Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Little Ditty 'bout Teddi and Oliver (Part Two)

Episode Date: May 23, 2024

The conversation between Oliver and Teddi Mellencamp continues with even more rock and roll revelations! Did her dad REALLY bed one of her besties?  Plus, Oliver and Teddi tell some truths about their struggles with anxiety and overall mental health.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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One Tribe saved my life twice. Welcome to Season 2 of the Good Stuff. Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling rivalry.

No, no. Revely. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling Reveory. That's good. All right, I am back another episode with

Teddy Mellencamp. Going back to this sort of your anxiety, you know, I've dealt with that all my life. I'm on Lexa Pro you know right now. Cheers. It's actually Zell-off for me.

Yeah, and it's not a depressive, but it's more for anxiety for me, you know, than it is sort of depressive state. But would you say that it's a, no matter if you're on medication or not, like it is a constant battle, meaning I'm not saying that it's debilitating. But that anxiety rears its head for you, I'm asking, does it, you know, all the time? Every day, right? You just kind of have the tool. to sort of figure it out or know what it is. And now I can wake up and have that moment of realization. Like, you're, Teddy, whatever your hypotheticals you're going through right now,

you are creating them. You know what you can do to make it better. Or you can sit in here and keep scrolling on Instagram or doing whatever it is that you're doing that's not helping. Or you can go move your body or go in the cold plunge or see a friend or whatever it may be or tell somebody I'm anxious today like those are things I never would have done before how does your anxiety manifest because everyone's a little different you know I mean I mean I've been different throughout the years like when I was in my 20s I was fucking gnarly but it was

stomach like I would be I'd throw up everywhere you know it changed for me mine is so like I pick at my thumbs like my sister does it too so like we'll even send pictures pictures back and forth. I'll be like, how booked up are you this week? She's like pretty booked and it's like our bloody cuticles. You know, like, we, yeah. So I, I know it's starting when I'm like that, but then I, I can't sleep. And then I run through hypotheticals in my head about like, it's weird. Even though I've had all this cancer stuff, it's not really about dying. It's like, did I fuck up here? Did I, is this person mad at me? Like, I'm always overthinking every interaction that I've had in my life. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It's crazy because we're essentially creating pain, physical mental pain with things that have already happened or gone and ruminating or projecting and catastrophizing with something that hasn't even happened yet. Yeah. Isn't it weird? And most of the time once it does happen, it's not even that bad. No, not at all. It's like all that what ifs that we'll go in your head and then you, I'm a very. specific detailed person. So I will play out these scenarios in like heavy, heavy detail. Oh, yeah. And then all of a sudden I'm anxious. And I'm like, oh my God. I'm like, what the fuck are you doing, dude? Like this hasn't even happened yet. You're creating this

scenario. And then I create a certain amount of pressure like in my orbit because of that anxiety. So then like, you know, I put people in positions in my business or my life or whatever it may be that, you know, manage stuff. But then I start micromanaging. everybody because I'm like, oh, I feel if I could really micromanage this situation, I'll feel better. I don't. Guess what? Then it creates more anxiety because I'm like, I didn't really need to do that. They're really great at their travel. I don't need to be riding them the way that I want us today. And then I have to be like, hey, sorry, I wish it just a little bit over the top. Yeah, I know. How did that affect, you know, your relationships or your husband

and your marriage and, you know, a relationship with your kids early on when you were sort of going through it, you know, with some postpartum stuff, you know, with all of, you know, I mean, was he was, was it, was it, was it, did it fuck it up? Was it ever on ice? Was it just sort of like, oh, shit? It was definitely on ice after my, so I have my daughter who's, um, 11 and then my son who's 10 and, you know, it definitely right after my son, I was just, it was so bad. And then I tried to control every little thing. that Edwin did. Like, I need you home by 5.30 for dinner, and I need this and I need that.

And I, if you don't do this, it means that you don't love me or like, whatever. Like, there was just a certain amount. And he was like, hold on. I've always been the same guy. Like, I'm an entrepreneur. Like, I worked, blah, blah, blah. And, like, then we just always had this pushback. Or he'd be there at the time I'd say, but you could tell he's like, okay.

You know, like, is this really, I know you didn't grow up in a household. that they ate dinner together every single night, but like, is this really what we wanted? And it took us getting like, I mean, we had a really, really bad time.

Like, you know, trust were broken. Like, things were not good for us ultimately to have the conversation to fight for each other and be like, hey,

all right, let's set up some new boundaries. Like, let's figure out, like one, I needed to find my purpose other than being a mother. I love being a mom.

