Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - From Clueless to Christmas with Alicia Silverstone

Episode Date: August 25, 2025

‘As If’ you needed another reason to watch Oliver’s upcoming holiday movie, here comes his co-star Alicia Silverstone! Oliver is joined by America’s ‘Clueless’ crush who talks about her 90s icon status, and why she decided to put Hollywood in the past, UNTIL NOW! From the teenage drama where she got her big break, to the character that changed everything, our beloved “Cher” is over-sharing and we can’t get enough!  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an IHeart podcast. September is a great time to travel, especially because it's my birthday in September, especially internationally. Because in the past, we've stayed in some pretty awesome Airbnbs in Europe. Did we've one in France, we've one in Greece,

we've actually won in Italy a couple of years ago. Anyway, it just made our trip feel extra special. So if you're heading out this month, consider hosting your home on Airbnb. With the co-host feature, you can hire someone local to help manage everything. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host.

I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story. Does anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians, artists, and activists to bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. The moment is a space for the conversations we've been having us, father and daughter, for years. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer

in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years.

Until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls, came forward with a story. America, y'all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And to binge the entire season, add free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson.

We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And would it's like to be siblings? We are a sibling rivalry. No, no. Sibling reverie. Don't do that with your mouth. That's good Yeah

Yeah, not much of an intro coming Because We're going to talk about This next guest Who's in the waiting room right now Her name is Alicia Silverstone And I had such a massive crush on her During Clueless

And I was lucky enough to work with her we did a movie called Merry Little Xmas I think that's the name of the bucket movie I always get it wrong at Christmas movie for Netflix really fun she's awesome and

we got to know each other very well we had so much fun she's such a good mom she's so many things that are good and she's so talented and she's producing and just killing it as usual um So I'm not going to do much of an intro here because she's enough of one.

Bring her in. Hello? Oh, there she is. Where are you right now? I'm in Colorado. My boys just left today. So now I get a little time with just Aaron to hang, but I think I'm too attached to my kids. Well, duh.

No, I know, but I don't know if it's unhealthy. It's probably not unhealthy, but I don't know. I just love them being around. Yeah, of course. You know? It's normal. I know. Well, you got to witness it really firsthand with Wilder and myself.

For those that don't know, we just did a movie together, and Wilder plays our son in the movie. So at least you got to see all of me, how I parent, what my relationship is like with my boy. Yeah. Yeah, it was fun. so how are you um you tired do you get some sleep we rested i'm going to do ADR for our movie right after this oh you are yeah and um I've been on a press tour so I'm I'm I'm coming back to life today but the weekend I was exhausted for this new movie yeah for for for well the pretty thing just came out, that film with Justin Kelly directing, and Carl Glessman is in it with me. And I love

that movie. And that's out right now. And then I, the show that came out yesterday is Irish Blood. Yeah. Oh, it's out? Yeah. Remember when I would be working on it? Yes. After set and stuff. So I, that's what, it came out yesterday on. So you've been doing press for that. Massive press, yeah. Are you happy with it? I am. I'm really good. Yeah.

Because you were producing it and starring. Yes. And is that something that you've done a lot of or is this relatively new? No, I did my, I produced excess baggage with Benisito and Christopher Walken. That was my first time. And then I produced this show for kids called Brace Face. We made 75 episodes of this animated show. And then I produced quite a few other things.

things along the way. But most recently, I produced our movie that we did in wherever we were, Toronto. And Irish Blood. And Irish Blood was the, you know, I came on in really, really early stages. So it was just an idea when they had to do it. And so it gave, by producing, it gave me the opportunity to be involved with every creative hire and all, you know, I worked on all the scripts I worked on the edit I worked on all all aspects and that I think was really rewarding in this yeah all right let's go back a little bit okay where did you where did you grow up I grew up in San Francisco mm-hmm like Bay Area yeah yeah Bay Area and live there until you moved to L.A was that your home base I lived in the Bay Area we lived in San

First, I was born and we went to San Bruno, then San Carlos, then Hillsborough. And those are all in the Bay Area. And then we, so we had quite a few moves in that time. But then I moved to L.A. when I was 14. And then I went and lived on this woman's couch kind of thing for a while. And then my parents followed me later. And then I moved out and then lived behind the Chateaumermont for a while. Oh, you did?

