Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Manifest This with Anthony Anderson

Episode Date: November 10, 2025

He’s one of the greatest comedic talents of our time, but Anthony Anderson doesn't depend on laughs alone to make it in Hollywood. He tells Kate and Oliver why he had to stop 'wanting' in order to start manifesting the life of his dreams. Plus, the delicious endeavor that has Anthony cooked, in the best way.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a... Sibling Ravelry. No, no. Sibling reverie.

Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling Reveory. That's good. How was last night? It was amazing. It was really great. It was a great night. It was just like so many amazing women.

And it was the power of women. variety honors you know we were like five of us were honored for the work we do outside of like you know acting and um and it was great it was so it was great it was it was it was it was I had all my girlfriends there and all I wanted to do is hang with my girlfriends but there was no time we were just listening to a bunch of speeches so we were all like wanted to hang and then we couldn't I know I heard the speech was good Scotty said he helped you write it yeah the speech was great the speech was really great. And yeah, he's he's a good editor. Scotty's a good editor. Scotty is my brother on running point. Yeah, slowly taking over like the real brother role. There's lines that

getting blurred. But yeah, he's he helped me kind of edit, you know, I overrode it. But it's such an interesting concept like to be powerful like what is it what does that mean you know because that's such it's a polarizing actually concept like it's amazing you need it is vital for your life and for your life force but then it's also so destructive and can be so destructive yeah you know so like when i started thinking about it i was like what a crazy word to you know the power of women and like because the power can be amazing and used in these amazing ways, or it could be, like, really destructive. Well, also, there's different degrees of power

and different contexts of power, you know? I mean, you're a powerful woman in your own home when you're raising your children, you know, you're a powerful woman with your friends or with... That's right. But also, like, but there's also so many aspects to it, like, what does it mean to, like, where does it come from? Someone on the carpet was like, you know, where do you get your power from?

I was like, my vagina? How did you say that? I was like, I think my vagina. But, you know, but there's so many things that go with it because like powerful, like, it's not like a destination. Do you know what I mean? Like to be powerful is. into destination it's actually something you have to like it's used in everyday life like you know literally like how people harness their own power is so specific to them mm-hmm you know yeah

some people they're waking up in the morning and getting up and having a positive day means they've the harness like a great powerful day for themselves that's what I'm saying like it can be minuscule or it can be big yeah and sometimes being powerful can be really relinquishing your power because you're not in it. That's right. Or like what I say, it's like the power of women is, which is the ability to be able to connect the head and the heart at the same time, you know, because we're so into, women are so intuitive and we're, you know, we're empathetic, we're nurturers by, biologically, you know,

by nature, where we lean more towards that. When they introduced you, did you walk out to the power of love? I forgot No, it was a Rolling Stone song I was like this is the best Oh, you should have in Huey Lewis Don't take money Don't take fame

Don't need no credit card That's the best Oh my god It's the power I was listening to another Hughie Lewis song the other day Which was It came up

Oh it was the best Someone said something thing. And we, you know, our family, this is it. That was it. Let me know. If this is love, you've got to let me know. Go, go. This is it.

I love that's a child. I know. And we had this whole moment with, you know, because we're wrapping up our second season. And we were laughing because every time someone says something, I can think of a song because that's like our family's superpower for some reason. and I broke into it because I think Ike or someone said well this is it and I was like this is it let me know

I'm gonna play that song when I know you're in the car by the way do yourself a favor and blast some Huey Lewis in the car yeah it's so good it's the best Huey Lewis is the best and when you saw that documentary about Quincy when he did the um that the show you know when he did the song. Yeah. It was so great to see.

Huey Lewis was so, he was the coolest guy in there. I loved his vibe, you know? Of course, with all these like Whitney Houston and my little, he was like, what am I doing here?

He was so cool. He was so humble. All right, we have Anthony Anderson. Is he here? Oh, great. He's been a friend of mine for a long, long time.

Yes. Yeah, let's bring him in to see if he feels that he is powerful. Powerful. Hello. Hello. Hello.

What's going on? How's it going? There's two of yous. Hey, you know what? I always have to watch my back. Okay, okay. I have a quick question. Kate, where the hell are you because Oliver looks like he's in his closet.

I mean, I can see his dirty drawers. Kate's like an English countryside. side. It looks like she's in a dark English manor. She's actually a universal city at the Harry Potter exhibit. I'm in my son's room, man. Like, I don't have my own space in this house. So I just have to find any place that I can settle down in.

