Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - OBSESSED with Kate’s ‘Song Sung Blue’ Co-Stars

Episode Date: December 15, 2025

 Ella Anderson and King Princess play Kate’s daughters in the film "Song Sung Blue," so it’s no surprise they feel - and sound - just like family. Here, they meet Uncle Ollie for the first time and take us all inside the journey to get this movie made. Find out how Ella almost sabotaged her way out of the audition, why KP says she knew she’d click with Kate right away, and what they say Hugh Jackman brought to set every single day!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling revelry. No, no. Sibling rivalry. Don't do that with your mouth.

Sibling rivalry. That's good. So last night I went, Tedeschi trucks are in town. They're banned. This dark trucks is an amazing. the great guitar players of all time. And Susan Tedeski is his wife, who's a great, like, blues singer, guitar player, and they have this great band, and it's very joyous, and it's this amazing, like, it's like a musical experience. They always have, like, 14 people on the stage. It's

so much fun. They're in town doing, like, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and turns out they were supposed to do it with this guy, Joe, Flaherty there, but he got sick, and so now they asked Chris to sing and so Chris is going to sing at the Hollywood at the um rock and roll hall of fame my ex-husband and then they asked me to come sing um a neil diamond song they played this like really fun small gig that they never do stuff like that at this place called the peppermint lounge in l.A and it was so much fun and we sang forever in blue jeans and then it was crazy because it was like you know i've known derrick truck since he was 20 years old

and I was 20 were the same age and we were babies in like this crazy weird rock and roll was this almost famous stuff so when I was Chris when I met Chris

Derek was a young like sort of prodigy guitar player and then he ended up in the almond brothers and so and then he had a band called Derek Trucks band and then he met his wife and they have a band but I had this whole thing and I seeing him was like

it was like bringing back, for both of us, I think, bringing back so many memories. And then I look on the stage and his like tech, his guitar tech used to work with the crows. And I was like, Frank. And it's just, there's something about the music world. It's really, really small, right? Small, yeah. Danny goes, Danny comes and Danny's back there. And it's like he runs into two old friends from his world and music.

And, you know, it was just one of those great nights. And it's something that music is that when you live or have experienced the road, whether you're a wife of someone, a girlfriend of someone, or you just live in that experience, there's just, there's literally nothing like it. There's literally, it's like one of the great, like, happy places. Yeah. You know, anyway.

Okay, so Ollie, real quick, before they come on, I'm very excited about this. We're interviewing my daughters from the movie song Sung Blue. I know. So Ella Anderson plays my daughter in this film. Yep. She is, I'm going to say this. We'll say this surgery.

She's absolutely wonderful and brilliant in this film and is going to have such an incredible career. K.P. King Princess is known as a musician. She is one of my favorite musicians out there. She's fucking amazing. awesome yeah she plays hugh's daughter uh and is also just fantastic so i'm so excited so let's can we bring in the ladies hi hi oh my favorite ladies guys meet my brother olive i don't think you've met ollie i didn't meet i didn't meet kp hey holly hi hi how are you i'm good how are you allie kp's on the road are you she's on a bus with like 13 people

right now. Well, actually, I'm in the Soho House currently, but I won't She got fancy. She decided to throw down and stay at the cell house. I hit my limit. I hit my limit. My wife and I were watching SNL and KP came on. This was a while ago and we were just, I was like, who

is this? I mean, it was incredible. I think you were wearing like a tutu. It was a kilt. It was a feminine kilt. Okay. Was it frilly? Maybe not. It was pants with a kill attached. Okay. I love it. remembers what you were wearing.

