Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - I Approve This Message with Governor Newsom (Part 2)

Episode Date: December 30, 2024

In Part 2 with Governor Newsom and his sister Hilary, Kate and Oliver talk about how they grew up in a divided household, politically speaking. Plus, find out how Hilary keeps her brother in check and how she really feels about the next four years.  And, why is Governor Newsom so optimistic about what lies ahead as he governs the Golden State?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That's good. Welcome back to part two of God. Governor Gavin Newsom and his wonderful sister, Hillary Newsom. I wonder, like, if you remember Hillary any times where you, like, specifically had to have, like, a little tough love with Gavin, if you would. Oh, yeah. I think some of those conversations that we talked about earlier when he was younger and newly in politics and finding his personal way. We also, you know, lost our mom in a really traumatic, you know, heartbreaking way. and instead of engaging, he retreated, and that was really devastating.

And I had to be the bigger person to, you know, slap them around a little and say, come back to me, come back to her. So there's definitely been a lot of that exchange, but there's just been nothing but respect and having each other's back. You know, my brother's writing a book, if I'm allowed to say. Yeah, no, I mean, which I heard about that. I know a politician, a book. Yeah, and it's not about politics.

politics, but it was kind of triggering for me because I realized, like, they're, you know, and I was triggering for me because I was like, wait, this is my book too on some level because there's so much overlap because we were, you know, Gavin and Hillary. Like, we didn't have other siblings. So just to your point, I mean, I talk about all the big screw-ups. I talk about how I handle them badly or well. Talk about our history. Even I had forgotten my name because my dad's at William.

There's like a bunch of Bill Newsom's like forever and ever. And I was named after some guy named Gavin Maxwell who wrote a book about river otters. And, of course, it made sense because we had a river otter. That was our first pet, was an otter. Wow. People have like hamsters. We had an otter. That's like, that was my dad.

Oh, weird. A big environmentalist and a fabulous man. He was big in a mountain lions. Like, everything about him was environmental advocacy, which is a big part of my life, not surprisingly. But anyway, so yeah, this sort of book kind of, it just, you know, it explains. And I love in the process, I mean, you guys have. anytime you write and sort of reflect, it allows you to understand at a deeper level,

the why and who and the how. And anyway, but it was, yeah, for her, it was traumatizing. Yeah, because it feels like I'm writing a book, but I don't want to write a book. Yeah, telling stories. She's like, that's no one's business. But it needs to be, you know. How do you think your trauma with your mother

and just within your life has informed sort of who you are and your politics and the way that you've gone about governing? I mean, does that play a part into it? It was, and, you know, we, it's in the book. It's in the book, right. We talk about it. Hillary and I, we were with her till her last, she insisted suicide.

And back before, Becannon with you, before it was legal. And I had the privilege of being governor when we made it legal. I think it was lieutenant governor governor. And so I remember that as a moment that was very personal, that debate, because we had that experience. But we were also there for her last breath. and I don't wish that on anybody. I wasn't. I actually, he might not remember, but I left the room.

Yeah, she ran out. I left the room because I had been with my mom for the four days before and hadn't left her side because she asked me to because she didn't want any hospice scenario. And she was holding a picture of us and she said, you're my works of art. And that was it. That was, I was done. I was done. And my mom looked at the doctor and said, how long is this going to take my poor kids?

And that's when I just went into the other room and it was. You know, my dad and my husband and our best, my dad and mom's best friends. And it was really an aunt and uncle. It was horrible. But you skate and I kept saying leave, leave. And he's like, I can't. Yeah. Oh, my gosh.

But those moments shaped, you know, we were brief time of foster family. And so I care about foster issues. My dad and environmental care about environmental issues. You said all these things you didn't even realize until you really start to go back. And you're like, oh, man, that's why I care so much about best buddies in Special Olympics. I was like, I forgot mom was a development director. As I said, for aid to adoption of special kids. And so all of that connects or she, you know, or she struggled.

