Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Meet the Sandersons

Episode Date: December 6, 2024

Imagine finding out you have FORTY siblings? Ben Sanderson lives that reality every day. Find out why he had no idea he was one of forty brothers and sisters, and how he set out to meet these mysterio...us siblings.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:28 This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a siblings. Rearvary
Starting point is 00:02:59 No No Sibling Reverie Don't do that with your mouth Sibling Revelry
Starting point is 00:03:10 That's good We have a guest Ben Sanderson in the waiting room right now He was a product of sperm donation And You know Was fortunate enough
Starting point is 00:03:26 I guess at the age of 18 to actually figure out how many siblings he has and what a trip, you know. I'm not sure I'd want to know. I don't know. Maybe I would. I'm too curious. I probably would. Oh, it's strange.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Anyway, let's bring him in a minute. Let's talk. Hi, Oliver. How are you, brother? I'm good. How are you? I'm good. What's happening?
Starting point is 00:03:51 Nothing. Happy belated birthday. Thank you. Look at all those playbills up there. Let me guess. I know. You're an actor. No. No, no. No, I am. You're an actor. Yeah, they're all around my room, like the whole perimeter.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Are these plays that you have been to, I'm assuming? Been to or been in? Okay. Most of them have been to. Some of them have been in, yeah. What heights have we reached? Have we been on Broadway? No, no. I'm 19. Okay. But I do work professionally, mainly during the summer, because I am a student, yeah. Okay, so give me your story, man. Like, what happened? How did this happen, you know, as far as you being curious even? Because I guess it could go both ways.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I mean, in your sort of research of who your siblings might be, I'm assuming you found a lot that are very curious about their siblings and their bloodline and then others who just don't want to know a thing. right yeah um yeah you know every person is different and we all have very different i don't know boundaries um we all have very different stories like my story that everyone has been resonating with is one of 40 or one of 41 um we all have different stories we all come from very different backgrounds so um we all are very different in terms of like what this means to us. For me, I embrace all of this with the, like, open arms. I'm so public about being donor-conceived.
Starting point is 00:05:33 I'm so public about having 40 siblings. But a lot of my siblings are very private about it. Yeah, there are siblings I've never met. There are siblings I have met. Yeah, it really depends. For me, I am just, my God, I love talking about it. Have you become tight with any of them that you've met? I'd say so.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Like, I'd say, yeah, like, we talk often a lot digitally. So how do this all happen, you know, meaning at 18 years old is when you are able to look into all of this legally, correct? Yes. So I was raised by my single gay mom, and she told me from the womb that I was donor conceit. I don't know how she would lie about it, but because it was. She was like, you had a dad, he ran a band. I mean, she has been so supportive of all of this since the beginning, and I always knew I was donor conceived.
Starting point is 00:06:36 And I was told, I don't think it's in law, but I think it's in regulations with the sperm bank. It might be different now, but at least I was told when you turn 18, you can go looking for your half-siblings. My donor donated anonymously, So I thought I was going to die, never knowing his name, never knowing what he looked like. But I always wanted to look for my half something.
Starting point is 00:07:01 So it was about a year ago during the summer. It was during May of 2023 when I haven't actually shared this with anyone. I was doing a production of Into the Woods. The playbill is right there. And I was playing one of the princes. I was playing Cinderella's Prince. And in the show, he has a brother. And it was like, week three of rehearsal and, oh, God, this sounds so geeky.
Starting point is 00:07:30 But I was like, I need to, like, connect with the fact that he has a brother. Like, what does that mean? And I was like, well, I don't know. I don't have her brother. And I was like, wait. Oh, my God. I do have probably multiple brothers. And so this all started out of, like, me trying to connect with the character.
Starting point is 00:07:47 All right. Oh, my God. Like, siblings, if you're listening to this, I love you so much. And that's, and I, it was a dream finding you. But that's how it started. I was like, wait, I want to, like, connect to having a brother. I don't know what that's like. Wait, I could maybe know what that's like.
Starting point is 00:08:05 So I called my mom and I was like, hey, mom, you know how I probably have half siblings? And we logged on to the donor, I don't know, website. And there was contact information for one of my sisters from like 10. years ago. And she manually had, like, written an email. And I was like, I don't even know if this is going to work. And so I emailed the email. I was like, hi. My name's Ben. I'm based in L.A. I'm 18. I felt like I was submitting for an audition. I was like, I have met. I'm an actor. Here's my Instagram. I think I'm your brother. I get a DM the next day I was hanging out with my friends Lucy and Mia and I was like oh my god oh my god I just got a
Starting point is 00:08:58 DM from my sister and they're like what you're an only child I'm like I thought so too but no I'm not anymore so I was like yeah I have a sister um and I connected with her and she email she DMed me back on Instagram and I went to sleep being like cool I have a sister then I wake up and or it might have been later that day or something where I get a bunch of follow requests on Instagram and they're mutuals with my sister. I'm like, oh, my sister told her friends about me. Cool, like new friends. And I'm pictures of them, and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:09:32 they kind of look like me a little bit. And I was like, wait, what if these people are my siblings and my sister told them about me? And that turned out to be the case. And a new sister, Sister 17, reached out to me. And she was like, so nice to me. we should, I should add you to our group chat of all of us. And she was like, before I add you, do you know how many there are of us?
Starting point is 00:09:57 I was like, oh, I don't know, but like, you know, like max 10, right? And she was like, oh, maybe, but there's 40 of us. I was in a restaurant when I found that out. I was in a restaurant. I probably had just ordered like chicken tenders or something. And then I found out of 40 siblings. That's just crazy. I mean, that's how do you process that, especially the younger age,
Starting point is 00:10:22 It's like, holy fuck. Oh, yeah, I'm also the youngest of all of them. Oh, really? Yeah, I'm the youngest of all of them. And she told me that. She was like, I think she said something like, well, if you don't have any siblings, you make 41. Like, I'm 41. Oh, my God, Oliver, I was so excited.
Starting point is 00:10:46 I wasn't overwhelmed at all. I was so excited. And then I was added to the group. chat and we talked on there for hours um and one of um my siblings had actually a couple years ago tracked down our donor oh really yeah what's his name and you know pictures of him and his email and they told me like yeah like um some of us have emailed him he's emailed back um and so i didn't email him right away. I emailed him a couple months later.
Starting point is 00:11:26 He emailed back and once in a while. We'll just email. I haven't met him yet. I'd love to. How old is he? I'm not sure. I try and keep, you know, like identifying information about him and my siblings kind of private because they're a lot more private about all this than me.
Starting point is 00:11:43 But I actually don't know. Wow. And then how did your mom deal with all of it? Obviously, she seemed very, she's like a very supportive woman, it feels like. She was, she's so supportive of all of this. A lot of the last, like, how does your mom feel about this? My mom denies this, but I would bet my life on this. When I called her and told her, hey, mom, I have 40 siblings.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I bet my life that the first thing she said was, oh, B, I don't have enough fried chicken for that. She was like, B, I did not say that. I promise you, she said that. I'm going to get a text. after she listens to this and be like, B, I did not say that song. But then she agrees to this. She said that, well, we'll just add more chairs to Thanksgiving. She loves all of this.
Starting point is 00:12:33 She does. Yeah, all of it. Yeah. Wow. And do you have, like, ethical feelings about these sort of situations, you know, where one sperm donor, can sort of produce 40 plus children because this is not it's almost because you're hearing this story more and more and more you know what I mean where everyone's discovering that they have like
Starting point is 00:13:02 9,000 siblings because of one sperm donor and I guess it does raise ethical questions I mean 1,000% how do you feel about that you know no it's fun and exciting but yeah it's totally fun and exciting two things can be true at the same time it's amazing that I am the youngest sibling of 40 people. And obviously, I'm not an expert. I'm just a person with an opinion. But I think that donor anonymity, which is like what my donor did,
Starting point is 00:13:35 like he donated anonymously, and it was the consensus that none of us would ever know who he was, I think that's going to become antiquated in the next couple years. Just because of 23 and me and ancestors, You really can't keep it a secret anymore. It's a huge problem.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Like, back in the day, the sperm banks and egg banks, I guess, they're called, at least the sperm banks, would tell parents who were using sperm, don't tell your kids their donor conceived. That was something they advised. Really? Yeah. Yeah, because they didn't really know how it was going to go. There's a TikToker named Laura High, who I've actually talked to,
Starting point is 00:14:19 She is an expert on all of it. She's donor conceived as well. She's in the entertainment business as well. Everyone is listening to go check around on TikTok. But a lot of donor conceived people don't know their donor conceived. And that's really dangerous. I think that's the crux of the issues. That's really dangerous.
Starting point is 00:14:37 And that's why I'm so open about being donor conceived to like kind of break the taboo. Because it's still a really taboo thing. If you don't know your donor conceived, half of the information you put on hospital forms or doctor's office is false and that's really that's really dangerous yeah the other thing too is you know um you know when you are seeing a doctor or when you are you're a young dude but you know when you are getting into your older years you do want to know what you're potentially predisposed to you know so there's a medical component to all of this as well where it's like oh you have you know that that side of the family
Starting point is 00:15:19 at heart disease you know you're more prone to this more prone to that you know another thing is um my oldest sister sister one we grew up in l.a at the same time wow and we didn't know we were that is too close like oh another thing people talk about obviously the elephant room is like 40 people like what if you didn't know when you sleep with one of your siblings there's a so I don't know, last year, two years ago, we had on our show a similar situation where there was a donor and there was a sibling and the other sibling was there too.
Starting point is 00:16:00 So it was kind of like a two-for-deal. She told us a story. And I'm not going to get into the whole thing because it's kind of long-winded, but basically she was single and dating around and slept with her half-brother unknowingly. Yeah. Yeah. Thank God it wasn't a love connection because, you know, then there couldn't be kids involved in shit.
Starting point is 00:16:28 But that's just gnarly. And, you know, to your point, especially when you're, you know, a donor, a sperm bank is, is a brick and mortar building that is located in a city where a lot of people are probably going to be using that donor, correct? or is it all over the country? We're all over the country. But California Cryobank, California is where I'm from, is one of the biggest sperm banks ever. Anyone listening can tell by my voice that nothing would have happened between me and my sister anyway. That's so close.
Starting point is 00:17:08 That's crazy. Oh, and she, oh, my cousin, it's her birthday today. she she's on my mom's side my cousin she went to high school with my oldest sister and they were a year apart
Starting point is 00:17:23 they were a year apart and they were friends and they knew each other fucking crazy dude really close it's also a personal thing I really think a lot of parents ask me
Starting point is 00:17:35 when should I tell my child their donor conceived I think just being as open about as possible is the most ethical thing to do and will cause the least amount of problems. I usually say if they're old enough for the sex talk,
Starting point is 00:17:49 they're old enough for the donor-consic talk. If you're talking to it earlier, they're not going to know what that means. Yes, I couldn't agree more. I mean, what good does it do to keep that kind of a secret? I don't even understand. You know, I mean,
Starting point is 00:18:03 why would one be advised to not say anything? That's just lying at the end of the day. Yeah, when I talk about this, I want to make one thing clear. I really sympathize with parents that do keep it a secret from their kid. Because this is a very contemporary thing, having kids by use of donor conception. So I think it comes from a fear that your child is going to grow up and love the biological parent more or, you know, say, I have trouble talking about this because I didn't go away. I'm in a very privileged position, but say there's a man who wants to conceive, but he's infertile.
Starting point is 00:18:52 That's like a very, very vulnerable and personal thing. You might want to keep that a secret from anyone, even your child. Do you want kids? I've thought about this, Oliver. I don't know if I'm children because say I have 40 siblings. Say we all have two kids and say they have two kids. That's like, what, 160 grandkids? I don't know if I could do this.
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Starting point is 00:23:10 Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a tape-recorded statement. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike. This is in regards to the death of a Colleen slimmer. She started going off on me, and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her, and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee.
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Starting point is 00:24:14 On the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts Or wherever you get your podcasts I mean you're so young There's no need to make any fucking decisions right But I remember when I was a young man Man, you know, I was, you know, I wanted kids. It was just a part of me that was like, I want children, you know. And interestingly enough, I came from a divorce family, and it wasn't the best situation.
Starting point is 00:24:45 It wasn't awful, but it wasn't the best. So I could have easily gone the other way and said, well, I don't want to put my kids through that. You know what I mean? But I had this just desire to have children, you know. And that can obviously change for you. I yeah I'm 19 I'm not I'm thinking about getting you know right I got my paper I turned right I don't know I don't think about kids I don't I don't know it's like I don't know if I ever want to get married and then if I don't get married I don't have a I don't know but I think
Starting point is 00:25:20 I might adopt basically the question isn't the pressure of like oh are you going to have kids or not it's you know given your circumstance and you you know, how you were conceived and what you have witnessed through these, you know, finding of these siblings. Is this something that you would want, you know, for yourself to be a dad? I would love to be a dad. You would. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:50 That would be awesome. It's just how would that happen? I don't know. We don't need to think about that. You've got many, many years. Where are you at school? I go to Indiana University. Are you in the theater program there?
Starting point is 00:26:05 I'm a BFA musical theater major. And what's the dream? Anything. I just stage, screen, anything. I literally, if I am in the entertainment business, in anything, if I'm entertaining people, oh my God, that's what makes me sleep in night. I love it. Good.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Good, good, good. No, I know. Well, you seem to love it. know, I got a D plus in my acting class at Boulder, Colorado, but, you know, it's a funny story, actually. I never wanted to be an actor. I wanted to make movies direct, write, produce, which I do as well. But, you know, I went to Boulder and I had this teacher. And I took it to get an A, basically. You know what I mean? It's acting class. And my whole family, they were actors and blah, blah, blah, but I was not really wanting to be an actor.
Starting point is 00:27:01 I got a D-plus because I was with my best friend and I fucked around so much in the class. And years later, I had become an actor. I was like 24 years old. I got my first sort of starring role in a television show, like a WB show. And I was doing press. I did like Vanity Fair and I did people in magazine. I did all this press for it. And I cut out the clippings and I sent it to him.
Starting point is 00:27:28 with a note saying thanks for the D plus. Oh, my gosh. What did he say? What did he say that? He was great. I mean, he literally was sent to, you know, this is a long time ago, but it was, he was, congratulations. You know, I was being cheeky.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I was being funny. Yeah, yeah. I wasn't trying to be too much of a dick, but it was still sort of like a bar, a jab, because he gave me a D plus in acting. Yeah. It's also tricky wanting to go into this business as a publicly donor conceived person Because I always ask people name one celebrity that's donor conceived most people and yeah, you know, they're a couple there are a couple of some we might not even know Yeah, yeah, it's like it's still super taboos. So I don't know for it's it's also interesting
Starting point is 00:28:23 the more I guess in the public I become the more important it is to at least for me to keep myself privacy and keep my donor's privacy so yeah it's very interesting but I just want to go into this
Starting point is 00:28:41 being super open about the fact that I was donor of course when think about too you know as you get old or how do you know how the oldest is by any chance yes the sister one is nine years old about it's like this small margin
Starting point is 00:28:57 holy shit like a freaking small. Wow. It's a small of like 40 kids in nine years. Wow. Isn't it nutty though that out of the 40 you're going to get all kinds of different
Starting point is 00:29:13 walks of life you know and you know similarly as I told you before I interviewed a woman who it was in your similar situation but she was older and so these her siblings had already sort of progressed into adulthood and and of course she's not going to reveal who they are but she goes oh we we have billionaires we have people who uh she goes me she that you would probably know in the entertainment industry you know all walks of life and that's so trippy to think that you know in 20 years or so
Starting point is 00:29:52 25 years as everyone matures and gets older and finds their path you're just going to have all kinds of different people i know it's cool it's fun finding the similarities between all of us though because it's like well what's genetic and what's not have you have you experienced that yeah when i whenever i meet a new sibling digitally or um in person it's it's like making a new friend but without the weird do they like me are we clicking part it's like the third stage
Starting point is 00:30:28 what do we all have in common not one of us knows how to play a musical instrument really really and then people are like Ben you're a singer that's an instrument I'm like bitches no that's not what I'm talking about I'm talking like you're a whole right
Starting point is 00:30:43 right what else do we have in common like we all love animals that's like we all have a very similar shooter, I think. What about physical? Like, have you, do you guys look alike? It's weird, too, because, you know, I've got three kids and it's like, oh, my God,
Starting point is 00:31:04 like, you know, you look like your mother and this one might look more like me, and you know, you can see that. So, do you know if you look like your dad? I definitely really look like my mom. Yeah, I definitely look like my mom. I think I, I've seen pictures of him when. He was my age, and I can connect more to that. I don't look at pictures of him now.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I'm like, oh, God, it's like a strange. Right. That's not like, I might be found out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's interesting, I forgot to say this. Before I looked for my siblings, when I was doing my character work and I was like, hey, mom, I need to find out, you know, what is like to have my brother. I realized that, like, my mom, when she bought me, bought, like, an add-on for, like, $20.
Starting point is 00:31:52 of an audio of my father talking, like being interviewed like this. Right. It was like a side of fries. And she was like, oh, yeah, I get it. It's like a 20-minute audio of him talking about his favorite color, you know, his philanthropy and just everything. And I listened to that before I found anything.
Starting point is 00:32:13 I was just like, wait, do you still have that just out of curiosity? And I listened to that about a year ago when I was 18. listening to that Oliver was crazy yeah maybe we look a little similar but we have a really similar personality and it was shut within the first two minutes of that audio I was like oh my god
Starting point is 00:32:35 first of all we we sound the same we have the same speaking voice and I mean pretty similar and we have the same laugh And that was crazy because I had never heard him talk the first 18 years of my life or lap. So the fact that that's genetic is crazy. And just the way he, not even how he sounds, but the way he talks and the way his humor, it was so me. And that was so crazy.
Starting point is 00:33:12 I feel like that's circling back. That's what a lot of parents of donor can see people like fear. Like, well, what if they just turn out just like their biological father? It's like, okay, so what? Like, I know who picked me up from school. I know who Christmas presents. I know who was there when I said my first word, when I, you know, walked for the first time. So, yeah, do I have similar case?
Starting point is 00:33:42 Cadences to my father, sure, but I love my mom. She's my favorite person, ever. And she was single when she bought you, I guess. It's so strange to say. Yeah, when she said that, I was like, what's funny? Yeah, and she's still single, so it's literally just been me and her the whole time. So my family went from one person to 41 people. So she's never been in a relationship since you guys have, since you've been around on the earth?
Starting point is 00:34:16 It's always been you and her. She's never been married. Wow. Yeah, so it's literally just been me and her. So what was that like, you know, sort of when you're young, when you're a baby, when you're an infant, you know no better? And you only start to sort of understand how other people might live as you get older and you're witnessing it. Did you have that moment of like, wait a minute, something? things different here? I remember. I know exactly where I was in my neighborhood in L.A.
Starting point is 00:34:46 I was being driven home from preschool. I know exactly where I was when I was like, hey, mom, how come all my other classmates have some big man picking him up? And I don't have one. And I remember what she said. It just stuck with me. She was like, well, be every family looks different. Some people, some, some kids have two dads. Some kids have one mom. Some kids have a mom and a dad. Some, some kids have two sets of parents. Some kids are raised by their grandma. Just every family looks different. Curtin. I was like, okay. And that stuck with me like for years. And I just remember like, you know, it's LA. I'd see gay parents and then a kid walking down the street. And I wouldn't think anything of it at all. It was,
Starting point is 00:35:37 completely normal to me. I remember when it was like fourth grade and kids would be like, I would be like, I don't have a dad. And kids would be like, that's not possible. Everyone has a dad. And I remember thinking I was so smart
Starting point is 00:35:54 because I was like, these idiots, I don't have a dad. I'm smarter than them. You don't have to have a dad. And then it was like middle school. I was like, wait, I think everyone has a dad. I remember like sex ed classes in sixth grade and I was like wait a minute I know there's something up with a sperm bank I think is what it's called I was learning about
Starting point is 00:36:19 sex I was like I think it was like once a year I checked with my mom was like wait I'm not adopted right I felt like a normal kid always I think now as an adult hearing how much my story resonates with people is what makes me like like, wait, am I different? Because of treating me, not in a bad way, but like, this dynamic is special, I guess. No, yeah, well, no, it's true. I mean, you, you know, with a platform like you have and with it sort of blowing up the way that it did, you are sort of giving people comfort with your story.
Starting point is 00:37:03 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know, I've been through gnarly anxiety through my life and, you know, I'm on Lexa Pro and, you know, it's just a, you just battle with it. And it's not debilitating necessarily. And you know cerebrally that there are other people dealing with the same shit, if not worse, that you were dealing with, similar to maybe what, you know, the people that you're speaking to. But when you connect with someone who is actually. feeling the anxiety who is going through the same thing that you're going through and you're actually connecting with that person and talking to them and hearing their story there you do you do feel
Starting point is 00:37:48 you know some weight that can be lifted off you know you're not alone even though you know you're not alone it has to be tangible and I think that's what your story has done for a lot of people you know yeah i also think i didn't think about this when i was posting it i was just first of all all of this happened i was doing a summer stock contract this summer i was in a state i've never lived in in my life and i literally just posted the video and then went to rehearsal and i was like bias my phone like heating up i think that i didn't think about when i posted it a lot of people resonate with what i had to say one because it's crazy but two a lot of people comment I love how happy you are about this.
Starting point is 00:38:32 I love, they love how excited I am about all this, how happy I am. And it's just, I think it's a breath of fresh air because a lot of people say, like, all news is bad news, like, everyone just wants gossip and, you know, tragedies sell better. But to me, this is a happy story beginning, middle, and I have a great mom. I had a great first 18 years of my life. And when I found these 40 people and they're amazing too. and I found him when I literally thought
Starting point is 00:39:03 I never would ever and it's just a happy story I think people resonate with that and so I think if you're if you're someone who is like a minor and you know you're done to conceive and you can't go reaching out
Starting point is 00:39:18 for people yet to people yet if they see my video they could be like oh like this there might be a happy ending just like this you might not have 40 sims right But it can be great. What's a lesson to is bigger, life lesson.
Starting point is 00:39:33 You just have to embrace where you are. Embrace who you are. Embrace your story. Everyone's story is different. And everyone's story is forever shifting and changing. You know, I mean, you think about sort of your life up until the point that you realize, holy fuck, I've got 41 siblings, you know. So we can't change what is.
Starting point is 00:39:58 exists what is actually happening. So why not embrace it, you know, good and bad? That's the lesson. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in and how to make it feel like home.
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Starting point is 00:40:55 everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized. I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith, but there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in. To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or
Starting point is 00:41:41 text each other sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to the moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura Podcast Network on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHard Podcasts present, IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care.
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Starting point is 00:43:03 My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?
Starting point is 00:43:48 A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a tape recorder statement. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike. This is in regards to the death of a Colleen slimmer.
Starting point is 00:44:14 She started going off on me, and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. The state has asked for an execution date for Krista. We let people languish in prison for decades, raising questions about who we consider fundamentally unrestorable. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? we are starting the recording now please state your first and last name
Starting point is 00:44:54 Krista Pike Listen to Unrestorable Season 2 Proof of Life On the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts Or wherever you get your podcasts I have a question Yeah A lot of people ask me
Starting point is 00:45:17 and it doesn't make any sense to me but they're like, do you view your siblings as, you know, the same as siblings you grew up with? And I'm like, well, no, because I didn't grow up with them. They're like, not what I mean. Like, do you view them the way other people view their siblings? And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Like, I don't know what that's like. So, like, you growing up with Kate, like, how do you view her now as an adult, now that you're both adults? I mean, you've been adults for a long time. But at this point in life, you're both adults. How has growing up with her changed your relationship? Because for me, literally like you and Kate, except we didn't grow up together.
Starting point is 00:46:02 I guess the difference is that we were born two and a half years apart and spent our entire childhood growing up together. So you're going to sort of go through all of the ups and downs of what it is to be a sibling. And again, circumstances are going to dictate that your relationship as well, you know, we were in a, my parents were in a divorce and I was sort of fending for myself in a way, meaning like with my own emotions, I didn't have the capacity to be a good big brother to her when she just needed love from me. But I was, I was inequipped. I couldn't do it, you know, because I was sort of just pretty. trying to protect myself in that moment um and then i didn't like her and she was always fabulous and performing and look at me shit and da da da da which of course is what made her a star you know and uh i was like jesus k just like relax but we have now become sort of best of friends you know it's been years since we have been um but you know she became famous she
Starting point is 00:47:16 She married Chris. They were off doing their thing. We had lived sort of separate lives. You know, we were still connected. But it wasn't that tight, tight, tight, tight sibling bond, you know? Yeah. And then years ago, it just sort of happened where we matured into our relationship. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:47:37 And then we became best friends. But the other, the beauty of it, too, is you can go weeks without talking and it's okay. You know, we, it's that. connected that yeah i love you good you good we're good all right cool you know and then two weeks later we have a really beautiful conversation you know there's that comfortability um so to answer your question i mean it would be fun for you i to find someone that you really connect with and bring that person into your life you know what i mean and have a true sibling relationship if you so desire it of course because it's there that blood is there and the connection is there and then it's just
Starting point is 00:48:20 about sort of nurturing it and wanting to have a human contact connection with one or two of your 41 there's i have a similar story i mean i got a i got a i've told the story on my podcast before but i get a note under my door i come home it's like um it says his name uh please call me i have some information about your father. I'm like, what the fuck? Okay. Long, long story short, this dude turns out to be my half brother. Because my dad, you know, he was given up for adoption at a very young age.
Starting point is 00:49:00 And he contacted me. And I, you know, five, ten, six years ago, I was like, oh, shit. I have a half brother that I didn't know about. He looks like, this was like six years ago this happened. he looks like me looks like my dad you know um and then i met his son you know who's like my nephew or yeah and so it's just it's it's crazy and it's cool as shit you know so i have yeah so that story with your half brother is me times 40 and that's my situation if you try and put yourself in my shoes that's crazy it's crazy but yeah i mean it would be fun
Starting point is 00:49:43 to like connect with someone. Or you're in Indiana now. Where do you live, live? I live live in L.A. And I'm sure you have siblings who are in L.A. No, not really. Really? You know, I mean, do you connect with a few more than others
Starting point is 00:49:58 or have like that bond, you know? Oh, 100,000. Yeah. Oh, my God. I love all of them. Like, we're family. Like, I love all of them. They're, I have Sister 17.
Starting point is 00:50:10 We get on FaceTime. we'll talk about anything. I literally will just call her up. She'll answer. She'll call me. I'll answer. Oh, my God. Like, we just,
Starting point is 00:50:21 we match each other's week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's so fun, dude. I mean, you have 41 siblings. Like, someone, it's like, all you can eat, whatever. If you're going through something, you're a psychologist.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Okay, let me call you. Or you can do it. Yeah, yeah, I'm having trouble with you. Yeah. Exactly. Congratulations. This is, very cool. You are now part of a massive, massive family. I know. And good luck, dude.
Starting point is 00:50:51 If you ever see me on the sidewalk in L.A., say, hi. You too. And good luck. Good luck with your career. And, you know, I hope to see you on the stage, on the screen, someday. Someday. Not right now. No, no. You got to go to school, buddy. I got to go. All right. I'm Barbara Streis. All right. So nice to meet you. Thank you, too, brother. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians, artists, and activists to bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. The Moment is a space for the conversations we've been having us, father and daughter, for years. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos on the Art. iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. How does someone prove that they deserve to live?
Starting point is 00:52:02 We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Introducing IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. It grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally, like, in the right hand.
Starting point is 00:52:42 You're just not. Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story. Does anyone know what show they've come to see?
Starting point is 00:53:08 It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years, until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. America, y'all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.
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