And yes, his crisis is open. We get to see. what this little bastard is wearing here look at this look at this shit oh no oh no but you know what you're responsible for this me he's 15 he's no no no no if he wants to live in shit he can live in shit well aunt i've known you for a million years but i know nothing about your background like where did you go up do you have siblings like where are you how did this all start first of what kind of researches do you have on you your podcast you can have this information we did we We do. We do. It's right here.

But the, but the, but the, but we do it so that you answer their question. Okay. Okay. Oh great. You know? I can, I can, I can read it. No, don't read it. I can read everything about you. It's boring that way. So listen, uh, border raised in Compton, California. I knew that.

That's, that, that you knew. Uh, three siblings. Uh, I'm the oldest of four. Three boys and a girl. Um, my, my sister's the youngest. Unfortunately, I lost my younger brother, 155, 23, 24 years ago. Damn. Yeah, a car accident while he was a student in playing football at West Texas A&M. So it's two brothers and a sister now, me, my younger brother under me, and my baby sister.

what's crazy my father before he passed had plus size women clothing stores and they were called three Ds and an angel

named after our children and the Ds stand for devils but he put that on the sign outside so there's basically three devils in an angel clothing store from a three boys genius So that was that That's so cute

Yeah. And your mom? I know mom. I know mom. Yeah, yeah. I would know of mom. Oh, yeah. Mom was doing well. She's in Carson, California. She is, she's an actress now, but before then, was a telephone operator for one of the hospitals here. Well, actually for the county of Los Angeles. But always wanted to be an actress. And it never worked out for her because she's horrible. And I made it to a position where I could actually give her her chance, just to live out her wildest dream. Which you did. I mean, she's in everything that you touch now. Yeah, I'm making a point to do that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's amazing. Yeah, yeah, but she's doing well. It's a little too early for her to be in the bingo hall, but it's Thursday to be at a bingo hall at 6 o'clock today. How old is your mom? She's 73. She's 18 years my senior.

Yeah. No, 17. 17. 17. So she's 72. She's only 17 years. So she's 17. She had you when she was 17.

Uh, yep. And her and your siblings? What are the age differences? I have no idea. Do you know how old your siblings are? I have no idea my whole mind is. My brother told me how old he was.

I was like, fuck, you're that old? I mean, that I don't know how old my siblings. are what do you mean no the age differences like are you close in are you all close in age

oh my brother's and I are I am I'm 55 I think my brother is turning 50 this year or no no he's I'm four years older than my brother he's turning 51 he's turning 51 this year

my my my deceased brother would be 49 but crazy about them I just tell you're my parents, they like to make the love around the same time every year. My brother's birthday are November 15th and November 16th, two years apart. Oh, my God.

Yeah, November 15th and 16, two years apart. They literally, it's mating season, they have a mating season. Exactly. And my sister, my brother is 41. My sister, my other brother would have been 49. I think my sister is 46. Oh, so you're all like pretty close. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And growing up, where'd you go to school? I went to Roosevelt Elementary in Compton, Wayley, Jr. High in Compton, and then I went to Los Angeles County High School for the Performing Arts for high school. Did you know that? I mean, early on, did you know what you wanted to do? I mean, you were probably always funny, obviously.

You know, at nine years old, I knew. I wanted to play football for the Dallas Cowboys. You know, that was my dad's team, America's team at the time. I wanted to be a lawyer, and I wanted to be an actor. And at the age of nine, I realized that if I became an actor, I could be all three of those things and whatever else I wanted to become. common life. And so I decided to be an actor. And it happened this way. My mother was in a production of a Raisin in the Sun at Compton Community College. And I was in the back of the theater with my two

brothers. We were just playing as my mother was on stage and rehearsing. And I just happened to look up on stage one day. Went from playing with our toys or whatever we were doing, just happened to look up. And I saw them doing their thing on stage and I said that is what I'm going to do with the rest of my life and I went back to playing with my brothers and here we are I know years later what had been but what was it what was the thing you know was it just the did it did it correlate to you growing up to childhood to sort of you know becoming something else to immersing yourself in something different I also think it's interesting that you were little and it was raised in the sun which is pretty heavy.