I mean, she like struggle. Like, we talk paycheck to paycheck. I mean, that was our life. Like, literally our life. And hard work and grit and having to work at janitorial jobs. And, I mean, everything we ever had, we had to work for. But that also shapes my life and my consciousness around, you know, just hard work and grit and being accountable. And then I, you know, similarly, as he's following one path, you know, my husband, Jeff and I did, similarly, we started a foundation for cancer research and education and helping break the cycle of poverty. So that was our way of showing our contribution and honoring my mom and Jeff's mom, who's a breast cancer survivor. But that was, so we both kind of engaged in the way that we knew how and the way we knew we could be effective. And, you know, I think I'm really proud of how we both gone down that path to honor her.

and to just be good citizens, right? Yeah, tried. So two years left, right? Governor? Two years. Well, the last recall attempt failed, so it looks like potentially two. So thank you. Because I wasn't sure they were going to try again.

I'm just saying. So what do you want to achieve in these next two years? What is your biggest focus? I call it the great implementation. It's about now delivering on all the things we've been promoting and promising. And, you know, the biggest, I mean, the obvious, biggest issue in this state is what's happened on the streets and sidewalks and what's happening in the cabinets. And I want to see accountability.

I want to drive accountability. State's vision is realized locally. As a former mayor, it's a responsibility of local government to address what's happening on the streets and sidewalks. And the state has provided unprecedented resources. Now I want to see results. We're going to drive that hard. We're driving on how.

housing reforms and affordability and addressing the issues of nimbism. I've been very aggressive on the issues of crime and addressing the issue of expansion of health care in first state in the country, the universal health care. We've expanded by almost 140,000 child care slots. We've got a working family's agenda I'll put up against any in the country as it relates to earn income tax credit and what we're doing to help families with child tax credits and these new college savings accounts. We start with every kindergartner gets up, some get up to $1,500. every single kindergartner in California in a career and college savings account. We've created a brand new grade, TK for All.

We're fully implementing it this year. We've got after school. Arnold Schwarzenair talked about it. We delivered it, $5 billion, fully implementing after school for all and summer school for all. We're going to get that done this year. And so on all these issues and making sure we continue to dominate in low-carbon green growth, changing the way we produce and consume energy and all this green energy transition,

maintain our dominance in innovation and quantum and immunology and the work we're doing, obviously, in AI and how we're leading the nation and entrepreneurial and innovation, entrepreneurial energy and innovation, all those things are a big part of it. And then just soberly, yeah, Trump, what's that going to factor in? And how do I protect our diverse communities? How do I protect a state that's the most diverse in the country, 27% of our population's foreign-born? How do I have their backs? I don't have the backs of mixed status families.

that are scared how about backs of farm workers how do I have backs of people that want to come here from around the world because they want to contribute immigrants I wonder I wonder how you reach that just because you know I mean what wasn't it over 40 percent of californians voted republican yeah and that big was that the most it's been in a minute it was marginally higher but look I mean California is a big red state and it has some uh uh uh dense, blue areas. I mean, first of all, California is the size of 21 state populations combined. We have more hunting jobs in California than any other state in America.

More manufacturing jobs. We have more farming jobs. We have more ranching jobs. We have more timber jobs. People wouldn't necessarily connect California in that respect. I mean, obviously, we're dominant nag and then same time birthplace of biotech and life science and nanotechnology and the like. So we're both and Silicon Valley at Central Valley, you know, the Redwood Coast to the southern border. And so we're America, but only more so.

And that includes lots and lots of Republicans. We're a Republican state, dominantly Republican state. There was a Republican governor not too many years ago, Arnold Schwarzenegger. And it's ironic. You know, you think about where Trump's going to come and, again, forgive getting political, but it's interesting. He's coming after all our environmental laws. And those go back to Ronald Reagan when he was governor of California that led with the Air Resources Board. Richard Nixon created, Richard Nixon started the EPA, did the Clean Air Act.

They're trying to vandalize a half century of leadership that was bipartisan, is my point. So I don't see things through blue and red lenses. I've spent a ton of time in the last six years in rural California. Heck, I mean, I was in Kern County, Fresno. I was just up in Colusa County. that was just my that was my calendar this last week all conservative parts of the state i care about people i don't care who you voted for and and uh and we've got a lot of work to do to try to distill a sense of well-being because not everyone believes that and i'm just going to make really good wine

for the next year exactly i'm looking i'll send us some i'm hoping i got a little Christmas gift i got your back i got you back i have i have i have one political i have one law question because, again, I am so not political. I just, it bothers me. The hypocrisy. The hypocrisy of both parties, the way that they speak out of it. I can't, I just can't do it. Let me just address her. The reason why this is we grew up very, like our whole big family is very political, politically all over the place. Yeah. I just feel like everyone's full of shit. So we sort of grew up like in the middle you know we're like yeah and then we're like I don't even want to talk about it anymore yeah and I when I do it's just like well how are you saying that when you just did that

