Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Jimmy and Jonathan Kimmel

Episode Date: January 22, 2020

On this week’s episode of “Sibling Revelry,” Kate and Oliver head over to the Jimmy Kimmel Live! studio to talk with Jimmy and Jonathan. The brothers open up about their entertaining family, their nine year age gap, the state of comedy today, “Crank Yankers,” and share some of the pranks Jimmy used to play on Jonathan.Executive Producers: Kate Hudson, Oliver Hudson, and Sim SarnaProduced by Allison BresnickEditor: Josh WindischMusic by Mark HudsonThis show is brought to you by Cloud10 and powered by Simplecast. This episode is sponsored by ThirdLove, Four Sigmatic, and Sakara.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling rivalry. No, no.

Sibling rivalry. Don't do that with your mouth. sibling revelry that's good are you nervous well this is our for me this is our biggest

this is our biggest but let's set the picture you're sitting in Jimmy I want him to like me I do like that's really my concern you're sitting in Jimmy Kimmel's office right now drinking a ticket Gila that apparently was signed by George Clooney himself.

It was, yeah. Gassimigos reprisato. And shout out, shout out to... Meldman Clooney, Gerber. The Gerbers and Clunes. Clunes. Hey, George. Do you...

On a scale of 1 to 10, how nervous are you to interview Jimmy Kimmel and his brother, Jonathan Kimmel? I don't have butterflies. You know what I mean? But... How do you think Jimmy would feel about that? you know i want excuse me i want them to uh i just want them to like me like i said like that's probably some deeper psychological stuff but you know what it's interesting i think it could be the italian

roots but there's something familial about them it feels like i haven't even you know we haven't done the interview yet but it i don't know we have a weird thing it feels like a hudson in some weird way we have a weird thing where we have those familiar things where we have those Routes with anybody who's Italian and anybody who's Jewish. Right. So pretty much everybody in Hollywood. How did your research go? My research with Jimmy?

Really interesting, actually. I'm excited about this because he's a real family guy. Basically, everybody works with him. I know. So we've got some good questions for him there. And then Jonathan, who now is no longer at the show, but he's working... Crank Yanky Anchors. Right.

has worked with him forever and his Instagram is pretty funny yeah yeah he's got a good Instagram he reminds me of me I'm excited I have so I have so many questions and then I also have the same thing as you which is I hope I'm just like of all the people that you know I'm interviewing him which is weird that's the strange part because it's like if anybody's going to judge how capable I am of this he's going to judge us well you're He's, he's, he, he's doing his show right now, knowing that he has to come do this, which is a little bit probably like, oh, fuck, that's right. I was thinking about that on the car ride over. I'm like, Jimmy's probably like, finish the show and they're like, all right, what's the next?

I go home and like, no, no, sorry, Jimmy, you have a podcast with Kate and Oliver Hudson. He's probably like, oh, fuck. Honestly, I want to just talk to him about Stern the whole time because. And fly fishing. Yeah, and fly fishing. Which I'll make sure you don't because. I'm going to bring it up. I'm going to bring up some sort of a fly fishing thing, and for sure, Stern.

Jimmy's about to come in the room. I know, but you can't even walk down the hallway here without bumping into some sort of a family member. No, yes, that's true. And Mickey. Yeah, Mickey. And then I was like, oh, excuse me. They're like, oh, hey, I'm Jimmy's third cousin. Oh, okay.

That's cool. I'm like, oh, hey, I'm Jimmy's nephew's aunt. Like, you are? How does that work? I know. Wait. They're heading. They're heading in the.

They're having, yeah, yeah. It looks good. It looks good. No one's going to be able to tell which one is me and which one's my brother right now. I know. This we've already. I'll talk with a fun. Yeah, this must be an issue you guys have regularly, right?

Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean. You guys are lucky you were born different genders. I know. I know. Then we could do this podcast. Absolute disaster. We're so excited.

Thank you for doing me. Oh, thanks for coming. Oh, I know. We're not pros. so don't that. Well, you are now. Speak for yourself. I can pretend to do our

sister Jill's voice too if it helps. Yeah, throw her in. Just distinguish it. There's two of you and then there's Jill, right? Yes, there's three of us total. Unless our parents have been holding out,

we don't know. Jimmy, you're the oldest. I am. Okay. So I'm nine years older than John. Even though I look older, yeah. I got all the gray and all that stuff. It's nice.

You're nine years apart. Yeah. Oh, that's like you and why? I was kind of. Don't I look like the baby? Like a combination. Just for the listeners, I'm a gross old man. I'm a gross old-looking man.

I think you're actually pretty handsome. Oh, thank you too. See, there you go. John, don't get down on yourself. No. And then sisters in the middle. Sister in the middle. That's like me.

So very similar. We grew up in Las Vegas, mostly. My family moved from Brooklyn when I was nine years old. Jonathan was three months old. Yeah. And so Jonathan really was raised in Las Vegas. Yeah, my childhood was the most part. A gambling youth.

Did that affect his personality? I think it affected us all in ways that have yet to be measured. It was a weird kind of family. In a way, it was a very tight-knit family town in contrast to what Las Vegas is. You know, you kind of knew everybody, like, everybody was at the same church. Did you guys grow up, like, heavy Catholic? Yeah, pretty heavy. It was very progressive kind of cool Catholics.

Yeah. It was kind of funny. We had this group called the Pilgrim Friars. who would like come and stay with us and they were like a singing group they were franciscan priests and monks and they would stay at our house like six of them and we got away unscathed they were great guys they'd come and sing and play bongos in the living room but your parents weren't religious they were religious yeah but not in a bad way you know it's i think it's funny because i think now there's this like kind of negative kind of it's almost weird to explain not in a bad way

but it's all very nice yeah it was all very good we had a great We got the good side of Catholicism. We did. We got the very good side. But it's interesting that you say that because when any time now that you talk about someone being religious, there's a negative connotation to that now. Well, yes, in this God forsaken land city we live in, yes, absolutely. If you go to church, you're considered to be.

