Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - I Approve This Message with Governor Newsom (Part 1)

Episode Date: December 23, 2024

Gavin Newsom lives and breathes California politics, but the Politickin' governor reveals a side the state rarely gets to see in this episode of Sibling Revelry.  He is joined by his sister, Hila...ry who reveals a few family secrets and the scariest part of being a Newsom.  Plus, what role could Oliver play in a possible Presidential bid?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an IHeart podcast. September is a great time to travel, especially because it's my birthday in September, especially internationally. Because in the past, we've stayed in some pretty awesome Airbnbs in Europe. Did we've one in France, we've one in Greece,
Starting point is 00:00:15 we've actually won in Italy a couple of years ago. Anyway, it just made our trip feel extra special. So if you're heading out this month, consider hosting your home on Airbnb with the co-host feature you can hire someone local to help manage everything, Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?
Starting point is 00:00:40 Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story. Does anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians, artists, and activists to bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. The moment is a space for the conversations we've been having us father and daughter for years. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row.
Starting point is 00:01:47 How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Introducing IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. It grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families,
Starting point is 00:02:21 It also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patience. You think you're finally, like, in the right hands. You're just not. Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings.
Starting point is 00:02:51 We are a sibling reverie. No, no. Sibling reverie. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling Reavory. That's good. Oliver, I feel like this is our first political interview.
Starting point is 00:03:20 like an interview with someone in politics. Yeah. Because we don't like getting into pot. Like we're not, this is not right. We're not a political podcast. I don't talk about politics. We don't talk about politics.
Starting point is 00:03:32 I like can't stand politics. I don't like politics. You know, it's. I'm excited because I feel like we should be interviewing all kinds of politicians. I don't care which side of the aisle you're on. No, great.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Right? I want to open the door. Yes. Yes. You deal with the political side. It's a, things and I will just talk about how good looking, how good looking we both are. So I'm going to go social. I'll be the social guy and then you can do the hard-hitting politic. Oh, God, don't do that. I can't. I can't.
Starting point is 00:04:03 You are. You're way more opinionated than I am in the political arena. Only around the dinner table. I don't need to take this into it. Yeah, I don't like, I'm a humanist. I'm not a politician. I'm a humanist. I go human first party second okay well all right yeah you know what i mean well let's introduce yeah bring them our new our guests today we have Gavin Newsom it's not a threesome it's a twosome I think my belly is a gruesome his sister Hillary Gavin Usum, let me rest on your bosom. You've never heard that before. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Look, if he runs for a president, he's got a new test. What's up, everybody? Hey, what's it going on? Hillary, hello, welcome. Okay, we went on it. We went in on the joke. I was just, I like, I don't. You don't want to know.
Starting point is 00:05:14 I make up songs all the time, and I was like just singing. And it's inappropriate. It's not inappropriate. It was. You're a governor. You can't. Gavin Newsome. I want to rest on your bosom.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Okay. I'm getting a. I'm here for you. I'm here. I got to go. I've got two of them. Yeah. I have a root canal.
Starting point is 00:05:35 That's the best selling. That's amazing. That's amazing song. Welcome to. our podcast. Yes. If you do decide to run for president, I would like that to be your jingle. That's going to be the jingle? Yeah. Or you just perform it at the inauguration if you went. Exactly. Oh, God. Yeah, who's going to be a Trump's inaugural? I'm at, who's the entertainment this year? Oh, gosh. I don't know. I don't know. It's going to be hard to top his last one. I'm sure Hulk Hogan. Hulk Hogan will be there.
Starting point is 00:06:08 inadvertently was at a Trump rally by going to the UFC match. Oh, yeah. Oh, right. Anything like that. My kids are like, mom, we want to go to UFC? I was like, cool, let's go. And I had no idea. Are it crazy?
Starting point is 00:06:23 Wow, I'd never experienced such energy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's a good PC word. Yeah. Yeah. And I, it was, it was really something. I'll tell you.
Starting point is 00:06:37 No, it's. But it's, yeah, I mean, he's completely co-opted that sport, hasn't he? I mean, completely. 100%. Oh, it's an aggressive sport. I know. Oh, yeah. Well, he's been, I mean, he's been with Dana White for a long time now.
Starting point is 00:06:50 He's been, you know what I mean? Dana White after the election said, I'm tapping out of this. Yeah, yeah. Because there's a lot of stress out there on both sides. So you don't need any of that. No, no, no, no, not at all. So what's going on with you too? Well, I just want to start by saying I came into this office and there's family
Starting point is 00:07:08 photos here, not one of me. So I can tell, if that's a foundation for our relationship, I just wanted to share that. But there are seven of me. You may see different stages of my life. Yes. You know what's funny about that is this is
Starting point is 00:07:22 like a similar, not complaint with pictures necessarily, but it's that sort of black sheep mentality of, well, who is liked more, you know, who is honored more in the family. And you know, Katie and I have those arguments. I think like mom probably loves me more
Starting point is 00:07:38 even though she has far exceeded any success that I have had, you know. But by the way, you, no BS, you actually believe that, don't you? Oliver. Yeah, well, he knows it. Oh, and I know it. Yeah, yeah. Does she tell you that? Or is that like a quiet thing?
Starting point is 00:07:55 She tells you, just you feel it. I feel it. Gavin, can I call you that governor, governor? Gavin, I don't. Yes. I'm uncomfortable with politicians. My name's new scum, according to Trump.
Starting point is 00:08:08 So, hell, don't call me governor. I went forward to meeting him and saying Hillary New Scum. Yeah, Hillary New Scum. I'm actually petitioning to change our last names right now. So it's perfect. That's your damn problem. See, you got it easy, man. You got, like, fancy sister thing.