It's amazing, but I needed to find what I loved. And so it was my business. It was, all of these things it was finding myself the show all of these things helped but then also like let's set up our thing i'm like listen actually i don't need you at home every night by five o'clock but what i do need is i don't like if you want to go see your friends or you want to do whatever i don't there's no seven hour golf game on saturday you know that like you you want to see your friends you

want to do that like these are the these are your time frames do it and and vice versa and if you want to have those moments we have to discuss that with each other because I don't want to feel like I'm living this parenting life on my own and then that's when it really kind of shifted like we stopped expecting things that weren't going to happen like we were not going to fully change was there to come to Jesus moment where it was like we need to fucking figure this out because this is going in the wrong direction and then what was the moment the moment of sort of, I guess, you wouldn't call it reconciliation, but the beginning of sort of healing the small fractures that were sort of compounding.

We had started going to couples therapy for the first, like, you know, he did not grow up like believing in there. Like his, you know, he's from Columbia, like his family. Like therapy was like not something really dead. So, but I said like we need to, we need like a somebody in the middle because he's one of those people that will throw out things that he doesn't mean and then be over it. and I'm one of those people that will hold on to it until the day that I died. So we were in couples therapy, but then we started seeing her separately.

And I didn't know this was a rule. But apparently, if you are in couples therapy and then you also see that therapist on your own, they are not allowed to continue seeing you separately if one of you tells the therapist a secret, that they're unwilling to what up. I didn't know that either. I didn't know this shit either. So I get a call. I'm on my way to an appointment with our therapist.

And she said, Teddy, I can't see you today. And I said, why? And she goes, well, unless Edwin's had a conversation with you, I can't see you. I was like, well, what is it? And she's like, I can't tell you, but you now have the tools to go talk to him. And so that night, he got home from work. And I was like, what is it that you told our doctor that you haven't told me? And he's like, nothing.

I don't know what you're talking about. out. And I mean, we had two little kids. And I said, okay. And I remember it was his birthday the next day. And I just, I had already put Cruz to bed and Slate was already going to sleep. Like, they didn't know any of this was happening. And I said, okay, well, then I'm leaving. Hey. Whoa. And I went to my best friend's house and I slept there the next day with his birthday. He's like, I had already set up all of his birthday stuff from the kids. Like I know it's all happening and he doesn't call me he doesn't do anything like he's just he probably called his mom to come help him you know like whatever it was yeah yeah yeah and then like two days later he like

called and he's like okay I'm ready to talk to you wow and like I'm really sorry yeah this this is what I told her and it wasn't even as bad as I imagine yeah yeah but he was like I don't know why I couldn't just tell you this and and then once we talked about then it was like all right well let's stop this then that's stop this shit like either you're in this with me and like you love me and I love you and we're going to tell each other the good and the bad and the ugly or like we're out I can't keep I can't keep feeling like I'm not enough or you like we both are looking for whatever's next right something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect

time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable somewhere with charm character and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone. Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything

from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I had this overwhelming sensation that I had to call it right then. And I just hit call, said, you know, hey, I'm Jacob Schick. I'm the CEO of One Tribe. And I just wanted to call on and let her know there's a lot of people battling some of the very same things you're battling and there is help out there. The Good Stuff podcast, season two, takes a deep look into One Tribe Foundation, a non-profit

fighting suicide in the veteran community. September is National Suicide Prevention Month, so join host Jacob and Ashley Schick as they bring you to the front lines of One Tribe's mission. I was married to a combat army veteran and he actually took his own life to suicide. One Tribe saved my life twice. There's a lot of love that flows through this place and it's sincere. Now it's a personal mission. I wouldn't have to go to any more funerals, you know.

I got blown up on a React mission. I ended up having amputation below the knee of my right leg and a traumatic brain injury because I landed on my head. Welcome to Season 2 of The Good Stuff. Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Jenna Lopez. And in the new season of the Overcover podcast, I'm taking you on an exciting journey of self-reflection. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life?

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All from one of my favorite spaces. the kitchen. Honestly, these are going to come out so freaking amazing. Be a part of my new chapter and listen to the new season of the Overcomfit podcast as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I mean, I've been through the shit with my wife as well. And you kind of have to look at the big picture and evaluate just the depth of life. love that you have and looking, not past, but looking into sort of who you are together and whether or not you really want to salvage it.

