would watchstarting out live all the time so i would memorize those sketches and then do them for my friendsat school on monday they were like oh you're funny i mean i was just ripping off other people'smaterial uh but i had to grow into it i wasn't like people now are like well she all is funny they'relike no she she wasn't like the ham no I mean and that's the thing she's kind of quiet and justkind of kept to herself because what's interesting our dead's really funny and he makes theselittle stupid jokes that you know kind of they're so silly you just kind of laugh at them my brother's
28:10the same way and you know with fortune she just kind of you know it was a reserve but when she didperform for people I mean it's like a different person like oh my gosh she was this personAnd so when people ask family, the question is like, oh, is your sister funny?I mean, well, yeah, she's brilliantly funny, you know, but when she's around family, it's just, we're just talking to spam.But did you get off on it, meaning like that feeling of making people laugh, like, holy shit, this just feels good.I want to keep doing that.Well, I think I was always a chubby kid.I've always been a big girl.
28:46And so when I was young, I don't think I wanted people to look at me because I felt very,you know fat and so uh yeah well your brother calling you yeah yeah mood in hell rightyeah thanks a lot guys so i think it was the only it was the way i was comfortable with peoplelooking at me laughter with me i was in on the joke you know uh so it was a way for me to communicatewith people and so it wasn't as much like oh my god this feels so good like making them laugh it wasIt's like, oh, this is how I can fit in.This is how I can have friends.And so then it became, I was never the outcast then in that way.
29:28You know, I never got picked on because I was the person making everyone laugh.Wow.Right.Yeah.So it was my way of just survival, I think, you know?Yeah.That's interesting, you know what I mean?Like, it's...
29:40Well, I'm glad I found it, you know?Well, it's funny you talk about, you know, using comedy that way or being funny and how it sort of helped you getthrough and to be accepted and you know i'm not a comedian but i love making people laugh it's alwaysbeen you know a joy right but only recently in the last year i've realized that sometimes i will useself-deprecation to sort of mask a potential inadequacy oh yeah and i will make fun of myselfin some way whether it be my career or showing your ass on instagram i have seen that it's niceI wonder what inadequacy that that's covering him.No, that's adequate.
30:24That's inadequate ass.But only recently I was, I discovered that about myself.Yeah, probably like some sort of insecurity.Yeah, I'm going to make the joke before anyone else can make it or think it.Right, but I do self-deprecation, I think, self-humor is huge.I mean, I think it's a necessity.Yeah, for sure.For me, it's like we had a very interesting,
30:49childhood we have a very wacky family it was like why not just like dip into this personal stuff thenyou're never like telling the stories that other people have told because they're your storiesand so for me my comedy I want to be relatable I don't want to be like this kind of comic or thiskind of comic I'm like I'm gonna tell you stories and no matter what your background is you're gonna beable to relate to something yeah and so that especially with my special I did that the whole thingwas one big storytelling thing.And when I started comedy,it used to be a lot more self-deprecating
31:25because I wanted people to like me.This special has some of it in the beginning,but then I really go away from itand then just talk about it's a journey of someone finding themselves.And I did a lot of the wrong thing,or I would try things thinking,this is who so-and-so wants me to be.And it would, of course, not work
31:47because I wasn't being my true self.Does she ever, has she ever, have you come up in her comedy?Well, has she told the stories?No, you're like, oh, fuck.Don't do that, please.The brothers have said, hey, leave us out of it.But, of course, our parents love it because they think they're celebrities anyway.And so when my mom and dad, anytime they mention their names and all that, they're just kind of like, oh, my gosh.
32:11They light up.They light up.I go, you do know that story is not a great story, but they're like, we don't care.but you guys asked to stay out of it like you actually had the conversation like we don't wantanything to talk about i don't think informally yeah i mean you know with the hooter story stuff isgreat that all was based on our you know family going to hooters and it happened you know what'sfunny about the hooter stuff is great wings great wings for one but when we were my brotherand i were younger we used to run these 10k races we weren't runners i mean we just thought it was
32:46cool to run a long race so we did and our celebration was go to hooters right so next thing you knowwe're going to hooters now we're 13 14 year old boys going to hooters and that's how that was likesix yes exactly going to hooters absolutely so that's how our family started going to hootersyeah and so it was like why not talk about these things because they're funny you know andi i said one joke about them in my special i don't ever like name you guys right uh butBut I just go, oh, I came out to my brothers, and they were like, duh.And I was like, well, thanks for telling me.Apparently, they knew a lot.
33:24Way before I did.Well, again, back to our, you know, when we talked a little earlier about her hanging out with us, we were playing soccer, baseball, softball.She was always there.When we'd go to church, you know, she'd want to dress kind of like, you know, the button-down shirt, no dresses.You know, we never saw her with guys.We never saw, there was never a date or somebody, you know, let's go hang out on, no talk of a guy or anything like that.But you were never feeling even a 12, 13 year old lust for female, you know what I mean?I did, but I, it was masked in angst of like, that's my best friend.
34:06I love her so much.I'm such a good friend.You know, it was, I just thought I was.super intense about friends you knowthere go are youmy mom would be like what oh my godyeah it was just always like she waitshe's going out with a guy
34:25but doesn't she know her best friendslike it was very angstybut it was a different timeyou know they're just especially in our smalltown people didn't really talk about being gayit wasn't uh it wasn't the thing like nowit's just like oh yeah so and so's gay whatever you're likeit was not a thing i didn't we didn't know
34:44any out gay people. Was there anyone in your school or whatever? That was like, you might. Now we knowthat they were back in the day. Yeah, they weren't out. And you hear a reference in theCarolinas, we live in the Bible Belt. Well, that's simply because there's so many churcheson every corner where you go. And people are, gosh, I'm not going to get in trouble here,but a lot of people say they're very religious when they're not really religious, but they havethese beliefs because the church believes in, you know, gays and lesbians all, you know, they're the devil.you know but even though they're friends and they like the person and all that there's kind of a double standardespecially where we came from without a doubt yep without a doubt i think that's across the board
35:24yeah yeah true very good it wasn't like i felt like like i wasn't hearing negative things it wasn'tlike people were going oh gay people were the devil they legitimately weren't talking about itdid you really discover that you were gay through a lifetime movie i really did that fucking trueI talk about it in my Netflix special tooI tell a story about realizing I was gay via Lifetime movieWhich I've done one by the wayI did one called Carolina Moon by the wayWhat's that?
