Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - It's All in the Genes...with Kimberly Williams Paisley & Ashley Williams

Episode Date: May 26, 2025

It's not easy for two sisters to star in some of the most ICONIC roles in pop culture history, but these siblings did just that!  How I Met Your Mother actress Ashley Williams, and Father of the ...Bride star Kimberly Williams Paisley join Kate and Oliver in a star-studded edition of Sibling Revelry. Plus, JUST WAIT until you hear how the "Father of the Bride" movie led Kimberly down the aisle in real life!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an IHeart podcast. September is a great time to travel, especially because it's my birthday in September, especially internationally. Because in the past, we've stayed in some pretty awesome Airbnbs in Europe. Did we've one in France, we've one in Greece,
Starting point is 00:00:15 we've actually won in Italy a couple of years ago. Anyway, it just made our trip feel extra special. So if you're heading out this month, consider hosting your home on Airbnb with the co-host feature you can hire someone local to help manage everything. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians, artists, and activists to bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. The Moment is a space for the conversations we've been having us father and daughter for years. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos
Starting point is 00:00:58 on the IHeart Radio app, podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Introducing IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. It grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like in the right hands.
Starting point is 00:01:24 You're just not. Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story. Does anyone know what show they've come to see?
Starting point is 00:01:50 It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Please state your first and last name. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling revelry. No, no.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Sibling reverie. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling reverie. That's good. No, no. Oliver. I'm right. I just had.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I don't, you're not okay. I had a little eggs this morning. and I felt nauseous but I went on a run and I almost threw up and then I had a pitch meeting and then I just had egg salad on a piece of toast and I think I feel okay, pretty good.
Starting point is 00:03:38 It's a lot of eggs. Yeah, well, you know what they say? No, I don't. Well, let me tell you, an egg a day means that your cholesterol gets really high. Yeah, and you're getting.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Oh, yeah, no, I'm okay. Cabo took it out of me. I know. You know, you were worried about a lot of things. I will say that I think that this, yes, I did imbide, but I think this was food. Hold on. Mom is calling. She's worried about you.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Hold on. No, she's not. She's so worried about you. Hey, honey. Mommy, we're podcasting. Oh, okay. Mom, just for the sake of all of our listeners, are you worried? about your son, your firstborn.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Oh. No, she's not. I told you. No, no. No, she said, oh, yeah. Oh, no. Well, actually, I'm, you know, worried about everybody. That's my problem.
Starting point is 00:04:39 She should worry more about my career than my health. Is her a mother ever shop-free? No. No, she's not worried about you. She just loves you is what she's really saying. I do. I love you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Yes. Okay. Bye. See you later. Goodbye. Okay. Bye. Bye.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Where are you going? To see, uh, just to get, see an early screening of song sung blue. Oh, that's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:06 And mom wants to come. So she's going to come. Yeah. And Paul's going to come too. Oh, good. Yeah. I'm nervous. I always get nervous before I see.
Starting point is 00:05:15 I know. I'm sure it'll be awesome. I'm excited and nervous and it'll be fun. It'll be great. Um, okay. Let's get. Let's get into it because we've got a waiting room.
Starting point is 00:05:26 The gorgeous, beautiful, kind, sweet movie wife of yours at one point. Kimberly Williams. You forgot talented. He'sley and Ashley. Oh, yeah, very talented. And Ashley Williams, her sissy in our waiting room and our Zoom room. Should we open up the door? We haven't done that.
Starting point is 00:05:46 We haven't opened up the door in a long time. All right? Let's let them in. Ready? Go, Ollie. All right. Are you guys? Hi.
Starting point is 00:06:03 How are you guys? We're good. I'm good. Kate's good. We're not together right now. We should be. But I just got back from Cabo and I need some recovery. He's feeling a little bit lazy.
Starting point is 00:06:16 He went off the wagon. He'd been sober for a whole month. And then his and then he was. getting, you know, geared up to go to Cabo for a golf weekend. I didn't fall off the wagon, though. I leapt off the wagon. Yeah. Actually, Ash and I
Starting point is 00:06:34 were just talking about that because I was listening to your brother's Osborne podcast where you were like bragging that you were off or on the wagon for 10 days or something. I was wondering if it's stuck and now we know. Oliver was, I got a picture at like 8.30 in the morning
Starting point is 00:06:49 and I was like, this is just bad. And I said, I called Joe Buck, who he was with and i was like joe don't do this to my brother no i know he's like it's too late he goes your sister just called me and said you need to look after him and joe he gave it about 38 seconds of trying to look after me i'm like joe dude come we're okay i'm okay i'm okay i'll survive he's okay he survived we're back now where are you where are you guys are you both in nashville or are you separate we're separate too i'm sad I'm in Nashville and Ash is in L.A.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Oh, wait, where are you from originally? New York. Oh, you're New Yorkers. Born and raised New York. Yeah. In the city? No, in New York, but it's not. You know what I always say is I was born in Yonkers, which is sort of true.
Starting point is 00:07:41 It was called Bronkers, which is like just north. It was like Bronxville, Yonkers. It's just north of the Bronx, basically. And then we moved up to Westchester County. Well, Yonkers is in Westchester, isn't it? But it's not the nicest part of Westchester, but I'm proud of it. It's like the armpit of Westchester. It is, it is.
Starting point is 00:08:01 It's kind of nice to be in the armpit. And were you the, were you the only siblings or were there more? We have a middle brother, Jay, who's awesome. Oh, it's like the opposite of me. It's the opposite of me. But he's the boy, so it's like, so he has his own thing, which is good. Because I'm the middle of boys. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Well, Jay's sandwich between. these two like actresses how annoying is that for jay so he became a firefighter and like became a hero and then he got tired of that and now he's a beekeeper so he's like got his zen on and he's amazing he's so cool but he doesn't get to do fun things like this enough where does he live bees that's fucking cool it's really cool he lives in tennessee he lives five minutes down the road so i actually should have invited him over that would have been is he going to be on the asshole yeah that was really great right now you could we could have been all three of you because it's easy if it's a boy and two girls because then you can like decipher if it's three girls it's hard because you can't really tell who's talking yeah and how close are you guys like what is the what is the age difference of everybody we're seven years apart and um and then jays the middle child um and ash i've always been obsessed with we've always been really, really close.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Like when my parents brought Ashley home from the hospital, my first thought was that she smelled bad, but that I got over it. I still smell bad. Yeah. I mean, that just comes with Ashley. How was that age difference growing up? And, you know, when did you actually sort of get close or were you always close? Do you want to talk about what I did to you?
