Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Kate Cries
Episode Date: February 5, 2020On this episode of “Sibling Revelry,” Kate and Oliver read emails from our listeners and Kate cries at almost every one. The letters are both happy and sad, and all beautiful. We love hearing from... you, so please keep sending your stories to siblingsubmissions@gmail.com.Executive Producers: Kate Hudson, Oliver Hudson, and Sim SarnaProduced by Allison BresnickEditor: Josh WindischMusic by Mark HudsonThis show is brought to you by Cloud10 and powered by Simplecast.This episode is sponsored by Zola and Coors Light.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hi, I'm Kate Hudson.
And my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.
And what it's like to be siblings.
We are a sibling rivalry.
No, no.
Sibling rivalry.
Don't do that with your mouth.
Sibling rivalry.
That's good.
Hey, Siri, do you have any siblings?
I don't have a family tree, but I have a pretty great file directory.
Oh, I'm so sad.
That's really sad, Siri.
Hey Siri
Do you have a brother
I don't have a family the way a person would
Are you sad
If you're good
I'm good
So you're sort of submissive
I don't have an answer for that
Is there something else I can help with
No
She's like leave me alone
What do you mean?
I don't know how to respond to that
We do a lot of these
episodes that's just us
where we talk about, whether it be, I don't know,
it's always been on the holidays.
But I felt like it would be a good idea
to go through the emails that were sent to us.
These are some of the emails that have made us feel
just grateful that we're able to reach and touch people
to either talk about their relationships with their siblings
or want to reach out and have a stronger connection.
I like this one.
This one's my favorite one.
Because it says Oliver, parentheses, and Kate.
Don't say their email, but you can say their name.
My name is Lindsay, and I find Oliver's position in your sibling relationship extremely relatable.
Although I consider myself mildly successful on paper, my successes are most definitely trumped by my younger sister, Katie.
Oh, wow.
We're a little over six years apart in age, and she has somehow managed in her shorter lifespan to a
accomplish more than me to illustrate i'll start with just a basic genetic superiority i'm five
ten in height the shortest of four siblings i'm the oldest of all of these tall assholes
wow lizzie's like i did not expect this to be read on the podcast katie the youngest is also
one of the tallest coming in at a whopping six five whoa oh i want a i want a picture of these girls
I know. She didn't even have to try.
She just grew up and naturally surpassed me.
I'd like to think your sibling stardom in the entertainment industry is a lot like Katie and I in the athletic world.
I played every sport you can imagine growing up and was a standout athlete in high school.
I went on to play D3 volleyball and basketball and college at a small woman's college in North Carolina.
Awesome.
Awesome.
I thought I had a damn good athletic career.
Dot, dot, dot, dot. All caps, wrong.
Katie broke every record possible in high school volleyball.
She was nationally recognized and even trained with the Olympic national team at one point.
She was heavily recruited by every college in the country and was given a scholarship at Penn State University.
Yes.
The mecca of volleyball institutions.
See, Katie trumps again.
We also have several hilarious sibling stories from growing up.
One involves a dog shot collar and another a swing set and torn set.
We would love the chance to talk to you guys.
Anyway, thanks for the last.
Keep up the good work.
We love it.
Best.
Lindsay, whatever.
I'm not going to say the last name.
And in parentheses, Katie.
That is so great.
Does she put Katie in parentheses?
Oh, Lindsay, that's so great.
That's cool.
I mean, the thing is, though, see, Lindsay gets the sense of
humor. I mean, you know, if you kind of built, you build a different skill set, I guess. And I
will also say that it is also how you look at success. Well, I think you're competitive with your
siblings no matter what. That's just the way it is. I think there's an under, there's an undercurrent
of competition with your siblings. It's not a negative thing. It's just there's an inherent
competition. So this is from Whitney.
This is actually a very sweet one and a kind of sad, but meaningful.
Whitney says,
Hey, guys, I absolutely love your podcast.
It's such a unique program.
