Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Kate's Brothers From Another Mother (Part 2)

Episode Date: March 16, 2025

In part 2 with Kate Hudson's "Running Point" co-stars, Drew Tarver and Scott MacArthur, they talk about how quickly things got 'personal.' Plus, find out why Oliver was worried about Kate when she too...k on the 'Running Point' role. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:42 And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling rivalry. No, no. Sibling rivalry. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling
Starting point is 00:03:05 Rivalry. That's good. Ladies and gentlemen, this is part two of sibling rivalry. Fine. I guess. Okay. Sibling, Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Comedy, you're doing a comedy. How much did you actually dive into sort of the emotional aspects of what the show was in the relationships, you know, because did you talk about that? Did you have to track that at all or was just pure funny, you know? Was there, was there moments where you have to talk about sort of, wait a minute, this is what I feel like there's deeper shit. Well, let me give me, let me give you an example of I think that it wasn't necessarily talked about as much as it was what was happening.
Starting point is 00:03:56 I'm going to say my, how I feel about it. Like, when we started. we immediately went deep into the things in our life personally together, whether it be, you know, over our dinners or having drinks, like we would go there, whether it be relationships, family stuff, like there was always sort of a balance of fun and like the real things that were going on in our lives
Starting point is 00:04:23 or have gone on our lives. On set, the moments that were important to us was, like everything could be funny but the things that we were trying to figure discover with each other were the beats that I think are the most important things which is you know the connective tissue yes who really are we together
Starting point is 00:04:43 what is the overall you know what are we trying like what what are we really trying to achieve and for all of us it's like being validated by the other person I mean I know for me it was like I just wanted them to love me and to see that I could do do this.
Starting point is 00:05:00 You're Elmo. You know that character, that Muppet, Elmo? Yeah, of course. Yeah, it was like eight years before they figured out his hook and his hook finally was he just wanted to hug.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Yeah, just like, right. But we had this moment. You kind of look like Elmo. We had this moment after the pool scene, which for people who haven't seen I don't want to ruin it, but we're sitting at the bar
Starting point is 00:05:21 and we're shooting this scene and it's this really sweet scene and it's sort of like, you know, I have a line that said, dad really did a number on us, didn't he? But in that moment between the takes, not to put anybody in any, like, you know, we had a moment where we talked about family, our own families growing up. And I started to cry. And then Scotty started, we all just basically started to cry. But in the scene,
Starting point is 00:05:47 you're crying. Right, right. But next thing you know, we had this thing, at least for me, which was a very profound deep connection of we've all had a certain level of trauma that you would never think we would tap into in the show. You know what that does, though? If it's not on screen, it allows you to be safe on screen and saying and doing whatever you feel because you've had an experience off camera that has depth. And energetically, you can feel it because there's a closeness.
Starting point is 00:06:21 I think that's important. yeah and and yeah i i think to step that out i kind of wish it was more like that in our day to day lives with everybody which is like listen i don't know what your experience is you don't know what my experience is i don't want to play the game of who's had it worse by any stretch i personally feel like i probably had it really really great yeah but i've still had some shit sure that that fucks me up yeah and whether it fucks me up i mean my brother and i grew up in the same household like we're different human beings right the things that i you know the moments i remember i'm like that was a really tricky night he'd be like what are you talking about yeah but then the shit that he
Starting point is 00:07:00 has i'm like i don't even remember that so so let's start with the baseline of like you just all gone through some shit that's the theme i'm gonna cut you some slack until i realize you're you're consciously trying to hurt or offend me on a routine level yeah and then i'm gonna be like hey man we're not good and i'm out yeah it's a theme that we've experienced on this whole show, which is each sibling has a completely different perspective on how they were raised, just like you said, being like, that fucked me up. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I don't even know what you're saying. I have a completely different perception and it manifested completely differently for me than it did for Oliver. Yeah. Because we're not
Starting point is 00:07:39 really here. Yeah, it's all an illusion. Yeah, it's all in a ball of fire. We, yes. But like Kate was say, like I think there was a softness, a media, despite us like doing you know giving each other shit and stuff i there was like a tenderness i mean to the to the characters too they're trying to get whoever to take them seriously whether it's you us me the you know entire family uh and i think you know you're you kind of hold on to that you're pushing that through the entire season right and then moments where you're the character is like they can't do it anymore and they just break down like or it's too hard I'm going to like I have to show some vulnerability with my family right here and they're going to
Starting point is 00:08:30 you know like this particular family is like okay like you know a little whether they accept it or not I think like the writing was so good that it was like okay I'm clearly like trying to hold on to it trying to hold on to it you're basically just like not trying to cry the entire season that's right like you're just like I'm not going to cry I'm not going to cry I'm not going to cry I'm not going to cry I'm not going to cry And then, like, your, your character is done. Like, he can't, like, hold it or she can't hold it anymore. It's funny because I saw Scotty get welling up in inappropriate situations in the show. I got flagged on that.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Did you actually? Yeah, I quit coming to be. Because I'm not making a joke. Like, there's moments where I'm looking, because it's like a three of you or something. And all of a sudden, Scott is sort of in the background. I'm like, what the fuck? It's like, what is happening right now? This doesn't seem right.
Starting point is 00:09:19 I mean, it's awesome to watch. the emotion, but I'm like, what is going on? I think for me, my biggest laugh in the show is in the conference room with the cocoa line. Cocoa line is so funny. It's just. They flew that line and that, you know, they flew that in, though, like take five, but I think it's partly, there were some takes of that where the crying was too real. There was something that Fabrizio said, Jackie. And, I mean, talk about someone who just, like, really just puts their heart out there.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Yeah, he just breaks every bone in your body that kid. And he would say something, and this makes it sound like, I mean, I come, you know, dad, mom, stepdad, like big family, people always around, like, the whole thing. He would, the way he would say, every time he did this take, and he would say, like, you know, like, it's just for a long time, I guess my whole life or something, it was just me and my mom. Yeah. Every time he said it. Oh, dude. Every time he said it, it genuinely made me cross. So vulnerable.