Starting point is 00:08:24 She's stuck with me and everyone that hates me and, like, getting recall, all that. She's like, oh, you're not. I mean, she literally, she'll go to places, not kidding. Like, getting groceries, said, oh, seen a credit card go, God, I hope you're not related to that Gavin Neusser. She's like, of course I'm not. Distinct cousin, ew. What are you crazy? Well, actually, you know, we're going to get into all kinds of shit and go back. But this was actually a question that I had in my mind. I didn't know when I was going to ask when I ask it now. I can hardly deal with getting rejected from an
Starting point is 00:08:54 audition. You know what I mean? It's just how do you deal? And even you too, how do you both deal with like the vitriol and the anger and the just constant annihilation? Like, because that's obviously you know what game you're in so it comes with the territory but does it ever affect you or are you just so thick skin i mean do you ever sit in the closet and cry and say who am i why did i do this no he's not thick skin i'm so sick what the hell are you talking about nothing i was just i was going to answer your question but i put the tequila over in the corner so i can't reach it i can't reach it it's right there there it is no man it doesn't i don't think you know i've been doing this forever and I remember like the first time I don't know if this happened to your body burn
Starting point is 00:09:41 an epigy that's like a real life size body and it was like 18th in Castro in San Francisco and I'll never forget seen it physical as I was in an event and they wanted to make sure that I was you know celebrated a little bit and to see the actual flames of a burning body with your face on it I'm like damn that was that was kind of the beginning of my political life and as a supervisor for mayor of San Francisco and the city that apparently I was loved in. And so I've been at this forever. And no BS, I don't think it gets easier. And people that say, it gets easier.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I call bullshit. I just don't believe that. I was at the Balboa Cafe and we were, I was sitting at a table next to four or five guys that were just bashing my brother the entire time. And the waiter asked me what I should do. And what do you wanted me to do? And I said, don't do anything. Don't do anything.
Starting point is 00:10:31 So when I left, I said, send them a round of beers on Hillary Newsom and say that you really enjoyed their conversation about my brother. Amazing. And he called me five minutes later and goes, God, I wish you were here. All of them were like, no, the dude's cool. So sorry. Oh, thanks for the beers. That is awesome. So I try and kill him with kindness, although every once in a while I will call my brother and say, you might see me on the news tonight.
Starting point is 00:10:56 I was a bit of a Karen at Target, you know, with this woman who, you know, had an I hate Gavin booth right outside for no reason. So every once in a while I have to check myself. there are a couple people that like me though i met one no literally like three months ago someone said you know they were like thank you for the tip and i was like wow that's so nice thank you i am even though i'm the younger sister i'm very like when i'm with him i'm like okay back off back off kind of security no no i mean hurl to hate at me don't hurl it in him i mean security has to be a real thing especially now i mean there's so much anger and hatred Looney ever since, and that really, that just like 10X during COVID and it never really
Starting point is 00:11:35 went away. Just all that stress and energy outside the gates for, it was about a year where you really couldn't, I mean, we had to sneak out the back of the house. We had these little escape routes, the kids, that was the hardest thing with the, I got four young kids and just to hear the chance at night and or drive in and people are, you know, are trying to lay in front of their car and their little kids or worse when they go to school and then you know my daddy hates your daddy or something and that's like crazy that's hard and that's where i think that's where these are lines that i just even back i joke about the mayor days i mean
Starting point is 00:12:09 there was a different level of respect for institutions for people even if you disagree with them even though you know you went after them but then you know at dinner you didn't go after them at a sporting event you didn't go after them you didn't go after their kids now there are no damn lines man it's just free for all no my god would i go up you said up the Sacramento to see the soccer games with him and his kids. I'm like, why are you hiding in a tree? He's like, because if I don't, I'll be yelled at just to be able to watch his kids play soccer. Well, I have the worst thing. And now, this is like therapy. By the way, I love it. Oh, yeah. How much is this going to go?
Starting point is 00:12:42 No, this is how it works. This is how it works. People open up here. I don't know what to tell you. No, like, but I'm like, okay, I'm out of money down. I got nothing to complain about. I should shut up. But this, this, this is what I knew, like, the world erratic could change. So I'm like, nothing cuter than little kids playing soccer. Like, you know, just like six of them around the ball type soccer, like the cutest thing. And so I'm my little cute son Dutch, like the cutest thing, legitimate. They're like just sweet kid, doesn't know. And so that we have a game.
Starting point is 00:13:13 We lost badly, which was like important for the story. And we're walking in the parking lot and we're going and I'm holding his hand and this SUV runs up. And there's a uniform of the kid. in the back of the car. So there was two kids in his car. And it was a dad rolled down the winter. I figured he's just going to say hello, great game. And he goes, fuck you. And I said, right in front of my son, in front of his son. No. Fuck you. You suck Newsom. Go fuck yourself. And literally drives on. And I'll never forget. That was for me. I got in the car and I gave him my cell phone like, you can go do your social media.
Starting point is 00:13:53 And he said, and I remember a hundred, Dutch looked at me, he goes, are you all right? said I'm fine and my heart was literally pounding on the way home feeling just that was the most demoralizing of all the sort of hate how do you explain that to your kid I mean it is they get it I mean they must understand the word fuck but didn't understand it yeah but he remembers the finger they always remember it's the first thing that happens I will say though you know I have the privilege of a lot of perks with my brother being governor I got a stalker um that was one of my favorite perks. He used to be mine, so.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Well, yeah, but Gavin has a wall around him. So, yeah, I'm in. You literally did get put in my soccer. I got the stocker. He was, by the way, about to get out of jails. So he got bored of Gavin. He was like, oh, this is boring. No, he couldn't get to Gavin.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Couldn't get to Gavin. So he decided to come to me. And luckily, he violated the restraining order that I had. And by the way, this is true story. Originally, I walked home, and he was with my oldest daughter in the house at the computer had lied, said he was a family member. She knew everything about our family, so it felt really realistic. Told my daughter, it was home alone.