Yeah, I guess it's whether you're religious in a way that means you feel other religions are going to be cursed to hell or if you're like, just like, everybody's fine. We like everybody. Was it strict enough in your house that it, in full? certain things about your personality as you got older that you actually had to kind of deal with it wasn't strict at all and i think that people there there are things uh rules that are associated with religion that don't really i think our parents were pretty good about sticking to the basics the kind of love one another help one another stuff and um and and and i think we

were better for it was pretty like community driven you know we're just like oh everybody but church every sunday yep yeah i slept through a lot of it i was an altar boy are you guys still practicing i mean are you doing with the kids the last time i went to church it was like a christmas eve thing and i uh i sang every song loudly as michael macdonald just because no one can really fault you for singing your heart out but when you're doing it as michael mcdonald oh father who out in heaven it was kind of fun but you're a musical theater dude right yeah I did have a strong, much to Jimmy's dismay. I went into the dark world of musical theater.

Jimmy didn't like it. This is one thing. I found this out. And this is one thing Oliver, you know, I was quite performance-oriented. So when we were little, it drove him nuts because I was a musical theater type. Okay. And it did drive him crazy, which made me actually want to do more of it. Well, it was all about, look at me, here I am.

No, it wasn't. It was about my love for musical theater for you. It was like that. No, no, but no, but Kate, it was like, Mom, look, look at me, look at me. I mean, those words were said many, many times. For me, it's just, I've never been that interested in musical theater in general, but I trained John from the day he was born. I actually was in the delivery room. I threw a baseball right into the womb.

I hard, too, and he caught it. And I picked it off the ground. And so we spent so many hours training him to be a major league baseball player, and then he turned into a great baseball player. And really like, you know, an accomplice. baseball player in Phoenix and I went off to do radio which was how I started and when I came back he was a musical theater guy and I said what did you guys do to him while I was gone and I bought him a pearl jam CD I was like listen to this a lot over and over again it's all and then I went into musical theater college and had the most sex you can pot now yeah well yeah but did you actually

I was wrong on everything. You're like, he went the right path. But, no, it was weird because, like, when I was in high school, I think part of what I love about musical theater is there's a goofiness to it. That's kind of, like, silly and stupid. But also, like, once you start singing along and somebody's like, oh, you can sound good doing that, you're like, oh, really? Oh, maybe now I'm interested. And that's what I was, like, kind of goofing on someone, I think, in high school. And the drama teacher was there.

And he was like, hey, you want to be an into the woods? And I was like, is that a thing? Can I do that? I'm also like on the baseball team. And I talked to my coach. And he was like, oh, I have, you know, season tickets at Gammage, the theater. Like, yeah, you should do it. And we'll make it work for your schedule.

It's like a weirdly supportive group where it's like, yeah, you like that. Do that too. Go for it. It was kind of nice. That was in Arizona. We would move there. I mean, all of you guys, I wish I actually wish Jill was here because she's a comedian. Yes, she's great.

And all of you guys now are all in the same business. I mean, you're in comedy, but you're on the more producerial director. And then Jill is stand up. And she's at the, isn't she doing stuff at your, the new Vegas comedy club in Las Vegas, which is exciting. She does a lot of stuff. She does a lot. She does a lot with the troops.

And she goes everywhere. Is there an internal dynamic with you guys that's like inside the family at the Thanksgiving, table. Who's the funny Now? Is this now? Is this like when they were kids? Oh, kids. When you guys were kids? Was it fucking chaos? It's always cousin Sal is the answer to that. Well, yeah, it is true. Was it chaos as kids at Thanksgiving? Was it nuts? We all kind of like we're entertained by our aunts and uncles and stuff.

It was like that was more of the show than ourselves. We're provocateurs. We will sit there and get our older relatives going. That's what we do. That is what we do. That is what we but we also have like it's interesting the dynamic and i i've noticed this because we go on fishing trips i have a son who's 26 years old and a 28 year old daughter and then two little ones but i noticed that to my son kevin no one is funnier than than jonathan i mean they have like their humor so it's it is interesting how different people in the family gravitate toward each other and everyone has like their favorite and vice versa and and there really isn't Our family is very funny.

We have a very funny family. We are not the funniest ones in our family. I mean, my aunt Chippy is just a non-stop. She's amazing. Well, I was just talking to her daughter who was just here, right? Mickey, Mikey. That's my cousin, actually. That's your cousin, right?

And I asked it, is Chippy? Is that a, is that schick? Or is that her? You know, I was like, is that her? I mean, is that who she is. I think she understands why she's funny. She knows she still will always deliver, you know. She's 80 years old.

She's as cantankerous as can be. I put her on the show from time to time. And there's nothing I enjoy more than getting her going. I love it. And I just, I love pulling pranks on her. I load her. To this day, I will put explosives in her cigarettes. Oh, my God.

And she's the person who smacked me the most as an adult. She did. Especially, like, I don't think any other performers I've directed have smacked me nearly as much as in Chippy. Yeah, I've been hit by it. heard more than any of that. What was discipline like when you were guys with kids? Scary Italian moms and. Well, you know, our, you know, our spanked. Ant and our, no, no spanking. In fact, I distinctly remember moving from Brooklyn and my sister,

we moved to Las Vegas, and my sister misbehaved in some way at school and they paddled her. They hit her with like a wooden paddle. And my mother went absolutely berserk. She went, I mean, it was like, I don't think she even drove to the school. She just. She went there in a ball of fire and tore the place apart. It was still like you'd never, I mean, I think she may have hit some of the teachers with the battle. I was watching the genealogy segment with your aunt and your dad. Oh, yeah. And he seemed so sweet.

Our dad is very sweet. I could tell that his, I mean, from the little bit that I saw on that, that his demeanor is quite gentle and sweet. Is that, am I getting the right? Yeah, no, he is very. especially with little kids, especially with his grandchildren, he's very gentle. He's, he's great with kids. Well, the thing is the Kimmel's, the, what's up with the Kimmel side? Like, we seem to really see the Italian side of the family, correct?

Well, the Italian side of the family basically devoured the German, Irish side of the family. Like, okay, you guys, I mean, like, we moved to Las Vegas to be with the Italian side of the family. Which is so strange, because usually it's the other way around. isn't it? Well, Italians are inseparable in a lot of ways and also very forceful. So my father had no choice. I mean, he really had to give up his own

parents and accept our grandparents on the Italian side as his own. There are great Kimmel's out there. Like a lot of us just went west and then like half of the Kimmel family kind of stayed on the East Coast. And so we're Italian. Yeah, we're a town. So our father is Sicilian.