And in a sea of overwhelming choices, it's so refreshing to hear from siblings.
It means more to me than you know, because I'm the youngest of three girls.
My oldest sister moved away when I was still young.
And while we have a good relationship, we hardly ever see each other due to 3,000 mile distance.
my other sister who's two years older than me
has always been my best friend
and the closest person to me in my life
until five years ago
when she had a complete breakdown
and was diagnosed as bipolar
and was paranoid schizophrenia
the person I once knew
is completely gone
and it is hands down the most
I just can't
I know
heart wrenching
unbelievable pain
I've ever experienced
she was here one day and the next she was convinced that we were all literally trying to murder her
but she still sounds like her she looks like her she smells like her and eats like her and walks like
her but her personality is just gone and she's now very hostile to say the least it's a strange
feeling to have to mourn someone who's still alive and sitting right in front of you but that's
what my family has had to do.
Anyway, the point I'm making is I love hearing you two talk to other siblings about how
you've all gone through this life together and made it through.
I can't handle this.
That's a rough.
It's a rough one.
Made it through so much and held on to each other through it all.
It's not an option I have anymore, and I finally accepted that after years of trying,
but I still so desperately crave the sister relationship we had 30 years.
Listening is therapeutic for me, and I just wanted to say thank you.
The podcast is something I didn't know I wanted, but I so desperately needed.
Lots of love.
Wow.
Well, it's one of those things, isn't it, where you just sort of like...
Well, be grateful.
that I'm not
No but I'm serious
I'm such an asshole
Don't worry
But I'm serious though
Be grateful for your health
Your health
Your mental health
And I think what she's saying is
Is the time that she had 30 years
That she's had to accept
And let go that it's different
Yeah
And I think that it's something that
Again that we all struggle with
Is acceptance that things change
Life changes
Sometimes you can't
get it back there's a lot of siblings out there and people who grow up that probably like as geoffrey
said from the sibling effect you know probably it's best for them not to be have a relationship you know
that might be too heavy to play on this no way i think it's important by the way that people even
hear her story you know because how many people are probably going through situations like this
and maybe there's some comfort there
I'm sorry Whitney
we love you
let's see
hello Oliver and Kate
nice I got
I got first billing again
wins wins wins wins
I am so enjoying your podcasts
love you
both professionally and your family
from years of snippets
into the wonder of your love for each other
I'm a mom to two boys
and a motherless daughter
since the age of 14.
My oldest is turning 14 in January,
and I've been struggling with knowing
how to be a mother to him.
I have nothing to use in his example
for these teenage years.
Being an only child brings its own challenges
to parenting siblings,
so I really thank you for this podcast.
It's so interesting to hear
about sibling relationships,
and I find it so comforting.
That's interesting.
She's an only child, but has multiple kids,
her mother passed away when she was 14 she has a daughter and doesn't really know what to do i wonder what
happened i wonder if she was who she was raised by or for dad or i don't know but that's i've never
thought of that actually i mean being an only child and then having multiple kids it's sort of like
oh shit how do i deal with this dynamic yeah and then on top of it she has a 14 year old girl
I think it's funny, it goes back to so many, so many people that I've talked to through the years, sort of whether they be professionals or, oh, sorry, 14 year old boy, my bad.
Or spiritual, you know, guidance or what have you. But I think in a moment like that, that's when your kids become your teachers and you have to like, I mean, I know that when I'm out of my comfort zone and something, I look to the lesson. I look to them to guide me.
do you know and i think that if you're tuned into that i mean clearly i mean as a mother you're
not going to let your kids get into the kind of trouble that you want them you're you know you're
going to parent them but like understanding their dynamic is you're going to learn with them
and it's just such a beautiful what a beautiful healing life experience for for her what about
her 14 year old boy 14 year old boys i mean we were just talking about
Ollie and I were just talking about middle school, and so that would mean that he was in
eighth or ninth grade. So he's kind of coming out of that really crazy. I mean, for me,
middle school is the hardest because kids are really trying to figure it out. It's kind of
all over the place. When they get into high school, it starts to kind of even out a little bit.