I think a lot of people quit too soon, you know, and don't want to put the work in and the fight in. They think that love and marriage is supposed to be easy, breezy, and it's not. That is supposed to be a fairy tale. No, it's not. Yeah, exactly. And that's bullshit. I mean, there are the fairy tale moments.

and there's the honeymoons that is always amazing where you're boning like 80 times a day and you're like, this is incredible. Yeah, I mean, it's just ultimate freedom with no kids and you're like, holy shit. Oh, this is why I married you in the first place. Yeah, right. But when you can get through those things

and it just makes it so much better, I mean, the depth and the vulnerability and the communication that happens once you can sort of get through the muck, it makes everything better. It makes sex better. It makes everything better. You know what I mean? And it's so important.

And it's not easy. And I'm speaking for myself, but even for just men, you know, being vulnerable is, it's a strength now, I think, because it is so difficult to do. Yeah. And I think it's also when you're both in a place where you're feeling sensitive or you're feeling a certain way, then you take out that like laughter that you. have with one another and when that goes and there's just like tension and kids and like everything is on like you're like what the hell am I doing with my life yeah but then I'm like what do I think

I'm do I'm gonna go meet somebody else and start this whole process over and expect it to be better like definition of insanity yeah like doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result but it was like we like each other we genuinely like each other so let's figure out what our pros and cons are and work together. Yeah. Because ultimately, like, I feel grateful that I still want to have sex with my husband. Yeah. But it took work.

It wasn't like that every year of these 15 years. Yeah, no, I know. I know. And that intimacy, you know, can wane not just with physical attraction waning, but just with that emotional sort of connection going. Yeah, like if you're not feeling it. Yeah, if you're not feeling it, you know, forget it. You can be the hottest thing in the world.

but if you're just becoming disconnected and sort of passing ships and building up resentment, then you don't want to have sex. Like, it doesn't matter. And then if you get in the habit of not having sex, then it's even harder. Like, people will laugh at me about this, but I say it all the time. I'm like, when we were going through a rough place and we weren't, and it was like we were out of habit of it, finally what we ultimately started doing was we'd make appointments. Yeah.

And we'd be like, okay, we're having an appointment. And we're doing now. And we'll still joke about it. Now, like, appointment at noon. Yeah. You know, like, but I, forcing ourselves to get back in that form of connection is huge because if not, you just live separate lives. I know.

It's so true. Well, cool. I'm glad. Thank you for sharing that. Like, I think that's, it's good to hear. You know what I mean? I think that more people can relate to these kinds of things and it needs to sort of be talked about more, you know, because everyone's trying to make it work.

We all want love. we all want to make we all we all want perfection but that word doesn't shouldn't even be in the english language honestly there's no such thing cutty cutter version on instagram of everybody's perfect life and then they're like i think they're the they're the you know anomaly or the couple that really i'm like dude yeah dig into that relationship and you'll see some shit dig into any relationship you're going to see some shit um so we don't have a ton of time but i wanted to get into sort of the melanomas that you had because there's been like a million of them. You know, interestingly enough, it's so fun I was reading about you, but like I have,

I'm a kind of moly person and I have this one that started itching. I'm like, am I going to die? Like freaking out because of my hypochondriacal self. Yes. But what the fuck happened? Like, and how do you have so many? Like, what? Well, when I was born, I had like a white like hyperpigmentation on my shoulder.

and then, you know, years and years of sun damage and tanning beds and growing up in the south and, like, who knows if that was, you know, that created it or if I was born with it. I don't know. But it wasn't that long ago, I mean, three or four years, three years ago maybe that I was on a run with Kyle Richards from Real Housewives Beverly Hills. And she had seen me, you know, for the past, whatever it was, seven years. And she was like, your shoulder looks different. That spot on your shoulder. shoulder looks different. And I have a big anxiety around going to doctor's appointments or like filling out paperwork. It's so bananas. Like I'm like, what? But she's like, I'll take you to mine right now. Like we ran there. Like we ran to the place. And that first one, I was diagnosed. And then I thought it was kind of done. And then it just kept happening over and over and over. And did they just cut it out? I mean, was there ever any, was there a time? when it got dangerous? The first one, they just cut it out, and then we thought it was fine, but now, I mean,

as my oncologist just said, you've won melanoma. You've had by one W-O-N. I'm like, well, I like to win things, but I don't know that I need to win that. Yeah. But I've had more than anybody else at, like, their cancer facility. And December 26th, I went in, and because the area had been infected so many different times, And I tried immunotherapy. I'd gotten them removed.