Starting point is 00:10:17 And you know, like, you know, I mean, we're all after this. The night before, when you read like, Ollie cries, you think like, fuck, how am I going to do this? Yeah. Right? And I, you know, like, that's just always a concern. And then at some point you're like, well, I can, I can trust the process or there could be a menthol state. You never want to call for menthol. And sometimes you got to mind.
Starting point is 00:10:38 I love calling for a month. You don't? As long as you can smoke it. Yeah. Yeah, you just will find different ways in, you know, whatever that thing is. Yeah. Fuck it. It's boring to talk about.
Starting point is 00:10:48 But it never has happened. where it was always one actor saying the same phrase for like eight takes in a row broke me every time Yeah. Hold on what was the line. It was like you know forever was just me and my mom It was just the two of us. There is a cut of that scene that we had to cut down because it was just
Starting point is 00:11:05 It just the the episode was getting too long That is so Like if he's great and what you see And you feel it there's one cut That is just this we cut that perform his performance it's like so amazing yeah and um sure he's going to be happy to hear that no no no because it still is it still is so great but you know like any edit you know you have to cut the fat but like if you were just if we could do like if you could do an edit of certain scenes
Starting point is 00:11:38 that we had to cut down that's one of them that was just hard to cut as much fat as we had to out of it you know he he's so good in that scene everybody's great in that scene and then when I was going through the edit of that there's there's I was laughing as you were talking because Justin's single there's on it watching it while he's
Starting point is 00:12:00 Fabrizio's doing the thing is so funny because he's just it's so funny look in the cut where it's like I saw it looked like a Bentley dealership and you guys like yeah
Starting point is 00:12:11 it's like it is a little like it is it kind of is it's like watching everybody's singles in that what is was just, I can't even, I wish, I wish we can show that to, you know, once you
Starting point is 00:12:25 get to know the characters, it's like you fall in love with them, then you can just watch the single on them the whole time. It's just everyone's so in the pocket. Even when the scene after the pool, when he walks up to you and he, his character really breaks and your character finds out for the first time
Starting point is 00:12:43 that he's had a boyfriend. Yeah. Right. There, there, I had, because we've just gone in the pool in which your sister, I'm pointing at Oliver. It's very hard to say Oliver because he's wearing a unicorn suit. Kate's in some sort of blur jump suit
Starting point is 00:12:58 within my crisscrossed jeans over the top. Drew and I look like normal accountants. These are the two accountants. This is the one where she interviews the accountants. But we're walking up where our characters have just been in a pool and I was soaking wet and I said let's call back the fact
Starting point is 00:13:15 that I get called out for having European underwear earlier in the season. so I put on this like little red speedo and I get myself drenched and then I look over and Drew's quiet and he's taking a moment before this scene where he's going to happen and I became very conscious of like
Starting point is 00:13:31 I can't self-conscious of like I don't want to take him out of his thing right but then maybe the real of this would be like I don't think Ness would give a shit that his brother's in a thing and how do you do this and credit to Drew is he was he was private it and then we got going in the first couple takes i think i just had my robe open so my speedo
Starting point is 00:13:52 and drew just kind of turned and i don't know if he clocked it or not but it didn't take him out right you know because he's this improviser like to this ump degree where it's like yes and it's not going to be like dude your speedo took me out of my thing what the fuck yeah right so it's that kind of trust of like and if it does then then i would never do it right that trust of performers, I think so it started as people, and then it goes to performers, and then it comes out as characters. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Yeah, but it's interesting because you're witnessing a process that you haven't really witnessed because usually it's all funny and funny and funny, but now you have to get into a space. And now you're like, oh, I haven't dealt with this yet. Like, how do I deal with it in my cool? Can I still joke with you? Totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's definitely like, I mean, but the, I think,
Starting point is 00:14:43 I want in that scene if I can like, okay, I'm gonna go try to get to this place. You know, it's a difficult thing. You walk in. You have to like, and you're also trying to figure out the tone. Like, should I, how, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:57 should this be like, full real? Will that be too much? Is it, you know, what's, how does, is this going to look in the whole big picture of everything? But it's like,
Starting point is 00:15:08 I don't know. I just like, I trust everybody who's making this show and they'll find it. Like, or they'll tell me if like they'll walk in and be like that was too much or that's not enough or whatever but I think like the it was so funny to me like to really do it and then have you guys kind of like pat me and you're like if you're in a stupid speedo it's funnier or like all of that
Starting point is 00:15:32 adds to because that's what it feels like in real life you know you're crying at these times where it's like, oh my God, I'm crying now, like, and it's so funny. Yeah. You don't, you know, like, you want all those, you know, like those laughs right next to the cries are so good. Yes. It's so important. It's so, and it's so hard.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Yeah. Like that's, I think that's the tone that's hard to capture. Yeah. And, you know, it's like what you're all, it's my favorite tone, you know. It's like when you're. laughing through tears that actually pull at you in a real way, not in a like fake and not, you know, not in like a,
Starting point is 00:16:16 not in like a contrived way, you know. And narratively, though, that is our families, right? Yeah. At least I think, yeah, most people, like, I remember my dad, when my dad hears the national anthem, he cries. Yeah. He can listen to it six times in a row. He's going to cry six times in a row.
Starting point is 00:16:34 And most people, like if you're at a ball game or something, and you're with them. Most people will look over and see it. He's a giant man. And they'll look over and they'll be like, oh my God. When my mom is with us, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:47 people will be like, Shelley, you know, they've been divorced for 41 years. But they'll be like, oh my God, Shelley, is he crying?
Starting point is 00:16:53 She'll be like, oh, Jesus Christ. Right. I want to get popcorn. Right. It's just like, oh, fuck this shit. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Yeah. And there's family, right. Or familiarity to the level of family. Right. Like, and I think to capture that on screen, I mean, I think the writing
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Starting point is 00:22:20 Outside of Savannah, rural, small town. Right. Tell Oliver what your family does. My dad runs a candy factory. Oh my God, yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. were in Greece together. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:36 We did. Don't tell Scotty. We didn't tell him about that. You mean that restaurant on sunset called Greece? He was in Greece nearby. We didn't even tell it. It's true. Yeah, he was in Athens.