I don't know it just but but anyway my aside from all that the one law that I honestly want more clarity on is this is this transgender in school law yeah about how you know now there's there's not a requirement to sort of tell the parents can you just explain right from kindergarten right for just a little deeper i'm just it confuses me a little bit does that take the parents out of the equation let me take this oh yeah my spokesperson so it's it's pretty simple there were there were a couple of school districts uh we have about a thousand and fifty school districts in california which shows you to how large the state is independently elected school districts and a couple of them uh mandated that if a teacher oversees a kid talking about their sexuality

and it's not a transition. Their sexuality, broadly defined. Got it. Got it. That if they overhear, you know, Bobby talking to Johnny and saying, Johnny, I really like you. This is really awkward for me. You know, I really like girls or something. That they would be fired.

This was the law they passed. They'd be fired if they didn't tell the parent. And it occurred to me. I said, why is that the teacher's job to be required or be fired to talk about someone's sexuality or something they're overhearing that has nothing to do. do fundamentally with the academic mission. And so we just said this. The law that I signed is pretty simple. It says you can't legally fire someone, but you also cannot deny that a teacher wants

to say something to Johnny's parents. He can. She can. So we're not saying a teacher can't say something. Got it. We're just saying you can't be fired if you're not going to be a snitch 24-7. Right. And being out there on the schoolyard, listening to everyone's conversation about their feelings about whether or not they're, you know, they're coming out of the closet, which, you know, is a real life thing for a lot of people. But it was painted as a transition. Right. That's what I'm saying.

Like, you take something like, that's why I'm asking for clarity because. I think that sounds kind of gray. What's that? I'm confused. Well, no, I'm just a little bit confused. So what you're saying is, is that the teacher isn't required to say something about the... Since I'm going to be governor, let me explain it to you, Kate. Okay.

Listen to me. It used to be... the teacher would be fired if they, the, that was the law. They didn't snitch. In a few districts, not in the state, the state did not have this law, quite the contrary. It was, first of all, it's not a major issue. This is like, this is, we're coloring in the issue. I can give you 100 issues that are more pressing for kids.

Right. But this was colored in as a massive issue because it's a culture issue. And there were a couple school boards that said, we're going to fire teachers that don't, that don't run and tell the parents. And we said, well, let the teachers decide what's in the best interest. Let the parents engage teachers. But I don't think you should fire a teacher because they heard what they heard on the playground about sexuality. I was under the, I was under the impression that the law is that if a child does go to the school or to the teacher, that the teacher is not required to discuss that with the parent, that they can keep that from the child.

They can keep it from the parents. Yeah, but it's, but it's a direct engagement. It's an indirect engagement. It's about how they're feeling about all this stuff. And we're just saying you won't be fired if you choose not to engage the parents in that. And there were some districts said, you'll be fired. Meaning they're mandating it. Mandating disclosure for every conversation, which we just felt went too far. And it was scapegoating kids that are going through lived experiences. And a lot of those kids come out and the teachers. and friends in school and they start to to sort of reconcile their sexuality. So it's the teacher's discretion, basically. Yeah, completely. And that, but I mean, we could turn teachers into snitches on a lot of issues. I could turn, let's mandate they be fired on 10 other issues as well. Or you could fill in the blank.

So I just- Well, you know what? Honestly, dude, like forget about, forget about, you know, orientation, sexual orientation. How many stories have we heard about bullying that has not been addressed by the teachers or the or the schools, and then a kid ends up killing him or herself. And that's the point. And this is why I was so aggressive on the don't say gay bill that DeSantis did. That's why I did debates with DeSantis on Fox. Why I started going on Fox is the demonization, the scapegoating of teachers and librarians

firing them because they're allowing a kid to check out the wrong book, censoring speech in the classroom, also in the boardroom with these gag rules. But the don't say gay bill, in the 19. 70s, Governor Reagan came out against a version of the Don't Say Gay Bill. Reagan came out and defended when they tried to scapego teachers in the Briggs initiative. And they said they'd fire teachers. It's very reminiscent because the teachers were themselves gay. And gay people can't teach our kids because they're quote-unquote predators.