Yeah. So but our Sicilian side is Jersey. Did the Kimmel's get any the recognition that they deserve in this whole big family of yours? You know what I mean? It's a solid group. It's a solid group. They don't. They don't. They don't. No, I mean, like the Italian side of the family are like the big attention part of the family for sure. Yeah, we are. We see

now that Jimmy does the show once a year we go to Brooklyn, we get to like reunite with everybody at least once a year. That's cool. If they're not like visiting or something. What's your earliest memory of your older brother? Jimmy above me with a dribble of spit

out of his lips slowly trickling. I don't know why my mouth would be open for some reason because he told you to open it I think because you were screaming. Well, no, I think I connect to my...

There's a really early audio recording that my mother did of me when I was four. And I still, like, even though I was in Vegas like had the Brooklyn accent because my parents did and she's like Jonathan um tell me what you're doing today and I'm just like I went to a movie and she's like and what did you see just like I went to see Indiana Jones in the temple of doom and like listening to it now like I was four and she took me to Indiana Jones like what the fuck was going on and because like now with your own kids you're

just like oh which one's okay oh I love this as a kid but this one's There was no safety or any of that stuff. Oliver, I lean into it, man. I lean into it. We have a big, we have a big, this is where we differ. Parenting discrepancy in the way we do that. Like my kids go over there and come back and like being can't sleep for like, you know, two weeks. And I'm like, what's going on?

He's like, I can't tell you. And I'm like, what do you mean? He's like, because you won't let me go to Uncle Ollie's if I tell you. What about you when your baby brother came in the world? I remember when he was born. He was a huge baby. Like he was like, Jonathan was breastfed for too long. I was talking still.

He was talking. He was doing math. He was, in fact, my father always says that he got so big. And he was big just coming out of the, you know, the canal just to start with. He was 10 pounds. I'm only off it for like two weeks now. Were you guys all big babies? He was so big that when he got hungry, he'd just tear my mother's shirt.

dirt off. They finally had to sell. She couldn't go to the mall anymore. I'm hungry. Get over here. So cute. She should have pressed charges, really. So my brother and I actually,

same with Wyatt, we're about 10 years, 9, 10 years apart. Like, was there a time when it clicked? You know what I mean? Like, when it was like, all right, we've gone from older brother to younger brother to now. Well, all I've ever been was like, you know everything jimmy i was like can i can i go with you look up to him like crazy and to his

credit he was just like the nicest you know like the most inclusive person you could imagine you know it's not that nice though well i mean you're nice to say that but not not mean in a way that i could ever really register and we mean i got dragged down the the stairs while i was asleep a couple of times just to see if i would wake up i don't remember that's a good one i used to tell him i think did that Clito, who was my band leader, grew up across the street from us in Las Vegas, and he's a year older than I am. And so, Colito and I were always together, and Jonathan was, you know, he's a kid. He was, you know, like, I don't know, six years old. He wanted to, you always, can I go?

Can I go? There's always, can I go. And we used to say, Clito used to say, John, you can come when hell freezes over. And he used to ask my mother, when is hell freeze over? We also came up, and I think Clito came up with. this to a fictional character called the penis man who would chop your penis off

if you didn't do what you were supposed to do and Jimmy would say if I was good because we'd sleep he had like two different twin beds in his room and I would most of the time sleep in there and he was like I'll bless the wall so that the penis man doesn't come in the middle of chop your penis off I was an altar boy I was able to do that

I also for many years maybe like two years Jonathan was convinced that I was Superman and what I would do was I would have my hair and curl I'd have my hair and a curl and then he'd walk in the room and I'd quickly mess it up just so that he

wouldn't see the curl and he'd be like I saw the curl I'm like don't tell anyone we had a blue shirt underneath this shirt we actually convinced our younger brother's friend that we were a family of vampires we used to come over and we literally would set up the most insane like serious like we had coffins in the closet I don't know how we even got got we made them we like made these crazy coffins and we had one friend like literally upside down on the rack like on the rant like like sleeping upside down it was when Lost Boys was really big oh yeah oh we did and like you can't wake you can't wake them they're sleeping that kid was extremely Extremely gullible, though.

Because once we went once the vampire phase ended, we told him we were going to launch space shuttle from the fucking basement. And we put tinfoil all over the basement and filled like weird day. Doors opening and we're like, all right. We had lights. I mean, you know, it was all about that. We like did a stroke light and a sound like, it was really, it was, I mean, we were creating the set. But you guys were a family of entertainers pretty much, right?

Even though. Not really. I mean, I never really, yeah. I'm saying not necessarily in an occupation, but just in your personalities, it seems as though you guys were big. In Brooklyn, everyone is an entertainer. So we wound up in Las Vegas where people were kind of normal, so we seemed like entertainers in a way. Yeah, and we had an entertaining family. But like for me growing up, there was never like, oh, I'm also like a comedy person.

I always love comedy and kind of like a comedy geek and like sketch shows and stuff like that. So then when did the bug hit? Like for you first? Our parents, our mother, well, for me, I think I remember distinctly a couple of things. One of them is I remember we're in Vegas and my parents, our parents came home and my dad was wearing an arrow through his head. And I said, what is that? He said, oh, we went to go see this guy, Steve Martin. He's so funny.

And I'd never heard of Steve Martin. Wow. And then he bought the album at the show. and I think it was wild and crazy guy and I used to listen to it secretly because it's not something my mother would have approved of me hearing but I'd listen to it over and over again and then they bought his book Cruel Shoes

which we would read and they really were into comedy Mel Brooks and all of these these movies my mother's a goofball too she was a mean part in her high school she's like funny and like it all kind of stems yeah for my grandfather who was always like So they just exposed you to the great world of comedy. I think it's important to say that the things that we have partnerships with in terms of our ads are businesses that we really like.

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I mean, I could... Howard, I'm a super fan. Like, I'm obsessed. Same here. My uncle Vinny used to make tapes of the show and mail them to us in Las Vegas. And so I just listened to the tape, you know, like 90 minutes of Howard Stern. I listened to a thousand times. And just hope that he sent me another one.

But also I read in a magazine interview that David Letterman had started in radio. So those two things. And then I worked at a clothing store called Miller's Outpost, which you may remember. I worked there. And there was a guy who worked there who worked on the college radio station. He said, hey, you're funny. You should be on the radio. And that's how I went up in radio.

