Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Getting to Know You

Episode Date: November 4, 2019

On the first episode of “Sibling Revelry,” Kate and Oliver give the listeners an overview of why they wanted to start a podcast and a look into their dynamic. Even though they come from the same p...arents, they see and feel the world differently. Kate and Oliver discuss the psychology of the sibling, how adding a new brother or sister into the family can change everything, and Kate throws Oliver under the bus by revealing that their mother got him a chef in college. Executive Producers: Kate Hudson, Oliver Hudson, and Sim SarnaProduced by Allison BresnickEditor: Josh WindischMusic by Mark HudsonThis show is brought to you by Cloud10 and powered by Simplecast.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:34 Listen to the Chinatown Stang on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling ravelry. No, no. Sibling reverie.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling rivalry. That's good. Can I start by saying something to you? What? No, for real. Okay. I love you.
Starting point is 00:02:29 I do for real and I don't know where this is going to go and all the different iterations of this and it could get heated and it could get laughy and fun but I've wanted to do this with you for a long ass time and it's happening and I love you and we're blood yes we're the only blood we're the only blood we come from a patchwork family fully patchwork I like that our father Did you come up with that? Or was that a thing? I think I might have read it in a book a while back. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Like some kind of, you know, self-help book. Well, there's blended, but ours is sort of patchwork. It's patchwork. It's crocheted. So you and I, our mom, Goldie, Hahn, and Bill Hudson, got together for a couple years, banged out two kids. Right. Then, called it. London explains everything.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Nebraska explains everything. I was on Regents Park, actually. I was in a bathroom in Nebraska. Yeah, I mean, it's, I'm sure at a cellular level, this has definitely so much to do with our personalities and our life projectories. Entirely. Wow, that's interesting. But that was a period of about like four years they were married.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Four or five years they were married. Yeah. They were divorced. They got divorced when I was five. well right and you were three no no i was 18 months when they called it really yeah so you were well maybe not like officially divorced but i thought it was five years old no i don't know i don't know anyway they got divorced mom was single for a while it's ish singleishish is shit boyfriends okay yeah so then then enter i was about three which means you're about three and a half you're about six
Starting point is 00:04:20 six yeah um and enter K.R. Kurt Vogel Russell. Kurt Vogel Russell. KV.R. So then Boston, so then Boston came into the picture and mom and pa started dating on swing shift, cute story, but we'll say that that's for them. But go back a second because there's a really beautiful story. You want to tell, do you know about when Paul and mom, when they're on their first date? Yeah. And he went and saw us sleeping. Remember that?
Starting point is 00:04:50 Yeah. Well, it was the first time she brought him home to the house. Yeah, it wasn't the first date. Right, right. It was really a sweet, beautiful story. We were living in deep Malibu. And mom said that that's sort of when she fell in love with Kurt was right away. It was because she brought him back to the house and we'd already been asleep and we shared a room. And I remember we had twin beds and I had Annie sheets and you had Star Wars sheets.
Starting point is 00:05:21 and we were sleeping and mom said he walked in and he saw us and she unexpectedly thought he was just going to like peek in and see them right but he sat down next to each of us he sat down next to you first and watched you sleep and then came by i believe he watched me the longest According to the story When mom tells me the story I feel like I got like I was the last one that he looked at And then he sat there for a really long time
Starting point is 00:06:00 Maybe he was just trying to Figure you out You know That can be true I was younger and probably cuter I was like three You were like older You were like you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:06:14 I was like on my awkward phase Yeah you like weren't as cute you know so maybe my looks it was just like oh god he's cute and then it was like oh there's katie and she's like really cute right right right so little right right well he also it wasn't you shouldn't take it person no well here's the thing he's also trying to sort of you know maybe get in mom's pants okay so there's that aspect so it's like let's go to the daughter a little longer you know because the mother daughter relationship because she's the baby so that's what it was no anyway i'm kind of kidding so
Starting point is 00:06:47 Kind of kidding. So, yeah, he sat and he stayed there for a long time. Mom said so long that, like, she was almost like, okay. She had to pee. She was like. She went and peed. Yeah, she was like, Kurt, like, should we do something? I mean, should we get a drink?