So I just, there's a lot of history in the state on this. Don't you think identity? Okay, well, yeah, we could talk about this. hour. But I mean, yeah, we're getting into identity. We should grab a bottle of plum check when we do. But hold on. It isn't everything identity politics? Because everyone's identifying with that, with what's true to them. I don't know.

I think identity politics is that space. Religion, race, sexuality. Like, we all have an identity that we vote on, essentially, or an idea that we vote on. So isn't it all identity politics? Yeah, I mean, for me, look, I heard Obama. right after he gave his first public remarks after the shalacking we took in the election. And he talked about pluralism. And it's a word I use all the time.

I don't hear politicians use the word pluralism. And I was like so excited. And I say about California, we practice pluralism, active engagement and diversity. See, it's a point of pride for me. It's a point of strength. It's not a point of weakness. The greatness of California is reflected in the diverse voices, the ability to get first-round draft choices,

the best and the brightest from around the world because they feel included. I remember when I was mayor in 2004, when we did the same-sex marriage, I joked, but I wasn't joking. I said, this is an economic development strategy. And people went, what? You mean, oh, yeah, people are going to Tiffany's for rings.

I said, no, it's about people feeling heard, cared for, that I'm saying as mayor, we have your back. Just because you love someone differently means we believe in you. want you to feel included in our city, and we want the best people to come here. And to me, that was about creating a culture that's not only inviting, but enlivening. And that's where it's in that sort of, it's in that space. And pluralism is just about the active engagement of our differences. It's about reconciling around the things that bind us together. And I just

think it makes, it's what makes California great. It's what's made us great. It's making this nation great. And I just, I hate, I hate bullies. I hate people talking down to people. I've got a trans godson. And I just don't like people demeaning. All these people want to do is survive. They want to just live. They want to live. And the way they've been used as pawns by these political parties to get a vote,

it really breaks my heart. That said, look, I'm not naive. And I've got young kids and I get a parent that is obviously going to be upset as someone has an unfair advantage in a sport. Those are more complex and difficult issues. But I just don't like the gay community, always being on the receiving end of hate and homophobia. And I just feel like, boy, this is, you know, I've been an advocate for years and years and years, and I'll always be. And I just not going to turn my back on vulnerable people.

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well i have one more question have you ever had a panic attack or do you have anxiety i mean like do you have any like mental issues with all with all the pressure like do you are you on like i'm on lexapro like are you i mean like if i'm on lexapro you must be on like i don't even know what you're i want that pill and limitless i want that thing yeah exactly oh that tell i mean do you have stress obviously you do but like how many panic attacks have you you had in your life. Do I have any panic? No. No, you know what he does? He's, he's big into exercise. So I think that's what you get on the peloton or gets in the, what's the sauna or, you know, the cold plunge now. Yeah, I felt prey to. That's, that's how he wears it. No Hoffman Institute yet,

but he's been able to do. I went fully out. I went to hopping. I know. Okay. No force between internexion. And I only wish we had had time to talk about our fanatic for Christmas, but we'll do that another time. Oh, shit. I know. Well, we're only leaving because you guys have to bail, I guess. But like, is it, are you, are you as crazy as we are? We're so crazy. Crazy. We're crazy. We're crazy. We don't have snow in, you know, in Marin County, but there's reindeer hoofs on our roof that my husband, Jeff. And there's, you know, carrot remnants. And we've got Santa coming down, you know, the videos, all that. Our kids were, you know, 17. before they stop believing my best friend's like yeah if you don't tell them I will because

they're going to get beat up but yeah yeah yeah yeah it's legit we have a whole I'm going to send you photos you'll see but I I loved your stories um okay let's do let's do a quick rapid fire and then we'll yeah okay okay who's more competitive way more competitive way like not even wait what are your astrological signs Capricorn do you Do you know yours? What do you think about it? I don't even think he knows his. Hold on.

He's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, you're a Sagittarius. No, Libra. Libra. Libra. Libra. I was going to say Libra. 10.10. Yes, Libra.

Libra. Interesting time for Libras in these next couple years. I'm serious. I don't either. I don't either. I'm a Virgo, but apparently my charts is a more Libra than Virgo. I have no idea. That's good, man.

I appreciate you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, with Kindred, yeah. Who got in more trouble as kids? Absolutely. Absolutely. Jesus, this is over two.