Just went into the station. College radio. Yeah, college radio. That leads me to an interesting question. I was thinking about this. You said something that once that was about how. That's the hardest audience now. Radio?

That young kids. No, young kids are the hardest for a comedian. Yeah, they are. They are because they're not sure what's, they haven't fully developed yet, and they're not sure what is okay to laugh at. Do you think it was like that then, though, when you started?

No, totally different now. No, because people weren't attacking each other all the time. Yeah. You know, it's interesting, I think, and it's almost like, again, you don't know what you're, what's okay to laugh at. I think a lot of the time,

there are irreverent jokes that people feel that funny in their gut and they want to laugh and express laughter but they're hesitant about it because they don't know whether it's politically correct to laugh at certain things nowadays. And as you get older

though you figure it out you become more comfortable but sometimes especially now where you know you make one wrong move online and it's going to stick with you for your life forget it. Where are you at with that actually I mean how has comedy changed for you guys. We mess up constantly.

I know. But if you screw up now, you know what I mean? Stakes are much, much higher. But your brand of comedy has always been, you know, nothing too crazy. When I was on the radio, you know, I said a lot of things that probably wouldn't go over so well now. Well, but I was thinking about it because Letterman, you know, I've been interviewed by both of you guys and it's a very different, I mean, you're very different styles. But Letterman, I mean, you're very different styles. But letterman i think there's a lot of things that letterman was able to get away with not that long ago that probably wouldn't have been at least you know on the on the ticker in the morning right

uh don't you think yeah well twitter is really changed is what has changed things i think more than anything twitter and this mentality this kind of witch hunt mentality where people love going after other people because it makes you feel like you're a good person if you point out the deficiencies in others you know and a lot of times people have a point you know you can't say like oh well it they're never it's never wrong and maybe we are a gentler society as a result of it but it is a shame when you see just a tiny tiny portion of the public um i don't know i just think i worry about stand-of comedians being able to try out material i think it's all about like your way in with whatever the premise is like how are you framing the premise is it something that you're saying

you believe or you're pointing out that people believe different ways like you can change like i'm doing this show crank anchors now which is like puppets making prank phone calls and so there's been a lot of like people asking me how i'm going to do it um with like sensitivities today and i usually like root it back into like well what are you like when you go to lunch with somebody are you like spouting off crazy obscenities about all sorts of different people or Are you, like, are you at your core or a considerate person? I think you can, like, push the boundaries of comedy as long as you, like, keep your consideration. Sure.

Well, what's interesting, you guys come from a solid family, right? Which is, I think, in comedy... Some of them are liquid. Yeah. But in comedy, a lot of these women and men are coming from really fucked up backgrounds. I mean, and we know them and love them, and they're hilarious, but there's the sort of darkness that kind of is rooted in their comedy, you know, their defense mechanism. You, and I think it comes across, and both of you, I mean, obviously, you know, and I think

we should say this, that you were a writer on the show for a while, right? Yeah. And then you direct a lot of the segments. There's a writer on South Park. Righter on South Park. Yeah, I made it just about everybody angry at one point or another. Yeah. But even at South Park, like, that writer's room, I think it's important, and it's tough for people

in, like, Chappelle's situation where you're an individual. comic and you're kind of like working crowds of your like it's it's it's kind of you doing it all on your own in a lot of ways sometimes like with our shows or like if you know if jimmy's doing like more of uh oscars like you want to have other people that you can have the conversation about what the material you're going forward with is and like that's usually what was good at south park it was always like how do we pose a terrible question but an honest question it's like if your question is honest like we we did this episode i was sure my mother was going to be really upset about where there was a statue of uh the virgin mother that was like crying blood and they were like

well the pope is going to decide whether this is a miracle or not and i try to pose the honest question like if the blood was coming out of another orifice would it still be miraculous and that of course turned into tray like the virgin mary is shitting I was like, oh, okay, we're going for it, and I called my mother, and then she called me, like, the day after she's like, that was hilarious. She's always had, like, you know, an open. But you know what it does, but it speaks to the brand of humor, and if you've created the brand for yourself, then you're able to get away with more even now. What about the man show? Like, do you watch those episodes and how do you, no, no, what I'm saying, when you would, would you, are you like, oh, God, are you like, this was just me back then?

You know, mostly what bothers me when I look back at stuff is it's not about. the content it's about the quality and sometimes I'll go like oh boy yeah that one wasn't good enough to put on me I wish we I wish we'd had another three months to work on the show we were doing at that time 26 episodes of the show in six months time so it was a lot more than what people put on TV now now an episode and now an order for a show is 10 episodes for the year so nice so that's really what I but you know ultimately like what are you going to do I can't go back in time but that's what I want to it's like at the time I went to I went back in time on the first time you ever interviewed me.

Oh, you did? At the, didn't I tell you this on the Super Bowl? And it was me and McConaughey. Yeah, it was, yes, it was the first. At the Super Bowl. It was the day before my show premiered. Yes. Yes.

And then I went and I looked and I tried to find it to see like what we, what we were. No, but I want to find it. It was on MTV. I think it was on MTV. It was on MTV. Oh, okay. It was a sports, a Super Bowl themed special hosted by my cousin. and Sal, that we thought it would be a good idea to do live the day before my show premiered

in San Diego, by the way. It was 17 years ago. 17 years ago. Isn't that crazy? It is crazy. I think that's so wild. I know. When you were working together more.

Did you ever? You know, we work on crank anchors together. He created the show. Do you ever, like, argue about something, like, if you want to go somewhere with a joke or if you want to hit on something, like, you have to tackle. about jokes. I don't think it's ever happened in our lives. We just have the same sense of humor. I mean, we were raised

in the same house. But what about whether to go for it or not? Like, do you ever have moments where you're like, I don't think we should touch that subject? I don't think we do. And who would be more? I think so. At this point, I do so many shows that I just have an internal, like just for expediency's sake,

I know what, rarely do we cross any kind of a line, because I kind of know what works and what doesn't and uh and i learned that the hard way you know but um we don't really have that when was the first time you guys worked together when did you got when when did it become like professional you know rather than brother brother i went to a theater college and i was you know auditioning and i was like a bass baritone so most of my roles are still 10 years ahead of me play like judge turpin and swinging todd or something but uh i talked to jimmy on the phone

and he was working on like benstein's money or something and he was like why don't you come out and help you talk to some people and so i got to talk to a few different like producers and first you worked on the chris rock show in new york right yeah then i did that too um and uh just like skipped around like learning different production jobs we worked on the man he was a pa on the man show when we started yeah so did you facilitate yeah you were like you're the older brother you had some success and you were like john like jon like jon let's let's go come on yes well i have an arrogance that But anyone who's related to me is funnier than anyone else. By the way, I mean, clearly you're into everybody I meet.