Amazing. Wait a minute. So you left when you were 14 to go pursue acting in Los Angeles. Was that correct? Yeah. Before that, though, were you a drama kid? Were you acting? Is this what you wanted to do?

Were you out of the womb sort of singing and dancing, so to speak? Basically, when I was little, I did what I think all kids do, right? I mean, I don't all kids, but most kids are putting on shows for their parents, I think, and singing and whatnot. And my favorite thing to do with my friends was to dance. So we would put on these dancing shows, and they were so ridiculous, I'm sure. But someone named Pat Forrest saw me when I was like five and told my dad, like, she's going to be a star. And I'm sure that that gets said to every kid's parents and the thing.

But I just really loved theater. And so basically my dad saw me at school in a place. play and said, you know, it wasn't even a play. It was like, you know, open house doing a scene in the room. And he said, you're really good. I think at that point I was 12. So he put me in acting classes at 12. And I started doing these classes with Judy O'Neill. And she would come every month. And I'd spend a weekend with these older kids, you know, 17 year olds and 16 year olds. And it was just so exciting. And people didn't like their parents and people were emotional. And it was just juicy yeah and I think that's where I realized oh do you just feel like people this feels like

real and deep and thoughtful and gritty and it's not just like surface stuff at school you know yeah was your dad a performer he wanted to be when he was little and he um but he was a chef he had restaurants like cook like a cook you know and so he had like Monte sandwich shop and things like that. And he got into real estate instead. But I think he definitely, he plays Fagan and Oliver in the theater thing he can. Okay. Right. So his heart and soul is a performer, right? He feels like, yeah. And my mom too, I think. Oh, really? But neither of them did it. You know, like my mom could do every accent really. And she speaks like four languages. or she did.

And she was a flight attendant for Pan Am. Oh, wow. During, like, during that heyday. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. And she was... That's like celebrity status almost. I mean, I don't think they got that.

I think we think of them like that now. We've glorified it maybe a little bit. No, because I don't remember her feeling. Right. You know, but she would go and come back, you know, know a week later or whatever and um yeah but she i think when i think she had if she had trained she could have acted for sure you just didn't you know and so how do you go to l.A. when you're 14 like how does that work yeah i know well bear's 14 and that's crazy i know imagine bear right

now saying hey mom later babe like i'm going to new york and i'm going to go you know into the theater world by myself. Different times, though, for sure. Different times. And I also think because my dad had that desire in him and for, you know, for whatever reason, didn't pursue that. So I think because of that, he was very open to me going and pursuing this dream. Judy O'Neill was this sort of manager of these acting classes that would happen for a whole

weekend in a hotel once a month. And this was so exciting. I mean, it was just so imagine like going away for a weekend, staying in a hotel with all these older kids. It was just such trouble. I loved it. And at that time, I was pretty narcoleptic. I would just fall asleep probably trauma. You know, just like, right. I just checked out. Totally. I just need to check out for a I was going to check out. I'll be back. But at one point, and I sucked. I was not good at all. And there was a boy class. You weren't. I wasn't good at all. You knew you weren't. No, I knew. I would just get up and giggle. And I think I was good for my school, but not for our standards of getting work. And now I was amongst other people who were older than me and had been studying for a while. And they were great. And Jonah Blackman, was this kid who I knew about Jonah Blackman before I met Jonah Blackman because he was like a celebrity in our town because he had done a milk commercial. You know, and he danced with Orishnikov.