Starting point is 00:22:46 We were like, hey, let's get out. I really love you guys were either at the restaurant or you were literally sitting in a tub of grease. But yeah, like my granddad started it. My dad took it over like I maybe should have. You probably know. Everybody was like, you're leaving to
Starting point is 00:23:04 do what? Are you insane? But it is, so as someone who was married to someone from Georgia, Ryder's grandpa, Dodge, God rest his soul, used to send me those pecan
Starting point is 00:23:20 caramel, caramel chocolates every Christmas. And this Christmas was the first time I had gotten sent again. Oh, wow. Or, was it Christmas? Yeah, I think so, yeah. I got sent again the same, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:34 chocolates from your family's candy factory. But what did your family think when you're like, no, fuck candy? I'm going to go be an actor. I think they were worried. My little sister, Caitlin, she had, she was like, my
Starting point is 00:23:51 sisters were the talented ones of the family. And they were like singers, dancers in every pageant, like. You're a performer as a family of performer. Yeah, like my, yeah, my... I mean, his dad really is secretly a performer. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:04 But my dad's like a painter. Like, my grandma was a painter. Like, there's something in there that, like, you know, you're so remote in these, this southern town that you're like, that's crazy. Like, we, I'm just going to work for dad. Like, eventually, like, I'm going to make, I'm going to make, I'm going to make candy, too. Right. Which was great.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Like, that's unbelievable. But my sister auditioned for a show the year after American Idol called American Juniors, which was a spinoff of American Idol after Kelly Clarkson won and she like made it to Hollywood and they flew the whole family out here and we all sat side stage while she sang every week and I was just kind of like we were all looking like we got to see the industry and we were like wait wait so I can like be loud and talk for a living like I kind of do that already at bonfires like I'm always
Starting point is 00:24:58 lunch line you know lunch line like that was definitely like I was like if I can kill in the lunch line. Like, I could maybe do this. So I think they were primed a little bit and they had seen how it was real. Got it. So it was let, they were like, let's, but I think, you know, like once you're five, six years into it and you're doing fine. Yeah. It's a little bit, you know, there, my mom was like, y'all go follow your dreams now.
Starting point is 00:25:24 And then it's like six years in and they're like, y'all still think about these dreams. Like, what are we thinking about these dreams? You know, like we share about dreams? should we like you know like dreams seem hard right right yeah so like but they were always you know they were never like stop doing it but they would maybe not push you but sort of bring it back into your yeah just i mean like my own brain would like they would you know did you ever think about quitting i mean i think i started i saw ucb the upright citizens Brigade like I saw a show there and I was like oh I I just want to do once I saw that I never
Starting point is 00:26:10 thought about it again like because I was like I just want to do the Monday night show yeah which is like the student you know show yeah if I can get on Monday nights which took me like three or four years of like constant sort of like banging on that door being like lunch line you know she thinks I'm funny and they're like you're not ready yet whatever but like I think just true. The goal was pretty, you know, local, I guess. So it was just kind of like, if I can get on Monday nights and people on Monday nights and Friday nights are working comedically and the writers or actors or whatever. Like, so I think once I saw that, I was like, I think I can get on Monday nights. Yeah. So that gave me enough validation in the classes at sort of like the indie comedy
Starting point is 00:26:57 nights where it's like, oh, I bombed like six weeks in a row. But then I had that great if I could just do that thing I did on week seven again. Yeah, you're like, yeah, like one great shot can bring you back. Yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:27:08 yeah, and were you working? I was like, how were you making money? I was working on a food truck. Yeah. I, I like would go to an office and like get on a two.
Starting point is 00:27:22 There was like a room of commercial actors and we all kind of did it. And you would like buy concert tickets on multiple computers. And some guys coming over with like a book. of credit cards being like, yeah, buy those Zach Bryans. No, don't worry about,
Starting point is 00:27:36 you know. He's a ticket. Yeah. He's a ticket. You can get it out. You know, but that's good value. Buy it also.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Exactly. Yeah. So I did that for a while. Definitely. But like also like I can't like my, I had my dad would like, if I was really struggling, like he would step in,
Starting point is 00:27:53 which was like, you know. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's, my parents would just be kind of be like,
Starting point is 00:28:00 we need to send. him $500 for dreams, you know? And it was like, that was, you know, very helpful. Yeah. Scotty, give the listeners out there a little bit, like you come from where you come from. No one knows who you are. Okay, great. And just, just, just, just, like, just, no knows where you came from. You're, you're from Chicago. Let's make some news. Now it's been built up, which is weird. Look, I'm from Chicago. I come from a very large family in Chicago. And that family is involved in a lot of a different industries, one of which is professional sports management, the Blackhawks, and, you know, other industries, you know, there's banking, there's liquor. It's all online. So you're right.