They were like, we want to stop cutting you. So we tried the immunotherapy. That just didn't work. Still kept coming back. So then December 26, they went in and essentially just cut out like a spot about this big on my shoulder and then pulled my skin from my lower back over my shoulder. And now I have like a new creation and knock on wood. Like I've been okay since, except now I went in from my check every three months.

and they found another spot that they took right here. But this is on an opposite side. And this one does not have cancer. So as of right now, I'm cancer-free. Are you pro, meaning like, can you look at your moles and freckles now? I'd be like, that one's fuck. That one's okay. No, but I can almost, this is going to sound.

No, no. Hibby-d-be. I can almost feel it. Mm-hmm. Like, I kind of knew going in that this one was going to be okay. But I was like, but mine didn't present as moles. Oh. So mine more looks.

like I went to a dermatologist years ago for it because it would get red and like almost like splaky and they were like oh we think it's dermatitis so I put like a steroid they put had me on like a steroid cream and it would go away so I just lived under the assumption that's what it was for 10 years but then every single spot kept coming back but yeah I mean I think that's why it's so important to go get checked skin cancer isn't choosing like you still need to go. You need to go get your checks and for everything. Like your eye checks, your, you know, colonoscopy, all of the stuff. Yeah. Amagrams. Just book your appointments. I know. It's really important. So what's the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, it came, it came from, it just came from a real place of just, wanting to be

better, right? And just finding your wellness and what that means to you. And then how did you sort of expand that into what it is now? Well, I would say when I was younger, I didn't really have like an entrepreneurial mindset. I always wanted to do well, but I wasn't like it was more self-serving. And then what I realized like through all in and once I started having clients of my own was I am able to be better when I'm helping other people. So, So, like, I know it's, like, contradictory. They're like, you're on a, you're on a housewife show where you talk shit and fight with people. Are you doing a podcast where you talk shit about how, like, I'm like, but all of it, it's like we can be multiple things in our life.

But that way, that approach of like, I am holding myself accountable to living this lifestyle and making these changes because I'm going to practice what I preach telling other people. So it started small. You know, I had about 35 to 40 clients. and then it just started growing and growing and growing. And now, you know, I have over 35 coaches. I have thousands of clients. We've changed. You know, it's crazy.

And I mean, a lot of that is because, I mean, that first day I was ever on Real Housewives, I got 10,000 emails. Like, my website didn't even know what to do. It was like, what? Yeah. But the one thing I wouldn't do is I never would sell out. So, like, at that moment, all these companies came in and said, like, we'll buy you out and we'll just essentially, you can be the fit.

but we'll manage you and we're going to make you. And I was like, no. Yeah. Because the things that I never, like when I would go to a soul cycle class and I would see like some perky little like that I felt and I just judged without knowing. But I'd be like, that person's never struggled to get in their life. They don't know on your top. You know, like I had so much resentment that I was like, no, I need to know that anyone

that's doing this has felt it and lived it. So every coach I've ever brought in was also a client. so you're promoted through it then you actually and then you're kind of paired with like so somebody's going through you know divorce or postpartum or whatever it may be i mean we're we're not therapists or anything but we have lived experience so i'm going to place you with somebody that understands where you're coming from september owns feels like the start of something new whether it's back to school new projects or just a fresh season it's the

perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm character and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything

from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. The Super Secret Festi Club podcast Season 4 is here. And we're locked in. That means more juicy chees-me. Terrible love advice. Evil spells to cast on your ex. No, no, no, no.

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My theory is that if you need to figure out that the stove is hot, go and touch it. Go and figure it out for yourself. Okay. That's us. Where is the head? That's us. My name is Curley. And I'm Maya.

In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendship, heart breaks, men, and, of course, our favorite secrets. Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club as a part of the Michael Tura podcast network available on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I had this, like, overwhelming sensation that I had to call her right then. And I just hit call. I said, you know, hey, I'm Jacob Schick. I'm the CEO of One Tribe Foundation. And I just wanted to call on and let her know, there's a lot of people battling some of the very same things you're battling, and there is help out there.

The Good Stuff podcast, Season 2, takes a deep look into One Tribe Foundation, a non-profit fighting suicide in the veteran community. September is National Suicide Prevention Month, so join host Jacob and Ashley Schick as they bring you to the front lines of One Tribe's mission. I was married to a combat army veteran, and he actually took his own life to suicide. One Tribe saved my life twice. There's a lot of love that flows through this place, and it's sincere. Now it's a personal mission.