It's like, I'm a son. It's so fucking great. Well, your wife works here. She is, yeah? Your older son. Your oldest son. My oldest son. And then your cousin, your aunt.

My cousin, Sal, Aunt Chippy. And then your uncle was here for forever. My niece and nephew worked here over the summer. So my son was just doing a prank phone call in both of the them are singing the theme song now for crank anchors because without crank anchors my wife and i met on that show and the original incarnation of it so like they wouldn't exist without this those prank how many years can i do i do a phone call please do i want i want to come on and do a phone call yeah we're ready how long have they so down yeah how long have you guys been married uh 13 years 13 years

yeah amazing so wait jimmy have you ever said to a relative who was like hey jimmy can i come you're like, sorry, you're not really... Yes, it happens. Oh, really? Well, you know, the thing is, because once you open the door, the floodgates are open, and now it's like, oh, Jimmy, I can, can I be a PA? I always look at it this way. I look at it as, first of all, what do you want to do?

Because if you're looking to be a star, I don't necessarily have a spot for you here because you have to work your way up and you're not just going to be on the air on it. Now, if I was doing local radio or something... I try to tell that to Oliver all the time. It doesn't work. But if you want to be like a producer or have a career in writing or something like that that you can work your way up, then we talk. But if people, sometimes people, and you know how it is,

and it's not really limited to family, friends as well, they just want a magic wand to be waived and everything to be great. And, you know, I have people who work here who, you know, who, who work their way up. And I can't shove somebody the head of the line. John started as a PA. Everyone in my family who works for me started on the lowest rung and worked there. But it's so much less likely to sue each other as part of the one of the good things. Exactly.

I mean, there can be family members who, like, don't take the work more seriously. but like the greatest failure for me would not be like writing a joke jimmy didn't like it would be like not working hard for right you know like did you ever do you that's like from the beginning like the terror in your mind but when you were pitching jimmy something do you ever feel like anxiety like i'm gonna pitch this fucking idea and i hope he likes it and you get shot down and it's well it's more anxiety over like wanting to do the idea rather than like anxiety over how he'll respond like if want to do something and he's like i don't think it works then i'll be like bummed that i don't get to do you know but it's still

unfortunately his show some of my favorite stuff that you do is when it's a little like the the the white house correspondence 2012 you got pretty like you said some pretty crazy crazy thing well and i loved it yeah and did you guys work together on stuff like that yeah at that time john was a writer on the show and i'm sure we're on that as well. I wrote most of that. I know that there's certain subjects that are more challenging, but politics does it feel more like it's like open season for you? Like you can just really go there? I mean, I think one of the things that we grow up with is the idea that politicians are public servants

and if they decide to get into it that we don't have to hold our criticism back. And now it's hard to hold your criticism back and I really found that that some of the things I used to be very interested in like sports for instance seem trivial to me right now because of the other things that are going on and you know we all we're all tired of talking about Donald Trump but we don't feel like we can each day there's another wheelbarrow full of nonsense that we have to sort through and present and it's just you know from the beginning the idea of the show was we talk about the news of the day and this is the news i remember a time where there was nothing to talk about you'd have to like come up with some generic bit and that just never happens anymore no do you feel a responsibility to that though

do you ever have moments where you're like i don't want to talk about this shit oh yeah all the time almost every day and i sit here and i've got the tv on and and and it's just like oh boy here's another thing and another thing. But I also think it is, I won't say it's important because I don't think what I do is important, but ultimately I'm there to entertain people, but I do think that it's important to me to continually point out that what's going on right now is not normal. And I think with comedy, you can make it digestible. And people can watch cable news and they can get angry, they can watch MSS,

NBC and get really worked up. They can watch Fox News and get really worked up. For me, I want to present these insane things that are going on in a funny way. And I think hopefully it keeps people who might not be engaged, engaged, and it reminds them. But the great thing I do, I think, Jimmy, honestly, is you've got balls and courage, because yes, there is funny. But when, you know, when we're dealing with health care and, you know, you're talking to my your kid and that all went down i appreciate you saying it's not an easy it's not courage really it's not easy to do it's a feeling of having no choice is what it is for me like when there's a shooting in my hometown but courage to put yourself out there i wouldn't do that you know what i mean like that's

personally very difficult for me and you know that that that that is going to get picked up and everyone's going to talk about it and you're going to get made fun of by people and people are going to revere you you're going to have you're going to run the gamut but you know that's going to happened but you say fuck it this isn't that important to me that i need to say this i don't feel like it for me it's just i just sometimes feel cornered and and i feel like this is my only way out of this corner yeah and you you would regret it for the rest of your life like not when you have the opportunity i say something right that is like what i'm saying when you have the platform you have to tackle these big stories you know after 17 years of doing this how much gas is in that tank

do you think um fumes i don't know you know i really don't know uh i i i know that right now because you're like in your pocket right now right now it feels like you know there's momentum and it's weird every week and every month you just kind of like some nights you just feel like you have momentum and some nights you don't and um you one of the if there are any good things about our current administration it's that there's always something to care about. There's always something to get fired up about and to have an opinion about. And that's not always the case. So for us, yes, there's material. If I could wave a magic wand

and make him go away, I would, you know, but since he is here, he does give us plenty of things. And I would let Jimmy puppeteer on crank anchors if he needed to work like that. But he needed. You know what? And then we'll come off this. But you know what the real issue I think is aside from the policies and the politics, the desensitist, that we're desensitized to the insanity that is happening. It's so in our face now that the things that, you know, eight years ago, five years ago would have been, oh my God, is now just, oh, just scroll through, scroll through, we're in a scroll through culture where nothing hits home anymore because he's done his job in the sense that he has desensitized us to anything that is that should be extremely impactful yes and

it's also it's just an interesting time i think for comedy because it's hard it's not that it's not that funny i mean it's like part of what i enjoy is i know that it probably drives him crazy that we're all making fun every night at 11 30 and 1230 i love that and he watches it all it does give me a little bit satisfaction oh god all right well i don't want to keep you guys here for for much well i got so so you know that i'm a i've been fly fishing since i was six years old big fish i'm very proficient it's a passion of mine fishing just in general is a passion of dry fly or what all of it really of course dry but dry is the ultimate you fish no but allie like we do yeah but i still don't know shit you don't know shit that we know that we

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I love bone fishing as well. Floating, drifting. Flooding. Flooding. Flooding. So we just, we went not that long ago. I didn't catch anything. I'm terrible at it, apparently.