He was, and I was in love with him. And no matter how many times everybody told me he was gay, I was like, he's not gay. He told me he's not gay. Defended, defended, and I was in love with him. And by the time, we were in love with each other for a minute. And then, of course, he ended up being gay. And Jonah and I were, like, we had this moment where, you know, that song, it must have been love. Of course.

Must have been love, but it's over now. That was our song of the summer. I was just pining for him. Anyway, the point being, all I did is stare at him and giggle in class. Like, I wasn't taking it very seriously. But one day I got a scene with Amit Itlman, who I'm going to go see a play of his that he wrote next week. But he was, he and I did the scene together. And for some reason, I finally dropped in to whatever real truth.

I finally got it. And then everything started to click. And then they asked me, oh, we're having this summer thing where you can come live with us for a summer. And it's like the chosen kids from the class would go. summer. So I did. And this was my first introduction to LA. I think it was between my freshman and sophomore year. Wow. And I went and lived with Judy for the summer. And then I, you know, we did a showcase and at the showcase, after the showcase, and I knew I was good in my scenes then. I could feel that I knew what I was now. And after the showcase, she said, everyone needs to go mingle and

talk to these casting directors and these agents. I had no interest because I didn't, I didn't even know what that meant. Right. You know, I just liked acting and I liked the theater aspect of it. I didn't know that you could be in movies or TV. It just didn't even occur to me. Yeah. I didn't really know what I was doing there. And so I didn't go meet anyone. I stayed in the back and I was quite shy about the whole thing. And then the next day, she sort of went around and told everybody who they had meetings with based on the showcase. And I had a lot of meetings. And I found my agent through that and I started going out on a million things. But then I had to go back at the end of the summer for to go back to school. You did, right, because you got to finish school. I had to finish school. So I went to

sophomore year and that saw my first semester of sophomore year. I was literally flying back and forth to L.A. Were you booking jobs? Not yet. It was like I was getting really close. And I think it, I think that's when I started to book like the first job was a pizza commercial and a and a telephone company thing. And then I got the wonder years. But I think that I think that must have happened around that time the one the wonder years and then this show me and nick was a pilot i made and then um and then it wasn't until i don't know when oh i know then for the next off for the second part of sophomore years when my parents said you can't just like live there and keep going back and forth um will come will come set up shop there and so so i went to beverly

Hills High for my second semester of school. And that's when I got the crush was like right before I was supposed to go into my junior year. And I was so excited because I had just gotten into the dance program as an extra. Like Beverly Hills High has this dance program that's so hard to get into. I auditioned and I got to be like a, there's two people that got the role of like you're not actually in the company, but you're kind of it. You get to practice with the company. Yeah. And I got in. And I. also got into the drama club, but it was really hard to get into it. So I was so excited. And then, oh, well, I got the crush instead. Oh, my gosh.

September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place will stay in and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm character and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September,

why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos.

And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized?

I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith, but there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in. To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other, sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public.

Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paolo. as part of the MyCultura Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. From a very rural background myself, my dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin, so, like, it's not, like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke,

but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now.

Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a tape recorder statement. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike. This is in regards to the death of a Colleen slimmer. She started going off on me, and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee.

Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. The state has asked for an execution date for Krista. We let people languish in prison for decades, raising questions about who we consider fundamentally unrestorable. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike Listen to Unrestorable Season 2

Proof of Life on the IHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now we were getting a little bit older

and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present IVF disrupted the kind body story A podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care. Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup.

While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands. And then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted, the kind body story, starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So wait, Wonder Years?

Was that like one of your first real gigs? Well, me and Nick was my first thing, but that didn't get getting picked up. Okay, got it. But then it was one of years where we were actually on television. Yep. And was that a new art for you? Because you were so used to theater. There was no technical. I mean, theater is technical, of course, but getting in front of a camera, learning how to sort of find light, hitting a mark, all of that stuff. Or did that come naturally? I don't think I definitely didn't know how to find light. I didn't know how to hit marks. I don't think. I think you just learn on the job.