Okay, actually, if I'm being honest, neither of us did. We're mostly good. Yeah, my mom worked all the time. So how do you get in trouble? Yeah, kind of rain with our little latchkey kids with our, you know, just macaroni and cheese every night. Yeah, he came up and played basketball in the backyard with all his buddies every night. I had a best friend who, you know, whose mom was never around. so the trouble my mom never knew about.

And, you know, after I became governor, we commuted her six years. Not all the books anymore. Which parent, like, if like in our family, sometimes we're like, okay, who are the kids most like in terms of the parents? Like, who in your parents of your mom or dad are you most like? This is such a long story that we don't have time for,

but my brother was told by my mom, our whole childhood. Gavin's just like me. Hillary's just like Bill. And my father is a gregarious, intelligent, intellectual, beloved man. So I think my, and my mom would say, I'm shy and have no friends. And he had dyslexia. So we had a lot of stuff. I was legitimately, I'm still a shy guy, which, I mean, like, which is ironic.

But the interesting thing is he heard that and said, I'm not going to own that. And he really didn't. And now he's the orator and the intellect. and, you know, it's really fascinating how he, I watched him hear her and I could tell that he was feeling like, no, don't, don't label me. So anyhow, I'm still. What about your first celebrity crush? Like when you were little.

Oh, who's your? Oh, yeah, who is yours? Well, I had to be one of the Hardy Boys. Hardy Boys. Hardie boys. It's not even real. That's a some name book or something. They're fake.

No, not the Hardy Boys. Who are the guys that had the TV show that looked like the. hearty boys oh jesus i make it back to you okay mark hamlin or some i don't know you love you love you love that uh guy with uh you know in your eyes oh god john cusack that's a good one say anything say anything oh my god look i'm sorry you met him you didn't invite me i spent like five days with elon too he doesn't invite me to anything oh yeah it was that has a I get a stalker. I get an invite.

I'm going to guess Gavin's is probably like Rebecca D. Mornay. I want to hear. Who? What's your name? The brunette from Phoebe Kate's. No, man, no. From Charlie's Angels back in the day. Kate, what's your name?

Jacqueline Smith. No, the other one. Kate, Capshaw. No, Kate. The other one. Or three. Yeah. Who's the other one?

I thought he was going to say Goldie Hawn. I thought he was going to say Goldie Hawn. And I could easily said Kurt Russell, but I thought that would make you super uncomfortable. No. Yeah, that'd be a little awkward. No, we're very open. What is it?

What's her, the third, the third angel. Kate Smith. It's Kate something. Yes. What's wrong with you? No respect for. I don't know. Don't we have Google?

Yeah. Kate Jackson. That's it. Yes. I didn't even have to. Kate Jackson. I was about to go in. Kate Jackson.

Kate, ask the final. Ask the final questions. Final question is, this is for both of you, two-parter. What is the one thing that you admire the most about your sibling that would be something that you would love to emulate,

that you had more of? And then the other part of that question is, what is the thing? that you wish you could alleviate so that they could have a calmer sense of self or you would think would be more, you know, optimal for them. Well, I'll quickly take that. I think Hillary implied it.

I mean, she's taken up the vast majority of the burden of our parents both passing and the impact that's had on our kids and just our lives generally. And just from just even the technical logistics associated, but also the emotional side of it and being there for both our parents in an emotional way and a consistent way throughout their struggles and ultimately their lives. And so that I always admired, and that's also what I admire most about Hillary is there's

a deep empathy and care and compassion and a commitment to other people. She wasn't, when she says that, I know I was thinking people just roll their eyes. oh, yeah, I care. Our most important asset is our people when Hillary said that about the company, but it's like no bullshit with her. It's like her obsession. But it's like our friends and her family, even when she's got a lousy brother that's just too focused on his election or something, she still gives a damn. And when you screw up, it's like you fucking asshole, you get your shit together and out of your back. And or when you think everything's going great, she goes, you ain't all that. You know, I saw you, you little piece of shit.