Yeah, I do, I do, because it was that good, she was that good, it was that good. I mean, because I hadn't heard of you and Aaron and I, my wife hadn't, and it would, boom, it was like, who the fuck is this? And then Aaron became obsessed. Yes, she did, my wife. Because when I was working with you, Aaron,

his wife was like, oh my God, I'm obsessed with him. We got to get Aaron to a show. A hundred percent. She's in the other room right now. Like, you got to tell her about SNL and how we like, flew about her. I'm like, babe, I'll get to it. But by the way, Ella, let's not leave you out, okay? Because

Henry Danger is, you don't understand how huge this has been in my family. I have 18, 15, and a 12 year old girl, two boys. So when my boys were younger, Henry Danger, my daughter just finished an entire marathon of watching every single episode of Henry Danger. What? Yeah. That is some commitment. No, I know. That's so cute. that's amazing i don't even know what you're talking about oh henry danger was the shit i know i was on

i was on this show for a million years and it was like it was Nickelodeon you know it was um it was wild it was a time it was the longest running live action it's crazy we saw that you guys like grow up like the marathon is that much more impressive because there's so many episodes No, unbelievable. And again, my wife is like, make sure you tell her that like we love Henry Danger. I'm like, okay, babe, I got it. I appreciate that.

So funny. Well, before we get into all of the fun stuff, like the movie and everything, let's just like break down a little bit. Like, you know, Ella, we'll start with you. Where were you born and raised? I mean, I know all the answers to this, but.

Yeah. course. I was born and raised in two different places. So I was born like 25 minutes outside of Detroit. I always put it that way. It depends on the traffic. It can be more with traffic. But no one knows where Ipsilani, Michigan is. It's really adorable, though, if you have the chance to go. You might not have much to do, but there are some sweet people. And then I moved to L.A. when with my whole family, we all relocated when I was like six. So my formative years were all around the city and moving a ton and yeah. Why did you just move to L.A.?

I mean, it was, it was all the stars were aligning. Like my dad ended up getting a job that the company was based in Anaheim at the time. And I started working when I was really young. I didn't realize how young that I was. which I think in part was because I had two older brothers and I kind of thought that I was them and in the same chapter of my life as they were. But I also just, yeah, once I found film,

I just knew that it was what I wanted to do. So I was able to work as well and then my brothers really liked the weather. they're super outdoorsy active so they like the fact that they could jump off of buildings and do parkour and there's three of you yeah three total and what are the age differences okay so i i have two older brothers but they're identical twins okay four years um and one of them is technically a minute older, but I think he acts the youngest in a good way. He's really, he inspires me to be a little more free. And I'm the baby. I'm the baby girl, only girl.

I remember your mom saying to me on set, Ella takes, she's like, I just want to just buy it. Just get it. Just get this. Because Ella takes forever to like, if she likes something, she like if it's a coat she's like oh i don't know she'll wait like a year to get a coat her mom's like just buy the coat i'm a wanderer i that's the worst was you know even on set you find yourself in conversations and then like three days later or a week later i'll think ah if i had been able to to think a little bit deeper on that or just let it ruminate then I would have maybe said something, not said something, but my perspective is a little bit different on that now.

So, yeah, across my life, I like to think, before I buy something, I need to make sure that I've known that I want it for like a year. I wish I had that problem. Please, tell me about it. Me too. It's torture, though, because it's always in the back of your mind and you're always like, if I had that thing that I've been knowing that I need for like four months, then I would be complete. But I just, I deprive myself. Well, so I have my, basically my West Coast daughter is really

which you're the West Coast daughter. And now, KP, you're my East Coast stepdaughter. So where were you born and raised? I was born in New York, in Manhattan. I was raised in Williamsburg, Brooklyn. Um, I spent 18 years in Williamsburg and then seven in L.A. from like, I guess, yeah, 17 to 24 or 5. I was in L.A. And yeah, but I'm back in New York. Were you in L.A. on your own? Did you move out to L.A.? I moved out. So I moved out. So I got a to USC when I graduated high school and I went and did a year at USC at 17 and then I signed my record deal and like my first lease and I moved at 17 I moved into my own apartment so I didn't even I wasn't even 18 and then I was just in L.A. from from then on as a young adult as a teenager really wow you were 17 living in Los Angeles like basically underage