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Yes. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. In what, I mean. In that there's no nonsense off the table. I don't know how fun we are. No, I mean, yeah, because we say weird things to our kids and we're also.

I don't think my kids will really appreciate me until like they're in the years to see all of the stuff I've worked on. Will they be like, oh, okay, you're cool. Yeah. But like for now, no, I mean. the kids are pretty good kids I mean I can't complain they're close in age

so like and are they super close like our kids are really like super close oh yeah they love each other yeah

you have older kids and younger kids like I do yes I have a 16 year old and a baby right and how do you feel

that that sort of informed you the second time around well it's like two groupings it gives you confidence more than anything

I think You forget all the, the actual, like, tips that you've learned along the way. I found anyway, I was like, oh, how do I do this again? And what, oh, yeah, right. I have to, yeah, we have to put diaper cream on after changes. But what you do have is you know that you, that these two children are now adults and alive and that you did it the first time and you'll be able to do it again. And that for me, because the first time around, I was a kid, you know, I had my, my daughter

when I was 24. And, yeah, right? And you don't know what you're doing. And I didn't even live near my family. I was on the road working radio jobs and getting fired each time. And I didn't have my parents. I didn't have my wife's parents. Wow.

You know, it was just really me and my ex-wife. And we didn't have money. I mean, from the kid. No, I wasn't away. I was away with the kids. With the kids. Like I worked in in Vegas, Phoenix. Seattle, back to Phoenix, Tampa, Florida, Palm Springs, Tucson, Arizona, and then to L.A.

So I moved to a lot of times. Wow. And it was hard. It was hard. It's much easier the second time. And like first baby as a dad, you're like, I'll just heat some bottles up, I guess. I think I'm helpful. I don't really know. Just give this kid a sausage. It'll be fine. All right. Well, let's go. We do a quick thing.

We ask you guys to answer for your sibling. It's just quick and funny. All right. Don't say it's funny until they laugh. Okay, okay. That's right. It's actually not that funny. It's just fun for people to think.

That should be a thing. It's not funny until they. So what would they choose? Okay. Jimmy, you do it first for Jonathan. Would he want the power of invisibility or the power of flight? Oh, definitely flight. Flight.

Nice, nice. Why? Although I do have a theory that if we could fly, we wouldn't we'd fly for like a like a few weeks and then it'd be like oh god it's exhausting to fly it would be like running like you know you become an adult it's like how often are you running you just have one moment a few days into it that really scares you and you're like i don't know if i'm you hit like an updraft you're like i'm never fucking doing this again yeah i just went i ran into an electrical wire i have i don't know it's i've noticed over the years that like if i ever walk away from

my cassette where I'm directing or something like I immediately I don't expect other people to turn the mics off like I immediately just take my headphones off because like I don't like with the idea of invisibility I mean yeah there's a lot of cool things you can do but I don't want to I feel like creepy all right so then so both of you would be flight you'd say he's flight too yeah I think so okay to live in medieval times as a royal or in future times as a cyborg I think John would see the future okay I don't think I would Really? Because I'm just thinking your life expectancy would be very short in medieval times.

People are constantly killing. Well, you do have a machete, so you probably would be all right. I would say the future for you. I mean, I feel like in thinking deeper about the question, all it comes back to is like my family. And as if I was in the future, I'd be like, I don't have my family anymore. In the past, you wouldn't have them either. Could you recreate them? For me, it's about cleanliness.

It would be really upset. friendliness and I don't think I could deal with medieval I thought if you go back to everything stunk in medieval I do this all the time I'm like do you know how terrible it would be to live in that time when you walk through and you're like God there's sort of this romantic idea

that it might be amazing but I won't even go to one of those medieval times shows that's how anti-medieval times are I was thinking if I got transported back to that time you'd want to show off and like show all the future stuff that you know, so you can seem like some crazy wizard. But then I realized I would

not know how to do anything. I'd be like, I think magnets I think you have to like, let me show you a wheel. Dig. I know metals involved, but like I think like there's electricity

but it's hard. It's all very hard, but trust me. This is an offshoot question. I'm going to go shit in this hole. But what do you think you would be in the old west? like would you be a blacksmith would you be a gunslinger would you be a saloon owner well if those are the three choices it would definitely be saloon owner um all right who's uh who's stricter as a parent i think me for probably john yeah probably john i would say yeah yeah i feel like it it's hard to tell you always feel meaner than you may be but i'm also like large and mean

seeming. Do you're like, family, family, if you ever see Jimmy, like, rail into his kids, and you're like, Jesus. Well, just like the normal scolding, you know, that happens from time to time. Right. Right. Where you're, like, more concerned for their safety. Like, hey, daddy's on TV.

Pay attention. Yeah. Do you allow each other to discipline each other's kids? Oh, yeah. I think so. I mean, we never do, but I wouldn't have a problem with it. Like, I think we're the kind of family who are like, you'd indulge in whatever. it was and handle it exactly the opposite way of how you deal with your own we we allow that

all the time okay who gets annoyed more easily oh probably me but that's but we're both at a very high level of getting annoyed i'll just pick jimmy on this one so that i don't have to take all the heat for the being a bad parent who's the better cook jimmy yeah i do a lot of cooking you do yeah i have my moments but i don't get as uh do you ever use the instant pot i have an pot. I love the instant pot. I have a suvied. I've got a tandoor oven. I've got a smoker. I've got a gas grill. I've got a wood fire grill. I've got a pizza. Have you done a cookbook? I have not. Are you going to do a cookbook? No. I don't really, I'm not. You're not into the lifestyle thing. I love the idea. I don't feel like I have anything new to contribute. I just make the basics. But you can make money off a late night snacks with Jimmy Kimmel. He'd be really good at making. He'd be really good at making. the cookbook, like the whole look of it, the vibe of it, and everything. I think it would be great.