Starting point is 00:09:48 Oh, my God. Yes. So, my, Leah, you're totally right, Ali. like everything that you need to know about me is just I'm the third born so my entire ethos in life is like can I play what you guys want to play can I come am I coming it's either can I play or are you mad at me yeah directions yeah I was like I was just obsessed with my sister um growing up I just wanted to like be her like it we and like making it weird you know and but Kim came up with this genius game
Starting point is 00:10:28 which was called fetch Kim do you want to tell them the rules of that? Yeah I mean it's like the game that we're all familiar with but we lived in this three story house on a hill so I had a tennis ball and I was like feeling independent and I adored Ashley but she really wanted a lot of attention so I came up with this game where if I took the tennis ball
Starting point is 00:10:52 and I threw it out of my third-story window. It would fly out of the house and down the hill. And I just turned to Ash and I'd go, fetch. And it bought me like a good 15 minutes sometimes. And she loved it. Oh, my God. That is amazing. That is funny.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Did your parents know about this? Yeah. They suppose it was the 70s. They were like, yeah. that sounds fun they're like cool man like that's so like progressive they're being so independent and then there was the time ash that um i was walking you in the stroller and again we were up on a hill on this like steep road and my dad remembers looking out the window and i ashley was like i'm taking her for a walk and there she is in the stroller and i got distracted and let go over the
Starting point is 00:11:47 stroller and my father watched the stroller just rolling down the road to another there was another road and it was terrifying and she could have done oh no oh no she did not the strait it was fine look at her she's fine she's fine she's still here oh my god that would be so oh my god that would i would die i would die of a heart attack if that was oh my god the stroller just tipped over I think, right, Ash? Do you remember that? Strollers' fault. Lame was a store.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Cheap thing. Do you feel like Jay? Since being sort of smack dab in the middle of both of you, was he sort of like off in his own world and you guys, you were like babying the baby? Our brother. Yeah. Honestly, like what Kim said earlier is really true, which is like we were really loud. And I think Jay was always trying to negotiate his own space.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Like, you know, where does he fit? It's a middle kid thing, I think. Uh-huh. Relevant, you know, he's like a little caught. But I remember being, like, really jealous of you guys, Kim. Because every time, like, you were talking, I'd be like, what are they talking about? Why, you know, that was hard.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Mm-hmm. It's hard with three. And how many years older is Jay from you? He's four years older than me. Yeah. Okay. Okay. you're younger than me.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Oh, so they spread them out pretty good. They did, yeah. It was, too. Yeah, there were two accidents there. Everyone was an accident. That's interesting. You might have been an accident, Kimmy. I was, I was an accident, and you were an accident.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Jay was totally planned. Oh, he was? That was my understanding. How did they tell you that? Oh, I mean, I knew too much. Again, it was the 70s. They told me way too much. That's a funny concept that all,
Starting point is 00:13:42 Kids were accidents. There's no problem telling them. What did your parents do? They were writers. So mom and dad were competing journalists. And when they got married, they moved to England. And they both got, they both had no money. And they were trying to like out scoop each other as journalists.
Starting point is 00:14:08 And actually, when they got back to New York, they were on competing newspapers. and like one of them worked the night shift and one worked the day shift and they were like stealing each other's stories and they'd write each other these long like journals about what their day or what their night was like it was really like sweet and romantic but they had no money and both sets of their parents
Starting point is 00:14:28 thought it would never work like they were concerned for their welfare and they started by going over to England and like pounding the payment there and then they had the accident which is me and that's when they decided to come back. Did they have the accident in London? Yes, I was conceived
Starting point is 00:14:46 in London. My dad, again, too much information gave me the address and one time I went and saw the place. I was like, me too. I was conceived in London too. You were? We were almost foolish. That's right. Were you in an actual bed? They didn't tell me that
Starting point is 00:15:02 part, thankfully. I think I was, I think I was Omaha, Nebraska in a bathroom. Oh, wow. That tracks. I was, I was like on Regents Park in like, you know, a canopy bed. Oh, that's so nice. It's a civilized.
Starting point is 00:15:21 I was in some dingy apartment. My parents were moving around so much that they didn't have an address for the checks they were hoping to receive, like, daily. So they had like an American Express box, like a mailbox or something, and they'd have to go check that because they were moving around apartments. They were kind of homeless a little bit. And Kim, your first. like a little bassinet was a drawer. It was, yeah, that works. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:45 In the drawer. Wow. Oh, they made a little cushion in the drawer. Yeah, that's why I like small spaces. That's smart, because they can just close the drawer and pretend like the accident didn't happen. Right. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. it's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure.
Starting point is 00:16:13 I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place will stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm character and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place. to land, a space that helps them feel like a local.
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Starting point is 00:17:07 I would be the first immigrant mayor. generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith, but there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in. To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. These new podcasts will be a to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present. IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care.
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Starting point is 00:18:55 My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer
Starting point is 00:19:06 walks into a comedy club. I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015,
Starting point is 00:19:26 a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get? get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club. A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a tape recorder statement.
Starting point is 00:19:57 The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike. This is in regards to the death of a Colleen Slimmer. And she just started going off on Eve and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row.
Starting point is 00:20:27 The state has asked for an execution date for Krista. We let people languish in prison for decades, raising questions about who we consider fundamentally unrestorable. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life,
Starting point is 00:20:52 on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. what kind of journalism was it like political or our dad actually has a politzer it was like yeah it was like yeah it was like revealing secrets and miss i don't know cam how do you he was he was covering the IRA yeah the war in ireland and um and the Pulitzer was for something else i think it was for like child labor laws or something and he was part of a team that won that award so yeah so he was more like investigative
Starting point is 00:21:39 journalism yes yeah yeah and cool and your mom similar it was less investigative but she was an amazing writer and then when we came along she went more into development so she actually helped
Starting point is 00:21:54 create these like fundraising programs at a college and then at Sloan Kettering Cancer Center, and then her last job was at the Michael J. Fox Foundation for Parkinson. So she kind of moved out of journalism, but they both started in journalism. So I'm assuming that your childhood was like education was important? Yes, very much. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:17 So I said that because it wasn't for our family. Yeah, well, you didn't need it to be. But wasn't important to you guys? That probably varies between us, don't you think, Ash? We had different parents. We have the same parents, but they were, they were very different. Well, it's funny because that's a question that we would probably get into and we talk about all the time, especially being a seven-year gap, but even if it's a two-year gap, two-and-a-half-year gap, our perspective on our parents are always a little bit different and they raise us a little bit differently. So where you think one thing, you know, Ashley might think another.