I was underage I had to yeah they didn't look at I didn't have any credit so they didn't look at I'd like kind of a suss landlord it was cool though it was cool I lived in like a like one of those like Melrose place style yeah yeah yeah like courtyard yeah and it was kind of like if you could make a show about that apartment where where it was were you in hollywood it's west hollywood on north laurel and sunset okay i know exactly i know exactly from greenblats yeah exactly where that is yeah and it was it was pretty cool i mean it was nice because like you could kind of give your keys to anybody you know like and they would all everybody kind of took care of each other but they also there was so much fighting so there was always drama it was it was fun to it was fun to watch the drama

too. I feel like when I think about both of you also you grew up in music Michaela K.P. I call you Michaela. But you grew up in music.

Your dad is an engineer. And so what was like your kind of youth experience like in connection to music? Was it constant? So my dad's house in Williamsburg was like a factory building and the apartment shared a wall with the studio and it wasn't soundproof so it was just constant like if they were tracking drums or guitar it was

just it was just constant noise which I don't I don't even think I registered like I remember moving to L.A. and not being able to sleep because it was so quiet and yeah I mean I you just couldn't keep me out of the studio like I was just home from school backpack homework set up in the studio pretending to do homework really just listening to everybody recording you literally could not get me out of the studio so I mean I think it was just an obsession like from I think it was innate and what was your first instrument that you started playing my first instrument was drums because my dad's a drummer and I think you know being like an angry little lesbian. I wanted to smash.

I wanted to smash stuff. You still want to smash stuff. A hundred percent. And then I think I think I was probably like, fuck this because my dad did it. And then I moved to piano and guitar because I wanted to start comping for myself singing. Like I wanted to write and I wanted to sing songs. So I started with the more melodic instruments to basically play for myself. Ooh, December, man.

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What's so interesting about both of you guys, because Ella, people don't really know this, but you're a very good singer. Beautiful singer. Amazing singer. But you have a musician who started as a musician that's the world that you know who really wants to act and loves getting into that art form and then Ella you starting out and acting is music going to be the next thing that you kind of venture into?

That's such a good question. I feel like, yeah, I... My parents are musicians also, which wasn't even something that I thought about when we were filming, song sung blue, but I think there are certain things that, um, in a way I understood about growing up with parents who, um, have this like really artistic way of expressing themselves. And sometimes it's, you know, my parents aren't, aren't like accountants. They don't, they're creatives.

Yeah. Yeah, that was kind of the, that was the first thing that I ever knew. And, um, music was like the pillar for everything. And film was the thing that, brought us together for leisure, which I fell in love with, but they're really, yeah, they're different parts of myself. I don't know. I'm, I only do things when they feel organic. So, you know, I consider myself sort of a singer, but a songwriter. And that only happened because my brother's studio was in the room next to mine. And there was a time where he was producing something that I got ideas for. And I went in. in to his bedroom and sat on the floor on his carpet and started writing to it and then I

started laying down vocals. Like it's just, I do things when I feel drawn towards them. So in this very moment, I'm really focused on film and finding like the next thing I want to be a part of. And who knows when making more music will call back to me. It's part of why. Do you feel like, you know, I think Craig, so Craig is our writer. director like he's such an interesting because he I always say Craig has music in him you know like I feel like the reason why this movie turned out so great is because he really understands music he lives it he loves it he's like Memphis Tennessee obsessed with musicians like that's his world that he sort of exists in in Memphis more musical than film um but everyone in this movie

has a real like not only profound connection to music but like a longing to express themselves through through it you know and when he cast you like do you think that like he understood you guys as artists because he understood your musicality because that's how I see him I would say I don't know what's your experience I mean I'm curious what your thoughts are all I can I mean what was so great about this role for me is I had nothing to do with the music like that was so lovely like I was like thank God I am not the one singing I'm like give it to Kate I'm like let Kate belt it out girl let her have her moment honey I was like fuck that which was awesome but what was kind of healing for me about it was I

