Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Live From the Rockies
Episode Date: September 23, 2020Kate and Oliver are finally back together in person on this week's episode of "Sibling Revelry." They read a few listener emails, share what they've been up to, reflect on the importance of family, an...d more.Executive Producers: Kate Hudson and Oliver HudsonProduced by Allison BresnickMusic by Mark HudsonThis show is powered by Simplecast.This episode is sponsored by Coors Light.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hi, I'm Kate Hudson.
And my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.
And what it's like to be siblings.
We are a sibling rivalry.
No, no.
Sibling rivalry.
Don't do that with your mouth.
Sibling, revelry.
That's good.
Oliver.
Yeah, we're sitting in, we're together.
This is the second time since COVID that we've done a podcast together.
We're back.
We're in Colorado.
Yeah, sipping on Coors Light.
Sipping on Coors and Juice
Sipping on Coors and Juice
Do you know what
I actually brought a Coors Light
I should put it on right now actually
It's funny it's an old vintage
Coors Light tank top that I got a long time ago
They should bring back their retro gear
They have
But I'm you say tank top
You know I've been buying Tank Top
tank tops.
Oh, it's like, I don't even, it's like my least favorite thing you've ever done.
I have six tank tops.
I can handle the kicks.
The tank tops, they make me throw up a little bit in my mouth.
It's part of the whole thing.
It's shoes and tank tops.
I think I look cool.
I think you're, I think the tank top thing isn't really for you.
It is, though.
You know, remember Dax used to wear it.
He's a tank top guy.
I know.
And look at how successful he is.
And headbands.
Yeah.
So.
He loved his tank top.
He still wears tank tops.
Yeah, well, it's his thing.
What's my thing now, too?
Dax, you hear that?
Always coming for you.
You just need some headbands.
You know, but I've got to say that I have been in a bit of a style shift.
Oh, God.
Is this really what this episode's going to be about your style shift?
No, because I'm finding my identity, I think.
My style identity, and it started with my started with,
shoes my obsession you know has been growing and growing and then i work from the ground up ground up
fashion with oliver hudson by the way great segment we should start with the shoe and then you put the
outfit together yeah that's that's what's been happening that would be developing a style and the tank top
has sort of you know worked itself into my repertoire right it's nice i like it i like where i'm going it makes
me feel good. There's a bit of offbeat vibe to my new style, you know, but then I'll mix
in some traditional. I mean, I appreciate that you're enjoying this. You know, that's good. That's
good for you. Thanks. That's nice. Thanks. So, let's change this subject.
So we're in Aspen. We are not in California right now. You know, we were lucky. We were lucky.
enough to come up here. You know, I just want to send a lot of love out to all the
firefighters and all the people who are being, you know, that are just devastated by these
fires that are in the center of it. Because it's pretty brutal.
It's crazy. We know what that feels like and it's scary. So, um...
We also did a photo shoot, though. Can we talk about that? Yeah. Well, we can't tell what it is,
but we did. We did a photo shoot up here. I'm a cover. I'm a cover model.
Yeah. Oliver was, you know, he was, you were hurting through the, through the shoot. You know, you
You were very hot over.
I know.
I came over to wake you up.
And I was like, and you had the sort of like glassy-eyed, been out too late.
Well, I played in a golf tournament, and I drank in the day.
I drank two days.
And then it just sort of ruined me.
I'm discovering that that's, I'm 44 now, and I can't put it down like I used to.
It just hurts too much.
Yeah, but you still do.
I fight it.
I fight through it.
It's like you're holding on for dear life.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
You know what I think would be fun.
We haven't done one of these in a while, which is just the two of us.
Yeah, I know.
But we should start with an email because we haven't read an email.
And, you know, we love our submissions.
We love when people write in and we've gotten some.
What? You love being submissive?
Gross.
That's disgusting.
That's disgusting.
Yeah, so the submissions, the submissions are great.
All right.
Allie, go for it.
Here we go.
My name is Allison. Allison.
Allison. I like our producer.
My name's Allison. I'm 17 years old and just came upon your podcast a couple of weeks ago and I've listened to every episode since.
In the episode where you read fans' emails, I completely related to the woman's submission that talked about grieving her bipolar sister as she's still alive.
It seemed like a God moment because the reason why I really fell in love with this podcast is because I'm going through the exact same thing.
my dream since I was a little girl was to become a mom
and being in the midst of heartache with my only sister
and frustration with God
had me start to lose hope of how great siblings could be
or that I wouldn't do the right things to let them have a special bond
hearing y'all speak about your relationship gives me hope that I can still have a
close family even if mine right now seems to be breaking
it's hard to find positive podcasts that still make you think
but this one hits the spot.