35:56You did?YeahCarolina MoonYeah I had a line I saidClaire was with a girl named Claire ForlaniHe was an actress and she's driving awayShe stops and it's rainingI run to the rain
36:09That's what's upYou know, oh, oh, it's one of those.And I said, I said, I will, the line was, I will travel to the ends of the earth if that's where you're going.That's right.That's what I said.That is so lifetime.And then she gets out of the car and it's raining.We're literally spinning around in the rain.
36:25I hope that's, I hope you.Carolina moon.Just need to put that on your website.It's true.But so a lifetime movie gave you some sort of.Yeah, well, I think it was bubbling.You know, I was, I had moved to L.A. at this point, and it was bubbling up, you know.You can only hold this down.
36:41Well, you made you L.A.I mean, how, you know.Well, that was the big thing.I was finally seeing gay people.I was seeing how normal it was.Yeah, you went, you had some drinks at the abbey.Yeah.And you're like, oh, this brunch seems fun.
36:55What am I doing at church with all the straighties?I want a waffle.Yeah, so it was bubbling up.And, you know, I think it was like sitting right here.Like, he was ready to just.to be like and the catalyst it's so embarrassing and I didn't tell this story for yearsbecause I wanted to be like oh I met some girl and I told her I would walk to the ends ofthe air of everything I wanted my real lifetime moment but uh I watched this I was by myself
37:27watching this lifetime movie called The Truth About Jane and this girl's in high schoolrealizes she's gay her mom played by stalker Channing uh was very against it at first she's likeboo and then by the end of the movie she's like yay and it was like this beautiful like family momentand i legitimately said out loud for the first time i was like oh my god um gay and then i just satthere in shock that this was the journey to that realization and i knew foreverwas a part of your she was your moment rizzo what about family was was fully acceptedYeah. I didn't tell them for probably about another eight months or so because I was like, I'm in L.A. Who will know? And so I think I told my, I told my mom first at the Chinese restaurant I'd talk about. And she was more just, she was more just like, I don't want your life to be harder than it's already could be. You know, it was more of just like, I don't want to see my kid go through anything. I don't want people to hate you now just because of this.So it took, it was more of her shifting her dream for me.
38:44My dad immediately was like, you're my daughter.I love you.You're my daughter.I love you.Because he didn't know what to say her.I love you.You're my daughter.And my mom was, she's like, Mike, she knows she's your daughter.
38:58She is telling you she's gay.That's very true.Very true.Your dad was just on repeat.I love you.You're my daughter.He didn't know what else to say.I tell you, you're my daughter, I love.
39:11And you're like, oh, that's so beautiful.That's him accepting me in such a ridiculous way, you know.And then the boys were like, yeah, we know.Oh, so I told them, yeah, they said that we know.And we were outside at my mom's house.And Price went, you're not going to believe what's behind you right now.Do you remember this?I do remember.
39:32He said, he goes, look up, I turn around, and there was a giant rainbow right over my head.Yeah, I'm like, how appropriate, you know.Wow.And then our brother Jay, that Christmas, brought me a book,something about beavers.Yeah.So I was like, I think that, I think they've accepted me.That's fucking great.
39:56I wish I could remember the name of that book, Mr. Beaver or something, yeah.Something about beavers.I was like, all right, here come the gay jokes.Yep, here they go.But I'd rather have that, obviously.Yeah.Them not accept me.Cosbox, Oliver.
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44:35I'm a huge fisherman.Oh, really?I know my passion.Yeah.So my brother and I have two fishing companies.We own, first one is our digital media company called point clickfish.com.And it's freshwater and saltwater fishing news.Oh, wow.
44:48We go around about 30 events, live stream, big bill fish events and all that.And then we own what's called the Southern Kingfish Association, which is big kingfish, saltwater fish.It's about 3,000 plus members that my brother and I, we purchased it last.year and so that's what we do they're bringing you know with their media company they'remaking fishing accessible to a lot of people like live streaming it and so people that lovefishing but can't be there tune in and listen to it so they've been busy building theirbusinesses i've been busy you know doing doing the stand-up acting thing uh well they own thattogether we've done that yeah yeah we've been 20 years he's in the coast how is it working
45:29together it's it's right brothers uh i'm glad i don't i'm glad i'm not in the business yeah it'si mean there's times that there's you know we have brother moments but we get over it prettywell would you say would be your biggest just overall disagreement in running in running a businessyou and your brother well they're very different yeah jays like jay was in the coast guardfor years so he knows so much about fishing and prizes and learn a lot about it you're thethe guy, the business guy.So they come from very...Jay's the creative.
46:03I handle all of the business stuff.So Jay's like, let's get a 42 birdrumfucking put four, you know,cummins on there.And you're like, dude, how much is this cost?Right.That's where I come into.Let's get all the Shimano real.