Starting point is 00:07:01 He's, like, still in there. Yeah, I loved that story because she realized then, as mom says, that values and kids, family values was everything to Kurt. Then enter Boston. I remember the first time I ever saw. Boston. Do you remember the first time you were saw? I don't think you were in the car actually. We had the Volvo. We had a Volvo station wagon. Oh yeah. Yeah. And we went and we went to pick up. It was the first time I remember Kurt talking about his son. And I remember it was like
Starting point is 00:07:35 it was almost like it was for me it felt like such a big moment. I mean I because it was like oh my God. My mom's obviously madly in love with this guy. He's. And for me, at the time, it was like, is this going to be my dad, you know? Yeah. And I was meeting his son, which meant, is this mean that this is my brother? You know, it was a lot to handle at such a young age. You had so many feelings and connections, and I don't remember any of this. I was, like, floating in space somewhere.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Well, I had none of these feelings. You've been floating in space until about, like, seven months ago. But it's amazing that you remember these feelings. I have very, for me, I don't remember. Very vivid memories being really young. And I remember pulling up to the house. It was up outpost. And it was one of those houses that had no driveway.
Starting point is 00:08:34 It was a staircase. It was one of those gates that had a big, long staircase, like outdoor staircase down to the house. like Laurel Canyon vibe and up came this little toe head he was so little I'll never forget it in the doorway and he was nervous and he had a little I forget what it was it was some kind of like a banky and it was up by his face and he was so cute and skinny and I know and I just remember looking at it oh my god I start getting emotional talking about this and I just I'll never forget his fate I'll never forget it and he came in the back He had he had his little crooked glasses.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Yeah. Yeah. Oh. I know. And he came in and sat next to me and it was like, who is this kid? And then we started driving, and it was just like, you know, that, I mean, it was just, that was it. That was, that was my introduction to Boston. And within, he was very shy at first.
Starting point is 00:09:37 And then within hours, it was like, oh, no. Like, he's just. Just insane. I mean, hop skip and a jump was his nickname. He did not stop moving. He had the highest, loudest voice. He would get in your face. He took everything out of your hands. And he was deep, deep into the fantasy world. Oh, everything. Peter Pan. He was obsessed with Peter Pan. And it wasn't like a normal, it wasn't like a normal obsession. Like he was Peter Pan. Oh, yeah. He believed he was Peter Pan. I remember one time Boston, I used to share a. room in the beginning. And I remember one time he woke up, he used to talk in his sleep and he woke up and he literally sat up and went Peter Pan just, you know, he said it was Captain Hook fly flying overhead, flying. And like went back down.
Starting point is 00:10:27 I was like, oh my God, he's nuts. This is real. Like he really, he, in his dream state, he's Peter Pan. Yeah, that was interesting throwing another kid into the mix right away. And then one, one Christmas, Santa. leaves a little present. We all see it. It's up at the very...
Starting point is 00:10:48 It was in the chimney. In the chimney. That's right. It was in the chimney. There were sleigh tracks going off of the roof. Right. With the roof, we were able to get to the roof. Blitzin's bells had come off of his neck.
Starting point is 00:10:59 And they were laying in the snow on the roof. And then stuck in the chimney was a present. A present that got left behind. Left behind, right. And we opened the present from standing. We didn't know what it was. This is in Aspen. It was a little onesie.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Yeah. It was a little onesie. And we were like, what is this mean? And they're like, I don't know. Cut to mom-paw are pregnant. Yeah. It was a great way to sort of kind of slip it in there with the kids that there might be a kid on the way. And mom-and-power preggers with little why not.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Yeah. Wyatt Russell. And I remember thinking because we were older at the time. I mean, I was six and, I mean, older in terms of, you know, and you were almost 10, nine. Yeah. And when he was born, we were seven and 10. So for me, as a girl, it was like having a doll. It was like having a baby.