shit. That's good. She puts you in check. Yeah. So, you know, so I think, you know, both those are, you know, different size of the same coin. I think, I think it's a rap. I would say that if I, what I would like to lessen the burden is the hate. It just, it breaks my heart, the hate because I know, and everybody, it's so interesting because I have several Republican friends that said, if Gavin's anything like you, then I'm going to like him. And I just want people to know him,

because to know him is to respect him and to like him, whether you like his politics or not. And so that's really been something that it breaks my heart for him, for his kids, for his wife, and just knowing who he is authentically and where he comes from, and that breaks my heart that the world can't be a kind or gentler place. And I feel like there's a, you know,

a few years ago, we unleashed a lot of hate, and I wish we could put everything back in a little box. But that I would take away from him if I could. And what I admire most about him is his work ethic. I, you know, you asked who was more competitive. I told you that I only take away the seventh place ribbon. So as you can imagine, the competition's not my jam. And I do, like you, Oliver, I really like to be loved authentically. And I try really hard to be such a good person in order to achieve that. But for me, Gavin's relentless. He is studious. He is, he does not take shortcuts. And that's really, really hard. And that's exhausting. And that's a humongous sacrifice. And I am not always willing to make the sacrifice in the same way he does. And I'm so proud of him

for that. And that's, I think my parents weren't that way. They were real incredible people and empaths and philanthropists, et cetera. But, and my mom, worked hard because she had to. He does it because he wants to and to make a difference. And that I admire the most about him. And his evolution as a father, that I didn't see coming. Oh, it's the best. Oh, great. That's awesome. That's amazing. I mean, that's my number one priority. It's so true. It's like intention matters so much. I mean, not in politics anymore because if you don't, if you don't go one way and you're not part of that crew, you're fucking hated now, which is so intense. You know, it's like the intentions are to make everything great or to do the best for the people that's

the intention now if you don't agree with the way that I'm doing it okay that's okay you don't agree with it but now it's like fuck you I mean it's yeah it's that it's just crazy I mean it's Kate Kate is just like fuck you all the time it's it's you know diplomacy goes a long way. And like, you know, there's something that, yeah, I guess we do miss that sort of healthy debate. We grew up, Kurt, loved to do healthy debates. And so he would give us a side, even if we didn't agree. Oh, nice. And he'd say, okay, you're, you know, this is who you're going to be today, Kate. And, you know, Boston, this is who you're going to be. And then we'd have these big debates, even if we didn't agree, just to understand what it is to, like, actually be able to

debate something and talk about it and then still love each other. Well, we've gone, we've gone completely, we've gone completely away from what this whole experiment was supposed to be, which is two parties, different ideas coming together for a solution, you know, where you can debate and scream at each other and then Adams and Jefferson, you know, our homies, you know, they'll go have cocktails if they had cocktails back. then but they'd mead they went had meed um you know or or in Washington they debate in the aisles and yell at each other and go have whiskeys and there was a there was a moment and it just seems to be gone it feels like it's never going to come back it's what it feels like anyway but um forget

about this for a second i want real quick then we're out your podcast with fucking marshawn lynch who i'm a huge football fan so beast mode a beast mode i mean give us a give us a uh give us a thing on podcast Well, it's a natural pairing, you know. Yeah, I mean, Governor. How do you know Marsh? How do you know Marsh on that? Like an obvious thing. So I'm surprised you even asked, brother.

But that's cool. He's it all. So our co-anchor, so to speak, on the podcast, this guy, Doug Hendrickson, is one of my oldest friends. And Doug's been his agent forever. And so I've been, you know, steeped in all things NFL, it seems, for 20 years. And I've been spending a lot of time. in NFL camps and getting to know a lot of players.

And one of those special guys was Marchand and started as supervisor and mayor working with him on his foundation in Oakland. I'm like, damn, this guy's the real deal. And a bunch of inner city kids and always having their back. And he was surprised I kept coming back as mayor and I wasn't just some dude in a suit, you know.

And just, you know, because he's not a trustworthy guy necessarily. He's trustworthy. He doesn't have trust. Yeah, man, when he, you know, then he's like, no one will have your back, like he'll have your back when you break through. And so we were BSing about everything and everything you just said, man, where we want to put a crowbar in the spokes, the wheel of everybody else. Everyone's pissed off, zero-sum game.

I'll get mine, scarcity mindset. And we're like, man, enough of this. And can we talk, can we not talk about politics, but can we politic? And can we just like bullshit? it. And can we have conversations that everybody else is happening, but not through such a sort of extreme ideological lens and just sort of see where it goes. So we've been having fun, man, and just crazy, different weird guests and traditional guests. And it's your guess is as good as mine where the hell it's going to go. But politic has been a lot of fun. Well, I'm throwing my hat in the

ring. I want to come on. I want to meet. You know you're a damn fan. You can ask me anything, too. I'll say I'll talk secrets about my entire family. So you're going to bring all those photos, man. We don't want you spending Christmas around. You don't know. He won't. I'll be the one. Oliver will do all the bad things and somehow I won't be invited to Christmas.