46:19That's where I come into play.But it's been great.I love working with my brother.It gives us an opportunity to work together.And they're nice guys.People like working with them.So I'm proud.of them doing their thing and I want them to succeed and you know I'm so we're all close but
46:35it's like they're on North Carolina I'm in California they they're married they have kids I havemy fiancee we our kids are our dogs so we just have different lives in that way how many kidsdo you have I have one I have a 10 year old boy yes and he's our only one and so he's spoiledrotten and so you know our fish yeah he loves to fish and my Jay's got two boys of his own as wellAnd they're all closeAnd they all do stuffSo many boysI know
47:04My mom was likeDying for someone to have a girlShe wants it so badDo you want kidsWe're on the fenceWe don't knowBecause Jacks is aShe's a kindergarten teacher
47:14For 12 yearsOh shitSo you've had your sheriffChilthYeahShe'd be the bestShe's sitting right behind me by the bestI would be the one
47:23That would be likeThe dad kind of likeYou knowDo what your mom saysBut here's a cookieyou know like that had you never thought about a romantic connection until the lifetime thingor had you had any experiences no experience i came out what about with men uh not i didn'treally i didn't really date guys either i would have like a date here and there but we immediately
47:49went into like high-fiving each other right it was there was never any like chemistry in thatway but i get along really well with men having two brothers thatWe'd have so much to talk about, but then it would kind of end.You know, you have to have those pheromoles, whatever you call it, and we didn't have that.So I just didn't date.I think I channeled everything into just kind of being an overachiever.I was like in every sport, I played tennis in college, was the student body president.That's how I, like, channeled that, you know, lack.
48:28of dating, I channel it into that.Because you kind of, as a gay person who doesn't know you're gay, you're sort of alwaysbeing rejected in a weird way.They're not saying no to you per se, but you're never like the object of someone's affectionwhen you're young and you don't, you know, you're not dating.So you have to have something where you get a pat on the back or get, you know what I mean?Yeah.So, yeah, I just didn't, I just didn't really.
48:58have the dating experiences so once i came out i was 25 and i was having to make all the mistakesin my late 20s that you get to make when you're you know 17 yeah so i was uh not a catch for a verylong time because i was very awkward and you know just didn't jacks met me at the right time atthat point i was real swab right right so when you came to l.A did you immediately start doingcomedy? I started, I didn't have, I came to L.A. to work and I didn't really have friends for a whilebecause I found it to be a very difficult place to meet people. In North Carolina, you like makefriends everywhere in the gas station. You'll be like, oh, hey, what's up? And somehow you'relike hanging out a week later. Here I just couldn't meet people. So I decided, because I love
49:53Saturday Night Live growing up, I would take classes at the groundlings.um as like a hobby and uh as a way to make friends and my teachers just kept going oh you got ayou got to keep doing this and it quickly became a passion oh that's cool i audition for thegroundlings did not go well yeah really oh my god my friends and i did it you know like let'sgo audition for the ground and i misinterpreted something and i guess it just you knowwe were supposed to go up on stage and you turn your back to the stage to all the classand then they call something out like you're a dentist or you're you know a sleazy doc whatever yeahand so I'm standing then you turn around you just fucking go right and so they go they go all right
50:40you're the king of cheese and I took it literal so I I I turned this wasn't a choice this isreally what I thought so I turn around and I'm like hey he wants the mozzarella I've got cheddarAnd I start trying to hawk cheese.I love that, though.I thought it was a good choice, even though it wasn't a choice.I actually misinterpreted what they said.And people were standing there looking and be like,what the fuck is he doing?
51:08And I was like, I've got some pro wallone.I was like an Italian cheese hawker.You need to be the king of cheese.I think the king, I think that's a great.I think your teacher should have known better.And I remember no one was really laughing.And I was like, oh, shit.And I didn't even realize that I had fucked up the interpretation of it until I sat down with my friends.
51:31And they're like, what are you doing, dude?They meant like a cheesy guy.And I'm like, oh, no.Oh, God.I went literal.I was like selling Monterey Jack on that day.Nowadays, though, that there would be someone who appreciate that.Like, they were very rigid back in the day where it's like, you know, you have to do it this way.
51:50And they've really, you know, expanded into lots of.different types you know i've been thinking about uh going and doing like a ucb or ground yeah it's justfun it's just so fun i did a show the other night because sometimes they'll have like you knowalums come do improv yeah and and uh you know it's it's one of those things where you're really justdoing it like it's like going to the playground as an adult yeah because some people likewhy do you do you know improv you're like it's just silly and it makes you get nervous stilla little sometimes only because improv like once you're once you have that you'renot been doing it for a while you get out of practice and you're like oh my god i forgot how to like
52:29deliver information to these scenes but it's helped me a lot and stand up because uh especially wheni was coming up in the clubs and i was building my set uh you have you have to fill time rightso i would be like hey we're who has a cool job and let's see where we go in it and through myimprov i would go on these like 20 minute runs of making all this stuffup just based on what jobs people were telling me so it was fun it made it you know like the showdifferent every every night did you have comedians who you like really looked up to as a kid orgrowing up or coming up we probably a lot of the s&l people like uh i i heard adam sandler i lovedyeah i like the silly people chris farley uh then then the next round was like will feral
53:19sure molly shannon um i like anyone who didn't take themselves seriously well you you youchannel some Farley's physical comedy and there's some back and forth stuff that you're doing.Yeah, I do a lot of facial expression. Yeah. It's it's yeah. So I think I was by watching them sort of like was taking on what I thought was funny in them I would sort of do. And then I was all I'm also a really big Carol Burnett fan. My grandmother used to watch her show so she would play the reruns. Yeah. So. So.And she and her show was like herMonologue. That's essentially stand-up.Then she would do all those sketches.And at the end, the Q&A, it's improv.And I feel like my career's done.
54:07I do all of those things.And I think it really stemmed from watching her.You did this really funny thing about being on the swim team.It's all true.Yeah, well, someone...Not elaborated at all.There's a little, I didn't climb up on a block.You jumped off from the, from the, from the, this hole is shallow.