You start to understand your friend groups or your social circle in your social circles.
but it's also when kids can really try to individuate from their parents.
So if you have a challenging relationship with them,
they kind of start to push you away a little bit more.
Again, I think if I was sitting with her right now,
I would say just always remind your kids that that's who they have.
Like we always talk about that.
Like those are your siblings.
Like when I'm long gone and she knows,
how lucky are you that you always get to have your sibling?
I you never had that experience so you know what a what a gift she's given her kids right right
god 14 year old boys teenage boys it's a thing it's a real thing this is from nick hello
excuse my random subject was my favorite pun idea ha ha anyways i wanted to thank you all
i got first billing on this one kate oliver and co who for doing this show i can't
to express enough the gratitude I have for the gift of honest sibling communication you have given my siblings and I. I'm the oldest of four. We have two older siblings. We lost our dad when I was eight. I can't take this stuff. I'm too emotional. My son is 16 today and I'm
It's real life. It's sad. I'm not sad. I'm happy sad. Just let it out.
Shut up.
and my youngest brother was eight months
oh when the dad died
this obviously created
special bonds between us as siblings
and until now
we've never articulated or reflected
on the honest emotions surrounding our sibling
relationships
my sister and I
the Kate and Oliver of our family are very close now
and have had some of the deepest conversations
we've ever had reflecting on episodes of your podcast.
This makes me so happy.
Oh.
I'm trying not to cry.
But it makes me feel good.
Because it's like everything, like everything we have in life is our connections and our family.
Oh.
Okay.
This is just gay cries.
This is the episode
Where I just cried
The whole time
Okay
The best reason I have
For us feeling safe
To talk about these things
Is your honest sharing
Of your own experiences
And the stories of your guests
Sounds silly writing this out
Because we don't know
Either of you personally
And have no connection
Other than
Our shared sibling experiences
How powerful is that?
Very powerful, Nick
I could go on
But I think you see where I'm coming from
You're both awesome
I can't wait to hopefully visit
A live event
When you're both in Chicago
Let's go to Chicago
Love and positive vibes
To you both
And the sibling revelry team
Revelon
I love who is this
I know
We're going to invite him to the show
I like him a lot
By the way Revelon
Neck
Maybe we get Revlon to sponsor
the show
Nick that is so
meaningful thank you
I want Nick to come hang
maybe we
win our live shows you know
we're going to get people to come up and
talk to them a little bit
if you got the courage maybe we'll get you up on stage for a couple
minutes I love hearing that though
so much I know we've talked about it before
and in the New Year's episode a little bit
but just how we set out to do one thing
and then you know
to be a
able to sort of touch people like that you know even if it's nick and a few of these few people it's just
so fucking cool i know and it's it's such a great feeling to know this is the coolest thing i've
done in my whole career people really understand it is even more than how we understood what we were
trying to do that it's that the connection it also makes me feel even closer to my brother who which one
you oh although i did talk to wya today i feel like he's coming up there and like number
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oh thank you so this is from a girl named jennifer a poem i wrote about losing my brother
we were two and a half years apart he's older than me we were best of friends it's coming up
to 17 years now and i still hurt as much as i did that day thank you for this podcast it has touched
me in so many ways i just cannot explain hold on so dearly to each other love and protect each other
fiercely for those of us who cannot anymore so here's the poem it's long but it's good poignant real it's a question
that's been asked of me by so many the last ten years why the night of new year's eve fills my eyes with
tears the answer could seem simple for why all those eaves i've cried but how do i put it simply to you
it's the night my brother died christmas night 2002 six months
since our mum passed I lay in bed with an ache in my heart wondering how we would both last in the eyes of the world we were adults 18 and 21 but the truth was we were like two little scared kids and lonely after losing our mum for me my pain was obvious I hurt I spoke I cried but Dave was a guy and they're different he kept his pain inside his friends all tried to comfort him but he'd laugh and give them cheek joking
his way from ease to ice to prove he wasn't weak. Between Christmas night and New Year's Eve is
where we really came unstuck. Like a train wreck right in front of my eyes, I watched my brother
self-destruct. We were fighting over the smallest things over those six short days. I told so many
I feared this was it. They told me to trust God and pray. Five days after Christmas, in that week,
I called the blues. I sat him down and begged him to stop.
but it was a battle I knew I'd lose.