Yeah. I'm like incredibly heavy. And you're like, I'm going to do that. First off, when I look back, I was like, what kind of prediction was this if my mother was in a room? I was like, I didn't know it was a comedy. But, but yeah, yeah, it was that. And I don't know. Oliver, you know, I realized that at a very early age, I realized that my energy was put on this earth to entertain.

I was able to recognize that, that, you know, this is why I'm here. Call it naivete or foolishness, but this is all I ever prepared to do in life. And since that moment, looking up on stage, I put myself in position to learn, to study, to do anything. Any chance I got to have a captive audience, I took it. My pastor wanted me to sing his favorite song, Amazing Grace in Church, even though I couldn't sing. I got up and sang in front of the congregation. If there was a spelling bee at school, I was the first one to join. If there was somebody that the teacher asked to read aloud, I always raised my hand.

Any chance I got to have a captive audience be in front of someone. somebody and to do what I wanted to do, I did. And I started doing that at nine years old. And I was like, yo, this is it. It wasn't an adrenaline thing. It wasn't like, I want to be a star. I was like, no, this is why I'm here. I'm supposed to be, I'm supposed to have the captive audience.

Did you do theater? A little bit, a little bit. But not until like high school when we were doing plays in college, But before then, you know, found myself in little things. I always found an acting class. I always found a class to hone the craft. And that started maybe around 11, 12. Were you, did you study with anybody?

Do you still study with people? Or do you know? I haven't in a while. I used to take a class. This gentleman by the name of Tony Greta, I would take his classes and just things that I did in school or whatnot. But he was the only private coach that I had in my career. So one of the trips I'm most grateful for was this summer in Greece, and it was amazing. And the whole family was together.

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and Wilmer Valderrama as part of the MyCultura podcast network available on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Going back just a second, growing up, like, what was your household like? Was there a lot of freedom, you know? Was it strict?

Or was it like, go do your thing, you know, just be home before dark type stuff. No, it was free, man. You know, I grew up in a time where I was a latchkey kid, you know. I'm the oldest of four children. So it was, you know, I was like the second parent, you know, getting my younger brothers from daycare and all that. And then just having the house to ourselves growing up. fucking I had the Yale

house key on a shoe string over in the deck you know that I would get my brother's sisters I come home unlock the door get in the house lock the door and then we would just

you know we would have our freedom until my mom came on until my dad came home from work so yeah and my mother you know again this was all she ever wanted to do so she was very supportive of me in the arms

That's so great. Did any of your other siblings, does everybody pretty artistic, like, or leaned towards the arts? My brother, who is deceased, he had a knack for art, you know. So this is, gosh, 30, 35 years ago, my brother would make art out of aluminum foil, you know, which was just amazing. He would take family portraits and he would not re-purpose them, but create a family portrait out full figures of people out of aluminum foil and paint them.

And I always wanted to, I always thought it was so intricate and so beautiful that me and my other brother was like, yo man, this needs to be on display. You know, this, people need to see this. And so for Christmas and his birthday, his birthdays, all he wanted was aluminum foil just to create things, man. He created the Starship Enterprise one day, and that blew my mind. Wow.

Brother made the Starship Enterprise. Do you still have those pieces? I have a few pieces. He made a piece of my daughter. You know, you have my baby. It was maybe, not even two, maybe 18 months. You take those little cute portraits. Yeah.

Sent him a picture of it while he was going to college. And he made my daughter. He brought her picture to life in this 3B thing and painted her and all give her pigtails and everything. But yeah, so me and my brother, that was it. The other, my other brother, he's a trauma nurse at Martin Luther King Hospital. and in the ER and my sister, she works at another hospital in the building. When did you, when was your first, like, job job? Ooh, my first job job.

My first job that I got, I thought as an entertainer's order, I was Captain Craving. I was at Howard University and this gourmet dessert delivery company. needed a mascot. So they came to Howard, I don't know how I ended up at Howard, and they wanted an actor. And so they came into the school of fine arts. And they said what they were doing.

So I met with these guys, and I got the gig. And I shot this little commercial for them in D.C., this little regional thing for them. them and they loved it so much and they made me the mascot but my job was to actually this was this was this was um this was uber eats before there was uber eats i used to i had to deliver the uh the uh the dessert to uh to these offices i was like yo man i'm not acting i was like yo i'm gonna i'm a glorified delivery but it was my first

I can get it because I was in full costume. I was Captain Cravings. Oh my name. Captain Cravings is great. Captain Cravings, I had on a black pair of dance tights. I had on some Chuck Taylor's. Fortunately, there are no pictures to cooperate. I was going to say, where can we find these?