54:33He's like, fuck it, I can, I can, I can, wait, I can stand up.Because someone wrote me being like, that's impossible.You couldn't dive into a pool and stand up.I'm like, okay.I know.What do you want to measure the pool?So I, we dove off of the side and not the blocks.but no I legit like tiptoed you know running tiptoed because I wasn't it wasn't like I was the water I still was like barely above the water but I was running through the pool and I mean I was the worst swimmer I was the worst I would do like back like literally on the backstroke they would be done for like 10 minutes and I'm in the middle of the pool still running into the lanes and I at one point would stand up and look at
55:21look back and be like, oh boy, and then keep going. I had no business swimming, butmy brother swam, so. Not this one. You have a team for a minute. Oh, but I sucked. I washorrible. Were you an athlete, though? Yes, baseball, tennis and soccer grew up. And so that's, yeah,very active. And my brother was a competitive swimmer. And fortunately, I both played tennis.Oh, right. Yeah. We never got into when your parents divorced. Yeah. How old were you when that happened?I was 12, you had about to go to college.Yeah, we were talking about this last night in the car that we had a really interesting experience when my parents started to make the decision of getting divorce.I had just started my first day of college.
56:07And my dad, we had, the whole family went up.And again, I'm the oldest and I'm going to college for the first time.And it was one of those situations that, like, prices situated, he's ready to go.and, you know, our dad had made a decision that, you know what, I think this is the time for me to split.Well, they had separated and started sort of dating again in a weird, like.But did you know this?Yeah.Was your family aware of me?
56:34Yeah.We knew there was some issues going on.Yeah.We just, as kids, we just didn't know the extent.And they didn't have to talk.Like, hey, guys, we want to tell you something.Well, we knew that there was trouble.But then, like, my dad started, like, coming to pick my mom up for.
56:49dates and we're like well this is this is weird but then apparently i didn't know this price for melast night that my dad put the nail in the coffin yeah the day they moved him into the day one yeahfor college and so you can only imagine how my first semester or freshman year went in collegeit was a disaster uh you know and i felt it fortune was like 12 and my brother was 15 and my momtime for the worst to happen. And my mom had just kind of, that just, you know, ruined her pretty much.And so as the oldest, I was getting calls for my mom on a daily basis. Oh, can you believe you'redad? And this and that. And so, but I think that's what kind of built, especially, you know,fortune with their comedy up as well. I mean, we had to, our family's lighthearted. We laugh a lot
57:39and all that. So it was a serious situation. And to this day, now, I know this sounds very dark,how we're talking right now but i mean my parents are good friends now and everything's greatright now we make light of everything any tragedy our family had we would always be laughingabout it we were making jokes about it so we always found the light in whatever hard timethere was well there's humor and everything yeah and price was you know always just like a goodguy that like really was trying to like take care of everybody and like he would have uh i don't knowyou remember this, you would have, you asked girls that you were friends with to write me letters.Yes.
58:21It would write me letters, be like, I know you're like, it's hard at home that your parents aredivorced that, you know, we just wanted to reach out to, like, reach out to you and like,make sure you're okay. And I'm like, what, like, 18 year old guy is doing that, you know?That's amazing thing on the planet.Yeah. So he was always like looking out for me.Good for you. How did it, how did it affect your freshman year? I mean, obviously,I know it did, but in what way, were you just, you had to take on a responsibility that he sort of weren't ready for?Oh, absolutely. I mean, I had in my mind prepared for college, like, you were ready to go.
58:56Freshman, partying, girl. I mean, I was excited. And I went to a, I started off at a small school in North Carolina in the mountains. And so, so everybody was close and everybody knew each other and stuff. But it was one of those situations. I felt so bad, I'd go home on the weekends to make sure.that they were okay.So sometimes if I was going out with the girl,I would take the girl with me.So we're back to the situation.Hey.We're sissies right in the middle.Absolutely.
59:28I'm like, I'm sad.This still happens.Who's going to feed me?You go home to visit.Oh, my God.You just sit right in between.It sounds like you don't have much resentment,meaning like this is just what it is.
59:39This is just what I have to do.Was there a part of you like,motherfucker like I just want to be,I'm missing out on my,absolutely. Oh, I kind of joke with my wife that, I mean, she went to University of Michigan,you know, tailgating football parties. She had the ultimate college experience. And I'm thinking tomyself, well, actually, I didn't make it, I got through my freshman year at this school. And I didn'tmake it past my freshman year because I felt like so responsible that I needed to go home. So I
01:00:09actually transferred back to a community college where we live.in the area just so I could be with my family.And then I ended up going to a school about 30 minutes from our house.So essentially I could keep a close eye on what was going on because my mom was goingthrough a lot.My dad was doing his thing.Our grandmother had started getting sick.So I felt like, you know what, this is kind of my responsibility.