Yeah. And the Wonder Years, I kept auditioning for this one part that I didn't get the part that I was auditioning for. But it was down to me and this girl, Lisa Gerber. And we kept, we became friends because we just kept seeing each other at these auditions. It was just her and I. No one could decide between the two of us. I was a little bit older than her. And anyway, they ended up going with her.

And so they threw me this other episode with Fred Sack. savage, where he, you know, he's asking me on a date and I say yes. And then he has to go learn how to drive. Right. But yeah, that was my, I guess that was the first. And then Crush was the sort of jump off. Yeah. So what was the, what was that, the Crush again?

Who was in that with you? Crush is Carrie Elways. Right. And Jennifer Rubin. Is that kind of what propelled you, you think, into the next stage of your career that movie it was yeah i mean that was my first film and it came out and it was like kind of a little bit of a cult loved movie you know it had a it had its own weird you know following it it i ended up getting two MTV movie awards for it best actress or no best

newcomer and best villain and um and it and it Yeah, I mean, then tons of things happened. Yeah. So the crush and then getting into the clueless thing, did you have to audition for Clueless or did you offer Clueless? Well, but after The Crush, I did eight more movies or no, seven more, no, eight more movies before Clueless happened. And so I went off to Paris to do this movie with James Gondolfini and this French director,

and this was called Le Nouvement with Alan Corneau. He was so special. And that was interesting. And then I did like the babysitter and I tied away with Jeff Goldblum. The Aerosmith videos happens all sprinkled into this where, you know, Marty Kallner, who is the director of the Aerosmith videos, he saw the crush and asked me to do the Aerosmith videos. And apparently Amy Heckerling says she saw the Aerosmith videos and wanted me to be in Clueless. but I met with her and she tells a story of me sitting across from her and I had ordered whatever drink I had and there was a straw in it

and I never picked the glass up to drink the straw. I would just bob my head down to get the straw to drink again and then back up. And I think that's where she thought that this was perfect for the part. And like some kind of deep innocence. you know, and just a little baby. That is funny. So we, and she had already picked me, but then I guess I needed to do some kind of screen test with, for Fox.

It was going to be at Fox. And that's when I went off to Paris to do La Nouvement. And that's when I was there at some point doing this film, a fax came in for me. Remember faxes? Oh, yeah, yeah. I got this really long fact. saying Scott Riddens taken on the project.

And so now we're back and we're going to do it at Paramount. And so that's what we did. We went and then we started casting. So for your character, I mean, it's obviously there's a specificity to share, right? Did you have to work on that? Did that just come out of you when you read the dialogue? Or was the dialogue written in there like the as ifs and all this stuff? Because you created something there.

This is not Alicia Silverstone necessarily. There's parts of you, for sure. I mean, there's that innocence. There's that cute. I told you I was completely head over heels in love with you. You know, I was trying to find you. You didn't work very hard to find you. I know, but I was like, where is she?

I don't want to get a hold of her. There's no cell phones. I was like, what if I do? Like, what if she lives? Thomas Guide? I'm trying to figure it out. Couldn't figure it out. But how did you just come out of you, basically?

Well, I thought of myself as a very serious actress at that time. You know, I had not done a comedy yet. Everything I had done was like, I think I'd even done a play at that. I played a coked-out lesbian who overdoses on cocaine in an Orthodox Jewish play. Oh, my God. That sounds like made up, you know, just like a joke. made up. But I did that. So I was doing, you know, things to stretch myself. The people I looked up to at the time was like Jody Foster and Joddy Foster for her that she was directing so young. I thought

that was so cool. And then Laura returned because I saw her in Smooth Talk and I did this scene from Smooth Talk and, you know, she was so good. And so these were the people that I was interested in. So when Clueless came about, I think I was ready to sink my teeth into this interesting part. And what was so, I didn't think I was funny at all. So I thought, oh, that's going to be tricky. But someone, Carolyn, who I was my manager at the time, she said, the funniest thing about you is how seriously you take yourself. But I was like, great, I'm going to go with that. Yeah.