I don't have to go to any more funerals, you know. I got blown up on a React mission. I ended up having amputation below the knee of my right leg and a traumatic brain injury because I landed on my head. Welcome to Season 2 of the Good Stuff. Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an extremely authentic sort of place you're coming from here.

Now, when you're dealing with sort of authenticity, which has been the buzzword now for years, like authentic and blah, blah, blah. Anyway. So how much of what the public knows about you and what they see from the Housewives to whatever magazines you're on to whatever it is you're doing? How much of that is 100% you and how much do you have to sort of play it up because you know that that's part of the deal, you know? Yeah. I mean, I think, I mean, first off, we have to be transparent. Like when you're on social media, I mean, you did a thing. thing I think it was like during COVID about like somebody give me paid post like that part

feels a little bit I'm I don't say yes to anything that I don't actually use or like but sometimes you feel a little like when you're doing it for sure um so that part I would say is probably where I live myself most out of my 100% authentic self because whenever you're selling anything yeah of course you got to give a little bit of like bupup up up you know yeah and you're just my tone always changes like you can tell um yes so that and then i would say i mean i'm not filming my kids throwing fits or like you know me punishing you know like any of those types of thing i'm not curating that so people always be like you're the best mom ever this or that you know and i'm

like you only you know i try to be transparent like you only see the half of it like i lose my temper or I do this or, you know, they probably think my calendars are insane. But, like, I think that part, I show as much as I can show. But I try to protect those in my life or not. Like, I signed up for this. They didn't. What do you think the biggest misconception of you is? I think people are getting to know me more now through my podcast,

two T's in a pod, than they did on the show. because I think when I went on that show, I had had so many years wanting to be on TV and wanting this to happen. Then I went on. I was significantly younger than everybody else. I didn't have any authentic friendships at that point, and it just felt forced.

But like anybody that's, you know, now those girls that are on the show have become my true friends. Like times that have changed. But that took growth and time and knowing each other. But anybody that knows me knows, like, I don't take myself that seriously. Like as much as I did on the show, like, I really am kind of a shit show and try to embrace that and have fun and can laugh at myself and, you know, not just have a stick up my ass.

No, of course. And that you fucking struggle with, you know, real life problems, anxiety and, you know, self-esteem and all the things, you know, I think sometimes there is this sort of perception that, oh, you have it all or what sort of what do you have to complain about? you know what I mean that kind of a vibe when the reality is we're all human and we all have our shit and a lot of the times

we silently struggle yeah and also knowing that it's going to come in wait like at the beginning of this year I remember I choose a word every year and the word I originally had chosen was cope

and then I was like that is a really depressing word yeah it is it doesn't have much optimism it's like just fucking grind and get through man like hold white knuckle it and i was like but i had to have that conversation with myself but it took me a little bit of time to kind of get there and i think that's okay we have to allow

each other and ourselves to get there sometimes we always expect everyone to show up as what we want them to be right from the get go it's not going to happen it's not reality yeah hopefully we get there but like give us all like you know the grace to yeah yeah that's great um all right um all right one last question, has your dad slept with any of your friends? Yes. Oh, really? Are you kidding me? Of course.

Really? Wow, because he's such the man, you know what I mean? It's like... Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. Has your mom slept with any of yours? No, because she's been with Kurt for, you know, 40 years, you know?

Yeah. Wow. But I say whenever it's about to happen, I'm like, this is on. on you. Yeah. Listen. You do you. And you're cool that you're like, whatever.

Like, you know. I'm like, I don't. If you, if you, to the females, I'm like, if this is something you, this is a road you want to go down. That's on you. But yeah. I mean, it hasn't happened in a while. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And then do you ever find out what kind of a lover he is? One of them tried to like talk to me about some of the things. I was like, I absolutely do not want to know. It's already hard enough for me to like see any sort of like connection or flirtation. And then one friend's like, listen today, I got to tell you, your dad, the things that he did took me. You're like, oh, you're like, wait a minute, shut up right now.

I can't I cannot like but luckily I can put him in like a different box like there's my dad box and then there's like the John Mellencamp box yes yes when did he drop the cougar like when did that go away well that like when it was when the record deals changed like he he did a transition because this cougar total horseshit was that just like a made up like I forget who the other big guy was from the 80s that had like a bullshit made up name um so no he was he was He was Johnny Cougar, then it was John Cougar, then John Cougar Mellencamp. Yeah. Then by the time he was in his final thing, he just said John Mellencamp.