He told me how much he loved me
and I knew deep down it was true.
He said, I'll stop next year, I swear.
Don't be scared, sis.
It's me and you.
Me and you against the world.
Those words he said, I'll never forget.
Who would believe in a few short days
it would be me with a heart full of regret?
New Year's Day came around.
I remember it oh so clear.
Don't go away, sis.
Stay with me so we can party and see.
in the new year. The words I said next haunt me still. I don't care if it's selfish. I'm going away.
I'm sick of running around after you, Dave, so no, I'm not going to stay. He bribed me with smiles,
chocolate and more, but it was useless. I'd made up my mind. I'm going to port, so if you don't
want to come, then I'll just leave you behind. I can't go, sis. I've asked our friends here,
so I'll meet you at Steve's the next day. He gave me a hug as tight as he, as he
can be kissed my cheek and went on his way i jumped in the car with my then boyfriend mitch to make
our way up the coast when halfway there what i saw in my mind to this day i haven't told most like an awful
dream while wide awake in a hospital bed i lay tubes coming out of my nose and throat standing over me
my brother dave he was crying standing there holding my hand begging me not to die you have to know
how much I love you, he said, as the tears poured out of his eyes. It was like a vision, but felt
so real. I honestly believed it was true. So I grabbed the phone and sent a text, I love you,
I know you love me too. I'm sorry we've been fighting so much. I know it's because we're both
sad. With me and you against the world, I know 2003 can't be bad. When I hit send, I did it
because I thought my premonition would come true,
and I needed to know if that were the case,
our last words, were I love you.
We pulled up at Steve's at 20 past nine,
and quite clearly I didn't die.
Every ten minutes checking my phone,
but I never got a reply.
Happy New Year, we all said at 12,
had a drink, and went to bed.
I remember I even laughed to myself
that I seriously thought I'd be dead.
I woke up at three and anxious thought,
thinking was my brother all right once again i checked my phone but still there was no reply i remember
feeling angry then unloved and torn apart for in that message i sent to him i'd completely poured out my heart
how could he be so cruel to me and not even say a happy new year with that thought i just closed my
eyes fell asleep on a pillow of tears six 20 a m my brother steve came in saying jen get out of bed
I laughed, rolled over to go back to sleep, thinking surely he's messing with my head.
Again, he came in with a serious tone.
Jen, please get up, out of bed.
So up, I sat, put both feet on the ground, rubbed my eyes.
They were tired and red.
Slowly stood up and crept out the room, stepping over my niece on the floor,
yawning I made my way into the hallway and into Steve's room next door.
He was sitting on his bed, a strange look on his face.
Lorraine had her back to me.
He patted the bed for me to sit down,
grabbed my hand and gave it a squeeze.
I looked at his face, eyes filled with tears,
and instantly I knew.
Those last few weeks,
what I'd feared most on his face,
I read it, came true.
Holding my hand with a quivering voice,
he spoke words that shattered my heart.
It's Dave, he's in the hospital,
we need to get down there fast.
He kept saying words,
I don't know what they were.
I remember ambulance and revive. He's in a bad way in ICU, the machines keeping him alive.