I had some bedazzled Chuck Taylor's. I had on a white cravings catering sweatshirt. I had on a pink cake I had on a silver a silver long ranger mask rhinestone

and books to match and on the back of the tape it said Captain Cravings and it said if you ever need to be saved dial 797 crave

and I had to fucking that was my first acting Now did you have to show up delivering things in the outfit that was the only way I could deliver the things. You must have gotten so laid. And the outfit

I said if you ever I said if anybody ever orders this from Howard University it will never be delivered by me. Oh my God. That's a good that's a good person. That's funny dude. That was my

first acting gig now my first professional good like what did you got your sad card? Yeah on my resume was I want to, it was a Roger Foreman film called Alien Avengers and I was in it

with George Wink and I'll never forget this at the end of the day I went to say goodbye to George and he was sitting out on the step of it we had these double bangers he was sitting on the step of his double banger with an ice chest full of beer

and I was like oh shit it's real it's real he really is the guy from tears I thought he had a beer with George went at the end of the day Alien Avengers the Roger Corman film was And were you

hyped? Was this just huge? Oh it was huge for me Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean, yeah It was huge for me It was one day's worth of work You know Maybe two scenes In something really campy

but it was fun and I got to work with some great people and I get to say that was my claim to fame that's how I got my sad card

what was the gig though that really made you believe and understand like oh shit like this is it this is now I'm

I'm on my way here you know what I mean my second gig it was a half hour comedy with LL Kooj and Debbie Allen on NBC

in the house in the house that's right that was your second gig that was that was that was my second gig and that was what year was that 90s that was 95 and and here's the thing I was the first person in my friend group to have a kid and I went to my boys so was I yeah I went to my boys to um tell them now mind you when I went to my boys place this was a place that had seven grown men living in a one-bedroom, one bathroom apartment.

And we affectionately called it the cave. So I went to the cave, you know, hang out with my boys and let them know that I was going to be a dad. And my boy, Adam Glass, went to become my writing partner and creating my very first sitcom all about the Andersons on the WB. We went out on the Breezeway. And he was like, what are you going to do? And it was just crazy.

I was like, I got to get me a TV show. And we laugh about it now because, you know, Zizade, he said, what are you going to do? I looked him dead and I said, I got to get me a television show. He walked off and two weeks later, I got a television show. Amazing, dude. But it was in the house. I did the first episode in November.

My daughter was born. I did the first episode in November, 1995. my daughter was born February 6, 1996, and the day, the morning of February 7, I'm laying with my daughter on my chest, and I'm in a refiner in the room. And my whole thing was, is you lived with your mother's heartbeat for the last nine months. The first heartbeat you're going to live with outside of your mother is mine. So I had her sleeping on my chest, and I only think I slept that entire night, I just stared at her. And at 6.30 that morning, my cell phone was,

it's my mom, she said, where are you at? I was like, oh, what are you? You know, I'm in the house, but I just had a baby. She says, well, NBC is looking for you. I was like, for what? To go to work on what? They need you back on that show you did with the rapper. I was like, in the house, she said, yeah.

I said, when? She said, eight-third her. And I was like, how do you? know this. Well, they dropped, this back in the day when they used to drop off scripts at your crib. Yeah. He's like, they dropped off a script last night, and it says you have to be there

at 8.30 today. And I was like, okay. So I hung up the phone, kissed my daughter, kissed my lady, and said, Daddy got to go to work. And I drove into work with pictures. I had Polaroid

had a Polaroid camera. So and I had another camera. So, I'm way to work, I went to one of one hour photo map places and I had the pictures delivered and I showed up at the table read with pictures of my newborn baby

and thanking them for this job because my baby was born the last night, not even 12 hours. I mean, fatherhood must have shaped so much of your career because you had her young. So

it must have been I mean, I would assume a driving, like definitely a motivating, a driving force. No, it was. It was. And it got me focused. You know, because at that time, I was, I was 25 at the time. Young. He's like, yo, I can, I can, I can, I can survive on my own.

