Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Little ditty 'bout Teddi and Oliver (Part 1)
Episode Date: May 20, 2024Teddi talks about life with her rock star dad John Mellencamp and SO MUCH MORE that we had to split this episode in two! From divorced parents, to partying to panicking...was her upbringing as rock an...d roll as you might think? Plus, Teddi makes a shocking confession to Oliver!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hi, I'm Kate Hudson.
And my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.
And what it's like to be siblings.
We are a sibling rivalry.
No, no.
Sibling rivalry.
Don't do that with your mouth.
That's good.
Sibling,
Revellerie.
That's good.
So I'm alone in my house.
Kids are gone to school.
My wife is at Target.
She loves Target.
I mean, she really loves Target.
Like, really loves it.
She seems to be at Target more than she's at our house.
So anytime I see her getting ready and putting her sunglasses on and, you know, getting her purse, I'm like, Target.
And she's like, yeah, Target.
I think it's just a one-stop shop for her.
She can literally get groceries and a dress for going out all in the same stop.
But here's what I love about my wife.
She looks amazing, number one.
She's beautiful.
She's 51.
Still so sexy.
She's just an amazing human being, number one.
but she's so frugal in the best way and this is why this is part of the reason I love her she will go
to Target and find a dress and then she'll tailor it so the dress will be like 1399 and then she'll
tailor it and then we'll go out to some sort of an event and everyone's like oh my god what is that
dress you look amazing and it's always Target like that's her thing so she does very well there
right now my kid is going on a trip sort of a camping trip with a school
and she is there sort of getting mini things,
like mini toothpaste, many soaps, many this.
So I'll let to say, I'm alone in my house,
and it's always nice.
It's always nice.
It's quiet.
There's not a thousand kids running around,
screaming at you, asking you for things,
making fun of you, dissing you,
telling you that you're not good enough.
My oldest telling me saying,
oh, I could beat you up.
I'm like, dude, you can't beat me up.
Well, try.
try let's go i'm like i'm not gonna go i'm not gonna like kick your ass right now i'm your father you know
you don't you don't have it um so i'm alone and it's nice it's beautiful today i got a guest
today i got a guest who i've known for a minute um you know i think we met in colorado she
came up to me because i think i was looking particularly handsome that day
the Hudson Express was like full steam,
probably wearing some kind of like a dope cowboy hat,
maybe some kind of a ranch shirt
where I was walking this line of like sophisticated cowboy,
you know, where it was like, wow, he looks polished
but still rough around the edges.
You know, I think I hit exactly what I was going for
and I didn't have any spurs on or anything like that,
but I walked into this place called Kimosabe
and I think I made an impression.
impression on this guest.
Her name is Teddy Mellon Camp.
And she's John's daughter.
She's a real housewife.
She's, but she's more than that.
You know what I mean?
Lots to talk about.
And let's bring her on.
Let's bring her on.
Hopefully she praises me and talks about how cool I am and how handsome I am.
Because, yeah, I need that.
I need it.
I need the ego to be pumped a little bit.
Anyway, let's bring Teddy on.
And if she doesn't tell me how handsome I am within the first five minutes, she's gone.
We're clicking her off.
Oh, so you're going to click me off?
Oh, shit.
She's been listening to this.
Well, so is now a good time or is it going to make it awkward to tell you that back in the day?
Not anymore.
Sorry, no offense.
You liar.
That you are my hall pass.
Really?
Yeah.
Wow.
So that's why I came up to you and asked him because my husband was like, your whole pass is here.
Now it's gotten too real.
So wait a minute, wait a minute, but why did this have to change?
What happened?
I mean, did I get older?
I mean, I've done a little Botox and filler to try to keep up, you know?
Facial hair was a problem for me.
What are you talking about?
Facial hair is sexy.
I know I just I can't it's just it's gone I'm trying to remember the movie that you were in that what we were all the mo you were played a douchebag it was like in the 90s and like you were like sleek like that was that was our moment so you like so that's your style of man more sort of refined buttoned up kind of clean shaven yeah really yeah yeah
Like when my husband gets all like woolly mammoth, I'm like, we need to reel it in.
Okay.
So like Brazilian wax stuff.
I'm fine with a manscaping.