Starting point is 00:11:58 And he was the baby. He was this like, I mean, talk about the golden child. I mean, we all had awkward phases. You know, you look at pictures of us as kids and we're all like weird looking and making weird faces. God, Wyatt was so cute. Wyatt was the cutest baby. Called him little man. Still calling him little man.
Starting point is 00:12:17 He was the little man. And he had these big lips and those, you know, pause, those eyes, the Russell eyes. Blue, blue, blue eyes. Another toe head. I mean, he was just so cute. And he was such, he was a July baby, cancer. And he was so sensitive. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:38 So sensitive. We will have Boston and Wyatt on at some point. Multiple times. Oh, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't know about Wyatt. Wyatt might be too cool. No, he's in.
Starting point is 00:12:50 He's in. I'll make him. But anyway, Boston, you know, especially for me, he got me into a lot of trouble because I would kick him or do whatever I was doing. And, you know, the minute that he told on me, that was it. I mean, I had, it was judge, jury throw away the key I was done for. And I got in trouble all the time. Remember, Boston was the one that we used to make Ask Paw everything. Like if we wanted a trampoline, we'd be like Boston.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Yeah, because he would get a yes. We'd convince Boston how important it was to like get a trampoline because we knew that if he asked Paa, by end of the day we'd have a trampoline. Well, whenever we wanted something, we'd get together and make it happen. Yeah. And then once we get it, then, you know, I hate you and I'm out of you for being, which who you are and oh god so great you know you were so many great stories so let's so let's keep going so at this why did you bother me though i really wonder about that we talk about it that i did but i've never really thought about it i mean i mean i i can tell you this i mean i can spell it out for you i think
Starting point is 00:14:02 i think it would take too long to actually spell the whole thing out i could sing it I can get the rights to this, I think. I think it was, you think it was... I could definitely get the rights to this song on our podcast. Okay. Because he's jealous. He's jealous again. There probably was a little bit of that.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Oh, Oliver, come on. By the time I came home, I think it's for every... It'll be great when we get a child, you know, psychologist, a family sort of psychology. Yeah. The dynamic shifts, like when you're, when, when you have the attention of a parent, you know, and then all of a sudden you throw in to the mix, you know, and, you know, not only that, you were still so young. And there is something like little girls is a whole different feeling than boys, you know? I mean, just by nature, people are more doting, I think, on little girls. I think the other thing, too, is that I, we didn't have a stable family, right?
Starting point is 00:15:11 So there was divorce. There was a lot of instability. And I think that for me, especially, I attached myself to mom, you know, and dad, I'm sure. But when you came into the mix, it was unstable to begin with. Yeah. And it was bullshit because you came in. And we forget, I mean, as someone, I mean, I'm literally, here I am with a five-month-old, you forget how much much goes into babies so you really have to focus on the baby and it's really hard when you're
Starting point is 00:15:42 that little i mean it just is you have to you know and i'm at that time i mean think about all of the things and the research we know and the things that we do at that time like you took you took attention away from me yeah in a time where you needed it i needed it because there was no stability in the in the in the in the home right so then you hated me yeah you would take all oranges and catapult them into my... In your crib. And I missed. I know.