I can, I can, I can make it on my own. But the moment my lady, uh, came home and told me she was pregnant with our kid, that, that, that, changed it everything for me because now I'm responsible for people I you know I can't go through life as like you're just figuring it out on the fly and as I go along because I I'm no longer a solo passenger you know I I have people with me now that you know are depending on me and I'm responsible for and and having my daughter got me focused on what it was that I needed to do as an artist. And once I got focused, it was just crazy. I realized that everything was always right before me. You know, I was just focused on other shit. And becoming a father,

um, opened my eyes for all the things that I needed to be doing, uh, in order to be successful at this is my dream. This is all I ever wanted to do with life. This is all I ever wanted. Did you always want to do comedy or did you, was that your focus? Or was it just to do whatever? He's an amazing, dramatic actor. No, I know, but, but, but you've really made millions and millions of people laugh, you know, which is, so I wonder, like, what was your, did you come into it wanting to do more of one thing? No, I just wanted to come into it and be an artist and just offer what I had. Uh, comment. was a way in. You know, I'm funny by nature. I, you know, I get it from, you know,

it came from inside my home. I get it, I got it from my mother. You know, I got it from my friends growing up and realized that, oh, I'm pretty good at this. Now, if you were to talk to my friends, they were like, Anthony was never funny. He was never funny. They were like, but I will tell you this.

He did always give you that one that would drop you to you to you to your need. We never know when we were going to get that one. But he would always hit you with one. They were like, oh shit, he's funny. But up until then, I was nothing. And they take pride until they're funny.

But it just happened. So one of the trips I'm most grateful for was this summer in Greece and it was amazing and the whole family was together that doesn't happen very often some sun a few laughs and my kids love anything adventurous so it was right up our alley and what makes those trips even more special is staying in a place on Airbnb because you're not just visiting you're living a local life for a while which makes the experience so much more memorable so if you're planning to travel this November it's also a great time to think about about hosting your own home on Airbnb.

And the best part, you don't have to handle everything on your own. With Airbnb's co-host network, you can partner with someone local to help manage your listing, your guests, and everything in between. Find a co-host at Airbnb.com slash host. In the heat of battle, your squad relies on you. Don't let them down. Unlock elite gaming tech at Lenovo.com. Dominate every match with next level speed, seamless streaming, and performance that won't quit.

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On health stuff, we're talking about health in a different way. It's not only about what we can do to improve our health. But also what our health says about us and the way we're living. Like our episode where we look at diabetes. In the United States, I mean, 50% of Americans are pre-diabetic. How preventable is type 2? Extremely. Or our in-depth analysis of how incredible mangoes are.

Oh, it's hard to explain to the rest of the world. Like, your mangoes are fine because mangoes are incredible, but, like, you don't even know. You don't know. You don't know. It's going to be a fun ride. So tune in. Listen to Health Stuff on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What do you get when you mix 1950s Hollywood, a Cuban musician with a dream, and one of the most iconic sitcoms of all time?

You get Desi Arnest, a trailblazer, a businessman, a husband, and maybe most important, Importantly, the first Latino to break primetime wide open. I'm Wilmer Valderrama, and yes, I grew up watching him, probably just like you and millions of others. But for me, I saw myself in his story. From plening canary cages to this night here in New York, it's a long ways. On the podcast starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderama, I'll take you in a journey to Desi's life.

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and Wilmer Valderrama as part of the MyCultura podcast network available on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Robert Smith. This is Jacob Goldstein, and we used to host a show called Planet Money. And now we're back

making this new podcast called Business History about the best ideas and people and businesses in history. And some of the worst people, horrible ideas and destructive companies in the history of business. Having a genius idea without a need for it is nothing. It's like not having it at all.

It's a very simple, elegant lesson. Make something people want. First episode, How Southwest Airlines Use Cheap Seats and Free Whiskey to fight its way into the airline business. The most Texas story ever. There's a lot of mavericks in that story. We're going to have mavericks on the show.

show. We have plenty of robber barons. So many robber barons. And you know what? They're not all bad. And we'll talk about some of the classic great moments of famous business geniuses, along with some of the darker moments that often get overlooked. Like Thomas Edison and the electric chair. Listen to business history on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Let me go back for a second. Because when you had the kid or your wife was pregnant, you're on the breezeway, and you said, all right, I got to get a job. And then two weeks later, you're getting a job. Where do you stand with your sort of spirituality, with this idea of sort of the universe of working hard to get

lucky? I mean, where are you with that generally? Great question. I believe it's, and I'm going to be all over the place with this answer, but it's going to make sense. It's all about, and manifestation, you know, and seeing those things for me, for seeing those things. I never, I stopped wanting for things in life a long time ago because I realized I would always want that girl. I would always want that car. I would always want to take that trip.