01:00:35And so I kind of joke with people.I love my college, but it wasn't much of a college experience for me and stuff.when we went to when my wife and I were going on 20 years this year of marriage and so yeah and soshe took me up to a Michigan football game and I swear it's just like I had chill bumps I went to thatstadium you teared up you teared up I get it I'm a huge sports guy yeah I get it like yeahyeah and I was just like it was like all this emotion just kind of just came over me and I'm likeoh my gosh like this is incredible this is what I missedand stuff but it's okay i mean i met my wife and you know now we have our son and everything's
01:01:18great and the same thing with you know i talk you know about the parent situation you know myparents have a great relationship and all that now and so and they had to get there it took a minuteyeah it took a minute to get there and where were you at fortune when you were 12 years old andall of a sudden brothers away at college yeah and now you you know i think well that's probablyone of the abandonment issues of just like everybody kind of went offyou know and like Jay got his license that year so he was out of there my and both my parents you know they had to really kind of grow up themselves they I think the split like my it took my dad one way and it took my mom another way and and everybody was trying to fix themselves or like look out for themselves and I was like you guys I'm still here yeah I got a top hat on I lovewho wants to see a showBut that's why I think
01:02:18My grandmother and I were so closeShe lived just down the streetAnd really stepped inWhile my parents were kind of finding themselvesAnd they didYou know, they did get to the pointWhere they came back aroundAnd really, you know, made family their priority
01:02:33Because I think it just was somethingThat they, I don't think my mom thoughtShe'd get divorcedI don't think, you knowAnd my dadyou know just his emotional capacity was still growing uh having had the you're my daughteryeah and so by the time uh i hit college they both were you know uh had come back i mean they didn'tgo away but you know what i mean like just being present yeah it's settled are are they
01:03:03super close now or are they just they're good friends yeah they're good they're i mean they hemy dad was remarried and so they don't it's not like they talk everyweek or anything like that butthey knowthat at the end of the day they're familythey've known each other since they were 17he doesn't have any familyI mean well he has brothers but
01:03:23it's like he came up in a verydifficult family situationand her all of herfamily brothersparents they're all dead so they kind oflike know each other in a way that no one elseknows and I think theyfinally come to a place where they're like
01:03:39oh like Ilike you're my lastlifeline to that story and your mom never remarried oh let's talk about that she did she didit was very brief okay she had a companion for a while and uh they just were never meant to bemarried uh they got married and i think once she moved in he was like whoa no thank youYeah, yeah.So they, it lasted three months, right?Three months.
01:04:18Oh, man.They just are very different people.Yeah, that's being polite.Yeah.That was being very polite.But my mom made sure to have a big, huge second, this wedding.We begged her, like, please don't do this.Like, because we were kind of like new from day one.
01:04:34This was not a good pairing.Yeah.What did she see in this guy?I mean, why do you think?Companionship.Okay.Yeah.Just someone to speak to.
01:04:42He had a hearing aid.She likes some old.She likes the older gentleman.He likes her little ginger.That's a prerequisite.You have a hearing aid?Hello, ginger.I love how your scarf matches your shoes.
01:04:56He told my wife that he liked her pocketbook.And this is the first time that we met.And I was like, why did he just say?He likes my wife's pocketbook.Then he said, your shoes are divine.And I'm like, who uses the word divine?you know as far as you know that's all we'll say aboutI can make a guess
01:05:18yeah but he uh rightthey had a huge second wedding a wedding and likemy mom got like a circus tentand put it inside the fellowship hall of our churchand I'm like oh tent tents go insideokay and she's like I'm almostI'm will serve hot dogs and I'm will havenachos with jalapinos
01:05:40I think she might have like 300 people to this weddingand they were divorced three months later.That is so amazing.Wow.So we have a very...Sounds like a character.Oh, she is a character.So when I talk about her a lot in stand-up and people,
01:06:02really, no way she's like that.And I'll put her on our podcast.They go, just listen to this.Really?And they're not...But now they love her.They're just like, what's Ginger have to say about this?I feel like your impression is pretty good, right?
01:06:15It's pretty, don't you think it's pretty dead?I can hear.Yeah.So, within a couple weeks, we are going to be in the Rocky Mountains.I don't reveal where I go, but yes.The Rocky Mountains are, it's a big mountain range, but we will be there.And you know what I'm going to do?The minute I pull up to the ranch in Colorado, I'm going to crack open a Coors Light, an ice cold
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01:07:22bike ride, which I'm heavily into mountain biking, okay, and you are sweating your ass off and youpull up to your truck and you're with your boys and you load your bikes up and now you're sittingin the parking lot, right? What kind of a beer do you want to crack open right then and there?You want a Coors Light.You don't want some sort of a heavy, you know, sort of, eh, stouty beer.It's part of the moment.Coors Light is speaking to my psychology when I'm out and about and I'm active,and I want that freezing cold beer to just quench my dying thirst.
01:07:57It's brewed.It's a three-step process, cold loggered, cold filtered, cold package.So it's actually made to chill.And so the mountains on the Coors Light,cold activated bottles so they turn blue and you know that it's chilled exactly the way they'resupposed to be chilled. You can have course light delivered actually by going to get dot coreslightdot com and finding local delivery options near you. Celebrate responsibly. Coorsbruncompany golden colorado. You moved to Spain. I did. Yeah. Like a life experience. Yeah. I graduated
01:08:36high college and i i don't know i just like made this decision i was going to move tospain i had studied in mexico a couple summers in college and was really fascinated with thelanguage and and it just sort of made this i had this desire to like see the world but wenever had money i'd never had the means to uh really explore the world and i was just likei'm going to live in spain for a year and i graduated with like fifty dollars in mybank account and basically worked like eight jobs for the next like four months bought a one wayticket to Spain and live there for almost a year where did you go in sevia oh nice it was I loved itit was one of the hardest things I've ever done because I mean you're talking about someone who
01:09:24grew up in a town of 5,000 people my college was 800 people not living in Spain and this wasbefore uh Wi-Fi you had to go to the like internet cafe andAnd, you know, I was so disconnected from everyone.There was no cell phones.Yeah, you were just like, you know.Yeah, for me, I was this country bumpkin and just be like,Ola, come out of stas.Like, it was a real, I was a real fish out of water.
01:09:55I took my guitar.I'm like, I'm going to become an amazing guitar player.I don't think I played once.Like Spanish.Yeah.Exactly.And it was just me, like, struggling with all my luggage.Why did I bring this guitar?
01:10:12Oh, my God.Everyone was trying to rob me?Did you hit your stride, though?I mean, was there a point where you're like, okay, I'm settled?I get it now.I got to a point where I could really communicate with people and understand, but I was never great.Did you make friends?I mean...