I would appreciate a manscaping, especially if you want like all the things.
All the things.
Things need to be cleaned up.
But what about a Brazilian wax?
What about full on Brazilian?
Which, by the way, I've done three times.
Well, do you do bleaching?
No.
No, I think that takes it too far.
That's too far?
Well, imagine if I bleached my asshole.
I mean, I'm down to do a lot of crazy things, but that sounds a little nuts.
You know, I mean, but I was with my wife and she was getting, she was, I was out running errands with her and she was getting, you know, waxed.
And I went with her and it was this like 78 year old Italian woman who barely spoke English who did her waxing.
And she was just so hysterical and amazing.
And Aaron's like, you do it.
I'm like, all right, let's go.
No, you really did do it?
Oh, I did it. Yeah, I have pictures and video of it because it was hysterical.
She, I was like, should I get maybe a hand towel to put over myself?
She's like, no, he's the guy. It's okay.
Like, I want manscape, but I don't want to see it happening.
I don't want to know that it's happened.
Wouldn't it be funny? Wouldn't it be endearing in some kind of a way to watch your man sort of go through this pain?
Yes, because I think it is an incredibly painful thing that we're forced to do.
Yes, but you know what the best part of this was?
What?
well along with all of sort of the added treats that come along with being completely smooth you know
which definitely is is nice right enticing um i liked it it was great it felt good the growback was okay
uh any brown hairs no no everything was good uh the best part of it though was she took a liking to me
and the next time aaron went she comes back home with a full tray of lasagna that she had made me she
goes, she, she went to go get wax.
Aaron's like, she brought a huge plate tray of lasagna for you because you told her that
you love lasagna.
So she, so not only great.
Yeah.
But now you need to keep going to her.
I know.
So I got, you know, a smooth ass hole and everything else and and lasagna.
So it's, that's hard to beat.
I, you know what?
That's, that's more than most people will do after seeing your balls with her ass.
I'm sure.
Well, next time I see you, I will be extremely clean shaven.
I'll have my hair slick back.
I'll look like Gordon Gecko or something.
Yeah, I mean, that's more of what I'll need.
And then maybe you could come back into the rotation of Hall Pass,
but you got moved out.
There's someone new there.
Who?
Can you say?
You can say.
I mean, I don't know that I can really say because, like, I don't want to make him feel
like he has a chance because he goes to,
His kid goes to my kid's school.
Oh.
So, like, sometimes I'll see him in the drop.
I didn't tell Edwin I saw this because I didn't want him to think that there's a shot.
Not that I have a shot, but I see him sometimes and I'm like, do you think he noticed me?
Like, looking rageful and the drop off.
Oh, my God.
That's so funny.
But let me ask you a question about the hall pass situation because, you know, obviously it's always a fun game to play.
You know, Aaron has a hall pass, like, but a real one, like, for real.
Like if, if, for whatever reason, she had the opportunity to sleep with Brad Pitt, who's 60.
Right.
I love that you pointed that out.
How old are you?
47.
Okay.
Young 47.
Without a doubt.
Especially without a facial hair.
I look 28.
Yeah.
But, and I only say 60 because he's still like hot shit.
You know, Brad Pitt is the man.
I said, if you ever had that chance, I would.
let you do it like 100% for real i'm not kidding i wouldn't have a jealousy i wouldn't not at all like
you go go go for it so is the hall pass a real thing or is this just sort of a fun kind of
coupley thing well i can give you a story so back when i first started dating my husband so whatever
15 years ago 16 years ago the guy originally my original it wasn't a hall pass my original crush
was Enrique Iglesias.
He's gone as well now, too.
He's still wearing the same outfits, and I can't.
And there's still, like, the chain and the hat.
I'm like, nope, you're done.
You're out.
Okay, got it.
But we saw him out.
And him and Wilmer Valderama, like, came to get me from, like, the VIP.
Like, they were in the VIP area.
I was in, like, the general admission, like, whatever.
And they're like, you want to come back here?
And Edwin's like, you can go.
You can go.
Because I thought Enrique was hot.
And I was.
I was like, I'm not going.
That is a psycho behavior.
You should have got it.
And that night we got home.