Starting point is 00:22:51 So specifically kind of how did it vary, you know? Yeah, it varied a lot because I was the firstborn. So with me, they were very meticulous. And to teach me the meaning of the word no, they decided that I wasn't going to be allowed to touch this coffee table. And it wasn't even that it was like a delicate coffee table. They were just like, oh, yes, we must teach her the meaning of the word no. And there were lots of rules. And I was very strict.
Starting point is 00:23:16 And then Ashley, by the time they got to you, I was like. I think we're also like really different people. And I think the parenting kind of adopted. I don't know, which came first. Who knows? Or they got tired. They were definitely different. weren't out by the time they got to me. And I definitely was way more of like a precocious crazy.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Like I was very, like I was always taking my clothes off and running around and screaming. It's so true. They was like, oh my God, with me. They were like, we need to like, they felt like they weren't saying no to you. And that's why they invented the rule about the coffee table. Right. It was like they were trying to keep me alive and trying to keep my diaper on. I remember, that's how you got in the most trouble. Yeah, you got in the most trouble when you were little.
Starting point is 00:24:07 I'd be like, Ashley's naked again. I remember you just always took your clothes off. It was a reliable laugh. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Some kids, like, yeah, oh, you're like. Yeah, Ronnie, Ronnie's really into mooning right now.
Starting point is 00:24:28 I'm for sure she learned this from her. uncle Oliver but like she's really into mooning yeah she's like moon's hot these days it's it's in i'm like ronnie you can't do that sweetheart she just loves it she loves it yeah i know some kids love to be naked yeah you know it's just a thing well feeling it feels better yeah it's definitely freeing it's definitely freeing i i i were you were you guys all good at school or was there you You were better at school than I was, Kim. Yeah, I was better at it. But we have different kinds of brains.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Yeah, I have ADHD. I think you guys do too, right? Didn't I read that? Oh, yeah. But yeah, so school was always just really confusing for me. Like, I always felt like I couldn't understand what question people were trying to ask me. And I still don't. And like three steps behind or a hundred.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I don't know. That's like me. When someone asked me a question in an interview, I start answering it. And then I start talking. And then I'm like, I don't, I don't, I'm no idea what you asked. I have no idea what I'm talking about. And then you're like, wait, how long was I out? Yeah, you're like, what am I talking about?
Starting point is 00:25:47 Right, right. And then I would like land the plane, Kate, land the plane. And she's like, I can't. We're circling. Kim was a lot more like metered, you know? Yeah, linear. Boring. A student.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Yeah. What got you into the arts? Like, when did you fall in love with performing? Well, when I was like five, I wanted to be an actor. Did you put on shows with me in the living room? Did we do that together? Yeah. So that's when I started.
Starting point is 00:26:25 And then we live next door to Anna Holbrook, who was a soap opera actress, and she, She was the first real actor that we ever met. And I was like, oh, my gosh, you can do this for a job. And she took my first head shots and really, like, she would take me to the soap. She worked on another world. And when I'd show up with her, it was like the happiest. I just loved being on a set. I thought it was so much fun.
Starting point is 00:26:50 And that was all I ever really wanted to do or write. But acting was the more fun option. Did you go to college? Yeah, I went to Northwestern. You did. Yeah. And then Ash started when you were, you started, we both started when we were really young, auditioning and acting.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Like specific deciding moment, Kim, which was when you booked that national dairy commercial. Yeah. My big break. Kim made more as in like basically an extra in this national dairy commercial than my parents had made in like the last 10 years. Yeah. My mom was like, you're all doing this. So we would. we would like pile into the Buick after school every day and like go in and go to like go sees
Starting point is 00:27:34 and you know the city was only like 35 minutes away so they would like we go we went I got agents and and we all started working yeah you were you were very successful oh you stop go ahead tell him no I wasn't please I was definitely not you did something she's talking about I think she might be talking about I got on as the world turns Is that we're talking about? Yeah, you were on a soap opera Like all during high school
Starting point is 00:28:04 All the high school is on a soap opera Yeah We were watching this new one That's a Tyler Perry soap opera Have you seen this? I love it they're like I like that they like brought it back They're like we're gonna go full fucking
Starting point is 00:28:18 Soap as you can get Yeah And it was fun I was like I missed the soap opera Yeah But so when you said that I got excited That must have been exciting there's nothing like the soaps you guys like it's the craziest most hilarious training you know like oh i'm
Starting point is 00:28:35 sure 25 pages a day and all the actors in new york who are on soaps were like juliar grads and they were on broadway and they were like you know and and so i was around them all day long and they were giving me advice and talk to me and saying like don't ever do drugs and you know helping me with memorizing lines and it was amazing It was so fun. Yeah, that's like a master class in learning lines. Oh, gosh. It must have been, yeah. But you guys, when I was in fifth grade, Kim was a freshman at Northwestern, and she booked Father of the Bride. I booked it when I was a sophomore, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Oh, really? That's when? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That was huge. Yeah, and also the weird thing. So I was 19, and I auditioned in Chicago and then got, had to fly out to L.A. twice for follow-up callback.
Starting point is 00:29:27 and a screen test and all this. And the whole time, I'm like, there's no way I'm getting this because that's just too big. And the weekend that I found out, Ash, you were visiting Northwestern and my mom and Jay and Ash were all visiting. And we went to see a show.
Starting point is 00:29:43 And that was at those before cell phones. So I was like running to pay phones to like check in with my agent because if we knew it was down to the wire, it was like me and one other person. And I checked in at the intermission of this show in Chicago and my agent told me I got it. We all were just like, what?
Starting point is 00:30:02 I was standing right next to you and I remember you go, shut up. And the mom and I like look at each other and we're like, what's happening? I was in fourth grade and we're in like the lobby of a hotel theater. Yeah, a theater, hi, a theater lobby. Right. Yeah. And she goes, shut up. And did we go back in for the rest of the play?
Starting point is 00:30:24 No, I don't think we saw the rest of the play because they said we need. you to get on a plane to LA tomorrow. Oh, wow. Yeah. And it was, it was so funny because they're like, you need to book your own ticket for the flight because it was like a Sunday or something. And they're like, make it first class and we'll reimburse you. My parents is probably like away. I've never flown first class. So I had to go back to my dorm room and pack up my dorm. And thank God you guys were there. I think God, you guys were there because it was so terrified. How old were you? Wait, was that it for you for college? No, I did go back, but I was 19.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I was a sophomore. I was 19, so I quit in the middle of the year and moved out to L.A. It was so terrifying. In the middle of, you had like a dance performance that you were in. I had to miss it. I know. I was stressed about my classes. You were an intense dance team, right?