about growing, you know, it's about a family that is, that is kind of subservient to music, right? Like the kids are like, we're, you know, you don't choose where you're born into and our family was, you know, we're children of working class musicians, which I relate to. And I felt like going through the audition process with Craig and whoever else was in that room, it felt like those conversations were being had. like I was asked about my experience and I think they saw that I related to being the daughter of a musician who didn't really have a glamorous career you know like my dad doesn't have a glamorous career my dad's a recording engineer you know I describe it as like

you know you've got the people who design the outies and then you have the actual mechanics who build them and like that's the engineer is the person in the garage you know and And in a lot of ways, this family, Mike and Claire, are, they're the mechanics, you know. They're the ones who are like bringing joy to the layperson at the camera there, you know, not at the stadium, not with the screaming fans for the majority of the movie. And so I thought that that was really, it was just, it was just really nice to have that part of myself seen by Craig. and also just within the story itself, I guess, if that makes sense. What was the audition process like? Yeah, I did like two auditions, and I was just like, they were like,

wow, you're really good at playing the daughter of an alcoholic. And I was like, yeah. I was like, I got this one in the bag, guys. Ella, what was yours like? I feel like that's more interesting. You have way more scenes than me. I feel like you probably had a way more extensive. isn't that funny you would think but it was really like a whirlwinds I sent so here's the

best and I don't think I've I haven't told very many people this but I just got a regular audition I got a self tape man and I went in to um uh tape it and I literally was like there's no way I'm getting this this is a waste of my fucking time right away but where where did that come from meaning like it's just too big of a role there's no way i'm worthy i'm i'm a very ambitious person i love a challenge i don't think that it was the material itself i think it was just i was like i saw i saw on the email it said Craig was directing it and i saw you know kate and and he were a part of it those were the only names that were attached on my email um i saw who's casting it i deeply admire it it was just like it's such a long shot

And there are times where you send certain things into the abyss And I was like, there's just no way And so I was trying to tape it And I'm a perfectionist And I'm not exaggerating And I don't think I've really told this to anyone But I was like I'm deleting all of my takes

I deleted them off of the camera Wow I left, I went home And I woke up the next morning And I was like Oh I'm probably not going to get it but I just I have a really specific take on this person and I don't even care I want to go back

and so I did it again and I sent it in and I didn't hear anything for a few weeks and I was like well that didn't happen and then out of nowhere I was planning my first trip to Europe first trip alone first trip I'd ever planned and I got an email or text or something like that and it was like you have a Zoom to meet with Craig to as like a callback. I was like, oh my gosh, first off, I didn't expect that, but also I'm supposed to be on a flight. So that's not good. I might not be able to do it.

And fortunately, they were amazing and they worked around me. I had my suitcase in my car and I went on the Zoom right before I had to head to L-A-X. did the zoom then i go i go to um Italy and to Ireland I'm there I guess my team was trying to get in touch with me for days but I was like watching sheep in the like a castle

and I finally picked up the phone at 2 a.m. my time must have been something normal l.A. time and they were like dude once you get back home you need to go to new jersey for a screen test and i just turned out right in time it was wild. It was a really wild process but it felt really quick because

I just didn't even think it was feasible to be honest. So the screen test was still part of the audition or had you gotten the gig and then it was like we're just going to do a screen test? I think I was signing I think I was signing everything. I think I had it. You meant what you mean

when we were all in Jersey taking pick doing and doing our first things? Yeah. We had it by then. Yeah. You were cast. I think I was cast But if that was an audition I would I was like See that wasn't an audition

That was actually That was the camera test Oh yeah No it wasn't a screen test It was it was the camera test Yeah I have a fear of being fired At any point

Yeah Let me ask a question though Like when something like this happens And it's such an amazing moment Is there is there fear that kicks in Like holy shit I got it Now I have to fucking do it or are you, is it just pure elation?