And he's like, you know, if I got the opportunity with Kate Beck and sell, I probably
would have taken it.
Right.
So you just lost your opportunity.
And now that time has passed.
Ah, okay.
So it never happened.
And I don't know that I would actually want it to happen.
But would you be okay if your wife were to accept her hall pass?
With Brad Pitt.
Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, but would she be okay with you?
No. I don't even know what my whole pass.
You know, I don't know. I don't know. I think Duolipa was my latest. I think she's just talented and sexy.
You know, I think she's just sexy. But no, I mean, probably not. Probably not.
You just love the Barbie soundtrack. So you were like, I'm going to go forward.
I didn't see Barbie. I still haven't seen Barbie. No, I know.
it's bad it's bad well i like how this uh i like how this introed you know because we've
established a few things in this short period of time that i am no longer your guy except when i was
maybe 24 years old playing a character yeah uh you do not like men with beards you like a manscaped
guy i like clean cut um no chest hair uh not completely bare
But I need it to be trimmed.
Like, if there's a curl, I'm not happy about it.
Okay.
And what if you have kind of a dad bod, you know what I mean?
Or do you need someone shredded?
I don't need shredded.
But I need somebody that likes to do things.
Got it.
So, like, whether it's sports or exercising or whatever.
What about personality?
Is that like eighth down on your list?
Like, what's going on?
I mean, no.
I mean, that's still, that's still necessary.
But, I mean, I think I like somebody that can make me laugh, but also can take a joke.
Like, you can make fun.
Some people that are funny can't take it back and then that grosses me out.
100%.
Well, anyway, I'm excited to talk to you for a million different reasons.
You know, we've known each other for a little bit now.
I think we met in Colorado.
I had a fun time upstairs at Kimosabi, having some cocktails where your dad was sort of sitting down, holding court a bit.
Oh my gosh, I forgot I was there with my dad.
I thought I was there with Kyle.
Mm-mm.
Your pops was there.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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So you grew up in Indiana, correct?
I was born in Indiana and then when my parents got divorced, I moved to South Carolina.
So it was very common when you were a Midwesterner that you would have a house or something in Indiana and then you'd go somewhere.
else in the summer and that place was heltenhead so in my and how old were you when they divorced third grade
third grade and do you remember it i don't i i don't remember like a lot of my childhood i kind of
blacked out like i feel like i remember pictures or videos that i've seen but i do remember and it
was definitely something still to this day because they did a remake of this song but i remember my mom
packing up for us to leave while Tracy Chapman was playing.
Like the original fast car.
Like I can still remember that day.
Like this is the final straw.
We're going and kind of packing up our home.
And like, I remember that.
So that's what was playing when you guys were out.
You guys were leaving.
Yeah.
Does that song have any triggering effect or is it?
I mean, I think I cannot even remember them.
together. I don't have one actual. And because this past year is the first time they've been
together other than my sister or my wedding. Like when we did like a drop off type thing,
like they saw each other for a second. And I made them get in a picture together. I was like,
guys. Oh my God. And you could see it. Like both of them are like. But I don't really remember
them. Like all of my memories of my childhood are separate of the two. Like I'm either with him or with
her. Wow. Yeah. And then did you have siblings at the time? Yeah. I have one full sibling. She's
four years younger than me. Okay. I have one older sister from my dad's first wife and then I have two
little brothers from my dad's third wife. Okay. Good. Like a blend. And that's kind of what we have.
Yeah. There's a lot. Did, do you think the divorce like fucked you up?
I don't think it was necessarily the divorce that fucked me out.
But like one thing that I say to this day, like, I have a stepdaughter.
And one thing I always say to my husband is like, please don't ever, when you're upset with Bella, don't ever call her her mom's name.
Because both of my parents would do that to me and it would make me so mad.
Like my mom would be like, okay, John, or my dad will be like, all right, little Vicky.
And I was like, fuck you.
Like, you chose this person.
I didn't choose them.
Like, and now you're throwing it in my face as a negative, but they're still my parents.
And I love you both.
So why are you putting me in the situation?
So those kind of things affected me.
And, you know, essentially, if I didn't have a sport or something that I really cared about growing up, I think I probably would have been slightly more fucked up.
Right, right, right, right.