Starting point is 00:31:17 And she was like, you were so big that the teacher was going to be mad at you. I still feel bad about that. Father. Father of the Bride was like, I mean, I think for me at my age, that movie was like, oh my God, it was everything. Imagine being 10 years old. Yeah. Your hero is the girl from Father of the Bride. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Like the person that you, that has cradled you. Like it was, it was like suddenly she was my idol, everybody suddenly she was everybody's idol. so weirded out. We were all so weirded out. Yeah. And everyone was telling me, like, don't change. Don't. Like, they all felt like they were going to lose me. Mm-hmm. We're coming back. And I remember you guys took me to the airport and we were all just sobbing. And you like pressed this. You had like this little saint. Do you remember you had this tiny little saint thing that you gave me, which is weird because neither one of us is very religious. What do you see? It became religious in that moment.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Like a St. Christopher? Yeah, it was like a saint. I don't know, like a traveling. I remember you gave it to me. Maybe it was Jay, but anyway, I just remember. It was you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You took my life. And I don't have it anymore, by the way. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Okay. Well, hold on. Going back even before the show, Ashley, when she left for college, I mean, was that devastating? Oh, my God. I was thinking about this yesterday because I was in fourth grade when she went to Northwestern. And I think, I was thinking about, like, a little, honestly, yesterday, I was like, why am I, like, so, like, I had, like, such a, you know, great family, great. child. I'm like, you know what it was? It was when Kim went to Northwestern. I got so
Starting point is 00:32:58 fucked up. It was gone. She was like my home base, you know? And I like, the day she left for college, I remember just sobbing. Like, I went to the pay phone and I'm, you know, I'm in fourth grade and I was just sobbing. I had to go to the nurse. I couldn't stop crying. I was in college today. I was a mess. The biggest sort of the first like traumas of my childhood. And Kimberly, you probably, did you even think about it? Nah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:29 So I feel that way about why it. Because with my younger brother, I'm like, I didn't even stink. But now that we're older, it was like devastating for him when we all left. Yeah. No, I definitely. I mean, it was hard for me, but I had so much to face and so many mountains to climb on my own that that's much more what I was focused on. But it's weird, guys, because now I'm about to send my oldest off to college. which is such a strange thing.
Starting point is 00:33:56 If you guys, you haven't done that, have you? Well, yeah, Kate's, okay. 21, Ryder's a junior. Oh, my gosh. So how did you survive? Well, I'm like 12 in comparison to like, you know, like I feel like we grew up together. So I think I'll feel differently with Ronnie,
Starting point is 00:34:15 my little one. But with Ryder, I was sort of like, yeah. I thought I was going to. to be much more emotional. I really wasn't. I was excited for him. And then there was just a moment with him when I was, and I've said this before on the show, but like, you know, when I was making a coffee in the morning and I realized that his energy wasn't in the space anymore. That's really what it is. Yeah. It just, I just bawled my eyes out at the coffee machine. Yeah. Because it was like totally. You have this routine. Like you have this little world.
Starting point is 00:34:54 that you've created for, you know, so many years. And then they're gone and they're not there every morning. And Ryder in particular is like, he's the goofy one. He's the one who's cracking jokes in the morning. And all of a sudden, the room is like much more serious. No, I know. But the energy thing is real because my kid's going to college next year and I'm sort of catastrophizing about what that's going to feel like passing his room and there's
Starting point is 00:35:21 just no one in there. It's not like he and we sit down and have incredible conversations as a teenager and he says, dad, how was your day? I mean, that shit doesn't happen. He's a fucking teenager, right? But his energy, just the presence alone is just devastating. It's devastating that that won't be there. September Olens feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects are just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of
Starting point is 00:36:06 Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm, character, and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone. Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything
Starting point is 00:36:30 from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest-ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians.
Starting point is 00:36:50 I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith, but there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in. To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective.
Starting point is 00:37:14 There's not a single day that Paola and I don't. don't call or text each other, sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We were getting a little bit older and it just kind of felt like the window. could be closing.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present. IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care. Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patience. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands
Starting point is 00:38:21 and then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted, the kind body story, starting September 19 on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Everyone say hello, Ed. Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear.
Starting point is 00:39:06 On 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a tape recorder statement. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike.
Starting point is 00:39:45 This is in regards to the death of a Colleen Slimmer. She started going off on Eve and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slimmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death. row. The state has asked for an execution date for Krista.
Starting point is 00:40:13 We let people languish in prison for decades, raising questions about who we consider fundamentally unrestorable. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How are you preparing for it? Is this next year?
Starting point is 00:40:52 It'll be in the fall. So, yeah, it's coming up. He's actually got to decide on where he's going in, like, 48 hours. Oh, my gosh. Did he get into the schools that he wanted to get into? For the most part, yeah. He's definitely, like, the choices he has he's very excited about and he's narrowed it down to three.
Starting point is 00:41:11 So I, you know, and it's actually a relief to me that I don't have to decide. He can, you know, he gets to decide, which is a great place to be. Are they close to home at all? He probably will not be. Oh. One of them is a little bit closer than the others. Yeah, but not really. I mean, it's not like I can drive there.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Still a flight away. My wife's like, what about like Santa Barbara? She's because what about UCLA? We live like three minutes from UCLA in a wilder. It's wilder. He's like, no way. He goes, I'm out of state. I'm going out of state.
Starting point is 00:41:43 And I'm like, yeah, that's what Huck said. And I respect that. That's what I did. But yeah, I mean, I feel like I've been preparing for the entire year and maybe last year or two. Maybe I've been preparing for this my whole life. I actually have this piece of scribble from a little piece of paper that note that Huck wrote me like when he was like nine that said, all badly misspelled. Come visit me in college, you promise. and he signed it
Starting point is 00:42:10 because that was like when I told him college was happening one day you know and I kept that and I'm gonna I'm gonna take him up on
Starting point is 00:42:18 I have to visit because I promised when he was like eight or nine it's so funny isn't it the cycle of like you know
Starting point is 00:42:25 life like I sometimes think about even just a hundred years ago how different it was kids left earlier
Starting point is 00:42:34 like and you know it's like now at least we get an extra probably four years before like 15 16 like kids are like wander out into the world which when you think about that is pretty wild and actually you have a couple kids right yeah I have two kids but you guys it's like my kids are um 7 and 10 and yeah good in the like oh my god I can't believe I have another 10 years right I'm like pretty tired you know I'm super
Starting point is 00:43:07 recite like right now they're at school and I'm like woo you know yeah it's just a different and I understand everybody's telling me like this like treasure these years it goes you know by so fast I know I know when it's gonna start going by fast because it's
Starting point is 00:43:23 when they're when they're leaving you're like holy fuck what happened and then the Apple memories that on the phone they don't help matters much you know where they're trying to create like nostalgia and they just create pain and devastation you just got to do what i did and spread them out over your entire adult life yeah because by the time what you know i could still have another one
Starting point is 00:43:50 if i want it's like by the time my one of them has having i'm a grandparent you know i'll still have like the last one in the house and then i'll have grandkids it's like you just got to spread them out that's perfect i bet you guys have the best family like Sunday dinner or like, you know, family reunions. It must be so fun in your family. It is pretty fun. We've actually been together a lot lately. Yeah, we have.