Oh, yeah, no. Yeah. Or is it like, oh my God, I got this gig and like, of course I want it, but oh, shit. Like, oh, my God. This is my second time doing this. So, yeah, there's a little bit of fear still involved. I mean, I am truly underprepared. KP at one point, we're doing a scene in the car and like, she's like vaping in the car.

I'm like, KP, you can't, it was so like rocket. I was like, listen. I know this is still sort of a rock and roll kind of experience. I'm like, but I can't vape in the car. I get away with a lot. I think because I'm a musician, I think I get away with it. They really give me quite a lot of leeway. Oh, so funny.

I was like, oh, she's definitely her second movie. Yeah, I'm definitely, I don't know. I feel like I'm a little bit like every time this happens now, I'm just like, oh, fuck. No, I'm going to pull it off. I can't stand this. self-tapes. It's like makes me nuts. I kind of like the self-tapes. Well, it's great from a just an economic standpoint. You're in your house, whatever. I just go over it so many times and I look it back. I'm like, I fuck that. I can do better. I can do better. And it's 10 hours. And my wife is like,

dude, we have to, we have to move out of this room. I'm like, I know, but like, one more. But at least you don't have to, like, I have to pretend to be straight women. So like, I have to, I have to, I have to, I have to, I'm like, I'm like, I'm not kidding. I have to like, I'm not kidding. I have to, Like, I have a photo of you in one of the wigs? Absolutely. I feel like I have outfits. I'm like fucking borrowing, begging, borrowing. Oh, my God, amazing.

I got to get my tits out. Like, it's crazy. Like, I got to really like, oh, yeah. It's hard, Ella, you don't, you take for granted that you look like a woman. I have to go from this to like a hooker. Oh, stop it. No, it's, it's tough. Okay.

Like, it's, it's, that's kind of my biggest, the biggest learning curve for me. Right. Oh, because they can't really like the, a lot of times I feel like, Like, it's, like, a lot to ask them to use their imagination. So now I have to, like, I have to, like, I have to, it's also, by the way, I was like that, even whether it was taped or in person, like, you want to show up the part. Yeah, I've gotten better at that. Yeah, I mean, that's part of the, I always had to ride her.

I'm like, dude, like, you're, you're playing a 50s, like, crooner type. What are you doing with your hair like that? Like, put your hair, get your hair right. Like, put on the right. put on like a the right kind of shirt give them some vibe of what sometimes actors can go too far where they'll like bring in a T set

I don't have seen that kind of thing yeah I don't be for some auditions it's like why do you have a cane no no I yeah I've seen that shit too I did I auditioned years and years ago it was like a hockey movie and I played hockey for eight years or whatever but these these dudes are in there with little hockey bags over their shoulder and like a stick

And I'm like, what are you going to do in there with this hockey bag and the stick? I think they're just approving that they'll actually play hockey. I do feel like the auditioning process for me has turned into this thing that is so not. I think I like tapes because you can access a lot of people and you can see a lot of talent. And for people who don't have access, it's a great way to find new talent. The issue I have with it is that when you're in the room with a with a, director and you're or even a casting director and you're creating like a connection with them and a rapport with them and you talk to them and then they start working with you that's when

you create relationships like i don't think if i was a tape taping that i would have had the kind of success that i've had in getting parts like part of what what it was was actually talking to people and being someone that hopefully would be really fun to work with and i've only collaborative person once like that's how that's I feel like how rare it is like it's just totally changed I've always said now I won't do that I won't I won't cast unless it's like a small small small part but I won't cast a speaking a speaking part um not in person if I if I'm directing it's just I don't understand it yeah but look you got us you got us that's true it seems to work out It was the best.

What was your, like, feelings first day on set? I love to ask you this because I've never asked you this. Both of you. Like what? I was, I just got really, hmm. Like, what were your first impressions? My first impressions, you guys were better than I hoped, honestly. Like, you step into something.