No, I know because you just never know how it's going to catch you, you know, I mean, when you're that young in third grade, you know, you're lucid enough, you're clear enough to sort of maybe understand what's going on, but you don't quite understand or can process how that might affect you in your life as far as what you become, your decisions and your relationships, whatever insecurities you might have, self-esteem issues. And then they kind of rear their heads. And I'm only speaking just from experience, you know, because I'm sort of a product of divorce.
horse and at the time you're like oh things are fine like everything's fine but as you sort of
move further along in your life and you come upon these obstacles and these roadblocks
we're like holy shit why am i feeling this way or why can't i feel that way and then you come
to realize oh well you know there's been issues that have been gone unresolved you know that need
to be resolved and i think there is something about and correct me if i'm wrong when it comes to
your experience, but when you do rotate between, you know, different parents, it's like this
sense of needing approval for both people and like appeasing the parent that might be upset or
wanting to be all the things so that you make that parent extra happy. Like I still catch
myself. I'm 42 now doing that. Like when it like, hey, Teddy, are you coming for Thanksgiving or
Chris, you know, whatever it may be in that like panic. But what about mom? What about dad? What about
like how am I going to manage this still as an adult and also be like I have my own life too like
you're welcome to come to me yeah right exactly I actually can house us all like let's go like come on
yeah yeah yeah no I know and where was your dad was he like in this the payday of his career
like when all this shit was going down you know what I mean like how did you deal with him on being on
the road and you know needing a father figure was he as present as he as he wishes he was you know
because that shit is real you have to make a living you got to go do your thing it's your passion
you go play music you go make a ton of money but you also have your children so how did that
work out for you my parents met my dad had married his high school sweetheart he had my older
sister michel and then he was he came out here because it was back
in the time, like, I mean, this is when he was Johnny Cougar. So where record companies essentially
curated your image and you had this name and it was like, you know, he wore his chaps and it was
like all these things. But he came out to L.A. And it was one of those dinners where the management
companies like, all right, bring cute girls. Like we're going to whatever. And my mom was one of those
girls. I think my mom was like 19 years old or what 18 or 19 years old. And they immediately had like
a connection. And when my mom went back to, like, she drove her like VW bus or whatever it was
to Indiana, she got pregnant with me before they got married. And I think, I just think so much
that year, 1981, the year I was born was the year of his first big hit. So the way our life
changed from when I was born, like I see the pictures of our very first house.
to, you know, a couple of years later, I'm like, what the hell happened?
But, like, my mom and dad are Jack and Diane.
Like, that song was them in that video.
Like, they're the one second on chili dogs.
So it's like our life really changed.
And then a lot of my life became pretending that I didn't think it was a big deal.
Ah, interesting.
So kind of like, whatever, it's just what it is.
Like, what does your dad do?
I mean, there's nothing, you know, whatever.
Is that a defense mechanism, you think?
Because I wanted nothing to do with, with not my parents,
but I didn't want anyone to know who my parents were.
Yeah.
I was like, I wanted to sort of exist on my own, you know.
And that's everybody's favorite insult is to be like, well, this happened because you're
so-and-so's kid or this or whatever it may be.
Like, I would remember, like, they would come in to watch me.
like play volleyball and like my dad would walk in with like his supermodel wife and like everyone
would be like and I just remember that feeling of like sheer panic like no you've outed that
you exist um but I mean I think he was always a you know he always tried his best do I think
that we're in a way better place now than when I was a kid yes but also because
I mean, I didn't really understand the importance of a relationship with my parents when I was a kid.
Like around eighth grade when I started like having friends and things were important, like social events.
I would choose like my friends are riding horses overseeing my parents, like over flying to my dad's.
Like it was supposed to be like every other weekend.
Yeah.
Accompanied minor flying a Indiana.
And then I just kind of stopped doing it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
well understandably you know i mean you get to a certain age where and that's the time where
your friends and your social life and wanting to sort of stay in one place becomes paramount it's
like well i mean i love you dad but like i'm over it i don't want to fucking go and get on a plane
i want to like hang out with my friends i don't want to miss out on this where really like now looking
i'm like oh wow those i probably really hurt his feelings doing that i mean there was
there was one point, and we joke about this conversation because it's probably so traumatizing,
but I got mad at him for something.