Starting point is 00:44:16 It's been actually really nice. And usually it's, it's, yeah, the fires in L.A. Really like brought it. Christmas and then the fires brought us all together. So we all live 10 minutes from each other anyway, you know. That's great. But there was something about it that kind of like made us. all go like, we need to spend as much time with each other as possible.
Starting point is 00:44:41 But you're right. Like last night, Oliver didn't come because he was too, you know, he's going to have a weak hangover. Kate, no, it was, I ate something bad. Sure. I did. But my mom and dad came over with Buddy, Wyatt and Maher's kid and Ronnie and then Rio came over.
Starting point is 00:45:02 And we have this sort of like, it's just fun. We have these like rotating houses of kids. And it's always one kid somewhere with another one of the families, you know. Well, the cousins are like best friends, too, you know. That's great. We have a lot of cousins, too. We have seven boys between the three siblings. And they're all like two years apart.
Starting point is 00:45:23 So mine is the oldest. And then it goes down to Leo, who's the youngest. So, yeah, they love getting together. And how long have you been married to Brad? Wait. Like 22 years. We can't keep track. the other day we couldn't figure out if it was 23 or 22.
Starting point is 00:45:39 The number goes up. And together were you together for longer? I mean, we're like 23. Not much longer. We were together for like a year and a half. And then we got married. And did he approach you at like some bar and be like, what's up, baby?
Starting point is 00:45:54 Like that? What's up, y'all? No, the story is actually about Father the Bride. He went and saw Father the Bride with his girlfriend at the time. and then it was like their movie and they saw it a bunch of times while they dated for like a couple years or whatever and then he moved to Nashville
Starting point is 00:46:12 and she broke his heart and he like wrote these amazing songs about it and and then had this idea when the Father of the Bride sequel came out that maybe he and this girl would have a sequel it was really kind of cute and romantic and maybe naive and so he went to the same theater
Starting point is 00:46:29 where they'd had their first date thinking if she thinks about it the way I'm thinking about it, she'll also show up to the sequel. And so he stayed, he saw the movie, she didn't show up, he left the movie, went out into the parking lot, and then was like, oh shit, was it the seven or was it the nine that we went to? I'm not sure. So he literally went back and bought a second ticket. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:46:51 He didn't stay for the second showing, but he did have the ticket and he looked for her. She didn't come. And then he wound up going home and writing, like, great songs. And the ticket stub for Father of the Bride, too, is in his album, for Part 2, which was his second album. That's a great story. Yeah. Did he go to Father the opening of Father by 2 just hoping she would randomly
Starting point is 00:47:13 fucking show up? Or did he invite her? It was, no, he didn't even tell her about it. But it was December 28th, which was the date of their first date. So it was like a date that they had talked about. It was his mom's birthday, coincidentally. So that's how he remembered it. And it was something that they had always known was like their first date date.
Starting point is 00:47:31 And he just thought, well, if she was, she's because I guess she'd been trying to get back together with him. And he thought, well, if she's thinking along the same lines, if she's romantic like I am, then she'll come. So she didn't, lucky for me or not, I don't know. So he went and he wrote all these, like, amazing songs from it and, like, his career launched after that. And then, like, seven years later, he woke up with this idea, like, oh, I should call that girl who was in Father of the Bride. And, like, that's the story he goes with. I'm like, maybe he was stalking me somehow.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And you just got a random cold call? Like, hey. I got a cold call. Yeah. And I had just told my agents that I wanted to do a music video. I was interested in doing a music video because I'd never done one. I thought it'd be fun to be like a Robert Plant girl or something. I wasn't expecting a country music video, but he literally called like a few days later. And I was like, yeah, that sounds fun. So that was kind of his pickup line. Wow. So you were in his video. Slick, yeah. Well, it was literally a pickup line because by the time, Like, we'd already been dating for like two months. And I was like, whatever happened to that video, you said, you wanted me to do. And so I finally did do a video with him, but it took some time.
Starting point is 00:48:43 That's a good story. That's so cute. It's a cute story. So he really deep down was always attracted to you, even though it sort of projected into the girl that he saw the movie with. It really was you all along. I don't know. I guess. You have to ask him.
Starting point is 00:48:59 and now and now three kids later 22 years we have two kids uh jay has three yeah we have two j has three and ash has two oh okay okay and are you and and boy and girl or two boys i have two boys we all have boys seven boys oh there's not one girl no isn't that weird that's wild i know well my my partner comes from three boys so it's Fujikawa there's three brothers and he had a girl his brother had two girls and his brother right now is having a girl there's no boys oh my god we need to hook them up they need to meet up i know exactly actually actually is your husband in the business yeah my husband's a producer is he yeah okay so he gets the life he does yeah i mean it's also i think it's you know we have like a rule that nobody can work out of town
Starting point is 00:49:57 during the school year. Right. I've been, you know, I've been leaving a little bit more during the school year and I think he's annoyed, understandably so, because he seems to be always the one in charge of the kids. But you're kicking ass, you're doing so well. That's
Starting point is 00:50:13 why you have to keep leaving town. Yeah. Feel bad. Tell him what you're doing. What are you doing right now? Oh my gosh. Thanks for asking. Well, you know, I do these movies, these hallmark Christmas movies. movies. So fun. Um, so I'm, uh, I just got back from, um, Spain and I was just doing a Oh, fine. Yeah. And now I'm going to go actually, um, to, to shoot another one in the French
Starting point is 00:50:41 Alps. They're like sending me a, oh my God. That's awesome. Oh, this is so fun. So you know Paul. Paul Green. Green. I sure do. How do you know, yeah? I've known, we've known Paul forever and ever. He used to model with my wife a billion years ago. And then Angie was his ex-wife and Aaron and Angie are best friends and blah, blah, blah. And then Angie became my best friend because we were both young mommies together. We had like kids and we were like 20, early 20s. And then Paul became like a Hallmark King and he was in every Christmas movie and, you know, that'll do. I love him.