Starting point is 00:15:08 No, with the nanny. The nanny was there, but alone, meaning no other family members, and was literally going through the computer and literally get it. I mean, that's, this was crazy stuff. Anyway, why are you still doing this? Get out of this game. What do you mean? Go work on the, go.
Starting point is 00:15:24 go go the longshoreman you'd be a really handsome longshoreman you know you're paid well man they get paid really well got great pension that's right are there any parts in any of your movies by the way he could start there he's not coming back to plumpjack it's my job now so that would just scare me so much that just even like yeah that would be one of those things where you would really like i would assess why i'm doing it but then i guess that's the other thing i mean this That's why you're doing it because it matters. Yeah. No, it's like I said, if, you know, it's sort of the beginner's mind.
Starting point is 00:16:02 You don't know what you don't know when you get into this. But, you know, having, you know, if I knew what I know now, there's no doubt when you're just starting a family. I would honestly, there's certain things think twice about. But at the time, I didn't, I would never, there weren't even points of consciousness. I was like, wouldn't know better. like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in, and how to make
Starting point is 00:16:41 it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm character and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Together we're launching The Moment. a new podcast about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith.
Starting point is 00:17:43 But there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in. To bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other, sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We were getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing.
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Starting point is 00:19:19 From a very rural background myself, my dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin, so like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed. this family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes
Starting point is 00:20:06 center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a tape recorded statement. First and be being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike, which is in regards to the death of Colleen Slimmer. She just started going off on Eve and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slimmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row.
Starting point is 00:20:48 The state has asked for an execution date for Krista. We let people languish in prison for decades, raising questions about who we consider fundamentally unrestorable. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Knowing what you know now, would you have gotten into this game?
Starting point is 00:21:32 Yes, no bullshit. I'll give you an example. Literally the other day, just another one of those sort of magical moments. True story. I'm at an event. This is a couple weeks ago, and you were there. I didn't even tell you about this. someone came up and an older woman and said, I'm so glad you're here, I didn't know you're going
Starting point is 00:21:52 to be here. I said, thank you. I'm nice to meet you. She goes, no, no, I have someone I want you to meet. And I said, who? It says, I'm a patient advocate. And this is one of the people that I'm advocating for. She's undocumented. And she's not getting treatment anymore. And I said, why is she not getting treatment? Well, because Donald Trump got elected. And I said, what she's just so we're trying to get her back in for chemo she stopped and it was she said you're not you I literally said so what why you're bringing her she says because she said if you would tell her it's okay I think she'll go back and get the treatment she comes up Spanish speaking only she tells her I'm crying she's crying I'm hugging her and then the advocate is crying
Starting point is 00:22:41 and hugging me saying thank you you don't know what you just did and I didn't do anything and I walked away going I have the what a gift this is the greatest gift in my life anytime I feel like shit I have those moments where you can do something as simple as that said it's going to be okay and do it with some sincerity and conviction and to back it up and say no in California it is going to be okay I'm going to fight like hell for you and and that's uh that's why you do this stuff things like that seriously yeah I will say literally the day before my mom passed she said to him do not run for mayor. Do not do this. You're too sensitive. You're, you know, it's such a dark space. And so she passed thinking that you'd be a good listener. I always listen to my mom.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Too sensitive. Yeah. Like he has a heart. I know. Crazy. Well, I mean, it's so interesting because, you know, sensitivity can go both ways, right? Right. Empathy. Empathy. But I care way too much about what people think of me. And that can definitely sort of, you know, fuck me up a little bit and stops my forward progress because I worry. I want to be liked. And how could you,
Starting point is 00:23:55 how could I possibly do a job like you could do? Like you would do. Come on, man. Your point is about auditioning. You picked the wrong damn profession as well. The hell's wrong with you. No, I know. I mean, I'm in acting for ugly people called politics.
Starting point is 00:24:09 You at least, you know, come on. man. Oh my God. It is, but it is. I think that, I mean, right? I mean, there's a, and your profession, it's always fun to read about those actors that sort of find, maybe you've done in your own life, sort of find those moments where they, you know, they find that sweet spot where they sort of give themselves over. And they're not, they're concerned about what they put into it, what they can control, sort of a stoic mindset. And, and don't worry about the third way. you do what you need to do and whatever adulation, however it's received is what you cannot control. And whatever that outcome is, that's something that's for other people make a determination.