Okay. That's right. True. We need to unpack that. Next time. Well, I thank you so much. It's been an honor, Governor Hillary. Thank you for coming out.

Yeah, guys. It's been awesome. And Gavin, get my number if you want advice or if you need direction. I know you're lining up to be the 40. What number am I, 40th? You're like, whatever, man. Before you'll be the 41st governor. Yeah.

Yeah. No, I mean, if you wake up and then the night and you're like, oh, shit, what do I do about this? You know, there's a homeless, whatever. Just call me. You figure it out. Yeah, you got to figure out. Jesus. God help us all.

man he calls me first but he'll call you now problem solvers right here yeah you haven't been solving every problem like this yeah yeah I need you well we love you both thank you for this opportunity we appreciate you that was awesome happy holidays

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Oh my God. I mean, I want, you know what I kept thinking when I was listening? I remember watching Gavin, I'm terrible, Governor, Governor, Governor Newsom. I think he's okay with Gavin. I know, but I feel weird saying Gavin's. Every time I say, I'm like, Governor, Gavin, Gavin, Governor. Dude, I'm like, what's up, G-Shark? The opposite. I have like no respect. No, no, here's my thing. I feel like it's, we're actually kind of perfect people to talk about politics. Because we don't, we're not really very, like, political, politically, I mean, look, we have our points of view, obviously, like, everybody who cares about your community.

You know, we have our own personal points of view. But to actually speak to someone, you know, with, especially with a sibling, which is very interesting. Yeah. Yeah. But you see a different dynamic with them when they're, when they're with their sibling. she's amazing like you can almost tell that like she is sort of the roots there's a foundation to her that you know it keeps him accountable in a strange way or she's shepherded him in a strange you know what i mean like she's sweet well she's strong she's strong you can tell

she's strong i want to be friends with them so they're so fun so i i feel like the the point of politicians is we probably would want to be friends with all of them. Yes. Or else they wouldn't get into politics. You know, it was probably a great fucking time? Donald Trump. I'm sure Trump is, we'd have so much fun. You know, forget about his politics and forget about like whatever.

Like, if we were like, you know, hanging out, it'd probably be fun. I mean, I, look, I kind of like everybody, you know, so I can have fun anywhere. Yeah, me too. I can too. Yeah, listen. Like the, the, the, the, the UFC had a blast. Yeah, of course. You know, I said energy because I was like, I, I wasn't, I, it was a lot of fun because

a lot of people I knew there. I love UFC. I was like, oh, no, no, you know, they look like, I saw them across the way. I'm like, they look like they're having a great time. It's human, they're human beings. Like, you know, I, I don't know. But wait, wait, I want to, hold on. I want to say something.

What I, I didn't ask him, which was really interesting. I remember watching. Remember when, you know, this was before, we didn't know what was going to happen with Biden. But Governor Newsom, it sort of looked like he was kicking off to be what would have been the next candidate, Democratic candidate. And he did a debate on Hannity with Governor DeSantis. DeSantis, yeah. I didn't watch it. And I forgot to ask him.

I remember watching it and thinking, I think Sean Hannity really likes. governors. Like, I felt like, because he was talking about, you know, you sort of bipartisan, you know, being able to move across the aisle and really get things done. And I remember watching Sean Hannity with him. And I felt like they actually had a really nice rapport. I was like, I thought they're friends. And I wanted to ask him. Yeah, I know. That would have been a good question. And I, because I do think there is there are some people who are able to do that where it's not like it doesn't have to turn into some big

kind of heated polarizing hate fest that they actually can have healthy debate and that I felt like those I mean that debate was really interesting yeah I mean I didn't watch it I should go read watch it yeah yeah I mean you know whatever side you're on it doesn't matter whoever won the debate doesn't matter. But when you look at like the vice presidential debate this year

with Vance and Waltz, it was like a cordial debate. Yeah. Where they let each other speak and they kind of praised each other on certain things. And, you know, I don't care where you stand on the spectrum of politics. Yeah, it was actually very nice. It was nice to watch. Yeah, I was like, oh, this is so nice.