Starting point is 00:51:12 He's so kind. He's the sweetest, kindest man. He's a great. He's the nice. He, we do that, Kim and I do this big fundraiser for the Alzheimer's Association every year. And Kim, he performed this year and, last year, I think. Oh, yeah. The dance party, which was really cool.
Starting point is 00:51:29 I'm sure he played like Hallelujah and then he probably played like something. He loves it. You know what he did? He did the monster mash because it was Halloween. He was so good. Like, he murdered it. Oh, that's cute.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Oh, Paul. Well, God damn you're doing Hallmark movies in cool ass places. I did one Hallmark movie and it was in fucking Winnipeg. So, you know. It's just your karma, Ollie. Well, to be clear, I've done
Starting point is 00:51:58 Homemark movies in Canada for, you know, for the last 10 years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but like the Swiss French Alps or whatever, it's like... How many holiday movies do they do a year? They do, um, a hundred original movies a year. Wow. You guys, Hallmark is amazing. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:52:17 It's an incredible, well-run machine. I just finished one Netflix, because Netflix is in that holiday space now. So I just did one, just finished one with the, Lisa Silverstone. Is it a Christmas one? Yep. And I was in Canada again, Toronto, in the winter. That's where we shot Christmas Chronicles.
Starting point is 00:52:34 No, I know. I know. We didn't even get into that. I know. I know. I played Kim's dead husband. My dead husband. And we had a lovely time together.
Starting point is 00:52:43 We did. Despite you being dead, we have really a good time. My face and like the Christmas ornament, like, whatever, our name is like, never die. Whatever. I don't even remember. What? By the way, how much do you get recognized for that? That movie is just so iconic in the Christmas game.
Starting point is 00:53:05 People love it. It's really good. It really is. It really was fun. So it's just a cool, fun movie. So when does your latest one come out? I think November. Fun.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Yeah, it was fun. It was good. It was sweet. It was cute, you know. But now you're both hosting. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. I have all of it right here.
Starting point is 00:53:27 I know Kate knows everything. What are you doing? What are you hosting? All the information. We're hosting dating shows. On different networks. Wait a minute. What?
Starting point is 00:53:39 I need to break this down. Is it so fun? Yes. Stupid fun. Well, what happened was I was doing this dating show. Basically like, so I work at Hallmark. I'm like one of their people. They told me that they were starting like a reality, you know, branch.
Starting point is 00:53:55 And I immediately started pitching them reality show ideas, which they promptly rejected. There were like nine in a row. And when I say pitching, like I came up with like decks. Like they were like very thought out like me dressing up as a fan and going on the Christmas cruise and then revealing taking my like mask off and revealing that it's me. Like that was like a documentary idea I had. Anyway, they didn't like any of those ideas. But then they called me because they got to know me through my pitching and asked if I
Starting point is 00:54:24 would host a dating show and I was like of course. So I called Kim like week one of hosting this dating show and I'm like you need to get yourself a dating show. This is the best gig. I was like downright restful. Those are off the hook and don't have to memorize lines. You could just be a weirdo and so great. So fun. Whatever you want. Yeah. And literally Kim was it like four days later you got yeah and but that was just coincidental like i didn't even call my people but it just so happened that like a week later they called me and they said there's this show it's called farmer wants a wife it's in their third season and they're looking for a new host and i was like i just heard that that's the best gay in town i'll take it are you having fun are you enjoying it yes it was so fun
Starting point is 00:55:12 i mean it's it is so different but it's really great to just show up and be me like i mean you guys must feel that doing this podcast you get to just hang and be yourselves isn't it a really Yeah. Oh, it's the best. But it's funny you say that because I will make my billions doing something that's just myself. Like, I need a game show. I need to talk show. Billions?
Starting point is 00:55:34 No, billions. No, billions. There's going to be a bead for them. Billions. Well, I'm going to parlay this whole thing into, you know, I mean, you can't even imagine what I've got planned. You can't even imagine the branding. Ashley, I want to know what your dating show is, which. What is it?
Starting point is 00:55:52 Yeah, I'm doing a dating show for Hallmark called Small Town Setup. Okay. That's about like town, town's people getting together to set up like a single person in the town. It's so cute and it's so silly. And yours is similar too, right? Because it's like a farmer. Yeah, mine is in the title. So the farmer wants the wife.
Starting point is 00:56:11 That's why I didn't ask. I kind of got it. Yeah. Yeah. And the wives want a farmer. So it works. Like they have to say yes. There's no like rose ceremony.
Starting point is 00:56:20 There's no wedding at the end. Are they still interested? And it's really good television. And I could relate to it because I, we grew up in New York and here I am on a farm. I've got like horses in the backyard and lots of poop, you know. So nice. Yeah. I love horses and lots of poop.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Yeah. I like muddy boots on a porch. I don't have that right now. I feel like it's missing. You got to make sure it's horse poop because you can't just say you like horses and lots of poop. We have all kinds of poop here, though. I mean, we have all different kinds. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school,
Starting point is 00:57:00 new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place will stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm character and a little lower flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith, but there's an institution that doesn't lose faith.
Starting point is 00:58:18 and that's what I believe in. To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other, sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:58:48 I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeard podcast present. IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story. A podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care. Backed by millions in venture capital and present. at equity, it grew like a tech startup.
Starting point is 00:59:21 While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands, and then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, starting September 19 on the Iheart
Starting point is 00:59:45 radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago.
Starting point is 01:00:07 I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015. A 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a tape-recorded statement. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike. This is in regards to the death of Colleen Slimmer. She just started going off on Eve and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995,
Starting point is 01:01:10 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slimmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. The state has asked for an execution date for Krista. We let people languish in prison for decades, raising questions about who we consider fundamentally unrestorable. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the on. iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Speaking of poop. Yeah. I was, my friends were staying at my house in the, in the desert. I looked out on to, at the window out on the second story, and on my roof is this pile of what I think is bobcat poop. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 01:02:17 That's what that is. Yeah, there's Bobcats everywhere there. It's like, and he's like just pooping in one spot. Oh, wow. Well, it's like, it's a cat. I mean, it has its litter. It's essentially just litter box. I mean, it's.