Starting point is 00:24:54 You sort of leave it at that without feeling, you know, I don't know. You find that space in life. Can you parallel that to politics? You can't please everybody. No, it's not possible. Well, look, I had a re-they try to recall me. So I've been on this for a while. I mean, I've been like, I've been at the tip of the spear of a lot of the animus, and I started to realize the nationalization of politics in a deeper way. I know people all talk about all politics is local. That's how I kind of grew up. That was my mantra. And a few years back, I started to recognize all politics is not local anymore. It's all national. And there's this weaponization of grievance, both parties. I'm not trying to be too partisan here. But when the RNC, the Republican Party nationally funded and started
Starting point is 00:25:35 to cede my recall in California, I'm like, whoa, what's this? And it was a different. level of energy. And I remember surviving that. And I was like literally, I was like a different guy. Once your mind is stretched, never goes back to its original form. And I just have a different consciousness about, you know, just around humility and grace and how fragile things are. You can't take anything for granted. How emotionally attached people are to their feelings, points of view, advocacy, ideology. And how how those feelings are being amplified and weaponized. through, you know, just surround sound media and social bubbles that we're all in and the filter bubbles as well that were in the algorithms. And so I did come off that just with a different sort
Starting point is 00:26:23 of level set in my own mind about, you know, whatever happens, happen, man, just put it out in the field. You got to, you know, and I'm just not going to dream of regretting and I'm not going to try to be someone I'm not. But can I ask, did it, did it, did it affect any of, did it, did it make you reflect on anything that you've done in your administration that made you think, like, I wonder, you know. Everything. Yeah. And was there anything that came out of that where you're like, maybe I should have handled
Starting point is 00:26:51 that differently? Always. But I mean, I'm a, I, every week I write out, I mean, literally, I've got stacks and stacks of paper. I do this little diary to myself, sort of my version of Marcus Aurelius Meditations, literally notes to myself of just reflections on the week and things I can do better. I plan on stealing them and publishing them sort of myself. Undiscused location along with my tequila.
Starting point is 00:27:19 You know, it's funny you say that because I always threaten my family. Like, I will take all the pictures that I have and sell them and I could become rich. You know what I mean? Oliver, I will be at that auction with you. There's definitely some of me that would make him, I'm sure. I'm just saying, yes, he had frosty tips as a youngster. Bye, bye, bye, whatever. The flock of seagulls were not overrated.
Starting point is 00:27:44 That's all I'm going to say. There might have been a perm. I don't know. I'm down with the flock. A perm would be great to see. Well, I'm just saying, that's how it has to be nice to me. That's kind of true. Anyway, no, I mean, you do reflect.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Come on. I mean, this is, you know, I say, it's a lot of humility in this. And, you know, during COVID, come on. I mean, reflect on all that all the time. In hindsight, we're all damn geniuses. But at the time, you go into it and you're just iterating, constantly iterating. I'm a guy's open argument, interested in evidence. I know people think I'm deeply ideological.
Starting point is 00:28:18 I'm not. And I really, I value critics and other points of view. And so, no, to Hillary's point around sort of a sensitivity, I'm deeply sensitive to the critique and to the critics because I do want to get better. I want to constantly learn. I want to evolve. And so, yeah, no, I mean, a lot of, a lot of all of this. I mean, society becomes how we behave. We are her behavior.
Starting point is 00:28:43 So everything that, you know, how we're sitting here, we sort of manifested it in our life, the good and the bad. We're not victims. Yeah. It's an interesting time for that because we're coming off of, we're coming off of this election. It was, you know, a sort of really interesting to see the way the country lean, you know. And I would think that the only way.
Starting point is 00:29:06 for the Democratic Party to really figure out what it is right now is to reflect. Yeah. Because it's not, something isn't resonating. And when you hear that, like when you hear all of that criticism, I always wonder, like, you know, what are, what are those things that you think? Like, you know, maybe this needs to change or maybe we haven't been communicating this clear enough. Like, what are the things that you think?
Starting point is 00:29:36 really affected this election. Well, I mean, look, there's, I was joking, I was with my colleagues, the Democratic Governors Association down in L.A. last week, we were hosting them. It was the first time 20 plus Democratic governors got together, and we were comparing notes asking ourselves that same question. And I joked afterwards with reporters. I said, I have nine pages. Each page contradicts the previous page with theories.
Starting point is 00:30:03 And I give you, I mean, we could talk about, you know, you know, transports. We can talk about wokeism more broadly defined, CRT, ESG, DEI. We could talk about a populism. We could talk sort of Bernie's analysis of working folks. We could talk about sort of elitism, coastal leaders, talk about all this stuff. Could talk about Kamala Harris in the context of she wasn't aggressive enough responding to those ads around surgeries and prisons and or she didn't have enough time or she should have done more Joe Rogan and more podcast broadly. And, you know, So there's a million theories, but I subscribe to the John Stewart theory, which is whatever the early theories are, throw them out. They're a bunch of bullshit.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Because what we tend to do is we tend to overanalyze without the benefit of time. And I think what we need to do, it will reveal itself what we did right and wrong. As long as, again, with this notion of humility and grace, that we are reflective and we do sort of service a deeper understanding. But I do think we can over-analyze. And what I tend to see with pundits on TV is they bring their pre-existing bias to the analysis of what happens. You know, like the moderate Dems will say, well, it's because we just need rural this, rural that, read this, read that. And the more progressive saying we just need more progressive, Medicaid for all, et cetera, and that was what was wrong. And there's truth to everything, I think, but I just think time will reveal itself.
Starting point is 00:31:32 in messaging and is all part of it. Incumbency is part of it. You know, just the inflation scars, the burdens of being an incumbent over the course the last number of years, and it attaches so much negativity that people just want to push back against it. Every election is a change election, and we really want to change this time. Clarity of conviction as it relates to communication, which, you know, Trump is just clear about what he says, or at least his thinking, you know, all of the above.
Starting point is 00:31:59 and so I have my own theories but I'm honestly I think they'll reveal themselves and Trump will reveal us as well as he reacts will react and the pathway out of this momentary abyss which is momentary in my mind will reveal itself
Starting point is 00:32:15 yeah it'll be really these next four years are going to be fascinating to see what happens I mean I think people overreact I mean it's like we're all fucking dead and I'm like this four years everything's gonna be fine I always say that at the end of the day with everything,
Starting point is 00:32:32 everything's going to be fine. It's nothing's going to, we're not going to explode. Well, I don't know. There's drones flying over Jersey. No one knows. We don't know what's going on. Just because the drones?