I would always want, I would want something. And I would never obtain it. I, it was always just outside of my grasp. and I realized a long time ago that in wanting for something all I did was create a want for it I never said that it was mine I never claimed it as my own I never saw myself having it I just saw myself wanting those things and I started to change the way that I thought and of things. And, you know, for meetings and auditions,

I have my own little personal mantra that I would say that I claim this as my own if it's meant for me to have. And if it's meant for me, it's meant for me. And if it's not, it's going to go to Kate. If it's not, you go to Oliver. And I can't be mad. And I figured that because it wasn't mine. So if I don't get the gig, if I don't get that,

it wasn't mine to get it. That's that. I learned that there's a higher power that we are connected to. And I realized this at a barely early age. I realized this when I was nine years old. I realized the power that we have. But in particular, the power that I had. And I tell people all this all the time. I was like, it's so simple that it's difficult because you can't believe that it's this simple to tap into that into the universe and claim and ask and all of that. I would always be up in Canada making these movies Toronto, Vancouver, Edmonton, all these Montreal and then one day I just said you know, I said to myself

I said I want to be out of the country and make a movie and I kept going back up to Canada and then I was like oh shit, hold on not that like we're going to go further I'm not being specific in my ask

and it goes into specificity right So I was like, well, you know what, let me change how I ask for these things. And I specifically said, the next movie I make, I will need a passport to enter the country and it will be overseas. And I say all that because at that time, all you needed was a birth certificate to get into Canada. And you just drive right up and you can be there. and and I said I keep asking for you know to make this

make movies out of the country and I keep ending up in Canada I got what I was asking for but it was coming to me in its most general form so it wasn't how I needed it how I wanted it smash cut to you in like Greenland I mean no no no no no that's what I was talking about so I after I specifically made my ass the next movie I make will be overseas and I will need a passport to enter the country or the next movie I make will be out of the country

I will need a passport to enter the country and it will be overseas. Three days later, after saying that, my manager calls and says, Hey, Ann, Jerry Bruckheimer is doing this movie in Australia. It shoots for six months. You're in a very short list. It's called Down Under.

He wants to meet with you. Down Under, then becomes kangaroo Jack. So I go into my meeting with Jerry O'Connell, who's already been cast in the movie. We go meet and we do a few scenes. Before I go into my scene, what do I do? I say my mantra. I claim this as my own if it's meant for me to have. I go in there, have one of the best auditions I have in my life.

A day or two later, you get a call, Anthony. Jerry Brookheimer loves you. The job is yours. Now, I also want to back up When I made the claim I never owned the passport I made the claim that the next movie I make

will be shot overseas The very next day I went to the passport office And I got a passport for application I filled it up And I went through the process of getting my very first passport And then I get the call That Jerry Brockhammer wants to meet me to shoot this movie in Austin

You're a manifester. Well, I was about to say that. So we've actually had people on scientists who believe in manifestation, but it's not like, oh, I want two feet of snow, so my skiing is good. It's deeper. And there's more physiological, actual science-based and backed sort of information on why manifesting can actually work, you know. And for you, and I think this is really important, because I was always skeptical about

it. But I'm wondering for you, how did that, how does that work itself out? Do you just speak it out loud to the universe? Is that kind of how you do it? Or do you get quiet or do you write it down? What is your process with that? My process is all three. Okay.

I speak it out loud because words are powerful. Yeah. You know, so that's why I watched what I started to watch what I say with regards to negative things. Not even about myself, but just putting negative energy out there. I got to work on that shit. Yeah. I speak it out loud.

I speak it in silence. I write it down. And in my other room over here, man, I have a bag of magazines and I'm putting together a vision board. So I do that as well. You do vision boards. I love that.

They did this thing that if you have a vision board or just this, the very thing you look at or you read or you focused on right before you go to sleep is a, is one of like the best tools of manifesting because your brain, that's what your brain start. That's what it basically like rests with that thought. But you know what kid? I need to start doing it. I, you know, sometimes I would think about those things and all that, but I've never really just looked at things like that before I went to sleep. Sometimes I'll take something and I'll be like, right before I go to bed you know

because the phone is just such a fucker like it's so awful for us you know so I sleep as it out I've gotten very ritualistic about my night because I believe in the power of words as well I believe in the power

of what you're putting out and all of the positive output you know like my I'm the kind of person probably like you or if my friends are talking shit they turn to me and they're like and I'm like what are you I don't do that. I don't know how to do that.