Starting point is 00:28:40 There's no, like, I think for me and the reason, and maybe now, particularly honestly after this show, because this is the first time I'm ever really playing a character that has any means that's not like borderline a psycho. I mean, even on the Mick, which was an album. We do have a season to. Things can go down. So it took, you know, I mean, it took, oh, God, it was 10, 10 plus years before I could really get in the door. And when I finally got in the door, it was as a writer on the Mick, and then I became
Starting point is 00:29:18 a character who was playing this low life degenerate, who, like, never went to high school, who lived in his van. And I lived in a van for a while. And I guess, depending on who you'd ask, there are times that I have been a degenerate. like Saturday night and I don't know. Yeah. But I think, you know, once that happened and I was like, okay, I finally broke through because it took whatever, be casting or, you know, production people, studios, writer, show,
Starting point is 00:29:47 to see me in a way, it's like they're like, well, this guy can play degenerate. He can play low life degenerate. And somehow, I guess I'm fangless when I get angry. So it's like he can also be really angry, but it's still funny. Yeah. I then became absolutely terrified to change that perception because I'm like, if this is my lane, I will stick in it. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Yeah. And so then to talk about coming from a, you know, a bigger family with means and to talk about going to, you know, some good schools. And I'm like, that is against the very thing that I'm now selling. I'm selling degeneracy, fangless, swamp dwelling guy. Right. still but still well still i think and that was a conversation i had a question mark at the end of that still still uh still no i mean still uh still no how you go still still still sibling sibling
Starting point is 00:30:44 revelry it's the b it's the first thing that then that becomes protective and it's not it's not necessarily ego base and i've done a lot of work on this in my garage late at night You need to bring a therapist in there No, just you kind of I've invited my therapist in my garage She just won't come voice messages
Starting point is 00:31:07 She won't come I'm like I'm not sure she'd You know it is a 3.30 am. voice message that he is in his garage Oh yeah Listen my garage is my last safe space But do you feel like with this role You're still walking down
Starting point is 00:31:23 You're still in that lane You deviated It's a weird thing because it's full of contradiction Yeah which is how I feel my own psyche is all the time. The thing is, is you, like, really went in on the craft
Starting point is 00:31:35 with your writing. You went to Russia and were in, like, drama school and dance. You did things that were so outside of what you knew as your foundation. So it mattered so much, I think, if I could speak for you as somebody who also
Starting point is 00:31:51 understands, like, you want people to know how much the craft means to you. You got to do the voice. If you're going to speak from me, do the voice. but I've got it in the voice I'll try I'm trying to do that but I think that that also probably is why you
Starting point is 00:32:08 have always been hesitant to like share because it's better to not it's like you don't want that to overshadow ever what you're doing how important the craft is to you maybe maybe I it's not so much
Starting point is 00:32:22 no it's not so much overshout I think the verb you use was break away. And I think if, if, if, and anyone in Chicago who knows my, my family, both on my mom and dad's side, right? Because I'm actually talking about one side or the other is there's so many, uh, artists. I mean, genuine. Like, you know, but they, they haven't necessarily gone to make their trade on their art. Right. But it is a very artistic family, which is interesting given that Drew's, both of his sisters are in it. And then obviously your entire extended family. I mean, When I was with you guys in the desert once,
Starting point is 00:32:57 I think I was talking to Kate about while they're going to do the movie with you. And I was like, are you guys flagging this stuff? Like, do you want yet another generation of people going into it as a trade? Yeah. Like, you know, like, is that, that? What are you going to do? No, what are you going to do? Right.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Well, hey, you got your brother. Yeah. So he always went into it. Right. Have you been, have you been jealous of his career ever? No. Never. Is he jealous of yours now that you kind of did something cool?
Starting point is 00:33:25 We've also been out here long enough that people get hot and people get cold and it comes around and it goes around. You just got to keep doing the work. You got to put your head down and keep doing the work. And I really do, I really do think that. And I think my brother and his wife were very helpful to me when, because I was out here. It's the same thing. It's like, where are you putting your goalposts to keep yourself intrinsically motivated? And you don't take those goalposts away from yourself.
Starting point is 00:33:57 So like the goal, you know, just to hear that's such a clean external specific goal. Like I want to be part of the Monday night show. Yeah. And then getting, it gives you purpose. It gives you drive. Yeah. And it gives you yardage, right? The thing that I found, given that I did spend so much time in academics, was like the yardage was the grades, right?
Starting point is 00:34:15 You get the A. It means as you. Then you go to art school or for me, theater school. Well, the yardage starts changing. Like the artist is like, can you lie on your back and cross? cry on cue. It's like, well, but everybody in the room could do that. I could never do that. Right. So like, then you start getting into a nebulous thing of like, how am I quote unquote doing well or being successful? You come out here, unless you do those external in things for
Starting point is 00:34:39 yourself, if the only yardage is you get a roll, you're fucked. Because you have no control over whether you get the role. You have control whether you're ready for the role, but you don't have control over whether you get them. No. And that took a while. And, on top of it, I was out here with a medium-length haircut frost my fucking tips for like 10 years. Really? Oh, yeah, because I was like, what's the role I have to play? You know, like, how do I have to work to get a job?
Starting point is 00:35:04 You know, when it's medium-linked. That's true. Yeah, that's a bad move. That's a bad move. Right. That's a bad thing. So, sorry. After you've hit that sort of
Starting point is 00:35:14 after you've hit that sort of benchmark of Monday. yeah did you set yourself another goal after that it's weird i'm going to say but he showed me in his journal he said i will be kate hudson's brother well i yeah it's very excited like it's wild i think you know coming through ucb you're like okay a lot of people i think the one-to-one here for doing live sketch is s and l like let's i i loved s&l i was like like like, oh, I think I could do that because I'm doing it here in a small way. I know that's much more difficult. But I think like that was sort of, once I was doing Monday nights, I was like, there's a lot of people or like, this is a way to gun for S&L.
Starting point is 00:36:12 So you like try that. And I think through, you know, throwing your hat in the ring every couple years and trying to get into a showcase and maybe you'll make it to New York and you're like, Like, you know, friends of yours are going and they're getting on and you're like, this is so cool. Like, it was so cool to be part of the group that was getting to try. And I was like, this is crazy that I'm in the group that's getting considered. Yeah. But I think like, you know, obviously that's a very tough show to get on. So.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Well, they missed out if they didn't, you know. You know. but Lorne produced the other two the last show I did which was unbelievable so I think you're just you're trying to knock at that door and you end up at other doors and you're like this is actually better for me or right for me now or whatever so I think you're just kind of
Starting point is 00:37:13 it was always just sort of like okay what's the next one year or two years whether that was like by design or just self-preservation or just sort of like and support well yeah like what you were saying like that i think that's the thing is like i always felt very supported by everybody in chicago right it wasn't like fuck you you're going to go out there then fuck you it was like hey man we are all here rooting for you yeah and support can mean many things it can be financial can mean emotional but truth truthfully like having people root for you while you're trying to do something means everything yeah and also because they know you love it but i think it's like i i i'm sitting here
Starting point is 00:37:51 listening to you both and then I think about how many people we've interviewed on this podcast and it's so amazing like the journey of a performer is so fucking weird and fucked up and wild because you love it so much and you want it so bad and it's the most like destabilizing insecure like tumultuous career you could seek because you're at the whim of somebody wanting you to be doing something. You're constantly putting yourself out there. You're constantly trying to get in in different ways that you can because you really actually love to perform. And when you get that bug or you have that bug, you can't explain it to anyone who doesn't have it how much it means to you. You know what I mean? Like if you don't have that
Starting point is 00:38:41 thing where you're like, oh my God, I love this so much and have to do this, nobody would ever understand why you would seek it out. It's so painful and rejecting and, you know, complicated. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, it's, it, it, it's always, I mean, don't you just want to get a real job, you know, you know, and have that stability, and, and, and, but it's, it's, it's always, it's always, I don't know, it's Hold on. Before we finish this, do you have acting notes for Scotty? He really means Scotty. You know, but you sit Scotty on full breath.