I got in the shower, naked and bare. There are no words to describe my pain. I fell on the floor
rocking back and forth as my tears ran down the drain. God, I said, you wouldn't, you can't. You
know he is my life. You already have mum. Is that not enough? I need him to survive. We got in the car
to make our way down to Sydney, just me and Steve. Not knowing what to
expect once there the whole thing was so hard to believe a five-hour drive made in just over three but it felt
like it went for years waiting with angst to see our sweet brother our eyes always filling with tears
we pulled up to the hospital parked the car walked quickly to the door no amount of bracing ourselves
could prepare us for what we saw stepped out of the elevator and into a room that was full of our
family every voice went quiet as i stepped into the room tear filled my eyes all staring at me hugs and embraces tears and
questions circled around the place everyone trying so hard to be strong but fear was on every face
steve took my hand rod took the other as we walked to the room where he lay there on the bed tubes down his
throat was our precious brother dave i grabbed his hand i cried to god wake him up god don't let him die
It's Jen. Can you hear my voice? If you can, just open your eyes. For six long days in and out, people would come and go. For six long days, I held his hand, whispered, I'll never let you go. For six long days, I'd sing to him, I'd read to him, I'd cry. For six long days, I'd pray to God. God, please don't let him die. For six long days, I waited to hear the words that he'll be all right. But on day six, I heard the words, we're turning it off. It's time.
We said goodbye to our precious Dave like six months before to our mother.
I fell to my knees, asked God, how will I cope in this world without my big brother?
So that, my friends, is the story of why I cry on New Year's Eve.
It is the night all those years ago we lost the Dave out of Jen, Dave, Rod, and Steve.
yeah
oh
wow
beautiful
yeah I read this
this was sent a little while ago
it's heartbreaking
in November
it was just yeah
and such a wonderful
it's long
but I think it was good to share
and
Jennifer
right
and I hope you hear that.
And so many people, unfortunately, have suffered similar scenarios, you know.
And 17 years and that's still, I mean, how could that ever leave, you know?
Well, it's true, too.
Like, why do you get sad on New Year's Eve?
I mean, oh.
Yeah.
Thanks for listening.
I think that the power, the power of.
our relationships and you know it's like we we need to honor these things because they just
inform everything about how our lives function and who we are and who we become and
that's a sad it's a sad story it is a sad story and um then there's a lot of people who've had
tragic sad stories and yet you know you you share that and you realize that you can come through
those things and it doesn't mean that it ever goes away it just means that there's a healing process
and that we can you know how will i ever survive and yet she survives and write something that
i hopefully will be powerful and have impact for people who have just heard that exactly and that's
why i wanted to read it i mean it was just when i read it i was crying my eyes out i had to you know
of course forward it to you i had to you know we read that i read that in november i think
so oh it's just so beautiful but jennifer thank you and thank you jennifer i know that when
i hear you know there's like comforting and inspiring you know and i think that i always say
you know some people everybody is their opinion like oh you know a is like i look at like you know
things like AA or Hoffman or these groups that are formed that are like support groups and
that's like you know what it's so nice to share with people who've experienced the same things
especially in tragedy or challenges or things that are to have a group of people that you
can actually talk to or share with that find something so relatable it's so important you know
We need to tell our stories.
And keep sending those submissions, you know, to sibling submissions at gmail.com.
Love reading them.
Sibling submissions.
Sibling submissions at gmail.com.
I read.
And share happy and sad.
I mean, you know, I mean.
Happy and sad.
Oh, that, by the way, the crazy, crazy shit, too.
I love, love that stuff.
I've read everyone.
Kate's busy.
I've read everyone.
You're such a liar.
He is not read
I love reading them
I love you
Love you too
I love sharing these emails
With everybody
I hope
You loved it too
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Sibling Revelry
Is executive produced
by Kate Hudson, Oliver Hudson, and Sim Sarna.
Supervising producer is Alison Bresnick.
Editor is Josh Windish.
Music by Mark Hudson, aka Uncle Mark.
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Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts. Introducing IVF disrupted, the Kind Body Story.
a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care.
It grew like a tech startup.
While Kind Body did help women start families,
it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients.
You think you're finally, like, in the right hands.
You're just not.
Listen to IvyF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story,
on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
This is an IHeart podcast.
Thank you.