01:10:25Yeah, I made friends.I went to a language school where I learned Spanish.And there was a lot of European people that went there, and I would make friends with them.And I traveled all over Western Europe by train.So they'd be like, you'd meet so, it's so different there.You'd meet somebody who was like, you saw him for like four days.They'd be like, oh, when you come through Switzerland, can stay with me.You're like, okay, sure, I would stay with strangers all the time.
01:10:50People I never knew, but they would just open their houses.And so it was a way to like, I guess I just wanted to prove to myself that you didn't need money to see the world.and to experience these things like you can make that happen how do you feel about that now i'm soglad i did it because i'm too big of a puss now to do something like that i'd be like oh i havei have responsibilities and i got to like work and it's it was a time of your life where you justgive caution to the win did you visit i did not have the opportunity i was working unfortunatelyi had an opportunity to go out to visit one time and it's just schedule and just so you spent a year notother my mom and our brother jay came for like three weeks uh over christmas because i never went
01:11:40back home i didn't have the money to fly back and forth and uh they should i beg i said i beg ofyou guys this is a tiny everything's tiny we're not tiny we're big people please just pack likesmall bag the cars are small the seats are small closets are small i beg of you right i picked thoseI picked them up in Madrid.Three giant suitcasesapiece.I'm like,I had not seen them
01:12:08in like six months.I'm like,I hate you.I hate you.So we like barely fitin this taxito go to the hotel.I had to like,
01:12:18I knew someone in Madridwho let us keep likethree of their bagsin their houseuntil we finished our three week journey.My brother brought a sleeping bag.I mean,you think Europeans don't have beds?
01:12:31Did you really need a sleeping day?Where were you planning on sleeping?Yeah.Oh, how fun.Did you guys, was there a time when you were not speaking, meaning not in any bad way, but just not connected, just circumstantially, and then found your way back to each other where your relationship maybe grew?Well, when Fortune moved out to L.A., I mean, as she said, we live completely.completely different lives. I mean, I went, you know, I met my wife and we got married. And sothere's, you know, now I'm a married man. And so, um, you know, she came out here,
01:13:11East Coast, West Coast. And we talk, we text. We just don't. It's two different lifestylesand stuff. But I always know what she's up to. I always know to what she's doing. And obviouslywe're so, so proud of her. Yeah. What was the last time you saw each other before you came outhere? Christmas. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I try to go.I try to go home like three times a year.Yeah, but you hadn't been out here in a while.It's been a long time.But, you know, it's hard, I think, once you have kids to really just like, you know, you can't really make those.
01:13:41We're like, oh, let's go to Paris this weekend.You know, it's just a different lifestyle.Do you miss home or do you like L.A.?I really love L.A.It's my jam.I'm a very chill.I'm a chill person.And I like sunshine.
01:13:55And L.A. is a very chill vibe.I can wear jeans everywhere.And it's great.We go visit.at home, you know,North Carolina several times a year.So I get that, like,I get to see family and just sort of, you know,
01:14:09not go a thousand miles a minute and just slow down for a second.But then I'm always, like, ready to get back.It's interesting, though, because we're talking about,you guys are siblings who see each other here and again, right?Right.Because, I mean, for the most part, the siblings that we've had on are in each other's lives.All the time.Right.
01:14:29But there's something.it's okay you know what i mean like when you guys are to get together again i mean it's yeah wejust pick right back up i think maybe that's if i think maybe sisters the sisters that i knowseem to talk a lot more they're like a little bit more like day to day or it's almost likewith dudes you can just kind of be like oh i'll talk you in a month and it'll be like uh who caresyou know it's true although we talk like almost every day but we have but we do but i livei live five minutes from you're like you're part of each other's life yeah yeah yeah it is it isIt is weird when I stop and think about it.
01:15:02I'm like, oh, my God, I have lived in L.A. for 17 years.I probably see my family 10 days out of every year, you know, like when you really put them all together.It's kind of crazy.It's crazy.Yeah.It is kind of crazy to see, I mean, so we're, you know, small town, southern town.Then you see L.A., Hollywood.You see movies, TV show.
01:15:26And so it's just bizarre.Like when she did her Netflix special, it was in Charlotte.and to see the cameras and the people.And for us, it's like, wow, like, man, she has arrived.I mean, she has arrived.So that was kind of a cool experience.And, you know, everybody back home was rooting for her.I mean, everybody follows her and it's just a big fan in general.
01:15:47But even as a family member, you just love hearing about the success that she's having, which is great.And that's part of why I wanted to do it in Charlotte's because I don't really get to share.They've seen my stand-up shows when I come to town, but I've never really gotten to share.my life with them in that way and you know I'm like when I'm filming stuff here I can be likeoh I was film this thing and they're like oh that's great but like I wanted to show them likethis is this is a big part of my life this what I traveled to 45 cities just last year this iswhat you're working so hard for I want you to see I want you to see how it's done and made and so it wasa big thing for me to do it at home really to share with my family was it emotional for
01:16:28everybody. Yeah, it kind of was because I remember when she was doing it for free at the localrestaurant in Belmont. And it's like, she was just happy to get an audience. And to hear thejokes that she started with to where she is now. And the friends are like, oh, my gosh. Like,she is like, like, she's for real. And it's like, we saw her when she started in Belmont and nowshe's on Netflix. And so it's just kind of like, wow, she's come full circle.and stuff and just like man that's my sister doing that and so you know and i think back too peoplelike oh that looks you know it must be so nice just up there telling jokes and all that you realizeman you try getting up there with the microphone with you know thousands of people watching you
01:17:12and tell jokes and make people laugh yeah you know and so i mean we're very you know it's awesometo see that you know what she does and we're very proud of do you what was your first time on stagedo you remember like your first set where you're like holy shit i'm onstage actually doing this in front of people.I did a six weeks stand-up class.I had already been doing improv and sketch, but I did a six-week stand-up class,and at the end of it, you do a set at the comedy store.I think I'm talking about, like, I hate strawberries.