Starting point is 00:39:31 You went for Scotty and then be smaller on order. No, no, meaning, like, if you could give that, was there anything you would say, man, if you could let go of this or if you could add a little bit more of this as someone who is, you know, Kate Hudson looking at, would you say? If you can just let go more here, or if you could do this. Would you say anything to them? I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith, but there's an institution that doesn't lose faith.
Starting point is 00:40:23 And that's what I believe in. To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other, sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Bolivia. Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Your entire identity has been fabricated. Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace. You discover the depths of your mother's illness, the way it has echoed and reverberated throughout your life, impacting your very legacy. Hi, I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the profound and powerful stories I'll be mining on our 12th season of Family Secrets. With over 37 million downloads, we continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their courageously told stories.
Starting point is 00:41:28 I can't wait to share 10 powerful new episodes with you, stories of tangled up identities, concealed truths, and the way in which family secrets almost always need to be told. I hope you'll join me and my extraordinary guests for this new season of Family Secrets. The Family Secrets. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I had this overwhelming sensation that I had to call it right then. And I just hit call. I said, you know, hey, I'm Jacob Schick. I'm the CEO of One Tribe Foundation. And I just wanted to call on and let her know there's a lot of people battling some of the very same things you're battling. And there is help out there. The Good Stuff Podcast Season 2 takes a deep look into One Tribe Foundation,
Starting point is 00:42:14 a non-profit fighting suicide in the veteran community. September is National Suicide Prevention Month, so join host Jacob and Ashley Schick as they bring you to the front lines of One Tribe's mission. I was married to a combat army veteran, and he actually took his own mark to suicide. One Tribe saved my life twice. There's a lot of love that flows through this place, and it's sincere. Now it's a personal mission. Don't have to go to any more funerals, you know.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I got blown up on a React mission. I ended up having amputation below the knee of my right leg and a traumatic brain injury because I landed on my head. Welcome to Season 2 of The Good Stuff. Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia. We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and, and rifles, you name it. But what they find is not what they expected.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. They go, is this your daughter? I said yes. They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years. Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them, the women must decide who they're willing to protect
Starting point is 00:43:36 and who they dare to betray. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown Sting on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. Hola, it's HoneyGerman, and my podcast, Grasias Come Again, is back.
Starting point is 00:43:58 This season, we're going even deeper into the world of music and entertainment with raw and honest conversations with some of your favorite Latin artists and celebrities. You didn't have to audition? No, I didn't audition. I haven't auditioned in like over 25 years. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:44:12 That's a real G-talk right there. Oh, yeah. We've got some of the biggest actors, musicians, content creators, and culture shifters sharing their real stories of failure and success. You were destined to be a start. We talk all about what's viral and trending with a little bit of chisement, a lot of laughs, and those amazing Vibras you've come to expect. And of course, we'll explore deeper topics dealing with identity,
Starting point is 00:44:37 struggles, and all the issues affecting our Latin community. You feel like you get a little whitewash because you have to do the code switching? I won't say whitewash because at the end of the day, you know, I'm me. But the whole pretending and code, you know, it takes a toll on you. Listen to the new season of Grasasas Come Again as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. To be totally honest and candid, are you like, no, you just keep doing what you're doing. It's like, true, say.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Yeah. think about this for and for now honestly yes i know my initial thing my initial thing what a bear trap what a bear trap you've laid for your sister this is so great i love this because i'm only going to talk about scotty because i don't really have any initial things for drew but scotty has this thing i have to go it's been so much fun guys i love the no no you're gonna love this you're gonna love it scottie cares more than people would maybe think he does like in if you saw him out or talking when it like if you didn't know him
Starting point is 00:45:40 you would think he was nonchalant about his craft but it's the opposite he cares so much about the craft that sometimes you want to be like you don't have to work so hard right for this right now
Starting point is 00:45:56 love it yeah I went through it on this one and and with it and I think that like you know Ness his character on this tonally if he has to walk
Starting point is 00:46:07 line that has be you know i mean i've had everyone has their favorite characters crazy like people i come up to me and they're like oh oh god your brother sandy's so funny oh my god ness is my favorite like oh just like a you know cam everyone has the person that they connect to so so it resonates and it and you did it so well but in the process of doing it sometimes it it weighs on him and you want like if i was to say the thing that we say to to to to like the siblings which I think we should do at the end of this
Starting point is 00:46:42 but my thing to alleviate for him is the pressure he puts on himself to get it right like I would say get take I would I would try to alleviate that from him wow and nothing
Starting point is 00:46:56 yeah look at your face that was good that was really interesting that was good yeah because naturally you are so dead on yeah always yeah like it wouldn't ring nothing
Starting point is 00:47:07 you did would ring untrue to me and then you would be like, oh, fuck. That was amazing. It was amazing. You're not a mess on set. I'm not saying that. You're like, but you would be like that way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:23 It's a great note to hear because I have no defense against that note. And I don't, if I'm being totally honest, I hear it. I agree with you. And I don't know if I necessarily want to change it. You don't have to. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Well, you are my boss. You are an executive. I'm not asking you to. I'm just saying. It's interesting when I think of performers, which is why I love sitting with you and you and talk. Because you guys, obviously, having grown up in the entertainment world, you've crossed paths with just, you know, some all-timers. And so I'm always curious about that. I'm obsessed with process.
Starting point is 00:48:04 I'm not one who's going to sit there and pull his fingernails out because I think you have to go through pain or discomfort to get some. Actually, I think the realization I made with the help of an acting teacher Sharon Chatton once, which is it's about to let go. It's about the release. It's about the relaxation into it. But prior to
Starting point is 00:48:21 the let go, release and relaxation, yeah, there's consternation and strife for me. Right. Yeah, I think like, it's interesting. I think I would note myself similarly, I don't know how I come off, but like coming up I would be so intense about memorization.