You could do a charity component. I'd buy it. I'd just feel like all my chef friends would laugh at me. Okay, who can pull a better prank? Jimmy. Oh, yeah, that's the kind of what I was born doing. You're born. Refer back to the penis man.

Oh, you're born. You're born. I'm trained in the ways. Okay, and then, I mean, who tells a better joke? Jimmy oh I don't know about that I don't know that that's true well telling and writing are two different things I guess but I think I have the rare like inspired moment where I can really like John picks his spots yeah right but like at one point like on the first like one of the shows we worked on together Adam Carolla um because I'm dry said to me like Johnny

do me a favor at the end of every day right down a list of the things you said you just make a note of whether it was a joke or not. And I was like, okay. Adam's like another abusive big brother that Jonathan never asked for. I know. He didn't hear it. But with Adam, I'll tell you a funny story about Adam, there was one time, all of Jimmy's friends were like part babysitter for me at one point or another.

Like when I was 16, I'd come out and Jimmy would let me answer phones at K-Rock. And, you know, it was like really fun. I'd get to go to all the concerts and hang out and all that stuff. And I remember, like, for some reason, Adam was nice enough to, like, drive me from the station to where Jimmy was. I can't remember the context. But it was right before I was going to go to this theater college. And Adam's like, so, you're going to theater college, huh? And I was like, yeah.

And he's like, and I didn't know what was going to come from him. But he's like, all right, well, he grabs a CD out of his console and puts it in. It's Oklahoma. He's like, sing. And I was like, Oh, flow over the wind, come sweeping down the plains. And I finished the song, and he's like, all right, you can go to theater college. It was like his test to make sure I wasn't going to ruin my life and make a terrible decision.

He's very practical in that way. But I did appreciate it. And I was like, oh, he's like his secret little theater passion came out. Then you're obviously the more musical. Definitely. Can you sing? It's all part of the. Like, I'm about a five and John's at a 10.

And Christmas, do you say, do you love the carols that do you sing? Like, are you the one who... I do annoy everybody in my family. That's me too. But the kids still like it. The kids still are into it. Do you guys fight ever, by the way? No, I feel like...

No, never fight. There's never... There's certain parts of, like, the little brother dynamic, which feel like you don't want to, like, be disrespectful in that way. What about this? If you could take something from Jonathan, meaning like a trait of his and take, take as your own. Like, like, I love that about him.

I wish I would he get to keep it or I'd be taking it from it? No, no, no, no, no. He gets to keep it. But like something that you, you know, it's like. Yeah, like his musical ability, yes. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, what about you with Jimmy?

I think just his ability to have confidence in what he's doing is like always like incredibly impressive. Like the kinds of like, not to get into the business stuff, but like the way he could present like an idea for a conference. like he'll just sell it right away in a way that isn't I'm not really talking about it in terms of just like oh it's good for your career it's just like an impressive it's just the way it's interesting it's interesting because we've done a bunch of these now and that's like a fucking theme the younger sibling yeah and confidence and because I have the same thing with with my sister if I could take something from her it was like just her confidence her overall just confidence of what she's doing and her you know know, just her ability to sort of just say, this is what I want. Howard Stern talking to Billy Eilish and her brother about like the same thing, but he was like, some songs I write and I'm like, I wish she did it because like she has that

ability to just like kill it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But we have, I think, you know, our relationship, we have a very good relationship in general, but is complicated by the fact that we work together and that I am John's boss. And I have a similar thing with my wife, you know, where I am the boss here at the show. And it's, it is, it is not a position I relish in any way. How does that work? I just, you know, I just, I'm fortunate that Jonathan and my wife and my cousin, Sal,

and some of the other people I work with understand the position that I'm in and that ultimately, I have to make certain decisions, even if they're different. from the decisions they would make. Do you as a family ever have moments where it's like you get pushback, Jimmy? I mean, or... Yeah, and I always feel like if somebody, especially with John or my wife, feel strongly enough to push back, that I should probably just give them the benefit of the doubt, you know?

And I think we do a pretty good job of picking our spots in those scenarios, you know. Yeah, and Molly is tough, you know, like... Yeah. it's not like a pushover kind of person I am a pushover kind of person for sure but I think at my job now something so strongly you're like motherfucker I wish I could well like if I go to sell something I'm like

I understand why you might not like this idea that's how you start I think it's good because I can be funny sometimes but I think like working at the show that I do now where I'm kind of in charge I do have like a clearer and better appreciation for like

what it means to be who everybody goes to for everything because it's a lot of pressure and also it's it's relentless with like everybody's at your door everybody's like can i have this time and you want to be like as respectful to everybody as possible but like to understand more clearly like the pressure of it all like gives you a new perspective your importance in their lives are is is outsized it is um it's for a lot of people that work at a place where you're the the host, the executive producer, the things that you say to them are a lot of times, like things that they remember for the rest of their lives. And like, I don't go about my day

acknowledging that. And so like when John is running crank anchors, you know, he gets to experience that a little. And I mean, not that, listen, I'm a bossy person. I like being in charged. There's no question about it. If I had to choose between being in charge and not being at charge but there are i don't love when it carries over into our family life where it's like what are we doing for um you know this holiday and i i i feel like like well i'm i'm not really in charge you know uh yeah i'll make the decision if you really want it but um i don't necessarily feel like i was in charge before i had this show well does mollie carry that over on into your relationship meaning like she makes she thinks she's expecting you to make

make no no not with mollie um but i mean she would rather make every decision on her own yeah well before we before we anybody's have to ask a personal like his stern is like you know my idol basically when Howard or daniel daniel stern yeah daniel stern city slickers is so fun he's slipping with his bare feet on all that by the way i do love daniel stern it's very fun seems nice but uh what when was the moment because you idolize stern obviously like what was the moment and when did that happen where it was like holy fucking shit stern is like in my universe right now like we are boys sort of or he's emailing you know it's funny is like what is that moment but you know i always loved howard yeah i mean since i was

kid and adam carola who was my partner on the man show he liked howard fine but it wasn't like something that he was passionate about and we went on the show together the first time and And Howard took a liking to Adam. And I was like, this is ridiculous. You don't even care. So, but then, you know, I think Howard sensed my enthusiasm as the years went on. And we have a lot of common. I mean, we both, you know, I'm a radio guy.