Mean into the seriousness of everything. Have it be, you know, and I think that is what comedy really is. It's just committing. It's just you're committing 100% to what you're. Yeah. To me, they're not even any different, to be honest. It's just, you know, it's only different in how they're put together in the end. But the work you have to do is the same work. You have to believe what you're saying. You have to feel what you're feeling. And so, yeah, I think I remembered these girls that I thought were total bitches in junior high and that, and in high school and stuff, who, you know, thought they were so stuck up about how they dressed and how they dressed and how. you were and I just used that and used that memory of them and I and my imagination of what, you know, how they would be this and and I think Cher is really, really confident. Yeah.

That was fun to just dive in. I don't know if I knew that at the time. I wouldn't have been able to dissect it. I think I was just playing each scene with her environment. She has tons of money. She can do whatever she wants. She persuades everyone. She's always going to get her way.

And she's totally and obviously the queen of everything, which she had decided, right? So that was just fun to play with. But it's such a fine line you had to walk. And I think, you know, some of it is a performance, but a lot of it is just who you are. Because ultimately, you're lovable. You know what I mean? because Share, you can hate her. It's easy to hate someone like that,

but there's something about you that you're like, I can't, you know, and I'm sure that's your energy. That's just who you are, but it's also that taking it seriously, that work that layers that character rather than just, oh, I'm just going to play her

like a rich bitch. I think what I really realized is share, I don't know when I thought of this or how I kind of came to the conclusion. But my first reaction was, I don't want to, you know, I was judging her. I don't want to be one of those people. I don't like these people, right?

These people have everything and spend all this money so wastefully. Like there's nothing about this that is, you know, like who I am or what I would want. But I had to remind myself, well, you're not an actress to play yourself. And I already. So it was sort of. of, well, what can I love about her? And then I realized, oh, she loves her daddy.

Mm-hmm. Loves her dad. Yeah. And she loves taking care of him. And she has a big heart in general. Big heart. Maybe he doesn't know how to, you know, how to operate the heart necessarily yet, but just a big heart. Yeah, she's doing charity work all the time.

Yeah, exactly. She's like taking in tie, you know, that's her chair. She's just. Yeah, that's funny. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip

unforgettable, somewhere with charm, character, and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one.

We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith, but there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. and that's what I believe in. To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other,

sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. Hello, Ed.

I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not, like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear.

Well, 22nd of July 2015. A 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a tape-recorded statement.

The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike. This is in regards to the death of Colleen Slimmer. She just started going off on me, and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slimmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row.

The state has asked for an execution date for Krista. We let people languish in prison for decades, raising questions about who we consider fundamentally unrestorable. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the on. IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We were getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present. IVF disrupted, the kind body story. A podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care. Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients.

You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands, and then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So you got into the game because you love being an actor, fame, money, all that was never really in your purview. But once sort of that hits, once you start to get recognized like a ton and you become famous, was that something you railed against or is it just, part of what you needed to accept?

I think I railed against it for a long time. I have very much, you know, I think when you, there's no school for how, like, there's no preparation for this. And if you don't have anyone around you who's been through this with someone else, how are you, you know, some actors have management and agents who have had many people before them, right? And so they can help them, I think, hope. hopefully with this is how this goes and, oh, yeah, maybe do this. But if you don't have anyone in your world who's ever dealt with anything like this before and you don't know what

you're doing, it is incredibly overwhelming. And I was not prepared in any way should perform for any of it. So I bailed and I went really deep into my activism. You know, that made sense to me and, you know, went to Africa to help elephants and went to the Amazon River to help with the rainforest with Woody and, you know, was going on these trips of sort of discovery and living and trying to do good. And yeah, and then at one point I realized because I'd gotten so deep into it, you know, I was writing books. I wrote The Kind Diet. I wrote The Kind Mama and I'd started a website, The Kind Life, and I was so involved with that. And then I think one day it occurred to me like, I really love acting and why can't I do both?