I love hearing your psychological talks
and also y'all just messing around with each other.
It's such a bright light in my life.
So I just wanted to say thank you.
That's sweet.
Alison, thank you for writing in.
That means so much.
It's so sweet.
And we're so happy we could, I don't know,
bring some kind of levity or, you know,
good feelings towards such a hard, hard situation.
It's just nice.
It's nice to know that, you know,
we're sitting here talking and bullshit.
and, you know, half the time say stupid things
and half the time we're saying things that are relatable.
And not only that, but it seems like Allison here
actually heard another voicemail that we had read.
And so there's a connection, you know.
It's fun.
We don't even have a name for our fans.
Oh, my God.
I mean, what do we call them?
Like, revelrys?
Ugh.
Our sibs?
are Sib monsters
But it's nice to know
Sib Nation
It's nice to know that Sib Nation is connecting
Oh, Siv Nation's good
Isn't that like
Bronco Nation?
Bronc Nation isn't that all the sports teams?
There's a lot of nations
There's a lot of nations
Sib Nation
But anyway, we'll come up with that
But it's nice to know
It should be like the Sib lots
Like the Sib
Ladies
How about the Siblings
I like
Cibnation
But yeah
It is nice
It's also nice
Just to know that
Like I think it's important
To say that as you feel Allison
You know writing to us
Like when we hear that
We do feel like we're connecting to you
And that it is a reciprocated
Good feeling
And it means so much to us
That you're feeling good
When you listen
and um well and there's also like let's just talk real quick you're not the only one you know what I mean
it's so it's so easy to feel alone I mean you know the other thing is is we're living in a time where
we know that that mental illness is being exacerbated by this by the isolation and quarantining
and people not being able to live their lives as they normally did and so anyone who suffers
from things like bipolar disorder or borderline personality disorder
hell even narcissistic personality disorder it's be very heightened so i think it's particularly hard for
families right now that have family members like that i know so we feel you alison and and thank you
for writing in um all right hey kate and oliver hey just a short background story of why siblings mean
everything in this world to me growing up we actually had a very fun childhood we did whatever we
wanted. My mother struggled with her mental health a lot as my dad chose drugs every chance he had.
Growing up, me and my sister basically raised our brothers. At one point, my brother, Caden,
called my sister mom. It was this dramatic thing in our family. Anyways, as time went on,
her mental health just kept declining. Eventually, my mother was unable to handle four kids on her
own, and my dad obviously was nowhere to be found. We eventually lost our mother to suicide.
which still is very hard as my brothers grow into wonderful men.
And my sister is married, and me and my sister took on college.
It has its days.
Our family took on the role of raising us, which was really, would have been unnecessary
as we basically raised them on our own.
My siblings are my inspiration, my drive to do better, my happiness, and most of all
my home.
Our trials in life have made us wise beyond words and have brought us together like no one I know.
It is great to listen to you guys, to hear about all the different trials.
face in life. A sibling bond is something rare and hard to find. As I know, many who are not close,
we have learned over the years to cherish each other and always have one another's back.
Thank you for speaking about something many do not. I love hearing about how much you guys love
each other. Hard days always test your strength, which is something we all need sometimes.
You guys are great, wishing you the best. Stay safe. Brit. That's from Britt. I love Britt. Britt, I love you.
that was beautiful it was beautiful beautiful made me emotional and just says so much about how strong
you are i know honestly makes me think family i mean you know who am i have no one who the
you read this shit and you're like i have problems i mean i go to therapy i think i have fucking
issues i mean look at the strength that britt has and her siblings dealing with that growing up i'm
like you know my dad left but had a great step i mean we all have our shit
Shit, but when you read stuff like this, you realize that there's true strength and grit and togetherness and love to get through that shit.
I think that everybody's, everybody's human experience is different and pain and suffering is subjective and that one person's pain can't be measured by someone else's or happiness and, you know, this person.
So I always refrain from ever even saying like, well, look at that person and, you know, because we're all wired so differently.
And I think the thing that we can learn from someone like Britt or this is this, is this email is that that you can get through the hardest, but you still need the.
support of somebody you know support is huge like they had and what she said four siblings yeah yeah
yeah i mean you know they had a a family like they needed each other you know they had to rely on
each other and they you know for their literally for their survival and um and we all have that
survival capacity it's just a matter of how we tap into it's a great point because you almost
don't know what your capabilities are until you're pulling
to that place to survive, you know, I think about that, not to get morbid, you know,
but you think about losing someone, losing a family member, losing a child, all of these
things. I mean, I think naturally you sort of think about what that might feel like.