And he said, you know what, F you, Teddy, I have other kids.
Ooh.
And we didn't talk for a couple of years.
That's a hard thing.
That's a tough one to take.
We, like, it was a real.
And so now to this day, like, we still joke.
We're like, remember the best couple years of our life and we didn't talk?
How old were you when that went down?
I think I was like 16.
Yeah, yeah.
But by the time I was like graduated high school, like end of 17, like it was like a year
and a half or whatever it was.
I was moving to L.A.
I wanted to be an actress, all of these things.
I remember his rep or his manager, whomever, calling me and saying, will you be on behind
the music?
And I was like, well, if he calls me and we can have a conversation, then yeah.
but we were both so stubborn that I mean and we're very similar when you when you actually have
us in a room together that it's like shit like we're prochity and particular and all of those same
you know we have the same qualities but once once we had the conversation both of us were like
okay maybe maybe we took it a little too far yeah feelings can get hurt but at the same time
you kind of have to step outside of yourself and look at the big picture you know where he
it sounds crazy as it sounds that's coming from a place of pain and hurt and frustration and
and love in a weird way because he just probably wanted to be with you he just wanted to be with me and
I was rejecting you right yeah rejecting him instead of being like all right you know you're 17
I'm not taking this personally I know you love me you just want to be with your homies or whatever
instead it's like well fuck off and I I totally get that because as a dad I have to
hold back sometimes when I get rejected by my children, which happens all the fucking time in my 16
year old, all the time. And I just want to be like, God, you know, I ask him to go on like a fishing
trip with me to Alaska, you know, possibly this summer to have like a, you know, one-on-one type
of trip. And he's like, oh, God, really, you know. Can I bring a friend? Yeah, or like, I don't know,
like, but like, what? Like, I'd rather be like here. I'm like, dude, this is a memory we might make
together, you know, you're 16. It's going to be fun. And it's just rejection.
And it, plus I knew he was really, he was stricter than my mom.
Yeah.
So like, I also knew going there was like, I probably couldn't smoke SIGs.
Yeah.
Yeah, like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
There were more rules in place.
Or they're interesting, you know, as someone who sort of lived a rock star kind of lifestyle.
Maybe he saw what was on the road sinking.
Well, he, he never drank, like, or anything drank growing up.
Like he said, that's right.
Yeah.
So he, it wasn't necessarily that he was sober.
he was just like when I was young, I would drink and get in fights.
And I knew that drinking wasn't for me.
So I've never seen him have a drink.
Wow.
Yeah.
He's still smoking, huh?
Yeah.
My brother tried.
He even started back in the day when like Facebook was a bit, you know, or MySpace or
whatever.
He's like a million people follow this.
My dad has to quit smoking.
Yeah.
So he didn't get to a million.
Oh, my God.
So you came to L.A.
to be an actor and to be in the movie business, right?
And were you here alone, or did you come with friends?
I came out here by myself.
Like, my rule, my parents rules for me.
This is something they agreed on.
They're like, listen, if you don't, you know, you got into college.
If you're not going to go to college, like, we'll help send you out there,
but then you have to, like, figure it out after that.
So they, like, help me pack up my Jedda and come out here.
And I started at CAA in the mailroom.
You did?
Yeah.
I did too.
You did?
Yep.
I worked.
I got expelled from high school in 11th grade and went to like some weird little shitty school for half the day.
And then the rest, the second half the day I worked in the mailroom.
Yeah.
So did you serve ice cream?
Served ice cream.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
So I did that and then I was a hostess at Mr. Chow and Euro Chow.
I was in acting school.
And it was, you know, it was kind of a real wake-up call.
And I lived in a studio apartment with another girl that I met in acting school and quickly learned, I wasn't going to make it.
Did you, though?
I mean, you know, because actors, if they're passionate about it, of course, they'll stick to it until the day that they die.
But at the same point, on the same point, I always say, well, you need to always have a backup plan.
You know, I mean, even if it is your true passion, like, you still have to survive and live and then realize, well, maybe it's not worth.
It's a horrible, pessimistic way to look at things.
And, you know, but there's a reality here.