Starting point is 00:32:44 That's a different conversation. News break from, that's me. I'm controlling all those drones. Well, I mean, for me, I have a 20-year-old daughter and a 21-year-old daughter. I'm more afraid for them, right? So it isn't, we'll be fine in the next four years. It's what the consequences are, you know, later on and how that's going to impact them. And they're very emotional about it.
Starting point is 00:33:05 It's been really interesting conversations with that age range. But I think to your point, it's going to engage them in a different way that we haven't seen, at least in our family, in the Democratic Party. So I'm really excited for them because they care in a way that they've never cared before. And the key is to care and not give up. I mean, the only way this becomes the abyss in a hundred year. of darkness is that people give up, people that give a damn give up. And I just remind you, I remember I got elected mayor in 2004, and I was, you know, a few weeks into my administration, I started marrying, sane sex couples, 4,000, 36 couples from
Starting point is 00:33:45 46 states, six countries. And it was, it became a big election issue. And this was the Bush-Carrie election. And we lost that election. I remember after that election, people thought the Democratic Party was toast. We lost the election in 2004. We lost both the House and the Senate, and people were quite literally writing
Starting point is 00:34:06 the obituary of the Democratic Party. And there was a best-selling book that we all needed to go to Applebee's, because Applebee's America, understand the rural, real people, party was too elite, a lot of similar things. Think about this. Two years later, two years later,
Starting point is 00:34:21 not two, 20 years later, somebody named a Nancy Pelosi is the Speaker of the House. We take back both houses. And then four years later, Later, someone by the name of Barack Hussein Obama is President of the United States. That happened in a very short period of time after people were writing the obituary of the Democratic Party. So I think, again, we could be prone to a little hyperbole.
Starting point is 00:34:41 But to your point, Kate, it is credibly important that we not fall prey to stubbornness and act like we're all that. And we have to be deeply, deeply self-critical and address. I was going to bring that up earlier about my brother. That's when I knew what a different policy. he was going to be and not really a politician is a little over a month into it he decides to legalize same-sex marriage my father was taken aback my husband filmed him for what almost two years and created a documentary and in that documentary he talks about how um i don't need this job i don't i i i can go back to my business my day-to-day life i'm doing this because i believe that i can
Starting point is 00:35:23 make a change and i can represent my constituents and do right by the state of california and that's what knew that he was going to be okay, that he set a different tone, that this wasn't a politician, this was a human being that was going to really focus on making, you know, the state to the extent that he could, a better place. Why are you being so nice? I have no idea. You know what? These two love each other.
Starting point is 00:35:48 I figure we could probably try and show each other. We should go back because I do want. Yeah, we're, we want to, we want to understand. Yeah, like, how was your birth? was it. Well, first of all, where was you guys? Well, I was there for it. Let me tell you. I missed, I missed him. It was very dark. It was early in the morning, very dark. Yeah. So, you know, as if no one knows anything about you, how many siblings are there? Is it just the two of you or are there more? Just the two of us. And I'm obviously much younger, 14 months. Yep, 14 months younger. And we had parents that loved each other, spent, you know, 30, 40 months. together. I got divorced. Yeah, kind of, she was my teenage damn mom.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Who the hell married is a teenager? And then knocks her up, excuse my language. Oh, what? And she's got two kids divorced, comes from no money and just is working two, three jobs all our life. And he kind of takes off, but not in a negative way, just he couldn't handle it way, came back in our lives later. And a lovely Irish Catholic.
Starting point is 00:36:56 In an Irish Catholic way. Yes. Oh, son. Nice to see you. Right. That was the affection, right? Just kind of like early on. We developed a really strong relationship.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Yeah, Catholics do it a little differently. Yeah, they tell you. Yeah. They go on Inside Edition. Our father. Our father was like Tia, and then we saw him on Larry King. Right. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:37:21 You look great. He looks good. I mean. Ouch. Jesus. Okay. We got nothing. No wonder you started this damn thing.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Where were you raised? San Francisco is where we were born. We're fifth generation or six. We argue about that. I think we're just fifth. Wow. And my mom quickly moved to Marin and we had borders in the house. Creepy people sometimes that like played guitar naked.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Wait a minute. Five or six generations. So were you, did you have family like the Barbary Coast? No, my dad used to. joke, he said, our great, great, great grandfather was an Irish cop in San Francisco. And he said he didn't know what came first, San Francisco or the Irish cop. And so, yeah, the beginning. Kate and I almost put, we were really close to. I know, it's still great. There's a book called The Barbary Coast and just the sort of the birth of San Francisco with Sam Brandon coming over,
Starting point is 00:38:22 the gold rush, the lawlessness, you know. Oh, the brothels. The brothels, the ducks. How international, you know, I mean. Just, it burned down about six times. Seven times. It's just an incredible story on the birth of San Francisco. Amen, man. From a small fishing village to, you know, the discovery of gold.
Starting point is 00:38:43 And, you know, and then it's, you know, it's always been a city of dreamers, doers, entrepreneurs, innovators. And it's interesting, you know, I look back, you look at so much of the xenophobia that's defined today emanated out of San Francisco as well. It has a darker past. The Chinese Exclusion Act came out of the Bay Area, San Francisco and Oakland. You know, there's this guy, the original Donald Trump, if anyone wanted to know, if Donald Trump is interesting and new, he's not.
Starting point is 00:39:07 He's completely derivative of these populists in the past. There was this guy, Dennis Kearney, who ran the Working Man's Party, a guy from Ireland, and he began and ended every speech in the late 1880s. And by saying, whatever else must, whatever else happens, the Chinese must go. And the sort of anti-Chinese rhetoric, anti-immigrant rhetoric, anti-establishment rhetoric, anti-press rhetoric was dominant at the time. And it caused so familiar today. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure.