I'm like, someone could be awful to me and I could be like, they're probably having a bad day, you know? Yeah. But, but yeah, so I started doing that sort of visual thing,

like, what do I want to be putting out? Like, what, what am I looking for? Or what am I, yeah, I think it's important to,

it's work. You have to work at that because I'm not, I'm kind of speaking from, myself, but it feels like default is negativity in a way. You know, our default is fear from a primal place. Yes, human condition. It is.

It's our condition because that's how we survived. That's how humanity survived. Essentially was fear because that's how we, you know, succeeded or we're able to save ourselves. For anyone who's able to work in this business as an actor or as an artist and actually make some kind of living doing it, it might not be their full living, but some kind of living doing it is a privilege. It's an honor because it's so rare.

And for every one great artist, everyone great musician, everyone great actor, there's a thousand of them just as good that have never had the opportunity. This is what Brewer said, the director. Kate just did a movie called Song Song Blue. By the way, it's fucking amazing. She's going to be nominated for all the awards. Stop, Bali. No, she's incredible.

It's really amazing. But Craig Brewer, do you know Craig? Craig wrote and directed Hustle and Flow. well. Yeah, of course. That's right. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Wait till you see the movie. Yeah. Really? Okay. He's in his pocket. He gave a speech at the premiere, and that's kind of what he was saying, just, you know, about all of the other artists out there who have not hit, who are equally as good, if not better, than some of the major players in our business. Yeah. And that's exactly how it has been. You know, we all have our own individual journeys, you know, and I can't, when we can't, when we can't, can't compare our journey to the next person. We have no idea what it is that they've gone through,

you know, or what they're going through in the moment. All I can be concerned about is what I'm going through and what it means to me. Because if everything that I see that's out there, if I've claimed it as my own and I've been told that it is mine, I am going to get all that has been told is mine. And it has nothing to do with greed or anything. It's just like, no, I was told that that is mine right there.

That is mine right there. That is my. I'm going to get it all. Now, the other pieces that I leave behind, I'm leaving behind because those aren't meant for me. I wasn't told to, just because I have the ability to take it all, I'm not taking it all. I'm taking what was told was mine because that is for somebody else. Just like somebody came into this room and into this world and took everything. that was supposed to be meant for them,

they left these things behind because they were meant for me. That's how it is. It's cool. Yeah. Best believe, all the shit that I see that has my name tag on

is coming with me and I'm not going to leave it behind. It's coming with me. I love it. It's like, oh, that's my favorite fucking piece. Yeah, that's your favorite piece. Yeah, but it's my piece. Yeah, no, I love it.

That's inspiring, man. This has been great. Yeah, you know, it's my piece. Yeah, I love it. You can come with me and admire it all that you want. And I don't mind sharing it with you and all that. But best believe, motherfucker, that's mine. Yeah.

Barbecue. I have two traggers. I have a green egg. I have a Santa Maria grill. Like, I fucking love smoking and barbecuing. Okay. And I'm decently good at it. He is.

He's decent. You're really good. Yeah. I wanted to, I was more of the old school, you know, with what you're doing. You're building, you know, cues out of barrels. and really doing those, like, those, what are called, the offsets, you know? Yeah.

And then I found the trigger, and I know it seems like cheating, but it is so easy. I can set it and forget it, and it's fucking amazing. That's okay. You know, things are made to help people move along. Get what they got to do, man.

And I love it. Look, I got into barbecue because my dad was the youngest of 16, born in Little Rock, Arkansas, born on a phone. That's where our family's from. Little Rock! Yeah. Mom's, my, my grandpa is Little Rock.

That's where my dad's from Little Rock, Arkansas, youngest of 16 on the farm. Wow. So, you know, fucking, his brother was an Irish twin. He was, he's 11 months younger than my uncle A dad. So they were thickest fees and joined them to hit. So my uncle moved out to L.A., my father followed him. And so my dad would make his own barbecue pits out of 55 gallons. drummed, he well them himself, and so that's what I grew up in.