But then everyone was like, our ratings are down. Dude, you're not wrong. You're not wrong. You know? I mean. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I mean, they're great.

You can see this, the love and the history and the depth of their relationship between the two of them, number one. And then, again, politics aside, like, he's a great guy. And it feels like, you know, a politician is a politician, right? But it does feel like that he does actually fucking care and he's putting his shit out there. And whether you like it or not, you know, okay, that's your opinion, but don't hate. Can I see? Why hate? You know what?

Yeah, the hate thing is. You know, is California and dead and you don't like this. No, but look, our brains are predisposed to go negative. We have negative bias. It's what we're, you know, we have to fight that, you know. But maybe, you know, I know, there's like the Rogans who, you know, have certain people on and then call her daddy as Kamala what if you just do interview everybody yeah i want to do that i want to get parker carlson on here is that possible yeah come on i want to like i want to like

talk to everybody we'll talk to brett brett bear he'll definitely go i'll talk to brett bear you should get brett brett i'd love to talk to Tucker carlson because i've seen Tucker's probably fun as shit i mean is he is he insane sometimes and the things that he says in my opinion yeah you know but does he sometimes say it because it's it's good ratings i don't know i don't even want to have a public opinion i just want to have i just want to ask questions yeah like you know who cares about my opinion i just want to i just want to know one gives a shit about what we think honestly who cares i want to know what they think you know i don't even want to sway anything you know i just wanted i just want i just want to ask the questions that it seems everybody's asking

you know like we should get Elon Musk on here yeah sure I'll talk to I'll do I'll talk to anyone I'm like AOC I'm sure if at AOC she seems to be a big can't people are talking about her maybe being the next uh democratic candidate yeah we're like a policy now we're a political show you know you should call it we should call it politicking Anyway, that was fun. That was a blast. I love you. Fun to talk, fun hanging with you, of course.

I know. I'm done with my movie. I know. It's good. I'm finished. I'm sad, but I'm back. Now it's Christmas time. All right.

I love you. We need to get on and do a solo podcast of just you and I talking about how we're prepping for the family dynamic. Why don't we do a Christmas prep? No, I know. I mean, even on our thread, I was like, yeah, like, can't wait for the fights. Everyone's like, it's going to be so fun. We've never had more family together at one time.

And I'm like, oh, my God, really, guys? Like, holy shit. Who's going to break up this Christmas? No, I know. Oh, gosh. I don't know what to do. I told Danny, we're going in like this. Every morning the mantra is we're going to have the best day.

We're going to have so much fun. we're not responsible for anybody but our kids and there's going to be a million questions and we might not have all the answers or what if you did it reversed what if you wake up in the morning and just get it all out like i fucking hate you you're never fucking air you didn't pick up the fucking kids and then it's like okay your turn and then you and then it's like all right we're done it's 8 a.m and we did it and that rest of the day's going to be good i'm not so sure it would last 20 minutes. That's like, that would it be a half, half day.

Totally half day. Everyone's like, where's Kate and Danny? They're still getting it out. It's supposed to be a 10 minute thing. That's funny. That's funny. That's, that's what, mom and I have complaining lunches. Did I ever tell you this?

No. We go to lunch and I'm like, mom, here's what we're going to We're going to have a complaining lunch and we're just going to complain the whole time. And so what happens is as we start out and like 10 minutes in, it's over. That's a great idea. I love that. Yeah. It's like, especially with like, you know, you know, like, let's just complain.

That's not going in with it. You know, we should all, you know, it would be good. You know, like the warming hut down, you know, by the pond down there, right? Yeah. You actually have to walk outside. You cannot fight unless you get's the fight shed. Like you have to go in there to fight. So if there's any even raised voices in the house, it's like, sorry, pop, mom or whoever, like,

you're going to the fight shed. Like, you're not doing it in here. Fight shed. The fight shed is so funny. I love a fight shed. And we'll put like little alcohols and whiskeys in like a little air. So it's nice. Well, like it really cozy.

Really cozy. So they get in. They're like, oh, this is. I love the fight shed. Well, our parents aren't going to listen to this, but, you know, there is going to be a new. Yeah, excited about that. This is going to be, I mean, maybe we'll bleep that out so that it doesn't have picked up. Yeah, yeah, that's probably a good idea.

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