And I'm like, I won't be able to survive. Yeah, I mean, you say that to me all the time.
I'm like, I'm not going to make it. I won't make it, you know. You would make it. But you make
it. I mean, you have, there's a survival instinct, I think. Well, I mean, you don't have to,
but you do have to make a choice to.
to move forward or not.
You know, I mean, it is a, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's, it's, but I mean.
But it sounds like Brits doing, I mean, her and her family.
I just love the story.
Yeah, and like, she's talking about her brothers being like the most amazing people.
But anyway, we love these submissions, by the way.
They're really, you know, these were two, a little more serious ones, but amazing nonetheless.
Sometimes they're funny, sometimes they're crazy, but we love hearing them.
So keep writing us.
Go to Sibling Submissions at gmail.com.
You know, tell us who you guys want on the podcast, share your stories, comments, whatever.
Talk about how handsome you think I am.
Make me feel good.
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What?
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I had a Coors Light, Oliver.
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How great is it to be in nature with our kids?
It's the best.
Well, last, how fun was last night.
Let's tell everybody what we did last night.
I mean, it was just a family night.
But it was just fun.
I mean, it's those moments, and we'll talk about it in a minute,
but it's those moments where you just sort of stop for a second
and look around.
and pay attention to what's happening, and you're like, this is cool.
Yeah.
You know, you almost have to stop and see it rather than be in it just for a split second.
Right.
And then you can appreciate it.
Be an objective observer.
I saw you do that last night.
Yeah.
All of a sudden, you're like, this is just so great.
We're with the family and we're like making pizzas and there's wine flowing and the kids are running around.
Well, we were making homemade pizzas.
Mm-hmm.
On my big green egg.
You got all the great, like, you know, you made a popcorn.
pasta sauce and we had pesto and with all the different fun spreads and we did um uh you know we
had fresh mozzarella and parmesan fresh parmesan you made a good pizza i made a good pizza
it was a good pizza thanks yeah we start with the kids usually pepperoni cheese and then we get
into the fun stuff but uh it was just a great night and talk about it all right go ollie
Anthony Davis hit the motherfucking game-winning three with zero seconds on the clock.
We're talking about the Lakers, everybody.
It reminded me so much of Kobe Bryant.
They were wearing their Mamba jerseys.
The minute he hit it, I was screaming, and I was like, Kobe.
I was screaming Kobe.
And of course, AD, same thing.
He hit that shot.
And if you watch him, he mouthed, he screams.
He goes, Kobe, did you see him do that?
He did.
No, he's got that.
Boom. Hits the game winner. Does a jump, looks at the bench, and you see his mouth go, Kobe.
And they asked him about it after the game.
And said, did you say Kobe? And he's sort of a bit bashful. And he goes, yeah, I did. I did.
Kobe was there. They were wearing the Kobe jerseys.
Dude, that was an amazing moment.
My whole body has chills right now.
Great. Great.
That on top of the pizza. It was just amazing.
Yeah, that was. Honestly.
Sunday night football game.
Great game.
Great game. How about the Seahawks? I mean, he's amazing. Russell.
Russell's such a great quarterback. Yeah. It was just a great, it was a really fun night.
He's also one of the nicest guys. Russell, you know, is just like, you know, when you want, like, you meet kind of great athletes and you just hope that they're just cool.
And then some of them actually, they exceed your expectations. He's one of those.
He's just so nice.
But anyway, they had a great game.
Great night, great sports night, great pizza.
It was, it was a great night all around.
And you know what?
It's the first time in this sort of crazy world we're living in right now with COVID
and, you know, the sort of political polarization and divisiveness and people having such kind of extreme reactions to each other.
It just feels like everything is so anxiety.
written. I felt like last night it was like that's, you know, I wish you could bottle that
feeling and give that to everyone, you know, because I felt free. I felt connected. I felt loved.
I felt content. And you know, it's funny those you realize how, how you, you don't have those
moments a lot, you know, because they're special. So do you have, do we have to create more?
As humans?
I think you have to sometimes, even though, yes, like be in the moment, but then sometimes
you have to ask yourself why you maybe, I mean, I'm not saying this. I'm not saying this
like definitively. I'm saying this like maybe. Maybe sometimes you have to ask yourself what,
why you aren't having enough of those. You know, it's kind of a big question of mine right now.