Starting point is 00:16:12 You did. Damn it. We had a childhood that I think a lot of people would look at and think that it was, you know, the best childhood. Mm-hmm. And I, in retrospect, look back and go, we had just a wonderful upbringing. Oh, yes. I mean, we're very lucky human beings.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Right. But like any other family or family dynamic, then at some point you have to accept the fact that, yes, on the outside, everything looks great, but there's always going to be something. There's always going to be the family dynamic. Someone's going to fuck someone up whether you're, you know, I always say like you could be,
Starting point is 00:16:52 Mother Teresa and Gandhi could be your parents. Oh, they're going to fuck you. And they're going to, yeah, I mean, you're like, okay, yeah, you know, and you're going to be like, mom was gone all the time. You're like, yeah, what about me? Gandhi's dad Gandhi's son is probably like dad like I get it and I love what you're doing but like what about me yeah I mean I mean I want you to right yeah please like please pay
Starting point is 00:17:14 attention to me I think but that's what I mean so it's funny and mother Teresa imagine me the daughter mother Teresa it's like listen mom you are out healing the world but what about me you know I'm so sensitive with this stupid podcast because I don't want to sound like a like a spoiled asshole but Here's the thing. Well, you'll, and I'm not a spoiled asshole. You're not a spoiled asshole. Think about how we grew up. Just think about it.
Starting point is 00:17:41 I know, but it has nothing to do with being an asshole. Yeah, but we were actually raised really well. I know, I understand. So let people think you're an asshole. Who cares? I know, maybe that's the lesson. You know what I mean? Like, I get it.
Starting point is 00:17:54 You're the one who called me out. Mom sent you a chef, Oliver. That needs to be cut from this podcast immediately. Immediately. Immediately. It's the truth. I I couldn't believe it.
Starting point is 00:18:15 He was a horrible chef. These casseroles were disgusting. But this is what I'm saying. People go. You don't have to cut this because we're being honest here. I didn't ask for casserole. rolls every week. Not the point. I said to mom,
Starting point is 00:18:36 the rest of the world goes, God, what a dick. Nobody would have said that, you know why? Because no one knew I had a chef. Until now. Until now. You told people that there was a chef that brought me fucking food every week. I spent most of my teenage years rolling my eyes
Starting point is 00:18:54 at the things that were going on with you. But by the way, here's a thing. It just is what it is. At the end of the day, like, you don't really, you don't have to apologize. We, we were, we were born really fucking lucky. But that doesn't mean that it doesn't mean there's a responsibility to understanding how lucky we are. And I think our parents raised us knowing that it was luck, that it wasn't our work ethic.
Starting point is 00:19:19 I told the chef I didn't want him anymore, okay? I was greatly embarrassed. I know. I didn't like his food. And I have one word. I have one word. for you snowplow child it's a hyphen word snowplow child no yeah it's part of the issue to to no totally i was like middle and and like everything was like oh you're fine you're fine
Starting point is 00:19:50 you don't need this you also had you don't need you didn't have you didn't have nearly the struggles that i had i had i had full middle child like look it's mom oh my god Hey, Mama. Hi, Mommy. Hi, sweetie. Where's Bodie? School. Yeah, he's...
Starting point is 00:20:09 No, he's not at school. He's at home. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Hey, Mom, can I ask you a question real quick about... You got me a chef in college, right? Yeah, yeah. Why did you do that to me?
Starting point is 00:20:23 Because you weren't eating. Katie and I were just talking about this, and she reminded me of this. You weren't eating. No, I remember, like, you got... Mom was concerned about you. She rightfully said. For the boys, because you weren't eating right. And I wanted them to come and just put stuff in your refrigerator.
Starting point is 00:20:38 That's why you're a snow plunge. But who did you call to get this done? I don't know. You know, I source things out. What can I tell you? It's been a long time ago. But it's probably not a good thing that you did that for me, though. I mean, that's embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:20:54 I mean, we were just talking about it. It's like horribly embarrassing. I mean, I was a college kid and there was being fucking, Oh, she's gone. She hung up. Oh, there she is. I don't want to be in. She says, whoops, lost you, bad area.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Oh, good. Okay, anyway, can we, let's not, let's move on. But here's the thing. No, here's the point. I had struggles that you had never understood. Oliver is using this podcast as a way to break down our cycle. I, you, you put a lot, you want to go deeper. with me in a way that I'm just like I'm happy to go there with you I just didn't have the same
Starting point is 00:21:37 experience you're the one calling me a snowplow kid but you were you can't expect me to come back after you're calling me a snowplow kid I need a retort I need to defend myself meaning that I had struggles of my own that you've never understood or gone through yourself I was there I saw it no but you've never experienced what it's like to be what I know your career There was, you just boom, like this. Yeah, but we're talking, but there's a reason for that. Luck. Some.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Major. And dedication. And personality type. Talent, talent is, goes without saying. You're extremely talented. Oliver. Oliver. All I ever did. Penny Lane wasn't even your job.