Starting point is 00:48:37 And then also within that, doing comedy stuff being like, okay, so maybe I've done a ton of improv, which you can't think about, which I love because you just have to throw yourself out there and fall down the hill. And it either goes well or it doesn't, but you're like, you can't plan anything. But then when you start to put, you know, start doing scripted stuff and doing lines and doing, you know, whether it be sketches or whatever, you're like, you want to be. so you kind of like I would be super in set like like a little bit too much a little too intense about the memorization so I wasn't loose yeah at times so I would be like my next line is this my next line is this like so and then I would also kind of be like oh if they say that and they improvise that way I'll go that way too so I would have like you're pre-conceiving yeah that were like way too much and I wasn't listening
Starting point is 00:49:37 anymore and that would that that like is even though you knew you knew the lines yeah i didn't realize that when you were sometimes in a scene letting go is what makes it so good yeah right because your background as an improviser is you listen right like as an actor like day two i'm looking at him i'm like oh fuck he's really listening yeah he's not waiting to say his thing which is what's different about Scott's mouth to be their lines. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, honestly, people are like, what's it like to work with Kate?
Starting point is 00:50:16 And what is, is it the Muppet babies or Charlie Brown? But it's like someone at the principal's voice comes on, it goes like, well, well, it was what it's kind of like. I also open her mouth stops moving. Do you have any notes for Kate?
Starting point is 00:50:32 I'll take him. I don't. I mean, I have observations of, of both of them. And Drew, it was listening. I thought, uh,
Starting point is 00:50:41 I, I thought your thing was really interesting. I, I've, you know, we've all been around now a bit. I thought her thing was wild. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:50:48 oh, I, I, I hadn't seen that thing before. Which is like, take one is, yeah. Finding it.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Yeah. You know, as, as, as your wing person in that scene, I'm like, oh, fuck, does she know this scene?
Starting point is 00:50:59 Are we going to be going to be going to be going to find this? Yeah. And then it's like, take two, like, beep. Yep. And you're like, oh, what the fuck is that?
Starting point is 00:51:07 That's a different thing. Yeah, yeah. You know, like, you know, having, you know, we've all studied it. But, you know, yeah, that was unique. And it's great. It's organic. And it's like, you know, so I, that's what I love about this job is, you know, like, if you were a doctor and I am medically, I've read every page of WMMD.
Starting point is 00:51:27 So I actually have my medical license. I won't say what I'm going to say. If you go in, if you go in, if you're a cardiac pediatric cardiologist and you went in and you, we were going to get into the like, you know, aorta. And I saw him cut the aorta in a weird new way. Here we go. I want to be like, oh, this is so interesting the way that Dr. Drew cuts into the aorta. For the most part, everyone, like within a small variance. Yeah, that procedure is the same.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Right. That's it's so opposite of this. man. You go on sets like every time you get to work with someone, it's all so different. And then it's wild when like people who've worked a lot like you, I'm like, oh, I've never seen someone cut like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's wild because the result is the result. And, you know, I think it's for itself. And it's, yeah, I think it was great with like, like, uh, like, is this in the voice of the character? I think like on a sitcom, it can be like, joke joke joke joke joke joke joke joke joke per page joke per minute like and i think kate would
Starting point is 00:52:32 you know and i would sometimes as somebody who like performed a lot on stage i would be like give me as many jokes as i can that i can swing from so i'm not out there being unfunny for two lines or whatever uh and kate would kate did such a you were such a good like monitor on like why am i saying this why is he saying that like that doesn't make sense for the other stuff that we've set up for his character like the joke needs to change or it needs to be like more in line and I thought that was like super helpful
Starting point is 00:53:04 and like gave us all like very clear directions so we all just kind of weren't just yelling the funniest thing you could write you're thinking more you're thinking and one on the call sheet is the opposite of that which is just say the fucking joke so we can all get home yes it puts you in a bad spot when you're below that and you're like
Starting point is 00:53:22 I will that's my job but I think like this should have some investigation. Yeah. And so that's really helpful. And then you feel taken care of as a performer. When I read the script, my biggest concern for Kate was just making sure
Starting point is 00:53:38 that all the basketball lingo seemed real. Because you are a fucking queen here. You know basketball like the back of your fucking hand. And when I watched it, I'm like, oh my God, you're so money with it. Because that was my biggest concern was she's going to say all these things. And I'm like, Stasson is such a huge basketball, and Brenda.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Yeah. So like Brenda, I could just ask Brenda. Right. But even through your delivery, it was very easy. It was as if you had said it a thousand times. Oh, good. Because when I was reading the script, I'm like, oh, my God, like Kate's amazing and anything she does. But is she going to be able to, is it going to be believable when she's talking shop?
Starting point is 00:54:15 Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. It was great. It's the lingo. Yeah. Right. It's that Tom Hanks.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Be there on time, know what you're going to say and have an idea. Right. That's right. I love that. that's my favorite thing it's the best you said that and then and it came i think we were to we're all having drinks and you said that we were having drinks at one point and then it came up on my feed it's not weird like the actual clip because it's listening that's why i don't like
Starting point is 00:54:39 to talk about real things they're all listening okay you guys we could talk about this i mean this has been a long time i love you i'm gorge rammo Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith, but there's an institution that doesn't lose faith, and that's what I believe in.
Starting point is 00:55:24 to bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other, sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I had this overwhelming sensation that I had to call it right then, and I just hit call.
Starting point is 00:55:57 I said, you know, hey, I'm Jacob Schick. I'm the CEO of One Tribe Foundation, and I just wanted to call on and let her know. There's a lot of people battling some of the very same things you're battling, and there is help out there. The Good Stuff Podcast, Season 2, takes a deep look into One Tribe Foundation, a nonprofit fighting suicide in the veteran community. September is National Suicide Prevention Month, so join host Jacob and Ashley Schick as they bring you to the front lines of One Tribe's mission. I was married to a combat Army veteran, and he actually took his own life to suicide. One Tribe saved my life twice.
Starting point is 00:56:30 There's a lot of love that flows through this place, and it's sincere. Now it's a personal mission. I don't have to go to any more funerals, you know. I got blown up on a React mission. I ended up having amputation below the knee of my right leg and the traumatic brain injury because I landed on my head. Welcome to Season 2 of the Good Stuff. Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your
Starting point is 00:56:51 podcast. Hola, it's Honey German, and my podcast, Grazacus Come Again, is back. This season, we're going even deeper into the world of music and entertainment with raw and honest conversations with some of your favorite Latin artists and celebrities. You didn't have to audition? No, I didn't audition.