Why do we live in L.A.? I mean, I know why I have to live in Los Angeles. But this is,
all of our happy places. We're just happy here. Why do we live in L.A.? Well, the other thing, too,
is we're lucky in a sense. We have a very tight family, you know, but it also reminds you to sort
of try to heal the visions within your family. We, you know, we had a really close friend just
pass away tragically. And it's just horrendous and horrible the way it all happened. And it's just horrendous
and horrible the way it all happened,
but it does make you stop and think for a second.
You know, I know we hear this all the time
and death brings that a little bit, you know,
of just needing to come together
or realize how special it is to be together,
to have a solid family,
and to find love in places where it may not be anymore, you know?
I mean...
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I love that you bring this up
because I think maybe this could be helpful for a lot of people,
like just being able to talk about it because you can't help in moments like that.
I mean, of course you grieve, but you also can't help but kind of think about how you are with your family
and how fragile life is and how it is really unknown, right?
I mean, we just don't know what's going to happen.
And then if there is any division inside of the family or differences of opinion or, you know, there was a part of me that, you know, sort of the surrender of like it being okay to be wrong or it being okay to be vulnerable with each other or it being okay that you don't have all the answers or that someone is upset.
with you or, you know, anything like that there's something bigger at play internally in your
family, which is that you really do unconditionally love each other. I think, so one of the
things that I thought about during this was acceptance. If someone in your family makes a choice
that you think is not in their best interest, that you can still love them through it,
that you can accept that that's their life and their choice. And, you know, and, you can accept that that's their life and
not create division and and and that was something that came up with me you know that i thought about
a lot you know after after our friend passed away and and how because in those moments like
everything goes away in that moment when you lose someone you just wish you had them no matter what
no matter what their differences are yeah well i mean it's you look there are some people who might be
who have had relationships
or lack of relationship with parents
for very good reasons.
You know, there's obviously horrendous things.
Right, right.
The forgiveness has to happen without connection.
Right, well, let's put that aside, you know.
But, you know, it just doesn't matter enough.
That's the thing, the little things.
It's not worth having bad feelings for.
All those little sort of bullshit things
that disagreements and sort of, you know,
not being on the same page and there's a lot of division that can happen that really doesn't it's not necessary
because you can just let if you can just let it go let things go i mean it's so much easier to let
things go okay so i'm going to go on a limb here because what you're saying is is is also so hold on
too tight well i think that everyone so i think that the political landscape right now is a good
example of how things can go in families, right? So for instance, bear with me on this one. It's
just a theory, right? But like, let's just take your own interpersonal relationships in your
family. And one of the things I think that happens a lot, and I hope, and I think this is relatable to a lot
of families, I know it happens in our family, is one person in the family thinks they know what's in
the other person's best interest or thinks that they know what that person needs and the way that
they communicate that to that person is not in a way that makes them that it that doesn't turn it
inward meaning it becomes an act or a type of communication that the other person feels like
they then need to defend themselves and i think that's where people get into
arguments, they feel unseen, unheard, not understood, all of that, right? And then it creates
more and more turmoil. And the same thing happens in politics right now. You have so many people
thinking that they know the answer to what is in everyone else's best interest. There's a lot
of talking and a lot of not listening.
There's a lot of bravado.
There's a lot of false promises.
There's a lot of I know what's best.
And all you do when you create that kind of communication is create polarization and divisiveness.
All you're going to do is make other people feel like you're not listening.
Anyway, so family.
Okay.
so we're just like having so much fun and um i know but i think it's interesting because we do
come from a very politically different like everybody has different politics and ideas in our
family you know no i'm green party
let me tell you about the green party i saw when i was biking down to basalt
oh that big feet that big farm oh it's so beautiful i know a lot of them there's hundreds of plants
Oh, it's so...
Outdoor grow right out in the open.
Outdoor pot, field.
It was like so cool.
I know.
And then Danny, you know, we were thinking of maybe...
You could smell it, too.
You could smell it, too.
...to sort of, you know, maybe get our own sort of farm up here.
And Danny was like, riding back, he's like, can we grow a field?
I was like...
We were only allowed six unless you get permission.
How do you get permission?
I think you have to apply for, you know,
know growers permit and I don't know wouldn't it be cool to have a field in the valley god it would
be amazing I so Oliver is is now he was sort of like yeah right you're not going to get a house
and now I have a feeling he's going to make me get the house so that we can grow okay i mean
kate comes when kate's in colorado it's like what do you where are you going she's in the car
like we're going to look at houses like every day I mean they look at every house in this valley
for maybe six years.