I mean, we're sort of that moment we're like, you know what,
this isn't fucking working, uh, moving on.
Well, I wasn't, I would say that I didn't necessarily want to be an actor.
And this is going to sound badly.
I didn't necessarily want to be an actor because I had a passion for acting.
It was more like I was craving almost fame or like approval or not a right.
I don't really know what it was, but kind of the final.
off for me is I had done a couple commercials, little things, and then I had gone out on pilot
season. So I'm working in the mailroom. I'm a hostess. I go out on pilot season. I finally like
book some, I think I book something. Like my manager calls me is like you're in the final thing. Like
they want you. And then, you know, there's like that gap. There's like that three month gap before
then you go in and you start filming. And I went in for like the table read, which I was
so excited about and that night
they called my manager
and they said Teddy has gained weight
since
since we
auditioned her and she either
needs to lose 20 pounds
within the next whatever it is
or we're going to
recast her. Wow
because she's too
at this point she's too heavy to be
right
and I
At that point, I honestly was like, I'm done.
Yeah.
And I said, okay, tell them no thank you.
Yeah.
And I mean, I had gained a bunch of weight.
I was feeling a certain kind of way from being a big fish.
You know, like I was a very small fish in a big pond all of a sudden.
And I think I was eating my feelings and I wasn't taking care of myself.
And I was feeling down.
And I just got to that place.
But then once somebody said it to me, I was like, well, then F this and F this business.
and that's you know that's kind of where I stopped and how old were you when that when you were
like I'm out I'm done with that like 20 21 okay and then you know I've maybe 20 because then that's
when I went to like my boss of the mailroom and said like okay I want to go into the training
program and I want to be an agent like I you know I'm done I'm done saying I need to leave it
this time to go to this audition like I want to get serious about this and so what did your boss say
They were like fine
And then I worked for the head of the
MP lit department
And at CAA
And then I got coached to UTA
And worked for the head of the talent department there
And that's kind of how my life
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And then when did it take this turn into sort of becoming famous,
being on the Housewives, or, you know, like, how did this all happen?
I mean, I would say probably my first 10 years in L.A. were not, like, my happiest years.
Like, they were, it was rough. It was rough for me.
It was rough. In what way?
Just I think I was kind of partying. And then it was a lot of, like, self-hate and, like, trying to measure up and not ever feeling out a ton.
I was going out and partying and, yeah.
Making out with everybody and, like, essentially just making poor decisions.
Yeah.
I'm lucky that.
I didn't, like, get, you know, I didn't get addicted to anything.
Like, I just was living a too hard of a life for what I probably should have been doing.
Yes.
And were you, you're dating?
Well, I ended up getting married and to, not to my husband with now, but I got married in 2006.
And he was a great guy, but it was like essentially the first guy that was like, wow, he's really nice.
People could treat me well.
Like, he was a little bit older and he was nice.
And we got married.
And on my wedding day, my dad said,
me, I know this guy's your best friend, but like, if you don't want to do this, you don't have to.
Wow.
And I was like, what are you talking about, you know?
So he knew.
He knew.
We got married and within a year, like, that was it.
It was it.
But at that time, I kind of fully changed my life.
And I was like, all right, I'm out of the entertainment business all together, went back to riding horses, did it professionally, did that for 10 years, met my husband, got pregnant, did all the, you know, went through IV.
my life changed and then randomly I was I got contacted by just like somebody on the internet like on my
Instagram because I was doing like fitness influencing oh you were yeah okay about because I changed
my life like it was all about like all right health wellness fitness got it yeah so and it started
grow you know first it was like my 12 friends and then it started growing yeah it got to be a little bit bigger
if someone reached out to me about doing a reality show, and I went and filmed like a day of it or
whatever, and I was like, absolutely not. So I called my old friend from CAA, who's an agent. I said,
what do I do? I don't know if I signed something, but like I regret everything that just happened
in these last 48 hours. I don't want to be on this show. My family will kill me. You know, whatever.
She was like, yeah, I'll help you. You didn't really sign anything that we can't get you out of.
but would you go on real housewives?
Because I've been watching your life and I think you could do it.
And I said, I've never watched it.
What do you think?
And she said, yeah, but would you prefer Beverly Hills or Orange County?