And the thing is, is you have to kind of start all over because you shut all these doors. Right. You know, that never occurred to me when I went, fuck you and out. Yeah. It didn't occur to me that they wouldn't be right there waiting when I came back. Yeah. No, I know. It's true.

You're like, wait a minute. Yeah. You guys, I'm still here. Wait a minute. Did you start like like a. The first healthy baby formula and all that, am I wrong about that? I created the first ever non-GMO verified, certified, organic, non-GMO,

no philical vitamins. I don't do it. Vitamins, that's right. And to exist anymore. It doesn't, right, okay. I can't even know my kind of organics, but we did it for 10 years and it was great. Wow, but you were at the forefront of that. Yeah, I started.

It was my- Started it. Started the company, yeah. Good for you. God, I wish I had your ambition and follow through. I'd be huge right now. Well, it came from a new. Like, I've often, even the book I wrote The Kind Diet, it came because I needed that book.

I needed, it didn't exist the way all, like, I was handing out different books to different people, but I wanted one book so I could hand to everyone. I had to make it. And that's sort of how I arrive at these things. Have you, had you always been sort of an environmentalist or an, into activism, or do you think your celebrity and the fame sort of took you into that direction because you needed to focus on something real, something that was important? Well, it was in my, it was in my DNA, and it was also.

Yeah, my mom and I would be driving down the street and see a dog running, a stray dog, and stop the car. We were on a freeway, and we'd stop the car. I remember running down the freeway trying to catch this dog, you know, like we weren't, which is not safe. by the way. Okay. But, well-meaning, very well-meaning, but not safe. But I was, you know, they're European and I was, I was trustworthy. Like, I didn't drive in, I didn't dive into traffic. I was on the edge of the road, but still running down the freeway. It's not ideal. We'd do that. And I would, we'd stop and we'd save dogs and cats, mostly dogs.

And so I learned about rescue through my mom for sure. And when I was eight years old, I was with my brother and my mom in England, and we are in the countryside. And I heard the crying of these cows, like, it was wailing. And I didn't know what it was. And I asked, what is that? And she said, asked the farmer. And the farmer said, well, all the babies are being taken away from their moms today. And I was like, what?

Like that? Like, the smile on his face. I was just normal. It was just part of their practice. Yeah. Yeah. You get milk. You can't get milk unless you take, unless you impregnate a cow and then take the milk away from the baby so that you can give it to the human.

And so it's not natural in any way, shape, or form. I think I used to think the cow would explode if they didn't get to give their milk to you. They had so much milk. But that's just not how it works. And then I was on the plane. That really hit me, like someone taking your child and the crying and screaming of this. and then when I was eight and then I was on the airplane going home

and we were sitting there and I think they put lamb on my plate and my brother was like making the sound of lamb as a brother as an older brother of course right and thank God he did because it made me realize

oh my God this is an animal like you know when you're kid and you're just being fed you don't think about where your food came from but the reality of this actually I was like this is lamb this is actually a lamb And then I went home and just tried to be vegetarian on my own.

And my dad was supportive. He got me this book. But I mean, try giving an eight-year-old a dry book about being vegetarian. Right. It was short-lived the principle. I mean, the principle was there, but the actions of it were short-lived. I just ate a lot of ice cream and French fries, and it didn't make any sense. And then eventually I saw a documentary on how we get our food.

And after that, I was done. I just like, I can't look at myself in the mirror anymore and say, you're good. You're contributing to the animals doing well. Like you are a part of the problem. And until you stop, it's not going to stop. And it's still a massive part of your life, right? It is. I mean, I have found balance to just live my life, go where I'm asked, present it as best I can,

and hope that it inspires people. I mean, look, when I made these changes, yes, I did it for the animals. But what happened to me was I was on an asthma inhaler. I had an asthma inhaler every single day. I had allergy shots twice a week. I was taking antibiotics three times a year, at least for bronchitis. Wow. I had acne.