And you just want to, I think, I want to make sure that I'm allowing things to feel collaborative. And of course, like a lot of this material was intense at times. And I just wanted to make sure that I was like being, that I was enhancing what Prague had already sculpted to a point. So Kate, you've said something about hopefully you're a good, fun. time to work with and you absolutely are you're like a party in this bitty body like it's like you're just uh you're a container for a party so i i was immediately i just felt so comforted and same thing with hugh kp's just the coolest fucking person alive maybe it's it like seeps off of her um i don't think she can control it so it just it just admits but she sweats cool

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We want you to live better. So check out the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. Well, Ella, you had a really interesting role because you, there's a part of you in this that had to carry a lot of weight. And, you know, you're not, there's, there's levity and there's places in the script where they're pretty levity, but you're sort of carrying so much in terms of being the, you know, child of my, my baby and, and all the things that I'm experiencing and going through. And then sort of the connection I have with Mike and meeting Mike and falling in love and you're sort of like the reason and the, you carry the fear of like not knowing.

what any of this is going to bring and you did such a great job of that but you did when you know we could be like laughing and doing things and yelling at the TV screen you always had to be carrying this sort of heaviness of like this isn't like I need you to focus on real life

you know mom and so that with that had to be like this age and this wisdom and your your your audition, which was amazing, really showed almost like sadness. Maybe that's not the right word. It's like a little bit of like sad magic that was kind of so compelling. And then you showed up and you really delivered, honey, is your really great performance.

it's a career-changing performance. This is going to be exciting for you, you know, and your career is going to be really interesting to watch. And I'm so excited for you because really, like, you brought so much. It was a, you were lifting a lot in this. Maybe sad magic should be the name of your first album. Oh, but I feel inspired.

I might have to do a voice note or something. I have some ideas. Thank you. That was really something that struck me about this role. And, yeah, I think that's what it is. There was just so much pain that, like, lived under the surface. And I imagine there were years of just struggle without, I think Mike who became Papa, like, did add a lot to their lives and to the family. And in a way, I think Rachel had to handle certain things.

nearly on her own for a while. So yeah, I'm glad that hopefully I was able to capture that a bit. But oh my gosh. Yeah, it's exciting. I was talking with Michaela with KP about this. I was like, you know, everybody delivers such a great, you know, performance and brings exactly what was needed, if not more, you know. And KPA is the same thing.

The kids really carry this sort of maturity, sort of like a more of an all-knowing understanding of their parents. And I think a lot of people are going to relate to what it's like to grow up with parents that you feel worried about. And, you know, and with that comes this sort of like watchful gate keep, gatekeeper kind of role that you both play in this movie so well and um there's a great scene with k p and and hugh in the tie diner that is so wonderful and honestly you guys do such great work i and um um but i want to ask more questions about what your first impressions

of me and hugh were oh my god kp now you You have to go. Well, okay. I got there and I was like, that's Wolverine, dude. Like, that's fucking Wolverine, dude. I was like, I had manifested, I think, being Hugh Jackman's daughter. I was always, I always related to Wolverine. I know this has nothing to do with this film.

I was just like, wow. God, even my agent was like, you fucking manifested this. And I was like, I did. So I got there and it's just like, you know, he's just, he's kind of just everything you'd think he'd be. He's this like delight. Like he's big and he's like this big presence, but he's gentle, just like Wolverine. And I just felt really, I don't know, immediately felt connected to him. Like I was just like, this is a really good man.

And he just asked a lot of questions. And I was kind of like in shot. I very rarely get, I'm very rarely in shock by somebody, but I was, I was, I was, I was starstruck a little bit when he walked in. You aren't starstruck by me? No, because I saw you and I was like, first of, no, I was because I was like, I saw you and I was like, that's my girl right now. I was like, I saw you and I saw, I saw, first of all, I was like, how, I need to get up in that trailer, okay? I need to be with that lady. That lady knows how to drink.

So I'm ready. Let's fucking go. A lot of late night. I saw you and I was like, sister, for sure. I felt like immediately, like, you and I were going to, we were going to party. And we did. And it was fabulous. Well, but Hugh, to me, yeah, he's like a grasshopper. He's like, it's hard to describe.