Starting point is 00:57:07 I haven't audition in, like, over 25 years. Oh, wow. That's a real G-talk right there. Oh, yeah. We've got some of the biggest actors, musicians, content creators, and culture shifters sharing their real stories of failure and success. You were destined to be a start.
Starting point is 00:57:25 We talk all about what's viral and trending with a little bit of chisement, a lot of laughs, and those amazing Vibras you've come to expect. And of course, we'll explore deeper topics dealing with identity, struggles, and all the issues affecting our Latin community. You feel like you get a little whitewash because you have to do the code switching?
Starting point is 00:57:43 I won't say whitewash because at the end of the day, you know, I'm me. Yeah? But the whole pretending and code, you know, it takes a toll on you. Listen to the new season of Grasasas, again as part of my culture podcast network on the iHeart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast the super secret bestie club podcast season four is here and we're locked in that means more juicy chisement terrible love advice evil spells to cast on your ex no no no we're not doing that this season oh well this season we're leveling up each episode will feature a special
Starting point is 00:58:16 bestie and you're not going to want to miss it get in here today we have a a very special guest with us. Our new super secret bestie is the diva of the people. The diva of the people. I'm just like text your ex. My theory is that if you need to figure out that the stove is hot, go and touch it. Go and figure it out for yourself.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Okay. That's us. We're with the heck. That's us. My name is Curley. And I'm Maya. In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendship, heart breaks, men, and of course, our favorite secrets.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club. as a part of the Marco Tura podcast network available on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia. We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it. But what they find is not what they expected. Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. They go, is this your daughter?
Starting point is 00:59:26 I said yes. They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years. Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them, the women must decide who they're willing to protect and who they dare to betray. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand and I saw the flash of light.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Listen to the Chinatown Stang on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. Okay. Brothers. Yes. We're going to do a rapid fire. Ollie, maybe you become the interviewer for us as show siblings. Okay. So, and then make things up.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Okay. wait so you want me to ask them what they think of like if i say okay is kate early bird or night owl both i mean she doesn't sleep yes but what do i prefer oh night out night out right what are i am a morning person really you are great in the morning you don't know she's wrong well that that's it that's a good that's a good game that's a good game no not we have to be, what are you? Your TV brothers will say what they think and then I'll see what I think
Starting point is 01:00:53 and see who gets more. I, I, like, I, if I didn't have kids, I probably would be more of a night owl. Yeah, you don't really like, it's like 4 a.m. Like, you're like, no, you know, I like my bed.
Starting point is 01:01:06 When she was little, she's like, ready for bed, you know, boom, dot. Yeah, like, I could have a party and rage by like 1145 midnight. I'm like, I'm like in bed. I just let the party go. Right. Big time night owl.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Yeah. In fact, the last time I was with both of you and we were imbibing, you disappeared at 11. Oh, yeah. And I stayed out with you. By the way, it was 9.45. Kate had a good 38 minutes of being hammered. And she's like, we're going to fucking party. Get the poker chips out.
Starting point is 01:01:36 And then we're like, where is Kate? My wife came out on the deck and was like, I'm heading back. And I was like, oh, you are? And she's like, well, everyone inside like, you know, it's petering out. Kate went to bed. I was like, what do you mean Kate went to bed? It's like 930. And then she's like, I'm heading back.
Starting point is 01:01:50 You can stay. And I just looked over at Oliver, who just looking at me, he's like, you can stay as long as you want. I was like, I better to stay, man. This guy wants someone to talk to. No, but yeah. Okay. Next. Sweet.
Starting point is 01:02:05 So what we got to do to everybody else? Oh. Night owl. Drew's a night owl. Scottie's a night owl. Scott is a night owl. We've already established. This is a far.
Starting point is 01:02:13 I'm not like that. Sweet or savory. Oh. Oh. Interesting. That's a Kate is savory. Yeah, I'm. No, I'm going to guess you.
Starting point is 01:02:24 You're a savory. Yes. And you're... I don't know what savory means. You're lying. I'm going to say you're a... Oh. I think he's sweet.
Starting point is 01:02:39 I think he's savory because of his drink choices. Ew, you're just sweet drinks? Are you a sweet? Savory? I'm going to say, savory. Although I want to, my gut is saying sweet. I kind of like them both.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm not like sacred about that kind of thing. And you're savory. I'm savory. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay. These are weird for...
Starting point is 01:03:07 Use your wonderful brain that has ideas. Yeah, just make shit up for us. Oh, okay. Bruce Springsteen or the Beatles. Oh. Don't say what, do we have to say what each other is. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:20 You're Bruce. I'm going to venture to say I think everybody in this room is Bruce. I think everybody's a Bruce. No way. I don't know that much. I don't know that much.
Starting point is 01:03:30 You said everyone in this room. Yeah, I thought we were talking about him. He was looking at it. Oliver, too. Okay, fine. That's interesting. Oliver is definitely a beetle. For sure.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Yeah, I think I'm better in a group. I'm beetle. Like, you know, are you Bruce? So we're Bruce. Are you Bruce or Beatle or do you like Bruce? But I'm putting that into it. Now, we're better.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Yeah, who would you rather turn on and listen to? Right. Yeah, I put on Bruce, but I also put on the Beatles. I mean, I love that they're the Beatles. But I'd put on Bruce. Bruce makes me weepy and makes me want to write. Yeah, Bruce makes, I looked at Bruce Springsteen as a kid. I was like, that motherfucker would be dead if he wasn't doing this.
Starting point is 01:04:05 It was this or death. And that was like an early flag where I was like, I want to do something like that. Yeah. And if I could do that, I would have, but I could not do that. It's so true. And it's just like you just feel his soul. You feel it. And there's, and it's, it doesn't even matter whether or not you like them musically.
Starting point is 01:04:22 There's other artists that are like that where I don't necessarily like to listen to them. I don't even like what they do. But I'm like, it was this or death. Okay. Ready? Are you going? I'm going to ask one. Go.