01:17:44It was very, I wasn't digging deep.How did it go over?It was fine and that it was like the people that came knew they were seeing a class,so they were more forgiving.Do you have any bombs where you're like, oh, shit.Oh, yeah.Like this was a gnarly.I'm witness, one of them in Virginia.
01:18:00I had done last comic standing.I got hired to do this charity event.And the guy that was in charge of got fired like three weeks before.And whoever picked it up was like, wait, what is it going on?And it was at this like biker bar in Virginia Beach.And they told me it would be like a nice sit down dinner.And it was like a Chinese buffet with like six options.All the people there were like, who is this person?
01:18:26The stage was a crate.And the light was, you know, on those clamp lights, the construction.I was like, oh, my God, my opener was supposed to do 20 minutes.He lasted two minutes and went, good night.And I was like, dude.So I just ate it for the next 40 minutes.Oh, really?And at the end, I go, come on, mom, let's go, let's go, let's go.
01:18:49So it's just not like, it was just quiet.Yeah, just quiet.People just kind of going, why are we here?You know, I go, I don't know why we're here.I got my chick and ran out of there.It takes such a tough skin to be a stand-up.I have so much, so much admiration for you guys.We're doing the Lord's work, guys.
01:19:09Yeah, I agree.Hallelujah.It is a great, stand-up is the one place where you can't really fake it, you know.If you're not, like, there's a lot of people who can go on YouTube and be like,I got a YouTube series, but you can't, to get on stage and to like really,make people listen for an hourit weeds people out pretty quickyou know so let's do our speed ramp
01:19:34okay so one word to describe each otherkindfunnyheyone word to describe the other at 12feistyfunny stillyeah yeah
01:19:51something your parents don't know that your siblings didoh he found somethingthing. Well, no, I was going to say, your party.Yeah. We hired a stripper. A male stripper.Yes. I don't know if my mom ever knew we hired a male stripper.It was for my friend's 18th birthday party. And I said, I was just going to have some girls over.And it was like 50 girls, y'all take your pants off.Yes. And I have to be leaving the driveway when the stripper arrived. I'm like, who are you?
01:20:22Oh, I'm the performer. Excuse me? He was in a suit. He was like, I'm a cop. Yeah.He was in a suit.Yeah.And the neighbor, a neighbor came over because he saw the cars.And they go, are you the stripper?And he's like, what?It was a very wild night.Yes.
01:20:39I don't think you might have, you had a girl in your room.That was a big no-no back then.You're crazy.He's like sweating now.Oh, don't tell me about it.Who calls the other more?uh we're both pretty bad about that i'd probably text you more we're more textors than callers yeahwe're not as chatty as our other brother and our mom they talk like all the all the time
01:21:10yeah but we're big text we're like what's up yeah okay cool bye right yeah do you spend Christmastogether we do like every other holiday right so that the family the the the wives we spendwith yeah right yeah um who's wittierOh, for sure.Me?Yeah.Oh, for sure.For sure.
01:21:31Who could survive longer on an island?Deserted island.Probably prize.I'm an Eagle Scout.Oh, yeah.And I'm a terrible, I'm a terrible lesbian.Yeah, of course.Yeah.
01:21:43People come up to me in Home Depot asking where things are.I'm like, ugh, I don't know.What's one thing that your sibling is bad at?Calling?No, I'm not going to say for me.It's calling.you're bad at calling her i'm bad at calling yes uh you're not a big hugger you're bad at hugsuh i'm gonna hug you today i'm gonna leave and i'm hugging yeah they said he's
01:22:05my mom said he's like that since we were kids he was like uhreally what about with your wife are you guys affectionate yes yes yes yes we are yes we arebut like we always do like bro side hugs right what's up are you an affectionate girl i am yeahYour cuddles all over the place, yeah.For sure.Who's the better cook?Neither of us cook.Did you cook?
01:22:32Not really.We didn't, neither one of us got that.Did your family cook?Our grandmother did.But our parents.Southern cooking.Yeah, she was all that from scratch stuff, cakes from scratch, chicken and dumplings.Oh, yeah.
01:22:46I love chicken and dumplings.Mom, grandma made chicken and dumplings.She made a great chicken and dough.You know what?I'm going to make a chicken and dumplings.dumplingchicken and dumpsdumplings are not
01:22:54easyThey're notI will be judgingyouOn your dumpsMy dumpsMy dumpsYou make good dumps
01:23:01Light sluffyGet ready for my dumpLight sluffy dumpWait till you tasteMy fluffy dumpTaze my fluffy dumpMy dumpsRise to the top
01:23:13OkayWho's more athleticThat's pretty evenWe're bothVery athleticYeahWho's moreCompetitive.
01:23:23Price and I were the one, or Jay was, like, really great at swimming, like, unbelievable.But we could do, like, any sport well, except swimming.Yeah, of course.Yeah.Who's more competitive?Probably.I'd probably say me, yeah.I mean, because, you know, I grew up playing a lot of sports, and it was, we had good teams.
01:23:43And so a lot of, you know, winning championship type deal.So it was, I had that kind of embedded in.Right.Win, win, win, win.Yeah, yeah.We'd play mixed doubles together in tournaments back in the day, which was a big mistake.Against each other.No, with each other.
01:23:55He'd jump in front of me all the time.I was like, oh, you little mother.I got to say so, too.I guess I don't have the killer instinctbecause we were playing this familyand said, oh, we just came from Yugoslaviawhere they were bombing our village.And I'm like, oh, my gosh.