Starting point is 00:22:21 You didn't even get Penny Lane first. Oh my God. She didn't get Penny Lane first. Here's the thing. She fell into Penny Lane. Here's the thing. You want us to have the same experience. I don't want.
Starting point is 00:22:31 to have the same experience. I'm so grateful for my experience. The reality was is that I was a different type of person. No doubt. I was way more dedicated to the craft. All I did was perform, sing, make music, dance. I danced, I mean, I was dedicated to performing arts from a really young age. It was very different. You were like partying and like, you were like freestyling with like, yeah, which is dope. like John and Alex and you were like you had you had a crew how dope is that called the rice crispy crew snap crackle and pop snap crackle and pop so I freestyle you can you don't know how to yeah yeah well that's not the point the point is is that what have you done with your freestyling
Starting point is 00:23:20 a lot I've done it in a movie I'm just saying I'm saying that we were very we were very different we were very different personality types freestyling a lot a lot opened up my creative brain. A lot based on how we were raised and our experience of who we were and how that happened. That's just the truth. No, look, I always used to say to mom, interestingly enough, I said, because her story, her success story is really awesome. Amazing. Her world that she grew up in and how it happened for her. And I remember saying, God, I'm just so envious of you because I will never have that story. I almost was rejecting where I came from because I have it so easy. And I'll never have that cool fucking story. Now, I don't have her story, but I do have my story. I mean, it's been
Starting point is 00:24:07 a struggle. It's been tough. It's been working. You know, people think that for me, it was like, oh, you can just go do what you're going to do because of what your parents are. Now, have I dedicated myself like you? No, not even close. My dedication is coming later on in life. Well, Ollie, you had a, that's what I'm saying. You, you, I mean, I'm trying to figure out how to say this without sounding like it's like you had a lot to go through you you had to mature oh I like came out like a hundred years old yeah okay I was like ready to I was ready to run in ninth grade like I was like high school partying no right hardly did that I I know I know I didn't I was boy crazy I loved boys yeah the reality is is it you know mom and I might be outnumbered in terms of
Starting point is 00:24:59 the men, but like, that's some real, like, we're very outspoken women, you know, and given the forum and the stage to be who I was from mom. So what you're saying is this podcast is a chance for me to be better than you? No, I think this podcast is, is that it's an interesting dynamic. About life, you know, and that's why I love what my life has been up to this point, even through all of the shit. When you said, you know, mom has this amazing story and I never felt like, it's funny for me, I was so ready for my own story. I never felt that I wanted to compete or that it was ever. It was ever going to be something.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I was just like, I'm ready to go live my life. You're ready to go make your own story. I was envious of a story and I was living in a defeatist place immediately and you were of this optimism of I'm going to go create my own story. And I think let's go back to how our experiences was as siblings. Like we, no matter what, you know, we had, you know, our relationship with our father is where it is now. But growing up, we did have that as the foundation of, I think, informed most of our childhood and most of our young adult life until we had to like do the deep dive into why do we make the decisions we make or why do we keep making the same
Starting point is 00:26:40 decisions or why am I you know all of the stuff that anyone does when they're at a point in their life when they say I need a change this is this this part of my life isn't working so how do I understand myself better the science of myself better like we both had that it just is different even though it's the same situation right and i think that's what's so interesting about this show and this podcast is that we have the same mom and the same dad we both in our own little way you know you know had whatever trauma we felt from our father and and our mother at times and and and we both and stepfather like any family dynamic yeah which is exactly which is not any different from anybody else. Right. Because everyone has a different, well, degrees, well, yes,