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Starting point is 00:44:30 Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kristen Davis, and I want to know, are you a Charlotte. In 1997, my life was forever changed when I took on the role of Charlotte York on a new HBO show called Sex and the City. As we watched Carrie, Samantha, Miranda, and Charlotte navigate relationships in New York City, the show helped push once unacceptable conversation topics out of the shadows and altered the narrative around women and sex. We all saw ourselves in them as they searched for fulfillment in life, sex, and friendships. Now, I want to connect with
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Starting point is 00:45:57 Like five or six I was, and he's a year older. It was quick, but the relationship was complicated. It was complicated because we never quite knew because we sort of vacationed together and we spent holidays together and they didn't, neither ever remarried and we never, there were a couple serious relationships in there for each of them, which was hard on the other. And it was a really lifetime friendship. Our mom died at 55. And I've never been more excited for my birthday, which is Christmas Eve, and I'll be 56. He made it over the hump, but I'm like, I can't wait to get over the hump. Never been more excited to tell someone my age.
Starting point is 00:46:32 But yeah, so she, you know, they really forged a really strong friendship and a lot of respect throughout the years. But it was confusing because we had the mom that worked at three jobs, you know, the waitress, the secretary, the assistant buyer, the bookkeeper trying to get a job in real estate while my dad took us on vacations on safari and beautiful yachts and private helicopter rides. So it was a very... Not because he could afford it, but he had close friends that his best friends could. And we came home and we were, you know, very clear that that's not something we boasted about. It's not something we shared. It's something we enjoyed and we could process with each other. And that was that. And then we moved on to what was real in our lives.
Starting point is 00:47:12 What was your relationship like, you know, just growing up from that age and as you guys got older? Was it tight? I was, I was like his agent. I was like his agent. You know, he destroyed the backyard and did a mini golf course and I promoted it in the neighborhood. And we made a few bucks. He started getting into Rocky and drinking raw eggs. I think that's what's got him a little screw loose up there.
Starting point is 00:47:38 But running up and down the hills and come back. Better than raw milk right now. Yeah, blah, yeah. And he had boxing matches and I would sell tickets. Bird flu, just a little bit of consumer alert right now. Do pasteurized milk for the moment, please. But I will say Gavin was bullied, genuinely bullied. I don't think the kids know the word.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Deservingly, that hasn't really changed. Well, it was the haircut? You were actually bullied the haircut. Yeah. It was the haircut. It was like a whole bowl. This whole gel thing came out of desperation, man. I was like the Dutch boy with the little thing.
Starting point is 00:48:12 And then I discovered Dippity-Doo, like amazing. It takes my life. But these bullies, literally, I would come home. I was still at French American in San Francisco, and he was in school in Marin. And I'd run around the neighborhood looking for him when I got back from school. And they said, look, he's hanging from his underwear on one of the fences. And I believe them and would start running around looking on all the fences for my brother. But he was probably hiding behind a tree.
Starting point is 00:48:36 That's a guess. But no BS. One of the coolest things my mom did, she worked for A. to adoption of special kids that of all family, kids with intellectual and physical disabilities and this notion of empathy and care, compassion that was so ingrained for us as kids. And here she has a single mom with no real training and capacity resources to raise two kids on her own. But she was hustling and making it work and always, you know, and just never complained, never explained away anything. It was just grit, hard work determination. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:10 when you're getting bullied and you watch your mom working with people that are traditionally bullied, I swear to you, man, that's like indelible in terms of my why, why I'm doing this, why we did gay marriage, why I was so honored to be there the other day to help this woman feel it's going to be okay, you know, even though threats of deportation. And it literally explains, you know, my career path, which started with Hillary. We, you know, I started in business entrepreneurialism, started out of college, open a wine store with one part-time person, Pat Kelly, we grew it to 20-ish businesses. And as we were growing the businesses, restaurants, hotels, and wineries, I couldn't do it all and stole Hillary, who was working for what, Donna
Starting point is 00:49:54 Karen and Armani in having time of your life in Milan. Oh, fun. And I said, I need your help because I started getting into politics, and I couldn't do both things. Hillary, what did you do in fashion. I started off in San Francisco at Banana Republic Corporate and then I moved to Italy and I worked for Georgia Armani directly three days a week. I was in fittings with him for all his new Emporee Armani collections. And then when I left there, I went to Donna Karen and then back to Armani Exchange in New York. And then I realized that working seven days a week, 12 hours a day and eating all my meals at a desk was not my jam. So I moved home actually and I was fixing to go back in the in that industry, Levi's are banana, and Gavin's like, no, you're coming to Plumchack.
Starting point is 00:50:41 And I said, okay, I'll give you six months. And it's been 27 years. So apparently, yeah, 27 years in October. I know. So I started when I was, yeah, 18, yeah. Here's a watch. Yeah, here's a legit. On behalf of Plumchack, we're proud of your 25th. So watch. No, thanks. Watch, watch. Wow. That's a long time. Yeah, she came. I remember hiring her for marketing. I was like, I need a market. We got this little new hotel up in Tahoe and we got to market, you know. And I remember him asking me, I said, I don't know how to do marketing. And he said, have you stayed in a hotel before? Have you traveled before? I'm like, yes, yes,
Starting point is 00:51:14 yes. He goes, then you know what you're doing. And I got the bug and I've never looked back, never look back. And what do you do for the business? I'm the co-president. I'm one of the ones of Brunswick, yeah. I run it with a co-president, my, or my cousin, Jeremy, but basically I'm the all of the, like marketing, operations. If you've enjoyed your experience, that's right so yeah we've got we've got a big portfolio and what's your favorite part of the business what's the what's part of like which part of the portfolio do you love the two things my favorite part of what i do is my team i am all about them they're my constituents i've got we've got 300 plus employees and i do everything i can to make sure that their experience working for us is
Starting point is 00:52:02 amazing and fun and not taking too seriously because at the end of the day, we're not heart surgeons, but that we want to deliver on an experience. So that, to me, is my favorite part. And my favorite business is our plump jack in in Tahoe because our parents met up there when my mom was 19 and my dad was 32. She was a lifeguard. An appropriate father. Yeah. And our grandfather owned the master lease after the 1960 Olympics. So my mom was up there and my dad became smitten.