Starting point is 01:04:33 For everybody to guess about everybody else. Okay. Theater. Concert. I mean, what would you rather go to? I mean, I know yours. You're, you're a concert. Your concert.
Starting point is 01:04:45 I think you might be. Theater is musical theater, too. Yeah. And comedy. You did love that Moana I put on my garage for you. It was nice. I did a one-man show of Moana. I want to say concert.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Concert, for sure. I would like to see music where the seats are laid out. You know what I mean? I feel like you're a theater guy. I feel like you like more stage things. Like theater, comedy. Yeah, I do like stage stuff for sure. But I also like I love music.
Starting point is 01:05:14 And I probably know more about music than I do theater. What about the, what about this one's a, it's three amigos or annie hall oh three amigos because i'm only saying that because yes it's the movies but it sort of dictates like it totally imprinted on me in a way three amygos yeah three amygos yeah i looked at any hall intellectually as i got to be an adult and you're older but three amigos like yeah three yeah three amigos like i i know all the lines yeah it's like when people talk about your influences and of course you want to say like it's brando or so now like you just got to get real and i remember Trey Anastagio, the lead singer, Fish,
Starting point is 01:05:49 guitar? I was just with him, like, a couple days ago. Oh, we're going to, I got to hear about that. No, I forgot about it. I was like, I literally said, and that's the time you don't FaceTime me. Jesus. I literally walked to it, I was like, oh my God, Scotty, I wish Scotty was here. He talks about, there
Starting point is 01:06:05 was a documentary Bittersweet Motel made about them, made by the guy who made Joker. Todd Phillips. Todd Phillips. And Trey's talking about, he's sitting in the front seat of his station wagon, he's talking about the influences of fish. He's talking about being a mall kid growing up in the 70s like hanging out the malls and like the music
Starting point is 01:06:22 that influenced him was the Grateful Dead but it was also like weird 80s like you know Devo and shit and I'm like you know that kind of truth that he had like of course you want to sit there being like my influences are Coltrane you know go see no he's like it was Devo it was the dead it was all and so three amigos makes me think of that yeah all that right what are the most influential movies of your life real quick is fast as you can think of them. Oh, I can. Major League.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Yes. Major League. It's shit like that. Major League. Three Migos. Braveheart. Rocky Bell Bo. Right, Rocky.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Clueless. Okay. Clueless. Okay, too far. Too far. Oh, oh. Oh, my favorite one ever. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Adventures in babysitting. Ghostbusters. But Ghostbusters. Right? Like that. E.T. No. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:07:14 E.T. Last rapid fire. Spoon or fork. Fork. That's exactly how I would have thought it broke that. I'm serious. So I used to, Tony Robbins says this. He rapid fires people.
Starting point is 01:07:28 For the rest of your life, you can only use one? Yeah, you get one utensil. What a paper? Paper plastic. Yeah. Well, paper. Paper. Kind of maniac would say plastic at this point.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Drew was thinking about it. Yeah, I changed mine to paper. Wait, what did Tony Robbins say? You rapid fire somebody, gets them out of their ability to, like, think about how am I gonna come off and I say this you start doing it so those are the things
Starting point is 01:07:50 spoon or four orange banana orange banana a cat or dog orange uh shoe or boot and you get and people have to go boom boom boom boom boom boom
Starting point is 01:07:58 the question is always if there's one thing that you could alleviate from that person to make their life be better or easier what would that be and then if there's one thing
Starting point is 01:08:08 you could emulate what would it be to take for yourself that you wish you had something more of I am going to say like what I said for Scottie to begin with, which was, you know,
Starting point is 01:08:20 just not having to, you know. Is your thing almost applicable to my life, not just my work? Yeah, but that's what we're talking about. Yeah, yeah. Both of us. I was saying earlier, you were talking about my work.
Starting point is 01:08:30 I think that's also how you feel about my life. Yeah, exactly. And then the one thing that I wish I had maybe a little bit more, oh, this is going to be hard. I had more of Scotty. I think that one of the things that I wish I had more of that you have is like what Oliver has, which is you have like a dedication to your kids where you just will drive to the end of the earths for them.
Starting point is 01:09:05 I will not sit outside in Marvista for five hours while my kids are playing a game. that's not true i will but but there's a certain type of character that will just always like go to the end of the earth for their kids and that's something i admire about you yeah true my favorite human um i i i guess it's right in front of you i guess the one thing that in front of me that i guess i would sort of what would relieve for you is any question that you're not exactly where you're supposed to be in your life.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Like, that you are exactly where you're supposed to be, that you don't need to overthink any of it. And, and, again, the whimsical part of it. Just being present and enjoying the things that you have in the moment, and not thinking outside of it. Well, this is the one thing that, yes, it's like I would give him more of like feeling like present
Starting point is 01:10:23 in the situations that he's in. His whole thing with bringing more whimsy and whimsical into his life, which I think you've been doing a lot more of. Yes. Well, that's what I was going to say about you. It's like I would want some of your whimsy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Being in the present. I forecast a lot. I'm living in the future or I'm living in the past. You are very good at being right there in the moment and you're whimsical mischievous playful
Starting point is 01:10:51 like I have those but I catch glimpses of them and then they're gone I'd give you more fox animal energy yes I'm less beaver I'm less like building my house kind of like walking with sticks
Starting point is 01:11:05 denning and then I would want to emulate your like your ability to your quick-wittedness. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Your ability to always be like wonderful and pleasant and kind in a room but also like just make everyone laugh because you just have this quick-witted brain that can, it's like writing on the spot. But your humor is so like like even, you could probably say the nastiest thing and it would just feel like a teddy.
Starting point is 01:11:44 bear like a warm like hug or like a blanket you're like oh my god you just completely like you know assassinated my character in a funny way and it feels like love meanwhile tears real siblings are missing this like fuck you okay you don't know what you're gonna he uses up all that at work and then he's mean to us at home but seriously you are just like you're you are maybe the funniest human but you're also the most loving and so I you know I wish I could have a little bit more of that, like brain, that kind of brain, that wit. That's nice. That's really nice.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Thank you. That's nice. I love you guys. This is, this is too much fun. This is so fun. Thank you for you guys. Hopefully we'll do it again. We can do this again.
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