Starting point is 01:02:30 It's, but what do I do? Just let it poop. Let it poop there? Yeah, what do you want to interrupt me? Isn't it going to ruin my roof? Who cares? I mean, you'll just have like a little like poop section on your roof. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:02:42 You better watch out for your, you better watch out for your little doggy, though. You don't want your. dog to just be like running outside of their stuff. That's like a perfect little appetizer. I know. He's like a teeny. I also have like a Doberman and an Aussie. So I don't let them out without the big dogs. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:59 But we, I love that you guys, when I was reading about everything about you both, you guys are very open and vulnerable about the things that are going on in your life, which I always love and appreciate because I think it's important. But you know, like Kimberly, when you lost your voice, Ashley you had a miscarriage and you talk openly about those things like what was that like are these things that you're super comfortable with being open or is it something that you have to like ask yourself and like go through the process of being like okay I have to come out with it that's such a great question um well I'll speak for for myself I feel like um it's definitely
Starting point is 01:03:37 something I've wrestled with but ultimately it's such a relief to be honest and tell the truth it's so much more preferable to hiding it and feeling like I don't want anyone to know that's exhausting and we've been through that so many times like with our mom who had Alzheimer's and told us not to talk about it so for years we didn't and then when we finally could
Starting point is 01:03:57 when she wasn't like aware anymore that we were talking to talk about it we like haven't shut up about it you know and then with my voice I felt like when I was in the middle of it it was really hard for me to be honest because I didn't know if it was going to last for the rest of my life you know
Starting point is 01:04:12 those kind of health scares could be really scary and challenging and I was just terrified but once I found the answer and had the surgery and like came through it then I really wanted to talk about it because I wanted other people to know that they're not alone and you know this is what I've learned and and I was so happy to have a voice that I just was excited to use it you know and Ash what about you with the miscarriage I was just going to say like I remember Because I was, you know, we were, we're, Kim and I talk every day. So during her voice journey, I was, it was like an active part of every conversation we had, you know, and helping her navigate a party or like at one point she had to go to the White House. Like, we were like, what do we do? Like she can't, she'd lost her voice and she was like going to the White House and sitting next to, I can't, was it like Jill Biden or something. Like navigating all those crazy things.
Starting point is 01:05:12 But also having to stay super private about it. And I remember Kimmy when you came out of surgery, we, I think you sent me a text message and you were like, I just wrote this. And it was ultimately what you posted on Instagram, but you like sent me and you were like any changes. And I was like, no, this is amazing. But it was like a big moment where you decided to like come out. And it was basically the morning that you were in the hospital after your surgery, right? yeah and it felt like such a relief it felt so vulnerable and I had no idea I'd forgotten really like when people show up authentically I think I think the general public really responds and that's what happened is I just poured my heart out into this and then I turned my phone off when I went and like meditated which is my new thing since being through with a voice journey I have been meditating and I came back like I kind of forgot about it and I came back an hour later and I saw that it had blown up and people had really really responded to it in like a way that I hadn't I hadn't had a reaction like that in
Starting point is 01:06:16 years and then I felt like oh gosh what have I done there's no putting that genie back in the bottle but I'm still like so glad that I did I but what was your hesitation you know from the beginning you know why why just just pure privacy or was there a fear there of some kind it was a lot of fear it was very embarrassing to me I don't know I think it's hard to explain but I guess I felt sort of invisible for two years. I felt like a ghost. I felt like it was my fault for some time. I just had a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 01:06:48 There was actually like some guilt around the stuff talking about my mom and Alzheimer's, I think. Like there was an emotional component and like all this stuff that I had been feeling about like, oh, I can't talk about something was kind of like taught by our mom in some way. Like, you know, so like coming through the end of her Alzheimer's journey and deciding when we were going to talk about it. I felt a lot of guilt about that. So that was just part of my understanding all of, like, how I use my voice, how I show up. What is my internal voice is, you know, what I really learned in trying to find my external voice. And so it just felt like it was all a very vulnerable thing because it was so real that it was scary to share. How is that navigating?
Starting point is 01:07:32 And this is for both of you with the hubbies. Like, are they comfortable with, you know, being. more outward or do they sometimes feel like you know because that's my my biggest thing is that I'm going to say something and then someone else is going to be upset at me you know it's like there's all these moving parts whether it's my brother whether it's my other brother whether it's my parents or there's my partner where it's my kids it's like I could talk about anything and yet I sometimes feel like I'm going to let someone down if I say something personal you know yeah I relate to that and it's so funny because earlier Oliver you were like and tell us about your
Starting point is 01:08:15 husband and my husband Neil is a producer and he's amazing and then and I was like well and you know he he's had to stay home a lot recently and then I was think after after like moved on I'm like is the only time I'm going to talk about my incredible husband the fact that he's the one having to take care of the kids recently that's not I was like if he hears that is he going to be like I can't believe you like that was the thing you said about me like I've done a lot more than this like yeah because meanwhile like the truth is my husband is kim can attest like the greatest human that I've in the most like selfless generous kind and also fiercely protective of our kids so like we don't post pictures of our kids online or on social media like we're just super freaked out
Starting point is 01:08:58 about doing that without their consent and like how do they do that I use them to get more followers and potentially make more money on Instagram so yeah I'm the opposite me too. Yeah, and honestly, truly to each his own, but like my husband was really like, you know, fiercely protective of them and, and there is like a privacy element. And at the same time, he is a producer. Like he knows this industry, you know, just as well as anyone. And he knows that the more honest I am, you know, oftentimes the more people can connect with me.
Starting point is 01:09:33 So it's a balance, you know, it's a balance. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's the same for me. Like, you just have to make sure that whatever story I'm telling that it'll be one that they're okay with. That's hard. It's the fine line. I mean, you guys understand that because you've grown up in a public guy. We don't have a ton of time, but just the Alzheimer with your mother, I mean, I don't think I've ever actually spoken to someone who's dealt with that, who I know actually well.
Starting point is 01:10:01 But is there a moment where it turns? or is it very gradual, you know, it's a very basic sort of simplistic question, but is it a very gradual decline or is there that moment? Thank you so much for talking about this. I appreciate it. Yeah. I remember a doctor told us once, if you've met one person with Alzheimer's, you've met one person with Alzheimer's. So it can be different for everybody. Our mom had frontotemporal lobe disorder, primary progressive aphasia, which like took five to seven years.
Starting point is 01:10:36 They said it would take her five to seven years before she would need full-time care. But like I look back and I do remember it was actually at my wedding that there was a moment where I was like, oh my gosh, what happened to mom? She was really irrational and really upset the day of my wedding because she wasn't in the ceremony, which was very odd. That was kind of out of character for her. And so that day we gave her something to read in the ceremony because she was like having a total meltdown. And she got up to read it and couldn't get through the reading, like kept stumbling and faltering and like, and that was so unlike her. She was someone that was used to speaking in front of people. And we didn't know for another two years.