Starting point is 00:52:32 And then I, my husband, Jeff and I got married up there. And so for me, it's super personal. And I was just up there a couple days ago. So, but all of them have my heart. It just, it's the people. And so long as I treat them with respect and love, then they treat our guests with respect and love. And that's what I find joy in with my work.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Amazing. And our wine is really, really good. So is our food. Yeah. The four wineries now, which is crazy. And a vineyard. and an independent avenue, too. It's interesting, you know, I left her complete disaster
Starting point is 00:53:05 when I took off to run for mayor. I had just created a failure award for the company. So the person who screwed up the most, I gave him a big bonus. Yeah, he always won it. It's weird. No, but I'm like, I'm like a big, you know, back to just, you know, it's decisions,
Starting point is 00:53:20 not conditions that determine our fate and future. You know, I'm not a, I just, I'm not, I've never had this sort of victim mindset. And I really feel like, you know, we've got to empower ourselves to change. changed perception and conditions. But one of the things at the hotel, she just reminded me at this hotel,
Starting point is 00:53:36 it's an old 1960s in, was built for the delegates in the 1960s Olympics, and it doesn't have centralized air conditioning. So in the summer, gets really hot up in Tahoe. So we've got to keep the doors open, some of the windows open.
Starting point is 00:53:47 We got a lot of mosquitoes coming in. And I got a call late at night from our engineer, this guy, Ludo, and he rarely ever called. And like, what the hell is going on, Ludo? He's like, it's a disaster. I'm like, Jesus, Ludo. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:54:00 And he goes, it couldn't even breathe. I'm like, brother, just calm down. There's no, it was a boiler. What happened? Fire? He's like, no, it was not a fire. I said, a flood. He's not a flood.
Starting point is 00:54:09 It's that son of a bitch. I said, so who's what? What are he talking about? Ludo. He's like, the front desk guy. I said, who you're talking about? Eric. And I'm like, Eric, what did he do?
Starting point is 00:54:20 He goes, that's an idiot. You know, he went out. You can't even make this up. I said, just tell me what's going on. He goes, he apparently went out and he bought a bunch of catfish. I said catfish he goes yeah he bought some catfish and he said he put it in the ponds
Starting point is 00:54:34 next to the hotel I said what the hell was he doing he goes the idiot wanted to deal with all the mosquitoes I said why would he says oh because they would eat the larva of the thing I said that's a great idea
Starting point is 00:54:47 what's the problem he goes well fucking raccoons I said what raccoons he goes to the raccoons that brought all the catfish in the hotel there's bones everywhere there's eyes there's fins the whole place smells like fish this guy needs to be fired he's an idiot and i was laughing and i'm like man this guy eric i got to meet him this is amazing that crazy night clerk person
Starting point is 00:55:11 and i literally we created the failure word i gave him five hundred dollar bonus because he at least tried to solve a problem yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it was eric won that award a lot well well well bringing bringing that around right i mean you try at least you tried to solve a problem And, you know, you fuck up. I mean, that exists in your world on daily, right? I mean, daily. I hate people. It's not my job description.
Starting point is 00:55:39 It's not my responsibility. You know, that's, there's nothing, I seriously, just, and that's what I wanted to distill in the company. And she changed it to magical. It was actually smart. Failure word in magical moments. Just sort of paint a more proactive, positive picture. Words matter. Words matter.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Everybody's a winner. Not everyone's a winner. That's an issue for me. Your participation trophy. Not into that. Yay, fourth place. All right. I draw the line at seventh.
Starting point is 00:56:15 If my kids got seventh place, I said, now you have to throw those ribbons out. But I can get to seven. The company business is fun, man. Being an entrepreneur is the best and trying to have an entrepreneur mindset and the work we do. And government is a big part of what I've tried to do for decades. And, you know, I wrote a crazy book a decade ago about government as a platform, many people where they are, more choice, more voice. I sort of framed government as a vending machine where you put in taxes and you get police, fire, healthcare education. And if you don't like what you get, you kick the machine, you shake it.
Starting point is 00:56:53 And how we can look at government more as a traditional platform. where we're big on what, small on how, meaning we create a framework where we have to solve big problems, but we're less prescriptive on how we deliver them. And anyway, I totally read the book. The book did not do well. No, I mean, I just zoned out. I know. I was going to say, I plan on reading the book as soon as you to get.