And so I had this opportunity to do this barbecue brand with Cedric the entertainer, you know, I'm a good friend and we're both chefs, we both love to eat, we both love to cook, and every time we take the fellas golf trip, Sadd and I are the ones in the kitchen cooking for the group. Yes. Yeah. I love him. Yeah.

He's the best. Best friend you can have in your life. Two, best business partner. And three, just an all-around great guy. And so we had the opportunity to, you know, start this barbecue lifestyle brand. And we did. We have, you know, we have three seasonings. We have a midnight smoke.

We have something we call the MVP. And we have a lemon, our take on lemon pepper. We call it the lemon stepper. And we have two sauces, all. day and our Caroline wine, our mustard baseball. Fun. Well, you said, can I, can I send us some? You both

are, you both are going to get a package of everything. You have to. Fun. You know, when did you start barbecuing? I mean, when did you start cooking? Oh, man, barbecuing as a kid. Yeah, you are. I got what my dad. My dad would, he would go fishing down a long beach, he would come home.

He would barbecue fish, smoke fish, barbecue rins. I mean, he's a big-ass country boy. That's what I did. Dude, you know, I have a boat. I catch two. I fished like my face off. That's my passion, you know. Those were the fans how I grew up.

So a young teenager, father taught me how to smoke, how to smoke, how to cook with wood, how to cook with charcoal. Yeah. And so it started at an early age. And I love it. I love it. Oh, that sounds so fun. I want to do a barbecue party.

Can we have a barbecue party? We have a barbecue party. Come on. I'm sure if we all, between the three. give us we have some of the best backyards that we can have a barbecue party. We get have the best barbecue party ever. Don't you have it?

Do you have a show about barbecue? We started. Seth and I created a show called the Kings of Barbecue basically to bring attention to us starting and building a business. Got it. So we were on A&A for a year. We did that and we're about to go back into production

and put it on YouTube and shoot these things. the interworking of, you know, two best friends in Hollywood starting a business. Yeah, that's great. You know, we were able to open a restaurant at the Westfield Century City Mall called AC Barbecue. That's right, yeah. It's up in the food court there.

We opened up in May doing pretty well and just having a great time doing it, and traveling the world. Fun. Well, it's funny because I have a deck. I created a deck for, I wanted to do sort of a low budget backyard barbecue show in my actual home.

And so it's almost like this reality unscripted of me cooking, but people come out. I had it sort of formulated where you get these other chefs coming in but it's just very sort of off the cuff. You're in my house and I am

not a professional. So it's definitely about the experience of getting a menu. Let me know. I want to be there for it, Oliver? Yeah, dude. I love it. I love it. There's so much joy in cooking and when people eat your food and like it's the heart of everything. Well, there are a few things in life that do that for me, you know, like fishing and there's certain things in your kids. But when you cook something amazing and your family is eating it and they're like, holy shit, this is unreal.

There's a pride. There's something that happens, some oxytocin dopamine that comes out. We were just like, oh, my God. There's an addiction to it. You love that fucking feeling. That's what I love about. Yeah, I love it too. It was crazy.

At the end of the day, I don't find myself eating anything. I don't either, do you? I just find myself feeding people and just enjoying them, enjoying what I was able to prepare for them. Yeah, that's my thing. Yeah, because they're like, you're going to make a plate? I'm like, no. I mean, I'll pick a little, but, like, you know, yeah.

Yeah. Well, we got to cook together, dude. Looking forward to it. Let's do it. Let's play some golf, too. By the way, my kids, my boys became obsessed with golf, which has gotten me back into the game. So I'm playing all of our kids.

It's like crazy. Hey, Oliver, bring them to the tournament, man. You always go up for sometimes. And they say, hey, Ann, I'm working around with the kids. Now that I know the kids play, bring them to the tournament. Let's do it. Wait, wasn't Cedric in the desert? He was at the desert.

Yeah, third week of May. This would be my seventh or eighth year. Yeah, I got to make it this year. You got to do it, Ollie. Fun. all right aunt you're the best thanks for joining us love you guys love you man thank you for having me on it was a great conversation yes sir we'll see you soon we'll see you soon you got it all right bye love that man he's the best it's the best always has been

the most wonderful energy i know every time i see him just always brings that incredible energy yeah he's just he's just always doing cool shit and he's so great yeah hustler works hard I got to go. I have a pitch that I'm going to be late for now. All right. I love you. I love you, too. I know.

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