I had all these things that are like normal in our society. And I, you know, if I had continued that way, who knows what it has. happened to me. And I always thought it was good karma that I got to ditch all of that. I ditch the asthma inhaler. All of that went away when I changed my diet. And I didn't know that that was going to happen. That was the miracle. So it drastically changed my life. And it changed Marty. You know, Marty Kalner, who I was telling you about, who did the Erasmith videos, like a few years after I had gone vegan, he said, I have all these health issues, like serious health issues. And I said, well, let's go out to dinner. And we went to dinner at this, it was called

patina at the time. I don't know if you remember that restaurant, French. And they used to do these amazing vegan tasting menus. And so I had them do a vegan tasting menu for us. And I gave him this book by Dr. Neil Bernard called Food for Life. And I said, Marty, all of these things that you have can go away. We can get rid of all of them. And he was like, really? And he went home and devoured that book and went vegan. And he lived a longer life because of those choices that he changed his life. And he was a poster child because everyone who knew Marty before and then who knew Marty after this, he lost all this weight. He became so like healthy. Yeah. I couldn't believe it. You know. Yeah.

and what about bear i mean does bear have any desire interest in meat or anything at all or and if he did are you okay with the experimentation of that as a young kid well when bear was like five years old he wanted to taste ham because the kid in his class had ham who was his best friend and i said you can taste it i said i'll never have it at the house you can taste it for sure And then I don't think he ever did. And then we were at this pizza place, you know, Blaz's pizza where you can pick everything to put on your pizza. And there was a little, you know how there's like a glass partition and a little piece of pepperoni had come under the petition. And he looked at.

Okay. And I said, go ahead, bear, you can have it. And he was like, I said, you can have it. And he was like, and he didn't take it. So it's like he wanted it to try, but then he also didn't. So I always make the choices. He's such a great cook that if he, you know, he really likes the look of fried chicken sandwiches.

He's got on that. So he makes them at home with tofu. He takes like blocks of tofu, breads them, fries it, makes these amazing sandwiches. Oh, it's crazy. And he knows it's getting older, 14, 15, 16, 17, you know, look, I hate to tell you this, but he's going to lose his virginity. I know. It's awful.

It's just going to happen, you know, because he is so sweet. I was lucky enough to meet him, and he's just so sweet. But he's got that boy stuff, like you can tell, you know what I mean? I know, and it's so hard to let him go. Oh, gosh, Wilder's going to be leaving for college next year. And although I got two more, but just walking past his room, we've talked about this on set, but just walking past his room and him. not being there.

I don't know if I can deal with that. I mean, I'm going to be not just crying when he leaves. I'm going to be emotional maybe forever. I don't know. I mean, eventually I'll heal. But I think you should just move wherever he is. Oh, you have three. So that makes me trickier.

No, like, yeah. Yes. Someone told me recently, which I can't even imagine, because I'm still like, no, I'm, I only have him. So I'm definitely moving wherever he. Close enough. He won't have to know. I'm there. This is a little apartment.

No, no, I know Wilder's deciding at schools, there's possible New York or maybe Colorado, and then he's talking about Santa Barbara. When I'm like, ooh, Santa Barbara, that's only like an hour and a half, two hours away where you're further enough away. I will not bother you. And it's a party school. It is a party school. But the location's good.