And I'm like, Kate, I dare you to pull the trigger.
I'm challenging you to pull the trigger.
Listen, if I wasn't, if I wasn't busy with all the things that I do, I, I would flip houses.
Yeah.
I love it.
It's so fun.
Mm-hmm.
You know, finding, like, property that kind of, I also like finding little, like, you know, diamonds that people aren't really seeing.
I, yeah, so.
Well, let's just do a wrap up.
Okay
Well, that was fun
Well, here, you know what
We haven't done this in a while
I know, and how much more fun is it doing it in fucking person?
It's so much better
I'm so excited because we're going to be doing
Someone very special tomorrow
Yeah, to me
And I'm glad we're doing it in person
With this, you know what I mean?
We'll at least be together.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just can't wait till we can actually have guests back
in the old living, the old den.
Yeah, but by the way, we could probably do some outdoor social distancing Zoom, you know.
It's just so different and so much more fun and connected and you feel the thing.
I know.
I'm sick of Zoom.
Sorry, Zoom.
Didn't invest in your company.
I know.
I'm just sick of Zoom.
Oh, that's why you're sick of Zoom.
I'm over Zoom.
I'm over it.
I'm zoomed out.
I like the Zooms.
I'm zoomed out.
Because it means that I don't have to drive anywhere.
I know, but it's always cutting out and it's fucking, I can't hear.
There's a delay and, you know, it's testing.
You're also already wishing you were on a golf course or fishing or doing something.
I got back into golf.
I do want to say this, you know, before we leave, you know, my brother, you know, I asked if he could, we were shooting this with this cover of a magazine.
That was a cover model.
And Oliver, I called him because, you know, it was getting hard.
The logistics were getting difficult.
And everybody had to come up here.
And there was no flights.
And, you know, so I called Ollie and I'm like, hey, listen, you know, how would you feel about just coming down for one day doing the shoot?
It would be easier for everybody.
It would cost way less money.
And he just was, he was literally about to go on a bike ride.
He's like, ugh.
no. And I went, what? And he goes, no. I was like, what do you mean? That's the bike ride. I almost
died on it. Yeah, which should have been, you should have called me right after that and said, yes, I will come. But no, it was a hard no.
A hard no. And I got off the phone. I was like, he would, like, you know, these things are important for, for, you know, getting people to know that we have our show out there and that we love doing this together.
and kind of creating whatever that brand is.
These are things that you, you know, are important to being Oliver.
It's just like, no.
But I'd have to drive 13 hours for one day and then drive back 13 hours.
I know, but here's the question.
For the cover.
Here's my question.
I can be a cover model.
I'm a cover model.
You knew I'd make it happen.
Yeah, but.
Because you know that that's how, that's what I do.
But it was supposed to be up here, though.
Anyway, we were supposed to do it up here.
Hold on.
And now guess who's up here having the time of their fucking lives.
But that's not the point.
The point is this.
If it was you alone on the cover of the magazine, would you have said...
It might be, by the way.
Would you have said...
Oh, fuck.
All right.
I got to go back to L.A. guys.
No.
You're so full of shit.
No way.
I would have said...
You're lying.
No.
Oliver, you would have not said no to a cover of a magazine by yourself.
No, I don't, I hate that stuff.
Oh, my God, you're totally lying.
I swear to God, if they gave me a private plane or something.
Oh, my God, you are so spoiled.
Yeah, fine.
You have no hustle.
I do.
I don't want to hustle 13 hours, though, in my car to get home and then do a one photo shoot and then come back here.
It's not worth it to me.
Why, but you could just spend a couple days.
Cost benefit analysis.
Do some work in L.A.
I mean, you could have made it.
You could have made it.
See, Ollie, Ollie.
There's no work in L.A.
I'm glad we got this.
got that up. I'm glad I got that out.
Anyway, thanks for listening.
I was going to say, no, but what I really was going to say is, I love you.
I love being here together.
I know, it's fun.
I love when the kids are so happy together.
It's just the best.
It's just the best.
It's amazing.
We're lucky.
We're very fortunate.
And, um, yeah, and that's it.
Love you.
See you tomorrow.
Until, uh, till tomorrow.
Yeah.
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Producer is Alison Bresnick.
Editor is Josh Windish.
Music by Mark Hudson, aka Uncle Mark.
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