He's got this, like, this, like, he's a gentle giant and he's got this, like, fatherly thing. But it's also this, like, he's very young at heart. Yeah, he's like a young, spirit. It's like he hasn't been, this is like, it's, and he's, there's, yeah, there's something, he's a, he's a fascinating person because it's so pure. He's so pure. Yeah, he really like immediately opened his heart and like we were just like the set. I feel like within 10 minutes of talking, I'm like telling him about like my family trauma. And I'm like, okay. Yeah, there's certain kinds of people who just weirdly open up to. Yeah, which was really, I mean, I try to treat.

And this is the case for all of you, Ella, especially you, because you and I have some really important and beautiful scenes together. But, like, I just feel lucky that going into this new career, that every time I do this, I get a master class from the people I'm working with. You know what I mean? Like, I'm new to this. So I try to treat each job as school, you know, or class. And I've just been really lucky. that every time I step on to set, I feel like everyone's in a good way. Everyone's better than me, and I can be a student to everyone.

And that's how I felt. I was watching. I was an observer to all of you and to what you were doing and bringing. And I felt like parts of it seep into my memory think of how to be better at this job. You know, and so it's just really special. Awesome. I have a question about you. Yeah.

Did you have to mask his muscles? Because the biceps in the movie, they were, it was like, it was like, okay, well, it's almost like Craig was like,

too, you have to gain weight. He's like, now. Not going that. Because, you know, he was shredded still.

Yeah. And there was one thing where he kind of had his shirt off. And you're like, oh, Jesus. Eat these little boxes of like planned meals. Did you notice that, Kate?

Yeah, no, he's, he's, he, he's very disciplined. No, he's like my ideal body type for myself. His leg is spectacular. He has stunning legs. I mean, really? Oh, my God. His legs. And they're long.

That's why he's like a grasshopper to me. He's like, he's all legs. His legs are beautiful and he wears a boot cut jeans. A boot hood hood pink in the Atlantic Right, so it's like tied around the quad and sort of at the knee It releases just a little bit And he's got a gorgeous little tushy

It's like everything's just perfect You know Every scene that we're like hugging him I don't know if you notice this Ella It's like you know there's a bunch of scenes Where we're just like getting hug But my hands are just on his tits I think I saw that mid hug

I couldn't stop Am I interrupting? I couldn't say they were being drawn like a magnet. I don't know what happened. Oh my God. Oh, it was so funny. Yeah, it's funny. When you gain weight for a role, I get it.

You know, because Mike didn't really need it. For me, I had to get soft, you know, because it was really, like, important that Claire, she's definitely not. Like, I'm so athletic. in my normal life, like, I was like, I have to let her go. Like, I'll let her go. I was into it, by the way.

I thought it was a great look for you. Well, look, you know, it just was. And I, it's not like, I'm like Hugh where I'd see Hugh and he'd be like, you know, you know, jump roping and doing his things, you know, between takes and stuff. And I was just like, oh, God, I miss, I miss, like, taking care of me. myself. You were like eating like an apple turn. Insanely like you, it still was shining through. I remember there was one time it was like you were shooting pretty late and you started stretching and I was like, holy fuck. Like she's

so flexible. Impressive. Oh, well it was it was that was we had such a great time and and we filmed in our house in this like in Jersey we had this like, little crazy house and it was freezing and then it was too hot and freezing this was like there was no frills really on this set except my except our trailer which we were never at um that was it was a nice trailer Kate had a really nice one it was a nice trailer but it but we were hardly there unless we were like you know no I just did an episode of her TV show and I know all the guys there Kate's trailer like takes up half the stage on the outside and then in the Justin and everyone else is this like, like three-banger.

What are you guys doing in here? They're like, Kate took everything. He deserves it. She's a Difa. She's a royalty. Hold on. That's not fair. That movie or that show, our show is they come and go.