Starting point is 00:57:21 If you and Oliver read it, I'm all in. wait if one of you can do the book on tape the audio i'm i'm gonna totally listen to it on one of my drives but making it's making sense in the air you just you just gave us a synopsis here's it here here here's my biggest issue just politically just generally how come no one can admit when they fuck up they just can't do it i mean i honestly i don't follow politics enough to watch it all i honestly don't know how you deal with your failures as far as publicly goes, but no one can admit when they fuck up. It's like, I was watching Kamala do her thing. It's like, hey, guess what? You know what? We tried at the border in the beginning. We fucked up. But we're going to,
Starting point is 00:58:05 we tried to remedy it. And look, we're doing our best. And here where we are. And here where we are now. Why can't anyone just say, yeah, I fucked up. I'm sorry. Well, I will say that early in his career, I really made a point of holding him accountable when he fucked up. I'm sorry, but it was an important. I was going to ask you that, like, do you do that? You know, is that I, because I would do that if Oliver was, which, God, I hope it would never happen. I was governor of California. You know, Oliver. There's an opening in two years. I've got homeless all over my street. It's too expensive. Business, climate, you best. I feel like I'd be all over him. Yeah. Oh, for sure. I mean, there's a lot of things that happen in particular in the early days because he didn't have anyone else to hold him accountable, right? My mom had just passed. You know, the public. Well, the, yeah, but you know, a lot of politicians to, that was my
Starting point is 00:58:59 earlier point, would spin it and spin it until they got caught. And we just really talked all the time. I'm like to stand there and say, I'm sorry. We have a few major incidents where I trust me, brother, had no, I mean, I had all the, I didn't have a problem, but it was hard to do acknowledging big, big mistakes. And that's happened many times in my life. When you were able to do it publicly, that you were able to say, you know what, here I am. I've grown up in this.
Starting point is 00:59:28 I mean, like, you guys grow up in, you know, your world. And it's much, I mean, I, God bless you. At least I have some, you know, I have a geo fence around consciousness of my existence. You don't. It's more global. But it's, you know, I grew up in this. I was like really growing up. You know, I was married and divorced in this business.
Starting point is 00:59:48 You know, it's like, and I did things that, you know, you can't do when you're mayor, but you could do if you weren't. And I just didn't, I wasn't mature enough to understand that. And then there were just stupid things that I did because I was stupid. And when, and my, my, the importance for me was. We're all stupid. Yeah. And the importance for me is to make sure that he knew that I, I stood by his side.
Starting point is 01:00:12 I remember there was one moment and he had to talk to his team. He goes, I don't want you in the room. I said, well, I'm not leaving. And that's kind of how. it's been like he always knows that there's someone there's now he has an amazing wife and family that have his back too but he always has known that i've had his back was interesting and by the way that's despite the fact and oliver i heard you talking about this on one of your many podcasts about how all she wanted was your attention when you were younger about my brother would literally
Starting point is 01:00:38 hand me a dollar on the playground we only overlap for one year in school when i was in seventh and he was in eighth he'd give me a dollar to leave him alone so this is despite that I still have back. You imagine how much you would cost today? Oh, God. Well, Kate would be negotiating. Like, no. She'd get her lawyer on the phone at the age of six and be like,
Starting point is 01:01:00 her crypto account. Right. She'd be like, sorry. It's not enough. I'm right here at your door until you speak to my lawyer. Yes, I like the door hanging. I don't think we had, I didn't have a door. I slept in the hallway.
Starting point is 01:01:14 She did. We literally, like we said, I mean, there's a sort of perception that we're some trust fund kids and quite the contrary literally Hillary we had to carve we I guess you know it was an a frame it was literally a frame in the hallway and we cut the side of the wall and there was like some extra room and literally it was her bed yeah so there's no I just walked by it every night into my red room he literally would make ghost sounds and scary noises so I was like 106 Baltimore away I remember that right he still still does that We moved.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Ollie. Yeah. Over. Over, Hudson. It's too good. I don't know if anybody remembers that's what I called Oliver when I was alive. Over. I know.
Starting point is 01:01:56 You know, it's so funny is Bo-Dy used to call, and Rio used to call Wilder Wadu. So now I call Wilder Wadu. Wadu. I still miss that's so cute. I know. Cueder is cuter than Over. Wadu and Over. Maybe that's like a children's book we could write.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Sibling Revelry, their siblings called Wadu and Over. Wadu and Over is cute. Boom. We just made, we just probably made two million bucks right there. Oh, please. It's all, you're just hustling. Seven, seven million? We're getting this backwards. Okay, sorry. No, that was so great.
Starting point is 01:02:34 It was so amazing that we're going to do a two-parter. Yeah, we're going on two parts. So you need to tune in for the second. And it's also just like, it's so interesting. And like, we've got to interview more political people. I know I'm going to say this a million times. I know, I know. I know, I know. Are you going to have a little cocktail, holiday cocktail, today, right now? No, no, no, no. We're actually doing the, we have do many Christmas.
Starting point is 01:02:56 So we get the tree. We do the lights. It's on Saturday. So we all go to Target. Everyone gets $20 to spend on each other. And then we get fun little gifts. And then we open them up and play Christmas music and drink whiskey. Why can't I do that? Why aren't I invited to that? Because it's only this, this nucleus of this family it doesn't extend to the others i'm going to do and i'm going to do my own and i'm going to give them 50 dollars no i know no actually i'm going to get 10 dollars oh yeah you a last i'm like fine i'll go 50 cents dad why do i only have a quarter everyone just gets each other a quarter that's a big fun idea i'm going to do that with the kids this do it it's the best it's the best and you know the kids are all separate they're over now yeah like they all doing their own thing it's the it's four
Starting point is 01:03:59 hours at the house christmas music everyone's around the tree and it's fun everyone's together and it's just the best and they can't leave and they can't leave and they can't invite friends no no no it's just the family that's it's me aaron and the three kids and how come i didn't know about this i've been doing it for years i have no idea i don't know i just don't advertise all of the cool things that i do makes me so a little weird but okay that sounds fun well i learned something new about you and i'm in a you know okay do it do it do if you do it on saturday night we can face time that's allowed well maybe we can all do it together this year like marty short you're like jimini what's his glit what's his glitter jimiclin i'll tell me about your thing
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