It's so funny because your dad seems like a pretty straight shooter, a cool dude, and the record label, I could just imagine he goes, all right, here's we go, you're going to be called Cougar. And is he just like, what? Like, okay, I guess. Yeah, he was, well, at first he put up a fight, but then, you know, as a guy from Indiana, you know, with humble upbringings and doing all the things, like you go to New York and they're like, this is the name you're going to have and this is what you're going to wear.

Like, he tried to push back as much as he could, but, you know, it was, it was kind of an unheard of at that time. Right. He just accepted it. I mean, I can't speak for him, but as soon as he could change it, he did. Of course. Don't worry. I won't let him live it down.

Like, for his 70th birthday, I had happy birthday coogs and balloons all over the place. Like, everything was Cougars. He's like, I will honestly, Teddy. And I was like, you should get a couged. You should get a couged. Cougar tattoo. Oh, my God. You know my dad had a tattoo of my mom on his shoulder.

And when they got divorced, he turned her into Jesus. Oh, my God. That's amazing. Every time he's arms, it's just like my mom with him weird. Maybe it's why I have issues with facial hair. Oh, yes. There it is. All coming back around.

Well, next time I see you, well, I can't promise you anything. But I think you need to learn to like facial hair, you know, because it, It depicts a real man, a man who, you know, can hold his own. I can survive for at least three hours. On what? The crumbs from like food dripping onto your mustache? Yeah, no, but it's not like a big beard, you know what I mean? It's just, it's got sex appeal.

There's sex appeal there. No, I, listen. Come on. You have been with a man with a beard. I mean, my husband has one half the time and I have to tell him to get rid of it. even my child is like dad no like none of us want it around i know my daughter's like will you shave okay i just can't all right fine um well thanks for talking this was awesome thanks for telling your story thanks for having me fun chatting can you please do some more songs because they're my favorite

i know i get lazy i just it's it's such like an inspiration thing i just that's why i could never do Instagram for like a living, even though I do make some money off of it. It's so hard for me to fake post. Sometimes I'll sometimes I'll think I haven't posted in a month and then I'll just scroll through my photos from like a hundred years ago. I think, do I post this? Like I don't know. Fuck it. No, I don't want to do anything. You know. Yeah. Well, anyways, I do appreciate, I would appreciate it in other updated. And what's your podcast about, by the way, just so I know. So I do it with Tamara Judge, and she's on Real Housewives of Orange County. We recap all of the different franchises.

And then I have one called Popping Off. She's also from Orange County. But we talk about Vanderpump Rules, The Valley, essentially, like, all of that reality television show that you want to escape your life by watching, we recap it. I know. I love it. I'm a below-deck guy. Oh. Yeah.

I think you should try watching The Valley. I think you'd like it. Really? Oh, yeah, it does look kind of fun. It's kind of... It is it? I'm going to try it. It's such a disaster that you can't help. I love that stuff so much.

Yeah, it's so good. All right, well, hopefully I see you in Colorado. Hopefully see you soon. All right. Good talking. Bye. Bye. Well, that was fun for me. Learn some things.

Didn't know she didn't like my facial hair. It's a bummer. Very open. I love people who were just able to talk about their truth, their lives. You know, 15 melanomas or some shit. I mean, imagine that. Imagine that. Anyway, that was a blast.

I love talking. I'm just going to keep talking. Talking. All right, I'm going to leave now because I have things to do. You may think that I just sit here all day on the, this microphone talking to myself. Part of that is true. I talk to myself all day, just not on a microphone.

If I could have a microphone in my car or just like a, like a like a like a love mic and you could just hear what I say to myself, I can maybe make that a new podcast, you know, um, well, I got to come up with a title, but it's just me recording myself all day and you get to hear my inner thoughts because my inner thoughts are my outer thoughts like I will be in my car and just start talking to myself. Maybe I'll do that. Anyway, see, I'm doing it right now. I'm talking to myself out loud to you guys and you are riveted. I'm going to stop talking right now. Not to myself. I'm going to stop talking into the microphone to myself. I'm going to keep talking to myself, but I'm just going to stop talking.

All right, I'm out. The Super Secret Bestie Club podcast season four is here. And we're locked in. That means more juicy chisement. Terrible love advice. Evil spells to cast on your ex. No, no, no, no. We're not doing that this season.

Oh. Well, this season, we're leveling up. Each episode will feature a special bestie, and you're not going to want to miss it. My name is Curley. And I'm Maya. Get in here! Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. It's important that we just reassure people that they're not alone, and there is help out there. The Good Stuff podcast, Season 2, takes a deep look into One Tribe Foundation, a non-profit fighting suicide in the veteran community.

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