Because I know you have a house both places.
And I said, I don't know.
What's better?
And she said, well, you know, for your business and your career, like Beverly Hills is a little bit more like dialed in.
And I was like, all right, let's fine.
And then that's when like the process started.
That's such an interesting decision.
vision, you know, because you obviously know your life is going to be exposed.
Did you weigh out the pros and the cons being like, okay, you know, there's potential money.
There's also exposure for what I'm trying to do.
And, you know, now unconsciously or behind your eyes, it's like, well, I do want to be famous.
Like there was a part of me.
That's why I became an actor.
I was like, I enjoy that, that sort of attention.
Attention.
Yeah.
Did that play into your decision?
or is that something that you had sort of suppressed?
Well, I think, you know, I had always, my husband and I, Edwin,
we had always been in a position where, like, I financially had my own, like, my own jobs.
He had, he did really well for himself.
But, like, I always wanted to keep separate because I have, like, money issues.
Like, I just, I am very, like, controlling in that way.
Like, this is, and I didn't have a trust fund or any of those types of things that everybody
thought I had.
So I had always worked and I'd always been able to do whatever I wanted because I had my own income.
And then all of a sudden I had kids and the power dynamic in our relationship shifted because all of a sudden now I'm not at horse shows and I'm not making money and I am, I felt at a real like, even if Edwin didn't make me feel that way, I made myself feel that way.
Like I don't want to ask if I can go to sushi with my girlfriend.
Like, I don't want to feel this way.
And so that's when I created All In, which was my business.
And it was, but I wasn't making a ton of money, but I was making enough money I didn't have to ask him, you know, to go get my nails done.
Explain what that is real quick.
So essentially, after I had, I had a couple of miscarriages.
I had to go through a bunch of IVF.
I had struggled, you know, with my weight, but also with postpartum anxiety and depression and that kind of stuff.
And I was always like a misery loves company person.
Like, oh, okay, well, let's go complain about our husbands and have margaritas and a kid's play date and like, let's just ignore what's going on in our lives.
But, like, I won't ever be in a picture with my kids because I don't think to care about how I look, you know, whatever maybe.
And then finally, without telling anyone, I just started an Instagram and it was called L.A. Workout Junkie.
It was a bad name.
Right. Okay.
But I said, I'm going to change my life today.
Follow along if you're interested.
And I did it for a year straight, never made a dollar.
but I posted everything all my workouts what I was eating what I was doing and then people started
asking me you know we want to do what you're doing but we don't want to put it on social media
you know because yeah people saw me shed weight but more so people saw my personality change
like I started becoming more confident more comfortable in my own skin and just living life more
did you consider yourself beautiful because obviously you're a beautiful woman you're a pretty woman right
So did you have issues with the way that you physically looked?
I wouldn't, this is going to sound weird.
I never felt weird about the way that my face looked, but I was really mean to myself
about my body, really.
And then what would happen is that it would affect my mental state, but then I would
feel almost paralyzed by that fact of that anxiety, which now I know, I'm like, oh, if I go
want to run or if I go to hot yoga or if I move my body in some capacity, it's not going to make
my anxiety go away, but it does make it better. And then it makes me like myself more and trust
myself more instead of lying to myself all the time. I'm going to change Monday. I'm going to do this
Monday. I'm going to do this next week. And then it became like once my life changed, my marriage
started getting better. My life started getting better. My business started growing. And that's
when housewives presented itself to me. Oh, cool. So it was almost like this, the timing of
It was really cosmically perfect.
Yeah.
And then I was really, you know, the first two years were pretty great for me on the show.
Like I was like, hey, this is pretty good.
But then I got pregnant again, naturally for the first time.
And doing the show pregnant was a completely different ballgame.
Oh, gosh.
This is a doozy.
But I mean, it all kind of worked out.
But I knew on my first meeting, like where they film you and you're doing your kind of
confessional. I told my husband, I said, I'm going to get the job. And he goes, how do you know?
They told you there's like eight rounds. I go, I know. And so, and then I did.
All right. Well, I want to continue this conversation and get into mental health and health.
I love getting to know you more and hearing about your past. So everyone stay tuned for part two.
Coming out with Teddy Mellon Camp very soon.
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