Starting point is 00:27:32 but my point is, is that we saw it and felt it differently. You know, we always talk about our parents and how their actions affect us as kids and what direction we go in and affects our psyche and everything else. But we really don't talk much about how a new sibling coming into your life will shift and transition your entire life, will change your entire life for the good for good or bad you know because everything changes when your world is disrupted by another entity by another energy that is taking focus from you from your parents you know and it's really I don't feel like it's even talked about that much the psychology of the sibling you know and when we talk about the psychology of the parent like we hit on that over and over and over again there's
Starting point is 00:28:25 books and books written about it. And I'm sure there are books written about the sibling psychology. But it's definitely not at the forefront of things. And potentially just as important, you know, because you coming into my world at that point in my life, it shifted my being forever. So here's a good statistic. You bitch. Firstborns are usually the center of attraction as compared to the younger siblings firstborns have approximately 3,000 more hours of quality time with their parents between ages 4 and 13. So even when you probably felt like, because I know from my point of view as the middle child, even when you felt like, okay, well, she's taking away this or now I have to deal with this other dynamic, from my point of
Starting point is 00:29:18 you, you were always the center of that attention, far more than what I ever felt. Meaning that that was your perspective. That was my perspective. Or my perspective was the antithesis. Was the opposite. Yeah. Statistically speaking, I'm probably more correct than you. I think we're going to be hearing a lot of that through this entire podcast.
Starting point is 00:29:38 No, but it is an interesting statistic. If I could use my platform and we could use our relationship as a way to kick start a dialogue, with people. I want to talk so badly. I know. I'm going to let you talk in a second. What I'm trying to say is if I could give anything back and I think that's why we want to do this and we're going to laugh about our child or whatever.
Starting point is 00:30:02 But at the end of the day, we're going to have people on this show that we will realize no matter where we all come from, we can all sit and laugh and relate to so many similar stories. And that at the end of the day, we just want each other to love. to be there to support and love each other it makes us feel like we can do anything it makes the worst possible circumstance feel okay well the other thing too about what we're doing here i think and going back to even talking about who we are and how we grew up and my issues with you know my success and all of those things it's extremely relatable to other people's situations i very rarely
Starting point is 00:30:44 talk about this, but I will talk about this for our podcast because I think it gives us a form to be able to speak more in depth about it. When you grow up with, you know, parents like we have, you do feel apologetic about a lot of things. Like you do spend a lot of your young adult life trying to reject where you came from because you feel like you're not a part of like you don't want people to think that you can't relate to them or that you know so but so you do spend a lot of your time i i think you and i think that's a product of how we were raised yeah i did my best to mask it i didn't want anyone to know who my parents were i wanted people to like me for myself. I didn't want to have any inkling of, oh my God, maybe I'm not good enough, really.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Well, it's so funny because when we were kids in high school, especially when I only went to college, every girl wanted to be my friend because my brother was, like, cool and hot, and that used to drive me crazy. Yeah, you know why? Because I freestyled. So you're asking, your air act. My bad beat box. My bad beef on. No. Oh, my. It's actually not that difficult.
Starting point is 00:32:13 It's weird. I know. I don't know why I can't do it. I've never been able to do it. Do this. I have a great. First of all, your hands are like this. No one's hearing a word you're saying.
Starting point is 00:32:32 I know, but I'm trying to get that like tribe sounds that's a little, that feels far away that feels a little like you're not in, you're not like hitting the speakers yet. Oh, Jesus. This is not. Oh, my God. I know I can do it. It's like confidence.
Starting point is 00:32:58 That's my thing. It's my confidence in. And my freestyle is terrible. When we do get Q-tip on here, you're going to have to get your beatbox down better. First of all, Ryder's so good at it. And you guys, your brain just works really good. I am the worst. I cannot even rhyme, like, with me.