Starting point is 01:11:18 But when we finally found out, I remembered that moment. It was like, huh? I think that was the beginning. Mm. Wow. And then once it was diagnosed, you know, then there was your, the awareness becomes your forefront. And so you're almost witnessing and watching and waiting. Yeah, it's complicated.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Like it's, you know, they say it's like death by paper cut. And it really is that. Like it's really like these tiny, teeny, tiny little nicks. Like I remember in like it was like 2001, I was like in between auditions in New York City and I swung into her office down in like lower Manhattan to like pee and get a free snack, you know. And I walked into her office and she was hunched over the phone book. And I walked in and I said, hi. She goes, oh, thank God you're here. how do you spell Chicago?
Starting point is 01:12:08 That was like 2001, so that was years before your wedding, Kim. Right. And I remember being like, she's Doddy. She's hilarious. My mother is hilarious, you know? Right. And then the weirdest thing is that then 30 seconds later,
Starting point is 01:12:26 she's like, hey, I made a reservation for lunch. Let's go. You know? And like completely normal. Like it's all these different tracks in your brain. and one of them suddenly is like off the rails for a second. And then you're like, that was weird. But that's what's crazy about it is that kind of happens to all of us all day.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Yeah. Yeah. It's like you don't know. Yeah. Don't know. Sometimes you're like, oh my God, I can't remember that person's name. So I'm like, but they're like, I know this person. Like what am I?
Starting point is 01:12:53 So all of us have aphasia all day. What's the name? What's the name? That's aphasia. But our mother had something called primary progressive aphasia, which was just it didn't stop. Like it was all day. Yeah, I think the distinction is if it's interfering with your daily life, then it's something to get checked out.
Starting point is 01:13:11 I mean, if it's like, oh, I forget so-and-so's name, that that's not as big a deal as this is interfering with my work life or my family life. It's starting to change how I live. But there's been a lot, a lot has been done recently with Alzheimer's, at least from a news standpoint, you know, reading things, hearing things. You know, it seems like there's breakthroughs, if not now, but the future could look bright. No? I mean, I'm sure you guys have a lot of information on that. Yeah, I'm really hopeful. You know, hopefully funding for research will continue and we can find some of these answers because it does take a lot of money. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:48 You know, so that's kind of frustrating right now because we need a lot of research, but there are a lot of irons in the fire and we've been connected to some fantastic doctors who are doing really phenomenal work and there, you know, there are some medicines there that can slow down the progress. So I am hopeful. And FYI, the Alzheimer's Association, just to give them a little plug, has the most incredible resources. They have a 1-800 number. You can Google it. I don't know what it is. But they have somebody 24 hours a day who will answer the phone locally in your area, can
Starting point is 01:14:29 connect you with resources locally in your area. Um, therapists, um, you know, uh, nurses, um, support groups, et cetera, um, because the, the prevalence of abuse is incredibly high and it's not, you know, of the loyalty aspect, you know, yeah, and even if it's, even if it's not abuse, but it's like the caregiver's not going to their own doctor's appointments or the caregiver's not getting enough sleep or enough food, like they really need support. So, um, yeah, I agree, Ash. And the, and the, and the, and the, The hotline number is terrific and they'll connect you with free resources. Well, I imagine just patience in general.
Starting point is 01:15:08 I mean, we all have children. You know how our nerves get frayed and we go crazy and we have to check ourselves because holy fuck, let me just figure out why I'm like this. But I can imagine, you know, you have to be pretty patient and sort of go within yourself and start a true meditation because, you know, it can be, I can imagine how frustrating it can get, you know. yeah this was so great you guys are the sweetest I know you're the best this is fun really fun I'm gonna come to Nashville at some point probably this summer because I'm gonna come meet a bunch people and write so amazing I'll come yeah reach out yeah that'd be great all right uh two part
Starting point is 01:15:51 question you know of your sibling obviously the first part is if there was one thing that you can emulate from them that you could have for your what would that be and second part is if there was something that you could alleviate from them what would you take away to make their life just better a little more smooth that is the sweetest question both of those things are amazing um i think for me um what i love so much and um wish I had is Ashley's just full belly laugh that's just like rings throughout a room and like changes the atmosphere of a room. That's the first part. And the second part is Ashley used to be a doula. And she has this ability to like talk someone through a panic attack or through a hard moment.
Starting point is 01:16:46 And I am so grateful to be the recipient of that. But I wish I had that ability that Ash that you have. I wish I could give her, like, 24-hour child care. Just as needed. That would be really helpful. Yeah. You and every other mother in the world, it's like so, it's the hardest job ever. I sometimes think to myself, like, you know, I don't think I'd ever want to be a stay-at-home mom just because there's so much work.
Starting point is 01:17:24 Like, I don't know what I would do if I didn't have work and all I was doing was the kids. I think I'd go crazy. Yeah. Like, I need help. And then you think, of course, because we're not supposed to do it alone. We're supposed to all be doing it together. Like, all the girls are supposed to come together and help each other raise each other's children. That's like what we're meant to do.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Right. You know, our community is supposed to be there for us. And we've lost sight a little bit of that. All right, Ash, you go. Okay, so for Kim, so I'm going to say, Kim is so good at honestly looking, not, I mean, definitely at herself, but at me. And telling me, like, in a really honest way, what I could be doing better and how to see a situation from another person's perspective.
Starting point is 01:18:12 Like, there is a loyalty in that, I swear. But most of the time what she's saying is, well, it sounds like you were kind of a jerk. And it helps me see what my shortcomings are. And she does it to herself and she does it for me. And I wish I could do it for myself better. But all I need do when I look at a situation is go, what would she say I'm not seeing or where am I coming up short here? And it's something that I continue to strive for that I've learned from her.
Starting point is 01:18:44 And I'm and I need to strengthen because I'm the first person to be like, it was mean you know and Kim's like okay but you did yell first you know or something like that it's like a very helpful thing um and in terms of alleviate you know it's interesting we talked a lot about like Kim who Kim's parents were when she was growing up as opposed to mine and what I wish I could give her a dose of is the like screw the rules touch touch the table you know It happens, you know, get messing with it. Yeah, good. Touch the table.
Starting point is 01:19:23 And you'll see that, like, we're all still here loving you. Yeah. You know, you're not in trouble. That's great. In charge anymore, you know? Kim, touch the goddamn table. All right, I'll go. All right, we got a roll.
Starting point is 01:19:40 I love you guys. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. So much fun. It was so nice getting to know you. You too. Come see us. Nashville. I will. It's the best. I will.
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