I think of myself in those terms. And we worked with a lot of the same people and went through a lot of the same things. And you just don't find too many radio guys. And so we have that basis. and also, you know, I think he appreciates how much I love him. Yeah, of course. Like some of the parties that happened, you know, years ago, just observing him, I related to him in a lot of ways because, like, I'm like, oh, he's the same, like,

tall nerdy guy that I am, like, awkwardly wandering around at a party. Like, you just kind of saw, like, oh, that's who he actually is. He's also not the guy you want to get on the wrong side of because he's just so smart. Yeah, although he's calmed down a lot. Oh, so much. He's a lot less vicious than he used to be. If there's one thing that you could take from your sibling to alleviate something from them. Like an anxiety.

Like an anxiety. Well, I would say anxiety. I think John has a lot of anxiety. I would take that from him. Why do you, what, like, what is that, is that a deep, seated non-potting? Oliver went to Hoffman, okay. I went to this place called the Hoffman Institute to change my whole fucking life. I'm going to my own podcast about it.

I don't know. I was always felt very self-conscious as a kid, you know? Like, I was like not, I just never had like a lot of, like I was nervous with girls and stuff. Probably like, I hate to blame my mother. It was definitely like, hey, who's that you were talking to? She likes you, you know. It was like the opposite of the mother who's like, I don't want you to go. It was like, she likes you.

Go out with her. And you're like, I don't, now I don't want to do anything with anybody. I would suggest that the deeper message being sent was, if you show interest in a woman or a girl, I am going to embarrass you. So don't show any interest and stay with me forever in my house. Yeah, which I relate to that too. Especially now that you have kids. I mean, there's a certain situation that you have your parents. I do relish in some of the embarrassment.

And at one point I feel like the worst part of my parenting is I've, like, buried these deep lies. like I told my son when he was born we put out this birth announcement that I put I like photoshopped him into a peanut shell and then when he was old enough to like look at this picture and say why am I in this peanut shell and I'm a baby I was like well you were born like my wife actually is like you were born in a peanut shell and you came out of your like I added like that he came out of my butt in a peanut shell and so you're like they're hard to digest he's nine but you know not entirely sure it's not true and then another time i told him like there's one he was like exploring bad words not like he's you know they're both pretty like uh controlled with that stuff but um i was like well there's one word you should never say ever or you will explode it's the cue word and i didn't have a real word that to back up the keyword i mean there's some minor, like bad words that you can assign to a

quefe. Cweef, that's the first thing. I guess, but it wouldn't make you explode. No, well, and too you are. So then, like, that was a two-year of slow burn. Long-long con. And I was just waiting for him to ask like what the cue word is. And my answer

would be, well, it's, uh, I don't tell anybody I told you this, but it's quook. And then he would say, what's a quook? And I would say, it's someone who commits a quime. Oh my God. Are you still waiting for this?

No. And so I had to like force him to ask me. I was like planning like how can I get him to ask me? But he was like I don't want to even think about it because I don't say that word. And then I tried that. I gave him the big reveal. And he was like, I know that that's not what it is. I know it's something else.

So now I like don't have a backup plan. What about what would you alleviate from your brother, Jonathan? I'd like to take, you know, the, like, pressure off him from, like, everybody else, you know. If I could, like, take the family on a trip and have him not be the one harassed about, like, whether it went well or not, like, that I would. Well, I feel like that's such a bummer when you're, like, this generous person, you know, it's, like, such a shitty byproduct of that, you know, that inclination. Well, you're also a big gift giver. Well, you know what happened is really, the restorative. I think you're referring to is we all went on a trip to our, like our homeland, Ishkiah, this island

off the coast of the island. Oh, you're southern Italian. You're southern. Yes. And we went to the, we brought the whole family. And my dad, at the end of this very elaborate and expensive trip, I over here, my dad, we're in Brooklyn doing our show. And there's some distant relative. And she comes up him and she goes so you guys went to iskiya and i was like yeah yeah we did your father said the house was a disaster and i just looked over at him i'm like oh he did did he he just he was like a deer in the head like he was caught no the weird extra dynamic my dad has is that like because we all have guilt in us he doesn't want like the person he's talking to to feel like bad that we went on a nice trip.

Oh, yeah. So his automatic is like, oh, yeah, it wasn't great. He doesn't want to feel like he's bragging. Right. So it's almost coming from a sweet place. It is. You know what I mean? And you had a very, very fucked up place.

All right. Well, I'm so grateful that you did this for us. Yeah, that was fun. Thank you so much. This was awesome. And I don't really talk to Jimmy ever, so this is great. That's good. Oh, we go, well, one more thing.

One more thing. We do this with everything. So we're going to ask a question. Oh, yeah. We've got really tough skin. We have, yeah, there's a, don't worry about hurting anybody's feelings. It's being tallied throughout this first season.

The winner, there's a tally between Katie and myself. The winner will, now there's a $10,000 charity of my choice or her choice. You know, over wins this sort of points battle. Right. It's a battle. We're not, we're new at this interviewing thing. And so it's basically like, who do you like better? Oh, definitely, Kate.

Yeah, sorry. Fuck. Listen, you almost have us with the fly fishing. If you'd stuck with the dry fly and not attack Huey Lewis is very, that was the quickest. Very reason for. This might be the, this might be the hardest one for you. That was the quickest.

We didn't even finish the question. I basically didn't finish the question. First of all, you should nymph fish. That's ridiculous. that anyone is telling you. See, this is why we don't like you. Oliver did say I was handsome, so I might, yeah, I guess what that was cool. Kate put her hand on my leg, though, so you definitely.

Fine, fuck it. Well, this was awesome. How are we doing at this? You're doing great. It was fun. It was a lot of fun. It's a fun idea also. I can't believe it was so quickly that you guys answered Kate.

I mean, that was very fast. This is going to be hard for you. Very, very bad. You're very neurotic. You don't even think about it. I know. I've been thinking about it the whole time. You haven't been thinking about it.

We're ultimately mean people. We didn't really get to the bottom of that. Jimmy, maybe I was expecting. Jonathan, I mean, you were even quicker than Jimmy. In our meanness. I, um, anyway, love you. Thank you, thank you. Thank you guys.

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