I don't know. I know. And I know. All right. Last stuff, just generally, are you a happy girl in your life? You know, you're doing stuff now. you're acting your tail off you know you're producing i mean i know a lot about you that we won't talk about but you know are you how you are you happy are you content don't you think i what do you think

do you think i just think that you i just i think you're extremely content but you are a lover by nature and you want someone to love with and to love you and for you to love someone to love someone deeply. Yes. All of us are true. Yes. Um, yeah, I think everything else is set. Like, I love my job. I love my job. I just got to do Yorgos Lanthamos's movie. That's coming out. That is exciting. And, um, and I get to, I'm going to Venice Film Festival in a week. Um, and I'm so lucky to have some really good friends. And I, and I love most importantly I just am obsessed with my son and being with him and we want we're watching stranger things right now

and David Harbour and I are good pals because we worked together on a play a long time ago and anyway so I give him the play by play as I'm watching it like yeah happening and oh whatever but but bear like you know he's oh I probably shouldn't talk about bear because he won't you know but anyway get some snuggles I don't want them to be taken away by him hearing this. No, no, no. You know, he's just, you know, he's my favorite. And I have a good life and I'm so lucky.

Like, we're so lucky that we're safe and that we're healthy and that we have great food to eat. And I feel like we are not surviving. We are thriving. Yeah, great. Yeah. Good. Well, I miss you. I miss you, too.

It's been a minute. I'm back on the 20th, and then, you know, let's figure it out. You go to Venice and do your thing. I didn't get to tell everybody about you in this movie, but maybe that's not right now. That's coming later. Yeah, we did a movie together. It's going to be great. You're so good in it.

Oh, my. Thanks. Yeah. I did day D.R. We've been texting. It's hard to look at yourself. It's just hard to look at yourself. As we get older, you know, and we just say, all right,

You just got to deal with it. Now, lighting is obviously a thing. In some scenes, I thought were better than others. But, you know, it is what it is. I'm an old man. I don't like to watch my shit anymore. No, it's like when you look really good and there's no lighting because it's just like you're outside. Yeah.

That's concerning because you go, I look good and I'm outside and no lights are on me. And then you put some lights on me and I don't look good. Yes. That's what I'm saying. I want no makeup, no lights. Just like, just leave me alone. No, I had such a fun time working with you. We had such a blast.

We connected immediately, you know, very open with each other, which is necessary. You know, doing a movie like this, a Christmas movie, I was like, okay, well, I want to work on it. I don't want to just phone anything in, you know, and I was hoping that you were going to be game and you were beyond game. You know, I was like, well, let's get together. Let's work on these scenes. It's figured out. This shit doesn't make sense. sense. And of course we've got our crazy director who's going every which way. But I had a

blast with you. I had so much fun. It was so fun. And I was sweet that that first day we all, you, me and Wilder were acting like a family in the airport. I know. That was amazing. It's carrying your bag. It's like your passport. We had a good time. You're really fun to act opposite. So thanks. Well, we'll do it again. It'll be fun. all right alice so good to talk to you have the best time in venice thank you lucky girl and uh let's link up when when you get home let's figure something out and say hi to wilder for me i will hey bye bye there she is miss alicia silverstone fun smart talented all the above very cool fun to work with

a little intimidated at first like oh she's gonna be cool I just never know but you know I kind of can get along with anyone and she's definitely easy to get along with we had a great time yeah Christmas movie

I don't know when this episode's releasing but I think our movie releases like November 12th or 13th or something Christmas movie for Netflix really sweet really sweet movie it's what you think it is you know don't expect you know any explosions or blood or you know intense scenes it's it's just a fun holiday movie

that's very sweet uh just like me oliver wellidge hudson bye i just normally do straight stand-up but this is a bit different what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club answer a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story. Does anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as on sort of. as this one.

We sit down with politicians, artists, and activists to bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. The moment is a space for the conversations we've been having us, father and daughter, for years. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now.

Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. America, y'all better work the hell up.

Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever. you get your podcast. And to binge the entire season, ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. In the 1980s,

modeling wasn't just a dream. It was a battlefield. It's a freaking war zone. These people are animals. The Model Wars podcast peels back the glossy cover and reveals a high-stakes game where survival meant more than beauty.

Hosted by me, Vanessa Grigoriatis, this is the untold story of an industry built a ruthless ambition. Listen to Model Wars on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast.