Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Menopause for Men…with OBGYN Triplets

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

Expert advice from three MD’s and no co-pay fees! Oliver asks OBGYN triplets Joanna, Sarah, and Vicky Bedell what men should know about women’s health.  From their expert take on perimenopause to the best therapies being prescribed, the sisters will see you now! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling rivalry. No, no. Sibling rivalry. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling rivalry. It's good. Solver Hudson, reporting live from Wilder Hudson's room, once again, it is 12-10 and the kid

has come into his room. Unexpected. You're supposed to be at school. Why aren't you at school, number one? Free period. But that doesn't mean you can come home. No. So I'm still going to do this podcast from your room.

Buddy, I need to. I'm all set up. The people are in the waiting room right now. Just hang out. Wilder, I'm all settled in. Go into my room. My room is better than your room anyway. Just go into my room. Watch TV over there he is. He's leaving his own room because guess what? I paid for this house.

I paid for this house. Thank you. Thank you very much. Love you. All these clothes and computer. This is all mine because it's my money. Get out of here. No, it's Wilder Hudson, everybody. I mean, the kid's supposed to be home at 3.30. Not 12.10. He has a free period and he comes home.

Anyway, that was the intro. My intro is my son introing into his own room. But let's get to it because our ladies are in the waiting room right now. They're triplets and they're all OBGYNs. Pretty incredible, actually. I guess you could see one or then you. You could see the other. I mean, how do they work that out?

I mean, one can cover for the other. I mean, there's all kinds of things that they can go down. These are doctors, Joanna, Sarah, and Victoria Bedell. And let's bring them in to get into this. How are you guys? Great. How are you? I'm good.

I'm not even going to try to distinguish voices with three people in general who are not triplets. It's hard enough. So we're just going to say this is the Bedell's. Yes. But this is great. Thank you guys for coming on. This is so interesting. We were actually just talking about how we don't think that we're particularly interesting, but it's okay.

Well, I don't know you. I mean, maybe you're not interesting personally, which I doubt that. That's right. Yeah, she's the boring one. Are you the boring one? I don't think so. She's the least funny. Yeah, definitely.

Really? Who is the funniest? I don't know. Just my answer to that is always not Sarah. Who is the last born? Joanna. I'm sorry, I didn't label it correctly. Yeah, so I'm Joanna, Sarah, and Vicky.

Joanna, Sarah, Vicky. From my left to my right. Well, thank you guys for coming on. This is really a treat. I mean, the fact that you guys are all. You have your own practice together now, right? Was there ever, I know that you, was your mother and O.B.? Yes.

And so was our dad. Right. Yeah. Yeah. We actually, we practice with our mom as well. Still. Yes. Is she still the matriarch?

Yeah. Like, is she still, do we still listen to mom? Meaning like, all right, mom, come on. Like, let me do my thing. There's a mix of that, but she, we always end up listening to her, I think. Yes. You do. you don't you don't you you don't go against mom it takes a lot to go against mom yeah

I mean do you no not to her face you know it's always you know it's your it's your it's your mom I mean you know they always know better but then there's sometimes when you're like okay yeah okay mom you know thank you thanks for the advice but uh you know the kids are fine everything's going to be fine. Yeah. So you guys almost didn't have a choice. I mean, growing up in this world, in this field, I was reading that you saw your first live birth at what, eight years old, right? Do you remember that experience? Because it seems to be a flashbulb memory, one of those that will stick with you forever. Yeah. There were a lot of elements that were confusing. Right. Well, that's what I was about to ask at such a young age. You know, how was that? Because

obviously there's the miracle and the beauty of what life is and how it all goes down. And when you really get quiet and think about what is going on, it's completely insane. But as an eight-year-old, are you just like, oh, geez, what the fuck? Yeah, you're not thinking about that. Yeah, no, no. Yeah, not expecting blood, not expecting the size of a baby's head, not expecting scissors to be involved. Yeah.

Yeah. A lot of screaming. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And then our mom afterwards, like, wasn't that so cool? Yeah. But was it kind of a moment where she pulls you guys in? Like, all right, girls, it's time to see what I do.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, all right, stand over there. Okay, don't move. Don't touch anything. Just watch. Were you asking for this? I don't remember asking for it.

It was just kind of a perfect storm. where we must have been out with her while she was on call. She got called to the hospital. It was a patient that obviously she knew very well. Can my daughters come in? It was kind of urgent. And yeah, sure, stand to the side. Like, yeah, bring them in.

I don't think this would be allowed nowadays. Oh, no. Yeah, no way. Three completely unrelated children just stand in the back. Yeah. Totally. I mean, yeah, my mom brought me to like, sets, you know, like, comes to your mom work.

You know, this is different. It's like, hey, come see mom administer an apisiotomy and potentially, you know, take a cord around a neck. No, but you're right. The offer was, do you want to come to work with me with no, like, you want to close your eyes right here? Like, hey, maybe, maybe not. You're allowed to say no.

Yeah. But also certainly, we had gone to work with her before, but it was in the office where she's not doing that or we would, like, go. on rounds with her where she's not actually doing procedures. She's just saying hi to patients. And so it was probably like a, yeah, but it was not the same. No, no. I remember once going on postpartum rounds and she was taking staples out of a C-section

score. That was very unexpected. Yeah. Never seen staples in like a person and then being afraid that like, is someone going to staple me? I don't know. I guess. It's for some reason.

Yeah. Oh, gosh. Wow. So that was not when we decided to become a huge way of things. No, of course, that was not. But it was imprinted somewhere in your memory. You know what I mean? You know, it's funny because I was just,

I was this on another podcast. We were talking about nepotism, you know, and like the nepo baby and how that's been sort of this big thing in the last few years or whatever, the nepo baby. And it always seems to have been attributed or seems to be attributed to like the entertainment industry, you know what I mean? But I always say that's bullshit. I mean, nepotism exists across all jobs, all facets.

You know, if you're a steel worker and then you can help your daughter or your son get into that, bang, it's going to happen. You know what I mean? We love, a lot of the times we love what our parents did. And if we can get a leg up, you get a leg up, you know. So how much was that in place? play with you guys, not necessarily nepotism because you have to go through medical school, you got to work your way through. But at what point were you all three? And it's interesting being triplets, because when you're dealing with different age gaps, you know, just different

influences, different times of life. But it's collectively, it's like, hey guys, let's all do this. You know, like, how did that go down? It's so funny that you say that just with nepotism in general because even obviously that's a topic now that probably comes a lot for you just being in the entertainment industry but you're absolutely right it's really relevant um in the medical field there's several uh doctors whose parents were doctors and doctors in the family it's so funny um spite being from a medical family i have not thought about it applying to me but that's definitely true oh yeah oh yeah not um from this standpoint. But, you know, I think, obviously, we're smart. So, like, growing up, and I feel like

it happened very passively at first, because both of our parents as OBGYNs, you hear them kind of talking the doctor language. They clear, like, people respect them. The friends they invite over for Thanksgiving, you know, another doctor, and you just kind of hear that language a lot. And sure, I think maybe just subconsciously, passively, it never scared us. Like, you know, another doctor. And you just kind of oh gross mom don't talk about that like that's gross no fine here and there she would be a little gross but um for the most part no it's like okay you find some of that interesting and sort of just gravitate to it uh i think i agree that it's unusual that we all happen to pick the same specialty um in the medical field um i didn't think that that's what i wanted to choose per se oh you

didn't but i did eventually right and going in it wasn't like i'm going in to be an obie Right. No, I didn't think so. If anything, yeah, these deliveries, the scissors, all of that was like, yeah, I don't know how much I really like blood. So thinking, like, or at least to be open to something else. Yeah, to be open to something else. And man, turns out men make really terrible patients. That's my bias. Yeah. And I'm just going to say, ended up gravitating kind of after medical school. Was that kind of the same with all of you guys, sort of going into medical school? sort of thinking, I don't know, we'll see. Yeah, I think generally, yes. And then, you know, you go through all of the different options, or you're forced to. You have to see if you like surgery, psychiatry, pediatrics, everything. And I think going through OBGYN, it was just something that's familiar.

Yeah. And I feel like I generally know what's going on here. I'm not starting from zero. And with us, I guess, you know, we all had that same. experience. So there was some type of a comfort there perhaps. Yeah. BGYN is also a very unique specialty in that most patients are well. They're not sick and when they're hospitalized. Yeah, they're not sick either. They're not sick. They're there for actually a really special thing that you have an opportunity to be a part of. And these are patients that you don't just see for

one issue and then do their delivery and not again. You follow them throughout their whole life. And that's a really special thing. And now we're taking care of patients that our mom delivered. And now we're delivering their babies. Crazy. Patients that our dad used to take care of our patients. And so there's not a lot of fields that are like that. Yeah.

That's a great point. Yeah. There's a generational thing as well. Yeah. You know. And you guys are young. So you're going to be like, I delivered your great, great grandmother. Yeah. So I'm very curious. When we first got invited to this podcast, the first question I wrote down that I have to ask is, how does like, I would have asked Kate, how does Kate pick a gynecologist? Is it just your mom's gynecologist? I told her not to ask. I know. You can ask me anything. Like we're a very open, very open book. Very open book. That's a good question.

it wasn't my mom's i know that i have no idea how she actually chose hers i know i know who he is you know um you know with with my wife he was just my when my wife dr mandel he just moved she just moved to l.a from miami and yeah and and and then i guess you know before i knew her i guess she had by the way his name is howie mandel which is amazing no it's not you're being serious. So we have a random story about that. We saw Howie Mandel with the mom in Vegas. And at one point, he was like, you know, asking the audience questions, are there any doctors in the house? And we forced our mom to raise her hand. What kind of doctor are you, a gynecologist? And he just bragged on her for a couple minutes. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. Amazing. That's really funny.

Yeah. So, you know, Howie's the greatest. He delivered all my babies, you know, but his name is Howie Mandel. incredible. Yeah. That's how you chose your gun in college. Of course. If you don't have a comedian's name, then you're out. Yeah. You're out.

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what it is to understand sort of the symptoms and the repercussions of it as well because as men there has to be some sort of compassion for it you know we all need love we all need physical intimacy we need a lot as humans and some need more than others and men you know want to feel loved and seen and appreciated just like women do as well and sometimes you know there's a medical situation that's happening where it can curtail that or at least dampen it. And I think we've got we got to understand sort of what it is. You know, there's that hormone replacement therapies, you know, it's finding the right balances. You know, we've been struggling with that just a little bit, like from estrogen to progesterone, like what is the right balance here? You know, all of a sudden

the period goes away, you know, it's gone for months and then bang, it's on, it's kind of there for 17 more years you know and as a dude I'm like babe like you know I'm like kind of horny like what's up she's like yeah I'm like okay I'm like see month three but again these are all things that I think men need to honestly have compassion for and understand and yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you know um so yeah all that being said she's sort of we've got howie but she's also found someone else for, you know, the HRT stuff. What's your guys take on all that, by the way? I mean, because it is, because you hear some stuff about, I don't know whether it's just all

bullshit, but how it's like, oh, it's not good and it's not good for you. Yeah. So it's definitely not bullshit, and it definitely is good for you. Okay. But I agree with what you said in that obviously every patient is different. Finding the right balance is important, and especially in pari menopause. cause, things are changing and things can change. And so, in terms of dose adjustments and things like that, yeah, you have to stay on top of it.

And I like that she's seeing a separate specialist for it, whether that means Dr. Mandel either didn't want to do it or whatever, but having it as a specific focus and that she found somebody that's focusing on it is really important. And, yeah, putting the hormone game. back in the, like, in the headlines in the last couple of years, I think has been a huge plus for social media. What do you think that's attributed to? Like, how did that happen? You know, how to all of a sudden, it is in the headlines. It is on social media.

It's even in my algorithm, you know? It's like, it's like fishing and football and then menopause. I'm like, wait a minute. What the? Yeah. Well, I mean, so there was a big New York Times article that came out in the last couple of of years by a journalist who's going through perimenopause herself. And so I think now we're in an era where we have the platform for women to make, or just anybody, to make an issue sort of the

forefront of social media or their accounts and their posts. And it really is a bigger issue than everybody was recognizing in terms of, you know, obviously at any or at, at some point, will go through this and a hundred percent of them yeah yeah and the symptoms last a really long time and they are not fun and now we just have a better outlet to kind of get that off our chest and for people to hear it and so but a lot of this i think was sparked um by an article um by a perimenopausal journalist uh in the last couple of years because you're not it's it's not necessarily a raising raising awareness for some sort of a disease, you know, that you're going to raise funding for. It's interesting.

It's raising awareness for something that is natural, naturally occurring, but it's more about, you know, getting it out there so people understand what it is. And I guess, as I said a few times before, can have more compassion for it and around it. I mean, do you think it's benefited women just as, or more men? men i mean women know that it's going to happen right i mean and then they understand these are the symptoms they know that they need to sort of maybe get treatment for it or however that's going to work it's not something that is new you know so it's it's interesting because there is it is it is in the headline so what is it actually doing who is it for it almost it's like for the dudes who are

like yeah shit okay get it now that's so funny that you say that like you're just the second dude i've spoken to today so i don't know like i don't like in a day i don't hear that perspective like ever so i'm not sure but yeah it's very interesting it's a natural thing there's really nothing different necessarily about the treatments for it either you know it's not like oh wow there's this brand new shiny product out there nope these are things that have been around for several decades and um and they work and we've had that knowledge for a long time so yeah i think it's really just, um, I, I feel like Hallie Berry, I don't know, has a lot to do it. Like, she has bigger name people kind of finally saying something big on it. And Drew, Drew had

Hallie on talking about it. Truly like famous faces like, you know, wearing less makeup and just like, yeah, this is me. This is my age and I'm owning it. Like, you know, people not dying their hair so much. I think that that has also helped move it forward to like, all right, this is just normal stuff. It's really that normal though to like have a hot flash every five minutes. Like, is that happened to you? Maybe it's just sparked conversation and created these, like, many links all along the way to have it be more popular on social media. I think, too, there's just a camaraderie in knowing that you're not alone, even though you know you're not alone. You know, I like having, I wouldn't say suffer, but I have suffered.

You know, I'm anxiety. Like, I'm on Lexa Pro. It's been a part of my life, you know. And of course, I know that millions of people suffer from anxiety that it's even far worse to what I, go through. But at the same time, just talking to someone or, you know, experiencing, you know, a conversation with someone who's in the same boat, there's comfort in it, strangely. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Even though you know you're not alone, but when it's out there, you're like, oh, fuck, yeah. Okay, that's me. I get it. You know, so there's something about that club as well. Yeah. You know. I think there are also a lot more because one or two.

generations ago, there were more just male physicians in general. And so now that's kind of aging out where there are more just perimenopausal and menopausal gynecologists who at least once they get to this stage, they're like, wait, what? Like, I don't want to deal with this for years. I don't have to deal with this for years. And there was also a lot of misinformation and misinterpretation about the safety of hormone replacement. And so now it's just kind of the perfect storm where I guess women just aren't standing for okay this is natural like let's not do anything about it wait what I want to enjoy the last third of my life and not be really bogged down by bothersome symptoms yeah so what explain perimenopause and then moving into menopause

like what is the difference so the definition of menopause is no periods for one year okay Um, over age 40, like, whatever. Um, obviously you won't know that until it has already been a year. Um, and so sort of the time leading up to that when you're getting irregular periods and menopausal symptoms is hairy menopause for some women. And that amount of time can be variable. Um, for some people that perimenopause can last 10 years of irregular periods. Wow.

Or flashes, symptoms, yeah. Because your hormones don't really just fall one day. They go on a roller coaster on the way down. They really try to go back to normal, but they can't. Yeah. And that sort of hormone chaos is perimenopause. But did the symptoms change? You know, once you have that year with no period and you are in official menopause,

did the symptoms go away? for some maybe yeah for some people yes for some people know everybody's experience is a little different some women will continue to have symptoms maybe not every symptom and maybe not to the same degree um but eventually they do get better um but uh not in a predictable way right oh really yeah not for everybody it's just different it can just like boom something goes away or below it's different for everyone yeah no crystal ball no 10 years yeah no i still have some yeah i still have some patients that are in their 60s late 60s that still have hot flashes yeah really manage it yes i know i call them the unlucky ducks yeah but yeah um but yeah no you can

still treat that yes yeah and and and And does it sometimes take a while to find the right balance? And I'm speaking for my wife. I mean, she's here. Yeah. She would love to talk to you. But like, you know, it's just been, it's like, oh, God, it's like the testosterone, the progesterone, too much estrogen, not enough estrogen.

And then, no, no, no. You know, it's like the bloating and the sensitive breasts. And it's like, it's almost like this fine balance, at least with her, it seems. Yeah. Yeah. Especially in perimenopause. Right. just because you're still having so many just natural hormone fluctuations that it can be hard to yeah

it can be hard um to catch up with medicine with that but yeah stick with it it's worth it no yeah yeah yeah no i know i know she's uh she's a trooper for sure but i want to get back to one thing you said earlier Joanna said earlier you got into the practice because men are horrible patience. Yes. I have to, I want you to expand on that a little bit because I, I think I agree with you, you know, but I'm wondering where that comes from. How are they horrible? How are they worse? I have a theory. And sometimes, and it's funny, I talk to my patients about this sometimes when they're like, oh, man, my husband, like he doesn't understand any of this. And I think it's because from a very young age, girls start getting their period. Like, sometimes when they start nine years old,

um, so at some point, at a very young age, girls are already paying attention to their bodies, like by force. You have to pay attention. Um, so we're just kind of naturally doing that from a young age. Like, what do boys have to pay attention to? They're like, yeah, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine. I don't need to go to the doctor. I'm fine. Nothing's going on. Yeah. Whereas, yeah, were they just ask another boy? and they're like, yeah, you're good. You're like, what is this thing on my knee? Like, I don't know. You're fine.

Right. Yeah. I definitely noticed, like, I'm going to say I look young. And I definitely did, like, in medical school. And I really felt treated that way. Like, whenever you're walking around with the team of doctors, you're the girl on the team, you look the youngest. You appear maybe to, I don't know, like the most ignorable. And, like, I don't know.

I could, it felt like men, some of the men, talk to me like that. Like, not looking at me or like, yeah, okay. I remember there was one time I walked into a room because they would send the medical students to do different things. And a guy in the bed went, ugh. Oh, my God. Do anything. Even, like, an audible.

Yeah, like, fuck. Like, you're here. So anyway. And just, you know, little things. like that and it was very easy to notice that women didn't do that. Straight up, they didn't do that or you could tell like you're trying to explain something to them and they're like, uh-huh, uh-huh. Thank you. You know what? You remind me of my daughter. Oh, gosh. Right. So you can just tell that it felt like they weren't taking me very seriously

and women just by comparison didn't do that. Yeah, yeah. But I wonder if there's something even overall where men are just wimpier, just generally, when it comes to medical stuff. Like, I don't want a needle, like, you know, and women are just tougher, just generally when it comes to this. Definitely. Definitely. I don't know. Well, let me ask a question, actually, because your patients are women, but you see men all the time because the fathers, right? So how has that sort of been? Do you get all kinds of different dads in there? You know, some we're really into it, some who are just nutty. I mean, yes, but a weird common theme is a lot of them wear Star Wars theme

shirts to the deliveries. Are you kidding me? Not kidding. What? Yeah. Why? Unclear. Yeah, I don't know if I've noticed that.

You didn't notice that. I'm just not paying attention. That is so funny. Mm-hmm. Yeah, there are all kinds of dads. I would actually say most of the dads that we've encountered have actually been pretty good. Some of them have more questions. Some of them have no questions.

Yeah, it's a whole range. Yeah. Yeah, but I don't know. That's not, I'm, hmm, I'm going to put another no in the mail column. I don't think that that's the fairest time to assess because they, you know, they're coming in a little happier. I think that they know, whatever. Our patients are very nice. but like, hmm, how am I supposed to behave in this situation?

I better be extra nice. I better be that. I don't know. It's kind of a biased time. Yeah. It's generally a happy, exciting time. And yeah, they're anxious, but usually a happy, anxious. Yeah.

Yeah. Until it goes wrong. Like, you know, I mean, there's all, again, it's beautiful 90% of the time, but you guys have to deal with a lot of heartbreaking stuff as well. You know, I mean, that's part of the job, right? Yeah. Things can definitely, you know, change in an instant from exciting to really scary, really scary and emergencies can happen. Yeah. Yeah, it's just one of those fields. How do you deal with that? Do you have to sort of, do you have to separate yourself a little bit from the emotion of it? Yeah. I mean, certainly in the moment, we're all well trained to handle the emergency at hand. And you're really not thinking about the emotional part. like when you're in the, you know, kind of in the weeds with things. But afterwards, really that kind of stuff hits me when I get home or like on the drive away

from the hospital. But yeah, I mean, and it is nice in those situations to at least work with family where everybody is immediately understanding as to what happened. I mean, even medically, you like don't even have to go through what the emergency was, you know, because they're all totally understanding. what just happened and for the emotional support part. Or we were literally there. Or we were there.

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Like, you know, they're all great. I mean, they're all the, they're all very similar, you know? Like, you're nicer than you. Does anyone of you, like, who has, does one of you have better bedside manner than the other or, you know what I'm saying? Like, or is it just, they get all of you? If, if my wife is coming in and do your practice, like, we get all three? Yes. So, yeah.

Yeah, so we would rotate, kind of, you know, the first visit, you see Joanna, then Sarah, then Vicki, and we have our own individual call schedule, so whatever day happened to fall on for the delivery, then that's the doctor that you got. But we would make efforts, if it wasn't in the middle of the night, to have, like, two of us come show up at the delivery, or in rare cases, all three. if it just happened to work out that way then yeah or who was it there were patients that delivered the day you delivered yeah

yeah we were all there yeah Vicki and I delivered babies the day that Joanna had her baby just on the other side to answer the question that you're not asking they were not my OBGWI

that was literally going to be my next question I was I said you guys have kids Yes. Well, they do. I'm pregnant now. Oh, look at you. Congratulations. Thank you. Yeah. Wait, so you are not delivering your sister's kids. No, absolutely not. No. Okay, why? Why? Why? We established that boundary. No, even before any of us got pregnant, we talked about it.

And at first, we're like, oh, that would be so, so cool. But then, you know, the reality sets in of, well, if there truly was an emergency, like, God forbid, you had to rush and do a C-section on your sister and you're like, it's really scary. And if, God forbid, anything were to go wrong or happen, like, how do you live with that guilt of like, you know, so it was just, yeah, no, but we were present for all of the deliveries as the leg holders. Yeah, yeah. But it was also a really good thing. So Joanna, her daughter Jane, was the first baby that was born amongst the three of us. and we were all there and as soon as she was born instantly all of us were just in inconsolable tears like happy tears yeah and so we definitely had a moment after of like if I was delivering your

baby like I wouldn't have been able to do anything right yeah I think that's so smart though really you know yeah it worked out I guess it outweighs all the fun you could have like push bitch like what are you doing you got nothing you know so actually that is what happened when i when i had my person i was pushing i it took like an hour and i couldn't feel anything and they were both holding my legs and i was like am i doing okay and they were like yeah you're doing great and i'm pushing poorly yeah same yeah same happened yeah you can razz each other and it's okay yeah yeah yeah So I have a 12-year-old daughter. I have two boys and my little girl.

Since you've been practicing, have you seen any shift or change in young girl sort of getting their period? Has it gotten earlier? Are we talking about, you know, environmental stuff, foods? You know, have we seen this at all? So I actually, maybe not like since we've been practicing, but certainly since we were little. compared to this day and age, the actual age of the onset of periods has shifted towards a little bit younger. And what's considered a normal range of first period has shifted to a younger age.

I don't know if we can account for like one specific environmental thing to explain that. But, I mean, it's got to be something environmental. Yes, it's got to be something, right? Yeah. yeah yeah i don't know but i always i can't imagine getting a period at age nine whenever i hear patient yeah girls as young as eight and nine uh can get periods and i just always feel bad for my patients where that was their experience because that must have been yeah very scary day they're dying i'm sure oh yeah oh gosh no i know i mean we're a very open

family, you know, Rio, her name's Rio. She'd be like, I need to talk to mommy. I'm like, what about me? She goes, I got to talk to mom. I'm like, I'm like, did you get your period? She's like, dad, daddy, no. You know, but at the same time, like, I could be with her when that happens.

You know, I mean, that's a, it's a thing, you know, is that dads have to sort of potentially deal with that first time. Yeah. It's funny that you say that because even though our dad, dad was a gynecologist, any period question that I had for myself, mom, like, no, dad, no, I talked to mom. I would have asked them. I wouldn't want to ask my mom either. I was the last to get my period. So yeah, any period facing question, them first, then maybe mom and then never dad. Amazing. That is so funny. Well, you guys, this is, we've done, I don't know, hundreds of podcasts.

and this has been the most interesting one. I mean, I've never talked about periods and vaginas more in my life. And menopause and all of it. Yeah. Well, you know, I think you have to be. I think dudes have to, they have to be. It's just part of being. Thank you.

It's true. Yeah, not really feels that way, but yeah, I agree. It makes a difference. It does. It just makes life a little bit easier, too. You know, I mean, if you have a. knowledge if you have some knowledge if you understand what's going on biologically and then you may not take things so personally you know what I mean yeah sure that's what happens yeah but this has been

awesome you know where are you guys by the way where do you live Miami Miami? Miami you're in Miami okay yeah well cool I appreciate you thank you for taking the time well I have one question yeah you can ask me anything okay maybe we we've already crossed paths. So in 1995, our family with our dad, we were on vacation in Aspen. Okay.

Just got back yesterday. Yeah. We were, I don't remember where we were, but we were at a hotel with our dad. And I remember our dad coming back to the hotel room saying, guys,

I just saw Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn in the hotel. Right. Dad, oh man, that would have been. so cool. So if your parents or you were like, oh, are those triplets over there? They were talking about triplets at this hotel in Aspen in 1995, like around New Year's, if I didn't already say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. We would have been like eight years old. Yeah. That is funny.

So yeah. Yeah. Oh, gosh. What, do you remember what hotel? Was it the Jerome? No way. No. No, no. No, no. You would have to ask Bill. Yeah. That is funny. Amazing. Amazing. Well, I will run it by them. I will run it by them. This triplets sometimes are hard to forget, right? So it's like, oh, wow, right. It's true. All right.

I'm going to run it by mom because she'll remember more than Kurt for sure. And I'll get back to you. Okay. Thank you. All right, guys. Thank you so much. Yes. Thank you.

All right. Have the best day. You too. You too. Bye. Bye. Bye. Well, that was interesting.

think I'd be talking about menopause and periods. But hey, Oliver Hudson, I guess this guy, this guy all of Hudson, he does it all. We can talk, I just burped into the mic. He just talked, you know, he can talk, he can talk sports, he can talk anxiety, he can talk feelings, and he can talk, he can talk menopause. Jack of all trades Master of None But that was amazing That was fascinating

Very cool Glad to have had them on And now I'm leaving Because I have nothing more to say Oliver Hudson Out In the heat of battle Your squad relies on you

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