Starting point is 00:33:17 If I'm trying to freestyle. Me, you're like, uh, good G. And, yeah, totally. Like, Kate, there's B, free, C, key. There's a million Bs. and nothing makes sense and so now the big thing with the kids in the car with me is I just I'm like writer give me a beat
Starting point is 00:33:38 he's like mom don't do this he's like give me a beat come on and he gives me a beat and I I just start freestyling and the kids are like oh this is so bad I'm so bad at it but you you're good at so many other things Ryder's so funny so in hip hop right now
Starting point is 00:33:59 Is he? Oh, yeah, big time. This is good because I do want to get some hip. We grew up 90s hip hop. Hip hop then was so good. I wouldn't know one thing about hip hop if it wasn't for you. True. Bringing that into our home.
Starting point is 00:34:15 So, like, part of my musical experience growing up was, you know, you, your discovery of music. Anytime you brought something in the house, it became the favorite thing for me. And anytime I brought Scott Kahn into the house, that became a part of you, too. Hey, Scottie. Oh, no, it didn't. You made out with, you hooked up with Scottie Kahn. Oh, my God. Growing up, I did not. The world needs to know that that never happened. Wait a minute. You're not calling Scott.
Starting point is 00:34:49 That's not true, though. But we didn't, we never made out. Yes, you did. We never made out. I never made out with Scottie Kahn. This is not true. I didn't. I think you did. Sometimes I ram slow.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Sometimes I rom, quick. Quick. That's nice and smooth. That was another one of our favorites. Or black sheep. Engine engine number nine on the New York train's it line. If my train goes off the track, pick it up, pick it up, pick it up. Back on the scene.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Whisbee and cleat. I'm so glad Scott Kahn did not answer. I know. You know, he was maybe my first crush of all of your friends. I thought you made out with him. No, I'm pretty sure. I'm going to get to the bottom of it. No, I never made out with him, ever.
Starting point is 00:35:40 I'm getting to the bottom. We never made out. There might have been a, like. I think you did. I don't, I don't think so. I would have remembered. If I didn't remember, then I'm getting old. I think a great way to wrap up our first.
Starting point is 00:35:58 sibling revelry we should finish it off with a freestyle we talked a lot about freestyling I think that you know it's something that people don't know about you is there's way too much pressure
Starting point is 00:36:14 that's been put on this like well I think we can just kind of flow but I feel like we need a beat I need like a generic beat God oh this is like ooh yeah
Starting point is 00:36:27 Oh, this is all right. It's kind of fast. Siblings, brothers, and sisters, I missed the time that we were all together when we were kids, maybe nine, maybe eight. It's kind of great when it was that state, but now we're in a whole dimension. I'll tell you right now, I've got tension,
Starting point is 00:36:45 but back then I had none. We just used to eat cinnamon sticky buns, and now all we do is complain, but it's okay, because it's not the same. We dwelled back in the rain, now we're here in the sun, Together, we make mun, mon, money. That's pretty funny.
Starting point is 00:37:16 All right, let's end with that. See, here's the thing. You got to tune in. I wish I could do that. That's one thing that I wish. We've figured something now. I had of yours. It's a limited of freestyle.
Starting point is 00:37:32 One day, one day I will attempt my freestyle. Oh, it's going to happen. It's going to happen. It's so bad. Well, let's wrap it up. Okay. I love you.
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Starting point is 00:37:57 whoever's listening out there. And if you like, it's not desperate in the beginning. No, no, no, no. Okay, can I say something right now? I want this to be the thing with you and you and this is what it should be right now. Like just put this out.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Yeah, just put it out there. I feel desperate. You're saying, no, no, this is what people do. We'll do it in the beginning. What are you doing the credits. Yeah. This should be it. No, but put yourself in the shoes.
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