01:24:13And they were sitting there and we're like,don't listen to them.Don't listen to them.They're trying to get in your head.You know, we've got to smash them,price.who got to smash them and they're like oh yeah and i'm like oh i feel so bad for me and tennisis war yeah it was like those things that's like come on but he was like jumping in front of me
01:24:34because i was a lot younger so he wasn't he didn't have the confidence that i would carry my partof the mad are you guys rule followers in general i'm very much rule follow yeah i am too yeah i'm prettyguilty of that who keeps the best secret not him oh really you're bad you're badbad, huh?This guy's the town crier.He tells everybody, everybody, you tell him something, everybody's going to know about it.Okay, wait. So what it, why? Why? What is that, you think?No, I just, you know, if it's like with my family and we're having a discussion about something,
01:25:07it's kind of like, well, I need to have all the facts out there so everybody knows.So he tells everybody what you just texted.Yes. Yes. And I'm like, dude, he's throwing me out of the bus so many times.It's just a family. It's a family. Yeah. I'm like, why'd you tell of them? I said that.But what if someone says don't say anything?I try my best not to say it.I try my best.He's a little chatty, Kathy.
01:25:33Do you stir the pot?Do you like to stir the pot?Yes.If we're having an issue with siblings sometimes,like there's a disagreement about something,then maybe I'll try to, you know, get people together.He has sent texts that I've sent to our other,about our other brother,
01:25:51to our other brother.And then I'll be texting with himand get a text from my other brother.What did you say?I'm like,praise!And he'll be like,I didn't mean to,
01:26:01I copied it and I didn't know all of it was sending.Have you guys ever had like a sit and something's like a blowout crazy fight?Like where it's like,oh shit,wow.Back in the day we've had those were common.As adults?They're a few and far between,
01:26:16but they happen.Yeah.We get it all out and then the hope is you move on.Right. It never gets personal to where you can't come back from it.Yeah, and we're pretty good about Forgiven and...We always love to know what your first celebrity crush was.Mine probably was Sandra Bullock in the movie while you were sleeping.I was like, oh, I want to be in a coma and have Sandra Bullock coming to check on me.
01:26:43That's amazing.That's a good one.I'm going to be embarrassed because she's in here, but I watch a lot of Kate.Hudson movies.Oh, okay.They're first.Yeah.Yes.
01:26:58Yes.So when I was told about this, I'm like, really?I was like, I'm a big fan of Kate Hudson.That's awesome.Yeah.So fun.Exciting that.That's so great.
01:27:12And I'm being honest.Hi.This is the, got me sister, cool point.So thank you.Oh, that right.Um, Ollie, do you want to do our last question?Um, yeah, we, we, um, we, um, we ask this to everybody.If you could take one thing from your sibling to adopt as your own, to take from them
01:27:33that you wish that you could have yourself, what would it be?And then if you could extract something from your sibling to, some to take away somethingthat might be a stressor in their life or, or, or something that might be, you know, hinderingthem in any sort of way.I would say with Price I would probably he has no ego he's just like there's nothing about like he doesn't hold on to grudges he doesn't think that he's better than anybody he just has this like he's just kind and a good guy and he's never like trying to be the center of attention and he's just kind of content with life and I like that he's not that person that thinks it's never enough you know and I like that about him.what I wouldwe've never like we've never had like a real conversation like yeah we don't reallydig too deep with each other but that's a good one though yeah yeah and then I would
01:28:32alleviate for you I would I would want to instill even like more confidence in you becauseI think that you're really talented and good at what you do and you don't get much credit forit because you're not seeking that so I would in a weird way I'm talking about how you have no egoand I'm like I want to instill a little bit in you so that you kind of claim how great you areat these things that's nice that is for that's cool like joining hands going on wow just wait now you gotnow you have some pressure I tell you what well you know one thing that I admire with fortune is herwork ethic and her focus. And that is something, man, that I think is amazing that a lot of peopledon't have. And, you know, you see, you know, her story is she moved to L.A. with $25 in her bank
01:29:31account. And I mean, how many people do you know that would have that kind of courage to do somethinglike that? And I've always admired that. Do you have that kind of work ethic? Oh, no. I wouldn'ttake the chance like, well, I don't have the balls that she has, put it that way. And I don'tmind saying that. And so. I'm the same way. I don't have her balls. Yeah. Our balls are massive.Big balls. Well, that's what I'm talking about. And I've always admired, you know, her work ethic.And what she's doing. I mean, it just gets bigger and bigger and bigger. And it's great to see,you know. And what would you alleviate from her? You know, I do realize as, you know, someone whoas gay and lesbian, uh, it is a hurtful when you see other people that, you know, don't want to
01:30:19give them equal opportunity and don't want to, you know, look at them as, you know, human beings.Like, you know, well, you're gay. You're the devil or you're a sinner and all that. That'ssomething that, you know, you don't want them to have that pain to think, well, why am I not?You know, I'm just, you know, I'm a human being as well. And, uh, you know, and I'm sure that hurts,you know, sometimes, especially for a gay and lesbian person in general.But, you know, I've seen her experience that as well.So, you know, take that hurt away, in a sense.And so, yeah.
01:30:52Wow, that's so awesome.That's so nice.This is the only time he and I will ever share it.That's right.We have to do another round of this on time.This is your guy's homework for your next Thanksgiving is that you have to go around the table and you have to do this with your family.It's gnarly.Yeah.
01:31:13And your family doesn't open up like the...It's scary as shit, but sometimes, you know, weird things come out of there.Everyone's crying all of a sudden.And then there's always one person that does something where you're like, that was a little weird.That was weird.That was nice.All right.Well, thank you guys.
01:31:33Thank you.This was awesome.This was so wonderful.Thank you.Thank you, guys.Sibling Revelry is executive produced by Kate Hudson, Oliver Hudson, and Sim Sarna.Supervising producer is Alison Bresnick.Editor is Josh Windish.
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