Like Justin's like, he's like, I came in. I did a little scene. And then I don't have to come back for like seven hours. I'm going to go like to Allo and like cold plunge. I'm like, fuck off. I'm here all day like 15 hours a day But you know what's fun is my trailer is the hang spot So like every we end up hanging out together

Which I think is like you know I'm like Francis McDormand said to me on the set of almost famous She goes nobody should have trailers and I actually feel that way About trailers I think there's That way really I don't know I live on a bus So for me trailer feels like really connected Like I love trailer I know but together like it's be one thing

It's like there was like, like, that's where like the green rooms are fun. The green rooms are the best. You're together and you're, you're connected and you're on that. You're in this, like, collective experience instead of people like going to their weird, you know, little areas. Well, what are you the most excited about moving forward from this? Like Ella, I mean, KP, we haven't seen you. yet. We've just started the process. Are you going to come out and are you coming to the premiere? I will be in Europe. You're on tour. It's so sad. I'm on tour. I'm on tour. So unfortunately, no,

but I did get to do some really fun press stuff for this movie in New York before I left. I miss you guys. And it's definitely unfortunate. But I mean, I saw the movie and I thought it was amazing. Like, I, me, and my girlfriend were crying. I was like, this is a beautiful film. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, before we get out of here, that's what I just wanted to say, too. I mean, I saw it at the L.A. premiere. And you haven't seen a movie made like this in a long time.

It's a throwback. The movies used to be like this. And I think you guys and Craig walk this really amazing line of being upbeat, even through tragedy. He didn't harp on it so much. It was still uplifting and it felt good, you know. Yeah. He did such a great job of making something that feels and is, like, incredibly tragic, inspiring. Mm-hmm.

You leave there going, like, yeah, life is hard. Yeah, it was the last time you saw, like, a true old-school feel-good movie. I mean, that's what this was to me. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, thanks, Holly. Rock, rock, like a rock and roll movie, too, you know what I mean? that musical movies can i feel like can lean really trauma porny or like really corny vibes

right in the middle to me where it's just perfect like if you get the sadness but you get yeah i love a good emo the sadness and darkness and music is just the best that's where it's like yeah like needle in the hay like elliot smith like it's just all yeah that's what i've been giving on stage just sad just pure sadness sad magic Sad magic. No, but KP can't take that because that's Ellis, that's Alice. I don't want it. I won't think it's for everyone.

Whoever it applies to, I'll give you the rights. I'm going to say this to all of our listeners. You have to check out KP's music. You have to see her on the Roche's an absolute dream. I love her. And we want you to see our movie because we all love it so much. much and we're really proud of it and um and hopefully you guys will all check it out and these amazing young actors in it all right love you guys love you guys thank you cool so great and um

yeah they're so great and they were so great in the movie and i know really really really really great and i love getting to know them and ella is just fantastic and k p like she said like we met i didn't realize she just got getting started she's incredible ella blew me the fuck away. I thought she was amazing. And, you know, standing up against you and Hugh who are just amazing and professional and doing it for so long,

she was almost, she was such a necessary, integral part of the movie because she is the reflection, you know, I mean, you have to have that character to see who these people are actually affecting. Yeah.

It's like this voice of reason, essentially. And she was just, phenomenal she's amazing she's amazing i hope she uh i like every time i'm talking to journalists and people like she really is

it's just like one of those young talents where you're like whoa where did this come from she is exciting it forever like do yourself a favor google henry danger she's like a baby and it just goes to show that like talent finds its way

wherever it's supposed to go and however you know as as actors you can only do as much as you're given and the opportunities that come to you but like never underestimate no matter what anybody's done if they have talent it can it will show itself you know and at some yeah and this really like it's exciting for her like I it's like as her as her movie mommy I'm like yeah really excited and um yeah and KP like she said like we just became she's cool yeah like we go out

like I was like oh so you're my new best friend and we're gonna hang out all the time we've had some great nights where we've just like gone out and like eating amazing but we love our martinis and we're just

she's the best and she's so talented and I love you Oliver I love you I'm leaving you okay okay bye

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